competitive_discussion

[dull ibex]

ig thats fine since hes taking dengo's spot

[bold geode]

It's Stalwart and max max

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/18df37b8c3593fce

damp rock time

[rustic mountain]

28/48 of the mons in top cut were distinct not bad

for louisville

top 8 atleast i think top cut is different now w/ the new formatting

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2223040989 how'd I do

[rustic mountain]

palafin in top 24:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwuJkg4aAAMLhMu?format=jpg&name=medium

[solid frigate]

lol

[dull ibex]

Arch is done

If I can get away with hydro pump over weather Ball I'm ready to go to test

[dull ibex]

Pelipper is done 🙂

[bold geode]

Fr

[bold geode]

Weather Ball kinda better

[dull ibex]

Doesn't matter anymore lmao

[foggy lodge]

okay most important question

Normal Porygon2 or Shiny Porygon2

[plain drum]

Poryblue

[rustic mountain]

2 in top 32, not terrible tbh haha

not like its heyday by any means

[bold geode]

Bro was basically on Lebron's team

[foggy lodge]

One of the Palafin was with a Choice scarf icy wind Tytar

[rustic mountain]

eh more like dwight howard on the magic. he was part of the blueprint that laid the ground for the modern era (urshifu = golden state warriors)

[tiny peak]

How do you ev train a level 1 pokemon cause I'm trying to match the stats that it shows in master dex to make sure I get the evs correctly

[rustic mountain]

r u asking how to ev train or how to track the stats

[tiny peak]

I don't wanna level the pokemon first cause then I have to reset evs

I know how to train need to track the stats

[rustic mountain]

gotta jus track it internally nd either write it down as u go or keep a mental note

[tiny peak]

Ok, how many evs is it per kill with one of the power items?

[rustic mountain]

depends wat u ko, power item is +8 iirc tho

[tiny peak]

I train on the early routes, fletching, shinx

[wanton sand]

Hey hey, glad you came back for another night.

[tiny peak]

Etc

[wanton sand]

I promise. It'll be a lot more interesting this time.

[rustic mountain]

those should be giving u +1 naturally so itd b +9 with the power item

per ko

[chrome knot]

tree i know what to play next for a bit

[rustic mountain]

wat?

[chrome knot]

Ms Vivillon

[rustic mountain]

back on the vivi train

[chrome knot]

yeah stealing a certain team and changing the bugs on it

[rustic mountain]

curious to see what those changes are

gl 🫡

[next stump]

what’s the next regional? is there a european one soon?

[dense latch]

Lille

this weekend

[chrome knot]

Lille this weekend

[foggy lodge]

coooool

[next stump]

hell yeah that’s awesome

[dense latch]

ooo laic in a month too

[next stump]

thank you

LAIC would be so much more tempting if I hadn’t heard so many stories of muggings happening to people near the venue

[rustic mountain]

obv ur call but id say jus be aware of ur surroundings and make sure not to find urself in isolated areas away from ppl late at night

[foggy lodge]

where will laic be?

[dense latch]

sao paulo brazil

[foggy lodge]

ah

I don't know too much about the security there

[chrome knot]

yeah ngl turbo uncomfortable going to LAIC

[dense latch]

heavily depends on the district

[chrome knot]

that ones always off the list

[dense latch]

if it's anything like where I live in knowing which places not be in at night/alone is your best bet if you do want to attend

[dull ibex]

Will p2 ursa last into restricteds 🤔

[spiral ridge]

Urshi rapid big threat

As ursas do need to protect or something typically at some point

[foggy lodge]

P2 Ursa worked in reg F

In reg G nope :p

[dull ibex]

Ah ok

[spiral ridge]

And main thing swapping it in mid turn to put burn is incin

[dull ibex]

Can ice rider do soft tr balance teams though?

[spiral ridge]

Which urshi rapid also threatens hard

[foggy lodge]

Well there was a Koraidon team with Ursaluna P2 Venusaur that got popular before worlds but it never really popped off

[foggy lodge]

i suppose

Hard TR demonstrated to be actually good in reg G

[dull ibex]

Or is ice rider committed to tr

[foggy lodge]

Idk about hard TR with p2

[spiral ridge]

Ice rider usually is its own TR setter

[dull ibex]

I don't need p2

Just a similar playstyle

[foggy lodge]

Hard TR?

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

It can be seen as similar as it ran with Sus a lot

[foggy lodge]

Hard TR is good but i think its hard af to play

[spiral ridge]

For healing and support in TR

[foggy lodge]

Anyways, exists Alex Underhill's team or Diego Ferreira's team

[dull ibex]

No soft tr

P2 balance style

[foggy lodge]

Ah

There was a similar team with Farigiraf i think if it works

[dull ibex]

Hopefully I can get away with 31 speed on ice rider

I doubt it

I can't hunt a 0 speed even if I wanted too

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/df47d30580db798e

[chrome knot]

you can

i used 31spe and had spe invested on my cir lol

[dull ibex]

And it's still good for tr?

But that's good because I don't have shield anymore

[foggy lodge]

I think it is good

Many CIR play 31 speed

Others play 0 speed, depends on what the team needs

[shadow wind]

Decorate Smeargle 😔

[chrome knot]

yes bc ur only 70spe lmao

[dull ibex]

Oh ok

[solid frigate]

N O

Not the Demon.

[torn parrot]

I wonder when wolfey is gonna get canceled

And then when random people are gonna come out of nowhere and say “yep I always knew he was creepy and a bad person”

[chrome knot]

what

[torn parrot]

I know one day he will get in trouble for something

I’m investing in the future when people say they saw it coming

[chrome knot]

wha

he alr got in trouble for stuff and moved on

little late to the punch

[torn parrot]

Nah it’ll be worse probably
He’ll have a Minecraft youtuber Mr beast Neil vgc moment

Every YouTuber has one

[chrome knot]

literally what are you talking about

[shadow wind]

DanTDM

[chrome knot]

people are normal you knowww

[shadow wind]

Most are yes

But Maya is referring to the few that are not

And most public figures that are weird like that usually youtubers I guess

[foggy lodge]

i don't think its good to discuss that here lol

[shadow wind]

Probably not, no

[dull ibex]

I hate it here

Tofu won, I want to use substitute

[torn parrot]

Prrrrrobably not

[chrome knot]

preferably not

[torn parrot]

Sometimes I talk about YouTube cancellation drama spontaneously

[shadow wind]

Penguinz0 is my go to source

🙏

Anyway

What if Sneasler wasn't real and it was all a bad dream

[foggy lodge]

PLEASE

Sneasler is fine Dire Claw is the problem

[torn parrot]

YouTuber cancellation is like dire claw

It’s not a matter of if

It’s a matter of when
And what

[torn parrot]

sadly i cant trust you on that

https://tenor.com/view/unknown-girl-smirk-smile-anime-gif-17499382

[patent marsh]

to be fair nobody is ever cancelled unless they go about it stupidly

so many youtubers had drama took a lay low then came back scott free

only ever happens if the situation is actually criminally really bad

or if they get banned off youtube

I don't think we're suppose to be sharing that here

[torn parrot]

wait really?

