competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

So no, you're not fine

Lol

If it helps

[bold geode]

Fuck
Tofu I did the thing again

[mighty stump]

I got a Letter of Complaint, I've been making mistakes at work which I got scolded sort of, been working overtime since cases have been complex

Haven't been sleeping well/restless

[bold geode]

Damn
That sucks, hope things work out

[mighty stump]

We're in the trenches

But I'm a chill guy ig (I am going to noose)

[molten oasis]

im not, just again unsure on what im supposed to do for a future career, i didn't exactly study anything useful in high school, i owe the school i dropped out of money, thats stressing me out

[mighty stump]

Vocational work? Ever explored that area? If higher education isn;'t something you're interested in

[molten oasis]

im looking at trade schools now cuz i fckn hate the traditonal college system

[molten oasis]

do explain that first part plz

idk what that is

[mighty stump]

Vocational Work = Trade School

[molten oasis]

oh, yea im looking at a trade school

[bold geode]

Vocation is vacation but with an o

[molten oasis]

focuses on tech stuff, which is semi interesting to me

the things i like dont really apply to a genuine career so just gotta do the next best thing

[bold geode]

Just turn it on and off bro

[molten oasis]

sure man

[molten oasis]

im also frustrated at my progress in vgc rn, kinda dont wanna play but also wanna improve, and felt like i've plateaued

[bold geode]

Eh I just realized I don't pay enough attention to shit in games, so now I just watch Subway Surfers and now I'm cured

[molten oasis]

im using stupid shit, cuz my brain likes stupid shit

but still

[cyan smelt]

I don't want to play until I figure out why I'm so serious and tilt so easily

[molten oasis]

im just generally stressed and lost rn i think its getting to me

[cyan smelt]

I need to figure out what regs these locals are

[molten oasis]

i am having fun with Rivals rn tho, guess thats a +

[mighty stump]

Wish I could play with my friends but we're in different regions

[bold geode]

Damn
I haven't even touched Rivals myself

Actually funny thing
I never touched TCGP
I downloaded it but never booted it up

[molten oasis]

wait wdym?

[mighty stump]

TCGP?

[mighty stump]

Im Singapore

Theyre EU

Im pretty sure my net would lag

Lol

[molten oasis]

oh valid lol

[bold geode]

TCG Pocket

[molten oasis]

that sucks

[mighty stump]

@bold geode

Highkey this is how I feel

[molten oasis]

me fr lol

[bold geode]

Wrong guy lmao

But also me just at any point of my life

[molten oasis]

TCGP has another event going, im not doing it lol

5 games in a row i could barely get 2

[balmy glen]

gaming

[molten oasis]

to win

[mighty stump]

I've been having fun with my Wigglytuff Weezing deck

[bold geode]

My VGC addiction is too strong to do anything else lmao

[balmy glen]

goat

thats how it should be

[molten oasis]

what deck is that?

is it like status spam

[mighty stump]

yes!

[bold geode]

I did play Fortnite a tiny bit
Actually funny shit my friends said "oh the season is horrible, but it kinda not that bad

[molten oasis]

lol thats so mean

damn why do i pick the worst characters to get good with in every game

[bold geode]

Bro uses the trash cuz he wants to mingle with his people

[molten oasis]

for shooters, ik my playstyle is kinda naturally pretty weird

[bold geode]

I just play Fortnite and suck ass at that

[molten oasis]

and that jsut happens to connect with weird characters

[bold geode]

I love rocket launches in Fort, I'll deadass just run up to people and shoot it point blank at their feet

[molten oasis]

lol

nah i play the character that has mines, but then i also like the ninja esc characters

[bold geode]

Bro wants to be Naruto so bad

[molten oasis]

they're fun, i dont even like Naruto

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[cyan smelt]

is weather ball bolt any good?

[molten oasis]

On sun maybe if you don’t need a certain move or need it for something specific

[cyan smelt]

yeah on sun, just wondering

i didn't realise glacial lance could activate flame body

[molten oasis]

What?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Flame Body

30% chance a Pokemon making contact with this Pokemon will be burned.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Glacial Lance

No additional effect.

Type

Ice

Category

Physical

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

that's a showdown bug then

[molten oasis]

It’s not a contact move wtf

[cyan smelt]

it got burnt from high horsepower

i am noob

[balmy glen]

lmao

[dull ibex]

Hate to admit it

I kinda dig the furret team

[cyan smelt]

caly s and caly i are very strong

[balmy glen]

Nah I’d farm those frauds

[mighty stump]

Me too

Choice Scarf Ting-Lu

[balmy glen]

[mighty stump]

I just fought Jolly Tera Ground Groudon with Gravity

Wat

[cyan smelt]

Why did I think iron valiant got gravity

[dull ibex]

vc?

[dull ibex]

no stop

[mighty stump]

Sure

[dull ibex]

im in farmland as always LMAO

[cyan smelt]

Can anyone recommend some good strategy books to read because I want to get better at understanding strategy

[mighty stump]

?

Like what sort of strategy

[cyan smelt]

Like just general game strategy

[mighty stump]

I don't see how that would assist you

[cyan smelt]

I want to understand stuff about like trades, advancing position etc

Good plays, stuff like that

[mighty stump]

I think your best bet would be Chess theory stuff

But I'm not sure how helpful reading about these concepts would be - written stuff specific to Pokemon do exist

Like VGCguide has conceptual articles regarding Pressure /Predictions

[cyan smelt]

Do I go on vgc twitter for that stuff?

I'll re read vgc guide but I feel like I'm not absorbing the information idk why

[mighty stump]

There may be other things to consider sucha s how you learn said information

If reading books is not a usual way you comfortably take in information

Then trying that wouldn't help, methinks

Could be wrong

[cyan smelt]

I do learn from reading a physical book as opposed to electronically

[mighty stump]

Then Chess Theory, probably

[cyan smelt]

I suppose I could print out vgc guide and take physical notes as well

[mighty stump]

So far

What do you understand regarding trades, advancing positions, etc

[cyan smelt]

Very little I feel like, I understand sometimes it's good to sacrifice a certain mon to get another one in for free and that you should only make a move if it brings you closer to winning the game but I don't understand how to make smart trades or how to make smart moves etc

I'm not good at understanding the strategic aspect of games, I struggle with it in tcg pocket too

[mighty stump]

Sounds like a judgement thing rather than a conceptual thing

Are you able to visualise/plan out a flowchart regarding your actions?

Towards a goal, I mean

[cyan smelt]

I don't know how to flowchart no

[mighty stump]

Well

You'd only recognise what a good trade is or what moves would help you achieve a goal if you know what you're moving towards in the first place

When you lookk at a team you're running, are you able to understand what key players in a matchup?

[cyan smelt]

If I'm against something like caly s I guess my key players would be chien pao and rilla because of the dark type and rilla has av

But it's hard for me to look at my team and assess what the key players are in a mu

[mighty stump]

Do you believe it's from a lack of understanding of what each Pokemon does?

