#competitive_discussion

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spiral ridge
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i just meant searching for runs were roughhh

rustic mountain
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yea

spiral ridge
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without a path it was like 30% success rate

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and it took a while to find paths as i said

rustic mountain
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yea lunala is not one u can just clear w/o a good path

cyan smelt
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can't find a consistent team, maybe i should just give up on reg h

rustic mountain
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cant build or cant find?

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cuz theres plenty of consistent teams out there

cyan smelt
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can't build, connor's team is good

rustic mountain
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use a good team idk y its build or nothing for so many ppl here

cyan smelt
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i'll just use connor's team then ig

red blade
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hey guys, I'm curious, is maushold currently banned in doubles? I can't figure out why it would be

rustic mountain
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no?

red blade
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oh wait I'm trippin. It's cuz maushold and creamie both have sash on KEKW

craggy dagger
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nope!
maushold is not-
well
kinda?
kings rock maushold is banned but maushold itself is not

craggy dagger
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ya
kings rock maushold isn’t usable in vgc is it not?

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oh nvm

spiral ridge
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😭

cyan smelt
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yeah i'm scrapping this shitty team

mint void
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F

lone spindle
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Controversial topic is Greninja a better haze user than Murkrow

knotty mirage
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Not really sure about that especially when clicking haze will turn greninja into ice type assuming it have protean

spiral ridge
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prankster. murk better

lone spindle
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Running something like taunt on Gren and having a faster haze Mon with a priority move sounds threatening

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Give it loaded dice or even better band

knotty mirage
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Scarf haze ?

lone spindle
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Blah

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I meant sash

spiral ridge
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whats your topic here man 😭

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which are you saying is better

lone spindle
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Frog

spiral ridge
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because it can taunt?

lone spindle
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I’m failing to see why prankster is so valuable

spiral ridge
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it gives prio to haze, meaning itll go before taunt

knotty mirage
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It's prio status move it's like really valuable

spiral ridge
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priority is super fucking valuable in this game, its like speed, thats why prio moves like sucker punch and anti prio like farigiraf and psychic terrain are used so much

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grassy glide to get rid of urshis cus theyre naturally faster

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haze before the enemy dozogiri can attack cus its faster becuase youre ina higher prio bracket

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its invaluable

lone spindle
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I understand what priority is. My debate is that most Pokémon you’re looking to use haze on don’t use priority moves. Dondozo, the bridge mon

spiral ridge
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and greninja is meant for attacking (and is bad at that)

spiral ridge
lone spindle
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Mm I hear ya. Maybe that base speed is enough? Plus running sash

spiral ridge
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lets take peli arch, they have tw up from peli and its a electroshot into your greninja, you likely cant haze in time cus thats gonna fucking hurt, with murk that doesnt matter at all

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greninja just sadly isnt good

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here

lone spindle
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Mm I see

spiral ridge
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if you want a haze water mon that isnt speed, primarina

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plus its also water starter

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but be careful cus sneasler fucking hurts her

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usually runs either sitrus berry or throat spray or mistical water p sure

lone spindle
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No I really don’t care I’ve just seen Crow go to the side recently and be very match dependent

spiral ridge
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krow has just afllen off in usage lately

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and other haze options are being used

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ive seen dnite be a haze mon because it gets speed from scale shot, does actual damage and uses unlike greninja

lone spindle
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I was thinking of having dnite on my double dragon core but Hydra fits better

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Just trying to find a utility Mon with haze

cyan smelt
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connor's team is easy to use, i see why he climbed so high with it

spiral ridge
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all i can say is theres much better choices than greninja lol

boreal mauveBOT
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Haze
Base Power:

G-max Power:

Accuracy:

Category

status Status

Type:

ice Ice

Power Points (PP)

30

Priority:

0

In-Game Desciption:

The user creates a haze that eliminates every stat
change among all the Pokémon engaged in battle.

Technical Description:

Removes stat, accuracy, and evasion modifiers from every Pokémon on the field.

This does not count as a stat reduction for the purposes of clear body or white smoke.

Other Properties:

Does not make Contact
Not affected by Protect
Not affected by Magic Coat
Not affected by Snatch
Not affected by Mirror Move
Not affected by King's Rock

lone spindle
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Who would you use?

spiral ridge
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if i NEEDED one, prim dnite or murk

knotty mirage
mint void
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Yes

spiral ridge
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tw is uhhh in a weird spot

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sacramento

mint void
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Bunch of cotton balls. Little amount of ravens

spiral ridge
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talonflame jumpluff corvi and peli

knotty mirage
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Oh yeah forgot about talonflame

mint void
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Whims feels ass ngl. TF is better imo cause u arent useless after TW. Whims just does no dmg

spiral ridge
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since lots of stuff is balance cores you dont need the prio speed as much

mint void
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Yeah

spiral ridge
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and taunt

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if you need damage yeah TF

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whimsi rn with sneasler hitting for 4X just always under pressure

mint void
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But sometimes the opponent doesnt give u encore opportunities. Like im dont really wanna lock the Basculegion into wave crash. That doesn't do anything

strange fjord
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when they encore your Fake Out: fallen

knotty mirage
mint void
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I mostly just get encores into protect. Or once iron defense

strange fjord
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Encore means they can't Protect in front of you

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or set up

spiral ridge
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unless its like KG

strange fjord
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Or Gholdengo lol

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or Farigiraf

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or Indeedee

lone spindle
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This is what I have so far double dragon core balance

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My thoughts for the # 6 Mon are a haze Mon or porygon2 for reverse trickroom

spiral ridge
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honestly

cyan smelt
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This is like the worst time to get a creative block

spiral ridge
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either those or a follow me mon like electa could be good

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magmar and will o wisp a dozo

lone spindle
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Buzz sounds cool

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Will o wisp a dozo?

knotty mirage
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Is clefairy still used as follow me support in this reg or it's only good on reg H because electric terrain everywhere ?

spiral ridge
cyan smelt
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If it doesn't kill you with wave crash first

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That's something to calc for

spiral ridge
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very true

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id recc a tera so your magmar doesnt get fucking eviscerated

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if you do go it

cyan smelt
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Gotta watch out for peli arch too when using magmar and sand

knotty mirage
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So that's the reason people prefer to use electabuzz over magmar it doesn't need to worry about peli arch

lone spindle
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Got walled by that too many times @cyan smelt

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What is a better item for Chomp, life orb or choice band

cyan smelt
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Lorb because then you can protect

cyan smelt
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At the start of the reg on showdown I was having decent success with farig blursa, maybe I should revisit

rugged kayak
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Anyone wanna battle

mint void
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Where

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And what

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@rugged kayak

rugged kayak
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Scarlet violet ?