[patent marsh]

#announcements

[torn parrot]

whoopsie

i like rabbits and i wish another rabbit pokemon was created

like 5 more at least

maybe 6

10

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 189: Jumpluff

Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/55/70/55/95/110

Total

460

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

hub

How similar is this with Whimsicott?

Joseph got 2nd at Louisville with it, i thought Whimsicott was better

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 547: Whimsicott

Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Prankster, Infiltrator, Chlorophyll (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/67/85/77/75/116

Total

480

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

its a bit bulkier ig

And has sleep powder obv

[torn parrot]

well the most aperent difference is prankster

[mighty stump]

aperent

[torn parrot]

i forgot a P

😔

[molten oasis]

wha?

[shadow wind]

And it’s 2 “a’s” and not 2 “e’s”

[mighty stump]

aperent

[molten oasis]

wtf are you talking about?

[patent marsh]

apparent?

[molten oasis]

oh

[mighty stump]

I don’t know about you people but I find humor in certain words being spelled wrong

[molten oasis]

so do i

[mighty stump]

Not in a

You spelled it wrong way

[molten oasis]

i was just confused

[mighty stump]

But in a physically “it looks funny” way

[mighty stump]

Wat was confusing

Lol

[molten oasis]

where aperent came from

i didn't notice the bad spelling from Maya

back to gundam

[dull ibex]

Hello

[mighty stump]

vc?

[dull ibex]

Sure not sure how long I'll be up thougg

I'm in personal server

[torn parrot]

I rely on auto correct

You know my secret now

[molten oasis]

Booo

[mighty stump]

New blogpost finally up

[tiny karma]

Ability: Sheer Force

This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects have their power multiplied by 1.3, but the secondary effects are removed. If a secondary effect was removed, it also removes the user's Life Orb recoil and Shell Bell recovery, and prevents the target's Anger Shell, Berserk, Color Change, Emergency Exit, Pickpocket, Wimp Out, Red Card, Eject Button, Kee Berry, and Maranga Berry from activating.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

link

[mighty stump]

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/tofutable12

[real prairie]

danke

[real prairie]

does this only remove positive secondary effects or negative ones too?

[molten oasis]

wdym?

[real prairie]

does it remove drawbacks as well as benefits

Close combat for example

[molten oasis]

i think so?

[mighty stump]

No not for CC lol

[dull ibex]

What an exit BTW lmao

[molten oasis]

thats not considered a secondary effect?

[mighty stump]

No?

[molten oasis]

why cant i use the bot wtf

or did they change how it works? idk

[tiny karma]

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Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

i didn't know that part

its secondary effects that affect the opponent then?

[real prairie]

this is what i thought, but i wanted to double check

[molten oasis]

cool, now i know more about sheer force

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[real prairie]

whos a bigger hitter, Burned guts Ursaluna or Life orb Sheer force rampardos ?

[dull ibex]

If we vc again at some point it'll be in weegeecee

[real prairie]

vc open to all or invite only? lol would love to join one at some point maybe

[mighty stump]

Rampardos

Until it has to actually move or take a hit

And this isnt accounting thjngs like Facade and STAB

[real prairie]

wanted to try some after you strats

[torn parrot]

its time for sleep

cool blog post 👍

[cyan smelt]

cool blog tofu

[cyan smelt]

should i use glowbro?

[mighty stump]

Meme it

[solid frigate]

Meme it

[cyan smelt]

i like using it

[mighty stump]

Maybe i’ll make a glowbro team

[cyan smelt]

it's not going great so far, i'm bad

[mighty stump]

Lol

[real prairie]

scarf Maus follow me is a lot of fun lol

[mighty stump]

Why is it Scarfed

[real prairie]

outspeed anything outside of TW

[mighty stump]

Yeah but for what

[real prairie]

i meant After you*

not Follow me

my bad

[mighty stump]

Seems really clunky

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/open-close-open-twitter-twitter-gif-14219882

[real prairie]

Definitely feels like a BO1 team but its kinda fun

https://pokepast.es/d0cfe4654ece722f

[real prairie]

few options, After you into TR to get the TR up quickly, After you into slow mons, U-turn into tera grass weakness policy

well Sylveon doesn't work, it doesn't learn trick 🤣

WIP 😅

[scenic blade]

So I'm tryna get into comp but im awful at team building, I've made one on showdown before I put the time into making it on the game as it takes a while, would anyone mind giving it a look and seeing if it's any good

I don't wanna sit here and make the team if it's completley useless

[mighty stump]

How much experience with the metagame do you have at the moment

[scenic blade]

Pretty much zero

I'm not looking to become a master, I just wanna know if this team is worth making 😅

[mighty stump]

I can take a look. Only reason I'm asking irregardless of where you aim to play the meta has to be accounted for

[scenic blade]

Should I send it you in dm? I don't wanna overload the chat

[mighty stump]

Here is fine. Just send it via a paste and not a text wall

[real prairie]

use pokepaste 🙂

[scenic blade]

text wall?

i can only export and copy paste it i think

[gentle crag]

woodtofu (ID 250386799363489808)

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[scenic blade]

Ohhhh I see, thankyou

i figured it out

https://pokepast.es/b4377bd5948813bd

I know its probably not amazing, just remember I have almost no idea what I'm doing lol, a buddy of mine said to use maushold but that's all the input I've had on the team

[mighty stump]

And this is for singles?

[scenic blade]

i was gonna play doubles

[mighty stump]

Then i'll edit it accordingly and explain why.

[scenic blade]

tbh i didnt know singles were a thing on the game, i only ever see doubles content

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/19cc965b40b73e2c - edited.

• Ninetales recently runs Blizzard and Freeze-Dry together. 3rd moveslot is between Encore or Aurora Veil, with Sash variants probably preferring Encore due to not using Light Clay to lengthen AVeil's timing. Tera-type should be Ghost to avoid Fake Outs. Additional moves you can run is Fairy STAB, Icy Wind for Speed Control.
• Garchomp was fixed since Choice Scarf will not allow the use of Swords Dance (you'll just lock yourself into it). EQ/Stomping Tantrum/Rock Slide are standard moves with the last slot being either STAB Dragon Claw, or you can run Iron Head with Steel-Tera for better Flinch potential and coverage against fairies.
• Maushold is never going to run Flame Orb ever. If you intend to run Population Bomb + Support with Friend Guard, Wide Lens is necessary to make Pop Bomb more consistent. Otherwise you'd just be running Beat Up + Supporting moves to purely enable Annihilape.
• With Annihilape, the standard sets are Bulk Up + Rage Fist and Drain Punch. Even if you were to run an Assault Vest set, ti doesn't allow the use of Status moves so Stealth Rock is going to be a dead slot. I edited the EVs to be more correct, which we'll come to later, but it's just max speed Annihilape with 2nd bump in Atk with an HP dump for general bulk.
• Heavy Duty Boots is a non-relevant item since Hazards do not see play in Doubles. Stomping Tantrum is also a move that isn't run on Amoonguss since its not a Physical attacker, and it's not even STAB. Standard moves include a variety of things but the core moveset always includes Spore/Rage Powder. Other move options if you want offensive chip is Sludge Bomb, Pollen Puff (due to its 2ndary healing effect) or as you currently have, Clear Smog for the clear-stats effect. EVs have been corrected to reflect the supportive role.

