competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

The unappealing part to me is that the opponent might not always let the meteor beam hit the thing your tryna hit and that’s not even speaking on the miss factor

Its good if you do hit and kill something but afterwards you may be stuck with one move easy to be walled out

I know it’s useful overall this is more my preference

Tho I can see the view where it’s like

On a pokemon like Lunala there arnt a ton of other moves you’d rather run

[chrome knot]

what

[real prairie]

@solid frigate you joined the fanfinity discord for Bham?

[solid frigate]

no why

[trim hound]

Which Urshifu?

Rapid?

[torn parrot]

The move doesn’t appeal to me personally but I get the usefulness on a pokemon like lunala esp when it’s mostly used for its utility

Easy set up and attack button

[bold geode]

Rapid

[trim hound]

So:
Ray
Wolfe's Favorite Mon to Hate
Kung Pao Cat
3 mons to silver bullet problems?

[twin kindle]

I remember when I believed in meteor beam terapagos

Fighting types:

[real prairie]

683 registered players for Bham, expected more

[real prairie]

Just useful for information

Got my welcome email earlier and got a link to the discord in it

[next stump]

that might have been the cap

[real prairie]

It's still open for registration

[next stump]

RIP

very excited to watch the tournament

I hope a variation of CIR is successful

[trim hound]

CIR will likely top

[solid frigate]

i'm gonna just put Calcs on my notebook

[real prairie]

Probably a good idea, but I'm going raw 🤣

I overthink I'll stress myself out

I'll bring a notebook though for surprises

Like if someone is running an unusual bulk or speed tier on a Mon

[solid frigate]

i am doing that lmao

[trim hound]

Just remember you can't have that when you play

[real prairie]

Because I know something will happen game 1 and I'll forget about it by game 3 if I don't write it down 🤣

[real prairie]

Thought note pads were allowed?

[trim hound]

Blank ones for every match

[real prairie]

Jeez

[trim hound]

You can't come in with all of your calcs pre-written

Or even a type chart

[real prairie]

You can't bring a type chart?? Wth then why give them out 🤣

[trim hound]

They aren't supposed to

[real prairie]

My screen cleaner / type chart from London lol

[trim hound]

Yeah that's illegal to have on the floor

[solid frigate]

i mean i haven't put anything on the notepad

[real prairie]

Strange

Not like calcs or type charts make a difference as the mons real stats are hidden

[trim hound]

You could have all of the common calcs down on a sheet and then just flowchart from there

[chrome knot]

meteor bream lunala

[bold geode]

That one's ok
I was talking about the Meteor Beam Rayquaza

[next stump]

notebook + headphones is OP combo

regionals can get loud as fuck and it’s hard to concentrate with all the extra noise

[solid frigate]

me who loves headphones

[bold geode]

Me blaring phonk in my earbuds during my win and in

[real prairie]

i know they have to be wired headphones

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282427253-oeo3gv2xodrdmk7m5m11sl4dchv7pe9pw

sometimes I jus be letting the opponent click meteor beam into my cir

[next stump]

yes everything has to be wired that you use

are you getting there tomorrow to check in?

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282435730-ywu0fez3khleiov62v45tlh6xndb0bkpw

i love this team 😭

[solid frigate]

i'm probably gonna be in Birmingham at Night tmr

[chrome knot]

GL DAT

whats ur name youll be in my favourites tab for top cut explorer

[solid frigate]

If you see the name Morris then its me

or Morris Ma for better notice

if you mean the name for the name in RK9labs

[real prairie]

i wont get there til Saturday morning

[next stump]

awesome 🙂

make sure you give yourself an hour or so to check in

[real prairie]

yeah getting there mad early lol

if you see Jack W, thats me

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot repository just got updated

we got the gold medal

[shadow wind]

Dang at least include me in there 😭

[atomic portal]

there

[shadow wind]

😔

[real prairie]

i really worried im going to come up against nothing but Water Ogre and Zama's on saturday 🤣

i hoping for lots of the horses

[torn parrot]

Finalllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[mint void]

praying for u to get on stream(or not if u dont want to be)

[real prairie]

me too?

[mint void]

obvi

[real prairie]

❤️

[mint void]

the repository keeps getting me man

[torn parrot]

What u mean?

[mint void]

your names being flipped

[torn parrot]

Oh yeah lol

[solid frigate]

i'm fine with it but still

[polar canyon]

Don't y'all love being punished for making correct guesses

Man pokemon is fun

I still clutched in the end

[molten oasis]

Real

[chrome knot]

big fuckin rock!!

[polar canyon]

Lunala?

[chrome knot]

ye

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-guardians-of-the-galaxy-oops-gif-14122182

POV weezing

[left bobcat]

Yes king

[foggy lodge]

"give me my ability back"

[left bobcat]

Lion pizza chicken

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/JortChamp/status/1879938421252321438

Brian (@JortChamp) on X

Got rank 1 on ladder with Chandelure & Gastrodon! DM’s are open if you’re interested in the team

X · Jan 16, 2025, 5:07 PM

Cool team, the Caly Ice Gastro seems like a good pair

[left bobcat]

Yesssss

King

[polar canyon]

Still a weezing gamer

I love exhaling fumes

And not the boring regigigas or slaking kind

[torn parrot]

Wow this is really cool

[foggy lodge]

Anyone available to play a bo3 on cart?

[atomic mural]

im down

[foggy lodge]

Cool cool

OTS btw https://pokepast.es/22985589a39481db

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/3640daf8cf1f9b0e

[foggy lodge]

Code is 011

[atomic mural]

searching

[torn parrot]

Have fun

[atomic mural]

which of the rules one do i pick

[vernal shadow]

What sorta ev spread is good in the current rule set on indeedee F

[trim hound]

Check on munchstats

[vernal shadow]

I have a full special Def and hp one on showdown on my team rn but wasn't sure

[next stump]

yeah that’s usually what people do

and then psychic seed to boost your spdef

[foggy lodge]

I like the psychic seed baton pass tech

With CSR

[vernal shadow]

So max Def and hp ? Mine is max spDef ATM but I haven't touched my in game on yet

[vernal shadow]

Doesn't seem to show EVs there ?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 876: Indeedee-F

Types

Psychic/Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Synchronize, Psychic Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/55/65/95/105/85

Total

475

Base Species

Indeedee

Sableye version 4.28.1

[next stump]

munchstats has EV spreads

[foggy lodge]

Yeah defense seems to be better

[trim hound]

It's there

[foggy lodge]

It's her weak side

[vernal shadow]

Further down. Got it ty

[gentle crag]

seamagician703 has given 1 Gen Rep to thebestest1

[foggy lodge]

And psychic seed should give you enough bulk on the special side

[shadow wind]

I usually just run 252 Def and 252 HP with psychic seed

Makes it defensively sound

[vernal shadow]

Fairs. I'll sort it tomorrow and continue hunting a decent mark gardevoir. How long does a reg stay in for ? Got some important stuff I gotta get in by the 31st. Need to catch zamazenta too

[next stump]

this regulation is around until april 31st I believe

[vernal shadow]

Perfect

Loads of time. Just gotta sort my uni application. Everyone I know has finished but I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. I've finally picked. I hope I get it

[chrome knot]

won my uspl match w/ lunala

vs screens/wo chien kyogre lolz

[balmy glen]

i lost my npa match

[molten oasis]

womp womp

[solid frigate]

F

[bold geode]

Pmow Pmow
Reverses your womp womp

[molten oasis]

???