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Thts all I use

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I have brilliant diamond too tho

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@mint void

mint void
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Ok what format/ruleset?

rugged kayak
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Doubles?

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N doesn’t matter bout rules

mint void
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Not home so cant SV rn but others know then.

rugged kayak
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Wym?

mint void
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I do not have a console at hand to play the game.
But the others here in the chat now know what exactly you are trying to do.

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@rugged kayak whats your team tho?

rugged kayak
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Oh what am I tryna do loool I’m just tryna battle 😭

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I don’t rlly b playin like tht

cyan smelt
cyan smelt
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great now i'm struggling with connor's team

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who tf runs tera flying arch

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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ig

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i wish i could come up with a good team

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That whims beat up into tera flying arch with peli was super clever

solid frigate
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i really like Tera Ghost Archa

cyan smelt
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What about fairy

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Maybe I should give blursa and farig a go again

cyan smelt
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Nah I'm gonna stop building and use something established like tree said

mighty stump
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Or

bold geode
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@mighty stump I need some fuckin help bro lmao

chrome knot
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gm tofu

mighty stump
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Gm Emma

mighty stump
bold geode
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No

chrome knot
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found out like the funniest thing last night

bold geode
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I'm trying to get this Palkia shit out the way and I got two dumbass ideas lol

mighty stump
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Why are you using Palkia

chrome knot
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irl friend im team building with for toronto is 2011s Junior WC

mighty stump
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Oh sick lol

bold geode
mighty stump
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Nope

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Extra Nope

bold geode
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Well I did a poll like "which restricted should I use"
And I complained to you and said I'll use Rayquaza for a simple reason

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Palkia won
And I did it across multiple servers and I'm a man of my word lmao

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So plz for the love of God help me
I'm literally just needing something for one tour to play then imma throw it out on Twitter, that's it lmao

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I was thinking of running it with Gravity lmao

mighty stump
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I mean Gravity is your best bet

bold geode
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Does Gravity help Bleakwind actually?

mighty stump
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Palkia so bad

bold geode
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Like does Gravity make Bleakwind more accurate

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If so like shit I know I got Sandy Shocks so I guess TW Torn can't hurt there actually hol up

mighty stump
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Why wouldn’t it lol

bold geode
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Idk how fuckin Gravity works KekHands

mighty stump
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Google

bold geode
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This just makes me not use Yanmega ok lmao

mighty stump
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Its a general accuracy increase + Grounds units

bold geode
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Oh I forgot about the Grounding part

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Thx for reminding me of that I would've EQ'd tf outta Torn
Also yes we're turbo bear lmao

bold geode
mighty stump
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i guess but feels like yuo just lose to Kyogre

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Lol

bold geode
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I'm literally sticking my hand in a porta potty, stirring the shit around and calling it "cooking"
I'm open to ANYTHING rn

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Was thinking either Wellspring or like
Run fuckin dual weather lmao

mighty stump
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I'm really not poke brained atm lol

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I'm kinda tired and I just found out my mom's in the hospital

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I'm gonna go chill

bold geode
dull ibex
tiny peak
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Would a rayquaza vgc team for January be viable for switch ranked battles to master? I saw a cool team with like roaring moon tailwind, chien pao, rilla, etc.

balmy glen
tiny peak
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@balmy glen alright, anything I need to consider to beat opposing legends? I know ray isn't the best without his mega

balmy glen
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then easily go off from there with what you think you need in each mu

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if your playing to just have fun/tryout some anti meta/non meta stuff I’d definitely build meta first

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I do think rillaboom/amoongus is kind of needed as the next option just so you can cover the miraidon mu and allow ice spinner mind games or just use icicle crash with choice banded rilla if your using rilla

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This helps cover for Weather with Ray/Terrain with amoongus Chien or Chien Rilla

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then you fill from there

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If you need help deciding on what to use from there lemme know

tiny peak
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@balmy glen ok I will, I saw one youtube team that was cool it was clear amulet ray/Roaring Moon tailwind/gholdengo/incineroar/rilla/chien pao

placid mist
next stump
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you could consider something like primarina to round out the fire/water/grass defensive core and give you another special attacker

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in general, I don't think the team as it stands really benefits a lot from tailwind

placid mist
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like just a standard throat spray set is good?

next stump
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yeah, that's where I would start. You could also swap Gholdengo's item and give Prim life orb

placid mist
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should I give him metal coat

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and prim lorb

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Thanks for the idea imma test that out see how it feels

next stump
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you're welcome, and yes those items work

spiral ridge
molten oasis
rustic mountain
bold geode
molten oasis
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Just, don’t use it for content

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Torturing yourself for content isnt a good way to put yourself out there

bold geode
molten oasis
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I really hope you’re not that

bold geode
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Nah
I'm not rich

molten oasis
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Then don’t play Palkia yanmega

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Just play the ray stuff

spiral ridge
bold geode
molten oasis
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Good, now don’t play Palkia

bold geode
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It's just gonna be once

rustic mountain
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funny even w/ new forms palkia and dialga are still mid

molten oasis
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“Just once” suffers for 1 team

rustic mountain
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kyogre and groudon get new forms: instantly become vgc staples that centralize the surrounding meta around them
palkia and dialga get new forms: less useage of them now possibly then ever before and they have 0 impact on the meta

torn parrot
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I might be a dog in my next life

rustic mountain
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🤨

chrome knot
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@spiral ridge wanna be hurt

spiral ridge
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Uh
Elaborate?

