competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

you use ray wdym

[bold geode]

Yeah I prefer eating crayons dumbass

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[foggy lodge]

I don't like scarf shifu that much tbh

[molten oasis]

ig i like glue

[bold geode]

Grape crayon yummy

[foggy lodge]

I used mystic water taunt in early reg G

Probably my favorite set

[molten oasis]

goggles taunt, fuck you amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

i loved bulky mystic water in swsh for series 10 and spikemuth

[chrome knot]

im on the wolfe 2024 arc where he doesn’t use bad mons lmfao im so dialled in to actually improving this szn

[bold geode]

Well damn
I guess anyone got a bulky Covert Cloak Peli?

[rustic mountain]

jus feels kinda meh for sv mostly, i like sash or scarf anything else im weary on even the goggles ones that did well at worlds 2023

[molten oasis]

Poseidon (Pelipper) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 4 SpA / 140 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Weather Ball
• Hurricane
• Wide Guard
• Tailwind

[foggy lodge]

i have a rocky helmet one

if that works

[molten oasis]

do not ask me what it does i dont remember

[bold geode]

Bitchin

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Ummmmmmm
I mean I guess the bulk would be the same

[rustic mountain]

the approach more ppl should take

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

You're using Glimmora in Reg G

[molten oasis]

i will use zac you cant stop me

glimmora's good tho

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

I said so

[gentle crag]

treeco. (ID 669294124649676800)

[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
i jus remade my early reg g ho team and wanted to play some games

Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Dec 3, 2024, 4:48 AM

[molten oasis]

i totally thought glimmora was gonna be better in reg h

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Now time for Coaching Infernape with Caly Ice

[chrome knot]

yeah check this shit out, for toronto im bringing balance that doesnt have a trick room button

[foggy lodge]

Pelipper (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 116 Def / 44 SpA / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Weather Ball
• Hurricane
• Protect
• Wide Guard

[rustic mountain]

do u have any speed control?

[chrome knot]

yes

[bold geode]

I like this shit

[chrome knot]

tailwind

[rustic mountain]

oh ok good

[chrome knot]

look pms i show u the fun

[bold geode]

Any reason for Fairy over Grass

[bold geode]

May i sees

[molten oasis]

wow he didn't explain his and his was immediately accepted

[foggy lodge]

just dragon

[molten oasis]

[chrome knot]

noo sorry

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/whaat-huh-minion-gif-14947920

[foggy lodge]

And a tera that is not weak to ice

[bold geode]

Me no share

[bold geode]

Fair

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/f6797af19622a54e does shifu work here?

or do i need speed control

[tribal garnet]

I just caught a shiny own tempo rockruff and wanted to know if it had any good sets when in dusk form lycanroc

I know it's not viable for high play competition but I still wanna at least use it for friendly battles or via blueberry academy

[tiny karma]

Move: Draco Meteor

Lowers the user's Special Attack by 2 stages.

Type

Dragon

Category

Special

Power

130

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

I'm definitely in low ladder now yay

[tiny karma]

Move: Sing

Causes the target to fall asleep.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

55

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

*misses sing for the fourth time in a row
tf is this things accuracy -checks

[cyan smelt]

Time for gravity sing

[spiral ridge]

Hehehehe no just friend saying they were running it

And I Lowkey completely forgot how it worked

All I knew it was sleep cus anime jiggli

[rustic mountain]

fair

[spiral ridge]

I realize anime jiggly is not a good sentence to put

[rustic mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NTtbusUso

jigglypuff getting tight nobody staying up to here them sing but that move literally puts things to sleep

gotta love the irony

[spiral ridge]

marker intensifies

[chrome knot]

@rustic mountain my beloved

[rustic mountain]

gta love the t2 forfeit

[bold geode]

Nice
Having fun
👍

[chrome knot]

i like the astral barrage button

[rustic mountain]

i like getting boosts from kos that allow me to get more kos

[spiral ridge]

:3

I like wide guarding to try to say fuck no to that

[rustic mountain]

i like predicting that and either koing the wide guarder before csr hits the field or predicting it and koing them w/ single target damage

[chrome knot]

i be clickin expanding force

[spiral ridge]

Okay but like

Zama beefy

[rustic mountain]

tru

[tiny karma]

Move: Will-O-Wisp

Burns the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

And fucking fast that dog moves with his mobile tank shield

[rustic mountain]

usually cant touch csr tho so im usually chilling and just koing everything around it

[spiral ridge]

Emma wanting to burn my dog

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

i didn’t mean it like that

[spiral ridge]

Yeahh my crutch is flutter for that Ngl

[rustic mountain]

nah ofc its not a 1v1

[spiral ridge]

I’m aware that’s a gamble cus

Flutter is fucking weak and gotta guess when they bring it out cus can’t swap or else no speed boost

And then slower :)

[rustic mountain]

yea def can get tricky

[spiral ridge]

I just

Oh wait I bring chien too lol

Usually

I forget my team :)

[rustic mountain]

jus realized incin/shroom had 5/8 spots at stuggart top cut

😍

[spiral ridge]

Surprised?

[chrome knot]

stat boost!

[rustic mountain]

[craggy dagger]

horseeeeeeeeeeee

[chrome knot]

horsey :3

[tribal garnet]

This ok for Dusk Lycanroc? Honestly just wanna use her for friendlies and to do blueberry academy battles. Holding sash

[torn parrot]

You should give it focus sash

[tribal garnet]

Yeah it's holding sash

[torn parrot]

Awesome

I can see the vision if this is for single battles

Tbh like

You don’t need to invest in bulk at all

[balmy glen]

if ur sash u dont want bulk

[tribal garnet]

So take off the HP investment and put it all towards ATK?

[balmy glen]

ye point of sash is just to go max max

[tribal garnet]

So speed and Atk then

Last investments into HP? It'll be last 4 yeah

[balmy glen]

Mhm

[tribal garnet]

Wish rusted bottle caps existed to at least lower the defense

[torn parrot]

Wow

That would actually work too

That’s a good name

[tribal garnet]

Thank you! Named it after the game LoZ Twilight Princess

[gentle crag]

hellusin8 has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna cancel going to Perth because I suck at vgc

[torn parrot]

dont give up

your a champ

do it for fun if nothing else (:

[balmy glen]

You gotta lose a lot to win a lot

[cyan smelt]

It's too expensive and I don't want my parents to subsidise it, I'll go to the one next year because it's closer

[balmy glen]

Might as well not cancel if you signed up

It’s already -$70

[cyan smelt]

I'll be alone in an unfamiliar city for 3 nights, I don't think I can do that

[torn parrot]

):

maybe you can meet up with someone

[cyan smelt]

I don't know anyone in the community

[torn parrot]

im sorry

😔

if ur really not feeling it dont force yourself

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I'm pretty down and the best thing is to take a break I feel

[torn parrot]

some bad laddering?