[strange fjord]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282538565-w1cchbuurh0e4ptelzxn01jna04cnn9pw
man i hate these poison gas weezing, dozo teams buh

[left bobcat]

Well that was interesting

[torn parrot]

this team comp does not put a smile on my face

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-lonely-unhappy-emotional-frown-gif-17924813

[dense latch]

o shit i got cooked by you not too long ago lmao

i totally forgot about zoroark

[strange fjord]

lol i remember. i thought that username was familiar

[shadow wind]

CSR Weezing Dozo is just like

Just admit you don't wanna think

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-brain-dead-drool-bored-gif-7233020

POV CSR Dozo players

[shadow wind]

Yeah literally

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[molten oasis]

didnt miss and got the double crit

[shadow wind]

I mean it's kind of fine

I brought Bronzong which means I can't lose

[molten oasis]

real

[shadow wind]

Statistics

[molten oasis]

did that statistic stay accurate?

[shadow wind]

For a little bit

[torn parrot]

I never showed this

uWU

[spiral ridge]

Pain

[left bobcat]

Damn

[charred saddle]

wow

thats. wow

hits, crit, para

[polar canyon]

Someone sent in ditto into neutralizing gas and clicked forfeit immediately

[torn parrot]

Lugia sucks

Okay but for real

In a format without the horses it could be pretty rad

But

If we didn’t have tera

Just throw it in the trash tbh

[spiral ridge]

Comfey lugia was cool while it lasted

[polar canyon]

A short story

[dense latch]

Calyrex watching a massive hammer appear out of thin air and slowly getting closer

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[torn parrot]

Yayyyy

I got the masterball run out of the way

That’s a load off my mind

[torn parrot]

I showed them tho

Cus I won 🙌

[charred saddle]

[torn parrot]

🐇

[polar canyon]

Tera ghost ditto is such a funny play against zamazenta

[strange fjord]

oh good, scammer gone

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[real prairie]

When your fave Mon gets KO'd

[vernal shadow]

I've decided I love encour so much. Used it on a cylarex that was trying to set trick room so it undid it and had to swap out. Brilliant. It's the simple things

[solid frigate]

until you become a victim to that move

[vernal shadow]

I'd rather be locked into tail wind than trick room

[real prairie]

Tera Dark 🙂

[solid frigate]

me with Tera Dark Whimsy

[left bobcat]

FORTNITE 😱

[bold geode]

Hello, I want to talk to your about your extended warranty

[real prairie]

Say what now?

[left bobcat]

FORTNITE

[real prairie]

No

[bold geode]

That is not Fortnite

Is that Barack Obama from Fortnite 😱

[left bobcat]

Yes

[real prairie]

One piece

[left bobcat]

Ew

[torn parrot]

Whose ready for a newwwwwwwww one piece chapter

[vernal shadow]

This team works decently well but I almost never use the trick room segment. I'll keep tr incase I desperately need to get rid of it but honestly it's not useful. I need 2 Pokémon that will work well with the team that would be a good option to bring and make me want to run them. What should I replace ursaluna and amoogus with ? I think my toughest match up rn is actually terapagos followed by miraidon, altho I can play around miraidon a bit easier, it's still a pain. Any suggestions?

Zenta is really really good. Gardevoir can pull it's own weight as an end game cleaner. Indeedee and Whimsicott doing most of the heavy lifting for the team to function

[real prairie]

if you are scarf id go with tera Steller or Psychic to be ultra offensive

[charred saddle]

for miraidon, you can try position indeedee better to gain control of the terrain.
also, psyshock indeedee is kinda off putting for me

also since ur not using cloak, i think you can use covert cloak whim and go a bulkier build

that way you can leverage on whim gard and just ignore FO

usually with sash, you also kinda want ghost tera for a similar result

max max hp def bm ursaluna is something i didnt expect tho

[charred saddle]

btw why -atk on zama??
heavy slam still takes atk as a damage calc, its not like bp

[tiny karma]

Move: Heavy Slam

The power of this move depends on (user's weight / target's weight), rounded down. Power is equal to 120 if the result is 5 or more, 100 if 4, 80 if 3, 60 if 2, and 40 if 1 or less. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

yeah heavy slam weight only calcs for BP

doesnt mean that it doesnt care atk stat

[real prairie]

damage doubles on minimize? LOL

[patent marsh]

I think it's a mistake

Cause why wouldn't you reduce spAtk

Nobody is going to foulplay zamazenta either

Besides a last ditch effort at chip damage

[tiny karma]

Move: Behemoth Bash

No additional effect.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

ye im just letting them know whats wrong in what i see

also any reason why max hp def on bm?

since i think it still kinda want spA

[patent marsh]

Man if only it used def rather than a renamed behemoth blade

[vernal shadow]

I haven't messed with the EVs or nature on it yet if I'm honest. Just grabbed a preset

Simular with ursaluna. Man I need to check stuff. It didn't save changes I made the other day either. I quite like Whimsicott as is since it ohko a urshifu earlier altho that could've been a fluke ? Lemme try some of the changes. Pretty sure I had max spA on ursaluna. I think max hp and spattack.

[craggy dagger]

wah-?

[vernal shadow]

Hang on.

[torn parrot]

Hilo

[craggy dagger]

henlo

-# i hate how i made cosmoem actually work

[vernal shadow]

Why covert cloak on Whimsicott? That for fake out and things ? @charred saddle

[craggy dagger]

yup-
bulky whimsicott runs cloak so that they won’t be flinched on fake out

[vernal shadow]

Makes sense. Tbf that's been an issue but most fake out zamazenta which I usually predict and protect

I guess it'd still be fast under tailwind so if I did max spAt and hp ?

[craggy dagger]

you want max speed

prankster has its own speed tiers so if you’re faster, then prankster will go off almost always before any other prankster users

[vernal shadow]

What's the minimum investment I need for its energy ball to continue one hitting urshifu ?

That was something I didn't think it could do but it happened earlier and that's really helpful since it's a huge issue for paper gardevoir

[craggy dagger]

uhhhhh
i wouldn’t be concerned with one shot urshifu because these days most are focus sash’d anyways

[vernal shadow]

True

[craggy dagger]

uhhh
i need a reminder on what the team looks like lol

[trim hound]

Mine isn't

[craggy dagger]

it was this right

https://pokepast.es/ebee1fb96090f162

[vernal shadow]

Lemme get a new screenshot with the stupid stuff changed

[craggy dagger]

oh ok

[craggy dagger]

raging bolt is eating good tonight lol

[trim hound]

Raging Bolt eats Urshifu regardless

[vernal shadow]

Think I removed the stupid things

[craggy dagger]

that’s what focus sash is for but yeah that’s true

[trim hound]

Raging Bolt crawls up Urshifu-Rapid's ass and puppets it, that shit is such a bad MU

[vernal shadow]

I'm wondering if I could drop the speed investment off zenta for attack due to it almost always having tail wind anyways

[craggy dagger]

i meannn
zama wants a 5EV Spread more often than max max spreads

[vernal shadow]

Sure. Recommend stuff please. First time using it since I haven't finished shield yet.