chrome knot
spiral ridge
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Why am I being hurt for this magisweat

chrome knot
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i iv'd a 0spe bear :3

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thas allll

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people usually reset a shit ton for it, I just needed low atk

spiral ridge
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Ohh I see

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lol

dense latch
foggy lodge
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Tera bug Blursa 100%

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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nova I did a moral bad

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
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valid

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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my gholdengo is a prozac addiction…

spiral ridge
bold geode
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||Good as Gold||

chrome knot
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nono hes addicted and thats what makes him feel as Good as Gold

molten oasis
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I’ve figured out how to manage incin

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That jab didn’t need to happen man

bold geode
mint void
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@gentle badger Jo, About your Urshifu issue. If you have the Sword/Shield DLC and the S/V DLC you have 2 kubfu

dull ibex
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@bold geodemore like dollaridiot

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gottem

solid frigate
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haha gottem ggs

rustic mountain
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unless u mean regular dialga and then in 2 restricted itll prolly b ight

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but the fact u give a mon like that a new form and it still isnt good is jus funny to me

solid frigate
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2 restricteds would definitely make Dialga good

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same with Palkia

rustic mountain
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u hav to consider everything gets better in dual restricted including the already strong restricteds for single

next stump
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it’s honestly hard to see what dialga will bring to the table

rustic mountain
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palkias only good if ogre is

next stump
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you’d wanna run it on a TR team so maybe caly-ice + dialga

craggy dagger
next stump
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but i think caly ice would probably want miraidon more

craggy dagger
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but like with the popularity of zama skyrocketing it’ll be hard ti play

rustic mountain
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all the way

solid frigate
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it depends

next stump
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for the sleep immunity and ability to threaten water types

craggy dagger
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oh that’s true

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can’t be spored when trick room

solid frigate
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Why do I suddenly against playing CIR even tho its good

rustic mountain
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huh

craggy dagger
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oh
why are you suddenly against running cir?

rustic mountain
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why are u suddenly against playing cir even tho its good? idk ud hav to ask urself that if thats wat u mean

solid frigate
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I dont want to play CIR miraidon lol

craggy dagger
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-# bingo

solid frigate
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I love Mirai but idk if i want to play CIR

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i mean it makes me have an Excuse to fully invest in Iron Hands

chrome knot
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cir is goat

craggy dagger
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it’d be funny if the calyrex’s weren’t in the next generation and instead the box arts of generation 10 had calyrex level broken YangyangStare

next stump
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ice rider is the most fun I had

chrome knot
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this

next stump
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nothing like getting a lance double KO

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actual crack

rustic mountain
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there will b other strong partners u dont necessarily have to but to deny urself outright playing potentially 1 of the strongest cores just because is weird to me

craggy dagger
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ice rider is fun tohruStronk

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though i kinda do prefer playing shadow rider YangyangStare

next stump
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screens kyogre also very fun but you have to play the origin pulse lottery

chrome knot
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nothing like living korai flare blitz in sun and revenge killing with lance for game

solid frigate
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if i get a Single CIR OHKO with Iron Crown in birmingham regionals i will die peacefully

craggy dagger
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ice rider is basically instant dopamine

bold geode
# rustic mountain eh i jus dont see it

I mean both forms
I mean it's got like maybe a couple qualities going for it but that doesn't work for it cuz other restricted have like
Dialga has 2 things, other restricted have at least 3

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 483: Dialga
Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/120/120/150/100/90

Total

680

Other Formes

Dialga-Origin

rustic mountain
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yea jus the fact it gets outclassed by quite a few other mons i find it hard to justify taking up a slot

craggy dagger
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that’s….
oddly bulkier than i remember

solid frigate
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Just buff Giratina Copium

rustic mountain
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yea it has good bulk

craggy dagger
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i thought it had more offense-

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 483: Dialga-Origin
Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/120/150/120/90

Total

680

Base Species

Dialga

rustic mountain
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150 sp atk is very good

solid frigate
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it has Pretty decent Bulk

But dies to Koraidon

craggy dagger
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90 base speed is nice though-
fits well in both speed field control methods

rustic mountain
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its more jus awkward speed stat for restricted + no broken move and abilities being kinda meh

craggy dagger
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yeah that’s fair

craggy dagger
solid frigate
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I don’t really Use ROT when i use Dialga

I just use Draco

craggy dagger
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remember that underneath the right conditions, korai can just break through tera shell

rustic mountain
solid frigate
rustic mountain
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nd then ur -2 and likely gta switch, lose a shit ton of momentum and then ur opponent prolly just rolls u

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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lmao wait what

molten oasis
solid frigate
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Miraidon can Legitimately OHKO pagos in Tera Shell

molten oasis
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Detected reg g talk

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It’s miraidon

solid frigate
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i tried that before with Miraidon when i was using Rajan’s formula

foggy lodge
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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Sword of Ruin Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 196 HP / 12 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Grassy Terrain: 172-203 (88.2 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

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Don't bother trying to get rif of the terrain btw

solid frigate
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didn’t tofu once said about Miraidon can OHKO Tera Shell Pagos

foggy lodge
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252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 196 HP / 12 Def Terapagos-Stellar in Grassy Terrain: 260-306 (100 - 117.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

solid frigate
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Wait who runs CB Rilla

foggy lodge
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me

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that thing is still good

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Don't think Latios Goltres Zama is dead

solid frigate
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I mean its not dead is just