[cyan smelt]

I think it's because I have weak analytical skills and because I don't know what each pokemon does yes

[balmy glen]

Just win

[mighty stump]

Then I'd start from there - probably aside from making physical notes conceptually, without a foundation to apply that knowledge too it won't help much

[balmy glen]

you don’t have to theorize if you get every turn right with hard reading

[mighty stump]

oop

[cyan smelt]

I'm not good enough to make reads

[mighty stump]

My Snorlax hard walling Caly-Shadow fraud

ggez

[cyan smelt]

Good against caly I too right because of thick fat?

[mighty stump]

yer

[balmy glen]

run Snorlax in double restricted it’s time

[mighty stump]

Bro I'm finna

[balmy glen]

we gotta lock in

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/751bb1a3f81a206b my goated team

I have not much time to play

But this team still goated

[balmy glen]

I’d be down to run it with u if we manage something solid lol

[cyan smelt]

Is yours any like that tera rock rock slide one that did well at a couple of tournaments?

[balmy glen]

I meant double restricted cuz I think AV Snorlax sounds solid in that lol

[mighty stump]

Idk if you'll like my Snorlax set...

YUR but the damage output is sadge

[mighty stump]

Nope

[balmy glen]

It’s ok I’d win

[mighty stump]

I have an article relating to the set I love though

[cyan smelt]

Yawn and fissure is nice

[mighty stump]

Based I need to run Heat Crash Snorlax where is he

[balmy glen]

Ice spinner Chien + Yawn

[mighty stump]

Seed Bomb

On god yes

Fuck Miraidon

[balmy glen]

can Snorlax without AV life Glacial Lance + Electro drift lmao

[mighty stump]

Probably

Cause you just need to livce it without Terrain right

If you want you can run LOrb Stellar Pao and threaten KO on both mons lmao

[balmy glen]

me when I win NAIC with Snorlax then c team my own team at worlds 🔥

[mighty stump]

Lemme check

Do you want Miraidon to Tera

[balmy glen]

Calc it with never melt ice btw cuz people are running that

[mighty stump]

ok

[balmy glen]

Honestly could prob just run sitrus

[mighty stump]

26 highest roll (flat number - 67)
75 highest roll (197 flat)
Total to 264
Just run Sitrus

Lol

You can live it though

This is Tera Specs Modest no E-Terrain

Caly-Ice only tickles Snorlax like fr

I can tweak the set to make the double up guaranteed though and then run Sitrus

[mighty stump]

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofulax

Shameless plug

[dull ibex]

Did you want to vc tofu?

Also Snorlax is funny

[balmy glen]

I’m down to try and make a Snorlax gs cup team with u later @mighty stump lol

Could be funny

[mighty stump]

What duo you wanna use

Calydow is perfect for Snorlax btw

[balmy glen]

2nd best Zama player X wtvr Snorlax player lfg

Zama CSR meta gaming with twists lol

[mighty stump]

Bismillah

The Nobody Snorlax lfg

[balmy glen]

me when I combine my team and Ashton Cox’s

[mighty stump]

Where is GS cup on SD this blows camelhooves

[balmy glen]

/challenge gen9vgc2025regg @@@ !Limit One Restricted, Limit Two Restricted, bestof = 3, force open teamsheets

Just start challenging random people in vgc room ezpz

They host them on limitless tours, in my server we practice, and vgc room

[mighty stump]

Right

[mighty stump]

Send your Zama team I forgot what it had

[balmy glen]

My Chromebook died I don’t have it

[mighty stump]

Al I remember is Latios Zama Pao

[balmy glen]

Oh I don’t have Latios anymore

I have bolt 🙂

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000114/masters/ this is my worlds team but i have some changes

[mighty stump]

where would lax and calydow go

Amogus and Pper?

[balmy glen]

Something like that

[balmy glen]

could prob replace ursh

with a redirection

or tw

or we could test the mdb ursh variant ig

[mighty stump]

wokei

[sour flint]

why relaxo?

[gentle crag]

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofulax

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[solid frigate]

Tofu is cookin

[torn parrot]

If only I knew I could play pokemon showdown on my chromebook back in high school

No work would have been done

[spiral ridge]

Mine blocked it after 3 days of me doing this

[mighty stump]

I played Pokemon Showdown in my uni lectures

Lol

[plain drum]

Same

[bold geode]

You too?

[plain drum]

All three of us I guess

[bold geode]

Lmao I would play fuckin Geometry Dash during my lectures or like some mobile puzzle game

Then Showdown came and that changed everything

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[solid frigate]

i guess me too cuz like i just build teams and play teams

in school

[bold geode]

I deadass sometimes boot up games at work

[plain drum]

There’s not a lot I *wouldn’t* do lmao

[solid frigate]

lol

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2260389206-p0p9l7pr1pc3xi32kbtkhee0fcjrkzdpw

[finite vine]

Do we know what would Reg I be about? Or we haven’t got any details for it?

(I feel like I’m kinda late to start doing a team and do any progress for Reg H lol)

[sour flint]

lmaoi

[sour flint]

pretty sure same rule set as reg g

so one restricted

[finite vine]

For now I will have to wait to at least know if it will actually be one restricted

When do they usually announce the next ruleset for the next Reg?

[knotty mirage]

It could be starting the reg for 2 restricted or it could be reg H but with paradox pokemon

[finite vine]

Really wish I could know what exactly cuz I dunno how to start working on a team without knowing what to work on lmao

[knotty mirage]

Aren't we all

[finite vine]

True lol

[torn parrot]

whats funnier in reg G, teeny pawmot or jumbo pawmot

[bold geode]

We going back to Reg G in January
Then next one will probably be double restricted unless said otherwise

[finite vine]

Ohh so regulations can also repeat? Didn’t know that lol

[bold geode]

Well they're repeating this one so

[finite vine]

This happened like in past games?

Or only in SV?

[bold geode]

Um I honestly can't say
Didn't start competitive until this generation so

[finite vine]

Same lol

[foggy lodge]

I think this is the first time they have reused a regulation

Reg "I" aka the regulation from May will be double restricted almost 100%

[knotty mirage]

Prolly they want to save the double restricted for next year world championship

[finite vine]

Well then maybe I could try to work on a double restricted then! ^^

[foggy lodge]

idk i don't think trying to work in double restricted teams is a good idea right now

[knotty mirage]

I mean they can also pull off reg H again

[foggy lodge]

Unless you have double restricteds tournaments coming

[foggy lodge]

Nah they are not doing that

[knotty mirage]

Maybe making reg H ruleset but with added paradox mon

[foggy lodge]

Because may's regulation will be the regulation for worlds

[knotty mirage]

Will see then

[finite vine]

Oh then nvm

[foggy lodge]

Its like

They have no reason to not make worlds double restricted xd

[bold geode]

Prepping for double restricted rn is not a good idea lol

[knotty mirage]

I wonder if zamazenta would still be good on double restricted or something will change

[bold geode]

Do bears shit in the woods?

