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just use P2 cuz Fari is not as dominant here
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Imprison mindeedee is so funny
I want a pokemon to one shot raids without me having to put any effort into it
0 effort
Does Miraidon one shot nuetral 5 star raids if I give it a choice specs?
Mission unsuccessful
The answer is not even close
One setup move is required 😔
fake tears/chi yu teammate-
Lazy
if you are super effective against that tera type
Yes
i tried it,it does not. for certain types
Okay it’s time for my quest to grind all popular tms
Protect
Knock off
Every ground move ever
Every fighting move ever
Grassy glide
lol
Also maybe trick room and Draco metoer
https://pokepast.es/9e8d5bda64927c8e how would yall update this team
I think it struggles into double dragon and fire resist heavy teams
I like deci as my answer to gambit, incin, ursa
also my answer into volc and prim
the buzz, bloodmoon, and farig I can do without if necessary
Is pokepaste down
try it again
Ohh neat team
What kind of fire resists you dealing with
maybe prim is just the answer to double dragon
That is the straight forward answer could work
I might replace moon with zoruark
Tho ursaluna can also brute force yeh dragons since they’re usually so physical
Nah moon is awesome for this
Can brute force anything you want
Works with trick room
And tailwind
The most replaceable member seems like decidueye
rainbow hidueye…?
Has a 50% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage, a 30% chance to make it flinch, and a higher chance for a critical hit.
Fighting
Physical
90
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
100% def drop, 60% flinch-

and hidueye gets grass pledge for sea of fire if needed
wellI think both here might be slightly redudant
Yeah it’s not gonna do a lot of damage and I don’t think bennifits you much here
need to improve my rain match up
So I need to improve my matchups into double dragon and rain
also maushold pop bomb is rough
I need moon ideas
im gonna drop bloodmoon for now
deci covers more
the rest of the team needs answers for
Double Dragon
Trick Room
Rain
Pop bomb
I wonder if i'd be better off with discharge eq hyper ofeense
You’re struggling into dragons you say?
its a potential answer
it would give me weather control and a better rain matchup as well
Primarina also can sorta help
Are you referring to dnite and chomp specifically?
Or just like, all dragons
this is the main culprit
I feel like that’s the best answer then
Corviknight also works
Corv hard walls both of them
Honestly chomp a9 seems like, perfect, tr might just be something you have to play through but also depends on what you’re fighting
mhm
What do you got atm?
Guys im trynna get into competitve pokemon can anyone recommend me a team/ a mon i should use in this meta
Are banned mons like fluttermane only banned in tournaments or also in all arpund pvp
Banned in everything that is regulation H
Everything that uses the reg H ruleset basically
That means tournaments and in game ladder
Ohh k
real quick just so we’re all on the same page, are you looking to play VGC (double battles) or singles
Uhh well i dont rlly know
do you have any desire to play in person tournaments?
VGC is the official format and what is played in tournaments
but a lot of people come in wanting to play singles and don’t clarify, so I just wanted to check
Well im extemely new to all this
no worries at all, I was in the same boat 3 years ago when I first found Wolfey’s channel
I had no clue competitive pokemon existed
Also uhh pokemon online is needed right
If you want to play ladder yes
yes it is, switch online more specifically
And is getting dlc recommended
Yeah
if you have friends, not 100% necessary but makes life a lot easier
Aigh ill js get it tmr or so
Yeah bruh ipn know anyone who plays pokemon
same hahaha I had to convince my friends after they saw what in person tournaments were like
German is the worst place to play pokemon i feel like
there’s a strong german VGC scene once you get to know people
Ik but in my school you get laughed at when playing pokemon 0
besides you could go to European Regionals easier than any other countries
wait how old are you-
senior division ah ok
well we'll get to that later,but if you do not want to be smacked by your classmates,then build up your confidence to play VGC,there's nothing wrong with it i'm 18 and i still play Pokemon
yea but you can trade with others
TPCi divides the formats considering the age, juniors division i think its like 12 years max, seniors is 16¿ And master is around 17
I cant transfer it from my sword copy to my scarlet copy right
Well it divides by the year of birth instead of age
I mean my rilla for exampöe
you can via home
Oh aigh
pokemon home can do that
are you fairly new to the franchise or you just got Pokemon Sword
this could be a little bit harder to join VGC since it requires decent understanding but you could ask questions about how does it work or what should i do
Also is the dlc for sword usefull cause my brother bought it some time ago
yes, you get legendaries from there that can be annoying to get in violet
DLC for Both SV and SWSH would recommend to buy it if you do want to fully commit on VGC or just some lore bomb
Personally i'm a fan of both
Ik bruh
Bulk up, healing shouts, drain punch and then tera rage fists from Anihlape
Or belly drum iron hands
Zacian is not important its fine
Ts so anoying that i need to have pokemon go and allat
Well i used to play sum game called brick bronze on roblox
What I wanted doesn’t exist
i think the only Shiny Legendaries you can own legally (Restricted Legends) that are Important is Zamazenta, Kyogre and Maybe Lunala
maybe if we had dracovish
Why lunala tho
And I gave him a choice band
Zacian and Groudon
its pretty decent in Restricted Formats
i mean if Emma said Zacian is not important than why Groudon should be Listed
Nah not even dracovish could do it
Wait until Zacian Kyogre in double restricted
fun fact it can 2HKO Palkia if you give it steroids
Can i even transfer koygre etc back if i alr put them into scarlet?
just nuke that Space Dragon that is water type
Back to home, yes. Back to Go, no
I meant if i got em from sword
ok then yes you can
Aaaigz
What he said
the only reason why you can't transfer Home to Pogo cuz some pokemon exceeded the level cap of level 50
Ima go to sleep and then play through sword tmr ig
eyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
🤝
The only way Zac will truly be viable
Lost a game to a turn 1 1% pop bomb miss and a blood moon crit
But when I run scarf pelliper I get flattened 🤣
Cuz it’s not good
https://pokepast.es/a9395704362f2233 @molten oasis
It’s just unexpected CTs shit, oh and the rilla had bullet seed
Scarf Pelipper won the 1st grand challenge
not sold on chomp here
Bloodmoon seems fine
zoruark is on my mind
It’s still CTS cheese
Why do you have two sash
I had a good win con if it wasn’t scarf
Back to back turn 1 crits from my opponent
need a good mon into pop bomb
FML
gonna give cott covert
Any with rocky helmet
It’s a good trade
These crits are pissing me off

