competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

[cyan smelt]

Ursaluna is annoying

[solid frigate]

yeah fair enough

[cyan smelt]

Torkoal can be too

Maybe I really should add lycanroc dusk to my team

[solid frigate]

i kinda just beat it last match

[cyan smelt]

What's your team

[solid frigate]

sneasler Pult

[cyan smelt]

Same

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/75df53b54486e38d

[cyan smelt]

Mine's the exact same comp lmao

[solid frigate]

yeah but not same EVs,Tera and Moves

[chrome knot]

prim needs to be a poison type

you double into losing to sneasler

poison is double resist

[solid frigate]

fair enough

[mighty stump]

your face is a double resist

[chrome knot]

ur mom is double resist

[tiny peak]

Hey guys I was curious, what is the strat if I aim to taunt amoongus, but psychic terrain is blocking priority moves?

[cyan smelt]

Non prankster taunt

[knotty mirage]

Maybe the best strat is just use non prankster grass type taunter like rilla

[mighty stump]

Why does it have to be a grass type taunter lol

any taunter works

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't rilla want 4 attacks

[solid frigate]

well technically 3 cuz Fake out only works in first turn

[cyan smelt]

True

[solid frigate]

but yeah you all Rilla needs is Glide, Wood Hammer, Uturn or High Horse Power

[cyan smelt]

I think I prefer high horsepower over u turn

[solid frigate]

someone would still use Protect for some sets but i highly hate that

[solid frigate]

depends on the context,but both are fine

[chrome knot]

misty terrain clef game 1 :v

[solid frigate]

sad

[real prairie]

im seeing a lot of shell smash - water spout Blastoise, why?

[solid frigate]

Basically Mini Kyogre

and i used it before

[foggy lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/live/pQ2CyBKf2S4?si=V6Jsz1k_eFSae0nN

[bold geode]

"Primarina fell asleep"

[solid frigate]

Steel sounds fun but then again

A kid name Close Combat

[spiral ridge]

DELPH FIRST STRRAMED GAME WOOO

MY GIRLLL

[solid frigate]

HOLD ON WHA

[bold geode]

DELPHOX

[smoky hawk]

Youtube autoplayed the tournament for me. I didn't know when it would be

[bold geode]

Why did PatCon go for that Sucker Punch damn

[dull ibex]

Hello

[bold geode]

Goodbye

Damn Pop Bomb is insane

[solid frigate]

Tera Fighting Delphox is funni

[bold geode]

OH A PLAY

BRUH

[solid frigate]

BRUH

WHY

[bold geode]

TERA BLAST WAS RIGHT THERE

[solid frigate]

THATS A COOL PLAY AS WELL

[spiral ridge]

Electa wasn’t dead?

[solid frigate]

clear out the Follow Me fair

[solid frigate]

during that Electa Switch in

[spiral ridge]

Ohh

[solid frigate]

thats why i still love using Indeedee (Female)

[bold geode]

Balls

[solid frigate]

Balls

WHY EXPANDING FORCE-

Unless Gambit Switched

[spiral ridge]

Idk 100% accuracy ig

[solid frigate]

ok he predicted Tauros

[spiral ridge]

Regardless that e force will kill this slot

Now he can do the same protect terrain swap lmao

And neither of these mons can punish the sneasler

[solid frigate]

Prot Delphox and Switch into Sneasler

[bold geode]

This is a great position for Ben

[solid frigate]

even then Delphox can win it

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

Damn that kowtow okay

[solid frigate]

Close Combat into Sneasler

fair

yeah Gambit can't win

[bold geode]

Delphox dub baybee

[solid frigate]

the rare sight of Delphox doing stuff in VGC

[bold geode]

Me when I lock in with Delphox

[solid frigate]

oh god Monke become furry

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

I just awakened the wolf inside me

Or one of the 2 wolves
There's two wolves inside you

[pallid hare]

For you, maybe

[bold geode]

Ngl I farted and it smells

[spiral ridge]

My dog just farted on me and it smells

[smoky hawk]

Patrick lost his first match wow. After winning that regional

[pallid hare]

those wolf senses doing you in?

[spiral ridge]

Was he dortmund winner?

[smoky hawk]

No, a couple regionals ago. I forget which one

[spiral ridge]

Gotcha

[foggy lodge]

Pattrick won NAIC

[bold geode]

Get fucked

[bold geode]

I mean he's not perfect lol

[solid frigate]

honestly i might be rude but Karma-

[real prairie]

There a regional on that im missing?

[pallid hare]

Louisville

[real prairie]

why no stream on the pokemon chanel?

oh there is, thanks for putting that in my sub box Youtube smh

[spiral ridge]

Marriage :)

[foggy lodge]

What was Patrick doing in game 2 lol

Anyways great set from both players

[tiny karma]

Move: Doodle

The user and its ally's Abilities change to match the target's Ability. Does not change Ability if the user's or its ally's is As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, Zero to Hero, or already matches the target. Fails if both the user and its ally's Ability already matches the target, or if the target's Ability is As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Commander, Disguise, Embody Aspect, Flower Gift, Forecast, Hunger Switch, Ice Face, Illusion, Imposter, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Poison Puppeteer, Power Construct, Power of Alchemy, Protosynthesis, Quark Drive, Receiver, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shell, Tera Shift, Teraform Zero, Trace, Wonder Guard, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Eject pack torkoal there’s a throwback haven’t seen that in ages

[bold geode]

Would be me AF

[spiral ridge]

Real

That caption 😭

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2221435670

The fake out turn was a bad move on my part

[bold geode]

@next stump are you in Louisville rn?

