competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

God I hate that team

[molten oasis]

but i also figured pao torn could win the game from there since miraidon cant take icicle crash

or pao bolt

[solid frigate]

at least i can beat its sleep and Terrain mode with Mirai but like bruh

[solid frigate]

i learnt that from the hard way

when we did B03

[bold geode]

Deadass my first loss the other day lol

[shadow wind]

It's just annoying as a concept

[molten oasis]

i forgot how annoying the not specs miraidon are

[shadow wind]

They be protecting and I am baffled

Oh ok

I thought I was tera'ing to take less damage

Also Groudon just about threw against Miraidon

Oh yeah, I guess I didn't want you to hit the other electric type

[molten oasis]

dude why are im fighting screens eleki

[shadow wind]

Is that that Calyrex team?

I've seen eleki a couple of times but shockingly they don't like to bring eleki against me

[solid frigate]

huh

[shadow wind]

Back-to-back games by the way

Leave me alone 😭

[solid frigate]

Worlds team is everywhere lmao

[shadow wind]

Now the second person played it a lot worse

They set up tr

[solid frigate]

Why do they not lead Ogerpon

[shadow wind]

They didn't bring either grass type

[solid frigate]

why-

[shadow wind]

Can't complain

[solid frigate]

like legit why

[shadow wind]

No clue

People don't got that Groudon MU knowledge

😭

[solid frigate]

Groudon kinda just fuck up himself if Ogerpon was lead against it

It sets up sun FOR OGERPON

[shadow wind]

Yeah...

That Ivy cudgel hurts

Like a lot

[solid frigate]

I'm not even running Max Attack ogerpon and it still hurts

[shadow wind]

252 Atk Hearthflame Mask Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel vs. 204 HP / 4 Def Groudon in Sun: 109-130 (54.2 - 64.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I mean I guess wood hammer does more

[solid frigate]

Firefly (Ogerpon-Hearthflame) (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 212 HP / 76 Atk / 28 Def / 12 SpD / 180 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Ivy Cudgel
• Wood Hammer
• Follow Me
• Spiky Shield

[shadow wind]

But like I'm also setting up Grassy terrain for you

76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Ogerpon-Hearthflame Wood Hammer vs. 204 HP / 4 Def Groudon: 168-198 (83.5 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Praying to the gods right now

[solid frigate]

Literally hurts A LOT

[shadow wind]

+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 204 HP / 4 Def Groudon in Sun: 210-248 (104.4 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

😔

[solid frigate]

yeah-

thats why i am always confident to lead Fari Oger

[shadow wind]

140 defense is not enough I guess

Man

[solid frigate]

i mean its a Gen 9 mon

with Zacian Boost

[shadow wind]

Just looking at Miraidon in the team builder is dumb

[solid frigate]

it is dumb.

[shadow wind]

No wonder this thing won worlds

[solid frigate]

but at least i'm trying Crown

[shadow wind]

What if they could stack terrains

[solid frigate]

no pls no

[shadow wind]

Electric + Psychic terrain

Crown would be eating

[solid frigate]

this would make things complicated

[solid frigate]

what the fuck

[shadow wind]

First Rayquaza team I've seen in like 6 months

[solid frigate]

i'm not suprised about Rayquaza cuz Monke did that before but what the fuck is he doing

[cyan smelt]

Cancel weather and terrain

[solid frigate]

i know but like What is Dozogiri doing here

[cyan smelt]

No idea

[shadow wind]

People hate team building I guess

[solid frigate]

and why am i murdering kids in Cart with Pagos on Casual Battles

[shadow wind]

Well the Rayquaza lost to the better flying/dragon espeeder

"One of us is going to have to change" ahh turn 1

[molten oasis]

I REMEMBER WHY I HATE INCIN AGAIN

[solid frigate]

welp

[molten oasis]

like imr eally losing to this guys god damn eleki cm kyogre team because of incin, i hate this

[shadow wind]

Incin is uber annoying

[molten oasis]

its likely a skill issue, im still irritated

[solid frigate]

me when i see a Koraidon team when i am using Pagos

This Matchup FUCKING SUCKS

[shadow wind]

Like I can't speak on that from personal experience but having your restricted not be able to hold CA I can see how that would kill a team

[craggy dagger]

me when i see any meta restricted
well i guess my journey ends here

[molten oasis]

i need lando for that mu

[shadow wind]

Calyrex 😭

Can only have so many counters...

[solid frigate]

THANK YOU

I BEATEN KORAIDON

[shadow wind]

Now this is epic

The increase of Miraidons has nothing to do with my success

[solid frigate]

ok Tera Ghost Chi Yu Survived a Flutter Mane Shadow Ball

how-

[shadow wind]

120 base spdef be doin that

[solid frigate]

i did not invest on Spdef btw

just HP

and Speed

and Bit of SpA

[shadow wind]

Still base 120 spdef

It can eat a hit

[solid frigate]

i need to check

[shadow wind]

Most Miraidon are timid right?

[solid frigate]

well some

[shadow wind]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 204 HP / 148 SpD Groudon: 232-274 (115.4 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

😔

[mighty stump]

ur just bad gg ez

jk

[solid frigate]

i just beat one lmao

[bold geode]

It's time to fucking cook Tofu lol

[shadow wind]

Dude I can't even guaranteed live a draco if I get rid of grassy terrain 😭

[mighty stump]

Yall need to stop pinging me I’m making moves in secret

[craggy dagger]

i use stupid things-
though i found something that works well for me atm

[bold geode]

Fuck you ping pong mfer

[mighty stump]

Brings out Snorlax-Calydow again

[shadow wind]

Nice !

[bold geode]

That sounds bad

[shadow wind]

I played against a Snorlax today

[mighty stump]

Fissurelax will reign again

[bold geode]

Lmao

[molten oasis]

i hate incin

[mighty stump]

Guaranteed to beat CIR 30% of the time

[bold geode]

I been struggling already lol

[mighty stump]

Its just Reg G tho

[bold geode]

Yeah
Imma try some shit later

[solid frigate]

i'm fine currently

[bold geode]

Tofu help me find Wolfe lol
https://x.com/WolfeyGlick/status/1864063699876507855?t=P6Cc3mVyMJsPNf2WBtUsMA&s=19

Wolfey (@WolfeyGlick) on X

Find Wolfey

Twitter · Dec 3, 2024, 9:46 PM

[mighty stump]

Its right there

[solid frigate]

Joycon drift ruined my ass=

[balmy glen]

I beat that at worlds muhahaha

[mighty stump]

Ok but it wasn’y my unhinged set

…was it

[balmy glen]

but it was unhinged Ashton Cox

[bold geode]

Yeah if you look behind Mario in the bottom left corner here you can barely point him out

[balmy glen]

so it neutralizes

[mighty stump]

TRUE i did speak to him about it

[bold geode]

Oh

What did Cox run?