Running out of characters so cont'd next

• Volcarona's moveset is fine, but you definitely want Protect on there since you don;t have Covert Cloak to keep you safe during Fake Out turns. Its up toy ou whether you want to keep Fiery Dance + Giga Drain or Fiery Dance + Tera Blast or Bug Buzz. Fiery Dance can additionalyl be Flamethrower or Heat Wave for Spread damage. EVs have been corrected for better general bulk.

EV wise, I think it's best you read up on VGCguide + whatever pinned resources we have regarding EVs since they are pretty inefficient.

EVing resources:
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-1-how-to-make-simple-ev-spreads
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-2-the-next-step-why-woul-you-want-a-more-complex-ev-spread
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-3

https://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ev_distribution

https://www.smogon.com/rs/articles/magic_stat_numbers#attack

[scenic blade]

Well damn, I wasn't expecting so much help but I massively appreciate it thankyou, I'll start working on it now

[gentle crag]

okami625 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/691b2698ffb95b19 how do i adjust this team to hit water types? what came to mind was to use specs dengo with tbolt or take out dengo + hydreigon for kingambit + something that can hit water types, any other ideas would help a ton

[real prairie]

@mighty stump is a G

[real prairie]

good thing i have thick skin or you lot might actually make me cry lol

[mighty stump]

its all in jest

[mighty stump]

wat water types

[calm gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/boxing-tom-and-jerry-jerry-tom-punched-gif-14995820

[real prairie]

i know bud dw haha

[mighty stump]

Pelipper dies to boosted SBall and is always a 2HKO anw and Prim is neutral to MIR

[dense latch]

i should be fine then right?

i think i just need to position my answers better

[mighty stump]

Which is also weak to Dire Claw

Yea

[dense latch]

how does the team look overall

[mighty stump]

Your strong/boosted neutrals will always do more than a non-STAB tbolt anw

I mean looks fine to me if you're ok playing double dragon

[dense latch]

yeah i wanted to try double dragon, thanks for the feedback

[real prairie]

@mighty stump

[mighty stump]

I saw

My wallet cannot take anymore hits right now LOL

I'm already getting my Pokemon tattoo

Had my consult done a few days ago already

[torn parrot]

I’m up

[torn parrot]

What’s this gonna be

[mighty stump]

Unown letters floating around

[torn parrot]

That’s pretty fun

[knotty mirage]

If i want to use electabuzz as follow me support is it better to use vital spirit or static ?

[mighty stump]

I'm probably gonna make it larger

[mighty stump]

Vital Spirit IMO

[knotty mirage]

Alright then and go for ghost tera right ?

[mighty stump]

Depends but that's fine

[torn parrot]

Bababa

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/464a0839cb73df5d

Variant of Ursaluna balance

[dull ibex]

vc?

[torn parrot]

People should try putting life orb magic guard clefable as a trick room follow me user

That way if it lives it can do damage

Give that mf a fire blast and gholdengo is done

Uwu

Some ou singles tech

[craggy dagger]

magic guard lorb reuniclus though

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[torn parrot]

@rustic mountain

Did you enjoy season 1 of one piece now that it’s ended

[balmy glen]

Anyone else getting bored of reg h

[solid frigate]

me

[mighty stump]

That happened ages ago broski

Im at a point I’m tempted to play with Glowbro

[rustic mountain]

season 1?

like of the live action?

[solid frigate]

shell Side Arm funni

[mighty stump]

Nasty Plot Gambling time

[balmy glen]

The people who aren’t tired of reg h surprise me with how they unite to tell me how the format isn’t figured out yet

[dull ibex]

weegeecee?

im giving the staple remover the funny hate

[torn parrot]

It’s a joke cus one piece is finally on a big break

6 months

[mighty stump]

Misty Terrain is gonna be the next big thing watch

[torn parrot]

Nope

[dull ibex]

its on the rise

[balmy glen]

Already was on it

[torn parrot]

Reg H is peak Pokemon for me

[balmy glen]

I’m on Weezing Galar Misty terrain stuff rn

[mighty stump]

Thats what I’ve been on

I wrote about it just now LOL

Are you doing Specs stuff or nah

[rustic mountain]

i mean r u jaded on a format thats 2 months old (1 month officially) or u jus dont enjoy it. i think like the latter is fine the former its a bit fast to get tired of a format imo there used to be formats for like 6+ month clips

[balmy glen]

Oh

No im on sitrus

[mighty stump]

I dunno what to do with it

[torn parrot]

Realized that Misty terrain solves a lot of problems at once

[balmy glen]

I’ve been just spamming eq with Tera flying Galar Weezing

💀

[mighty stump]

LOL

[torn parrot]

Dire claw
Spore
Terrain strats

[mighty stump]

Told u

But Flying GWeezing seems so counterintuitive

[balmy glen]

Are u working with anyone on it

[mighty stump]

No not at the moment

I have 0 connections

[dull ibex]

im insanely bored with reg h

[balmy glen]

moment

[dull ibex]

every archetype feels more interesting in restricted

[balmy glen]

I saw you comment on Justin Knox’s thing

[mighty stump]

I had some Kingambit GWeezing stuff

[torn parrot]

I wish reg H was worlds

[mighty stump]

Yeah just wanted to check where he was thinking

[balmy glen]

Kind of

[mighty stump]

Not much info gleamed but got some initial thoughts

Nothing much though

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen guess what

[balmy glen]

Thing is it’s a really good defensive Tera already for it so you just eq and sludge bomb spam the grass types anyways

[dull ibex]

I just jumped on sub ursaluna lmao

like 2 regulations too late

[balmy glen]

Chicken butt

[torn parrot]

I wish reg H would never end ever

[mighty stump]

Yeah pretty much

[chrome knot]

noooo

[mighty stump]

I mean if you’re open to working on something I’d be happy to join whatever you got

[torn parrot]

Reg H gives me life

[mighty stump]

I just had did a teamsmash and hoped for the best really

[rustic mountain]

yea reg h seems like a love or hate format

[dull ibex]

I might take a bit of a break from pokemon

[balmy glen]

I’d be down but I’ll hit you back up when I’m done with my mini break (so like a week or 2)

[dull ibex]

my internet keeps disconnecting me

[torn parrot]

Seems so

[mighty stump]

Yeah no worries

[torn parrot]

Im on the love Train

[mighty stump]

Do you have any first drafts you wanna shoot over

[balmy glen]

Crazy that out of all the formats this is actually the first that made me bored of vgc lmao

[mighty stump]

I can send something

Lol I thought I didn’t like Reg G but I grew to love it a lot

[rustic mountain]

what format did u start playing vgc keanu

[balmy glen]

B

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen toronto reg tomorrow you coming?