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everyone is using MDB Build most likely

torn parrot
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BYA

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BEYASAAAAAAAASASAAAA

solid frigate
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first the bikes and now this

torn parrot
potent coyote
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barely, but this is not practical, at all

maiden elk
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What’s the better nature for armorouge

chrome knot
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adamant :D

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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Impish :3

bold geode
craggy dagger
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Though tbh, my favourite is Gentle

solid frigate
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Gentle is Speed Drop and then what

cyan smelt
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people are now scale shotting into archaludon

solid frigate
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Reg H in the Nutshell

craggy dagger
tiny karmaBOT
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Nature: Gentle
Boosted

Special Defence

Lowered

Defence

solid frigate
placid mist
foggy lodge
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No

solid frigate
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Why would you want to drop sneasler in the first place

placid mist
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I might ditch the whole team and make a new one around Garchomp

solid frigate
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I really wanna ask is it for the Lyco Tournament-

rustic mountain
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rilla w/ chomp is kinda weird

solid frigate
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or is it just experimenting

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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u generally want to get to a point u can eq grassy terrain kinda doesnt synergize w/ that

rustic mountain
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stomping is fine but u generally want atleast the option to click eq at points

solid frigate
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exactly thats the point of losing it

rustic mountain
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🤨

solid frigate
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why am i speaking weird stuff today-

rustic mountain
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like ur saying that is the tradeoff?

solid frigate
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idk what i want to say rn lol

Like if you want to use Rillla and Chomp together then sacrifice EQ

So yeah Tradeoff kinda

rustic mountain
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yea i jus dont see it as a good tradeoff

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ur better either leaning into having terrain or ways to deal w/ it to make it not as big of a factor for ur ground type to click eq

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same objective w/ like sand teams and excadrill

solid frigate
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I mean at this point just keep sneasler

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idk why you want to forfeit Sneasler for a Mon that does not synergise well with Rilla

torn parrot
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My brain is fuzzy

chrome knot
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i don’t have a brain

cyan smelt
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Is overqwil any good

rustic mountain
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not really, i used it on one of my variations of rain a month and a half ago i think. even then it wasnt doing too much i feel the way the metas gone its even less effective

cyan smelt
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Damn so basculegion is basically a better swift swimmer in every way

rustic mountain
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i mean as a swift swim mon? for sure

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i was using it as an intimidate mon

shadow wind
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I mean it has a really good typing

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Access to moves like haze

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It's not the worst mon in the world but right now its niche is pretty much non existent

cyan smelt
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Maybe it'll be better in reg g v2 against stuff like caly s

shadow wind
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Acid spray was cool

mighty stump
lofty tartan
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I believe Lycopocky or whoever runs a tournament on Limitless. Probably what they're referring to

bold geode
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It's called add Wide Guard Mienshao and fuckin pray LMAO

molten oasis
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-8ball should monke build with Palkia

gentle cragBOT
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should monke build with Palkia
:8ball: Yes

molten oasis
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@bold geode another bot confirmed it

bold geode
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👍

molten oasis
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Palkia cool

mighty stump
bold geode
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Well fuck it we gonna go with it

mighty stump
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So I found out my mom's doctor's suspect Chikungunya Virus which thankfully isn't super serious

bold geode
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How tf do you pronounce that

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And what is it

mighty stump
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Mosquito-transmiitted virus that causes similar symptoms to Dengue

bold geode
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As I Google it lmao

mighty stump
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lol

bold geode
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Oof

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This is literally like if mosquitoes gave you flu wtf

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Aight let's try this again

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@mighty stump if you want to talk mons for a sec, I was thinking about using Terapagos in a Japanese ladder tour and was wondering what your thoughts on it are, like should i run CM or Specs and what i should do

bold geode
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Palkia team now locked in for tour, no turning back now

cyan smelt
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Gl monke

torn parrot
rustic mountain
torn parrot
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He’s gonna hit every hydro pump

strange fjord
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Crit half the Spacial Rends too

mighty stump
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Im mixed about CM but I like the CoCloak stuff generally

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PHerb also still on my list

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But I know thats not everyones cup of tea

cyan smelt
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Kinda want to do something with skeledirge yawn and maybe curse and stealth rocks

mighty stump
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Seems like a very slow build

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For Reg H?

cyan smelt
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yes

molten oasis
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I meant reg g oops, reg h I still think that’s gonna be kind of rough to get going

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 911: Skeledirge
Types

Fire/Ghost

Abilities

Blaze, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

104/75/100/110/75/66

Total

530

molten oasis
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I’d argue it’s not quite bulky enough to do that tbh

cyan smelt
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dozo?

knotty mirage
mighty stump
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Guess who got two of the Venu promos in 9 packs

dull ibex
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@mighty stump Tofu do you like automation in games? If yes I found a cute game

molten oasis
mighty stump
dull ibex
molten oasis
#

Oh cool

spiral ridge
dull ibex
#

Factorio is too complex

spiral ridge
#

yeah it is

cyan smelt
#

is fairy tera gholdengo becoming more common?

knotty mirage
#

Maybe i'm still seeing people use steel tera dhengo more at least

plain drum
#

The people involved with Factorio are fucking weird

cyan smelt
#

I feel like fairy might be picking up to deal with kingambit, sneasler and ttar

spiral ridge
#

fucking uhh the 3D one where you build a rocket or some shit then

cyan smelt
#

Interesting, glimmora learns sand tomb and stealth rock, it could work if I used sand tomb to keep them from switching then yawn

mighty stump
#

You want something tanky and long-lasting

#

SRocks and trapping also is counter intuitive

cyan smelt
#

I'm thinking about trapping and yawn

mighty stump
#

Additionally your yawn + trapper needs Protect

balmy glen
#

Sounds like a DOU thing more than a VGC thing

mighty stump
#

I dare u

cyan smelt
#

Yeah probably not viable as it's not doing a lot of damage

mighty stump
dull ibex
#

vc?

dull ibex
solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

@balmy glen sorry for ping, are you keanuvgc in showdown chat or different keanu

balmy glen
#

who are u on sd

cyan smelt
#

same as here

solid frigate
#

da goat

real prairie
#

@solid frigate heard anything on B'ham yet?

bold geode
#

@rustic mountain @mighty stump brother Palkia is mid AF lol

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Though deadass almost went 6-4 with it cuz 3 games I almost won
But alas
3-7 KekHands

cyan smelt
#

Unlucky monke

solid frigate
bold geode
cyan smelt
#

Why did you decide to use Palkia and was it origin or regular

real prairie
solid frigate
real prairie
#

Have to use RK9 right?

bold geode
#

I almost went 6-4 so

real prairie
#

I'm registered 🎉

cyan smelt
#

Gl at Birmingham

bold geode
#

I'm typing up the doc and posting on Twitter, glad to have that out the way

rustic mountain
next stump
#

gl birmingham gamers

cyan smelt
#

Next use Mewtwo

rustic mountain
#

regional this weekend?