Simply don't miss
If it's not 100% accurate...
There's an item that prevents crits right?
Nope only ability
F*ck
I've had my +6 def arch die twice in 4 matches it's featured to 1st time crits
I wish
Urshifu exists behind your walls
It happens but that’s still annoying cuz I totally won that game if it hit
Ey?
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why did bro quit? surely it wasn't that bad of a position right?
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Is Body press also affected by Iron Defense/boosting defenses or is it just the IVs/EVs that are taken into consideration?
boosting defense boosts the damage
Okay thank you
Probably got mad about Rain and forgot Typhlosion has other moves out of Eruption
So this is more fringe/meme, but if I wanted to replace Farigiraf with Galar Slowbro or Slowking, which would be better. I just want something that can cancel out other people's trick rooms or use trick room if someone has tailwind up.
For the meme galar slowbro cuz funny ability
I like the idea of king as I can always swap it in to win the intimidate war. It also has slightly better offensive stats.
Yeah I was sure Maushold could follow me and Typhosion could do damage or even have Maus switch around and do big damage with pop bomb even through reflect. but it was probably a match he didnt want to spend time into winning
Got top 4 in a tour
But guess what
MAYA I LOST TO THE SINISTCHA SHIT I WAS USING FOR LIKE 2 WEEKS
TOLD YOU TEACUP GOOD
Tbf I choked G2 so fucking hard
I feel like you and drago came up with some kind of a narrative where I said sinischa was trash
I literally said “team looks great, sinischa feels out of place here tho”
Anyways
I was playing in one turn as if they were Lorb BM Ursa and not AV BM Ursa so that got me
Could've just Suckered and won the game
Because i felt it wasn’t really supporting anything on the team with it’s specialties all that much
And you guys were so offended it was insane
It kinda was helping stuff out
Just because everything wasn't TR oriented didn't mean it wasn't supporting stuff
I was talking more so set up keeping things alive oriented
The version you showed me was tailwind all attacks corviknight and garchomp ninetales
The only mon I could see bennfiiting a little was throat spray primarina
But that isn’t me saying sinischa is trash
Sinischa is a great mon
Where was Tailwind?
That was dumped like immediately
Okay who cares that was what the convo was about
I had no idea of any other versions
We showed you other versions lmao
You still were hung up on that version
Not my fault
No. Because I wasn’t complaining about sinischa in any other version except this one
I was like cool awesome for every other version
But you you sir
Because I said sinischa didn’t fit in this version
You created a narrative that I said it was trash
Nah fam lol
Yes fam
Nah fam
Anyways dumped it anyways cuz Kingambit was a bitch
And Kingambit being a bitch is not ok
Okay but your literally just lying
Nah fam
I ain't even gonna continue
On another topic, people were quick on the TCG Pocket tours lol
your annoying lol see ya
Unfortunately
Annoying, an unapologetic liar, and stubborn is a crazy combination
👍
I remember
why do yall worship tofu so much
What?
Tofu is a friend and the person who taught me
Idt joking about Tofu is worshipping him
tofus good - way better player than i am - but honestly yall been like hard simping him for like months
such a dumb arguement to say
tofu would agree
Wow lmao
So me stating an actual fact is simping lol
Tofu has more experience and is actually better, it's proven
It's not simping, it's reality
why are we fighting?
but maya has higher reg h accolades
Also like why are you here anyways
This convo had nothing to do with you and you're just taking jabs just cuz
wouldnt logically - since tofu is on hiatus
So am I supposed to simp for her now by your standards?
that the person with more reg h experience has a say
That doesn’t matter to me
cuz i can be
ez enough said
Man y'all like a couple of fuckin jesters rn
I ain't got time for all this lmao
i mean a couple of jesters whos had some legitimate success in current reg