Zam Caly S
Zam Ogre
Boom

[finite vine]

Why?

[knotty mirage]

I mean i can see zam caly s but zam ogre ?

[foggy lodge]

Kyogre sets rain to protect Zama and nukes with special attack

[bold geode]

Theory crafting in general is bad cuz you don't have any idea how the meta will ACTUALLY shift

[foggy lodge]

And Zama has wide guard and nuke physical damage

[bold geode]

So you can make a team you THINK is good but then fail atrociously

[finite vine]

Ohh I see

[finite vine]

Ah well that makes sense

Welp guess I will have to wait until it’s near the day then 🥲

(Eh. Like that I guess I can shiny hunt the legendary Pokémon I will want to use lol)

[foggy lodge]

Double restricted should be announced around april and be in showdown in the same month

[bold geode]

If you don't like G
My two suggestions are as follows

1. Wait it out
2. Which I really say, play anyways and focus on just sharpening your playing skills cuz in the long run those will DEFINITELY matter

[finite vine]

Got it! ^^

[craggy dagger]

or you can uh
just watch everyone do their thing

[finite vine]

I guess there’s that too lol

[craggy dagger]

but it’s always good to play
even if it’s once in a while so that you don’t get rusty

[chrome knot]

novaaaaaa

[bold geode]

Read option 1

Aw fuck who pressed A on Emma

[chrome knot]

yomama

[next stump]

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[balmy glen]

[sour flint]

those tournaments are only in person right?

[next stump]

yes

[sour flint]

oki

[sour flint]

and its reg g right?

[balmy glen]

yes

[sour flint]

oke

[craggy dagger]

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Oh
Are the IC registrations under a different site?

I know they did that for one event last season but idr which

[chrome knot]

im almost at 0atk csr

[craggy dagger]

ooooo

[torn parrot]

im giving dominos a second chance

[balmy glen]

NAIC, and no

[bold geode]

Keanu how does this fuckin MDB team consistently beat Groudon lmao

I swear I've lost to every single one I've gone up against

[torn parrot]

@shadow wind

[shadow wind]

💥💥💥

[balmy glen]

who cares, its a groudon

[bold geode]

Mainly cuz I've been clapped by at least 10 lmao

[balmy glen]

how

u have a flutter and zama

heat crash does like 5 dmg to me when i play against it

[sour flint]

hi, is there a way to make my showdown look nicer or like atleast make the "battle screen" bigger?

[shadow wind]

Ctrl +

[bold geode]

It just rolls me and if it don't then something else cleans up

Then again I didn't bring Flutter
Eh I guess that's my mistake

[sour flint]

im using the app it does nothing on there (or im dumb)

[bold geode]

Im also now losing games cuz they outplay me on one crucial turn
Gotta clean that up lol

[chrome knot]

pizza time?

[bold geode]

I also think at a certain point once I start bouncing back and forth on an alt then things go downhill for that account
Idk why it sounds dumb but some of my alts no matter what I do I always do poor on them lmao

[torn parrot]

yaaa its pizza time

trying spinach and feta

i heard its a classic

[chrome knot]

dominos is mid im sorry girl

[torn parrot]

for me always feels like a fresh start helps

[torn parrot]

i know

not even mid, iv only seen it as horrible

but i got two pizza deal

people said they were good so ill give it a chance

i can split them up a few days

i was given advice to make it well done

and also pan pizza

so this will be the test

can the best of dominos be good

or will it be shit

we'll se

[dense latch]

where i live dominos is peak

but then when i go to the us it’s so ass 😭

[torn parrot]

the us makes a lot of things ass i hear

ayo

this pan pizza pretty fuckin good

[pearl wind]

[torn parrot]

the well done made it really yummy and crispy good

[bold geode]

The crust slaps but other than that it's really underwhelming

[chrome knot]

well done makes every pizza good

[bold geode]

I want a medium rare pizza please

I had no idea that was an option anyways
I thought every pizza was already well done

[torn parrot]

no

[chrome knot]

nah its like

if u got a bagel double toasted

[torn parrot]

dominos pizza always comes out weird form the oven so a dominos epmployee reccomended i always make it well done

[bold geode]

Sounds like you're just burning it

[timber raptor]

Wait... what is well done for a pizza....like I feel like the equivalent of well done is the crust being firm everywhere... and that's a no from me

[torn parrot]

nah its good

it aint firm at all just slightly crispy

[bold geode]

How is burning shit good
The only two things that taste good burnt are hotdogs and bacon

[torn parrot]

its not burnt at all i think they only keep it in for a few extra minutes

[timber raptor]

Wouldn't that be medium rare, again not entirely sure of the metrics here. I just feel like a well done pizza would be just as much of crime as well done steaks are

[bold geode]

I had a friend in school who was weird AF and wouldn't eat shit unless it was burnt and I was like that's weird

[torn parrot]

this aint burnt

its just dominos sucks at cooking

eveyrthing is undercooked

[bold geode]

That's just making sure the pizza is done fuckin cooking
That's not well done it's just done

[torn parrot]

thats what they consider well done i guess and thats probably why i was told to always select that

[timber raptor]

this i can believe

[bold geode]

I think your Dominos just sucks at cooking shit

I've never had this problem from there

[torn parrot]

its inconsistent it seems

[bold geode]

You actually had me thinking they did temperatures and shit like ah yes I want my pizza rare

[torn parrot]

nahh

this shit is good thp

im into it

[bold geode]

At least it's not Little Caesars

[torn parrot]

damn dominos is so fuckin cheap its crazy

[bold geode]

I just go to the Hut

Especially since it's like literally walking distance from my job lmao

[torn parrot]

my friend ordered form little caesars and it came with no sauce and no cheese

only dough and sausage

[craggy dagger]

that’s a thing?

[torn parrot]

it was hilarious

[chrome knot]

yes..?

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

me who willingly orders no sauce :3

[bold geode]

You sure she didn't get bread sticks lmao

[torn parrot]

i found the picture lmao

[chrome knot]

ok but like

what the fuck is that LMFAO

[bold geode]

I mean that just looks like average Little Caesars cuisine

But nah I got beef with Little Caesars

Cuz like
I thought that I didn't have to call those fuckin Hot N Readys by name right cuz the name is fucking stupid
Which this sounds stupid but lemme cook ok

[craggy dagger]

that’s a pizza/?