[solid frigate]

so true

[spiral ridge]

THE PARA MY GOD

[solid frigate]

F

[bold geode]

Yeah Lorenzo got this shit

[spiral ridge]

Yeah poor sleenpowder luck

Dragon move and -1 really shifted it

[limber marsh]

Is there a strictly better choice between spikes and stealth rock?

[spiral ridge]

This poor fucking guy

[bold geode]

Bruh

[real prairie]

stealth rock >

[bold geode]

Singles?

[foggy lodge]

ggs

[real prairie]

only needs 1 layer, does damage based on typing

[foggy lodge]

Corviknight walls so many things in the format

[limber marsh]

Doubles, I'm testing a tanky garchomp with rough skin and rocky helmet

[limber marsh]

Ty!

[gentle crag]

backinthefrey has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[bold geode]

Hazards aren't it then

Don't use hazards in VGC

[spiral ridge]

I feel so bad for this man

[bold geode]

Joe got fucked

[limber marsh]

Should I try maybe protect, Earthquake, rockslide, swords dance then?

[bold geode]

Yeah sounds good

[foggy lodge]

Use life orb Chomp

[real prairie]

if you are going for a doubles hazard stat go for one that doesn't waste a turn and is just a bonus, like Glimmora toxic debris

[foggy lodge]

Rocky helmet sound bad tbh

[bold geode]

Or maybe Stomping Tantrum and Rock Slide if you REALLY want Swords Dance

[foggy lodge]

And dragon stab is necessary imo

[bold geode]

Me thinks

[foggy lodge]

I think its just Stomping Dragon Claw EQ Protect

[limber marsh]

Yeah the build I've been running was clear amulet, swords dance, dragonclaw, quake and rockslide. It works real well but just wanted to experiment

[real prairie]

agreed, tantrum or horsepower don't get weakened by Gterrain

[bold geode]

They're 3 attack Protect rn
But like if a SD set then like 🤷‍♂️

Garchomp does want Protect though

[foggy lodge]

I think ClAm SD Chomp is kinda bad

[real prairie]

i was having some results with sand veil + bright powder swords dance Chomp

[limber marsh]

That was my original plan but I found clear amulet to be necessary to lean on him for damage

Intimidate is rough

[real prairie]

i think you either go amulet or SD, not both

[limber marsh]

I might try dropping SD for protect, see how that goes

[real prairie]

you have to be running Protect imo, if you drop SD its for another attacking move

[bold geode]

3 attack Protect is good

[limber marsh]

Cause currently I'm on 3 attack SD

[real prairie]

please run protect lol

[limber marsh]

I'll try it, I just hardly ever feel that garchomp is in the position where I'd rather stall then just punch something

[real prairie]

fake outs

[limber marsh]

My team has both Tailwind and trick room modes

Fake outs are a pain, but against rilaboom and incin teams I usually swap in farigiraf

[real prairie]

fast sleep powderr?

[limber marsh]

Yeahhh fast sleep powder is a problem lol

[real prairie]

protect gives you an opportunity to counter it if you are not running a sleep proof redirect

[limber marsh]

Yeah that's fair

I don't have a great counter to sleep powder set ups honestly

Maybe I should try safety goggles incin

[foggy lodge]

i hope Mimikyu gets a top 8

[limber marsh]

What tournament is it?

[bold geode]

Honestly surprised people don't use Mimi

[spiral ridge]

You do it then

And make me use it

I can supply a shiny

[bold geode]

[spiral ridge]

This yes or no?

[bold geode]

I'll think about it

[spiral ridge]

Kk

[real prairie]

one of those mons that i think maybe should have got follow me

[bold geode]

Rn I'm on Delphox

[spiral ridge]

I’m doing lunala DAs rn

[spiral ridge]

I need to do that tooooo

I love my shiny delphox

[real prairie]

im testing Doodle slacking atm

[foggy lodge]

Would be kinda busted but it would also make sense with the Mimikyu's lore

😭

[limber marsh]

I see a lot of garchomps and dragonites run scaleshot these days, is it netter than dtagonclaw?