[mighty stump]

Ur mom

[bold geode]

I wish
Then I might actually not be shit at VGC

[balmy glen]

A tofu special

[solid frigate]

me when i accidentally clicked Moonblast on My Shifu

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866230603299946509/969796201966891018/A3172EF9-5632-4639-8FD3-568A03D9484A.gif

[bold geode]

Maybe I wouldn't be washed at VGC if Ashton Cox was railing my mom copium

[mighty stump]

That is a very weird sentence for a number of reasons

[molten oasis]

maybe wellspring isnt the play, like i cant handle incin CIR at all

[mighty stump]

Monke gains the duck chair buff

[molten oasis]

i feel like i lose immediately

[solid frigate]

i think like i lose almost right away

[mighty stump]

Milotic yw

[molten oasis]

no

[bold geode]

The fuck is that

[shadow wind]

Could go with Shifu

[solid frigate]

What sauce did you made Tofu-

[mighty stump]

Covert Cloak Urshifu

With Taunt

EzPz

yw

[solid frigate]

ok that makes sense at least

[mighty stump]

I haven’g cooked anything

[bold geode]

Also that Ashton Cox team is something actually lol

[mighty stump]

I’m working

[mighty stump]

Not Fissurelax so it’s wrong!!!!

[bold geode]

When you off next

[mighty stump]

Tomorrow ig

[solid frigate]

i'm just working on Pagos and Miraidon

Zacian might be next

[bold geode]

IT'S NOT FISSURE OR CURSE LAX SO I FUCKING DESPISE IT

[mighty stump]

Isnt this just regular Reg G

Like what is there to cook

[bold geode]

More of the same shit

[mighty stump]

Lol

[bold geode]

I'm just happy cuz less Sneasler

[solid frigate]

i'm literally using the same shit i have in Reg G wave 1

[bold geode]

Tofu: uses Sneasler

[solid frigate]

DO NOT-

[shadow wind]

Man I love Reg G because of no Sneasler

[molten oasis]

:/

[solid frigate]

actually no

Miraidon can only be poisoned if i am in E-terrain

[shadow wind]

Although the trade off of Sneasler for Calyrex is something

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/8de8673c10000432 this team just like, loses to CIR idk what to do

skill diffing is so difficult

with a mon thats reletively easy to pilot vs one that isnt, idk man

think im just doing bad

felt like i underestimated its damage too much

oh great every heat wave has burned me today cool

[shadow wind]

At least every play rough hasn't missed

[molten oasis]

i suck man, im done

i need a break i feel so robbed of a win and so lost on how to beat that stupid ice horse

i hate CIR it feels so unwinnable without luck

It also be nice if I could work on this with someone but I doubt that’ll happen

probably just need to learn the near impossible mu

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/e08afb4e895a0cba what does this need now

[cyan smelt]

Amoonguss

[balmy glen]

[cyan smelt]

Oh wait ogerpon

[molten oasis]

How I feel rn

[shadow wind]

Groudon vs Groudon is so funny to me

[craggy dagger]

mood

[shadow wind]

"Let's see who can miss more moves" type of game

[chrome knot]

for some reason my hand has random cuts on it

[craggy dagger]

what did you do :T

[chrome knot]

IDK

they just appeared one morning & then got worse the next

i took a pic at work like look

[craggy dagger]

owieee-
that looks like
did you cut yourself during work

[chrome knot]

no!!

they appear over night cx

cut myself in my sleep or somethngggg

[craggy dagger]

maybe your nails cut you during your sleep?

[chrome knot]

i dont rly have nails rn ;;

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256383350

Man I hate Calyrex

[solid frigate]

they have to nerf it lmao

[shadow wind]

Literally

[cyan smelt]

I don't understand why the reins aren't its held item like for necrozma and kyurem

[solid frigate]

uhhhh

Kyurem and Necrozma's Fusion stuff are not held items

the reason why Calyrex feels so appearent cuz like
1.Their Stat Spread Perfectly shows their job
2.Items felts more synergise with them over these 2
3.Calys have Broken ability which is 2 as one

[craggy dagger]

then i cant think of any other reason :(

[shadow wind]

And tera is way better on them imo

Like next gen one dark type and they'll get shut down pretty fast I feel

[mint void]

U have cat?

Or any pet?

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

C A T S

https://tenor.com/view/cat-happy-dance-cartoon-gif-9105753814336428544

[mint void]

Does that mean you don't know if u have pets?

[craggy dagger]

im not the one with the cuts lol

i don live with emma so i wouldnt know

[mint void]

The pets question above.

[mint void]

I fucked up the rows to quote.

[craggy dagger]

[mint void]

Rather, after further review...i might just have fed up even harder but eh

[cyan smelt]

you never know what tera caly-s is gonna be, fighting, fairy, normal or ghost

[shadow wind]

Real

[cyan smelt]

all the colours of the rainbow

[balmy glen]

Or grass

Or water…

[cyan smelt]

oh right those

[shadow wind]

I saw a water one today and then realized my opponent was stupid

I had Rillaboom ON THE FIELD

[cyan smelt]

should i run lash out on chien pao

[shadow wind]

I prefer Throat Chop

[cyan smelt]

so throat chop, sucker punch and icicle crash?

[shadow wind]

That’s what I run yup

Tera dark adamant

[cyan smelt]

i'm thinking i should keep stellar tera

[shadow wind]

I am greedy I know

[cyan smelt]

that dewgong gloom lunala team must be a nightmare to play

[shadow wind]

Against or with?

[cyan smelt]

against

[shadow wind]

It is

I went 15-2 and one of my losses was to that team

I also misplayed turn one horrendously but hey, I’m only human

[cyan smelt]

i have a 50% gxe, my team sucks

[shadow wind]

What team is it?

