competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

passive setters kinda not great

[dull ibex]

the game would be better with out statuses giving you a chance to not move

[foggy lodge]

Delete dire claw

[dull ibex]

rework freeze para and confusion

[torn parrot]

ha

like gamefreak will fix the game

hilarious

[dull ibex]

they already did.

legends arceus did

[torn parrot]

well maybe next gen

[dull ibex]

I hate para

[bold geode]

Para is rough but still alright
Confusion is not really bad
But freeze
Yeah rework that shit

Freeze is actually fucking stupid

[mighty stump]

What did I miss w Gen 10

I see twitter blowing up

[bold geode]

Can't talk about that here Tofu

[mighty stump]

nothing official then

[cyan smelt]

Lol I feel like I'm back at uni with learning how to note take properly so I retain information

[torn parrot]

it should only make you slower

[cyan smelt]

Frostbite was a much needed addition

[torn parrot]

this is how statuses should be

[cyan smelt]

Although two different teams worked on pla and sv so I'm guessing they didn't communicate with each other

[torn parrot]

frostbite: makes special attackers weaker
burn: makes physical attackers weaker
para: makes you slower
drowsy: makes you take more damage

i fucking hate statuses

except for burn

and poison

[cyan smelt]

Freeze is so annoying

[spiral ridge]

yup

[dull ibex]

Weegeecee?

[mighty stump]

Drowsy would be fucking OP wtf

[torn parrot]

well if we think about it as a replacement for normal sleep
those moves dont often connect anyways

unless its dire claw or hypoonsis

and arguably'

being unable to do anything is way worse

than simply taking more damage

😔

at least you can put up a fight

[torn parrot]

hey

did wolfey make it to day 2

[rustic mountain]

[mighty stump]

Yawn would be op since Drowsy status preludes the Sleep

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

7-1 i think

[torn parrot]

oh mb mb
i meant to say drowsy as in a replacement for sleep

mb mb

my bad

then drowsy is a bad name

[bold geode]

Sleep is fine

[mighty stump]

is it tho

[bold geode]

I can't cleep so no

[mighty stump]

bro said cleep

[bold geode]

But like I mean so here's the thing right
Does it stop you from moving? Sure
But the one thing that makes it alright for me

Is that there is a counter on it

[mighty stump]

Oh I think I should just be immune to Sleep in general

Just me tho

[bold geode]

You know for sure that
A. You will sleep for one turn
B. You are guaranteed to wake up after 3 turns if you make it thru em
C. You can wake up before those 3 turns
Knowing that is aight

[bold geode]

Idk sounds like your opponents were in G

[mighty stump]

HAHA

Nah in Reg G I had hella Sleep control

Yawnlax on top

[bold geode]

Bruh was the sole reason why I don't touch Sleep Powder

[mighty stump]

We dont talk about that

[bold geode]

Like I understand risk vs reward, but I literally just cannot look at that move and not think "if I touch this button at all I lose"

But yeah just knowing there is a limit on sleep turns is nice
Freeze though it's like "fuck it you might thaw rn, you might not, roll the dice bitch"

[mighty stump]

lol

[bold geode]

This is coming from a mfer who's been frozen for 8 turns straight at least 3 times

Like that's just insane and the only reason it's probably been left untouched is just due to the sheer fact that Ice mons needed help

[mighty stump]

u just suck

[torn parrot]

thers no counter to landing hypnosis

or dire claw

so someone took a sleep powder venusaur

and a hypnosis ninetales

with dondozo tatsu in the back

and said have fun fighting this

https://tenor.com/view/juvia-juvia-lockser-fairy-tail-water-mage-blushing-gif-491746434010845485

just dodge the hypnosis obvi

its so simple

btw dont get dire clawed ever

It’s like freeze

Freeze isn’t any less disgusting jsut cus the methods arnt reliable

[zinc totem]

"no smacktalks" gives up on round he lose https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2221963311 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2221964608

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump im at a loss bruh

where was sneasler pult mu

[dull ibex]

Vc?

[bold geode]

Dillon is out of top cut
Yotam can still make it
Go Yotam

[cyan smelt]

this team is pretty solid, currently 1475 with gxe of 72.6%

[dull ibex]

maybe I just can't play cart

[cyan smelt]

should i put tera blast fire on rilla for gholdengos and kingambit?

[dull ibex]

these servers are the worst servers known to mankind

[cyan smelt]

i'll stick with high horsepower

[solid frigate]

the liligant

[mighty stump]

Huh on what

I haven’t watched

[chrome knot]

sneasler pult is a fever dream

also watching yotam vs olivia rn

except yotam looks stressed and keeps staring at me its kinda uncomforting

[mighty stump]

Lol

[chrome knot]

like pwease stop looking at me

just trying to cheer on my friend

[spiral ridge]

This first game?

[atomic mural]

no idea

i think so

yeah it is

[spiral ridge]

Cool didn’t know if I missed a full one yet

[warped mason]

James almost threw that one

Hydreigon for the save

[atomic mural]

heat wave miss on ninetales 💪

[spiral ridge]

Damn wp

[warped mason]

F

That miss singlehandedly lost him that game

[foggy lodge]

MIMIKYU TOP CUT

[spiral ridge]

WHAT

[bold geode]

Norah Bowman
9-2

Running Mimikyu

[spiral ridge]

Hell yeah Norah

[foggy lodge]

Palafin top cut btw lol

[bold geode]

Huh

[bold geode]

Show team

[spiral ridge]

Palabalnce

[foggy lodge]

Icy wind Tytar

😨😨😨

[bold geode]

I actually kinda like this

Also 26 top cut is awesome

[atomic mural]

w

[foggy lodge]

Please Mimikyu top 8

[spiral ridge]

Egg??

https://tenor.com/view/peow0-gif-8055986

[chrome knot]

i played vs this team

[spiral ridge]

PSYSPAM EGG?

[foggy lodge]

EXEGUTTOR IN STREAM

[spiral ridge]

How was it?