[cyan smelt]

My team that I was doing well with in reg g part 1 is not working now

[torn parrot]

would it be okay if i see

[cyan smelt]

Sure let me grab the paste

https://pokepast.es/8d09f942da0c7d10

[torn parrot]

it looks pretty good i dont see anything that bad

is the skelidirge not pulling his weight

[cyan smelt]

It's supposed to be there for caly I but it's been a bit frail, and I don't want to use incin because clam shenanigans plus they might run cc

[balmy glen]

Try mystic water and a defensive Tera on Urshifu since u have no redirection for bolt

U have taunt and u don’t really need scarf shifu with tw in reg g at least

[cyan smelt]

I switched to mystic water, what tera is good?

[knotty mirage]

Tera dragon or electric i guess if your concern is raging bolt

Tera grass doesn't seem to be good idea because you still have the flying weakness

[craggy dagger]

tera grass is also good due to amoongus shenanigans-
though it does still leave you with a flying weakness-
but you have pao for that-
n you could run another mon instead of skele to cover for flying weakness

[cyan smelt]

Flying hasn't been an issue, it's been both calyrexes

And Groudon too ig

Actually sun is a problem

[knotty mirage]

Maybe tera electric is for the best then

If your problem is both caly too tera grass will just make you fodder for caly ice

[cyan smelt]

Is life orb better on chien Pao, then I can go sash on torn

[knotty mirage]

If you sure chien pao will not get ohko most of the time go ahead

[cyan smelt]

Also how is this allowed, I saw someone just use caly I, glastrier and spectrier

[balmy glen]

only time lorb chien feels awkward is in the miraidon mu because then they can volt switch spam

[cyan smelt]

Should I go tera stellar on chien Pao or ghost and does tera stellar lorb icicle crash ohko

[torn parrot]

[foggy lodge]

i liked this game https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2255810214-vmkntvvmh4gev2rxmi1ko256q116082pw

[mint void]

@cyan smelt

252 Atk Life Orb Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Miraidon: 255-302 (123.1 - 145.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[cyan smelt]

What about tera electric or fairy

[mint void]

252 Atk Life Orb Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Electric Miraidon: 161-190 (92 - 108.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

@cyan smelt

[cyan smelt]

Interesting

Maybe life orb is the play

[solid frigate]

lorb pao moment

[balmy glen]

None of them are 0 bulk tho

[mint void]

@balmy glen yes but Im nit gonna calc for every different bulk scenario + he knows he will probably only 2 HKO

[balmy glen]

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Ice Spinner vs. 108 HP / 4 Def Tera Fairy Miraidon: 114-136 (60.3 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[mint void]

252 Atk Life Orb Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 108 HP / 4 Def Tera Fairy Miraidon: 159-187 (84.1 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Why does Spinner do so much less

[balmy glen]

this is the spread peeps will be using/calcing to beat the mirror against since it’s the world champ spread

[balmy glen]

100% acc gaming

[mint void]

Yeah. But he is usuing Crash

[balmy glen]

Gets rid of terrain, 100% and does the same thing apart from stellar Tera anyways so I mean meh

[mint void]

Yeah I also run Spinner

[balmy glen]

he doesn’t need to tbh it’s a Zama team

But he’s Rilla so unfort

[dense latch]

bc you added lorb onto chien pao

while the ice spinner calc doesn't have it

[mint void]

Well

Its supposed to be with

[real prairie]

Best Tera for Urshu-dark with Sash?

[balmy glen]

It’s just Dark/Stellar with sash

[real prairie]

thought so, cheers

close combat, sucker punch, wicked blow yeah?

[dense latch]

yea

[molten oasis]

[molten oasis]

how i feel staring at the builder rn

[bold geode]

We having fun

Ngl everything I play rn just feels like shit

[chrome knot]

caly shadow

[bold geode]

Mind sharing sauce?

[chrome knot]

im jus on caly s bolt incin rilla shifu clefairy

tera normal caly s w/ barrage expanding force plot protect

[bold geode]

Cool

Wait y Expanding Force with no Terrain lmao

[chrome knot]

you punish the ones with terrain

10 less bp than psychic, if opponent has psychic terrain it goes to like 156bp & spread

[bold geode]

Ah
Was also thinking of trying Wolfe's Worlds 6
Either way I probably need to learn how to play this fuckin horse

[torn parrot]

Where’d all my reg Hchers go

[chrome knot]

hai

[torn parrot]

Good morning

[chrome knot]

my toronto team is just finalized and spreadsheet work is mostly done so i treated myself to some reg g :3

good mornie maya

[torn parrot]

I hope they do another curveball for reg I

[spiral ridge]

Starters only

[solid frigate]

hello

[spiral ridge]

Treat dlc players

[torn parrot]

That would be really funny

[torn parrot]

Heya glad to see your username got shorter

[spiral ridge]

If you don’t have dlc have fun getting them 😭

[feral wraith]

Only mammals

[real prairie]

Really liking this team

https://pokepast.es/bb6dfb3d4a147b7a

[spiral ridge]

Hmm

So nothing?

[solid frigate]

I'm back on my old account at least

[chrome knot]

i hope its just 2 restricted

[solid frigate]

2 restricted would be a lot better

[real prairie]

Only legendaries

[spiral ridge]

I’ve never done 2 restricted so I’m down to try it

[solid frigate]

i will just throw myself into the water

[spiral ridge]

Horse Miraidon go brrr

[molten oasis]

they left

except emma and tree ig

[torn parrot]

yayyy

i got two

[molten oasis]

the rest of us are playing the other format, i prefer reg g to reg h by a mile lol

[spiral ridge]

Both are fun

[chrome knot]

and everyone going to toronto 🫡

[bold geode]

Back to G as it should be

[feral wraith]

Monke

[bold geode]

Why are you here sir

[feral wraith]

Guy can’t visit?

[bold geode]

Sure
Kick back
Relax

Mr uhhhhh
Hmmm
What does EJC stand for today

[pallid hare]

Enjoy January Carl

[feral wraith]

[bold geode]

Ergonomic Jpop Church

[timber falcon]

is it just me or are the evs being weird

i thought theres more than 508

[bold geode]

510 but the last 2 don't matter so 508

[foggy lodge]

Someone beated Eric Rios in stream with the Geezing Toedscruel team from Wolfey

In the reg G bo3 ladder😭

[solid frigate]

i saw someone with Infernape Koraidon-

welp Monke moment

[slim rune]

Yall I really wanna try competitive but I have absolutely no clue how to choose mons & Strat for a team
I know how to EV train and such, I’ve done lots with raid builds
I just dunno how to make what do I know into a viable pvp team/teams

Is there any conciquence to just trying competitive and seeing how it goes?
You can’t really loose rank if you have none can you?