I had sword originally

[trim hound]

Go look at Munchstats spreads

[craggy dagger]

i do need someone to correct me but i think this was a spread?
i might have messed it up a little bit
Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 116 HP / 4 Atk / 244 Def / 52 SpD / 92 Spe
Impish Nature

• Body Press
• Wide Guard
• Heavy Slam
• Protect

@bold geode help me with an example zama spread

but you generally wanna have more defense investment because body press scales off your defense

[bold geode]

What you want crackhead?

Oh I see

[vernal shadow]

Wide guard would help a lot against the turtle tbf

[craggy dagger]

i don’t know my zama spreads
the one thing i don’t know how to EV

[vernal shadow]

Don't think I really use heavy slam much. Doesn't do much on most that it's super effective on since they also weigh a tonne

[craggy dagger]

wide guard is usually the standard set but iron press shouldn’t be too bad

[craggy dagger]

does enough to chip fairy miraidon to half if not more

[bold geode]

Heavy Slam is required

[vernal shadow]

Nah. Wide guard would be Hella helpful with terapagos

[trim hound]

It's typically BP, Heavy Slam, Protect, Wide Guard

[bold geode]

BP/Heavy Slam/Wide Guard/Protect is the best moveset

[craggy dagger]

you have body press soooo
i’m not sure how you’re having trouble with the turtle

[dense latch]

you need heavy slam and body press on zama those are locks

[vernal shadow]

No need for iron defence to buff body press

[bold geode]

Zamazenta does fuckton damage to Pagos

Pagos is something you should be winning against at least 75% of the time

[trim hound]

Yeah the Turtle fears the Shield Doggo

[vernal shadow]

It gets covered and chips it down.

I'm personally scared of terapagos

[bold geode]

Well don't be LMAO

[vernal shadow]

I weirdly have had less issue with miraidon 😅

[bold geode]

Wtf is your team

[vernal shadow]

I think I'm scared of the tera shift gimmick. I don't trust the process if just smacking through it and I'll be fine

I'll swap iron defence for wide guard and mess with some EV spreads

Iron defence has given it some stupid staying power but then it's left alone. Wide guard could keep it's friends around longer so it has help finishing up

[craggy dagger]

garde zama

[craggy dagger]

here ^^

[vernal shadow]

I love zamazenta so much. It's just a massive wall that stands there after everything else has killed eachother and finishes up 😂.

The last 2 gens of stuff is very very very new too me. Don't judge my inability

[bold geode]

My brother that is the process

[torn parrot]

Okay I hate shanks

[bold geode]

No spoilers

[torn parrot]

Yes sir

[bold geode]

What is the team

[vernal shadow]

Yup it sounds scarier than it actually is tbh

[craggy dagger]

@bold geode here you stimky dumdum

[bold geode]

What am I looking at

[stray girder]

is there anything like armor tail but for moves that switch out the mon?

[bold geode]

No

[craggy dagger]

magic bounce a parting shot

[bold geode]

Me taking a shit

[solid frigate]

how did you lose AGAINST TERAPAGOS-

this kinda enraged me so badly that i typed Pagos’s full Name with Full Caps

[craggy dagger]

even with tera shell you still do a lot

[trim hound]

Or if Zam is slower than your partner you pop the shell first then Zam cleans up

Pagos is free to Zam

[real prairie]

i just use Fake tears, doesn't matter if it resists if it has no defences 🤣

[bold geode]

That or if there was a Fake Out Mon here then Fake Out Body Press works bringing mindgames

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger

[real prairie]

fake out can be less successful if you can't get the double in on the same turn as loads use leftovers + grassy terrain

[charred saddle]

so usually theres like 3 main ways to play around FO with whim

ghost tera sash --> ensures you can take 1 hit and no FO. since FO + something will def kill since whim is very squishy but theres a lot of advantages too

cloak bulky whim --> doesnt use tera, but serves quite similar purposes. downside is that some mon would also prefer using cloak. and also bulky whim is just isnt bulky enough to some scenario where ie. SE moves, so sash do have an advantage on that

lastly is just protect, but then sometimes u will lose like a turn, and if they do predict ur gonna protect and do something else its just basically kinda bad

but with protect u basically lose nothing

[real prairie]

Urshifu disagrees

[charred saddle]

btw also, i think with ur team ur gonna have a hard time against certain MU like amoonguss too

[real prairie]

Also against Fakeout + other TW setter you lose the speed tier the next turn and can be taunted/encored

[charred saddle]

oh btw ye i think i saw the EVs wrong haha i thought i saw max hp def bm mb

[plain niche]

Hi everyone

[real prairie]

hi and welcome

[charred saddle]

well ofc this is also a thing to consider, but i was saying in the case where you want to put pressure/play around FO

[real prairie]

i hope i don't have to tag you in anything ever as i have no idea how to type that name 🤣

[plain niche]

No problem 😂, I need someone to help me

[charred saddle]

btw think its also better to put teams in pokepaste

kinda hard to see screenshots

me eyes dumdum shit yk, cant see straight sometimes

[craggy dagger]

hi

what’s up?

[chrome knot]

novaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2282476546-sebxn10uqht35pxrmvl5olf4mk9yu9epw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2282480409-sdaui6hjannnq40ls30e30zh07sxzg3pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2282483932-9c8x4yioifi6ol7rlr0f6x125gulrqspw

[plain niche]

Should I run swords dance on my kingambit with max atk and spe evs or run assault vest with max hp and atk?

[charred saddle]

max speed in gambit is kinda weird unless ur playing turbogambit

[real prairie]

singles or doubles?

[charred saddle]

also that ye

[real prairie]

if its reg G, Gambit is a bit power crept

[charred saddle]

also true

does have some niche like against csr but then ehhhh

[plain niche]

Singles always last pkmn to be deployed because of its ability I want ta run assault vest with tera flying

[real prairie]

too many strong fighting types in the format

[charred saddle]

most csr run some sort of redirection so sucker isnt gonna help

if its single i cant help

[real prairie]

singles sword dance is fine

you can play around them needing to pivot out of bad match ups as an opportunity to set up

[plain niche]

I see...

Now where do I find someone to participate in union circle with me so I can evolve one pkmn?

[plain drum]

#1040555642668199936

[charred saddle]

hi nerd

[plain niche]

Its dead

[plain drum]

That’s all we can direct you to

[charred saddle]

eni its time for you to play VGC ill help you along the way

[real prairie]

try #sv_discussion too

they will probably point you back to #1040555642668199936 but worth a shot

[plain drum]

The last post in there with any amount of traction was only about an hour ago

It’s worth a shot making a thread of your own and being patient

[plain drum]

Maybe one day

[charred saddle]

and that day starts today

[plain drum]

Nah, don’t have the capacity right now

[charred saddle]

damn

[plain drum]

When I’ve got less on my plate though, maybe I’ll call because it’s something I do want to try

[craggy dagger]

Leo-
why are you a style sheet

[vernal shadow]

MU?