[foggy lodge]

Could you see Exeguttor's damage?

why did he lead Rillaboom

[chrome knot]

i won

[spiral ridge]

Nice :)

[chrome knot]

they did that to my pult g1

i went hm interesting, locked in game 2, game 3 he tried full tr mode

each turn tr was up ursaluna lost an attack stat lol

[spiral ridge]

😭

Nice job

[chrome knot]

i didnt want torkoal coming in

so i just wasted time lmfao

[spiral ridge]

Understandable

[chrome knot]

so w 2 turns left i sac incin finally & kill gallade with facade :3

1 turn left i just protect & it seals up game

[spiral ridge]

Nice :3

[chrome knot]

yah

game 1 was the stupid fucking water amoonguss vs torkoal end game

where i lost by literally 1 turn wake up lol

[spiral ridge]

:(

[foggy lodge]

That will be a lot of damage to Indeedee

I think Indeedee dies

[solid frigate]

Did i heard MIMIKYU TOP CUT

[foggy lodge]

what is that play

just follow me kowtow

[atomic mural]

damn

[foggy lodge]

What is David doing lol

[atomic mural]

david really wants the egg to win

[spiral ridge]

He won terrain fight with that at least

[foggy lodge]

Good play

That's a very slow Gambit or a Gallade with speed investment

[spiral ridge]

It’s just either headlong or erupt to kill right

Ggs

Why not eruption?

[foggy lodge]

idk how you win this match up against Pult balance but he did

Goated

There's a pledge team in top cut with Grass pledge Rillaboom

😨

[bold geode]

Yotam is out

[atomic mural]

wolfeys in

is that papasea or am i insane

[solid frigate]

What is blaziken doing here

[solid frigate]

NOOOOOOOOO

Is Dillon out as well?

[foggy lodge]

I think he is

Let me check pokedata

Teams from the top 16

Only 3 Porygon2 in top 16

😔

[real prairie]

Just doesn't seem like i has enough damage output for how long it sits on the field

[next stump]

finished 8-3 missed cut by one round

[solid frigate]

i love how the first Team is just

Pokemon everyone hates+Dragonite

[solid frigate]

thats still Pretty good tho

[foggy lodge]

Damn

Still pretty good run

[solid frigate]

also Metagross top 16 lets goooo

[spiral ridge]

Good shit love

[foggy lodge]

EQ don't crit

I think P2 tanks this

nvm he tera'd P2 lol

Wolfey wins this

[spiral ridge]

That’s two mons to live on 8 hp this game 😭

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey top 8

[spiral ridge]

Oh yotam helped with his team sick

[bold geode]

Nah

Yotam had same team

[spiral ridge]

He just said on stream that was his main team partner so makes sense they’re running same thing

[bold geode]

Also did he really have those glasses on

[atomic mural]

he put them on and hit that pose

after he won

[bold geode]

Ah

Also Mimikyu done for

[spiral ridge]

Wha :(

[atomic mural]

bro only one set went to game 3 lmao

[bold geode]

Still 2 happening

[atomic mural]

yeah

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[spiral ridge]

12/0 shit

[foggy lodge]

Fuck Sneasler

[molten oasis]

Who’s gonna win

[bold geode]

Oh Confer on stream, didn't notice
Undefeated Dozo player damn

[bold geode]

Who knows tbh who will win it all
Wolfe is in top 8, unfortunately Mimi and Palafin did not advance to T8

Carson Confer is on stream rn, he's undefeated so far too so

Also in case anyone has seen it before and is wondering, Cloak Dondozo is for Sneasler

[real prairie]

stop the dire claw cheese

[molten oasis]

Man am I glad Im on break

[solid frigate]

how is people not prepared for it

[spiral ridge]

This game 3 is FAST

[foggy lodge]

I think Carson loses this

[spiral ridge]

He does vs a follow me water tera wave crash probably

[foggy lodge]

Just tbolt tera wave cras

[real prairie]

commentary: "coaching undoes the intimidate" ... on inner focus Dnite lol

[spiral ridge]

Tbolt?

Hm actually maybe yeah

[foggy lodge]

Nice

Wave Crash doesn't kill here

[spiral ridge]

Yup tbolt you’re right

[atomic mural]

ggs

[real prairie]

gg

[spiral ridge]

I didn’t know the speed my bad

[real prairie]

carson out lol

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey dodging the bad match ups lol

[real prairie]

Wolfe used Minimize

[atomic mural]

wolfes 10th regional win incoming

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/a7aae1541e3f5b98 this team looks interesting

[real prairie]

San Paolo announced

[bold geode]

GASTRODON THE BOY

[real prairie]

i dont understand why not clear smog the stamina boosts away

[bold geode]

It would still be +1

[real prairie]

well yeah but thats better than +4 and its SE damage

[bold geode]

Cuz it erases the boosts, then Stamina registers the hit

So it's kinda better since he has Ice Beam to just go for the damage

[real prairie]

wait did Rilla have u-turn? if not then fair

[atomic mural]

Nah it was high horsepower

[spiral ridge]

Is this just coming down to fake out coin flips

[foggy lodge]

THAT KILLED

[spiral ridge]

No tera on rilla?

[foggy lodge]

Ggs

[spiral ridge]

Wow

Ggs

[foggy lodge]

i don't get why would you not tera rilla there

[spiral ridge]

If he just terad he’d be okay

Actually win range with glide pressure

[bold geode]

Riley Factura and Joseph Ugarte is moving on

[whole ibex]

This gonna be me after reg h ends bro

[foggy lodge]

Me when every format

[knotty mirage]

After reg H it just go back to not needing to predict protect anymore

[molten oasis]

The opposite

For me

[whole ibex]

Smh

this regulation isn’t perfect but like wanting Urshifu feels like an abusive relationship /half serious

[molten oasis]

I’d rather fight shifu than sneasler

[knotty mirage]

Tbf shifu does get good amount of counter on recent reg than sneasler in this reg

[molten oasis]

My rng is also trash, at least ik shifu is gonna crit me lol

[whole ibex]

I can see why to an extent but Shifu feels like it breaks fundamentals. Atleast with Snealser its main issue is the fact it’s fast and has a volitile rng move but dumb rng is kinda everywhere.

[knotty mirage]

Not enough thing to check it tho

[whole ibex]

Also kinda weird we have been seeing a lot of water types since Shifu has been gone.