[strange fjord]

bro lost to swamp lol

[slim rune]

lol

[strange fjord]

so srupid

[slim rune]

:P

[chrome knot]

theres no consequences in trying something no

[slim rune]

Ooh ok! Ty for the info ^w^

[gentle crag]

.jackoat has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[strange fjord]

yeah you can do competitive and in-game ladder tries to pair you up with similar skilled players.
if you're doing doubles VGC, this can help you get started: https://www.vgcguide.com

[chrome knot]

idk the command to bring up all the resources but there’s a million things pinned that can help

[slim rune]

Oh ok Ty!
What’s VGC mean?
I assume doubles is double battles?

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1733246582:R>.

[slim rune]

I’ll check the pins!!

[strange fjord]

VGC is the doubles online ranked ladder. Basically you have a team of 4-6 Pokemon and in Team Preview, you can choose only 4 of them to battle against your opponent.

[slim rune]

Ooh ok!

[strange fjord]

Pokemon are set to level 50 and you can't have the same item on your Pokemon, or have multiple of the same Pokemon on your team

[slim rune]

Gotchya!

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/e729668becaaea34 thoughts on this team anyone?

[solid frigate]

moment

[solid frigate]

currently its recommended to learn the Basics of VGC ,there are lots of info and resources in Pinned Messages

[slim rune]

Reading through the basics guide rn Ty!

[gentle crag]

.jackoat has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[solid frigate]

good luck

[timber falcon]

i gotta know if im cooking or burning trash rn

[solid frigate]

Its alright,Bronzong is a bit unecessary but otherwise everything feels fine

[spiral ridge]

Jackoat hey!! Goodluck

[timber falcon]

bronzong was chosen for tr counter or smth. pairs decent with wo chien

[solid frigate]

Incin feels fine on the team as well tho

Look at Shiliang Tang's Kyogre Wo-Chien Team its solid

[timber falcon]

yeah thats where the inspiration came from, i do think a fire type over bronxong looks great though#

[spiral ridge]

I ran a very similar kyogre wo team. Incin torn or Grimm best choices here

Much as I love jug it gets OHKOd by flutter a lot

But it’s snarl spam is great

My thoughts on the team at least

[timber falcon]

jug is another mon thats considered to be replacable

[spiral ridge]

If not them then torn

Be wary of double spread into zama teams or something though

[timber falcon]

maybe torn tbh

[spiral ridge]

Do what feels best

I love jug too just has problems at times

[timber falcon]

yeah ik

[spiral ridge]

But it’s not a bad balance tw setter

Which since balance yeah incin

[bold geode]

Huh

[timber falcon]

maybe i need a bulky torn

[spiral ridge]

I used the NAIC kyogre wo chien team if you just wanna steal that

[solid frigate]

Yeah Infernape Koraidon

[timber falcon]

id like to see the Evs if possible

[spiral ridge]

It’s a rental sorry :(

[timber falcon]

ah fair enough

[spiral ridge]

You may be able to check EVs in game?

[timber falcon]

would be a rough estimate i believe, the game doesnt supply numbers

cause im struggling with kyogres physical defence

[spiral ridge]

Ah yeah no fucking clue sorry love

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-kyogresmile-pokemon-pokemon-smile-kyogre-creepy-gif-19828510

[craggy dagger]

there are stat calculators

you input the total stat given in the game and it tells you how much IV/EVs it has

[spiral ridge]

Oh there is sick

I remember you doing this once that’s why I knew to say it 😭

[solid frigate]

i could run Grimm and Wo Chien together(I did that before)

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

Easy screen sets and shit

[bold geode]

Replay?

[spiral ridge]

Helps AV a lot cus you can keep getting hp to 100%

[solid frigate]

dont have but i can send the team

[bold geode]

Shocks too lmao

[spiral ridge]

If I ever start having issues with like CSR my ass is grabbing a blood moon I don’t care

I’ve never really used em but I will learn

[solid frigate]

also whats with CSR paired with weird Gimmicks lol

[spiral ridge]

Oh the calydow weezing?

[solid frigate]

no

anything Else i saw

[molten oasis]

[spiral ridge]

“You said the one wrong choice dumbass”

[solid frigate]

[spiral ridge]

:3

[molten oasis]

I’ll begin cooking when I finish up Metaphor

Thinking of trying to bring gapdos back

[spiral ridge]

Oo

[spiral ridge]

Ooo how is it

Also did you ever beat okami I don’t think I heard your thoughts

[molten oasis]

Peak

Actually, insanely good game

[molten oasis]

I got distracted by monster hunter and this but I’ll finish it

[spiral ridge]

Hope so if it’s nominated GOTY 😭

[molten oasis]

It deserves it

[spiral ridge]

How’s it been so far?

[molten oasis]

I finished the first act

It’s very fun

I like the art style a lot too

Definitely one of my favorites I’ve played this year

[spiral ridge]

Hope you enjoy dude

Metaphor art is also peak

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger would you still love me if i clicked expanding force in toronto

[spiral ridge]

I’m playing grime rn and it’s so fleshy and gross 😭 fucking mahito made this game

[molten oasis]

See here’s what hurts for me

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-s2-jujutsu-kaisen-season-2-jjk-s2-gif-7566509052587210894

[timber falcon]

yeah im pretty sure thats how the official team works, but for now ima rely on incin

[molten oasis]

Shadow of the Erdtree will absolutely win things idt it deserves

[spiral ridge]

I am a fucking souls die hard. It shouldn’t win at all I agree

[molten oasis]

It’s a dlc, not a new game, I don’t exactly think it deserves all those nominations

[spiral ridge]

I think it can win some smaller categories but absolutely not GOTY

[molten oasis]

Agreed

[spiral ridge]

Just get a dlc category

Episode aigis since P3 got NOTHING

it would be a small and usually lackluster category probably but who cares

They can still go for soundtrack. Art direction. Yada yada

[molten oasis]

P3 got nothing which, sucks

[spiral ridge]

YEAH

[molten oasis]

But I also think that’s heavily due to Metaphor

[spiral ridge]

That’s too dark sorry

[molten oasis]

lol

[spiral ridge]

Probably but I hate that people do that “one per company” who fucking cares if they’re cooking let them COOK

[molten oasis]

Ong lol

[spiral ridge]

Award the good shit if someone shined this year recognize it

Game awards shouldn’t be fucking political

It’s probably just cus hurt feelings if they do that but like
Cmon

[molten oasis]

Yea lol

I still need to finish up P3

I think I stopped cuz I wanna beat death and he’s a jerk lol

[spiral ridge]

I need to play a single persona :)

[molten oasis]

Dawg

Do it lol

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[spiral ridge]

https://wheelofnames.com/x2j-pty
waiting on this

[molten oasis]

Oh right the wheel lol

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wheel-of-fortune-spin-the-price-is-right-gif-9848245

[timber falcon]

yeah incin is a great addition, more flexible leads with that fake out

[craggy dagger]

that doesn’t make you not emma so yes

[chrome knot]

i suck at balance must play baby team

[spiral ridge]

[lofty tartan]

Just had a talk about "psyspam isn't a real team" in another discord.