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man reg h has been stacked i feel like w/ irls

cyan smelt
#

I think I'll go to Perth and just use Connor's team

next stump
#

yeah we got stuggart this weekend

real prairie
#

Can you get spectators passes for regionals?

rustic mountain
#

yes

next stump
#

yes you can, on RK9

cyan smelt
#

Yep

real prairie
#

Cool, was thinking for my fam

next stump
#

there's not a ton to do but if they're a pokemon fan, they will find activities

cyan smelt
#

It's expensive to fly to Perth but I think it'll be good experience

#

Not too many regionals in Australia

rustic mountain
#

yea even less this year then usual iirc

cyan smelt
#

They got rid of ocic

rustic mountain
#

yea

cyan smelt
#

And they don't even stream Australian regionals, ig it's too expensive for them

bold geode
bold geode
#

I only used Palkia to get it out the way

cyan smelt
#

Why do you deliberately handicap yourself

rustic mountain
bold geode
solid frigate
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
bold geode
cyan smelt
#

I remember losing to a skill swap contrary Rayquaza with overheat and dragon ascent

tiny karmaBOT
#
Move: V-create

Lowers the user's Speed, Defense, and Special Defense by 1 stage.

Type

Fire

Category

Physical

Power

180

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

bold geode
#

I kinda wish Rayquaza still had this

cyan smelt
#

It would be broken

bold geode
#

Yeah but I'm tired of Steel types KekHands

cyan smelt
#

Try overheat contrary

bold geode
#

I also hate mixed attacked Ray

cyan smelt
#

Tera fire

bold geode
#

Like that one Meteor Beam Rayquaza
I hate it

bold geode
cyan smelt
#

No wisp

bold geode
#

Resist Ice and Fairy and also no Wisp or Sacred Fire burns

cyan smelt
#

If I see ray I'm automatically gonna assume it's tera fire

bold geode
#

Nah Tera Normal is more common

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For Extreme Speed boosts

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I just don't want to setup Ray to only get shut down cuz Entei rolled right

cyan smelt
#

What's the burn chance with sacred fire

tiny karmaBOT
#
Move: Sacred Fire

Has a 50% chance to burn the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

cyan smelt
#

Damn that's a really good move

#

And entei has inner focus too

craggy dagger
#

yup

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what’s supposed to be ho-oh signature move

pallid hare
#

sacred fire

torn parrot
#

I did a quick little masterball climb before the season ended

#

Feels gud to get it out of the way

#

I havnt missed a season yet

dull ibex
#

Hello everyone

wise radish
#

What good teams are there with iron hands for raids

next stump
craggy dagger
wise radish
#

I’m told to go every where

next stump
#

competitive is specifically for PVP battles, not raids

#

tera strategy is the place to go

wise radish
#

Somebody told me to go here

next stump
#

well they were wrong

craggy dagger
#

it’s just not the right channel n we don’t wanna clog up the specific channel too much SuzuHeart

bold geode
craggy dagger
potent coyote
#

Anyone playing in Nino’s GS Cup tournament tomorrow?

next stump
#

I was thinking about it, it sounds fun

#

are you?

potent coyote
#

Yes

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I have my team but I’m still unsure about some things

#

Gonna play the practice tournament today to see if I need to change anything for tomorrow

next stump
#

do you have a pokepaste for the team?

chrome knot
solid frigate
#

bro is spontaneously Combusted

craggy dagger
potent coyote
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

LONG LIVE ZAMAZENTA

solid frigate
#

TOP 5 ALL OF THEM???

craggy dagger
knotty mirage
opal hill
#

Hey, short question I need to Build a team who can play against ten friends. But it’s not that simple I need to use three Pokémon : Umbreon, Mimikyu, Espeon

I need to build around them, which Pokémon could I use ? And which stats/moves should they have ? Could someone help

next stump
#

its going to be tough to find help here for that since most people here play official battles and also the double battle format, and im guessing this is for singles as well

opal hill
#

It’s for both

dense latch
#

building for singles and doubles is very different

next stump
#

so you build a team of 6 that has to contain those 3 pokemon? also this ^

opal hill
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The winner gets it

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And I want to win 😂😂

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We pulled three random Pokémon and have to build around them

next stump
#

can you use any pokemon

opal hill
#

Yes any

#

We do BO3 in single and in double
The final is a BO5

dense latch
#

so can you just round off the team with mythicals and legendaries?

opal hill
#

Yes I think so, wait I ask them

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They said only one

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Only one legendary ore mythical

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But, all of us made a new account and have time until the 6. December to build, lvl and train the team

solid frigate
#

this ruleset is just-

opal hill
#

Yeah I mean we are not competitive at all, that’s why I’m hear 😂

solid frigate
#

don't worry

#

i seen worse

opal hill
#

I’m very sorry to bother u guys 🙏

dense latch
#

so how is it split between singles and doubles? do you play the same opponent twice in each format?

dense latch
solid frigate
#

i would recommend you build 2 teams

dense latch
opal hill
#

It is

dense latch
#

and you can use one legendary and one mythical?

opal hill
#

Nah, ore

dense latch
#

alright

#

that’s probably the starting point

opal hill
#

Wait a sec 😂

#

I just started a new account

#

How do I get a Legi so fast

dense latch
#

lmao you have to play through the whole game? that’s an interesting rule

opal hill
#

Yes , we all had to

#

I have an eevee lvl 18
And eevvee on lvl 9 😂

spiral ridge
solid frigate
solid frigate
opal hill
dense latch
#

yeah it gets some good supporting moves, yawn, moonlight, snarl, foul play

opal hill
#

How do I make my evee to an ambreon again 🥲

#

In the night right ?