[bold geode]

So I walk in there once right
I point to the fucking hotbox that the Hot n Readys are in
And I say "can I get one of those pizzas plz"
And this bitch
Oh this bitch

She gonna put her hands on her hips and rudely go "what pizzas"

Like idk
The fuckin pizzas I am ACTIVELY POINTING TO

Like if she asked me what kind it's whatever cuz they do pepperoni and cheese for those but that nah
Cuz the name is so fucking stupid like "Hot n Ready" like well I sure fuckin HOPE IT IS

Like I wasn't coming in here for a Cold N Unprepared or something

[bold geode]

Also you're a criminal for that
Light sauce is acceptable

[torn parrot]

what does mdb mean

[bold geode]

Michael Derbeste aka Michael Kelsch

[torn parrot]

oh i see thanks

[bold geode]

Anyways ranch on pizza or no

[torn parrot]

oh i dunno actually

never tried that

[bold geode]

My answer
Yes and no

[bold geode]

Missing out

@torn parrot I'm getting pizza for dinner tonight now and it's your fault lol

[chrome knot]

i thought abt it honestly

[atomic portal]

why u gotta trigger my ptsd bro

[torn parrot]

Yayyyy

[torn parrot]

Yayyyy

[bold geode]

Awww my dog was sad cuz I gotta go back to work

[balmy glen]

no it was sad because u didnt name your dog zamazenta

[shadow wind]

Things to name my dog:

Charlie
Murphy
Duke
Zamazenta Crowned-forme
Buddy

[bold geode]

LMAO
My dog is a female Chihuahua

[bold geode]

Things to name my Southern child:
Daisy
Ethan
Dodge RAM battery
Dave

[shadow wind]

Exactly that

Now what is this guy on about

Bro's upset that he has to think about clicking a 120 BP stab 100% accurate spread move

[chrome knot]

?

bait or?

[shadow wind]

Like me baiting or them baiting?

[chrome knot]

you

[shadow wind]

Why do you always think I'm baiting 😭

[bold geode]

Calyrex is not braindead at all lmao

[shadow wind]

While I agree no pokemon is braindead

It's definitely easier than most

[bold geode]

I actually gotta give props to CSR players, that thing really takes skill to pilot well in a single restricted format

So many things that should just easily counter it and yet they still found a way to do well

[shadow wind]

How bout CIR?

[bold geode]

Oh CIR has always been consistent

[chrome knot]

CIR is even harder to position I fear

[shadow wind]

It it though?

[chrome knot]

bait?

[shadow wind]

No

There are numerous ways to get TR up

And once it's there it gets to use a 165 atk stat and can go to town

[bold geode]

I mean yeah but I feel like it's a little harder to remove
With CSR uh oh singular Dark move and I don't have tera help me
CIR is bulky bitch

Both are really scary tbh but
Actually I can't say which one is better

[shadow wind]

Almost impossible to OHKO it without stat buffs

[bold geode]

From a statistics standpoint probably Ice Rider but generally it's hard

[chrome knot]

the humble:
taunt
foul play
like 10 high usage pokemon that threaten OHKOs if not played carefully
will o wisp
knock off + intim cycle

its not just point and click adventure lol

[bold geode]

Yeah no people think Calyrex is impossible to deal with but honestly if you can't deal with em at all, that's a fat team flaw

[chrome knot]

thats an issYOU

[shadow wind]

What are the 10 high usage pokemon that threaten OHKOs?

I can think of like 3 tops

[bold geode]

Shadow Rider i could think of
Incin
Chien Pao
Flutter Mane
Maybe Hearthflame depending on spread
Gholdengo if it don't get ass blasted first
Chi Yu
Lunala same deal as Gholdengo

[chrome knot]

Gholdengo on Terapagos Teams
CSR does irreversible damage
Rock + Fire Pon
Miraidon if no Rillaboom
Specs Flutter
Ursh-Dark
Chi Yu
Chien-Pao

[bold geode]

CIR you got
Zamazenta tough MU
Hearthflame
Entei
Hands
Grimmsnarl (also CSR)
Chi Yu
Rockpon

[chrome knot]

Zamazenta is literally the worst uphill battle mu

[shadow wind]

Yeah but this is the generation of tera'ing

So any chance of OHKO'ing is thrown out the window with tera

[bold geode]

CSR can deal with Zama but CIR oh boy lmao
Good luck playing your heart out there

[chrome knot]

great I burnt my tera turn 1 and now theres something looming in the back that if enough time is wasted will just bonk me

[shadow wind]

Have fun surviving the 4 turns of TR then

With the Ice Ground coverage to hit pretty much everything

[bold geode]

There's only two teams that scare me as a Zama player
Hirofumi's Poison Ice Rider and that God forsaken abomination Alex Underhil brought into the world

[chrome knot]

here have my mirai/hands mu where my hands is slower than cir now im gonna be clicking drain punch doing really good chip and become a nighbtmare to get rid of 🤩

[bold geode]

Hands is a fucking unit

[shadow wind]

Wow the MU that won worlds?

[chrome knot]

wowza who woulda thought activating iron hands ability is fucking good ! ?

[shadow wind]

Yeah actually real

Bro just got sat on the sidelines until that revelation

And yeah hands does do well to mess with Calyrex but there's still a whole other pokemon you have to protect and a whole other pokemon you need to watch out for

[chrome knot]

@bold geode 4atk or sit till 0atk?

[shadow wind]

It isn't a solved MU

[bold geode]

For what?

[chrome knot]

csr

i alr reset, we goin all the way

[bold geode]

Ooh damn that's tough

LMAO THEN WHY ASK

[chrome knot]

dunnnooooo

[bold geode]

Lol
Tbf that one was actually a tough decision
Cuz 4 atk is almost there
Actually my shiny Primarina is 1 IV attack

[chrome knot]

0&1 is the same @ lvl 50

[bold geode]

First try too

I wasn't even trying, I was just tryna get shinies for that one Infernape team I made and then I was like "damn 1 Attack I'm keeping you bitch"

[chrome knot]

just waiting for the magic moment I strength sap back to 333hp

[bold geode]

I was finna ask how you were checking

[shadow wind]

Also wait, were you guys arguing for the opinion of the Calyrexes being fair and balanced?

[bold geode]

I don't necessarily think they're 100% balanced, but I also don't think they're INSANELY busted like some people think

Like impossible to beat

[next stump]

I see what you’re saying about calyrex being easy but pokémon’s not like other games where you can really call things easy… That’s like saying using a chess piece is easy. You’re conflating being good with being easy which kinda makes sense but they’re different ideas

[shadow wind]

See now that's how you get someone's opinion to change

Not asking if I was ragebaiting

I was getting those two mixed together I guess yeah

Very very good pokemon

Also this whole ladder stuff is straight making me mad

I'm at 1520 and I'm playing a guy at 1390

If I lose I'm losing 1 shamillion elo

And 1 shamillion lost

[chrome knot]

@bold geode I HIT IT

I GOT 0ATK -NATURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bold geode]

You really did it

[chrome knot]

I REGAINED 126 LOL

[bold geode]

POG

[chrome knot]

lemme get reaction that was kinda funny

[bold geode]

kills it accidentally

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

.