[knotty mirage]

Because shifu is the best non restricted water type

[bold geode]

Don't say this, Wolfe's Patreon Discord server just cooked me for this
Although still I agree lmao

[plain drum]

Just because you’re cooked doesn’t mean you’re wrong or whatever

[whole ibex]

So much that it made other water mons besides Waterpon, Peli and maybe the Water Bug obsolete

I will say I wish Snealser was not allowed in this regulation

[solid frigate]

Sneasler is still kinda ok if they back to only banning Restricteds

But like Yeah FUCK SNEASLER

[bold geode]

A lot of people think "oh there's less counterplay to Urshifu cuz it hits thru Protect"
But like I can name 10 things that can be counterplay for Urshifu
Meanwhile while I MIGHT be able to do the same for Sneasler, some of the counterplay once again doesn't work
Which same can be said for Urshifu too, but the added RNG is a bitch

[spiral ridge]

Andrew is adapting beautifully

[bold geode]

Cuz 50% is just too much
If it was like 30% I could live with it, but 50%
And sure it can be 16% depending on if you want a certain status, but still all of them rn are kinda detrimental so basically 50%

[solid frigate]

50% is like if you give 50% Flinch Chance to Air Slash

and Make it 100% Accurate

just as Infuriating

[bold geode]

They basically gave an Urshifu a no drawback gamble move that can pull games right out your ass
Urshifu doesn't have that lmao

[solid frigate]

Urshifu at least stays Consistent with its Crit and Protect Breaking which can be countered

[bold geode]

Like I don't hate the meta and I don't really hate Sneasler
But if I had to pick my poison between playing around Protects being broke thru or having to pray literally half the time that I don't get hit with the gamble, I'm choosing the bear

[solid frigate]

we love Urshifu moment

[bold geode]

Also hitting thru Protect ain't the only thing that makes Urshifu Urshifu (although it's a main reason)
Look at Iron Boulder
It can go thru Protect, but it's ass

[molten oasis]

People hate shifu THAT much?

[solid frigate]

and like hit through protect is like started in gen 7

[bold geode]

Idk
You know how stupid some Wolfe fans be

[solid frigate]

yeah,When Casuals play Pokemon VGC be like

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[solid frigate]

i think Shifu is fine tho

it has decent amount of Counterplays

[bold geode]

I think we have a G3 here

[solid frigate]

G3?

[bold geode]

Yup G3

[solid frigate]

i forgot what is the top cut bracket lmao

[bold geode]

Adaptations were nice

[bold geode]

Whoever wins this fights Exeggutor

[solid frigate]

ah i see

[real prairie]

wolfe vs exeggutor is karmic lol

[bold geode]

Other match should be Riley Factura vs Joe Ugarte

Lol tried to catch the P2

Also their Incins are speed tied

[spiral ridge]

No? Didn’t ursa move between them

[bold geode]

Fuck it all 3 might be

[spiral ridge]

😭

That would be funny

[bold geode]

This Ursa could have some speed we don't know what him and Yotam cooked

[spiral ridge]

Yeahh that tailwind ain’t gonna be good

If he parting shot instead of flare this might end better

Actually

If mega dies and incin come in he can fake out and do this

[real prairie]

god these matches are so slow lol

[spiral ridge]

He protected mega

Oh he lives okay

One more ursa attack

Ggs

[foggy lodge]

ggs

Wait no

nah

[spiral ridge]

He had to attack sus

[foggy lodge]

Nah it didn't matter

Andrew still has like 300 plays to win

Welp good run Wolfey

[real prairie]

dont think Wolfe is enjoying Reg H very much

im surprised he didnt take Arch into tera water Ghould

[bold geode]

This top 4 is gonna be interesting AF

Sure Rain has potential to win again but like
Rain
Sun
Exeggutor
P2 Ursa?

[solid frigate]

imagine Egg won

[bold geode]

Not to mention the fact that the Sun vs Rain is one match and it's Ugarte vs Factura

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hellmo-fire-chaos-egg-elmo-gif-25351800

[bold geode]

Wait is Sneasler on Riley's side Sash Unburden?

[solid frigate]

scroll back lmao

[bold geode]

What

[solid frigate]

scroll back to the match started

[bold geode]

He didn't bring Tork what

Should've clicked Overheat

[solid frigate]

moment

whos winning btw

[bold geode]

Oh there's Tork lmao

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/88810dd1fdc2225d found another team I liked

[bold geode]

Damn
G1 going to Joe

Wait
Wasn't the Exeggutor on a TR Psyspam team?

[solid frigate]

Egg

[bold geode]

If so, I hope it loses so I can continue spreading my propaganda about TR Psyspam being mid

[solid frigate]

Nah its called Psyspasm

[molten oasis]

Who’s winning

[bold geode]

Yeah the Exeggutor team is basically a TR team, I'm sorry I'm a hater now

Actually idk if it's really Hard TR Psyspam so eh you pass

[foggy lodge]

Eject Pack Torkoal kinda broken in this match up

[solid frigate]

its was kinda popular i think during Reg A-B?

[foggy lodge]

Eruption

i he clicks aqua jet pelipper

Hmmm

It's joever

0 damage

[solid frigate]

RILEY THE GOAT???

DAMN

Riley out,Joesph Made it in

[bold geode]

Wow if Exeggutor makes it to finals this will be very awkward lmao

[solid frigate]

i think If Riley win,he needs Torkal to Miss then Peli can Kill Typhlosion and Then Torkal

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222228658

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222230128

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Overheat vs. 244 HP / 84 SpD Amoonguss in Rain: 224-264 (101.8 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[bold geode]

Poltchageist said fuck them kids bro

[solid frigate]

lol

[foggy lodge]

what is this regional lol

Andrew fighting two teams with wacky mons in a row

Well not wacky but silly

[bold geode]

Good plays from Andrew

Why no Sacred?