can we drop this please?
if you wanna continue fighting go take it to dms
Yeah yeah wave that success thing right in my face cool
nobody else needs to see this catfight you three are putting up
Simping pretty hard yourself
I see a pot in the room
honestly its just disrespectful to @ someone to do a i told u so
so imma call it out-
I didn't @ her?
I said it
She read it and responded
Maybe check your facts before you come in here and try to insult me with half baked roasts
i aint like yall gen z mfs - this aint a roast
u know what u were tryna do
its petty and rude lol
u aint do a literal @ but i mean u called them out by name
lmao
Yeah imma block y'all now
This argument is just not worth my time
Have fun looking at my shit for the next few months stalking me like you did with JaySP for whatever reason
kk
what a garbage fire of an argument
have fun being caught up with like couple week old arguements to pull up an i told u so with ur best arguement being x guy would agree with me? cant think of anything else
fuchsia i think you got that part wrong-
Monke was highlighting the fact that tofu would agree that monke is a stuck up annoying parasite 
you might wanna re read things again
Yeah it's whatever
I'm done with it
I need to sleep for doctor's appointment but me no cleepy
i've been looking at my teambuilding and realising i am very stubborn and rigid when it comes to teambuilding, maybe it's the 'tism
even so i mean ignoring the specific semantics of that line - even if i misunderstood, any mf can see it was a petty arguement and just bringing up some weeks old thing to do an i told u so
no i agree with that.
it is quite petty to bring up something from a while ago to rub it in someone’s face-
but it’s not helping your case when you misread everything 
It's good to explore a bit sometimes, but having common things is just yeah
the parasite line whether it was calling maya that or self depreciating i mean - the whole interaction was like baby shit - so its like
honestly even if i misunderstood im cool
like i invariably tend to choose stuff like kingambit and rilla and skeledirge even if they're not performing well
sneasler is everywhere so those three are no good
2/3 of those are good lol
then i probably need to play to their strengths more
But also just find something that's good into Sneasler
Plenty of stuff for that
Loaded Dice mons are going around rn
You can do that
If it brings the value that you need, try it out
Why Showdown is here
Trial and error can be a bitch sometimes, but it can also pave a way to insight
just really not sure about what item for tentacruel, mika showed me a regional team with tentacruel in it but it had cloak and gliscor has cloak
and moves as well
Gliscor can use other items like Sash/ I think one used AV before
monke monke rate my team
honestly feel like going back to poison heal SD
it’s made to be not functional 
This shit is normal for you
I'm worried
worried-?
Wait Perish Song Krow
Why do you do this to me 
Also did you take my Prim spread 
zard with no sunny day?
maybeeeeeeee 
guilty as charged
well it was gonna be zard or blaziken cuz i need fire pledge
It's ok Drago has it too 
scarf hyphlosion wouldn’t be too bad
maybe we don’t use hydrapple though?
why not cinderace, it's faster than zard
i wanna have some fun with rainbow/pledge combos
Me when y'all figure out that that spread was made for a Lorb and is actually suboptimal
too fragile-
Fire
Blaze, Libero (Hidden)
80/116/75/65/75/119
530
I'll be back
blaziken is frail too
Fire/Flying
Blaze, Solar Power (Hidden)
78/84/78/109/85/100
534
Charizard-Mega-X, Charizard-Mega-Y
i mean libero is nice but if i’m running 2 fire moves 
o trueeeeeee
just watch out for sucker punch
scarf hyphlosion is faster but yeah
wait wouldn’t blazi technically be better cause i can protect T1 for a speed boost-
or upper hand for fake outs and fire pledge at +1 next turn-