[spiral ridge]

oh boy

goodluck

[chrome knot]

FWAHUIOFAWHY98IOUFGAWHGOWA

ITS NATURALLY MODEST

im the luckiest girl on earth

[spiral ridge]

yayy

[bold geode]

Don't they wanna be Timid?

[chrome knot]

yes but +SpAtk-Atk naturally is cooler than like

+SpDef -Atk lmfao

shes a born KILLER

[bold geode]

Frfr

Calm Horse
That would just be the fucking Dumbledore thing all again

"Calyrex did you click Astral Barrage again" Dumbledore asked calmly

[chrome knot]

shes beautiful

[shadow wind]

Wait why the Calyrex?

Wouldn't you need the horse to be zero attack?

[chrome knot]

no

the onion is what takes the stats

whoever told u horse was wrong and I was trying to correct them lol

fusion mons take the stats/moves of the more important mon

which in csr case is the onion guy

[silver berry]

Is there someone else to my team I should add that synergies with rain?

I have pelipper, Altaria, Goodra, Sawsbuck, Quaquaval, and Florges

[lofty tartan]

[chrome knot]

what the hell

[silver berry]

I’m new lol

[chrome knot]

doesnt altaria turn off the rain

or well weather related benefits

[silver berry]

Not that I know of?

[chrome knot]

cloud nine

[next stump]

dudeeee I am starting a pokemon club at the school I teach at, I’m the sponsor of it

[silver berry]

I don’t have that ability on them

[lofty tartan]

Natural Cure? Oh Lawdy

[chrome knot]

wtfff thats sick asf

[next stump]

time to teach kids to click surging strikes

[silver berry]

Or wait what,

[lofty tartan]

Altaria's ability is either Cloud Nine or Natural Cure

[silver berry]

Yeah he has natural cure

[lofty tartan]

Natural Cure is pretty meh, at best.

[silver berry]

I use Altaria for decent bulk and to set tail wind

[lofty tartan]

You have Pelipper, who can set Tailwind.

[silver berry]

While still having moonblast, dragon dance, and hurricane

[lofty tartan]

And isn't as useless as Altaria

[silver berry]

I like having 2 setters for tailwind just to be safe as that’s just me

But it might be not good, I’m not sire

[lofty tartan]

Dragon Dance raises speed and attack, so it's really not something a special attacker should be clicking

[shadow wind]

Thank you very much for this info

I legit thought it was the less important one

So that you could get those forms with the right stats

[silver berry]

Yeah, I’m thinking of swapping it with just another special hitter move

[lofty tartan]

It's got 70 base special attack. Two tailwind setters is not necessary. It doesn't make you "safer" by having two.

If Altaria is a favorite, by all means, use it, just understand that overall it's not a very "good" mon

[silver berry]

Understandable

My main issue is Sawsbuck

[lofty tartan]

Yeah he's pretty meh-tier too.

[silver berry]

I really want a physical hitter, and the reason why I like him is because of his ability sap sipper

Because for doubles to specify, it can null out grass moves that are targeting my water pokemon at least

[lofty tartan]

No one is throwing Grass moves into Sawsbuck. He resists them.

[silver berry]

But other than that, he’s only there to be a physical hitter

Well I’m specifying doubles for this case. Cause I think sap sipper takes in affect as well even if a grass move hits your other pokemon on the field?

[lofty tartan]

No

[silver berry]

Someone told me that but I wasn’t sure if it was true

[lofty tartan]

Sap Sipper: Attack is raised by one stage when the Pokémon is hit by a Grass-type move. User receives no damage from Grass-type attacks.

Whoever told you that was wrong.

[silver berry]

Than I might need to find just a different pokemon that can have synergy with rain, I was looking to maybe have like a dark/steel/or maybe a ground type just to add some variety just to cover for more typings

[bold geode]

Real shit

[bold geode]

Me using Hoodra

[shadow wind]

Just ran into a Tera steel Miraidon

[lofty tartan]

Yeah if Sap Sipper did that, Hoodra would probably see more play.

[shadow wind]

They really be running anything nowadays

[silver berry]

Is there any pokemon you guys would suggest to replace Sawsbuck? Sawsbuck is just to be a physical hitter, my current moveset for him is Trailblaze, Swords dance, horn leech, Meha horn,

But I think I just need a different pokemon that can hit with physical damage instead

[shadow wind]

Any tier restrictions?

[bold geode]

Can you not use Rillaboom? What's the team even

[molten oasis]

Rillaboom goated

[silver berry]

I don’t have access to them right now, and right now I’m running Pelipper, Altaria, Goodra, Quaquaval, and Florges

[molten oasis]

Is that all you have access to?

[silver berry]

Atm yes

[molten oasis]

You’re stuck with the base SV dex?

[silver berry]

Yeah lol

[molten oasis]

Gotcha

[silver berry]

I can trade, and I do have some pokemon from the DLC, like skarmory and some others

But I just need a physical hitter

Or at least that’s what I think I need

[solid frigate]

hoi

[bold geode]

So is this game hard or am I just stupid

[molten oasis]

It’s kinda hard

[left bobcat]

Very hard indeed

[drowsy comet]

What should i add as my last mon, im not sure

garlic ICE (Calyrex-Ice) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD
Brave Nature

• Glacial Lance
• Protect
• Trick Room
• High Horsepower

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Spore
• Rage Powder
• Giga Drain
• Pollen Puff

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Detect
• Surging Strikes
• Close Combat
• Aqua Jet

Pelipper @ Life Orb
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Weather Ball
• Hurricane
• Wide Guard
• Helping Hand

Landorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Force
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Sandsear Storm
• Sludge Bomb
• U-turn
• Earth Power

[left bobcat]

Holy shi

[umbral olive]

Either Palafin or Flutter Mane

[left bobcat]

Flutter mane

[drowsy comet]

I was thinking eleki

[umbral olive]

Flutter Mane or Archaludon

[drowsy comet]

archaludon seems good

but flutter is good maybe

[dense latch]

this looks like yuta ishagaki’s worlds team

[drowsy comet]

a bit

more like navjit isha tho

i liked his eleki+landorus leads

[dense latch]

you can do eleki then

[drowsy comet]

mhm

[dense latch]

i’ve seen raging bolt work here too

[drowsy comet]

hm

[dense latch]

or go full yuta and run valiant

[drowsy comet]

i had that for a while lmao

its on my other calice team

[dense latch]

i feel like you’d want modest lando i

[drowsy comet]

how come

[dense latch]

scarf allows you to outspeed most of the format already

[balmy glen]

Take off giga drain and just put sludge bomb/clear smog

[drowsy comet]

hm

[dense latch]

yea

giga drain’s recovery is irrelevant when you have regenerator

[balmy glen]

your teams pretty much just the 2nd place team from worlds like they said above tbh

[left bobcat]

Clear smog tho? Eh

This isn’t like reg h where you can just set up more

[dense latch]

btw keanu did you ever release evs for your worlds team? i just took a look at it and it looks rly cool

[balmy glen]

it got 2nd at worlds for a reason lol

clear smog helps the CSR Dozo mu in general

and that Miraidon Dozo team mu

it’s kind of needed tbh

[left bobcat]

Oh

[balmy glen]

ye just depends on your variants

[left bobcat]

Didn’t know ngl I’m taking a break and hoooooo man

[dense latch]

i’ve seen those dozo teams way more than i expected

[left bobcat]

Seems like I missed a lot

[balmy glen]

Nah I gave my team to my friend going to Birmingham tho so hopefully he wins, I’m also updating the team so I might post it after Birmingham

[dense latch]

it’s like one of every 3/4 games i play i feel

[drowsy comet]

Keanu you went to worlds?!?