Their opinion wasn't a very well received one lmao.

Play whatever you're comfortable with

[chrome knot]

im jus using marcus dion team

[lofty tartan]

Marcus/Carson's Ursa team?

[chrome knot]

mhm

[lofty tartan]

I was close to playing that, but didn't wanna lock in the exact six that just won a Regional.

Nothing wrong with it. Strong core strong team.

[chrome knot]

i changed incin for ttar

[lofty tartan]

Oh. Uh

LMFAO

[chrome knot]

what

[lofty tartan]

Emma we're playing the same team

[chrome knot]

oh cute

[lofty tartan]

Lmfao

[chrome knot]

was debating what the incin slot could be

[lofty tartan]

https://pokepast.es/c4e74d021ef67f0c

Yeah incin/Dnite felt like flex slot

[chrome knot]

between ghold & dnite so i went well ttar just does both

[lofty tartan]

Ttar cleans up the sun match and a few other things

Hilarious we landed on the same six lol

[chrome knot]

its a panic last option ngl

i couldn’t learn team group was on

[lofty tartan]

I switched to this from Delphox 🤷

[chrome knot]

made me upset, and being insufferably mid in a group setting is depressing a little

[lofty tartan]

I'm not gonna sit here and agree that you're insufferably mid but ibunderstand what you're talking about

[chrome knot]

in comparison, not overall

[lofty tartan]

No I get you

[chrome knot]

i think im well enough

[bold geode]

[lofty tartan]

I think I'm an adequate player but compared to some of the folks in the NE discord I feel lacking.

But we have Dr Aaron Traylor anyway

Team is good though. BM Ursa/Talon/IndeedeeM/sneasler is strong

Ttar kicks ass.

[bold geode]

Idt I'm necessarily bad but hella better players than me
I'm also just really hard on myself

[lofty tartan]

And for some reason I'm kryptonite to you

I'm the Gary to your Ash lmfao

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

(Yuh Huh)

Gotta give yourself a little more credit lol

[lofty tartan]

Adequate is fine. Means I'm serviceable but have room for improvement.

[bold geode]

I gotta put together GC team tonight

[lofty tartan]

Well if you're gonna be around to run sets then we can probably figure one out for you

[chrome knot]

im just gonna skip this gc tbh

[bold geode]

Hopefully that goes well
Hell I'm hoping CSR works later for G cuz everything else is booboo

[craggy dagger]

oh is gc today-

[lofty tartan]

GC registration ends Thursday

Im only gonna participate to get more comfortable with my team, since I switched so close to Toronto

[bold geode]

Was probably gonna run Coaching Sneasler and Dnite again with Gholdengo Gastro Rilla Mag

[lofty tartan]

10 days til my flight.

[lofty tartan]

Dude just play the 4th place team from LAIC if you're doing thst

[bold geode]

Was gonna do Bax but Gastro is my Dozo wall and apparently once I tera to Fairy then Dozo does a fuckton with Heavy Slam so Haze kinda uh

[lofty tartan]

https://pokepast.es/880c0223e22eb4b7

[chrome knot]

twinsies except im still sash indeedee

[lofty tartan]

Specs gets whacky. Ngl.

You can chip Dnite with a dire claw - non-Tera EForce kos

[bold geode]

I feel like that 4th place team wants redirection so fuckin bad

Either that or I'll probably grab what you got if that's ok

[lofty tartan]

Modest Mindeedee is 2 speed faster than max speed jolly Dnite

[bold geode]

Hell my confidence rn ain't really that high

[solid frigate]

lol

never heard of Monke without confidence

[bold geode]

You ain't pay attention then lol

[lofty tartan]

I honestly think I'm going Tera fighting Mindeedee though.
Specs makes me want a defensive Tera against dark and specs Tera fighting Tera blast can ohko Incin

[lofty tartan]

Uses FO to set up. Or coaching Sneasler

Just remind yourself that coaching goes through protect

[bold geode]

Why not tera Fairy to say fuck you to Scale Shot Dnite? You got like 3 things that Incin won't like

[solid frigate]

no shit i was in the other server talking about HSR lol

[lofty tartan]

Because why Tera defensively against dragonite when I can just kill it without using my Tera?

[bold geode]

But I also wanna make sure I have special attackers too and not just physical attackers so I don't have to rely on Kingambit 100% to make sure that Incin don't shit me out

[bold geode]

I mean fair

[lofty tartan]

It's obviously like... A volatile circumstance. If Dnite teras things get weird but are they gonna Tera Steel or fairy in front of Sneasler?

I hope so

[bold geode]

But also I might play GC, make Reg G blogpost and go on a break even though it's kinda counterproductive rn

[lofty tartan]

No breaks. Just mons

I leave for Toronto in ten days.

[chrome knot]

look pms ill show u where im at ig

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Idk
I just don't know how well G gonna be for me this time around

[torn parrot]

im starting to want zacian fucking dead for how many play roughs he misses

i think we need to put this dog down

[bold geode]

Things that are alright or felt good just don't rn and I didn't do well with some consistent things like CSR before and honestly like I don't even have the confidence rn to be able to think that I can do well with anything else

Or just anything at all

And thing is idek the quality of players on the Reg G ladder rn
Idk how many good people I've fought lately so for all I know I could literally just be struggling with people who aren't that good

Hell most of the time I've won on the ladder now I don't even feel like I deserved it

Just managed to pull something out my ass
Like thing is I feel like I understand the fuckin game
Hell I could literally do replay reviews and other shit
I just don't know why I can't ever really just fully translate that shit to my own play

[solid frigate]

no Breaks

Just do content

[solid frigate]

its just the first week

Literally there is NO define meta placement rn in the ladders

[bold geode]

Don't matter

[craggy dagger]

welcome to the world of drago lol

[bold geode]

Still know I can do WAY fuckin better than I am rn

[solid frigate]

this is kinda a running gag for a while lol

[bold geode]

Idc if it's the first week or the last fucking hour

The way I've been playing is just unacceptable

[solid frigate]

Reg H throw us off fr

[bold geode]

Ain't really even that

[craggy dagger]

too used to being in a low power format where nothing just ohkos?