Ah true

[foggy lodge]

Well i think this is really fucked for Parker

Gallade is the most important pick imo

Well that's it

Ggs, top 4 with Exeguttor

[spiral ridge]

Andrew murdering hun

[foggy lodge]

legendary player still

[bold geode]

That was so fucking quick

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[real prairie]

think i prefered it pre edit, just Andrew leaning over muttering to Parker "hun, come on now" 🤣

[bold geode]

Sun v P2 balance

[chrome knot]

we were Joes good luck charm😭

[foggy lodge]

Let's go Porygon

MY BOY CAN DO ITTTT

[solid frigate]

holy fu Double Kill-

Its not a Sweep yet Cuz Chomp can go nuts here

Garchomp go brrrrr

[atomic mural]

wild

[spiral ridge]

Wow

[solid frigate]

Incin Out

[warped mason]

Bro just scoops

[chrome knot]

he has no answer

[foggy lodge]

whattt

[chrome knot]

he had sneas chomp back which typhlo underspeeds

[spiral ridge]

Yeah just was crazy to see

[solid frigate]

It makes sense cuz his Remaining Mons are just

Dies in TR

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

[solid frigate]

He just dugged his Grave in G2

[spiral ridge]

It was over joe bringing gambit was best choice

I wonder why he trick roomed

[warped mason]

2 back to back games decided by the 1st turn

[solid frigate]

Gambit said:Joe who?

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-shaquille-o-neal-yo-moma-point-laugh-gif-4759702

[foggy lodge]

ngl i'd feel intimidated af if my oponnent forfeited turn 2

[solid frigate]

Imagine Andrew Lose his Regional Again

[foggy lodge]

C'mon Porygon you can do ittttt

[solid frigate]

Andrew might do another Shirt just like how he said Terapagos Mid lol

but lets see who can take it home

Patrick is Smart tho

[spiral ridge]

Holy fuck that knock off still did so much

[smoky hawk]

Man I tuned in so late

[solid frigate]

amogus in

[real prairie]

Feels silly not having a Incin counter

[solid frigate]

Gambit:

but if its Goggles

[spiral ridge]

Why’s he targeting incin down so hard?

[real prairie]

because its his biggest problem

[spiral ridge]

He needs to swap torkoal if he wants to affect it

[solid frigate]

yeah Andrew wins

[spiral ridge]

Wasting turns for a sliver isn’t good targeting

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222262270

[solid frigate]

it depends on what his final Mon

[spiral ridge]

Oh god sleep bullshit time

[solid frigate]

Sleep go brrrrr

[spiral ridge]

It’s over

[real prairie]

big time

[spiral ridge]

Ggs wp andrew

[real prairie]

oh look another 1st for Incin

[solid frigate]

Reason why Acrobatics is better lmao

[spiral ridge]

“My incin tanked 6 overheats for the win”

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-porygon-porygon2-love-gif-9521308133006980825

[solid frigate]

Acrobatics=>Leaf Storm

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-default-dance-jerb-q-gif-24304326

[foggy lodge]

What is acrobatics going to dooo

[real prairie]

if only he had a fire type counter....

[solid frigate]

welp Sneasler Balance is gonna still be a thing

fuck this

[real prairie]

Who did Joseph face to get that far that he got walled like that by Incin?

[solid frigate]

at least glad Andrew won a regional now

after he lost to Miraidon

[foggy lodge]

i mean

Inci was like only 20% usage in day 1

I don't remember the da 2 usage

[real prairie]

just realised Joseph had a Garchomp and didn't bring it over 3 games against Incin

[bold geode]

OH NAH

@dull ibex freaky ahh Wolfe

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[dull ibex]

🤔

[solid frigate]

anyways More Sneasler Balance

[foggy lodge]

LMAO

[real prairie]

Seems to be the way the meta is leading, but then thats what everyone wanted right? 🤷‍♂️

[bold geode]

Bro's hitting us with the World Champ Rizz

[foggy lodge]

"Here comes Incineroar, act normal"

[solid frigate]

lol

[foggy lodge]

Primamid

[real prairie]

interesting to see Arch retaining that usage without Pelliper

[solid frigate]

you could use Solo Archaludon-

[real prairie]

mold breaker ignores levitate right?

[molten oasis]

Who won

[solid frigate]

sneasler p2 Balance

yep you can quit Reg H now

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-celebration-woohoo-jumping-gif-25834998

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/rHYuftRg1-Y?si=FP7W68hhIF6dOqlq

Looks like Michael Kelsch is also stopping

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-celebration-woohoo-jumping-gif-25834998

[foggy lodge]

He is burnt

I think he really needs to take a break

He played dortmund, plays limitless tournaments, is going to play another regional the next weekend, spends his free time practicing

[solid frigate]

i think its a good thing to take a break

[foggy lodge]

In generao

He comes from the damn world championship after placing top 4

He is already qualified for this year's world championship

And keeps playing

Damn even when he is not playing VGC he is playing random battles

You end up hating the game

I hope he doesn't retire because he is a great player

[real prairie]

am i missing something on the back to back Hypnosis hits + a Dynamic punch hit? https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222321862-2ga007n38whewmi9yz5du4a9499r56apw

oh and a sheer cold

[rustic mountain]

incin shroom winning 😍

[molten oasis]

Your dearly beloved

[rustic mountain]

haha yes

cool seeing h typhlosion in finals

[chrome knot]

p2 yay but joe losing boo

[rustic mountain]

i like seeing new regional winners, that was andrews 1st i think

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

After 2nd place at indianapolis

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222344200-7mgapza2fl3l2uqaw32f09ftqx7slfdpw i love outrage :)) 1700 for the first time

[foggy lodge]

He deserves it

Also top 8 at worlds

[rustic mountain]

he said this upcoming worlds was gna be his 1st

[chrome knot]

he drove up w/ us so friend losing sux

new winner is cool

[foggy lodge]

Oh my bad top 8 at worlds was Zeng Chenyue lol

[rustic mountain]

oh u were the canadians he hitched a ride w/ i heard sierra mention that on the ohko podcast haha. also wouldnt u have drove down there?