[balmy glen]

Yes I got 20th

[drowsy comet]

Thats fire

[left bobcat]

Shooooo

[dense latch]

ohh ok thx anyways :))

[gentle crag]

eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps

[drowsy comet]

can you send the link to the team? kinda just wanna check it out (I promise i wont copy it lmao)

[balmy glen]

I mean I don’t mind if u copy it

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000114/masters/

[drowsy comet]

Nice team

[solid frigate]

wait you did not that

[drowsy comet]

huh

what item should i run on pelliper

i cant run either life orb or focus sash btw

[solid frigate]

Covert Cloak or Focus Sash

[drowsy comet]

k

[balmy glen]

Covert cloak or safety goggles if u can’t run those other items

What’s your team

Oh just read it

[solid frigate]

its literally the text wall above lol

[balmy glen]

U could also try room service

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz i can't see any TR synergy besides Amogus

[balmy glen]

I mean with Caly ice tr synergy isn’t needed

[solid frigate]

fair enough

[balmy glen]

Calyice is the tr synergy that things a monster by itself lol

[solid frigate]

its literally just a bonus honestly

Here we fucking go

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2260739996-mzf4n2uukws53am3uhrkzd5eqcnrt9dpw

ok yeah i understand how horrible Icicle Crash accuracy-

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2260746891

finally saw the first Palkia

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2260748402

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2260750855-wy8sc5ifwozje68nxqvo144feh93nh7pw

What the fu

[cyan smelt]

Is ghost tera on Zama and chien Pao best

[balmy glen]

Ghost tera on Zama is horrible unless your playing the mirror lol

[cyan smelt]

Dragon better?

[rustic mountain]

ghost on pao is solid ive used it b4

[chrome knot]

why are you green.

[plain drum]

Bc Tree

[rustic mountain]

tree role

[plain drum]

Gotta water the daycare helpers

[chrome knot]

not fond of your kind…..

[rustic mountain]

[cyan smelt]

Even tree managed to water the tree, I keep getting sniped

[solid frigate]

WAIT I DID NOT NOTICE YOUR NAME TURNED GREEN LOL

[mighty stump]

Tree more like

free

[dull ibex]

toxic tofu

[solid frigate]

free paper

[molten oasis]

You’re green wut

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Y'all ever seen a Koraidon click meteor beam?

[chrome knot]

im SORRY???

[shadow wind]

Shocked me too

[torn parrot]

this lemon brook person

has been like unable to be dethroned for a while now

[shadow wind]

And what were they even cooking?

Like heck I'm clicking shadow ball

[spiral ridge]

YOU WERE ON YOUR PHONE

[mighty stump]

Seems reasonable though

Its a potential game of chicken

[shadow wind]

I think I have hit a single Calyrex shadow with a shadow ball

I'm conditioned to not click shadow ball

[cyan smelt]

I'll have to be conditioned to not click sucker punch because they're either fighting, fairy or dark

[shadow wind]

Dnite into CIR

[torn parrot]

I don’t beleive you

That’s not real, this is fake news

I refuse

Why did that one shot without a crit

[shadow wind]

+2 Sword of ruin Tera normal

[torn parrot]

oh

howl right

[patent marsh]

:kekwtf:

[solid frigate]

Yeah what the fu

[shadow wind]

My poor Groudon got one tapped by it

[solid frigate]

sometimes I don’t understand people’s Thoughts

Special Attacking Koraidon is a New one

[solid frigate]

bruh

[shadow wind]

I know

[cyan smelt]

Guess it gets around the intimidate

[shadow wind]

I mean to be fair, Tera rock meteor beam hurts

Regardless what it’s coming from

Strong move, stab, +1

[solid frigate]

Just to remember

Koraidon’s SpA is 100

[shadow wind]

Yeah but his whole ability is boosting his attack 😭😭

[shadow wind]

Actually not bad

Groudon also has 100 spatk

[cyan smelt]

I've seen tera fire eruption Groudon

[solid frigate]

the only time i see Valid Special Attacking Moves from a Physical Attacker is Salamence-

[cyan smelt]

Next up outrage miraidon

[solid frigate]

i already saw that in wave 1

[shadow wind]

😭😭

[mighty stump]

I HAVE BOYGHT A NEW CHILD

[shadow wind]

Nah I want special Zama

[mighty stump]

His name is Fridge

[solid frigate]

kill me

[shadow wind]

That’s lowkey dope

[solid frigate]

Put it jn the fridge

do it

do it for the funny

[shadow wind]

Short circuit 😔

[mighty stump]

He likes his batteries cold

(can you guys tell work has been stressful)

[solid frigate]

Well kinda

[mighty stump]

Overheat Talonflame btw

[cyan smelt]

Wasn't special ttar also a thing

And special dragapult

[mighty stump]

Sort of, there was Snarl and Ice Beam

[shadow wind]

Special Pult is massive for OU

Will o wisp and Twave with hex

[solid frigate]

do it yourself pls lol

[solid frigate]

bro has Sneasler Copium

[coarse sail]

Can someone help me with my team? Using a trick room team (setter is farigiraf) with Iron Crown, Miriadon as a non-trick room attacker, Blood moon urs, and ogerpon wellspring. My main weaknesses are ice, ground, fighting and dark, and i have one pokemon left to cover these types, does someone know which one i have to add or which pokemon i have to replace to help resist these types? Help would be much appreciated!