[solid frigate]

wut

[solid frigate]

matchup

[torn parrot]

No you didn’t

[craggy dagger]

i did

[vernal shadow]

Ah ty.

[gentle crag]

seamagician703 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[craggy dagger]

well
theoretically
i need to put it under more tests but

[torn parrot]

You made him a meat shield

[tiny karma]

Move: Psych Up

The user copies all of the target's current stat stage changes.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

That’s all he can be

[tiny karma]

Move: Stored Power

Power is equal to 20+(X*20), where X is the user's total stat stage changes that are greater than 0.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

20

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Cosmic Power

Raises the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

yeahhhhhh………………

psych up the +6 def and spdef

and stored power all enemies

[torn parrot]

He doesn’t even get that tho

He gets

[solid frigate]

I mean does it only become 120 BP

[torn parrot]

Splash

[solid frigate]

but even then the SpA is not worth it

[craggy dagger]

ik
i can psych up off of cosmoem all the time though

[torn parrot]

Ohh

Okay that’s something at least

[craggy dagger]

cuz cosmoem doesn’t ever die

eviolite + +6

[torn parrot]

oh…

Your right he doesn’t die…

[torn parrot]

He’s an infinite meat shield for all eternity

[craggy dagger]

basically yeah

[solid frigate]

thats like Bastiodon’s Level of Bullshit

[torn parrot]

Yeah this an unkillable bastard

I mean he doesn’t do anything but he sure does float there

Menacingly

[craggy dagger]

basically
cosmoem is there to be pretty

like a jewel on a sword hilt.
it serves no purpose asides from looking pretty

[torn parrot]

It looks pretty nice

Lunala looks prettier tho

Looks like a pizza

[craggy dagger]

i was tempted to use cosmog

but cosmog is unusable

[charred saddle]

mickey made me into a spreadsheet

[real prairie]

Suddenly Urshifu doesn't seem like such a terrible mon

[torn parrot]

Cosmog is less than a pokemon

[charred saddle]

#general_chat message

@craggy dagger

this

[gentle crag]

abused1 (ID 1060975738678947880)

[Message](#general_chat message) in #general_chat
can you turn me into a spreadsheet?

Command triggered by abused1. Message from · Jan 17, 2025, 4:48 PM

[torn parrot]

If I had to choose between cosmog and magikarp

I woudl choose magikarp

[charred saddle]

lies

the only edge a magikarpp has is tackle

[torn parrot]

At least magikarp can focus sash flail

[charred saddle]

oh it got flail?

[torn parrot]

Tera normal focus sash flail

[charred saddle]

goddamn

[torn parrot]

Ye lol

[solid frigate]

Lunala Pizza i need to see that in Pokemon restaurant

[real prairie]

Shiny Lunala only helps cement the Pizza allegations

[torn parrot]

Now we’re doing damage

252+ Atk Tera Normal Magikarp Flail (200 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Koraidon: 58-69 (33.1 - 39.4%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO

Look that

[craggy dagger]

nooooo

[torn parrot]

Nuke karp

[tiny karma]

Magikarp's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bounce, Flail, Tackle

Special Moves

Hydro Pump

Status Moves

Celebrate, Happy Hour, Splash

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Magikarp.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

LMAO

[vernal shadow]

I managed to beat tw. Think I did ok
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282951609

[charred saddle]

come be a spreadsheet together with me

[trim hound]

No, we playing stall now

[real prairie]

cosmeon set up + psych up

[trim hound]

What learns Psych Up and Body Press?

[vernal shadow]

Mew probably 😅

[trim hound]

I know Smeargle does

But I want a real mon

[vernal shadow]

It can't have roost now which I'm upset about

[real prairie]

you wont believe me 🤣

[plain drum]

Caly-I does

[real prairie]

Caly Shadow lool

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282958290-uvkw6orv0fhsom0js6gsdcrvffc6nw5pw

[trim hound]

Calyrex is like fucking Sam Hyde at this point

[craggy dagger]

[vernal shadow]

Try this I found
https://pokemondb.net/tools/moveset-search

[craggy dagger]

god there’s so much wrong with that team

[real prairie]

Alternatively lol

prankster psych up to make sure nothing stopping you

[craggy dagger]

skill swap though

coballion gets psych up and body press-

[vernal shadow]

Like no guard sheer cold. That one's hilarious

[real prairie]

could also use Co-star

[vernal shadow]

Do one hit moves work through substitute ?

[tiny karma]

Move: Sheer Cold

Deals damage to the target equal to the target's maximum HP. Ignores accuracy and evasiveness modifiers. This attack's accuracy is equal to (user's level - target's level + X)%, where X is 30 if the user is an Ice type and 20 otherwise, and fails if the target is at a higher level. Ice-type Pokemon and Pokemon with the Sturdy Ability are immune.

Type

Ice

Category

Special

Power

0

Accuracy

30

PP (max)

5 (8)

Targets

Any adjacent Pokémon

Introduced

Generation 3

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[vernal shadow]

Does sub count as evasive modifier ?

[real prairie]

kyogre sheer cold is 20% accuracy?

[vernal shadow]

Just put no guard on it I guess lol or some snow

[solid frigate]

yeah not an Ice Type

[vernal shadow]

Or tera ice

[solid frigate]

Even then thats 30%

[real prairie]

news to me lol thought it was just a flat 30

[torn parrot]

after my break its ho-oh time

[vernal shadow]

50 in snow no ?

[solid frigate]

gl

[real prairie]

nooooo

its always max 30 haha

[solid frigate]

why would you boost an OHKO Move’s Accuracy

[real prairie]

if sheer cold hit half the time in snow it would be used way more

just pick a bulky ice mon in snow and click buttons

[vernal shadow]

I thought it would idk why.

I'm wanting to try articuno and galar vulpix. Looks like fun

Snow just boosts Def

So idk why I put that together

[craggy dagger]

oo good luck

[tiny karma]

Move: Snowscape

For 5 turns, the weather becomes Snow. During the effect, the Defense of Ice-type Pokemon is multiplied by 1.5 when taking damage from a physical attack. Lasts for 8 turns if the user is holding Icy Rock. Fails if the current weather is Snow.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

sometimes i think about a world without power creep

[solid frigate]

Didn’t Articuno won a Regional with Alolan Ninetales

[real prairie]

1 day, i want to see a reg where it converts all mons stats to 500

like it makes all mons lv 50 atm

[solid frigate]

Powercreep is a Natural Process so yeah not gonna happen

[spiral ridge]

Shuckle fucking jealous rn

[vernal shadow]

BC ninetales has snow warning and articuno is a tank so with snow now, ice typing isn't as bad for it I think. That's what I've gathered. No clue if it win anything thi

[spiral ridge]

Imagine that with the defense attack swap move

[torn parrot]

we shoudl go back

[spiral ridge]

1200 attack :)

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/hyper-x-keyboard-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743646

[solid frigate]

Articuno just literally Spam Blizzard there

[solid frigate]

I still stand by Reg H is Mid

Reg F is Peak Meta Imo

Peak Meta for SV at least

[vernal shadow]

What's banned in f ?