i’ll try phox for now
Does hyphlosion get upper hand
nope i don’t think so?
Anyways me go Nini now
Nope it doesn't
Nini Nova
gnnnnn bestie
I think it's only infernape and Blaziken
that makes sense
Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Bind, Bite, Blaze Kick, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Covet, Cross Chop, Crunch, Darkest Lariat, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dual Chop, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Heat Crash, Iron Head, Knock Off, Lash Out, Leech Life, Lick, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Outrage, Pay Day, Power Trip, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thrash, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, U-turn
Blast Burn, Burning Jealousy, Dark Pulse, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Snarl, Snore, Tera Blast
Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Confide, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Growl, Helping Hand, Leer, Nasty Plot, Parting Shot, Protect, Quash, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Incineroar.
awww dang-
imagine if incin learned upper hand 
Why does alolan raichu get upper hand lol
Where would it use it
hm?
incin upper hand?
idk i just think it would be funny 
incin already suffers from 6 moves 4 slots syndrome
i thought upper hand was +4?
Has a 100% chance to make the target flinch. Fails if the target did not select a priority move for use this turn, or if the target moves before the user.
Fighting
Physical
65
100
15 (24)
3
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
oh nvm
If it was +4 I would have 0 complaints and probably love to have it
I see more scenarios FO would be useful consistently rather than more specific ones where you have to depend on an Upper Hand “mindgame”
Only mon I've ever seen it on was weavile
is serene grace + rainbow additive or multiplicative-
let’s say 30% chance to para-
does that become-
ok nvm i answered my own question-
120% chance to para doesn’t seem right
Are you thinking about using dudunsparce or sawsbuck
Yeah dunno about you but if I get something wrong about someone and they correct me I would apologize instead of doubling down
dudunsparce-
thinking something like body slam, poison jab, yawn and protect?
Why not rock slide
urshifu doesn’t exist so i’m safe to go protect in dudunsparce
And glare
it gets rock slide oop-
Paraflinching dudunsparce
body slam though
Has a 30% chance to paralyze the target. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.
Normal
Physical
85
100
15 (24)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Hyper drill is better
Goes through protect
So you could fake out then follow up with hyper drill
i might as well as go both then-
hyper drill being my only stab and i only have 8 uses feels off for me
How many times will you need to use it though vs rock slide and glare
true true
With hyper drill there's mind games and you put your opponent in a position where they can't protect
am i even picking up KOs with it though-
If you double up sure
cuz it’s base 55 speed 
Tr?
252 jolly under tw reaches 237
224
234 sorry
It's still pretty slow though yeah so maybe it's better to invest in bulk
100 attack is pretty ok
Dudunsparce @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 116 HP / 76 Atk / 84 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Hyper Drill
- Rock Slide
- Glare
- Protect
Might need more special bulk
196 speed gets me to 100 speed
might just run a tailwind setter and less speed on this thing
Glare is a form of speed control remember
oh that’s right-
para is a speed control
Also I can't remember, king's rock doesn't stack with serene grace does it
Not with moves that have a chance to flinch
nope-
can’t work on moves that flinch either
How about scale shot loaded dice on dnite
Population Bomb with King's Rock and hitting all 10 times (with Gravity or Sweet Scent) only gives a 65% chance to flinch. Which is less than I thought it would be.
Broken move
That's slightly better than Serene Grace Rock Slide.
Yeah but can maushold paraflinch
Serene Grace Rock Slide would be better since its spread (assuming everyone gets outsped)
but also
Pop Bomb damage
Hyper drill + glare + rock slide is a pretty potent combo
what we cookin
Nova was cooking dudunsparce + pledge team
I want to try nova's team just to see how it does
Tera Blast Damage and defense boosts
or im assuming
Oh ig it doesn't need to be special
So whether tera blast is physical or special depends on which stat is higher?
That's why it's so good on p2 because it becomes stab if it doesn't tera
it’ll be an okay team i feel like
def not easy to play tho cuz it heavily relies on pledge
nova is always cooking
OK I just need to find someone to put coaching on my sneasler(s)
And it add it to my teams
i’m never cooking
i’m always committing arson
paste?
so true lol, sometimes it works tho
Well all of them with sneasler
like the time you wrecked me with lugia lol
I don't use fake out
i think coaching/throat chop sets are better
Me when no dlc 😦
One of my teams does
what are you running currently?
I'm going back to p2 ursa for now
What does it do on this tr team
Fake Out, Coaching, improves your MU against Gambit and Archa
What does coaching do
As far as archa and gambit go fair enough I didn't consider that
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2234565143
so…
i wasn’t able to get any dudunsparce spotlight but this mildly works
they lead what i predicted though i thought they’d sleep powder-
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Tera flying coaching could be good under tr
Immune to quake boost Luna
BTW I keep swapping teams because I try a new six
Fail then go back to two or three comfort teams
P2 ursa, pult balance, and raid boss
are you learning from it?
tera fighting p2 for gambit and arch
i got unluckily lucky-
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3 missed rock slides, 3 flinches follow 
also i prolly don’t have to run pledge anymore cuz rock slide + serene grace + rainbow don’t stack
why were they running lanturn
Boo (thank god that be busted)
drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to interstellar_latte