[knotty mirage]

Does regidrago count as tanky pokemon it have fantastic amount of health but the defence and sp def is yeah

[solid frigate]

Bro took my idea moment

where is Whims

[cyan smelt]

Why not use iron hands

[solid frigate]

and also where is your pokepaste,i need to compare to my team

cuz i saw CROWN

[cyan smelt]

Do U also use iron boulder

[solid frigate]

yeah tried it on Kyogre Team before

i discontinued the idea

[knotty mirage]

Damn is iron boulder really that bad

[cyan smelt]

I like that it can ignore protect and it also has sacred sword

[solid frigate]

its not bad it has potential

[knotty mirage]

So just like zacian got it

[solid frigate]

the last time i see Zacian they all use Swords Dance Balance

Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 76 HP / 172 Atk / 4 Def / 84 SpD / 172 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Behemoth Blade
• Play Rough
• Swords Dance
• Protect

Usually run that,got that spread mostly from Drago

[cyan smelt]

Do U run coaching or howl

[solid frigate]

yeah Coaching Shifu moment

[cyan smelt]

I'm considering running coaching shifu to deal with tera ghost incin

[solid frigate]

I mean up to you

[knotty mirage]

Is running scarf regidrago on caly i trick room team a good idea ?

[cyan smelt]

Might also help against caly i

[solid frigate]

i don't have the experience on it so dunno

[cyan smelt]

The only regidragos I've seen have life orb

And I think tailwind

[knotty mirage]

I'm thinking of using it for next month reg that is maybe i can catch some people off guard with it

Sending it out beside farigiraf seem's good enough

[cyan smelt]

Yeah you probably want to avoid fake out

[solid frigate]

i'm maining Zamazenta and i am bringing it to Birmingham

[cyan smelt]

Tera ghost might be good for caly s too

[solid frigate]

CalyS?

[cyan smelt]

Against caly s

[solid frigate]

Are you saure about that

[coarse sail]

Not really but it just has 7 weaknesses

[solid frigate]

have you really tried that before tho

[coarse sail]

I’ll send it to ya can’t send it in here

[cyan smelt]

Maybe tera dragon is better

[solid frigate]

its a link

[solid frigate]

just Tera Normal Drago or Steel for Its coverage

[knotty mirage]

I mean that's what i'm thinking of using helping hand from fari to tera dragon energy

Maybe i will also slot dhengo for drago switch in

[solid frigate]

Helping Hand Fari is a scam for me (Learnt that from Miraidon)

[coarse sail]

i use a different site

[coarse sail]

I'm more offense-focused so i dont use helping

[coarse sail]

Nah but it just sounds bad

[balmy glen]

Seems ok in CTS

Wouldn’t use scarf Drago in OTS tbh

[knotty mirage]

I'm playing on cart ladder so that's the reason i want to use it

[dull ibex]

1-5 🙂

[lofty tartan]

What? Life Orb Regidrago with Dragon Energy that acts the same as Eruption?

Dragon Fang/Draco Plate. That's what I was running, same as Velocity (Grant)

Lorb feels counterintuitive

[cyan smelt]

Idk it was probably just low ladder stuff

[chrome knot]

i wouldddd

i be clickin the funny button

[dapper crag]

Hey guys. I started playing pkmn again. I was just asking myself if the ranked world in Scarlet and violet is still big? I never played competetive PKMN, but wanted to givie it a try.. Is it worth buying Scarlet or violet and try it out? Or is the competetive already dead

[chrome knot]

if u wanna play competitive but unsure if you’d like/find it worth you can play for free on pokemon showdown, its what many people play & practice on

[dapper crag]

Hmmm.. but is competetive in general dead?

[balmy glen]

no

[dapper crag]

What are most of you playing?

Scarlet or pkmn showdown or smthng elese?

[balmy glen]

both

[dapper crag]

Hmmm is there a platform or discord chanel where i can register for tournaments ( in future) or kind of leagues etc

and get information in general about competetive pokmn

[lofty tartan]

https://limitlesstcg.com/

This has online tournaments for VGC that you can register for.

As far as information goes

[dapper crag]

but that is tcg right?

[lofty tartan]

No it's both

[dapper crag]

im talking about ehm the classical pokemon

oh ok

[lofty tartan]

I'm a tournament organizer on Limitless

Definitely both

Forgetting how to get the bot to link - it's been a bit

[gentle crag]

EVing resources:
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-1-how-to-make-simple-ev-spreads
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-2-the-next-step-why-woul-you-want-a-more-complex-ev-spread
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-3

https://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ev_distribution

https://www.smogon.com/rs/articles/magic_stat_numbers#attack

woodtofu (ID 250386799363489808)

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[dapper crag]

Oh nice ty!

[lofty tartan]

There it goes

Was wondering when that was gonna fire.

Those should help you out

[dapper crag]

Ty 🙂

[lofty tartan]

Sure thing

[dapper crag]

Are the tournaments online?

[lofty tartan]

Yeah, through Limitless.

There's also, I think, four Global Challenges that will be happening in January, February, March, and April that will take place online over cart.

Those are official tournaments.

[dapper crag]

How many players are taking place in the tournaments?

[lofty tartan]

It differs with each event.

There's never a set number

[dapper crag]

So, pkmn competetive is still popular

[lofty tartan]

Yes.

[dapper crag]

Cool 🙂

[lofty tartan]

Probably more popular than it's ever been, thanks to social media and official coverage.

Toronto is the next Regional, taking place this weekend, and 918 players are registered for the Masters Division

[solid frigate]

especially Gen 9 DLC also Promote Competitive Pokemon in official Format(Kinda,Just i. doubles,They still do 6v6)

[lofty tartan]

I feel like that was more catering to the desire for doubles battles in the game, from players, rather than promoting vgc. I guess it's up for interpretation. 🤷

[torn parrot]

byaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/gogo-gogo-matsumoto-punch-punch-forever-ppf-sandwich-gif-4548798926917163418

[vocal anvil]

Can you check my competitive team?

[umbral olive]

@vocal anvil check your pms

[molten oasis]

goated yt series

[left bobcat]

Woop

[bold geode]

@next stump because I fear it now
How fast are NAIC registrations gonna go compared to EUIC?

[next stump]

they’re gonna very very fast

[bold geode]

Fuck
Can you do it on a phone? My laptop is a bit slow so if possible I could have both open

Either that or grab my mom's laptop and have both open lol

[spiral ridge]

You prob have the full day

[bold geode]

No they open at a specific time iirc and it's first come first serve
And both waves went by quick for EUIC apparently

[spiral ridge]

Did they go in under 24 hrs? Damn

[bold geode]

Was that English

[spiral ridge]

Now it is

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Aight I understand now
Yes
There were some people who literally refreshed page RIGHT AT XX:00 (when it went up) and still missed out

[spiral ridge]

Jeez

Makes sense ig

[bold geode]

God I hope me actually going to an event this year won't be just crushed because I can't get a spot

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/244d838358e69df0

Should i make my Amoonguss specially defensive in this team or physically defensive?