#

But wait, which stat is important on ambreon

#

I’d like to send u a picture of my Eevee where can I send it ?

solid frigate
#

if you have image perms then anywhere

opal hill
#

Nope 🥲

solid frigate
#

idk not really

#

just talk a bit or just describe the spread or something

opal hill
#

I have a better idea 😂 I go in a call an make cam on

#

So

#

Wich stats does my umbreon

dense latch
#

HP Defense and Special Defense

#

what’s the nature on it?

solid frigate
opal hill
solid frigate
#

Oh fu-

opal hill
solid frigate
solid frigate
#

i forgot i haven't grinded for a while

dense latch
#

i wish this was just on showdown it would make things much easier

solid frigate
#

exactly

dense latch
#

trying to build a competitive team on a fresh account is hard

#

just feels inconvenient for no reason

opal hill
solid frigate
opal hill
solid frigate
# opal hill Yea 😂

at this point you could use any

But which Legendary or Mythical you want to use? You did say that before

opal hill
#

Nah

solid frigate
#

eh i mean the remaining 3 kinda depends on your choice

dense latch
#

ig you’d probably want to use the box legendary

#

korai/miraidon

opal hill
#

But what do I need 😂

#

Don’t I need a tank ore something like that 😂

solid frigate
craggy dagger
dense latch
solid frigate
polar canyon
#

The tcg pocket memes are like some kinda strange riddle

#

Is that how non competitive players feel looking at vgc memes

#

Are misty articuno decks like the archaludon + pelipper of tcg

craggy dagger
#

i meannnn
yes but no?
archapeli isn’t as gambl-y as misty articuno

bold geode
whole ibex
#

Was Gholdengo relevant in Reg G? I’m guess no but I wanna check

potent coyote
#

kind of

#

ther ewas a 2-2-2 dondozo team that t8 worlds with gholdengo on it

#

and it was used on ice rider compositions

whole ibex
#

Mainly cause I have some shiny 0 attack Gimmeghouls that Im thinking of trading for to get some shiny legendaries or 0 attack or 0 speed CalyRex mons.

next stump
#

Gholdengo was solid, not as dominant as now but especially at the first few regionals it had good placements

#

I used it at Indy and got Top 32 and there were a lot of other ones above or near me

#

I’m not sure though if a shiny 0ATK would have the same value as a shiny legendary, depends on the person I suppose

whole ibex
honest ravine
#

Which move should i get on my delphox : mystical fire or fire blast
(My other moves are psychic,sunny day, magic room)

next stump
#

what type of battles are you playing, single or doubles?

balmy glen
mint void
solid frigate
#

do you mean Trick Room?

bold geode
#

@balmy glen Mr Zamazenta man I gotta ask you a question

balmy glen
#

what

bold geode
# balmy glen what

So idk if you know or not
But on stream, I noticed both Aaron Zheng and Michael Kelsch ran 4 HP EVs on Entei
Do you think they would run max max Entei or is it some weird bulk?

potent coyote
bold geode
#

Maybe

dense latch
balmy glen
#

Can’t say much

bold geode
#

Damn
Once again the sauce is hidden lol

#

I can't even tell from the stream cuz all they did was either E Speed or die lmao

#

The world may never know chat

balmy glen
#

You’ll know towards the end of reg g ig lol

bold geode
#

Lmao ok

foggy lodge
#

I remember my Entei spread living life orb Bloodmoon

#

But i don't think they were max max Entei has a lot of HP so its better to invest in its defenses to get bulk

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 244: Entei
Type

Fire

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/115/85/90/75/100

Total

580

solid frigate
#

hoi

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

😊

solid frigate
#

B R U H HOW LOL

molten oasis
#

I wanna see that calc

craggy dagger
#

36+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Entei: 191-226 (86 - 101.8%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

#

252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 124 HP / 172 SpD Entei: 179-212 (86.8 - 102.9%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

#

entei is quite hp bulky

chrome knot
#

hi spaghetti blobmelt

bold geode
rustic mountain
bold geode
craggy dagger
tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 623: Golurk
Types

Ground/Ghost

Abilities

Iron Fist, Klutz, No Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

89/124/80/55/80/55

Total

483

chrome knot
open rock
craggy dagger
bold geode
rustic mountain
#

fair

bold geode
#

I'll admit there ARE better options

rustic mountain
#

whose qualifying off a grassroots tho?

#

oh u mean cts bo1 in general

#

yea im not saying dont test shit out either

chrome knot
#

i so cold bruh

foggy lodge
#

im going to stick with Miraidon

#

Decided, until i find another Zama team

rustic mountain
craggy dagger
bold geode
#

Also I was just stating that I did better than I thought cuz I only thought there was like 65 people in these things
And 29/65 is not as big as 29/150+

foggy lodge
#

Msybe Michael's team from Worlds or something like Tytar Zamazenta cuz i like the Tytar pick

craggy dagger
#

it’s cold and wet here RappaDead
never snows

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
#

Tytar + Life Orb Latios cooks

chrome knot
#

yathinkkkkk

rustic mountain
bold geode
chrome knot
#

tree ive gone too far with the prep bit

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

michigan friend is driving to Canada to pick me up, then drive us back through the border for a double header in michigan

rustic mountain
#

prepping is a bit? PB_shock

chrome knot
#

and then driving me back home after

rustic mountain
chrome knot
#

much needed toronto prep tbfamegablobsweats

#

balance is so fucking hard to learn

rustic mountain
#

yea

#

once u get it tho

craggy dagger
#

true

chrome knot
#

they keep saying once it clicks youll never look back

rustic mountain
#

honestly, tru

craggy dagger
#

balans is adddicting-

chrome knot
bold geode
craggy dagger
rustic mountain
#

i do some ho on occasion maybe a tr hybrid but yea honestly once i got balance i mainly jus play that now, ofc theres always room for improvement still

craggy dagger
#

windbreakers don’t help against the cold
they help against the
wind

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

yea like if im doin well w/ an ho team im gna stick w/ it

#

i jus find eventually i always wind up back on balance

craggy dagger
#

i think the one thing i can never get right in balance teams is the speed control RappaDead

rustic mountain
#

yea that can be tricky

craggy dagger
#

prolly one of the more important ones to actually know robin_wheeze

rustic mountain
#

usually i have non prankster tw or like some kinda icy wind/e webs. for cir team in reg g it was having tr