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok so u played damn near all of em

[dull ibex]

is it weird miraidon bs made me love G?

[balmy glen]

I didn’t start competing until reg d tho

[mighty stump]

No

[balmy glen]

I think so yes if I can find the funds

[dull ibex]

it hits hard and allowed to pivot around

[chrome knot]

W

[dull ibex]

it was a nuts team

[balmy glen]

I’m like $100 short so I might start streaming

[chrome knot]

offer coaching

[balmy glen]

Even if I don’t get $100 obviously from streaming I enjoy it and even like $5 would help lmao

[balmy glen]

Idk if I can coach for reg h

[torn parrot]

I’m going to kill all legendaries like the villain in Thor 4

[rustic mountain]

idm legendaries

i jus like reg h for giving mons a chance to shine that had no chance prior

[torn parrot]

I apreciate that a lot

[rustic mountain]

like sneasler is the big bad now, that guy was pretty mid b4hand

[mighty stump]

Give me back Chien Pao

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[torn parrot]

Not excited to fight Chien Pao dragonite again

[dull ibex]

Chien Plowed

[mighty stump]

Chien Plowed

My favourite

[torn parrot]

I forgot I have to go back to that…

[dull ibex]

tofu are you working?

[mighty stump]

Im working tomorrow

I got a packed schedule for the next week

[rustic mountain]

that was like reg c and kinda reg d, its really not as potent in a restricted format even tho some ppl still opt for it

[dull ibex]

join me and torrent for the minecraft stream lmao

[mighty stump]

Im working you boof

[torn parrot]

It’s inevitable there will be teams that run all the stuff

[dull ibex]

fair

[torn parrot]

I’m just not ready to ho back to the old ways

[rustic mountain]

yea but ur makin it seem like thats the archetype thats annoying haha its not gna b common. pao was paired w/ zama a lot in reg g

[torn parrot]

I have such a passion for low power level formats

[dull ibex]

I dont get it personally

[mighty stump]

I should have gotten a quip from you regarding your ferret stuff but I was overdue on my blogpost

furret

[solid frigate]

more like any physical attacker that is not Koraidon i think

[torn parrot]

Aw it’s no worries (:
it was a cool blog post

[mighty stump]

Next time next time

I’ve been looking to get more voices involved

[dull ibex]

dude im so sad about my netherrite armor 😭

[rustic mountain]

https://victoryroadvgc.com/2024-worlds/
other then a pao on a terapagos team and the zacian guy all the top performing pao teams had zama. my point was thats wat ull most commonly find paired w/ it not that u couldnt pair it w/ something else

[mighty stump]

How much you wanna bet Sneasler is gonna see more usage again in Restricteds with Miraidon or some shit

[rustic mountain]

i saw some person tweet sneasler and miraidon in pokepaste sneasler had electric seed

[solid frigate]

no god pls no

[pallid hare]

Huh, Shiny Comp Pelipper distribution

[dull ibex]

nothing on twitter

[pallid hare]

Check on serebii

[dull ibex]

its next month

[pallid hare]

Still, now everyone can have shiny flying toilet

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[torn parrot]

Wonder what team I’ll make next

I was thinking about a full pledge team because I had such an insane amount of fun with pledge

Some pledge combos are genuinely annoying as hell

[bold geode]

If it does I'm just jumping off a cliff

[balmy glen]

it prob will only because people got addicted dire claw moment

I aint changing anything on my worlds team tho ima just outplay so its kind of wtvr ig lmao

only thing id change to adjust to reg g sneasler is covert pelliper

[bold geode]

Zamazenta probably wouldn't be bad against the Sneasler, it's just the fuckin bike still

[chrome knot]

ill prob play zamazenta

[torn parrot]

Double restricted
We all know what’s coming

Zamazenta calyrex shadow

[chrome knot]

or cir again idrk, i love p2 in this current format so ill save reg g for another day

[chrome knot]

be more worried abt cir miraidon

[torn parrot]

Scary…

[atomic mural]

I’m gonna use that

[torn parrot]

Fighting ghost is such a disgusting type combo tho tbh

[craggy dagger]

[torn parrot]

And with wide guard zama can be an excellent support

[chrome knot]

and ice ground electric dragon isnt?

[torn parrot]

Nono ur right fam

[bold geode]

I would say P2 would have to deal with Urshifu, but technically P2 is dealing with Urshifu already

[torn parrot]

electric ice is just as gross

[chrome knot]

me when im electric rice

[chrome knot]

whyre u biting me at work go order food or something

[torn parrot]

Yes your an electric rice

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 881: Arctozolt

Types

Electric/Ice

Abilities

Volt Absorb, Static, Slush Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/100/90/90/80/55

Total

505

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

I prefer rice over a woodfire

[atomic mural]

Electric rice

[craggy dagger]

that thing
existed

[torn parrot]

Feel like mixed attacker arctozolt breaks all stall teams completely

[bold geode]

Hai Nova

[atomic mural]

What regulation is Milwaukee regionals in?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Sand Rush

If Sandstorm is active, this Pokemon's Speed is doubled. This Pokemon takes no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

what u gonna do when he pulls out the freeze dry, and electric one hit ko move

Nothin

Everything dies

[craggy dagger]

funny bolt beak

[torn parrot]

Stall as in singles by the way

[craggy dagger]

though iirc, dracozolt was more popular?
along with dracovish

[chrome knot]

whatever the may format is

[balmy glen]

What sucks in double restricted is I’m 2nd best Zama player and want to keep using Zama obviously but everyone will be mirroring me now lmao

[craggy dagger]

should be reg G

[bold geode]

What I'm wondering is how will the meta adapt after Worlds

[chrome knot]

it wouldn’t

[torn parrot]

Me format? Uwu

[balmy glen]

Not too much

It will slightly but most of the top players from worlds will prob just stomp with comfort diff

[chrome knot]

reg F was Jan-April, with G being May-Worlds Format

[torn parrot]

Mayhops Worlds

[bold geode]

I mean sure the adjustments for Worlds were decently optimized but like there's gotta be some adaptations
It's 4 more months like

But yeah comfort probably be good too

[torn parrot]

I feel like I’m so hyped up on caffeine today

[craggy dagger]

i don’t keep up with the scheduling at all so i wouldn’t know

[torn parrot]

I’m pretty sure that sugar highs are a myth and it’s always been caffeine

[bold geode]

Hell my only choice is do I beat or join the Low Kick Iron Hands

[chrome knot]

i tried coffee for the first time this morning

[torn parrot]

How was it

[bold geode]

While I'm thinking about it actually, you think either of the bikes are actually gonna EVER run max speed + speed nature?