And also my main had a 56% GXE

[cyan smelt]

the one i used in reg g part one where i got to a decent elo with like 69.5% gxe, zama, torn, urshifu, rilla, chien pao and skeledirge

[shadow wind]

I almost have 200 games on it already

[craggy dagger]

throat chop onto a parting shot incin is funny

[shadow wind]

Mhm

Or hyper voice Ursa

[cyan smelt]

i should attempt to play some more reg g ig

[shadow wind]

“Throat chop has prevented X Pokémon from using certain moves”

Music to my ears

Well, no music to my ears I guess

[cyan smelt]

i really hope moody muk doesn't make a comeback

[shadow wind]

It won’t… probably…

I already miss enough Pblades 😭😭

[cyan smelt]

i'm watching a game right now with moody muk, co star flamigo and caly s

[shadow wind]

Ew

I saw one of those with Psych up Caly S

[cyan smelt]

toxic

[shadow wind]

Another reason I run haze on my Dragonite

Dragonite gotta be one of the most utility pokemon ever

Haze
Twave
Encore
Tailwind
Espeed

It just has it all

[cyan smelt]

it's good for sure

[shadow wind]

Multihit moves too

I just like him for Paonite

[cyan smelt]

i got ladder anxiety atm

[serene gazelle]

this is a noobie question, but is it faster to breed pokemon or use bottlecaps and mints, or mix of both for competitive? I'm wondering what most people do

[knotty mirage]

Just use bottle caps and mints

[serene gazelle]

Oh I see, thanks

[cyan smelt]

i kinda want to keep sacred sword on chien pao

[shadow wind]

It is very good on him

I personally didn’t find enough use for it

[cyan smelt]

I'm really demotivated to ladder atm

[mint void]

Muk gets moody? Which one? I love muk

[mint void]

U kinda have to breed for a perfect special attacker

They ideally want 0 atk ivs

[cyan smelt]

alolan muk gets power of alchemy and smeargle gets moody

[serene gazelle]

oh why is that? I thought all stats can have perfect ivs unlike evs

[mint void]

@serene gazelle a special attacker doesnt use its attack stat.
Foul play is an attack run by some eviolite or support Pokémon. It calcs damage based of off your own attack stat.
Having minimal atk ivs and a minus attack nature reduces the damage taken from Foulplay

Its just an optimisation and not necessary if you dont want to.

@serene gazelle

[serene gazelle]

ohhh I see, makes sense

[mint void]

Same for trick room attackers but here its with their speed stat.

To achieve 0 ivs in a specific stat u need to have 1 mon with 0 speed ivs or 0 atk ivs, ideally ditto

Then hand over a corresponding band for the stat.

Its more relevant for TR attackerrs than special attacker

[serene gazelle]

welp, I don't even have a perfect iv ditto yet so

I'll probably worry about that later down the line haha

[mint void]

I have a Japanese one luckily :)

Also gives better shiny odds

Just flexing

[serene gazelle]

gimme :(

[cyan smelt]

why is raging bolt so bulky

[mint void]

Av?

590 bst too

Lotta stats to spread

[torn parrot]

I’m depressed

[cyan smelt]

why

[cyan smelt]

also why does electro drift do so much to a resist

[mint void]

Cause miraidon

STAB,Terrain boost, Hadron engine boost

[cyan smelt]

even not in terrain

[mint void]

Well womp womp

[cyan smelt]

it did like 80% to rockpon in a game i was watching

[mint void]

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ogerpon-Cornerstone: 91-108 (58.7 - 69.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

No bulk ogerpon vs specs miraidon off terrain ...

And Tera

No tera its barely above 50% hugh rolling

[cyan smelt]

oh well with tera that makes sense

[mighty stump]

Just be a ground type

Onv

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

https://x.com/Extralongdokkan/status/1863764766814257610?t=dnuHEwkFhI948Zy22gM0zA&s=19

Extra (@Extralongdokkan) on X

Twitter · Dec 3, 2024, 1:58 AM

[plain drum]

[chrome knot]

theyre too baby to do this sort of thing

[mint void]

idk they do me gangster

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[mint void]

Kinda late but finna have a reg H team I like
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2256798537-q61i1bjlu6yk1i729ws2ium702xubt4pw

[halcyon comet]

You guys excited for gc3

[next stump]

whatever the opposite of excited is

[bold geode]

Anyone got a good Booster Bolt set I can use?

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[bold geode]

Tryna use like Wolfe's Worlds team lol

[next stump]

I was running max speed booster bolt for a while to close Reg G

I think 100+ SpA is the first bump you hit also?

so Id do that + 252SPE + rest in bulk

[bold geode]

Ah ok

Just gonna do HP dump for now

[next stump]

I found myself in a lot of scenarios where having the slower bolt in the mirror was terrible

and especially if you’re running booster, just rely on either switches or tera to play defensively

[torn parrot]

It’s tomorow right

[chrome knot]

whats tomorrow

[bold geode]

Emma I'm mid with CSR

[chrome knot]

balance is hard

[bold geode]

I main that shit, idk why I'm having such trouble lol

Yeah no I'm horrible with CSR I can't keep using that lol

[torn parrot]

gc

may or may not play

[chrome knot]

oohhh

[bold geode]

Idk wtf imma play for G lol
CSR feels way too reliant on tera tbh

[torn parrot]

wait

this is reg G?

nvm i locked in a reg H team not gonna play

[next stump]

the GC is reg H

[torn parrot]

oh nice thanks

[bold geode]

The GC is H

Just talking about Reg G and all the legendaries you hate yay

Actually kind of makes me sad that I'm failing
Was so happy to go back just to have no restricted click

[torn parrot]

yeah were back 😔

i made the most out of H tho

im workin on somethin fun with my friend rn with pawmot reviving calyrex

i find it fun to build off a fun little concept for G, rather than make a normal team
if i wanted to make a normal team, its most likely been solved by now so id just take someone else's

[next stump]

sick merch

[chrome knot]

i buying hat off a fwen

[tranquil kraken]

omg i love that

shame I can't get it

[solid frigate]

European International?

[next stump]

yes

[solid frigate]

i might get it hopefully

[next stump]

that would be awesome

[solid frigate]

yea

[tranquil kraken]

do regionals get merch on site or no?