#

jus depends really

#

if u play it well enough sometimes u dont even need it (depending on the opposing team) cuz generally ur gna be taking more favorable trades and have that switching capability that those kinda teams lack

bold geode
tiny peak
#

What evs should a swords dance e speed rayquaza alongside roaring moon tailwind have and what nature?

bold geode
#

Like Heatran/Urshifu/Amoongus/Hands/Scarf Landot/and Specs Mane just like ooooh
Felt so good

bold geode
tiny peak
#

@bold geode no worries will have coverage for that just asking the evs for ray thank you

gentle cragBOT
bold geode
#

Oh well I ain't giving mine out lol
Confidential info

tiny peak
#

@bold geode ok didn't ask you specifically, I asked in general, not everyone is great with ev spreads

craggy dagger
#

i meannn
he is the ray expert from what i know-

bold geode
#

Ok and? I was just sayin
No need to get all bent outta shape

tiny peak
#

I mean you don't have to share yours personally but can help with a general spread I mean dang lol

bold geode
#

Look at pikalytics
Should have something

tiny peak
#

Can't find any online

#

Pikalytics doesn't load for me

#

It says oops something went wrong

bold geode
#

?

#

Munch stats then

tiny peak
#

There's no rayquaza stats there

#

It's set to reg h

bold geode
#

Horseshit

tiny peak
#

I've checked

bold geode
#

There should be a Reg G setting

tiny peak
#

There's no rayquaza vgc

#

I've checked, nothing reg g

#

Can you give me a link if you can find it?

bold geode
#

Man these sites are dumb AF

tiny peak
#

@bold geode did you see what I was talking about?

bold geode
#

Yeah it's fuckin dumb, shouldn't have trusted Pikalytics
@pizza.time can you have an option for other rulesets plz like Reg G thx

strange fjord
#

I can do reg g but it'll be an older usage stats. ill get it done in a bit

tiny peak
#

@strange fjord any way you can dm me when you do? I want to look at ev spreads for ray for reg g, I ask for a dm cause I got work in the morning and I'm about to go to bed

#

With a link maybe?

tiny peak
#

@bold geode I'd take it since I can't find anything 😭

chrome knot
balmy glen
#

anyone have an av miraidon spread am lazy

chrome knot
#

no im gatekeeping it

balmy glen
#

u didnt even know abt av mirai

chrome knot
chrome knot
#

o nonono

#

keanu trump supporter its overrrrr

gentle cragBOT
craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

yessss :3

craggy dagger
#

then a winter coat-????

craggy dagger
#

my brain is on the verge of collapsing i’m gonna just fade out of existence for now

molten oasis
chrome knot
strange fjord
#

Reg G back on MunchStats. Usage Stats from the month of September 2024

molten oasis
#

Pog

strange fjord
#

in case you need it for teambuilding or something

rustic mountain
#

brought a tear to my eye jordancrying

molten oasis
#

1132?

rustic mountain
#

one piece

#

chapter 1132

chrome knot
#

two piece

rustic mountain
craggy dagger
#

3 pc nuggets-

chrome knot
#

4?

molten oasis
#

Oh

torn parrot
bold geode
bold geode
chrome knot
#

ewwy

dull ibex
#

I have a 3 month nso code im never going to use and have no idea what to do with it

rustic mountain
fleet quarry
#

I'm building a psyspam team, what Tera type should I give Sneasler? Dark or Flying?

torn parrot
#

I mean that’s flexible but

#

Generally people like the throat chop coverage next to an expanding force user

molten oasis
#

dark usually

#

idt people really run flying acrobatics

gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
#

not common but its around

molten oasis
#

tera electric bear wtf

#

this format is smth else

knotty mirage
#

Now that i think about it is the reason people run tera flying acrobatic sneasler is because of urhsifu in older reg

molten oasis
#

when sneasler was niche lol

knotty mirage
#

Yeah

#

Because nowaday 90% of sneasler run tera dark sneasler can't take phsycic move really well after all

molten oasis
#

sneasler takes hits?

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

valid, still threw me off

rustic mountain
#

def not common but not too far out there

knotty mirage
#

Hmm tera bug archaludon

cyan smelt
#

damn both ursalunas are so strong

#

i think gholdengos are going tera fairy now because of gambit

torn parrot
#

I burnt myself out

cyan smelt
#

how so

foggy lodge
knotty mirage
#

Huh this regional is really something first a bug tera archaludon and now this

chrome knot
#

bug arch is not that rare

knotty mirage
#

Fair but just never really seen one in my experience pushing on ladder most of them just have either fairy or flying

#

But i guess bug could work fairy and flying tera is just sucks on mirror match

chrome knot
knotty mirage
#

Is that data for showdown ?

chrome knot
#

sacramento regional

tiny peak
#

So on a team I'm building I don't really have a counter for archaludon, I do have chien pao but was gonna run sucker punch/throat chop/ice spinner/protect, should I drop throat punch for sacred sword?