What do you think Coaching does

Well I gave an example coaching could be useful already
You want Sneasler to Tera Fly just to click Coaching in TR?
More broadly why do you think Coaching would be good
On this team I have no idea.
Why do you think Coaching is good in general
I was thinking of just keeping pelipper since I don't
Oh well it's like a free bulk up for mons
I get why coaching is good just p2 ursa doesn't have a ton of candidates
Ig the defense boosts help a ton against common threats as well
Nova you could even run special dudunsparce with air slash, glare and some other special move
Ooh air slash glare and hex
But its physical attack is better than its special
Ok so I'm gonna use dudunsparce too so now I have rilla, gliscor, gambit, tentacruel and dudunsparce and I just need a 6th
much better for VGC
what about with rainbow pledge
oh nvm, i forgot it only boosts the 1st flinch
having a lot more success on ladder now dropping pelipper for murkrow
manual rain just ends the weather wars
nice
@mighty stump trick or treat!!!
I choose Trick!!! Youmre stuck with a Choice Scarf!!!
IN TRICK ROOM
its fine my team is naturally insanely slow 
ok dudunsparce might actually be good?
take a shower monke
No Emma the stinky one
Whos a good 6th? https://pokepast.es/28ee47d5382e4f4e
was running Scizor but find im not clicking into it much
although im tempted to run Illumise over Murkrow for Sweet Scent
dudunsparce is actually working decently well, it has good synergy with tentacruel, tentacruel lowers accuracy with muddy water then dudunsparce comes in with rock slide to flinch

This is one of those wake up feeling sick days
actually i'm not doing so great with it

it’s not that good of a. mon.
it just exists
It serves no purpose
Maybe guy can calm mind boomburst
Bulky as hell
i'm sick of bo1 cheese, just lost to mach punch pawmot
I beleive in you
i probably need to replace dudunsparce
): aw
Anyone kind enough to lecture me in competitive pokemon? Really interested in just dont know how or where to start with it
Also new acc so hello
😁
Were you looking at the VGC format? (Doubles)
Jah. I really just got the spark to randomly be interested in this
What’s your team
a crap team
So first off it's like
It's good to have knowledge, we actually have a lot of resources in the pins I'm finna link. It may not be electrifying to look at em, but it really helps
Also I'd look around for rental teams at first just to like get to know it cuz once again competitive is like a whole other monster
Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:
https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)
https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)
https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)
https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)
https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams
https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon
There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC
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Ong. Thanks bro 😁❤️
my team is gliscor, tentacruel, rilla, kingambit, skeledirge and dudunsparce
Really became confused right at the step of how can i predict my enemies next turn
Really comes with experience
Also don't get discouraged right away if you're bad
It can definitely take a minute lol
Agreed. Still struggling doing a planned attack. Lmao still need to learn how to properly distribute and what items to choose. And the meta.....
That’s why yoinking teams is best like monkey said
Your diving into things you can’t comprehend yet
I recommend a dondozo tatsu team
It’s super straight forward and simple for new players
Wait, its this deep? 😭
what about mausape
This makes me more interested lol
i'm keeping tentacruel, muddy water accuracy drop is too valuable
I have a dumb idea if your serene grace
A defog tailwind ( to lower evasiveness for dunsparce and also remove terrain)
Give it air slash
Air slash rockslide air slash rockslide
Profit
And then an earthquaker taking advantage if no grassy terrain cus of defog
Heh….
True stupid gimmick
But honestly defog might be a legit move
How do yall figure out the best moves 😅😭
Yall might be my idols soon till i become as good
Or like moves that are valid for/per team
What’s your current set
rock slide, glare, hyper drill, protect
https://pokepast.es/9aedd97634374f94
try playing this team
Aight
Wait so mixed attacker on who
air slash and rock slide means making dudunsparce a mixed attacker
Oh no
or i could go for ancient power cheese
I mean air slash on the tailwind setter
how about kilowattrel
dundunsparce does struggle against grass types
yeah it does as well
That’s just an idea for a little cheese team
gholdengo is rough
How about bringing something that kills gholdengo then
gambit?
Yeah that would work
someone just used wonder room mismagius, like what?
Wow that’s a pretty useless move
was it to give arch more sp def, idk?
honestly you could even give him a choice scarf and make him purely an rng machine if you wanted to
dudun?
Yeah
well it does get drill run
I think it has two interesting strats
Choice scarf lottery machine
And calm mind boomburst
i want serene grace hax
Let’s try choice scarf
With murkrow
That has dark pulse and air slash