Actually had a team concept for when it came back that Chien Pao of course could work with, but I fucking HATE the speed ties

[craggy dagger]

the first time…?

[solid frigate]

I run Modest Mirai lol

[craggy dagger]

don’t mirai usually run timid max though?

[solid frigate]

usually yeah

some people opt to run Modest to grab KOs probably

[bold geode]

Think more Modest tbh, although iirc Luca said a lot went for Timid but not max speed

[solid frigate]

also I'm still running Iron Crown and i am NOT gonna change my mind

[chrome knot]

yes…?

[torn parrot]

That doesn’t seem bad at all tho

[solid frigate]

i think Koraidon is the one doing that,Not Mirai

[bold geode]

It just sucks cuz sure they might not all go for it
But I always hated that with Chien Pao there was always potentially 3 other things that would tie it

[solid frigate]

cuz everytime i fight a Koraidon,they always outspeed my Miraidon

[solid frigate]

for the Bikes or Zama in the second sentence?

[bold geode]

Zama ain't speed tying the bikes bruh

[solid frigate]

oh nvm

but what i would think for Korai Pao is usually Pao goes First then Koraidon

That way you can Hard Focus on The restricted or Main threat while Chien Pao deals with Amoonguss if it EVER Redirects

but its just depends

idk if people do that often because i ain't a Koraidon user

[torn parrot]

I’m attempting to catch this shiny beldum in a regular pokeball

This will be the biggest feat of mankind

[solid frigate]

Dew it lmao

Suffer just like i did when i catch one

[torn parrot]

Let’s do this

How do crit catch odds work

[solid frigate]

i legit dunno

[torn parrot]

12 balls in at 1 hp and asleep and I’m understanding what I’m getting myself into

I don’t even get one shake

[bold geode]

Beldum's rate is low AF

[torn parrot]

I might run out of pp

Before I catch him

Hypnosis pp

I know he’ll run out

[solid frigate]

If i see Sneasler with Miraidon Teams I'm busting out Iron Crown

I do not wanna see that shit

[torn parrot]

I shoudl love this accuracy next time

FUCK I CAUGHT IT YES

IN A POKEBALL

[foggy lodge]

The goat

[craggy dagger]

um
idk what i’m doing

https://pokepast.es/28d00c9f8345bbe8

[chrome knot]

it was good i likey

[spiral ridge]

Any sun for leafeon?

Oh sunny day goodra nvm

[dense latch]

first time im ever seeing a Kee Berry

why ice punch over fighting STAB?

[craggy dagger]

deals with chomp ig-
prolly better to go cc though

[dull ibex]

I'm gonna try to get my best friend into vgc

What team should I start a complete begginer with

Like only has experience with pve as a kid

[craggy dagger]

also defense berry for being hit by a physical attack

[dense latch]

that's neat

[craggy dagger]

get them to start with singles pvp battles

before vgc

it’ll introduce the pokemon limit cap as well as the level cap

since in pve you can over level and burn through everything

[spiral ridge]

I love my level 100 skeledirge shitting on them

[rustic mountain]

me wen 1st figuring out vgc:
oh non attacking moves did have value

[spiral ridge]

Oh protect is kinda useful

Only kinda cus I learned during reg G with the fuckass bear

[knotty mirage]

We got kungfu bear and moon bear dominating the meta which is neat

[chrome knot]

who and what

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2223663028

thoughts on my playing this game

[dull ibex]

even on showdown?

I was thinking vgc only because I can offer help and explanations

I can not do that at all with singles

[craggy dagger]

let them build their pvp instincs

randbats is even better cause then you need to adapt

[spiral ridge]

this was not done with me at all

[craggy dagger]

so all those ffa randbats were nothing?

[spiral ridge]

those ffa were before i got into vgc and did not teach me anything 😭

[dull ibex]

yeah I dont know I get bulding instincts but thats a bit different from being thrown to the wolves (like me)

I was thinking about starting them off with hard tr and VGC guide

[craggy dagger]

pvp knowledge-
the knowledge of human unpredicatbility
but then again
if you have people around you then its prolly a good idea to hop right in

[dull ibex]

also vgc is just more documented so I dont think im going to start them off with randbats or ou

unless of course they want to do singles

[spiral ridge]

honestly an easy team i would say is prob sneasler pult? its pretty brain dead

p2 ursa is relatively simplistic aswell just theres some anti TR that can become much to remember who can or cant shut yuou down

[spiral ridge]

kris just hitting me with random shit and targeting

[chrome knot]

uh…?

[dull ibex]

no.

like no offense but sneasler balance is not braindead lmao

I was thinking tw ho but then realized its hard for a new players

[pearl wind]

maybe use a team with at least a few pokémon they already know and just play some games with your friend, talk about why you'd do what each turn and go from there

just simple stuff

trick room sounds fun (maybe)

[spiral ridge]

would you not call it that?

[chrome knot]

No

[dull ibex]

yeah hard tr is what im starting them with

[chrome knot]

finding lines on p2 is pretty intricate

successful ones that is

[dull ibex]

also p2 ursa is not simplistic

[pearl wind]

if they dont like trick room after a few games you can switch teams

[craggy dagger]

p2 ursa issssnt
simple

[spiral ridge]

alright sorry

[chrome knot]

hehe

[dull ibex]

nothing to be sorry about

I dont think sneasler pult is either

I think hard tr is the way to go

[molten oasis]

Hard tr in this economy?

[dull ibex]

I was thinking hard tr psyspam

because lilikoal is a little tricky

[chrome knot]

try joes team

[dull ibex]

which tourney?

[craggy dagger]

lilikoal is an added touch
but hard tr or psyspam is a place to start

[chrome knot]

Louisville

[molten oasis]

Why are we trying to get a hard tr team?

[dull ibex]

I find lilikoal difficult to play so he will definitely

[dull ibex]

im going to attempt to get my best friend into showdown vgc

[molten oasis]

Gotcha

[dull ibex]

his only pokemon experience is pve as a kid

so im going with easy to indentify gameplans and counter play

[molten oasis]

What do you have so far?

[craggy dagger]

i think
HO also isnt too bad-

[dull ibex]

hard tr psyspam

[craggy dagger]

just go fast n hit hard

[dull ibex]

HO is hard to play out of a bad situation

[molten oasis]

Why not start with hyper offense

[dull ibex]

he needs to know what to lead.