[bold geode]

No it's just unacceptable

I know I can do better therefore I should be doing better

[craggy dagger]

and thats how you play worse and worse

[bold geode]

Well I can't just lie here and accept it

"I'm playing horribly cuz it's early ladder"
No Reg G was already around for 4 months, already have experience with it
That ain't really nothing more than an excuse for me but I can't have those

Don't get better that way

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[chrome knot]

oh good heavens

[plain drum]

[balmy glen]

Wolfey got game

[solid frigate]

i'm laughing my ass out hold on

[balmy glen]

face of competitive game

[solid frigate]

we got Pokimane into VGC before GTA6

[next stump]

pokimane at a regional when

[solid frigate]

I can't stop laughing my ass out

[bold geode]

Anyways imma go back to thinking how I need to change things
Later

[solid frigate]

see ya

[lofty tartan]

It's day -28. Slow down

Adopt some chill, Monke

It's day -28 reg H all over again

[bold geode]

I can't
Why try to pat myself on the back repeatedly again and again when I ain't done nothing
It's cope
I hold myself to standards and rn I ain't meeting them, so something gotta change

How I've always looked at things

[lofty tartan]

I'm not telling you to pat yourself on the back. You're doomsaying and spiraling before the format has officially stsrted and while a large amount of the player base is still playing Reg H

It's the same every regulation change.

You need to chill lmao

I'm not patronizing you.

[bold geode]

Yeah but then my doom spiraling always comes down to just "pull your head out ya ass" lol

[lofty tartan]

I'm not saying that lol. Platitudes aren't my style.

If you wanna say that, then tell yourself and slow down. If it doesn't feel good stop hammering it. Play something else.

Go for a walk. I dunno. Lmao. Eat a cookie

Chocolate is good for a dopamine fix

[bold geode]

Well I'm just getting over it quicker
I mean it's not like other times where I just don't know what I'm doing at all
I know these things, nothing is new, the things that were good before are still good

[lofty tartan]

It's a roughly-solved format

[bold geode]

Working out gives me that lol

[lofty tartan]

Well duh yeah

Working the body works the mind. 😄

[bold geode]

Actually the one thing I like about it
It wakes me tf up

[spiral ridge]

Bro is a menace 😭

Time to make another sheer cold team

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/2dd503e34ac677ca cookin

[sharp cobalt]

I've a question

Which eviolite mons perform well in VGC? Anything other than Pory2?

O right, Clefairy

[spiral ridge]

Reg H magmar electa as well

[mint void]

saw some peeps run fing Charjabug

[next stump]

Dusclops on top of what others said

[bold geode]

How fast should Zamazenta be

[spiral ridge]

Please tell me you know my zama is off your EVs

You’re scaring me here monkey

[bold geode]

Yes
But my EVs could be outdated

It happens

[spiral ridge]

Alrighty

[torn parrot]

I like to outspeed ogerpon personally

Wide guard set might want something different though

But I feel like speed is king

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/339442260ed4e94d hehe

[calm gulch]

stfu

[bold geode]

Motherfucker where you been

I've been looking all over to bully you

[calm gulch]

i left general shit

you can find me in shiny hunters during football or f1 time or in tcgp discussion

[bold geode]

Oh
Well I bullied you in shiny shit

[calm gulch]

welcome back

[torn parrot]

im hppy to see you having fun

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

@rustic mountain Me angy
Why Klay Thompson so ass

[molten oasis]

who's that?

[bold geode]

A basketball player my favorite team got
He was good but after some injuries
Not so much

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256147887

pfft

https://pokepast.es/b9b0841ec99bc2a1

[bold geode]

@balmy glen ayo how fast Zam gotta be

[foggy lodge]

Anyone here wants to play some games in cart?

[foggy lodge]

im not Keanu but personally i used my Zama to be faster than adamant Ogerpon aka not speed nature base 110 mons

[solid frigate]

so basically faster than Max Speed Pon

[craggy dagger]

i’ve seen a bunch that’s slower

[solid frigate]

that has more Bulk?

[timber falcon]

is a 41% chance to 3HKO a nice stat?

[next stump]

I’d say so

[solid frigate]

usually i'd say 66% to 3HKO is better

[timber falcon]

+1 252+ Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 252 HP / 60 Def Kyogre: 105-124 (50.7 - 59.9%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery and Grassy Terrain recovery

context is kyogre VS zamazenta

[next stump]

I don’t think Zama is your main defensive calc you care about as Kyogre

[timber falcon]

what should i go for

[next stump]

when I brought it to worlds, it’s all about stuff like Rilla/Bolt/Chien-Pao if you tera grass

wood hammer is a tough hit to live

[timber falcon]

im trying out fire, because grass left me open to wayy too many stuff i hated

like calyrex ice, tornadus ect

[timber falcon]

i think ill use pao for attack thanks

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[timber falcon]

but are CSR and bolt interchangeable?

[next stump]

as in calcing defensively for them?

[timber falcon]

yeah

[next stump]

not really, I’d look to live something like Thunderclap from booster bolt or thunderbolt from non booster

and maybe +1 or +2 barrage

been a while since I ran reg G calcs but that’s about what I looked for

[timber falcon]

alright ill run calcs mainly for bolt, thanks again

[next stump]

you’re welcome 🙂 i ran defensive calm mind kyogre for about a month so if you ever want matchup help let me know

[timber falcon]

yeah im also trying to make a calm mind kyogre, im wondering if i should add calm mind boosts in calcs though?

[foggy lodge]

A Clodsire one shoted my Miraidon😭

[timber falcon]

lmaoooo

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[cyan smelt]

Lmao

[balmy glen]

I’ve been playing with mine lately. My worlds Zama has like no speed tho lmao

I just played a certain way to make them use speed reducing moves or TW so they never found out lol

[bold geode]

LMAO bruh
My IDBP one would outspeed Modest Chi Yu but I was gonna kick it up to either 156 or to outspeed Adamant Ogerpon
Whatchu think

[balmy glen]

outspeeding modest chi is fine I had it like that from indie to LA

Actually I think mine outsped modest Lando I cuz it was just another point

Adament Oger is something I thought abt but I was just like it forces them to Tera fire anyways to even OHKO my Zama and it’s mostly just on sun/miraidon teams anyways so it wasn’t a huge deal

Can I see your team again then I’ll know what speed tier should be fine @bold geode

[bold geode]

Was gonna try this
https://pokepast.es/7d7c70773141c2f0
Also does Hearth not OHKO Zama without tera?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/b63284db8aca5aeb hey Keanu can you take a look at this? It’s something I wanna mess with a little cuz I think it could be ok

[bold geode]

Wait your turn bruh /j

[molten oasis]

If I wait he gonna be gone plus he can get to me when he can

[bold geode]

I'm joking

[molten oasis]

He doesn’t have to respond lol

[plain drum]

Keanu PayPal me $30,000

[bold geode]

Eni give me your spleen 🫵👁️👁️

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[bold geode]

Drago why'd you scare Keanu away

[molten oasis]

He can’t handle the power of my (terrible) cooking

[knotty mirage]

If i want to use hydreigon is it better to give it fire tera or poison tera ?

[next stump]

Miraidon popping off

[bold geode]

What's this

[next stump]

i think a weekly or daily tournament

[bold geode]

Ah

[mint void]

You should calc both if U actually make tryhard notes.
One calc no boost. 1 with cause both are realistic to occur

[molten oasis]

gambit and volc

[mint void]

Poison for less weaknesses. Turns arnd the psychic immunity into a weakness but would be the only one.