[next stump]

if you register as a player, you get a playmat and a stamped promo card

there’s also usually like 5-6 merchant booths there from local store owners

[tranquil kraken]

one things for certain, I'm not playing

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256918520-qzkk67y38nimsy0zfocxqybu8dtafpspw

3 draco meteor duds 😭

[strange fjord]

at least the draco weren't misses, no rng involved

[craggy dagger]

HAT AND PIN
they’re all adorable

[shadow wind]

Exactly

All skill based

Man elo is scarce

I won 4 battles in a row and got 51 elo

That's like as much as you get from one game at 1000

[rustic mountain]

played a game of reg h and it felt amazing

tbf i also need to start using a better reg g team

[chrome knot]

finally did this to win a game

[molten oasis]

Heaven vs Hell

[rustic mountain]

frfr

reg g is the pits

(its not really that bad)

[molten oasis]

Yea I’ve come to appreciate H so much more after just, struggling lol

(I still prefer G but I treated H too harshly)

[rustic mountain]

fair

atleast u can realize that

[molten oasis]

yea, I need to play more is what I’m noticing

Too much time in the builder

[rustic mountain]

yes i agree

[strange fjord]

feel like that everyone's response after every reg that just passed

[foggy lodge]

I don't think i treated reg H harshly i still think it's bad

I just need to become betterrrr

[torn parrot]

byabyabya

[foggy lodge]

I've been losing to Pagos CM a lot and i need to just like

Play better lol

[strange fjord]

i havent ran into a single tortle mirror match

maybe i havent played enough

[foggy lodge]

you play Pagos?

[strange fjord]

ye

[foggy lodge]

how has the Miraidon MU been to you?

[torn parrot]

tortle is a hella scary mon

guys i miss getting dire clawed

it feels like yesterday

becuse it was 2 days ago

[strange fjord]

mostly fine. My solution to Miraidon is my Rhydon

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[strange fjord]

which restricted are you running?

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon lol

Just Luca Ceribelli's team

[golden cedar]

Do we think reuniclus is viable in reg h?

[torn parrot]

yes

sort of

[golden cedar]

Fire

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 579: Reuniclus

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Overcoat, Magic Guard, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/65/75/125/85/30

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

[golden cedar]

Hmm

[foggy lodge]

uhhh its not that bad

[strange fjord]

think these two are my only miraidon matches this new reg that i have saved
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2255608357-gypdkby2ay1qtekv8o18xek0f6d9qy3pw?p2

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2255604645?p2

both of them reaaaaallly not doing too well

[foggy lodge]

But i don't find a reason to play it outside of psyspam and in psyspam there are better exp force users

[golden cedar]

Bro he’s jelly, big fan

[foggy lodge]

Exeguttor/Armarouge

[golden cedar]

Is exegcuttor good?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Role compression of sleep powder+ exp force + clorophyll

[golden cedar]

So we’re in the shadow world

Not even running harvest too? Makes sense honestly but it’s just always how I think of the mon

[shadow wind]

Bazinga !

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256957554

KORAIDON MU IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE

[balmy glen]

why did he just never protect

[solid frigate]

idek

even then Chi Yu is still faster than -1 Speed Korai

and yes its the same Scarf Chi yu

[shadow wind]

Ok this Miraidon pandemic is getting a bit out of hand

[solid frigate]

you think?

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256955513-lm6y7nlt5j8hpg88yty3m1pwvc76or1pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256955562-jdhj8cl4w55hjwr63r12iqlrn89tjpdpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256957725-2yjpxt99zpph77widvqjm7m5dlvtze9pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256959152-f4uj044rb5uddp3papo33wibpdi563kpw

All in a row, all against the same gosh darn team

[solid frigate]

it won worlds of course people are gonna use it

have we not learnt from Indianapolis

[shadow wind]

Groudon eating !!!!

[solid frigate]

did nobody lead Hearth-

[shadow wind]

I mean they tried

[solid frigate]

Hearth Hands is a solid lead despite Hands just fucking dies to Pblades

[shadow wind]

The last game

They led Oger and Whims

[solid frigate]

i might need to do like Make sure HEarth is faster than both Groudon and Kyogre

[solid frigate]

huh

[shadow wind]

So they did use the lead you would do

And still couldn’t topple the behemoth

[solid frigate]

DUDE ITS CLOAK WHIMS AND HEARTH

SPIKY SHIELD THAT MF-

why this is tormenting me

[shadow wind]

Ain’t no one know the Groudon MU

[solid frigate]

there is a reason why i am Sash Whims

[solid frigate]

at least i know-

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256963429
im so confused

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 328: Trapinch

Type

Ground

Abilities

Hyper Cutter, Arena Trap, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

45/100/45/45/45/10

Total

290

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

wh
100 atk

[shadow wind]

Elektriktoad is my goat

[solid frigate]

Terapagos-Terastal @ Power Herb
Ability: Tera Shell
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 156 SpA / 44 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Meteor Beam
• Earth Power
• Protect

Time to revisit the first Pagos set i made during reg G

[mighty stump]

Needs more damage

smh

[molten oasis]

Morning, how’s life

[mighty stump]

Well I just did a house call to euthanise an old dog

[spiral ridge]

:(

[molten oasis]

that’s a bummer

[mighty stump]

I realise i left the house with blood on my hand literally i forgot to wash it off in my awkward post-euthanasia leave

[molten oasis]

So you had to go back to work/home with a bloody hand?

[mighty stump]

At least he’s in a better place

[mighty stump]

Well I’m going to the supermarket with it so I’ll pick up wet wipes lol

[molten oasis]

Valid lol

[solid frigate]

let me guess

Calm Mind+Meteor Beam?

[molten oasis]

And may he rest in peace

calm mind meteor beam is crazy

[mighty stump]

Well I did CM but im more meaning 196+ rather than 156

252/36 HP SpDef CIR becomes a more favourable roll

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/d8ecef0ca6796770 what y’all think?

[solid frigate]

ah ok

[molten oasis]

Noted for the time I try Pagos

[solid frigate]

(Tbf i did cm for the entire Wave 1)

[mighty stump]

You have bulk up scarf gapdos

[molten oasis]

It’s bulk up?

How the fuck lmao

It’s supposed to be brave bird, regardless does it look ok?

[mighty stump]

No Urshifu?

[molten oasis]

do I need it?

Incin supposed to be ghost as well

[mighty stump]

Just wondering, not necessarily. Your main thing into opposing HO is gonna have to center around Redirection + your priority users

[solid frigate]

ah yes Bulk up Scarf Gapdos the New Meta(Tbf if it has Trick i would actually think it would work lmao)

[molten oasis]

Is this team hyper offense?