[chrome knot]

YOU GET WHAT I MEAN

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

but yes, that was us

[mighty stump]

what won and who

[spiral ridge]

andrew zheng

[mighty stump]

oh nice

[spiral ridge]

his team was uhhh

[rustic mountain]

andrew zheng
incin-shroom-sneasler-dengo-p2-chomp

[spiral ridge]

ty

my ass was forgetting

[mighty stump]

P2 balance then no Ursa mode

Alr

[spiral ridge]

yup

[rustic mountain]

i had the stream open i jus skipped to the part where they show his team

[spiral ridge]

oh lmao

his uses of tr were more anti tw and just for sus far as i remember

[rustic mountain]

literally jus caught the set like 20ish ago

[foggy lodge]

Ursaluna and Garchomp are so good rn

The ground coverage feels necessary

[rustic mountain]

its coveted for sure

idk bout necessary

[foggy lodge]

Maybe you can slap a tera ground Porygon2 also lol

[foggy lodge]

Maybe its exaggerated

but its so good

[rustic mountain]

its very strong yea it usually is tho

grounds one of the best offensive types in the game

[foggy lodge]

I still miss like

A good special attacker ground type lol

[rustic mountain]

bm ursa is right there

[foggy lodge]

yeah too

But i think it has been struggling a bit on this meta

I think its really really good but people haven't found the right team for it

Nails's team used it

[rustic mountain]

yea was jus gna say it won the gc i think ppl jus have to reimagine how it plays and the av was a good call

[foggy lodge]

AV tera ghost was the best set at this regional

[rustic mountain]

how far did it get

[foggy lodge]

I think top 8

Or top 16

Also Mimikyu and Metagross got top cut

[rustic mountain]

yea so like it def has a place haha

[spiral ridge]

just gotta work it out

[rustic mountain]

mimikyu isnt too surprising metagross is kinda wild tho

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[rustic mountain]

havent seen much of it at all since beginning of the format

[foggy lodge]

Mimikyu has had a pop off the last days i think

I think Mimikyu will get top cut at the next regional👆

[dull ibex]

guys hear me out

[rustic mountain]

ppl r starving for decent fairy types

[dull ibex]

give incin follow me, we need another redirector

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

lets just quiet down now

[dull ibex]

(im not even sure incin would want follow me tbh)

[foggy lodge]

The pokedex says he likes the attention tho

[spiral ridge]

the main people it tanks are people who use spread moves 😭

[chrome knot]

yay norah on mimikyu

[dull ibex]

Just give it a mega

[chrome knot]

shes so silly (and shes hot)

[rustic mountain]

incin already has 4moveslot syndrome i doubt ud want that on it yea

[dull ibex]

it will get buffed though tbh

they seem insistent on buffing it

[spiral ridge]

parting shot now is -1 in all stats and sets up substitute for whoever swaps in

LGE/P ass move

[rustic mountain]

giving it more options it didnt need perhaps sure but i think its fine it wasnt anything super meaningful nd its useage has gone down a lot this gen

[dull ibex]

oh no i agree

it will get electro webs or something it doesnt care about

but it will technically be a buff

[spiral ridge]

only like meaningul buff they may consider is raising will o wisp accuracy

even the tiniest incraese would prob feel awful to face

[dull ibex]

make wisp 100% and makes status' temporary

[rustic mountain]

that would b weird haha atleast helping hand and knock off make sense ones stab the other jus a general support move and incins got those glove hands

[dull ibex]

I really like how legends reworked everything tbh

[spiral ridge]

yeah but its not like its adding a move and wisp is used by a few

[dull ibex]

also take away the chance not to move from para

I understand variance is important like crits and stuff but statuses do not need to be so wacky imo

[rustic mountain]

but wisp was part of incins kit from the moment it was allowed

unless ur saying something else here

[spiral ridge]

im saying a buff id guess is something indirectly for it like wisp gets increased accuracy by like 5% or something

[rustic mountain]

oh ok

[spiral ridge]

what did it sound like

[rustic mountain]

sounded like u were sayin wisp was one of the new moves for it and its still only used on a few of them

[spiral ridge]

ohh

no i meant its not adding a new move to its kit and wisp is used by a few mons

not few incins

[rustic mountain]

i dont see wisp getting touched, anymore and its a little too broken imo its accuracy is fine where its at

but i see wat u mean in terms of indirect stuff

[tiny karma]

Move: Will-O-Wisp

Burns the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

oh i thought it was 75

nvmmm

[foggy lodge]

Well i think we'll have to wait until tomorrow for victory road's teams

[spiral ridge]

feels like 75 when i use it 😭

[foggy lodge]

Also i think people should be prepare for Wolfey's team lol

And Vivillon variant of it

[rustic mountain]

anymore nd u go to the very guaranteed category and sure u can play around it but having such a high chance to burn and cripple a physical atker like that jus seems too much. it seems small going from 85-90 but it changes a lot imo

[foggy lodge]

I'm sure someone will grab Wolfey's team and just replace Yanmega with Vivillon

[spiral ridge]

yeahh no i thought i was saying 75-80

90 for halving damage fuicks over any non stat raising physical attackers

[rustic mountain]

thing w/ weird wolfey teams is a lot of ppl will pick it up as is, and jus not even use the team to 70% capability

and then u jus get ez wins

[foggy lodge]

idk is kinda funny how people just copy wolfey's teams because "oh wolfey's team for sure is good" when it's just a meme team

Most of Wolfey's teams are content tbh

Except the ones he ran during 2024 season

[rustic mountain]

idk bout meme team i think wolfey jus understands the team in a way most ppl dont. unless its like the golurk team that is very meme

hes usually not rolling up to irl tours w/ complete meme teams he def had legit reason for picking yanmega

[foggy lodge]

maybe

Atleast from what i saw in his games i had many moments where i thought "damn Vivillon would have already won this"

But maybe he had real reasons to pick Yanmega

I suppose he will release video or something explaining why

[rustic mountain]

that stuffs locked behind patreon paywall now

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[rustic mountain]

nd hell release some vid in 5 months thats over an hour titled how i almost won louisville regionals w/ yanmega

[spiral ridge]

and ill watch all of it

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

[bold geode]

It's ok, I'll be enjoying the team if he does

[molten oasis]

Wolfey's trolling

like idk how seriously he's taking this format if at all

[bold geode]

I talked with Yotam and he did say that it was mostly a joke lol

Which like hitting top 8 is a pretty crazy joke

[rustic mountain]

fair enough ig haha

[rustic mountain]

enjoying the team wen reg h is dead and will never return?