Fire usually because u alao get a boost on fire type coverage.

Poison defensive cause u swap all ur weaknesses into resistance.
Fire offensive to boost Fire coverage moves

[solid frigate]

F

[solid frigate]

PAGOS IS STILL ALIVE

[dry quartz]

Sup brothers, one question can I ask people to play BO3 on Switch in this channel, or should I ask in another channel?

[solid frigate]

#1046572041421197352

[dry quartz]

thx for the info

i want to practice some bo3 and improve my gameplay 😄

[torn parrot]

Imposter gmax shifu

[foggy lodge]

i could play with you too

depending in which reg are you playing im not into reg H

But if you want to play reg G lmk

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 931: Squawkabilly

Types

Normal/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Hustle, Guts (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

82/96/51/45/51/92

Total

417

Other Formes

Squawkabilly-Blue, Squawkabilly-Yellow, Squawkabilly-White

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

What's that thing to the right of grimmsnarl on Joe's team

[balmy glen]

Urshifu Dynamax

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[balmy glen]

Was this recent I thought this was before worlds

[balmy glen]

No

[balmy glen]

Get rid of glide btw u have no Rilla lol

[bold geode]

Ah
I didn't know I always just fuckin launched tera in that MU

Oh I didn't fix that lmao

[balmy glen]

We could probably change some stuff around I wouldn’t really run Iron Hands and Zapdos tbh

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/d6eb1147068586d8
There we go

[molten oasis]

So Zapdos is usable?

And I’m ok with whatever I just figured pao Zac gapdos seemed, decent at least

[bold geode]

Anyways what speed should this Zama hit hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[balmy glen]

It can be tbh

A lot of teams lack Defiant atm

[molten oasis]

Sick

[balmy glen]

Iron hands is good for the Mirai mu

[molten oasis]

I figured defiant helps Zac with uh, incin lol

[balmy glen]

But like you could just go ice spinner on Pao and replace iron hands if u really wanna use Gapdos

[molten oasis]

Hm

[balmy glen]

I tend to like Ice spinner more when there’s no rilla

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/024e318950c7f7f8 ok so, what does this need?

Im fine with using spinner it won’t miss

Idk how the caly mu’s are

[cyan smelt]

Something to stop tr

[bold geode]

Think imma go for outspeeding Adamant Oger with Zamazenta since I don't have like rain

Plus the Zamazenta I fought from Japan were all faster than 154 at least so

[molten oasis]

Fari? Idk

[cyan smelt]

That might work then you can also stop fake out

Tera ground for miraidon

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/8a1e982e3f6ea3b0

Need suggestions for last 2 slots

[balmy glen]

I don’t really stop trick room

I just kill everything in trick room with amoongus Zama lmao

[molten oasis]

I don’t got that for this team

…ig there’s wellspring

[solid frigate]

thats why Amogus is just goated on TR moments

[bold geode]

Hey do you think going second Def bump vs highest one on Zam would be fine?

[balmy glen]

uhhh since u have Chien and flutter ig it should be fine

[bold geode]

Ah ok fuck it we now have Spdef too to live Timid Chi Yu Heat Wave cuz fuck it, it will come up lol

Source: trust me bro

[dense latch]

at first glance i’d try and find a fire resist, scarf chi yu likely forces tera/sweeps as is

[balmy glen]

I’m ngl

I think I’ve gotten over heated every time lmao

[bold geode]

Ngl
It's actually counted
Plus it's just general bulk which I sorta like
I mean have a good amount of Def investment, hit speed I want, no harm in it

Actually lmao my Chi Yu hate is unreal, I just EV'd my Ursh to outspeed Timid Scarf Chi Yu after T Wave
Tell me what's wrong there

[dense latch]

that’s so real icl

still waiting for the day a chi yu misses a move against me

[bold geode]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Idt there's anything I'm missing out on outspeeding if I'm slower

And I need literally no speed investment
Eh fuck it I'll keep it, hit my marks

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256315033

This is stupid

[tiny peak]

Scizor vs flutter mane which is the better set choice band or av?

[rustic mountain]

multiple potential career ending injuries

eventually catches up, hes just not the same guy

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256319648-vlmj4bhdgncr38gpo95np8favy399snpw

tree i'm cooking lmao

[rustic mountain]

jfc u were ready w/ that

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/b9b0841ec99bc2a1

[rustic mountain]

ill take a look inna min

[cyan smelt]

Why hoodra

[solid frigate]

look at the replay and you understand

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/5c13c40a56d51304 could i ask for you advice on this? just not sure where to go but i think its a solid core

[cyan smelt]

Neutral to glacial lance and unkillable with iron def?

[solid frigate]

and Punish Rillaboom without High Horsepower and Urshifu

[rustic mountain]

tf they try setting up aurora veil t1

also idk y u needed to tera in the end game

[solid frigate]

week 1 low ladder is abyssmal

[cyan smelt]

What do you do against sun teams like koraidon and Groudon

[rustic mountain]

im not sold on hoodra but rest of the team seems ok, prolly would swap whims out for something else

[cyan smelt]

And chi yu flutter

[solid frigate]

do i need to explain,i don't do Hoodra shit unless i am comfortable with my MUs

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[molten oasis]

"hey what a nice team" says the flutter fish user

[rustic mountain]

entei flutter maybe? booster speed flutter

[molten oasis]

why entei

and what set on it

[rustic mountain]

u need some kinda special damage. enteis a good fire type

[molten oasis]

so why not just incin then, im just pointing it out

[rustic mountain]

double fighting weakness kinda sucks w/ hands and shifu

[molten oasis]

i'll try it just didn't go super well last time

[rustic mountain]

even w/ tera

[molten oasis]

valid

[solid frigate]

i thought you mean SpA Entei lmao

[molten oasis]

lmao

[rustic mountain]

no hahaha

[molten oasis]

eruption entei GO

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean ive told yall before im not exactly a great teambuilder

just guesses really of strong mons

flutter is fairy but it and zacian share no weaknesses

[molten oasis]

well Keanu and Tofu havent gotten back to me so im just kinda unsure

and semi desperate

[rustic mountain]

try shit out

[molten oasis]

im also probably coping on gapdos

[rustic mountain]

id say lando i over zap for scarf i get the intimidate deterrent but idk if its super necessary

[molten oasis]

but i also think its a mon that does well into the incin rilla shifu cores so i wanna give it a fair shot

[tiny peak]

Scizor vs flutter mane, which set is better for scizor, choice band or av?