[foggy lodge]

i still don't get why Gapdos

[molten oasis]

I like it

Ik shifus better

I like gapdos

I can just go goggles shifu and have it be more balance ig

[solid frigate]

Zama MU is more better

and Thundy kick

[molten oasis]

idk should I just shifu? Im working on gapdos with Nova

[foggy lodge]

i think shifu is better in like everything

[solid frigate]

i might see if Monke has new Pagos sauce if he is trying Pagos

[molten oasis]

Ok but it’s shifu and also isn’t good into rillaboom

[foggy lodge]

yeah anti intimidate to scare Inci

[molten oasis]

Better into zama

[foggy lodge]

go dark to work into the Calys lol

And also that what's your Zama match up

[molten oasis]

no water one just better

[molten oasis]

Gapdos

[bold geode]

Haven't touched it yet lmao

[foggy lodge]

Tera grass Zama kinda cooks

[bold geode]

Might I try the sauce?

[molten oasis]

So gapdos sucks ok then

[bold geode]

No you

[solid frigate]

I'm finding any sauce cuz i am revisiting PHerb Pagos

[bold geode]

I have no new memes
I must collect

[molten oasis]

nvm I don’t feel like trying the gapdos if I just get cooked by zama and cir

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[bold geode]

Once again
How you get cooked by Zam

[molten oasis]

Apparently Tera grass zama is a loss

[bold geode]

?

[solid frigate]

not really

[foggy lodge]

252+ Atk Zapdos-Galar Thunderous Kick vs. +1 196 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 66-80 (34.3 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[bold geode]

Brave Bird?

[solid frigate]

You have brave bird dumbass-

[foggy lodge]

😭

With sword of ruin it would be okay

[bold geode]

Damn son

[molten oasis]

That’s why Maxi just proving it’s mid

So why try we just shifu because shifu and shifu only

[bold geode]

Yeah chief that might actually be bad LOL

[molten oasis]

Shifu shifu shifu

[bold geode]

Kung Fu fighting

[molten oasis]

Only bears

[solid frigate]

also does Zama run this bulk anymore-

[molten oasis]

Birds suck bears rule

[foggy lodge]

I think this Zama is more fragile than usual Zamas lol

[molten oasis]

I regret asking nova cna have fun with the gapdos ig

[solid frigate]

ya know what imma try that lol

[bold geode]

Ayo Maxi send me the sauce homie

[foggy lodge]

wait what

What sauce i forgot

[bold geode]

What you running ese

[solid frigate]

Miraidon Worlds Team?

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/4409744f3dd048a1

[solid frigate]

or is it scotty

[foggy lodge]

now im between the Miraidon or Michael's Zama

[spiral ridge]

Wh

[foggy lodge]

im just going to comfort diff tbh

[bold geode]

Oh you running that shit lol
Is that your spreads or

[foggy lodge]

yes i made the spreads

Been playing that team since like june so

[torn parrot]

I hate that every battle lasts 2 turns in reg G

[bold geode]

?
I deadass have many turn games in G

[foggy lodge]

i mean depends on match up

[bold geode]

You just getting fucked lol

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon mirror last 4 turns tbh

[bold geode]

Or maybe I am
Who knows

[balmy glen]

My longest vgc game came from reg g lol

[rustic mountain]

which was

🤨

finally got 1400 w/ this mid team

now to use a real reg g team when i return

[torn parrot]

im rank 16 but

im hating every minute of it

[balmy glen]

Vs a Weezing Dozo team

Went to 50 turns

:p

The anti Zama teams are something else

[torn parrot]

i like whimsi

she's a good bitch

[balmy glen]

[rustic mountain]

jfc

i think ive had some 30-40 turn dozo games but idt i reached 50

[torn parrot]

how the hell

my games like

2 seconds

i gues sits just cus im playing hyper offense

[rustic mountain]

same

ive had some 10+ turns but mostly 5-7

[torn parrot]

howd your mons live long enough for 30 turns

[molten oasis]

Huh???

[rustic mountain]

fake out + intimidate + resists

[molten oasis]

Tf you mean good bitch lol

[rustic mountain]

u should know maya jus b sayin shit

[cyan smelt]

Don't swear

[torn parrot]

she does good bitch work

[torn parrot]

ah that'll do it

[bold geode]

Fuck shit bitch titty

[molten oasis]

You’re right lol

[torn parrot]

weeewooo rank 10

i shoudlnt paly anymore tho

[rustic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/weewoo-patrick-star-siren-gif-15363908

[cyan smelt]

I think I should ladder some more

[torn parrot]

baaaaa

[molten oasis]

why am i losing to skill swap shenanigans

i hate this, fkcn torture, stupid calyrex

[strange fjord]

sheep moment

[atomic portal]

cock a doodle doo

[molten oasis]

shit sucks, stuff i use works for everyone else

but then i cant figure it out, so cool

Looks like I should explore the other restricteds I find boring to play and maybe find some form of enjoyment

[strange fjord]

even though reg g came out before, feel like i still need some time to adjust to the "new" regulation

old team of mine still works, but wanna try something new

[torn parrot]

this motherfucker is either really bored af or has something to prove

[cyan smelt]

What's his team even

[cyan smelt]

Weird team

[balmy glen]

lmao

Bo1 gaming

[knotty mirage]

[torn parrot]

To be cringe is to be free

[plain drum]

Real

[cyan smelt]

watching a leech seed caly i with coaching support now

lunar blessing cresselia too, smart

[knotty mirage]

Damn hybrid stall caly i that's something

[cyan smelt]

man it's impossible to tell if caly i is water or fire

[chrome knot]

pin it and youll find out pretty quick

[cyan smelt]

you were right

[mighty stump]

I cooked the most standard shit

[dull ibex]

vc?

[dull ibex]

👀

[real prairie]

does anyone have the top usage from the last Reg G, im trying to work out what i need to be able to counter

[torn parrot]

It’s crazy the shit that ting lu can live

[knotty mirage]

I think it's urshifu incin farigiraf tornadus

And for the restricted calyrex just calyrex

[real prairie]

do we not have a top 10 or whatever it is from the last Reg G tounry?

TBH one of my biggest issues atm has been bloody RIlla

[mighty stump]

Just scroll through LabMaus, VGCData, or Pikalytics witha Reg G setting

You can also just go on Limitless

[real prairie]

Cheers

Across the entirety of my team, what are 5 must have supporting moves you think are a necessity ?

npo maybe:

1. Taunt
2. Haze/Clear Smong
3. TR/TW
4. Follow me/rage powder
5. Weather control

[knotty mirage]

Are you using miraidon as your restricted ?