I feel like i already have some good win cons against physical attackers with Zamazenta + Coaching Urshifu/Urshifu itself, Pelipper and Raging Bolt

btw if keanu sees this yeah i ended up using his team lol

[umbral olive]

Use this Amoonguss set

[foggy lodge]

I don't want to recycle a reg H spread

[chrome knot]

244 will be universal anyways

optimal sitrus recovery hp#

[left bobcat]

Yeah I did thattttttttttttt

[bold geode]

If anyone doubts this spread for Reg G, just know at the beginning of the regulation Joe did a couple of streams during some coaching sessions and he had them use this exact spread minus the tera and speed IVs

[knotty briar]

I'm helping a friend prepare for 2025 reg G
How does this team look?

[torn parrot]

water oger is less useful cus of the sun
try raging bolt or walking wake maybe

[knotty briar]

Alright thx

[umbral olive]

Use fire orgerpon

[foggy lodge]

Why booster energy Flutter

I think if you are booster energy with Koraidon or Groudon you need sunny day

[torn parrot]

could could give it sash or specs

[umbral olive]

Maybe replace groudon with Koraidon, Use fire ogerpon over water ogrepon, and give flutter mane choice specs

[foggy lodge]

And Raging Bolt is mandatory in Groudon/Koraidon teams

Literally solves all of Groudon's bad match ups

Also what is that Rillaboom set xd

[chrome knot]

i wish u didnt say anything

[knotty briar]

How's this?
He's new to competitive so hes unfortunately not budging on the Groudon

[dense latch]

groudon can work but it might be hard for someone new to pilot it

[foggy lodge]

Id drop taunt on Tornadus and it on Inci

Or add it to Flutter tho i think icy wind works better to have a second speed control but you need sunny day

[dense latch]

at first glance caly s + redirection cooks this team

[knotty briar]

I'm thinking the same
It's kinda why I was asking for second opinions

[dense latch]

groudon is also threatened by several spread moves, if you’re able to fit it on the team i would look for wide guard support

[knotty briar]

The only wide guard mon I'm seeing that MIGHT fit is Garganacl

[dense latch]

i think chi yu could work

slap a scarf on it and it outspeeds caly i and can hit it through redirection with spread

[knotty briar]

Who should I should I replace
Torn or incin?

Guessing cat

[dense latch]

most likely yea

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/a95d64fa4ccb6bb8

Day 2 worlds

And i think the most similar team i found to your team was this one https://pokepast.es/68332d05a7a4a5a5 , top 16 Los Angeles

[knotty briar]

This is what I've got so far
Any more suggestions?

[next stump]

looks fine for him to start playing

especially as a beginner

[dense latch]

does that chi yu outspeed max speed caly s?

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

[dense latch]

alr

[knotty briar]

By 3 points

[dense latch]

i couldnt remember if it was 228 modest or timid

i’d consider tera ghost on chi yu to avoid fake out and get rid of your weaknesses

[knotty briar]

Gotcha

[rustic mountain]

its been a pretty consistent spread on shroom for as long as ive been playing vgc

[next stump]

there are a ton of old heads who have been running the same amoonguss spread for 10 years

[dense latch]

yea i think jeudy azzarelli mentioned he’s been using 244/156/108 on it since like 2014

or something close to that spread

[rustic mountain]

lmao makes sense

its my default shroom spread nd the one im currently using

[dense latch]

discovering ev bumps was a life changing moment for me

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

tree

its time.

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[chrome knot]

toronto

[misty helm]

If I want my breloom to be any good is it mandatory that it knows spore

[chrome knot]

…

[misty helm]

Singles player here

[chrome knot]

noo just

interesting time to want to use breloom

[misty helm]

Is breloom only good if it has spore

[knotty briar]

@dense latch @next stump @foggy lodge @torn parrot thx for helping polish off the team

[gentle crag]

bman54319 has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp, mlbd, maxihd, mayahoppins

[torn parrot]

np

[next stump]

a better question is why would you not use spore

it’s a great move, especially in singles

[misty helm]

You have a good point

I shall wait until my shroomish I just found knows spore before evolving it

[chrome knot]

see u friday dillon

[dense latch]

np!! hope your friend enjoys the format

[knotty briar]

I hope he does too
I'll be using my Calyrex-ice trick room team again

[craggy dagger]

toronto this week-??

[rustic mountain]

is it the same 6 u had showed me last ur using or something different

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2261312078-sz3qcof7mpv03bfsa9kpztaqazj2nlcpw

why did he forfeit-

[spiral ridge]

Yup :3

[dense latch]

resisted weather ball onto entei was definitely a move

[rustic mountain]

lower ladder dude

[dense latch]

sometimes when you tilt enough even the slightest inconvenience in a game makes you wanna forfeit

[rustic mountain]

dont try to make sense of it, also u had tw up they didnt, prolly felt w/o speed control itd b tough to mount a comeback. even tho they prolly had the pieces to still contend

[solid frigate]

yeah i still need to escape from it

[rustic mountain]

a lot of lower ladder is 1 bad turn = forfeit

[dense latch]

honestly ladder early into a reg is tough

[rustic mountain]

even if its not over

[foggy lodge]

not even that is just drop the controller and i have to wait until timer runs out lol

[solid frigate]

yeah exactly

[rustic mountain]

ive seen that on any lvl of ladder haha

thats jus some1 being salty

[solid frigate]

I'm missing on every Bleakwind great

butat least Grimm is gone

[dense latch]

yea bleakwind is def not a reliable move

when i ran non rain sandsear it double missed more than it hit

[solid frigate]

yeah no shit

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2261314923-hi51jl9ki5i6iuz8hupd3ycruiivdjfpw

This is my most horrible match of my life.

[strange fjord]

i agree. that is a horrible match

this is funny tho

[shadow wind]

Looks like every single one of my matches

HOW DID HE DOUBLE MISS TWICE???

[strange fjord]

bruh

[left bobcat]

Oof

Unfortunate

[strange fjord]

my first match of the day and got a salty guy

[shadow wind]

😭😭

[left bobcat]

Let’s go gambling

[shadow wind]

Man I hate it when people are like that

[strange fjord]

they forfeited right after.

[shadow wind]

Good

What restricted did they have?

Calyrex?

[left bobcat]

Calyrex

[strange fjord]

they literally are using alolan muk lmao

[shadow wind]

Calyrex players have been getting a bad stereotype…

[shadow wind]

Man what the frick

Yes sir! 3 Pokémon that can’t hit fire types!

[placid mist]

How do you get money for teams

to ev them

[next stump]

academy ace tournament or using the item printer in the DLC

[shadow wind]

I just be staying broke and killing Chansey

[strange fjord]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2261320559-sqmfjoeafwplrs5mciyyhf7104aw4rbpw
even high roll would not kill Rhydon btw

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. 252 HP  / 4 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 179-211 (84.4 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[dense latch]

bro got crit and still couldn’t lock in 😭

[shadow wind]

Now what if they were adamant

[shadow wind]

I know, I was so mad

And the terapagos and Grimm were low

[dense latch]

the irony lmao

[torn parrot]

the fucking guy named hax reliant

flamed me because he got flinched