[rustic mountain]

idk scizor kinda mid

[molten oasis]

i havent really liked scarf on lando, i prefer protect and lorb on it personally

but i get what you mean

[rustic mountain]

yea i mean u def miss some of that damage

[molten oasis]

i dont think its a consistent ko on miraidon but i need to recheck that calc

nvm im dumb lol

still i think the damage boost helps out against the things that are neutral to it

again, probably coping on gapdos but i still wanna try it

[dense latch]

what’s nice about scarf lando is that you get to run a bit more coverage on it

[molten oasis]

what coverage

[rustic mountain]

its the trade off, its really jus supposed to be for mirai and incin to force the tera or force them to click something they prolly dont wanna like draco

[tiny karma]

Landorus's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Fissure, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Outrage, Payback, Punishment, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, U-turn

Special Moves

Earth Power, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Sandsear Storm, Scorching Sands, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Landorus.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

extrasensory? lol

[dense latch]

wow that’s ass nvm

[rustic mountain]

ground damage is nice to threaten those types zacian generally cant hit otherwise

[dense latch]

i’ve seen psychic, i saw a worlds team w tera flying tera blast

[molten oasis]

i think the cope is just doing a lot idk

i wanna bring it back its one of my favorites to use but im also actively picking it over shifu and hands

and lando in this situation

thx for the advice

[shadow wind]

Steel AND fire

[molten oasis]

crazy

[rustic mountain]

i think its one of those things where its like, ur already using zacian, how much harder do u wanna make it on urself?

[molten oasis]

again, im coping

[rustic mountain]

u wanna make it work u have to cater ur team more around it for it to be as effective as ur looking for

[shadow wind]

Now that is some sound advice

[molten oasis]

i'll just add shifu or lando and torn and call it a day

lost the motive for the day

[shadow wind]

Like how I need to pair Groudon with gravity...

[molten oasis]

not anyone's fault just dissapointed in myself

[rustic mountain]

gotta stop being so hard on urself

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Being confident makes you play better

If you don't think you can ever win, you lost before you clicked the battle button

[molten oasis]

i dont have confidence i feel stuck again

before i spiral out of control again imma just dip

[shadow wind]

Good call

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[shadow wind]

Knowing when to stop is the hardest thing lowkey

[dense latch]

frr

[molten oasis]

its happened so much, and would rather not continue doing it lol

[dense latch]

you have to go through the process so many times to realize when it’s just gonna start to go down

[shadow wind]

I love throwing myself against ladder for 8 hours straight...

My favourite past time lowkey

Uhhh

Where is the rest of their team?

[dense latch]

i played an unhealthy number of games when reg g dropped

[molten oasis]

i played 12 and havent played since

[rustic mountain]

wen u do come back, just use a pre established team and take it for a spin temporarily just to remind urself u can win. hard to regain ur confidence back if ur in the same loop

[molten oasis]

i had smth that worked i got my hopes up like an idiot again

[dense latch]

they’re just that confident damn

[rustic mountain]

u said u played 12 games, how would u know it worked

[molten oasis]

try again tomorrow and hopefully reset

[molten oasis]

the core i messed with felt solid idk

[rustic mountain]

and then?

[molten oasis]

and then i thought adding another niche thing was a good idea

[rustic mountain]

im confused how u went for it feeling solid to feeling like its joever in 12 games

[rustic mountain]

oh theres ur problem

[molten oasis]

yea lol

[rustic mountain]

yea ur jus trynna overreach on wat u wanna make work on 1 team

[molten oasis]

legit just bein dumb lol

[rustic mountain]

idk if id necessarily say dumb but def overzealous

[shadow wind]

They got 4-0'd 😔

[rustic mountain]

its not that its not possible but dont try nd force it

[molten oasis]

thats probably more accurate lol

[rustic mountain]

usually 1 niche or off meta pick is enough

why overload urself w/ trynna make so many niche picks work at once

[molten oasis]

i believe zac pao pon is good, just have to figure out the others which just takes experimentation

[shadow wind]

Pao is so underrated

[rustic mountain]

is it?

[shadow wind]

Maybe not underrated

[molten oasis]

???

[rustic mountain]

i feel like pao is very properly rated

[shadow wind]

I feel like I don't see it enough

[molten oasis]

Pao gets used pretty regularly

depends what you're fighting

[rustic mountain]

ive been seeing it a decent amount

[shadow wind]

Maybe I got a bad sample size then

[rustic mountain]

not reg c useage but still

[molten oasis]

reg c useage was crazy lol

paonite fckn everywhere

[shadow wind]

I guess when people are using CSR, Kyogre, and Miraidon

Pao ain't needed on those teams

[molten oasis]

yea

zama teams typically have pao

[shadow wind]

Yeah they do

[rustic mountain]

exactly

[shadow wind]

I'm now realizing I only hate playing against Calyrexes

Everything else I can deal with

[rustic mountain]

only 3/24 top teams had pao at worlds

[molten oasis]

but also most of those were like, CIR or special attackers

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

CIR doesn't need pao at all lol

[shadow wind]

And double ice is yikes

[molten oasis]

boosts itself and double ice is not good

[rustic mountain]

yea thatd be weird

[shadow wind]

And Pao has zero place on TR teams

[molten oasis]

yea

[shadow wind]

IRON BALL PAO

[rustic mountain]

2/3 paos were zama teams the other was turtle

[shadow wind]

Really?

With Entei?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/3c4eb2dc30f38452 hm

tofu mentioned needing another shifu answer so bolt, did that

[rustic mountain]

1 had entei, keanus didnt

[shadow wind]

Add thunder to bolt

[rustic mountain]

turtle team was balance core + pao flutter

[shadow wind]

Trust

[molten oasis]

thats fckn ballsy

[rustic mountain]

id say snarl

[shadow wind]

I did not see the sunny day

[rustic mountain]

for the csrs and stuff

[shadow wind]

I assumed it had rain dance

[molten oasis]

no thunderbolt?

[shadow wind]

No eweb I would say

[molten oasis]

oh its supposed to be rain dance

ig i dont need the speed control

[shadow wind]

Yeah, Zacian is fast as

[cyan smelt]

It's confusing with what tera caly s is and whether it's cloak or sitrus, and it's confusing if miraidon is tera electric or tera fairy

[molten oasis]

snarl, mk

helps more with CIR ontop of wellspring and pao

[shadow wind]

Or specs

[rustic mountain]

u have tw idk if webs is completely necessary, also snarl kinda mid vs the cloak csrs so u gta be careful of that

[shadow wind]

And cloak pagos

[rustic mountain]

ive mainly seen fairy tera on mirai

[molten oasis]

i have no fighting types

[rustic mountain]

csrs tera usually team dependent

[shadow wind]

Main reason I actually got rid of snarl on my team

[molten oasis]

lets go the pagos mu is pray

[shadow wind]

Too many stupid cloak CSRs

[cyan smelt]

Fairy tera Mirai dazzling gleam hurts

[rustic mountain]

yes

[cyan smelt]

And that thing gets overheat for steel types

[shadow wind]

They never run overheat...