[plain drum]

I’m actually very confused by this, unless this is just another Smogon quirk why does Showdown say that Caly-S learns Body Press but I doesn’t when afaik it’s the other way around

[solid frigate]

restricted Legendaries

[torn parrot]

reg F wasnt the worst

[solid frigate]

but anything else is still legal

[vernal shadow]

Sounds like you can actually have fun and mess with team comp a lot more there

[torn parrot]

reg H was peak in my opinion

reg A was also really fun cus everything was incredibly inneficient
you could just run some bullshit

[solid frigate]

ehhhh i seen people with Mixed Ideas about Reg H so not really

Reg F as well but at least Peli Archa is not as annoying in there and Not discovered Sneasler Bullshit yet

and dont say anything about Tornshifu we have Raging Bolt

[tiny karma]

Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[vernal shadow]

Can I use the cherish ball championship Pokémon in tournaments ?

[torn parrot]

when its incredibly difficult to optimize a meta cus everything is shit thats when its fun

[plain drum]

Yeah but where is Sableye pulling from? You can check Bulba, Serebii, etc. so unless it has been tested on cart I don’t believe it for a minute

[solid frigate]

Cherish Ball is fine to use

[vernal shadow]

So u could rock up to a tourney with a team of gifted Pokémon from previous winners ? That's hilarious

[trim hound]

That's literally what those mons are designed for

[solid frigate]

and Reg F technically has that Balance here

With Articuno as Example and Someone literally bring all 3 Genies somehow lmao

But then again you hate Legendaries so yeah

[torn parrot]

i dont hate legendaries

i hate poor balancing

[trim hound]

Little bro doesn't know Sturgeon's Law

[torn parrot]

its easy to chalk sometone up as hating legendaries

[charred saddle]

COOK THE CHIKEN

also share me the recipe
actually quite interested in hooh regenerator sacred fire

[torn parrot]

i like when i can do whatever i want, i play pokemon for the freedom

[solid frigate]

didn’t Terapagos,Zamazenta and Calyrex Shadow kinda Formed a Matchup Triangle?

but then again CSR Players adapted towards it

[trim hound]

You have the freedom to fail

[vernal shadow]

I thought they were for people to test teams before going out to grab stuff themselves tbh.

I don't like how restricted legendaries force team building to largely center around them due to the power difference. With that, the fact that older ones are so powerful crept, they shouldn't be classified the same. Lugia ain't got nothing on some of the more loved ones

But not aiming to make the best team helps with that

[torn parrot]

something i realized about is it actually has a ton of good matchups but
its main flaw, the thing makes it so nobody ever wants to use it is because it gets pinned by the two hardest hititng things to ever exist

kyogre and miraidon
so if you cann build a team around not being pinned by those two i think he can pop off

[vernal shadow]

Free to fail as u say

[real prairie]

I think if we have a reg with flat stat bases it could be a lot of fun messing around with different abilities, moves, items etc

[charred saddle]

hmm, idk against CSR and CIR its kinda in a weird spot

[vernal shadow]

Like just base stats u mean ?

[solid frigate]

thats how impactful Restricted legendaries are

They are the powerhouse and you build around them

Thats why you dont see Miraidon Pair with Rillaboom(unless your Name is WoodTofu)

[trim hound]

Lugia caught nerfs

[charred saddle]

also regenerator ability is okay, just that it doesnt put pressure like other meta like Eterrain mirai, or CSR CIR quick damage

[vernal shadow]

That's just...why? Why would someone do that ?

[solid frigate]

Im gonna be fucked fighting that tmr lmao(Regional)

[real prairie]

Yeah, for 1 reg, every Mon is 500 BST

[charred saddle]

hooh just feels like entei, with better typing ig

oh no inner focus too

[torn parrot]

it threatens a burn and superffective into calyurex icee rider which is really cool and it has high special defense against shadow rider

[charred saddle]

yeah but also CIR will have some sort of stuff for that

[real prairie]

How you use them is just entirely based on what you choose to invest in EV wise and what the mons unique features are

[solid frigate]

He’s cooking lmao (Tofu is our Comp Helper here and he is way better on the cooking)

[vernal shadow]

Does sound fun

[charred saddle]

redirections, or even watershifu

[torn parrot]

for sure thats why you build a team around not getting pinned by its counters

[vernal shadow]

Keeping grass terrain ability?

[solid frigate]

you try to Figure it out

[torn parrot]

and im not syaing ho-oh is like insane but i thing he can be pretty cool

[trim hound]

It can't even abuse Regenerator

[vernal shadow]

I'd have assumed no but then grassy glide with grass terrain. Idk

[solid frigate]

i tried Ho-Oh Before and thanks i sorta Love/Hate jt

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[torn parrot]

i beleive in it

for me its just a question of its fun or extremely boring

[trim hound]

I don't, it doesn't have the tools to do what it wants to do

[vernal shadow]

I've seen Lugia do ok. Also what nerds did Lugia get ?

[solid frigate]

it has Good Bulk but can’t do damage

[trim hound]

Lost it's prf move iirc

[solid frigate]

Psycho Boost?

(idk why it learn that)

[vernal shadow]

Didn't get a buff due to terra swapping it's typing ? That's what I had gathered about it.

[trim hound]

Yeah that

[solid frigate]

ehhh not really

[trim hound]

No, because it's still a fat piece of shit that does no damage

[solid frigate]

the Problem Lugia has is just It needs like 3-4 Calm Minds to be able to do damage

Typing also did not help

[vernal shadow]

Also why is it not a water type ?

[solid frigate]

also if Lunala +1 can Nuke Lugia iirc

[solid frigate]

honestly idk ask Gen 2 Developers

even then i think Water Flying is still alright

Just Miraidon Food

[vernal shadow]

Smogon place it in Ubers. Can't it stop all setup by being a tank and having whirlwind. It also has recover

I think it's workable

Altho I'm not experienced at all. I feel Lugia has tools that can be used

[solid frigate]

yea but you have To Remember this is Doubles-

[vernal shadow]

Ah true.

[solid frigate]

and Lugia kinda fucked up by CSR,CIR and Miraidon

Terapagos Outdamages Lugia in Most Occasions

Kyogre can just fucking Nuke Lugia

[trim hound]

Smogon is also fraudulent

[vernal shadow]

But they can't force opponents out.

Might have a niche

Well I guess they could force something out with fear

[vernal shadow]

How so ?

[trim hound]

Obsession with singles, despite it not functioning

Also some bans have been laughable at best

[solid frigate]

and they ban sleep

What are they doing-

[torn parrot]

lugia's typing is just unfortunate ):

[trim hound]

It's not the typing

It's the fact that the kit sucks

[solid frigate]

its the damage output Lugia dishes as well

[torn parrot]

wow it literally has 90 special attack

thats really bad

[trim hound]

It's Gen 8 Zam with a different typing

Aka dogshit

[vernal shadow]

Teach me numbers someone. What is considered workable for each stat generally?