[molten oasis]

a dream come true

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-celebration-woohoo-jumping-gif-25834998

[rustic mountain]

bruh

[molten oasis]

this format broke me

i hate this format lol

[bold geode]

Nah I got his Patreon

[molten oasis]

i have things to fix before reg g 2

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

CSR Electric Boogaloo

[rustic mountain]

u watch mdbs vid

[molten oasis]

miraidon 2 electric boogaloo makes so much more sense lmao

[molten oasis]

uhhh, no

i should, haven't found it

[bold geode]

I bought it after he used the No Guard team but I never wound up using it lmao

[molten oasis]

thats wild monke

[gentle crag]

https://youtu.be/rHYuftRg1-Y?si=FP7W68hhIF6dOqlq

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[bold geode]

But also like not to be a shill
It's not that bad

[molten oasis]

i'll put it in my tab so i dont forget

im doing a dnd session atm

[rustic mountain]

i havent finished but i think some things he goes over u might relate to

[molten oasis]

ight

[bold geode]

I haven't watched it, but I saw comments on how he was addicted and how he felt he needed to prove himself and I'm like "damn that's me"

[molten oasis]

me too bruh

[rustic mountain]

yep

theres more to it he explains in the vid but p much the basis of it

[molten oasis]

what convenient timing

[solid frigate]

the format almost broke me

I have serious headaches rn

[chrome knot]

bruh

[molten oasis]

maybe dont play vgc with headaches?

[solid frigate]

i just look at the teambuilder and that happens lol

[molten oasis]

just use sneasler its the new shifu

[solid frigate]

i am using it lol

[torn parrot]

wild

[torn parrot]

thats the best part about the format

[molten oasis]

and i take things seriously so i have a different view

[shadow wind]

T500 with Houndstone, blazinga

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bang-theory-sheldon-cooper-bazinga-ballpit-gif-3558458

[shadow wind]

Blazinga

[molten oasis]

there's no gif for blazinga

[shadow wind]

How I felt hitting Amoonguss with a 180 BP move(It lived very easily)

[chrome knot]

i don’t understand playing games you dont find fun

[molten oasis]

its called an addiction

[chrome knot]

just turn the game off bruh

[true steeple]

Are Armarogue, Eiscue and Stonjourner all non-physical attackers? And do any of them benefit from trick room/having 0 speed IV?

[molten oasis]

they do but idk why you'd use anything but armarouge

and eiscue and stonjourner are physical attackers

[foggy lodge]

@molten oasis if it helps you can shiny hunt A9 https://x.com/SerebiiNet/status/1845604164778476006

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Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

Or maybe you already gave it idk

[molten oasis]

my time has come to get a marked shiny a9

[true steeple]

Just asking for the raid event next weekend

So all four of them are best at 0 speed IV?

[foggy lodge]

We don't do raids here

Atleast most of us

[molten oasis]

oh, idk if uh

i have violet

[true steeple]

I asked here because some ppl who get the raid bosses might want to have them at competitive builds

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

From what i understood all the outbreaks will appear in both games

[molten oasis]

oh good

[supple kite]

Can someone give me advice for my team

[dense latch]

what's your team

[bold geode]

Honestly kinda hard lol

[spiral ridge]

come play hollow knight

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

peak game

[molten oasis]

ur addicted

[chrome knot]

idgi if u don’t plan on attending irl events what is even there to get worked up and frustrated over

to where its an addiction & cycle of nothing liking the game and playing anyway

[bold geode]

It's not that I don't plan to first off, it's that I can't
But I still have goals of getting better
It's hard to explain but it's there
It's a hobby of mine and I enjoy it and I want to get better at it
And frankly if you don't get that I really don't care

[bold geode]

Sparking Zero first lol

[spiral ridge]

real

[chrome knot]

yet the second part of what i said is just unhealthy :v

[bold geode]

But I love the game

[dense latch]

goty

[bold geode]

Otherwise I wouldn't be playing

Sure I'm taking a small break rn but as much as I grind, I could probably use one lol

Now if you don't like it but are addicted, sure that's another thing but at least not the case for me 🤷‍♂️

[chrome knot]

i was specifically talking ant being addicted and not being able to stop playing if you don’t enjoy playing

[shadow wind]

How bulky do most Archaludon run? I checked some sites and they all say max max with no bulk but I swear to god they run a lot of bulk

[bold geode]

Yeah that can be a problem but it's also hard to put down
It is an addiction after all

[whole ibex]

Arcanine?

[shadow wind]

Alolan Ninetales

[shadow wind]

Dumb how they made 2 fire types that both include "nine" in their names for Gen 1

[glossy yacht]

By chance can anyone help with BP group quests

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-up-beating-up-lilo-fight-beat-up-beat-down-gif-19482217

[molten oasis]

wha?

[molten oasis]

im dying

[strange fjord]

Its all the AV and Stamina that make then feel bulky. There could also be niche bulky spreads. You could always calc if case you suspect bulk

plenty run min max but its not unheard of for bulk.
about 60% run max speed so the rest that dont must invest in bulk. so about 40% have bulk that isnt min max

[knotty mirage]

Is there even anything that can ohko archuladon in this reg i never see any pokemon achieve that even with super effective move

[strange fjord]

252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 68 SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 195-229 (98.9 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

but then they tera

i usually go for
252+ Atk Sharpness Gallade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 198-234 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

or chip it down with my team

(Fake Tears Ribombee lmao)

[knotty mirage]

So ursa with life orb and gallade alright then

[strange fjord]

cant OHKO the Sturdy variants obv

[cyan smelt]

how common is tera ghost

[knotty mirage]

I mean is there even people who use sturdy variant in this reg anyway

[strange fjord]

ive seen a few

Powe Herb Sturdy sets

[cyan smelt]

my guess is if it's not next to pelipper it's power herb

[strange fjord]

usually but then I lost game where they had sturdy and pelipper

sturdy actually quite common

on higher Glicko

[cyan smelt]

i played one where they had power herb then terad, their dnite set up tw, then the dnite used haze for some reason, i'm still confused

maybe it was a misclick

[strange fjord]

very different arch usage on lower rated players vs higher

[molten oasis]

[cyan smelt]

lessgooo up to 1500s

[rigid crane]

What’s a good nature for latias?

Can’t decide between modest or timid

[knotty mirage]

I mean depend on what you want to use it for

[solid frigate]

Either is fine

[torn parrot]

sir

sir...