[craggy dagger]

its a simple concept
though you do need a lot of understanding to play around things

[molten oasis]

You’re not gonna know what to lead if you’re just starting in general

[dull ibex]

hyper offense is simplistic in plan, hard to play well

[dull ibex]

ight but hard tr has built in leads

[spiral ridge]

i think we are also forgetting he will be at 1000 if he goes to play ladder

[dull ibex]

its also what I learned what vgc was

[molten oasis]

You’re also playing on an immediate timer but ig you’re not wrong

[chrome knot]

pls do not introduce someone to vgc with psyspam

[molten oasis]

If only we had pao shifu

[dull ibex]

alright

[chrome knot]

i was dealt this hand and i missed out on so many fundamentals

[molten oasis]

Uhhh, I feel like sneasler pult could be a start

[dull ibex]

any other archetype ideas that arent tw

[spiral ridge]

just give them a few teams to play a few games with and see what they might just like playstyle wise not even how well they do

[craggy dagger]

you dont say...

[molten oasis]

Sneasler pult balance, p2 Ursa/Fari Luna balance

[chrome knot]

you only play gimmicks

[dull ibex]

sneasler pult is not the play I think

[craggy dagger]

i started with psyspam

[ebon cradle]

playing gimmicks is fun

[craggy dagger]

now i hate it-

[ebon cradle]

me with my tinkaton

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Idk what else there is, dengo balanace? Dozotatsu?

[spiral ridge]

ive used psyspam team for a while and i found myself never resorting to the psyspam side 😭

[craggy dagger]

at least gimmicks and niches need brainpower

[dull ibex]

balance is off the table

[molten oasis]

…

[spiral ridge]

dozotatsu honestly could be a good palce

[dull ibex]

balance is hard to play man.

[molten oasis]

Give him sneasler pult or dozo tatsu hyper offense then

I’m reaaaalllly confused on what you want him to learn

[dull ibex]

im not going to give him sneasler pult lmao

[molten oasis]

Why

[dull ibex]

its not that easy to play

its a balance team,

its a very aggressive balance team but it is balance

[chrome knot]

you dont have this

[molten oasis]

Dozo tatsu with specs dengo and talonflame shit idfk

[dull ibex]

dozo tatsu is an idea for sure

you seem annoyed lmao

[spiral ridge]

steel tera specs MIR

[molten oasis]

You want a team that isn’t tailwind but easy to play and learn the game with, isn’t psyspam since psyspam isn’t a good way to learn the game

[dull ibex]

I was okay with psyspam btw

[molten oasis]

I don’t understand what you want for your friend

[chrome knot]

balance cores will be yes

[molten oasis]

I don’t think psyspam should be how you learn the game either

[dull ibex]

I learned it with hard tr

it was normal hard tr I built myself

I think thats also a bad way to learn

[chrome knot]

its a good way to practice finding lines that feel rewarding

[dull ibex]

my fundamentals were garbage for a long time

[molten oasis]

Idt hard tr and psyspam the same but, imo they need a team that gives them chances to learn fundamentals

[dull ibex]

what do you mean the same

[molten oasis]

Like, idk if they’re lumped together as the same playstyle or not

[dull ibex]

oh no I meant him playing hard tr could be good

but building his own is a bad way to learn

[molten oasis]

With what mons

[craggy dagger]

and im not?

[dull ibex]

that im not sure yet

[craggy dagger]

ive just withdrawn from serious vgc completely

[molten oasis]

There’s like, Fari Luna and p2 Ursa besides psyspam

[dull ibex]

he won't have mon preferences btw

ig farig?

because p2 ursa is a balance team

and ive stated I think those are super hard to play

[molten oasis]

If you build it that way

[chrome knot]

silly girl status

[molten oasis]

Is the consensus of the balance archetype just extremely difficult to play cuz idk if I agree with that

[dull ibex]

yes because it is

[molten oasis]

Who else agrees with that

I’m on the fence cuz I started with balance and did okay

[chrome knot]

by nature its not “extremely” difficult its just a higher entry barrier

its tough to find lines into certain teams

[next stump]

medium ceiling highest possible floor

IMP

IMO

wait

opposite

[molten oasis]

Dillon what would be a good starter team for a new player this reg

[next stump]

medium floor highest possible ceiling

[chrome knot]

it has extremely high skill expression

yeah i was gonna say no way u think this cx

[next stump]

I think some of those tailwind + dragons teams are pretty easy

[molten oasis]

Chomp talon stuff?

Idt that’s a bad idea

[dull ibex]

ig im not opposed to tailwind I just don't like the idea because its really hard to play out of a bad situation

[molten oasis]

What do you want them to learn first?

That may also help narrow smth down

[dull ibex]

I don't care.

[molten oasis]

Or just give them multiple opti is to try out

[dull ibex]

as long as its fun and simple to give them space to learn

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[spiral ridge]

just

give them a few teams and styles see what theyre intrigued by

[dull ibex]

its not my team so its whatever you guys agree on

[dull ibex]

sure.

if you guys have pastes Ill throw them in a doc lmao

[molten oasis]

Dozo tatsu, chomp dnite/talon, uhm

I don’t wanna open showdown lol

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/12250263d34c7850 there is also this

[spiral ridge]

my first team was kyogre wo chien NAIC team

and it just became lead jug and kyogre and fuck around and find out for like 40 games

[dull ibex]

is giraffe luna bloodmoon or normal

[bold geode]

Bloodmoon usually

[dull ibex]

gotcha

ok do you have a six you reccomend?

if not im scrolling through labmaus now

[bold geode]

My only recommendation is don't let him touch Game8

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/5295399bf49143e7 is this simple

ill 252 252 everything for simplicity

[bold geode]

Also tbh idt there's a true right thing to start someone out with tbh

Playstyles can differentiate

[dull ibex]

I think I want it to be hard tr see if they like it

just because hard tr is how I learned personally

[molten oasis]

Give him multiple options but I get where you’re coming from

[bold geode]

Try one thing
If that don't work try another

See what works best

[dull ibex]

yeah for sure I just need the options first lmao

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

I'll kiss you

Drago looks like he wants smooches

[dull ibex]

also hard tr would be easier for me to explain

screw it im going to use the team I sent lmao

[molten oasis]

[dull ibex]

I miss this team

[molten oasis]

self proc guts lmao

[dull ibex]

honestly hatt indeedee could be good now

[molten oasis]

its okay i think

[dull ibex]

oops im stupid

I completely forget to ask him his playstyle lmao

[bold geode]

Or hell see if there's anything they like that's viable

[dull ibex]

I dont think he will have one

considering pve is always hyper offense

[bold geode]

You never know

[dull ibex]

ill get back you guys if theres any valuable info he gives me

[bold geode]

I liked Annihilape before comp

[dull ibex]

me too

[bold geode]

And Rillaboom

[dull ibex]

for me it was pult in swsh

I kinda hope he gives me a meme answer like typholosion

[bold geode]

I think an approach also of finding something he likes that could work is cool too

[bold geode]

So tired of those already

[dull ibex]

I figured these questions are useless here specifically

but ig it doesnt hurt to ask him

I figured id give him a team to try if he likes we can go from there

[molten oasis]