[solid frigate]

Terapagos (Terastal Form)

OUTDAMAGES IT.

like come on Lugia

[trim hound]

Depends on mon/kit

Smeargle gets to be fine with no stats because it does literally anything

Lugia's would be fine if it learned Body Press

[solid frigate]

sometimes you can study what moveset and also their Stats to see what the heck do they want out of it

[trim hound]

^

A statline isn't the entire equation

[solid frigate]

like for example Ogerpon

Ogerpon can be Either a Sweeper or a Sub Sweeper Support with Follow Me

[mint void]

Making the most obvious play doesnt get me the win kinda FF
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282980957-0t908vnvun1czt9qr1oq08toezgf03ypw

[vernal shadow]

Maybe not but a general rule of thumb. Like 90 special is considered bad but 125 is good. Some stuff is a decent bit higher again.

Just a general base rule of thumb to work from

Like Ik that low defences aren't that bad if the hp is really high

[mint void]

i think he always is just played as the 2nd since he just always does both pretty well. I havent seen one not running follow me

[solid frigate]

if you look at Gen 6 VGC

100 was a Good Speed stat

in gen 9 100 is consider Awkward now

[torn parrot]

guys

[trim hound]

100 would be better in like Reg A

[torn parrot]

tera wwas cool and all but i think im about ready to hit things and then they take superffective damage

[vernal shadow]

Where does 80 sit then ? That used to be a bit awkward I think right ?

[mint void]

meh

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon is a Girl lmao

But then again Follow Me Ogerpon is still PRETTY VALUEABLE

[mint void]

well yeah she is but

my habit is refering to mons as he

WC winning team was 135, 116, 97, 110, 60, 50

u can work with 100 really well but u probably need TW or icy wind kinda speed control

[solid frigate]

80-100 are a bit Awkward but it all also depends on the Moveset,Typing and Stats

For Example,Incineroar is fine with that Speed Stat cuz its a Bulky Mf that can do Utility

Mesprit has that Speed stat is Awkward cuz it has an identity Crisis

[mint void]

^u have "slow" peeps do great. But they mostly make up for it. Id say like 90+ is decent. below is a little awkward since so much in Reg G is so damn fast or just nukes u if u cant outspeed

[solid frigate]

So basically the comclusion is

Its what the Pokémon can bring to the table

[trim hound]

Yes

[charred saddle]

oh nono, i def agree its just playing with it is harder than said meta restricted

gl on it tho

[torn parrot]

no like

your right thats why its mid

it takes more effort make work

[charred saddle]

ye

[torn parrot]

but when your bored you do it because what else is there to do

[charred saddle]

unlike csr or something something miraidon, you can have the leeway to take something unconventional haha

[torn parrot]

i played a gen 5 room tour it was really fun

it was really really really fun

pokemon should be fun

lots of cool mons too

[charred saddle]

true

in general, games should be fun

[torn parrot]

i agree

what a rad fucking linup of sample teams

[charred saddle]

thats....

something

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 510: Liepard

Type

Dark

Abilities

Limber, Unburden, Prankster (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

64/88/50/88/50/106

Total

446

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

this is what i crave

[charred saddle]

honestly from there, what intrigued me the most is the politoed kingdra team

very interesting

[torn parrot]

thas the one i used

it was so fun

i enjoyed it alot

[charred saddle]

oh

incheresting

swift swim focus energy?

no way right? haha

[torn parrot]

nah he's just a swift swim attacker

he has sub

[charred saddle]

damn disappointment

[torn parrot]

https://pokepast.es/eb2eb5cc8f0d4543

[trim hound]

Gen 5 is the opposite of fun

[charred saddle]

gems?

is that like the meta there?

[trim hound]

Shit is either weather or dragon.exe

[torn parrot]

i noticed all the hp ice

[charred saddle]

oh hidden power is allowed there?

[craggy dagger]

huh-

[charred saddle]

thats uh funny

[craggy dagger]

back then
landorus therian was everywhere

[trim hound]

Dragons be like

[craggy dagger]

and defiant tornadus was the norm

[torn parrot]

realized i like a world without tera
even tho i like a lot of the bennifits of tera

[craggy dagger]

i feel like if we went back to an old format like that, the entire meta would shift because of the knowledge that we gained through the years of vgc

[trim hound]

Fairies exist because of how fucking bad Gen 5 Dragons were

[charred saddle]

UR A SPREADSHEET TOO NOW WA

[craggy dagger]

[charred saddle]

@spiral ridge be a spreadsheet too pottyboy

[spiral ridge]

Wha

[torn parrot]

maybe maybe
things were alot different that then tho

[craggy dagger]

no im not a spreadsheet

[charred saddle]

damn

[spiral ridge]

PowerPoint

[charred saddle]

im alone now

[craggy dagger]

changed it again

[spiral ridge]

Pft

[craggy dagger]

become the office trio lol

word excel and powerpoint

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

that’s true
but i feel like the knowledge of setting up and the now properly defined playstyle would def change how we play that format

[spiral ridge]

Is this what words are I forget

[craggy dagger]

word is .doc or .docx

[spiral ridge]

😭 oops

[charred saddle]

scottywrd feels like squidward for some reason

[craggy dagger]

lmao

[spiral ridge]

OH GOD

[charred saddle]

idk why

[trim hound]

It doesn't change the fact that the tools given in Gen 5 enforce two distinct playstyles

[spiral ridge]

I don’t wanna be squidward

[charred saddle]

if ur squidward, ill be patrick

ill be more than happy to be patrick

[craggy dagger]

true
but like
prankster tornadus might be the norm instead of defiant now

thats a change that i think could happen

[spiral ridge]

Nova spongebob

[charred saddle]

[trim hound]

That's a minor change in the context of "weather war vs dragon.exe"

Fire HP Fire Jumpluff OHKO'ing Metagross nearly got me shanked at a regional

Good times

[craggy dagger]

noh

[spiral ridge]

Fair enough I don’t wanna be squidward anyway

Squidward gags are being depressed and ugly

[craggy dagger]

also the reason why the EV spreads looked whack back then was cuz of Hidden power being based off IVs-
at least that’s what i think-

[spiral ridge]

Too on the nose

[charred saddle]

wha

thats weird

[charred saddle]

ill poke ur nose

[trim hound]

Yeah, people forget IVs mattering more

Thank God that shit is gone now

[spiral ridge]

It’ll
Respond like a normal nose?

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

you would see like
244/4/0/244/4/0

[plain drum]

Hidden Power

[tiny karma]

Move: Nature Power

This move calls another move for use based on the battle terrain. Tri Attack on the regular Wi-Fi terrain, Thunderbolt during Electric Terrain, Moonblast during Misty Terrain, Energy Ball during Grassy Terrain, and Psychic during Psychic Terrain.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

bring back nature power

[charred saddle]

whats ur hidden power

[acoustic ferry]

Bdsp here - Are there trainers here who are into competitive battling? Been wanting to have good battles with players and also maybe set a tournament. DM me if yall interested or reply here

[spiral ridge]

this is a cool move

[plain drum]

We’ve got #1046572041421197352 for this sort of thing, you might have better luck there!