[torn parrot]

NIIICEE JOBBBB AAAAa

[cyan smelt]

i fell down again

[knotty mirage]

Is that showdown usage i mean i never play in there so fair enough

But in my experience playing in game ladder i never seen sturdy all of them use body press stamina

[torn parrot]

could make a difference but its the same game

[torn parrot]

its okay fam rank is always fleeting

[cyan smelt]

wow magmar gambit is a good lead

[cyan smelt]

yeah but my rank has tanked

[torn parrot]

indeed

[cyan smelt]

how is exeggutor faster than dragapult?

[torn parrot]

chlorophyll

[cyan smelt]

but it only has 55 base speed

[torn parrot]

your evs get doubled on top of your normal speed and the stats add up

modest max speed egg is 107

when you double that its 214

1 point faster than dragapult

who is 213

[cyan smelt]

damn

[real prairie]

I had a dream last night... Shed tail into swords dance mimiku

[cyan smelt]

i had a dream that i was good, then i woke up

[real prairie]

i think its more concerning im dreaming Pokemon showdown than that the stategy is probably better than what id come up with awake 🤣

[torn parrot]

i have showdown dreams sometimes where im in a never ending battle

it keeps going on forever

no matter what i do it's just infinte swapps and chipping and swaps

it defies all logic

😭

[real prairie]

sounds like that Wolfe match from yesterday

[chrome knot]

Wolfe vs Andrew was a selling competition

[real prairie]

Fear the Mimikyu https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222620947-3doqh9wvsjtaj84io6dy5wnzn47dtf0pw

[cyan smelt]

pretty funny

i swear i can't retain any information anymore, like i'm studying up on vgcguide and the information just dissipates

[dull ibex]

I finally found a hard tr team without liligant

[chrome knot]

eggs

[cyan smelt]

You know I might just try this with kingambit

[dull ibex]

annihilape is so good with strats want sweepers to swap in

[real prairie]

Mimi works because of the 2 layers of substitute thanks to Disguise

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to kal0sunleashed

[cyan smelt]

Oh nice

I forgot about disguise

[real prairie]

although i need something in my team to stop coaching + Garchomp, its lethal lol

[cyan smelt]

And you have drain punch to recover hp

[real prairie]

might up the speed on my Cyclazar so it can go a turn 1 ice spinner into Chomp

[real prairie]

for Ape?

[cyan smelt]

For mimikyu

[real prairie]

oh wasn't running drain punch, was running Shadow sneak + Play rough, but its an idea

[cyan smelt]

I think I need to up the speed on my magmar

[chrome knot]

tera fire time

[cyan smelt]

Or steel

[chrome knot]

Andrew Zheng team was tera fire chomp

[real prairie]

mmhh true

if i lead whims i can at least cotton spore it so i can get my moves off before it

[dull ibex]

man I can't believe sash gambit just lost me a game

[cyan smelt]

I've noticed my team struggles against anything with scale shot

[chrome knot]

its a trick room team keep in mind

[dull ibex]

tera ghost kingambit????

I dispise this format.

[cyan smelt]

Same

[chrome knot]

how normal…?

avoids cc

[dull ibex]

its not at all common like remotely

[cyan smelt]

Might change my gambit's tera to ghost, avoids body press and fake out too

[dull ibex]

the only upside is now its dark type is gone

https://pokepast.es/db368b5ebe6ba657 thoughts

[foggy lodge]

Jolly Gambit kinda broken

[real prairie]

stops the early EQ double KO cheese

[dull ibex]

imprison who?

gallade is also an option for the team

bro they lead chomp and a9 into armadee 😭

wideguard went brrr

not a single dark type to stop eforce either

its time boys

[real prairie]

ooo wide guard would be fun

[cyan smelt]

Why isn't there narrow guard

[chrome knot]

thats just protect

[dull ibex]

I need to work on my piloting but so far its insanely fun

especially when it legit just stops all damage because they lead double spread moves

[next stump]

hey is san antonio Reg H or Reg G

[chrome knot]

when is it

[next stump]

ah shit I thought it was the first weekend in january

it’s january 24th

[chrome knot]

Reg G

[bold geode]

There's pulled pork but why no pushed pork

[real prairie]

over and under whelmed, never whelmed

[solid frigate]

oh god lol

[cyan smelt]

Maybe tera ghost kingambit will also help against annihilape

[solid frigate]

ehhhh you still die to Rage Fist

Hmmmm

[cyan smelt]

Magmar can redirect

[solid frigate]

ok fair enougu

[cyan smelt]

What I like doing is redirect with magmar while gambit sets up sd

[pallid hare]

That's just making sausages

You push pork (or other things) into a casing

[polar canyon]

How do I get back into pokemon again

It's no longer one of my hyperfixations but I want to get back into it

Hi guys

[foggy lodge]

Look at the vgc vods

Yesterday was Louisville regional so maybe it makes you want to come back at the game

[chrome knot]

step 1 is dont force it

youll find you enjoy it even less

[bold geode]

Yeah easing into it is good thing
Getting back into it I'd really just play what some others are playing too
Seeing as you've not been around for a while things of course change so it's good just to catch up at first before trying to put something together yourself
At least how I look at it

[winged geyser]

is a team of four riolus and 2 lucarios a good team for casual battles?

[foggy lodge]

[cyan smelt]

I think my team sucks and I'm gonna have to come up with something different

[molten oasis]

[winged geyser]

they're all shiny too

[molten oasis]

1 guy with earthquake is gonna demolish you

[winged geyser]

well riolu doesn't have a ground weakness

[molten oasis]

Riolu has no bulk

[winged geyser]

well one of them has focus sash

im cooked aren't i

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2222851800-swvwvfgjpsof27gawqtptqitzj6w6mtpw i love wen they serve me primarina on a silver platter

[real prairie]

The more I build in Reg H for the more it feels like I'm getting further and further from what I'm looking for 🤣

[torn parrot]

What are you is you looking for are is you

[dull ibex]

anyone got a team that does really well into tr?

I want some practice using my tr core against and using my normal balance core

[next stump]

what kind of TR

i think my louisville team shits on psyspam

[chrome knot]

^same

[timber falcon]

What the heck did typhlosion do

Is this some small prank or is this true ?