[real prairie]

Kyogre

[mighty stump]

I mean Weather Control is case dependant

So is Taunt/Haze

[knotty mirage]

Maybe you can try use defensive tera and slot ice beam to deal with rilla at least

[mighty stump]

At the very least Ogre teams need Redirection + Speed Control.

[mighty stump]

That shouldn't be the main answer though.

Cause that's utilising quite a few resources for something you're never OHKOing

You do need Ice Beam for Raging Bolt irregardless

[knotty mirage]

Fair enough

[mighty stump]

First game back we beating Gravity Sun memes

[real prairie]

yeah, thinking i need to drop the Scarf from it to allow it to use coverage moves more freely

[real prairie]

Ofc, but you'd expect to have it to cover your bases no? You ultimately need a team that could potentialy beat anything

[mighty stump]

That will just end up depending on what your lines will look like.

[torn parrot]

i also have a line

https://tenor.com/view/draw-line-draw-line-cotpul-sharpie-gif-18560618

[chrome knot]

you are 300% a vibes player

[chrome knot]

not as standard as me im literally using caly s clef

[mighty stump]

me too

[balmy glen]

I am an evolved vibes player

[chrome knot]

meanwhile i have silly document for team

[mighty stump]

Covert Cloak Taunt Urshifu going hard rn

[chrome knot]

you said u made a standard team

[mighty stump]

Yea

Standard for Tofu

What do you mean

[mighty stump]

@chrome knot hates my teams

[spiral ridge]

At least it’s hate and not disgust like my teams

[mighty stump]

I got Fissured out of a winning position twice in a row

LOL

[timber falcon]

evs for booster flutter mane?

[mighty stump]

252 HP 252 Speed

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[feral wraith]

[dense latch]

better than my terapagos mu lines

[molten oasis]

u serious?

[chrome knot]

bwa

[solid frigate]

FINALLY TAUNT SHIFU REPRESENTATION

[molten oasis]

I was all over taunt shifu end of reg g wdym lol

[solid frigate]

but with Cloak?

[molten oasis]

i did goggles

[solid frigate]

exactly

[shut ginkgo]

Hi are there are checkpoints in ranked battles?

[next stump]

what do you mean?

[atomic portal]

if youre talking about like the tiers from pokeball to master, u cant drop out of a tier once u hit it (pokeball, great, ultra)

[shut ginkgo]

Okay gotcha

Thanks. Wanted to try out some new teams in master ball but didn’t want to drop out of it

[crude whale]

Hey fellow trainers big favor to ask especially since you don’t know me, I need help finishing my team for the grand challenge, 3 mons need some moves thats all, thing is only have an hour to register the team and am driving home from work so doubt can get materials for the moves in time, appreciate any help!

[mint void]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2257576997
After You Clef + Astralbarage Spam

[chrome knot]

idk why u wouldnt just

nasty plot
nasty plot
nasty plot

[craggy dagger]

cuz throat chop on a scarf

[chrome knot]

what

[next stump]

wow I got hella outplayed by my opponent on turn one of a GC game

and then he DC’d

RIP

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 35: Clefairy

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Magic Guard, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/45/48/60/65/35

Total

323

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

How tf did Breloom underspeed Clefairy

[cyan smelt]

Iron ball?

Lagging tail?

[foggy lodge]

Maybe?

Power band i think was used with Urshifu in CIR teams

[tiny karma]

Item: Power Band

Holder's Speed is halved. The Klutz Ability does not ignore this effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[ivory dust]

anybody know of a good quaquaval team?

[cyan smelt]

Quaquaval is Miraidon, flutter and bolt food

[foggy lodge]

There was one at a global challenge

Let me search it

[ivory dust]

ive looked it up on youtube and safari but smogon wont load on my computer for some reason and im kinda slow

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/wrgswVdty8E?si=bXKK-TEW2vWAvyF1

[ivory dust]

also a casual so im by no means a team builder of any sort, me and a buddy are doing a playthrough and battling after every gym so i just wanna beat him

[cyan smelt]

I didn't realise there's a gc team with it that's kinda cool

[foggy lodge]

It was grand challenge my bad but yeh you get the point

[ivory dust]

thanks bro

how do i get a rillaboom?

[next stump]

you can catch grookey in the DLC area

otherwise you’re having to trade/transfer from another game

[bold geode]

I caught Grookey in a store

[molten oasis]

i got a better reason for gapdos, figured zac just kinda struggles with rilla shifu incin teams in general, FO cycling ontop of intim hurts it, and gapdos is good into all of them

[cyan smelt]

I want that grookey plush

[bold geode]

No mine

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna order grookey and paldea starters for my next plushes

[bold geode]

Grookey plushies are out of stock in Pokemon Center, I got this one from some like
Nerd shop in a mall
Was like $40 which I fucking hated but the tag had Japanese
For all I know it could be fucking bootleg but it looks good so

[cyan smelt]

I'll get it from plaza Japan or something

[craggy dagger]

[torn parrot]

I played too much mons today

My brain is mush

[cyan smelt]

i should ladder some more

[torn parrot]

No rush

[cyan smelt]

funny how with guard dog, defiant mons, covert cloak and clear amulet, incin is still near the top of most used mons

[knotty mirage]

All of those thing can only be applied to one or two mon so it's not that big of a deal for incin

[strange fjord]

knock off also negates the items, so you can parting shot and fake out intimidate later.

[cyan smelt]

That's if hhp doesn't ko you first

[strange fjord]

incin bulky so possibly

[cyan smelt]

A well positioned caly s or ice is hard to take out

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna do my GC runs after having some drinks for my wife's bday

Since ladder is usually a drunken mess, I'll be a mess too! XD

I bought her a faceted crystal lamp

[molten oasis]

Yea, I hate incin lol

[lofty tartan]

That's a shame. He got you a going away present.

[molten oasis]

I hate it cuz I play Zac, like I don’t mind it as much when I play something else

[lofty tartan]

Lmao. I'm just kidding. It's 4:15am so I'm just riding out the last 45 of my shift

[molten oasis]

Zac has such a difficult time with it lol

[molten oasis]

Valid, good luck

[lofty tartan]

But I am truly gonna GC run drunk lmao

[molten oasis]

lol sounds fun

[lofty tartan]

I've been over thinking my turn zero so I'm gonna get all loosey goosey

It should be fun. I'll be on stream so you can swing in and poke fun at me.

[molten oasis]

If I’m awake sure

[lofty tartan]

It'll be at night. Not super late or anything.