[spiral ridge]

what learned it?

[charred saddle]

dont think theres nature power in SV

[left bobcat]

Cool

[plain drum]

Lot of grass mons

[charred saddle]

kek

[spiral ridge]

really cool i didnt remember the move

[spiral ridge]

thats why bring back lol

[charred saddle]

actually "cant be remembered" HAHAHAH

[trim hound]

There's a lot of things I'd be happy to forget about earlier gens

[charred saddle]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[trim hound]

Like Gems

[spiral ridge]

wasnt like

flying gem acrobatics stupid or something

speak british one

[trim hound]

Flying Gem Acrobatics from Archeops

[dusty gate]

I speakth. (that is all)

[charred saddle]

wo'oh

[trim hound]

You send whatever poor bastard got hit by that straight back to God, same day shipping

[spiral ridge]

heyy :)

[plain drum]

Erm, I can

[spiral ridge]

SAT practice time with yoshi tyler the creator playing

[charred saddle]

[dusty gate]

Can't believe they turned Scotty into a document and Leo into a spreadsheet.

[spiral ridge]

i was forced too (the tiniest most non existent bit of peer pressure)

[charred saddle]

nova is also a spreadsheet

[spiral ridge]

mhm

[charred saddle]

mickey turned me into a spreadsheer

[spiral ridge]

ofc it was mickey lol

@stark kindle having fun spreading those sheets?

[dusty gate]

Can't believe they turned Scotty into a document and Leo and Nova into a spreadsheet.

[spiral ridge]

oh shit thats a cute ping

[stark kindle]

[spiral ridge]

looks like mario hitting a block lol

[spiral ridge]

damn right

[dusty gate]

Seems he really likes spreading those sheets everywhere.

[spiral ridge]

mario 64 DS yoshi chilling shall get me through SAT hell

it started autplaying and i saw yoshi just chilling i couldnt stop the video

[charred saddle]

yahooo

my name's mario, i like stepping on turtles.
i break bricks with my head. yahoo

[mint void]

On topic: The WCNo1 team is really fun ngl

[craggy dagger]

what?

oh

[charred saddle]

was replying on lacius looking at me and scotty be something heh

[dusty gate]

Nova!

[left bobcat]

Mhmmm

MHMMMMMMMMM oh ok yeah

[near crag]

Y'all think raichu has a niche in kyogre teams, instead of lando? Cuz both of them are there to check mirai and bolt, at the end of the day. Only thing is lando does a lot of damage, and raichu has better utility, with fout, nuzzle, endeavor, etc.

[left bobcat]

I know some of these words

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh- sure why not

[charred saddle]

kinda true to a certain point

but lando doesnt only check mirai, it also threatens it. and also not only miraidon

ground coverage is insanely huge, incin, zama to say

raichu filling a similar spot to lando for miraidon doesnt mean it can fulfill its role (especially if ur taking a look at a more general gameplan)

[left bobcat]

Yeah

What they said- I can’t read

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 26: Raichu

Type

Electric

Abilities

Static, Lightning Rod (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/90/55/90/80/110

Total

485

Weight (Low Kick BP)

30kg (60 BP)

Height

0.8m

Introduced

Generation 1

Other Formes

Raichu-Alola

Pre-evolution

Pikachu

Egg groups

Field, Fairy

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

Yellow

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

haiiiiiii

[charred saddle]

lmao it does get a quite funny utilities thho, Fake tears seems funny

i can see fake tears + spout getting a KO on a unsuspecting opp

also got rain dance manual

FO nuzzle protect FT/raindance seems nice i think ye

lemme know how it goes if u do try raichu

[near crag]

Sure'll do, and the team should be ready in bout 10, if you want to give it a shot too

[charred saddle]

idk if i can play tho haha, a bit drunk i think (never had myself fully drunk so idk)

[bold geode]

Alright buddy put your Styrofoam helmet back on, it's coloring time

[bold geode]

Oh I see you're in here now beautiful

[near crag]

Didn't even try to do spreads, but that's what I've gotten: https://pokepast.es/9001b5bfd11a9677

[solid frigate]

I’m in Birmingham now

[molten oasis]

Good luck you got this

[solid frigate]

Yeah im doing Final practice after dinner

[near crag]

Why mr fantastic tho

[molten oasis]

He’s fantastic

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fantastic-reed-richards-fantastic-four-marvel-marvel-rivals-gif-12425045216179934485

[plain drum]

Glhf Torrent

[solid frigate]

thanks

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to maskedravager

[near crag]

Venom's crazy rn, it just refuses to die

[plain drum]

[gentle crag]

maskedravager has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[molten oasis]

Venom’s good at stating alive that’s it

[near crag]

Plus gargantuan damage

[molten oasis]

Strange Magneto Hulk, all better tanks

[near crag]

Strange is actually stupider than incin ngl

But there is one that stands above all

The punisher

(I'm absolutely not coping bc he's my main)

[torn parrot]

okay iv made a revelation

ho-oh is boring as fuck

[bold geode]

Idk there was one Venom player I saw that was really good
Strange and Magneto definitely better but I haven't seen as many Venom at least in my experience just be nearly as aggressive

Venom actually looked good as like
Basically a Spider-Man that's fat

[molten oasis]

Dude

Just cuz 1 guy is really good at the character doesn’t change how good the character is

[bold geode]

Venom's other problem is just like
It can be mowed down so easy

Also Peni
I fucking hate Peni dude

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/riopaser/status/1880322791658131919?t=Yi1dXHPW8Ceh_GM0xnLYUA&s=19

Eric Rios (@riopaser) on X

Vuelve Pokémon, vuelve la ilusión 🥸

X · Jan 17, 2025, 6:34 PM

Damn tera stellar eric

[left bobcat]

For some reason I can’t use terapagos correct

[solid frigate]

skill issue

[trim hound]

Filtered

[twin kindle]

Terapagoat

[craggy dagger]

But-
Cosmoem-

[solid frigate]

S o t r u e

[twin kindle]

Bebe will squiessh me

[solid frigate]

also Lacey Pfp

B A S E D

[twin kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmog-pokemon-violent-impulses-pokemon-sun-and-moon-alola-gif-26273175

Sobs

[spiral ridge]

Pftt

[craggy dagger]

awwwww

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-epic-embed-fail-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-silver-the-hedgehog-gif-22528367

[spiral ridge]

Still have premier ball role lol

[twin kindle]

My cosmogs violent impulses will get worse

[plain drum]

I told her but she said she’s keeping it

[twin kindle]

IM STILL SPECILA LILE THAT

[spiral ridge]

Ic

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-hsr-honkai-star-rail-sesame-cake-goma-pai-gif-14819484025251167313

[spiral ridge]

You’re a newb

[solid frigate]

time to lock in /j

[twin kindle]

That’s just my charm teeheee

[twin kindle]

I know rightttt , the worlds perfect in pink

[craggy dagger]

thoughts

https://pokepast.es/f41c76a0d3eb4ebd

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-gif-17837608798380409583

[twin kindle]

OMG

3 moon babies 10/10

[craggy dagger]

moon good :3

[twin kindle]

Awe

[craggy dagger]

-# i need to make more teams that are cohesive like that one

[solid frigate]

i used Roaring Moon and Cress before

specifically Cress Pagos

[spiral ridge]

Since booster moon maybe acro?