next stump
#

archaludon wasn't a massive issue in regulation G compared to now

#

let me check the usage stats

tiny peak
#

@next stump ok cool let me know

next stump
#

he had like 8 or 9% usage at the first reg G tournament, indianapolis

#

and continually fell off after that down to 0.5% at the world championship

#

ladder is a different environment so there will definitely be more, but it's not like nowadays

tiny peak
#

@next stump would it be cool to drop throat chop for sacred sword?

next stump
#

yeah as long as you can hit the calyrexs

tiny peak
#

@next stump I should be able to with sucker punch I think

#

I'll post my team later today and see if it's ok since I'm just building it for switch ladder

foggy lodge
#

Sacred sword is droppable with another fighting type imo

tiny peak
#

@foggy lodge my team is gonna be ray/Roaring moon/chien pao/rillaboom/incineroar/gholdengo

next stump
#

no need for 2 dark moves on pao if you have roaring moon and incin to hit the calyrexs

foggy lodge
#

Yeh

tiny peak
#

@next stump awesome thanks guys

gentle cragBOT
foggy lodge
#

@dense latch que Folagor va 4-1 joder SUJDKSKS

#

Primer dia 2 de Folita por favor

dense latch
#

mdb 3-3

foggy lodge
#

QUE

#

surreal el torneo de hoy

#

Malas noticias mi gente

#

Folagor 4-2

#

Ojalá no le afecte al mental esta loss, igual tiene que ganar las dos siguientes para el day 2

#

Holy fuck that's a Chandelure

bold geode
#

Is that a fucking screens Gholdengo

chrome knot
#

went omg normal jamie boyt tea- av dozo…

#

fairy blast tatsu

#

screens gholdengo

bold geode
#

@dusty gate Chandelure

dusty gate
#

👀

#

Oh it's dead instantly. Chandesadge

bold geode
#

I will keep advocating that Acrobatics Sneasler is ass

knotty mirage
#

Tbh what you want to hit with acrobatic in this reg anyway

foggy lodge
#

FOLAGOR EN STREAM

#

YOEL RAMÍREZ THE GOAT

autumn kelp
#

just waiting on pokemon a Z

foggy lodge
#

can't defend this why didn't he electro shot

bold geode
mint void
#

Yeah i know. Just sidnt get what ray was supposed to be.

mint void
knotty mirage
#

The problem is you can just hit them with dire claw making acrobatis kinda usseles

mint void
#

Not ammonguss and sinistcha. Their 2ndary typing resistst poison

#

For about everything else dire claw is better. 2 mins isnt really enough too to make it valuable.

#

Its just really niche. There are reasons people point it out if someone makes a T32 with it.
You could also argue that it makes you abke to at least hit Gholdengo with something

#

It will deal basically no dmg still

spiral ridge
#

Acrobatics can also be for fighting types

mint void
spiral ridge
#

Ape

mint void
#

There are 2 in the meta..1 is sneasler

#

Other is ape.

spiral ridge
#

I don’t think acrobatics is the best either but just saying what it can be used for

mint void
#

Idk. Its gimmicky but u have to give up fake out or protect

spiral ridge
#

Yeah

#

Def is

mint void
#

Can be good simply because no one expects it on ladder. And you still have fake out pressure.

Just is worse in VGC with team sheets available

tiny peak
#

@mint void rayquaza

craggy dagger
#

oh there’s regionals rn?

chrome knot
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yeah day 1 just ended silly

craggy dagger
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i just woke up

rustic mountain
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generally i think ud rather, coaching/protect/fake out/even throat chop over that in most cases

timber falcon
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i have almost mastered rain 🌧️

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the hike for 1800 is gonna be a pain though

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not bad

rustic mountain
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nice

umbral olive
timber falcon
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stalwart life orb archaludon

knotty mirage
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I wonder can howl zamazenta work ? i'm thinking of a team idea that i want to use next month

dense latch
umbral olive
knotty mirage
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I already have that set just want to try something different

molten oasis
torn parrot
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YORU FUCJING GOAT KING NICE JOB

dull ibex
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAMigOfBSfk I think this is one of the best constructed teams ive ever seen paired with awesome playing

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golurk sadly still sucks outside of wolfey

torn parrot
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He’s okay ):

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like he’s no ursaluna but

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He hits pretty hard

umbral olive
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I prefer cybertron zheng over wolfe🤷🤷🤷

torn parrot
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I like both their vids

umbral olive
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He needs way more than 200,000 subs. He needs 1,000,000 or more subscribers!

dull ibex
solid frigate
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i'm getting fucked

umbral olive
dull ibex
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doesnt appeal to the masses in the same way

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not that wolfe does either

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comp is niche

umbral olive
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Plus me and cybertron have the same favorite pokemon

dull ibex
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I like watching wolfe because hes one of the best ever

umbral olive
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I haven't watched wolfey a whole lot, but I like watching him battle in the official pokemon word championship fights when he competes

languid hound
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Hey I need some help if anyone would not mind I don’t really have a lot of stuff I need and need help getting/learning ways to get the stuff I need

dense latch
languid hound
umbral olive
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@languid hound pm me I can help

next stump
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what do you need help with?

umbral olive
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I got it. Imma help him 👍

timber falcon
dull ibex
timber falcon
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Agreed

dull ibex
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cybertron is a great channel as well

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I love when wolfe is wacky but legit

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because everyone plays hard teams and bombs with them lmao

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no guard perish trap duo is wacky but insanely well built and piloted

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then I run into it on ladder and crush them lmao

next stump
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comparing wolfe's video quality between now and 4-5 years ago is hilarious

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he used to just turn on the webcam and rant

timber falcon
molten oasis
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I kinda enjoyed the ranting tbh

next stump
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i loved it

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some of my favorite videos nowadays are his side channel rants

cerulean rose
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Hey anyone want to join my tournament, we need one more player before we can start 🤙

bold geode
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He still rants now too
But honestly I think the production is amazing and they're very easy videos to just y'know
Throw on in background if you can't tell by this

lean wind
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@bold geode

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MONKE ITS ME

bold geode
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Why are you