But I do usually go til the wee hours of the morning.

[molten oasis]

Gotcha, I’ll see if I can show

[lofty tartan]

Yeah no doubt duder. I have the link posted in my office.

Should be a fun/stupid time as I smash my face against CTS madness with an OTS team

[cyan smelt]

Why doesn't okidogi learn coaching

[lofty tartan]

I dunno. He's not super fast anyway so he's mostly the target.

He's got some considerable bulk with AV. I ran him late Reg G like that.

[cyan smelt]

Upper hand can ohko an incin

[lofty tartan]

It can.

But you need a lot of things to go right for it to work

I ran Tera flying ice punch. It dodges Lando and ohko's 🤷

[cyan smelt]

Neat

[lofty tartan]

We like Okidogi here

Best of the 3

[cyan smelt]

Bulk up drain punch also seems good

[molten oasis]

Okidogi also should have gotten defiant

Guard dog makes sense, but I think would have been better with defiant

[lofty tartan]

Yeah making a weaker Defiant to have a flavorful ability is mid-tier

[molten oasis]

Fs

[lofty tartan]

Defiant would've made Okidogi shine like a star

[cyan smelt]

The problem with guard dog is you can lose the boost with a parting shot

[lofty tartan]

Yup

If it was a power level thing it's a thin argument considering last gen's absurdities lmfao

But it is what it is, I guess.

Mega Xerneas and Mega Yveltal to the rescue

[molten oasis]

Fuck no lol

[lofty tartan]

watch it happen

MEGA ZYGARDE

BRAAAAAAAHHHH

[cyan smelt]

Mega incin to save everything

[lofty tartan]

I love Zygarde. He's a Gundam

[molten oasis]

True lol

[lofty tartan]

One of the coolest pokemon designs eveeeerrrrr

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-zygarde-gif-11033852

Totally built like Gundam lol

[cyan smelt]

Still got PTSD from DAs with that thing and power construct triggering

[foggy lodge]

True

Okidogi is in the builder

Tbh when i saw the DLC trailer i thought Okidogi was going to be super good because it's kinda similar to Inci😭

[cyan smelt]

Is it ever worth running knock off on rilla?

[real prairie]

how fast is booster energy max speed Flutter?

im being outsped as a max speed, swift swim, tailwind ludicolo which just feels nuts

[cyan smelt]

Timid max speed hits 307

But with tailwind it's 614

[next stump]

i’ve seen it now and again

it’s not bad over something like high horsepower

[cyan smelt]

I'm tossing up between U turn and high horsepower, would be nice to have something to hit caly s with

I mean replacing hhp with U turn or knock off

[next stump]

what’s the rest of your team? are there easier places to fit dark or ghost moves

[cyan smelt]

I could run dark pulse or foul play on torn but I'd have to give up taunt, I'm running Urshifu water, rilla, torn, Zama, skeledirge and chien pao

I suppose throat chop is fine

I think I'd seriously struggle against that caly s weezing team

[solid frigate]

ah no wonder why i saw people run Dark Pulse Torn.

[solid frigate]

also Chien Pao already deals with CSR- just run Sash

also Entei/Incineroar is literally right there

[cyan smelt]

I do run sash pao

[knotty mirage]

Huh tornadus can learn dark pulse good too know

[solid frigate]

also Incin and Entei are just strictly better than skele

Entei has Snarl as well

[cyan smelt]

Skele ignores chilling neigh boosts and can wisp

[solid frigate]

Incin Literally also has Wisp

AND knock off

AND PARTING SHOT

And it has Fake out so you can fake out cycle stuff

[cyan smelt]

Incin can get close combated or body pressed

[solid frigate]

dude you have Tera

[cyan smelt]

Rather not burn tera

[solid frigate]

then just will-o-wisp it

easy enough

i still run either entei or incin cuz its utility would be good on it

[chrome knot]

is a ghost type

[cyan smelt]

I'll try entei

[solid frigate]

also Incin Rocky Helm Tera Water is Goated

[real prairie]

So really shouldn't be outspeeding me outside of TW.... interesting

i dont think anyway, let me redo the math lol

Ludicolo speed in TW + Rain should be 488 i think

[cyan smelt]

Looks like pelipper caly I is back

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[solid frigate]

omg someone in the tram i am in playing Terapagos’s Theme So fucking loud PLS STOP

[chrome knot]

t r a m

[bold geode]

Quit outing yourself

[solid frigate]

im not even watching YT at that time lol

i play Sonic Music while on public Transport

[bold geode]

Quit outing yourself

[solid frigate]

nuh uh

[bold geode]

Yuh Huh

[solid frigate]

nuh uh

[bold geode]

YUH HUH

[solid frigate]

NUH UH

[chrome knot]

and then you both kiss

[bold geode]

Calm down Professor X

[solid frigate]

shut-

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

hai nova

[old jay]

Im looking to get into the competitive scene - any recommendations on how to get started?

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[bold geode]

So first off it's a bit of an information game, we have many resources in pins to help you catch up. What I would recommend is to probably use rental teams to start to be able to learn the game before making some wacky teams or whatever. Also don't get discouraged if you're bad right away, happens to all of us lol

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by dollarmonke. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[old jay]

Aaaa tysm! :D

Literally love the pokemon community, so welcoming to new players. Ur awesome

[bold geode]

No problem, always happy to show people the ways of competitive. It's a little hard at first but once you get it it's so much fun

[old jay]

I love reading and learning 🗣️ 🔥

[chrome knot]

finding a yapper in the wild

[bold geode]

Emma I found something dangerous

I'm also a bit of a yapper

[chrome knot]

WTF GIMME THAT

[bold geode]

I'm poking a straw straight thru that bitch

[merry summit]

Holy shit thats so much cpatisun

ive mever seen it out of the baggies 😭

[bold geode]

Him sits

(He fell off twice, bit too big )

[chrome knot]

-8ball will toronto be successful🥺

[gentle crag]

will toronto be successful🥺
:8ball: Cannot predict now

[chrome knot]

-8ball will toronto be successful🥺

[gentle crag]

will toronto be successful🥺
:8ball: Reply hazy try again

[chrome knot]

pls work

-8ball will toronto be successful🥺

[gentle crag]

will toronto be successful🥺
:8ball: Yes

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-suck-kirby-vacuum-cute-nintendo-gif-16544038

[bold geode]

-8ball is Emma's competition cooked

[gentle crag]

is Emma's competition cooked
:8ball: Outlook good

[bold geode]

Pog

[chrome knot]

ehehehe

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

good morning novaaa

[torn parrot]

Caprisun outside of bag is cursed

[bold geode]

I still don't care
The straw is going straight thru it, mark my words

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/16c2f3aa8c6ce8e3 how is it looking?