Typhlosions a cool Mon

[dull ibex]

It's great but it's a meme

[molten oasis]

Idt whimsi Ty is really a meme

[torn parrot]

Here’s what I think about balance

They are teams that ussually don’t play themselves so it’s easy to get lost. They are winnable into everything which makes them flexible

But it also makes them amazing into nothing

So you have to do a lot of thinking because every game is a hard puzzle

But the appeal being that you can win against anything with enough thinking

It’s like powered by brain power I guess

but also makes them not very fun

[dull ibex]

it is rn

those stories are wild I dont care about if its myth or not

[molten oasis]

oh

i thought you meant in vgc

i think that shit's hilarous

[torn parrot]

D:

I’m so lucky with egg hatching recently

got a shiny hisuian sneasel after one batch of eggs

Now I want another one

Looking for a female

[molten oasis]

nice

[torn parrot]

Bout ta jinx myself

[molten oasis]

dont do that lol

[bold geode]

The stories are so old
But let's just not talk about it here

[foggy lodge]

cool

[spiral ridge]

Ammounced

[atomic mural]

beem ammounced

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/hyBV6ko34XA?si=Mkw8lRZnJrCVweaw

[bold geode]

@dull ibex how goes the attempts

[dull ibex]

of what?

[bold geode]

Teaching your friend

[dull ibex]

oh hes not around yet

im waiting to hear from him again

[bold geode]

Force him to come out

[dull ibex]

that might not happen tonight how knows

[bold geode]

You should teach your brother

[dull ibex]

my brothers don't want to play pokemon

[bold geode]

That's when you tie him to a chair and use that turbo controller

[dull ibex]

I gave bridge stellar tera

[bold geode]

Ok

[solid frigate]

yeah HO Archaludon is fine with Turtle Hat

[craggy dagger]

turtle hat?

[atomic mural]

theres a mini terapagos on the stellar tera hat

[solid frigate]

Stellar Tera-

Terapagos Is banned in Reg H

Me with the Stellar Tera

[craggy dagger]

oh

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/d9a651c2a86b39cb

tried to make a super simple beginner friendly hard tr

[craggy dagger]

i don’t know if sd ursaluna is…
“beginner” friendly?
and it’s prolly better to charcoal the torkoal before-
then move into specs-
make them understand what the choice items do

but that looks fine.
psyspam is an okay starting point except that if you start with it it’s the only thing you’ll understand for a while

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/acbd17c7dd8299bd

[dull ibex]

earthquake is a bit risky idk

[dull ibex]

Im hoping the other pieces will help him not be reliant on it

[craggy dagger]

i don’t know….

[dull ibex]

im down to replace it with another setter

I could even do p2

[craggy dagger]

it’s not the setter-
it’s the
“okay psychic terrain is up, i follow me trick room turn 1, i click follow me and expanding force turn 2, rinse and repeat turn 2 until terrain is done.” and pray that you beat them before terrain ends

thoughts you have when using psyspam

[dull ibex]

and we can avoid that by ditching indeedee hatt

is there any good water types to include here?

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/6d400c6cbae0e7a7 chat, im making a reg g team and I think im cooking here

[craggy dagger]

water types with drought-
i mean.
araquanid can work?
it’s slow it hits hard with water bubble and can’t be burned-

[molten oasis]

Eq over sd, headlong rush over high horse

[craggy dagger]

bruxish maybe?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Dazzling

Priority moves used by opposing Pokemon targeting this Pokemon or its allies are prevented from having an effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

priority denial is always good to have

[atomic mural]

that what i said with a random groudon team i made and everyone laughed

[craggy dagger]

and it also gets trick room

[craggy dagger]

huh?

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/2a1d3034cf708690 new team

https://pokepast.es/f9c938c955a7b3ba heres the tailwind team

[craggy dagger]

scarf adaptability hm

[dull ibex]

its off tofu's blog

[craggy dagger]

mhm
i used to run it in reg E

[rare pumice]

plus/minus plusle/minun with entrainment and helping hand partnered with maybe heat wave + quiver dance volcarona sounds like a silly idea to me

[craggy dagger]

tera dark scarf adaptability with crunch last respects wave crash n aqua jet

dark was a defensive typing but i thought it would be nice to get the adapt boost so put crunch on it

[craggy dagger]

that-
do you mind if i yoink it-

[rare pumice]

go ahead

i'm more or less waiting for gen 10 to get back into competitive because i don't like gen 9 battles

[real prairie]

What type is almost entirely physical in the current meta?

Grass maybe?

[craggy dagger]

dragon

kinda?

[real prairie]

draco meteors no?

[craggy dagger]

darts outrage dragon claws

[real prairie]

i can't think of any Grass special attackers atm

[craggy dagger]

OH

[rare pumice]

i thought scale shot was the most used dragon type move right now or is that not really used in doubles

[craggy dagger]

ground type

[torn parrot]

I don’t think there is one

[craggy dagger]

i don’t see any earth power mud slap users atm

[rare pumice]

what about scorching sands

[craggy dagger]

i remember seeing leaf storm on something

[real prairie]

Earth power Bloodmoon

[craggy dagger]

forgot about that mon

[torn parrot]

I think all types have like a special and physical

Rn

[rare pumice]

doesn't tera blast kind of ensure that

[craggy dagger]

dark type is almost all physical

though i think i missed a couple snarls and dark pulses in the meta mix

[real prairie]

yeah trying to work out the best tera type for my Archaladon that encourages them to using physical attacks to boost stamina

[craggy dagger]

bug fairy

[foggy lodge]

Ground

Or even grass

[torn parrot]

Guess electric tera then

[craggy dagger]

i don’t know about keeping a weakness-

[rare pumice]

what about fighting types are there common focus blast/aura sphere users

[craggy dagger]

nope

[foggy lodge]

No

[craggy dagger]

focus what now?

[foggy lodge]

Unless you consider Porygon2 tera blast

[torn parrot]

It’s fine to keep a weakness sometimes

[real prairie]

Some other Arch run Aura Sphere if they don't have Stamina

[craggy dagger]

what

[foggy lodge]

some do it

But no stab on aura sphere so its honestly not that threatening

[real prairie]

Stalwart Power herb Arch run Aura sphere

[rare pumice]

i wouldn't really imagine stamina being extremely useful unless you switched out into a resisted move for the first stamina boost presonally anyways

[craggy dagger]

how much did the meta shift after louisville-

[foggy lodge]

Aura sphere Archa was there since Baltimore lol

[craggy dagger]

i’ve never seen it

[real prairie]

stamina is huge on AV Arch, turns the bridge into a tank

[foggy lodge]

what

Stamina is broken lol

[tiny karma]

Move: Body Press

Damage is calculated using the user's Defense stat as its Attack, including stat stage changes. Other effects that modify the Attack stat are used as normal.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

[foggy lodge]

If you hit Archaludon it gets stamina boosts and if you don't hit it gets SpA boosts with Electro shot

kek

[torn parrot]

Really annoying guy

[real prairie]

Guy that won Baltimore won with self set stamina with wide lense pop bomb Maushold

[craggy dagger]

that’s why sharpness sacred sword exists

[molten oasis]

Ok pick the defense boosts lol

[foggy lodge]

Archaludon is also a steel type so its naturally inmune to clear smog and most haze users are water types so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real prairie]

the other big haze user is murkrow thats flying type lol

[rare pumice]

if you want stamina boosts could you just partner with a beat up user though?