Hahahahahahhaha
Honestly screw the defog idea
Wait wait
Wait wait wait wait wait
Give the murkrow thunder wave
Make their life hell
https://pokepast.es/55d01ad92a5a3d30
time to play lottery of hell
does serene grace apply if the partner paralyses
seren grace doesn’t affect para
It’s just more bullshit on top of the flinches
lol
oh i thought it did
It probably feels that way
paraflinching is funny
Oh wait both these mons should be ghost tera
Lowers the target's evasiveness by 1 stage. If this move is successful and whether or not the target's evasiveness was affected, the effects of Reflect, Light Screen, Aurora Veil, Safeguard, Mist, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the target's side, and the effects of Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the user's side. Ignores a target's substitute, although a substitute will still block the lowering of evasiveness. If there is a terrain active and this move is successful, the terrain will be cleared.
Flying
Status
0
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15 (24)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.
murkow, gambit, dudun
Gale wings defog seems a little broken
unless they have gambit or incin
Yeyeyeey nobody thought of it on talaonflame garchomp teams
first ive seen of it, fair enough. my bad
oh no reason to be your bad
but uh i saw someone doing that bullshit up high
i was just looking at ways to reduce evasion to improve the accuracy of Muddy water on my Ludicolo
may just run surf and put the slug as my 6th mon
could just run weather ball
flinch them 80 trillion times
Ludicolo is somewhat frail, ideally need to push for that DKO
plus the off chance i lose weather i lose water stab
yeah, tera water life orb muddy water is picking up KOs
gothca
It doesn't get headbutt but it does get body slam
nah it gets that
quite funny watching TR teams try the follow me strats only to get blown up
Holder's attacks without a chance to make the target flinch gain a 10% chance to make the target flinch. Evolves Poliwhirl into Politoed and Slowpoke into Slowking when traded.
Holder's attacks without a chance to make the target flinch gain a 10% chance to make the target flinch. Evolves Gligar into Gliscor when held and leveled up during the night.
first he has to go first tho
After you Maus
it can really cook you if you get caught offguard
Oh it's an egg move that's why
rest of the team is your call
your fine against ground
the synergy matters the most
try adding like a gholdengo
or an earthquaker
@craggy dagger TRICK OR TREATTTT
Add gambit and tentacruel and I think it looks good
🍬
is tentacruel one of your faves?
at this point i dont even think you need gambit
I've liked the muddy water accuracy drops
only the muddy water?
Sludge bomb and tera blast ground does decent damage too
Yeah the one from the regional
anyone know a good dragonite spread-
tryna run multiscale loaded dice
honestly guy could be ice spinner dragonite
188/252+/4/0-/4/60
tyyyy 
TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY TWO
TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY TWO
FOUR
your welcome thank me always
i do all ev spreads

Honestly still kinda valid
Leakers have exposed what is under mimikyu disguise and people hate it but I think it's kinda cute
tbf it was in the sun moon anime for like
5 frames underwater
Gotta see this one
Oh that’s cute
How do I put a spoiler post lol
why would anyone hate that
I don't know!!
Nah don’t post
But twitter don't like it at all
cuz it contradicts the lore of anyone who looks underneath the costume dies of fear -
though in my imagination i feel they’d die of cuteness overload-
Thought the lore was it just wanted to wear the costume to be respected like Pika
But then doesn't shock me when it comes to ghost types
Tbf it's made it onto Mimikyu wiki already
Its actual appearance is unknown. A scholar who saw what was under its rag was overwhelmed by terror and died from the shock.
A gust of wind revealed what hides under this Pokémon's rag to a passing Trainer, who went home and died painfully that very night.
Leakers getting all this information but still no diglett
Coincidental, don't blame the cutie
so true
Probably just pokemon magic
Like madusa
Probably is not literally scary
Just has the power to make you scared of it