[molten oasis]

idk if i snarl i feel like wellspring pao zac did, enough, usually

[shadow wind]

Right?

[molten oasis]

if i lost it was kinda due to just me messing up

[rustic mountain]

tf u running overheat over

[cyan smelt]

I've never seen overheat

[shadow wind]

Literally

[molten oasis]

taht and i havent fought the clef shit

[rustic mountain]

gleam+volt switch+e drift+ draco

[shadow wind]

They run it in singles

[shadow wind]

Rillaboom I guess?

[rustic mountain]

ew

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

jus play better

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't hands deal with rilla

[shadow wind]

Just volt switch

[rustic mountain]

overheat seems wack

[cyan smelt]

I'm still not sure whether to go U turn or hhp on rilla

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/9095e435c8133a92 i need some help with my farig evs, this tanks a throat chop from chien pao and hits the first spatk bump, idk what else to change set wise or pokemon wise

[rustic mountain]

i like u turn cause i dont always love hard switching

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/a1c3f02efa1d9707 anythin else?

[shadow wind]

Yeah

U turn is way better for Reg G I find

[cyan smelt]

U turn is good against incin too

[dense latch]

cycling out terrain/intimidate drops will def come in handy

[molten oasis]

oh god the intim cycling for zac...

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

tbf if it tera's bblade is open

and it doesnt wanna take cudgel or ep

[shadow wind]

That's why weezing kinda goes crazy

[molten oasis]

-1 132 Atk Tera-Water Ogerpon-Wellspring Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 228 HP / 188+ Def Incineroar in Rain: 196-232 (98.4 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO hehe

[molten oasis]

no, im not using weezing

[shadow wind]

Man, why are people using 4 pokemon in Reg G

[molten oasis]

i would be more open if it shut off as one but it doesn't

[shadow wind]

That 4 pokemon team just won

[cyan smelt]

Tera ghost parting shot incin is also a nightmare for zama

[shadow wind]

My life is a lie

[solid frigate]

omg i miss ohkoing stuff

back to Miraidon we go

[cyan smelt]

I want to use fissure ting lu and yawn dozo

[shadow wind]

Ew

[solid frigate]

shut up-

[shadow wind]

Quick claw horn drill Dewgong !!

[cyan smelt]

I've seen that team, with strength sap sleep powder gloom

[shadow wind]

I thought it was loaded dice stench bullet seed too

Now that is what I call greed

Chien pao and Gouging fire respectively*

[cyan smelt]

Nice way to deny tr

[shadow wind]

I love Roar

[cyan smelt]

Can also deny set up mons

[shadow wind]

It also is amazing for coaching leads with Caly

I love how it goes through protect

Wish it worked on Dozo though

Would mean I could have 4 attacking moves on my Dnite instead of haze

Choice band haze 😭

[molten oasis]

double genie go crazy

[cyan smelt]

Ngl I hate teams with dozo weezing and caly s

[shadow wind]

It's such a formulated team

Weezing Caly S lead

Dozo giri in the back

Have fun stopping it !

Also a tera electric Calyrex Ice just took a +1 Pblade

What is this game

[cyan smelt]

No idea

[shadow wind]

To be fair I have like no attack invest but still

[cyan smelt]

Also why are groudons going tera fairy

[shadow wind]

Draco meteor

[cyan smelt]

To avoid body press?

[shadow wind]

Who knows

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256342205-2ic00dkxuacewd6df3m41h2n331m7szpw pff

[shadow wind]

I'm a tera fire ride or die

[cyan smelt]

All I know is heavy slam does nothing to tera fairy Groudon

[shadow wind]

Nice turn 1 prediction

[shadow wind]

And heat crash does nothing to tera grass Zama

Why I hate heat crash

[solid frigate]

i'm brutally murdering a CIR team with Ogerpon rn hold up

[cyan smelt]

Why is everyone doing well in this format except me

[shadow wind]

Ttar team

Now I'm intrigued

With Miraidon

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256342489-5bgbpfwrvy2p2tpp2zuikkkmy23y415pw

Done

[shadow wind]

And Tornshifu...

[solid frigate]

i fought them before using Kyogre and their Tera is Ice for odd reason

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256343753-agt70bu5ciaiz5i1t3xvr393fiz5nw0pw

Alright

Also that was a thick Ogerpon

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Ogerpon: 135-160 (87 - 103.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Cause like

I love Paonite

[solid frigate]

also i don't think i see Ogerpon run that-

[shadow wind]

Was for reference

Considering my Dnite did 90%

Lotta invest regardless

[cyan smelt]

Oh yeah I forgot about espeed dnite and chien Pao

[shadow wind]

What is tera ghost Shifu even for?

[cyan smelt]

Fake out?

[shadow wind]

I guess?

I mean I always target the Torn anyway

[shadow wind]

Yeah people like Entei now

[cyan smelt]

Entei faster

[shadow wind]

How does speed matter when they both use Espeed

And dnite hits way harder

[cyan smelt]

No idea, maybe entei is bulkier

[shadow wind]

AND dnite resists Urshifu Rapid stabs

[cyan smelt]

Can run av

[shadow wind]

That's why I use it anyway

Ice spinner Urshifu is in my nightmares

But hey

9-0 right now, Groudon has been cooking

Also Dragonite is bulkier than Entei

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2256345677-6obney2gsjrd2lgfi6s3run9sdfx3v2pw i cannot believe that happened

[shadow wind]

Dragonite has a higher BST too 😭

[molten oasis]

that read on the miraidon

[solid frigate]

i lost to that guy cuz i did not preserve my mons

[molten oasis]

i sacced zac figuring pao could win the game

[solid frigate]

but he lose his Miraidon a lot more often if you said you OHKO Miraidon in switch in

[shadow wind]

Miraidon always lead against Groudon 😔

[solid frigate]

cuz i fucking obliterated his Miraidon turn 1 iirc

[solid frigate]

i just lead Hearthflame whims lol

[shadow wind]

And shockingly the Ground restricted is really bad against the Electric restricted

[shadow wind]

That lead also sucks for me

[molten oasis]

i draco'ed into hearthflame figuring i needed damage on it to win the game and then uh, yea that happened

wiped his restricted off the board

[shadow wind]

But flutter with Groudon can usually pin a Miraidon

[solid frigate]

how did he did that mistake twice

TO US OUT OF ALL PEOPLE

[molten oasis]

i think i baited him when i clicked volt switch

[shadow wind]

I do NOT want to play against this bruh

[molten oasis]

LMAO

[shadow wind]

I know my luck

[molten oasis]

ITS BACK

[cyan smelt]

Nice read with the Miraidon switch in

[solid frigate]

i just point blank murder it

[molten oasis]

i think in my head i was like "im fine here if he surging strikes zac" and then forgot its sashed and stellar lol

[shadow wind]

And I lost