[molten oasis]

Well ig it depends on the team

[craggy dagger]

the krow would like to have a word

[real prairie]

pop bomb is threating, beat up isnt

[foggy lodge]

how does Murkrow help

[real prairie]

so can either target yourself or them

[molten oasis]

Haze

[foggy lodge]

I mean

Haze and then it dies to electro shot unless you tera

[real prairie]

that was my point

Arch isn't afraid of the haze users

[foggy lodge]

Sunny day Haze Murkrow would be the best i guess but many Archa are opting for Power herb too so

Power herb doesn't run stamina that often atleast

[real prairie]

nah power herb tends to run Stalwart

[rare pumice]

are there any archaludon rain teams then that don't need power herb?

[craggy dagger]

or sturdy

[torn parrot]

Stalwart is very rare

[real prairie]

haven't seen many sturdy, mostly because its super bulky

[craggy dagger]

rain is the power herb for archaludon-

[real prairie]

not if you have read @mighty stump blog lol

[torn parrot]

It is rare

[foggy lodge]

Its niche

[rare pumice]

that's what i meant i'm just wondering that since you don't need power herb in rain then what possible rain teams would it work on

[real prairie]

yeah stamina is the main one

[foggy lodge]

But its good

[craggy dagger]

doesn’t his latest blog cover the more niche unknowns-

[dull ibex]

im switching to av stamina arch

[craggy dagger]

it’s the best set anyways so might as well

[dull ibex]

I just need to find evs for it

[real prairie]

people bringing Arch with power herb usually are running it Stalwart to avoid redirection and are not playing in rain

[foggy lodge]

Its a nightmare of a mon, great stats, diverse movepool, great typing with only two weaknesses that in this meta are mostly physical moves so stamina helps a lot and 3 usable abilities

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-getoutofmyhead-cat-gif-24215722

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-pokemon-scarlet-pokémon-violet-hisuian-samurott-hisui-gif-12315290444065169740

[dull ibex]

im reworking the team in general tbh

[real prairie]

i was playing with some shed tail strats yday and did a shed tail into Arch which made someone just leave 🤣

super tank with a substitute lol

[rare pumice]

my favorite pokemon to have substitute on is ceruledge

then maybe gengar

[chrome knot]

@rustic mountain live update, team sucked

[real prairie]

i was having a good time with shed tail into Mimikyu, basically has 2 subs 🤣

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

on mattie p2 w/ some friends

[torn parrot]

There’s chance it’ll pick up at some point soon but i’ve mostly seen sturdy tbh

Not that it can’t be good

[rare pumice]

i'm interested in finding what the most effective pokemon to entrainment plus/minus onto would be

[real prairie]

lets me set up 2 swords dance at least without redirection too lol

[solid frigate]

ummmm None

[real prairie]

absolutely none

[rare pumice]

idk i think it's a fun idea

[solid frigate]

legit none would work Plus you have to mandatory run Ampharos or Plusle and Minun

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

its terrible+Misery

[solid frigate]

Nova do not-

[craggy dagger]

oh no my finger slipped

[rare pumice]

wait what about plus toxtricity then it wouldn't need to be entrained and it can spread damage with overdrive

[real prairie]

and then minum?

lol

[rare pumice]

idk ampharos also gets helping hand so who knows

[solid frigate]

Pros:
Maybe gets Choice Specs Boost

Cons:
Gets fucking wrecked
takes Multiple Turns to Setup
Garchomp Go Brrrr

[torn parrot]

I want dinner

[solid frigate]

then get it

[torn parrot]

Kk

[craggy dagger]

dededededededededededededene

[torn parrot]

I dunno about this tangled feet cooking
It’s probably the worst ability of all time 😔

[rare pumice]

battery eviolite charjabug is a fun pokemon too imo but i guess all it would do is sit there unless it's learned something super useful i don't remember recently

[craggy dagger]

why don’t you eviolite battery bug instead-

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/masteroogway-oogway-charmander-pokemon-cursed-gif-26942694

[solid frigate]

that at least i can get around with

[craggy dagger]

prolly is-

[real prairie]

only has Plus

[craggy dagger]

battery rain dance next to archaludon

[rare pumice]

charjabug could actually be good support now that i think about it using sticky web and electroweb

[solid frigate]

unless if its not Reg H

GO WITH CHI YU

[craggy dagger]

it doesn’t matter-
either plus or minus and u get the buff

[real prairie]

ive seen a couple eviolite charjabug

[rare pumice]

omg i change my mind

[tiny karma]

Charjabug's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bite, Bug Bite, Crunch, Dig, Facade, Lunge, Poison Jab, Pounce, Skitter Smack, Spark, Take Down, Vise Grip, Wild Charge, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Struggle Bug, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Baton Pass, Charge, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Harden, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Sticky Web, String Shot, Substitute, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Charjabug.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

im also seeing more and more swamp

[rare pumice]

string shot charjabug is way funnier idea

[dull ibex]

I hate these videos so much

[solid frigate]

Wait is it Reg H or something else

[rare pumice]

i'm using reg h for reference

[solid frigate]

More Pledge Teams Lets gooo

[craggy dagger]

charge baton pass into archaludon…

[tiny karma]

Move: Charge

Raises the user's Special Defense by 1 stage. The user's next Electric-type attack will have its power doubled; the effect ends when the user is no longer active, or after the user attempts to use any Electric-type move besides Charge, even if it is not successful.

Type

Electric

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

i mean actual format,like you play on Reg H or Reg G

[craggy dagger]

oh that’s not how it works :(

[real prairie]

my favourite strat ive used all of Reg H is Malamar into Donzo's and Arch's

[solid frigate]

My Tera Raid Iron Hands Uses This Move be like:

[bold geode]

Whatchu doin bestie

[rare pumice]

i'm not sure what the differences between reg h and reg g are i haven't been paying attention too closely

[tiny karma]

Move: Topsy-Turvy

The target's positive stat stages become negative and vice versa. Fails if all of the target's stat stages are 0.

Type

Dark

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

One has legendaries, one don't

[torn parrot]

Damn he doesn’t even have helping hand that’s really sad…

The bug I mean

[craggy dagger]

[rare pumice]

the one without legendaries would probably be better for this whole charjabug idea then just to keep it alive longer