it just general bulk & @ 60spe invest u hit 162 after 1 scaleshot
5 in 7 and my switch almost went out the window
Doing Tera flying and coaching sneasler now
tera flying is interesting
i usually just go Tera Dark but Flying?
fair point
Hello garchompo
Why do so many people think Ludicolo is a physical attacker?
Someone just tricked their choice specs onto my Ludicolo and then put up a reflect
I just nuked with rain specs muddy water
i have never ever heard that
guy does not look like he's hitting things with his hands
Just going off people's play style around him
maybe they just liked you
Not the first time they have chosen to run reflect in front of him instead of light screen
they wanted to give you a specs
welcome to CTS where people doing bullshit stuff
Water/Grass
Swift Swim, Rain Dish, Own Tempo (Hidden)
80/70/70/90/100/70
480
ok yeah people who called Ludicolo a Phys attacker are trolls
I love ludicolo
unlocked new favourite thing
Nuh uh
it runs fake out
Muddy water and what else
Ice Beam or energy Ball
and then Protect
or Leaf Storm if you don't care the stat drops

what pokemon in scarlet have unaware ability?
i thought slowbro had it apparently it doesn't
thats Oblivious
quagsire bigdoof cleafable
S k e l e d i r g e
does it?
its literally using it in Competitive
didn't know that
dozo also a pretty common user of it
Mid Pokémon
The Pfp
It killed me looking through pictures to use for tee ko
So I tried to draw it
I’d post it but uh, let’s not lol
dew it
It has the n word implied on it
ok fair
oh my god its 2 am I literally thought it was 2 pm until I walked outside and it was pitch black I was about to get lunch
I fell asleep too early…
This has never happened before
3am for me. Two hours til the end of my shift
Guess I got 10 hours to spend
😭
Wonder what to do
Just glad I didn’t take my meds
I need something TO DO
IM NOCTURNAL NOW until I fix my bed time tomorow
I’ll literally just watch House MD until the day starts
vgc
Missed an opportunity to say you are unaware
No one outright said it but the defensive behaviours in front of it can't be ignored
Naming all my raging bolts paul from now on
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Pizza is defintely one of the most wholesome competitive players
@cyan smelt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwhi-S1s7Q
A Hyper Cutter Gliscor with Choice Band alongside snow won a 100+ player online tournament in Generation 9 Scarlet & Violet Regulation H. 2020 LAIC VGC Champion & 3rd Place at both the 2019 and 2022 Pokemon VGC World Championships tries out Tera Ice Gliscor in Snow.
00:00 - Introduction
00:10 - Team Breakdown & Rental
07:16 - Game 1
18:31 - Gam...
How you just do that
ive done that once before, i was up 4 days straight. eventually crashed and fell asleep Friday night, woke up Sunday daytime thinking it was still Friday
My guy what
yep, lost about 32 hours
I was able to nap
There was defintely something wrong with you at that point
Yeah.but how you flip your whole day like that
weegeecee
I take back my “tru tru”, weavile being hard countered is super untrue
Thinking its hard countered just cus its weak to fighting i disagree with
If both are sash or Sneasler is unburden weavile kills through sash with triple axel
Weavile can fake out before Sneasler
Hmph
1:1s always suck
Hey Tofu
Hoi Tofu and Monke
Bro didn't even say bye this time