[solid frigate]

what the actual-

1.No
2.why

[winged geyser]

they are all shiny too

i have no life

[solid frigate]

yep you gonna get cooked-

[winged geyser]

they also only have final gambit for attacking moves

[solid frigate]

Final Gambit Scales off HP

[chrome knot]

/:

[winged geyser]

ik

[winged geyser]

i actually won a battle because the person forfeit

they were too flabbergasted

[chrome knot]

this chat is for the official vgc circuit ._.

[winged geyser]

oh

sorry

[solid frigate]

i'm losing braincell the more you said

[chrome knot]

@solid frigate protip: dont make a team with little to no consistent a9 answer

[winged geyser]

should i make a mono-poison team?

[solid frigate]

thank god i love Gambit

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[chrome knot]

av gambit goes hard yeah

[solid frigate]

1.Poison is like one of the Worst Defensive Type
2.Why.

[chrome knot]

my only a9 answer was incin/ghold but hard to find a way there

[winged geyser]

because sneasler

[solid frigate]

even Black Glasses Or Goggles are Viable so yeah me love Gambit

[solid frigate]

thats it?

[winged geyser]

and pecharunt

[solid frigate]

Ground Types are gonna have a Field Day

[winged geyser]

but wait

[torn parrot]

I’m going to

[chrome knot]

Mayaaaaa

[torn parrot]

Hiiiii

[chrome knot]

haaiii

I choked points placement for louisville :<

[solid frigate]

Maya can you deal with this my brain grew smaller after that Convo

[winged geyser]

i just remembered my team with just magikarp

i won a tournament with that team

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-honkai-star-rail-gif-9599747684062399919

[winged geyser]

splash OP

do you want to see my normal team when im not messing around

i send screenshot

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-warm-hug-depressed-hug-gif-4585064738068342394

It’s okay ya did good

[solid frigate]

wait Emma How many points left?

[chrome knot]

wha

[chrome knot]

4-4 felt pretty decent, play was pretty good so i was happy with it ^-^

[solid frigate]

honestly better than Negative Ratio

[winged geyser]

i just got an idea for a ful team of cosmog

[chrome knot]

i hit unwinnable mu round 8 rofl

shouldve been 5-3 but

ugh (!!!)

[solid frigate]

against what archetype tho

[chrome knot]

maus arch, and fairy maushold is almost unwinnable for me

[solid frigate]

Fairy Maushold huh

[chrome knot]

mhmm

[spiral ridge]

They literally did it instead of ghost cus no tera shards

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[spiral ridge]

Painful shit but you did good Emma

[solid frigate]

how to not massively hoarding your tera shards lmao

[torn parrot]

Fairy maushold is specific dayum

Guess it’s for dragapult

[solid frigate]

i don't think it good for anything outside of Dragon Types

[torn parrot]

IT CAN TANK BUG TYPE MOVESS WOOOOOO

[spiral ridge]

YEAHH ANTI U TURN

[solid frigate]

Gambit:Allow me to introduce my head

[spiral ridge]

[chrome knot]

yeah and the reason for it was

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-pokemon-anipoke-angry-slash-gif-14820177674225012411

[chrome knot]

“I ran out of ghost shards so i made maus fairy instead”

i was ready to sob lmfao

[torn parrot]

Lemme just say how thankful I am of fairy types contributing to making bug types shittier

Good job

[spiral ridge]

:)

[solid frigate]

Kingambit after Maushold Tera's Either Fairy or Ghost

[spiral ridge]

King gambit is one of the sadder things to see lose because when it does it’s usually just it sadly trying to sucker punch and it just not saving itself 😭

[torn parrot]

Something similar happened to me and I got pissy

It was like a long time ago I was in a tournament and in the teamsheet it said “Tera ground gyarados” so I didn’t click Thunderbolt into it the whole time

So then after I lost and then the guy was like “oh yeah I actually didn’t have enough shards for tera ground, so it was tera water the whole time”

And I could do shit because he was the one who hosted the tournament and I’m livid about it to this day

[spiral ridge]

One of the last streamed games of like 3 failed sp into chomp lmfao

[spiral ridge]

That’s so fucking shite

[solid frigate]

BRUH

[spiral ridge]

[dusty sable]

yo is arena trap allowed in the current format

[solid frigate]

if that pokemon has that then yes

[dusty sable]

ok

[rigid crane]

Gamefreak servers acting up again, I can't download rental teams

[chrome knot]

wtf

thats fucked up lmao

[chrome knot]

all of which was planned for, the pop off was so crazy

[solid frigate]

tournament Bias in the fullest

[spiral ridge]

Oh was there a lotta yelling?

Man I wish I traveled for day two of balti so I coulda been there for the population bomb count :(

That looked so silly

[dusty sable]

what is the strongest dark type attacker in the current format

[chrome knot]

fuck yeah everyone was poppin off

[torn parrot]

Kingoober

https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-pokemon-anipoke-angry-slash-gif-14820177674225012411

Priority move defiant strong

[solid frigate]

Gambit and thats it

[torpid venture]

Rate the team terrakion
252 Speed/Attack
miridon
252 Speed Sattack
Ting lu
252 hp 100 def/spdef
56 attack

[torn parrot]

I don fuckin know

[solid frigate]

Pokepaste

pls

[rigid crane]

Anyone want to Play Competitive in SWSH?

Currently in Pokeball lvl 4 tier

[dull ibex]

whats a common arch spread

[torn parrot]

Nobody knows

[bold geode]

Depends on ability, though Stamina sets kinda vary

[dull ibex]

stalwart

I just need a stalwart set really that and tera electric seems genuinely fun

[bold geode]

Stalwart can probably get away with the testing of max max then adjust

[dull ibex]

max max what? speed spa

[bold geode]

Ye

[dull ibex]

what nature

[bold geode]

Modest I'd say

[dull ibex]

ok, too the trade channels!

[bold geode]

Didn't I give you an Arch dumbass

[dull ibex]

its not trained

im broke again

[bold geode]

Story of your life

[dull ibex]

who are you

[bold geode]

Ask your mom

[dull ibex]

anyways yeah

I want to run the p2 balance core with arch and pelipper

[bold geode]

Probably can get away with Stamina set too there if Stalwart dont work

[dull ibex]

yeah maybe

oh what item since I have rain

av?

[bold geode]

If you fully wanna rely on Rain, Lorb
If not P Herb

[dull ibex]

oh orb?