[chrome knot]

kyogre and 5 guys

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/21ba6af754bbcc5f
There anything stopping me from just straight up doing this? (Might replace Gleam with Wide Guard)

[torn parrot]

you can probably replace one of the darkies for torn

[timber falcon]

scarf and the rest tr

[chrome knot]

the fact that lunala is mid

[bold geode]

?

[timber falcon]

yeah i was wondering if i should go for the tw or not

[chrome knot]

you almost mono lose to iron hands dawg

[timber falcon]

almost

[chrome knot]

team composition alone almost, in gameplay yes

[timber falcon]

but yeah i do need tweaks dont i

made the team in3 min anyway

but i so think at this point scarf is the best way for me to use kyogre

[chrome knot]

idk u jus get cooked by standard caly s balance

or miraidon

[timber falcon]

what if scarf chi yu

[torn parrot]

i genuinely beleive lunala is better than porygon

[timber falcon]

in this meta isnt that debatble

[torn parrot]

they are both debatable in this meta

[timber falcon]

for tr role id rather have porygon have my back though

[chrome knot]

4x weak to dark & ghost is kinda scary

[timber falcon]

mhm

[chrome knot]

ability is kinda what would sell lunala for me

[torn parrot]

if your going trick room your probably not gonna take either

[craggy dagger]

hi

[torn parrot]

oh wait

[chrome knot]

but if u want comparable id do p2&cir

[torn parrot]

when i was thinking of lunala

i was thinking of the duck\

lol

i was comparing the two ducks

cresselia mb

[timber falcon]

two ducks

[bold geode]

Yeah CSR does good damage but I hate that it basically got a Tera in front of everything

But I'm sorta interested in Shadow Shield too

[torn parrot]

i think cress is better than porygon imo

[bold geode]

Then again idk if the Meteor Beam or CM set better

[timber falcon]

ive used lunala b4, im no professional but yeah its a tera hog, pair it with mon that can hold its own though and things look pretty good.

[chrome knot]

i think thats normal opinion depending on the format

reg f id choose p2 but reg g i think id want lunar blessing spam

[timber falcon]

i saw jigglypuff heal pulse once

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 39: Jigglypuff

Types

Normal/Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Competitive, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/45/20/45/25/20

Total

270

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

idk if thats a problem tho no? thats kinda jus single restricted format unfortunately

if u cant hit csr rn imma plot up 80 times

[bold geode]

Well yeah but other restricted I feel I can leave naked every now and then
Then with CSR if there's a singular fucking Dark type it's like God gotta tera or I just get nuked

I just thought hey maybe pair it with Trick Room stuff
Oh Dark and Normal good for CSR, Incin Ursa lmao

[chrome knot]

dark csr + clefairy friend

[torn parrot]

i got my handed to me by this multiple times https://pokepast.es/660f5771ee4777c8

🐇

[chrome knot]

not even gonna ask

[timber falcon]

this right here

dont EVER let them get that puff onto the field with tr

[torn parrot]

D:

i beat them one time

[timber falcon]

heal pulse spame untill ur down to two mons, then the perish song

[chrome knot]

or like team to beat is gonna be csr weezing dozo @bold geode

[timber falcon]

luckily the team isnt taunt proof

[torn parrot]

oh yeah wezing dozo calyrex is pretty annoying

[bold geode]

Don't fuckin remind me......

I hate that team so much

[chrome knot]

might run it tbh so i can finish out my cup bfls

got 83pts leftover on them

[bold geode]

I'll support it on the one condition that you hold the original creator of it hostage

[torn parrot]

i want luncgh

[craggy dagger]

whats happening-

[chrome knot]

im playing dozo

[timber falcon]

speaking of dozo, i cant seem to get hyogre past it

instead i give it a buff, what could a kyogre team have that helps with dozo?

[chrome knot]

rillaboom

raging bolt

[timber falcon]

always tera grass

tried those guys

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tera poison lando i

[timber falcon]

merci beaucoup

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[torn parrot]

iv been playing

calyrex shadow pawmot

cus its a fun idea

[chrome knot]

shockingggg

[torn parrot]

ill kill you

https://tenor.com/view/anime-smash-lesbian-punch-wall-gif-4790446

[chrome knot]

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kuseoks-ot7peggers-pgc-peggersgc-ot7pegger-gif-19518997

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-lesbian-eyebrow-raise-question-hmmm-gif-13217654194543056125

its okay to be a gimmick girllll

[torn parrot]

yay

thank you

[timber raptor]

this chat seems very on topic lmao

[chrome knot]

it is?

[timber raptor]

Might be, all that was on my screen was the gifs, so while only being a few messages, I couldn't see any text.

[chrome knot]

:HibikiShrug:

:HibikiShrug:

??? where did it go

[timber raptor]

I wanted to find out details about single vs double vs multi battle modes, but I don't know where to ask. Just trying to set up a casual battle with a friend, but I don't know the different rule sets, how big the teams are etc.

[torn parrot]

what are exactly the rules with emojis in messages

only 2 emojis allowed?

it feels so random what i can add

[bold geode]

@chrome knot I'm running CM Lunala, fuck it we ball

[bold geode]

Nvm I lied we trying both

[strange fjord]

I think I can add any amount silly , wacky to a message . i think there's only a problem when doing it on mobile

[torn parrot]

yeah that must e it

[spiral ridge]

❌

Mobile works

[tribal garnet]

Would TWave or Knock off be better for Tinkaton? Want to make it a support

[shadow wind]

Depends on the team

[tribal garnet]

Currently running Fake Out,Helping Hand and Gigaton Hammer but I'm stuck on which one for the last move. Thinking also Protect

I'll be having Gholdengo on the team. Thinking of Mold Breaker HH him for Make it Rain

I'll mainly use her for doubles tbh

[shadow wind]

Twave is better for speed control but knock off could catch Calyrexes off guard

[tribal garnet]

Hmmm yeah I'll probably stuck to TWave then

[atomic portal]

if reg g go with feint

if reg h go play rough otherwise its super easy to play around gigaton

tink has a lot of great status but fitting as much as u can in one makes it extremely awkward