[twin kindle]

Iss not Tera flyinhg

[spiral ridge]

Does that have to be Tera flying? Gotcha

[solid frigate]

Support Roaring Moon can use Other Teras

[craggy dagger]

idc im revealing this cuz i want to

https://pokepast.es/6b69677977bbbfbd

yes what you’re seeing is a choice banded adamant shifu
a choice scarfed adamant pao

[twin kindle]

COSMEON

[spiral ridge]

Pft the silly team yeah

[solid frigate]

i like Poison Tera Support Moom i like

[solid frigate]

oh shi-

[craggy dagger]

it’s such a crackhead team

[spiral ridge]

Aegis you didn’t see it already lmfao

[twin kindle]

Loving the creativity

[twin kindle]

Aeg..

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why i say oh shit-

[spiral ridge]

Ohh

[craggy dagger]

yeah i never shared it with anyone
just replays

[solid frigate]

only them say my VGC name Aegis most of them saying my name Torrent

[spiral ridge]

Yeah you did before lol
Cus I was stupid and not understanding

[spiral ridge]

I met you as aegis lol if you prefer torrent or morris I’ll say that

[solid frigate]

its ok

[bold geode]

Helloing

[solid frigate]

Ahhhh

monke

[craggy dagger]

different team but still

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2282678024

[twin kindle]

Both very cute names, you have great taste

[craggy dagger]

M-
Aegis :3

[solid frigate]

Torrent is basically just my obsession on Water Types and Water Starter Ability

Aegis is just Xenoblade 2 things

[solid frigate]

[spiral ridge]

Well done :3

[twin kindle]

Aiya, the persona truly does make the name

I think that’s very special

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/herta-the-herta-hsr-herta-star-rail-herta-star-rail-the-herta-gif-13079190323369777099

[twin kindle]

Im Lulu bevuase im a FRAUD

I saw a Luna already around here 💔

[bold geode]

Cu she's De-LuLu.....

[solid frigate]

why i have PTSD of that Lulu HSR Account

[chrome knot]

-# a stinky,,,,

[twin kindle]

Im gonna delulunge atcha

[bold geode]

Ah yes Emma
The queen of stink

[solid frigate]

Smtinky

[craggy dagger]

i regret making that team so much

[twin kindle]

FALSHE

[bold geode]

Come at thee

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-fern-beyond-journeys-end-macdonald-burgers-gif-10253262265477048425

[bold geode]

Why did my messages send like that

[craggy dagger]

lies

[spiral ridge]

Not lies

[twin kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-rascal-does-not-dream-of-bunny-girl-senpai-anime-touch-nose-poke-gif-17682170

[craggy dagger]

you’re the stimky one emma

[twin kindle]

NOOOO I FEOGORR

[spiral ridge]

So much for being special

[chrome knot]

whyre u a spreadsheet

[solid frigate]

time to go to shower and then prepare for Birmingham

[chrome knot]

and why is stella a document

[craggy dagger]

cuz a mod made me and leo a spreadsheet

[bold geode]

I got booped

[chrome knot]

oh okay

[spiral ridge]

Mine I had to do myself

[craggy dagger]

i didn’t have a choice

[spiral ridge]

Cus Mickey doesn’t love me

[craggy dagger]

@stark kindle why am i a spreadsheet again?

[twin kindle]

Lure baller , thou art

[bold geode]

@stark kindle fuck this Scotty guy amirite

[craggy dagger]

not the double mickey ping

[spiral ridge]

Mhmm

[twin kindle]

heck yeah!

[bold geode]

Lure baller is when I try to Rizz a man

[craggy dagger]

i’m going back to my goltres formula

[spiral ridge]

Ooo

[craggy dagger]

why’d that send just now-
HelP

[spiral ridge]

Pft

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[spiral ridge]

🤨

[twin kindle]

I love the complexities of my idiocy

[craggy dagger]

fine what do you want me to make stimky monke?

[spiral ridge]

Metapod

[craggy dagger]

is metapod even in this gen

[spiral ridge]

If it isn’t i miss it

[spiral ridge]

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-rdj-gif-22204608

[bold geode]

Some silly shit for sure

[craggy dagger]

that’s what makes you you

[spiral ridge]

Not even worst thing you’ve done to me

[bold geode]

Wha no

[craggy dagger]

give
me
an
idea
bish

[twin kindle]

Flutter main solo challenge

[bold geode]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
Reshiram rn

[spiral ridge]

Luna the flower gave you away even while you were just typing 😭

I saw your name typing and was like “oh that’s luna”

[craggy dagger]

i’ve already done that
give me something new

[twin kindle]

ITS MU FOOWER

I can’t give up the 💅🏻

[spiral ridge]

I know just teasing

[twin kindle]

Or the 💄

[craggy dagger]

istg if you say cosmog im gonna cry

[bold geode]

Oh no where's my flower

[twin kindle]

GASP

[spiral ridge]

You aren’t giving those up
You’re giving up 🌸

[bold geode]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
Regular Calyrex

[twin kindle]

You don’t understand Luna language es em ache

[bold geode]

Luna never gives up the slay queen

[spiral ridge]

I do I just wanna be a pain

[twin kindle]

YUSSS

[spiral ridge]

I’m good at that

[craggy dagger]

already did
i told you to
give me something new

[bold geode]

More Caly Ice since it's a "fraud"

[spiral ridge]

Parasect dry skin

[craggy dagger]

atp i might just do no restricted

[spiral ridge]

You basically are

[bold geode]

WHAT HAVEN'T YOU DONE MA'AM

[craggy dagger]

-# zamazenta

[twin kindle]

[spiral ridge]

GO DO THAT

[bold geode]

Legitimately how

[spiral ridge]

they’re surprisingly fun after my hater arc of them

[bold geode]

Like that statistically doesn't make sense

[solid frigate]

I'm back

[molten oasis]

The real monke?

[bold geode]

I'm the real slim shady ...

[twin kindle]

Bait 🙄 common lure ball activities

[craggy dagger]

no zamazenta is boring

[spiral ridge]

How is that bait-

Oh rage bait
Yeah ig so

[craggy dagger]

i can’t figure out my zamazenta spreads lol
i have a working team but the spreads just don’t work

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/5006be1f60f14049

here;'s the OTS Version of the team i will use

Also i love how except Lulu all are in Stellar Novas lol

[spiral ridge]

Was thinking diff kinda bait

[molten oasis]

[twin kindle]

Mm?

[spiral ridge]

Monkey hood raised?

[craggy dagger]

you wanna add her in-

is TSN even alive

[solid frigate]

i'm going to Birmingham regionals Tmr

[twin kindle]

Zip zap 10/10

[bold geode]

@craggy dagger do regular Zamazenta

[craggy dagger]

i get no activity from them

[solid frigate]

yeah still alive but its your opinion

[spiral ridge]

Do Zama with no shield

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Naked dog