(all my gun stickers are water types-)
Well yes, I chose not to sleep for 4 days, that was pretty stupid
Literally me but add the science autism
No I mean
There’s something wrong with you if you can tell your body not to sleep for 4 days
Like medically wrong with you
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between MaxiReH and Giovambattista! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg H; Date: Nov 1, 2024
Lucky you
Lots of caffeine and a need to be busy. I can do it occasionally if I really need to but it destroys me for about a week.
Did 3 days no sleep 2 years ago when I had to move house over 2 days
D:
I guess underestimating the power of caffeine is a mistake
But would probably damage your brain
This would make a lot of sense
You were right I’m really bored
It’s not really sour just bored
The first part was okay enough
This the flash?
I once stayed awake so long in Kansas that I experienced vivid hallucinations - the street had turned to black water.
Stingers are bad, kids.
https://pokepast.es/ddc7cc3e2d8b55bc thoughts on a 6th for this? Struggles seem to be dozo calm mind users/volc and maushold
Team got to 1500 with very few losses I think I'm building it for in game ranked ladder
Proving the froslass doubters wrong fr
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@real prairie very interesting team ty
kal0sunleashed has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof
Jet set radio post
Murkrow ussually seems to synergize with these types of teams
Murkrow felt like shit
Dayum
Like
Garchapo felt bad too?
It just sits on the field and exists after it clicks tw half the time
Chomp didn’t feel like it was acomplishinf anything
I'm starting to like it i finally feel like i have speed conteol
And weather control
And terrain control
Which ability is most useful on amoongus?
Regenerator
effect spore
Emma
I choked a top 4 
L
I predicted BM Ursa to Protect twice in a row
|| It was AV || 
I forgor lol
Yes I forgot and assumed it was Lorb even though the Prim they had was Lorb 
It tera Ghosted too
I failed to Sucker it twice
So
Not only did their move sheet say no protect
It was incapable of using that move
Wait how if it only had attacking moves
It was 12:30 AM okay
My ass was in autopilot
Cuz I never went for it
I was predicting Protect on something that couldn't Protect 
Oh fail usually means you tried and it failed
No
What's worse is that I was gonna Sucker it once and just said nah
At that point I was basically just gaslighting myself that it had it
Shows what I went through
Nah you're just bad 
Fuck I did lose to you that one time
LMAO
Did I have my Infernape team for that or
Pretty sure I was using a weird team too no?
You were using Psyspam 
Like straight up just Psyspam
I can probably find the replay
Man this is basically like when Peter Griffin beat that black belt in karate
I'm shitting on a child rn
OHH THE SUN ROOM TEAM
WHERE I NEVER USED THE PSYSPAM MODE CUS I HATED IT
:3

What????
He looks like if one of the Sopranos forgot to do Weightwatchers
Point is Scotty
HE'S A FUCKING CHILD
Oh him yeah he came after the word I think
So is the baby gronk dude who rizzes Livvy dunne or whatever
He’s a child
@spiral ridge JJST PUT EVERYONE IN MY GODDAMN BACKPACK
Huh?
This is crazy out of context
i went 100+ on nuketown hardpoint :3
now im so eeppyyyyy
You know where to go
I was tryna remember what the fucking context was
to bedd….
It’s not where I’m going 
That’s also a correct answer yes 
cx
Nuh Uh
Monke come be pumpkin

¿
Is that an @summer shore I see
It is
why are you all orange
Hello @summer shore
Hi monke
How has one been
Its finals time
New event role
Both for league and for uni
Glhf Shiro
ah
I'm tryna guess pumpkin sizes but they all look pretty big
I have a lot of lectures to watch
They're saying small but they're huge bro
how get
You gotta guess sizes of pumpkins bro
where?
In the Halloween discussion
Event category might be hidden because of Discord’s decision to hide channels from people so in case it is, #eid_art_discussion is a good place to find pumpkins 
boo?
im orange now hehe
Hai bestie
I wanna be a color
Neat
Comp staff Eni
Yay
Tofu I'm a helper now yay
👀
(I'm not lol)
lol
hi tofu

Standards clearly have dropped
plummeted if you will
Economic collapse levels of drop
Great Depression drop of expectations if it’s monkey
I love how I am gonna miss out on Master Ball tonight cuz a DC didn't count
Yeah that's fuckin stupid
I'm just glad my games didn't dc me. Like they usually do
Wait what
You super last minuted wow
Insane that a title like pokemon still has DC issues
And imma just quit til tomorrow
Always a problem
Get to ultra and then getting out of it is hell, something always happens
I just hate that the thing this time is a fucking DC that just did not count
This game can eat my ass, goodnight y'all
Man i really hate pushing on ladder this reg there too much cheeky strat i just want my herba mystica 
I feel ya
Always that last game where something goes wrong
I like the gliscor team that James baek featured
i wish i knew how to build a team that isnt dysfunctional, or doesn't have something completely wrong with it
Sometimes the answer is the simplest solution
Additionally the simplest plays is usually the correct one too
fair enough, still dissapointed, like i feel like i keep overthinking things and then when i dont i missed some big thing, like something's always flawed
I think like sometimes solutions don’t have to be perfect
CB gliscor is something that never occurred to me
It’s an interesting way to make it an immediate threat
And you can U turn if rilla is there
thats not it i feel like there always a big hole
Maybe it would help to try to cover as much as you can in a core of 4 pokemon and then you have a lot of room for the last two to round out the specifics
Do you think I should try blizzard a9 and blizzard tentacruel
i feel like out of most of my career ive done that like, twice
cuz idk how to patch the remaining holes or theres something i didn't account for
and i have to do ALL of this by myself
Well what are you currently thinking of, might be good to have someone to bounce ideas off
I guess you've tried a9 bax
a9 bax isnt good




good job