[bold geode]

I'd go Claw on Chomp

[foggy lodge]

Its an option but Scale shot forced you to play loaded dice

[real prairie]

Loaded dice scaleshot Dnite came from singles and has worked in this reg quite well for VGC

[bold geode]

Though Dnite is debatable

[foggy lodge]

I think Scale sjot Dnite is pretty good

Breaks Sneasler's sash

[bold geode]

Yeah it wants Loaded Dice

[real prairie]

just lost to a Coaching Sneasler Loaded dice Dnite

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its a good team

[limber marsh]

Ahh gotcha

[real prairie]

Multiscale Roost Dnite was also a big singles build

keep resetting Multiscale

[bold geode]

Multiscale/Iron Head/Protect and something else with Tera Steel iirc is the set

Idt the VGC Scale Shot sets have Roost

[spiral ridge]

Vgc none that I can think

[real prairie]

nah, having threats from 2 ops makes it less viable to try and keep resetting Multiscale

[spiral ridge]

Also just

Something like leftovers grassy terrain might do better

If you really want multiscale reset spam

I kinda lean to inner focus I’m Ngl

Fake out just can make multiscale redundant if it has no healing

[real prairie]

inner focus better in VGC 100%

[spiral ridge]

Which is funny cus first reg H regional multiscale dnite won lmao

[bold geode]

Have they showed day 1 usage yet?

[spiral ridge]

Don’t think so?

[bold geode]

No

[spiral ridge]

Was it inner focus?

[bold geode]

No Dnite didn't win

[spiral ridge]

OH IT CAME SECOND YEAH

I forgot the murder mouse

[bold geode]

Yeah blame Maus Toretto

[spiral ridge]

Well it came close to winning and beat out inner focus dnite

Too bad neither form living a fuckass mouse family

Get the fuck outta here stuart little

It’s showing friend guard version maus 😭

Oh it’s intentional nvm lmao

[bold geode]

Once again
The one thing I wanna mention

Imagine how the other orphans felt in Stuart Little

[zinc totem]

I love when opponent uses life dew with gastrodon

storm drain just eats it and no heals

[limber marsh]

Anyone have generic good incinceroar evs?

[foggy lodge]

😭

Here's the test is pretty fun https://www.sporcle.com/games/OBMgamer/can-u-name-all-regional-champ-pokemon-2024

[spiral ridge]

What the fuck kinda quiz is that 😭

Did stream just die?

Uh oh

[bold geode]

Oooh interesting match

[spiral ridge]

You see a match?

Is my shit breaking

[bold geode]

Oh mine buffered
But it'll be Stefan Mott vs Wolfe

[spiral ridge]

Okay was confused

[bold geode]

Nothing rn

[spiral ridge]

I just see a pika and music for about 5-10 minites

[bold geode]

Yeah what I got too

[foggy lodge]

if wolfey is playing Yanmega istg

[spiral ridge]

The fucking music symbol that appeared

[bold geode]

Well he said he's bringing Incineroar

[spiral ridge]

Does
He really need to announce that?

[real prairie]

stream ended?

[foggy lodge]

No but idk what are they doing

Pokemon where are my Pokemon battles

[bold geode]

There we go

[spiral ridge]

Tanmega

AYYY P2 URSA

[bold geode]

Oh Jesus Christ

[spiral ridge]

KLEFKIII

[foggy lodge]

ITS YANMEGA

??

[bold geode]

Wow we really not gonna show the teams huh

[spiral ridge]

Let’s smell what the rocks cooking

He just leaving archa hello?

Oh guess it’s fine nvm

Beefiest fucking archa ever

[tiny karma]

Move: Air Slash

Has a 30% chance to make the target flinch.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

75

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Missing 95 has got to fucking hurt

[real prairie]

if its not 100% accurate its 50% accurate

[spiral ridge]

Is he just leaving archa to be last man standing?

Oh any damage would be hospitality?

Maybe that’s his thinking idk

[bold geode]

Lmao Stalwart Arch let's go

[tiny karma]

Ability: Stalwart

This Pokemon's moves cannot be redirected to a different target by any effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Oh lmao

[real prairie]

Wolfe reads @mighty stump blog

[spiral ridge]

Wokfe double herb team

Flinchhhh

Makes up for miss

Uh oh

Alright who’s last

Ooo

No protect?

Why not save that for guts damage?

[bold geode]

Misty Terrain fucking Ursa here lol

[spiral ridge]

OH YEAH MISTY

[bold geode]

Oh there we go

Misty went away now

[spiral ridge]

URSAAASAA

[foggy lodge]

LMAOO

[spiral ridge]

Close fucking game holy shit

Ggs

[foggy lodge]

Should have body press the Archa tbh

[spiral ridge]

A while ago probably

[foggy lodge]

And just hope that Ursaluna doesn't crit

[spiral ridge]

Yeah one crit it’s over

Missed air slash made it so much closer

[dull ibex]

might look into p2ursa as a core outside of p2 balance

[bold geode]

Bro saw Wolfe's team and said imma switch it up

[dull ibex]

no I played p2 balance and said I want to use this core on something different

[real prairie]

didnt waste time this time, straight for the CC

[dull ibex]

maybe a tailwind HO mode?

[bold geode]

Wolfe probably running Unburden

[real prairie]

he is

[foggy lodge]

omfg

[bold geode]

I mean I can say that just by item, they didn't show shit

[real prairie]

white herb unburden

[real prairie]

Commentary said it was unburden too

[spiral ridge]

This tea won’t die

Okay so

He’s making the special moves do less cus body press can’t do much vs incin?

[foggy lodge]

Damnnnnn

[real prairie]

this is swiss still and not KO rounds right?

Id guess Wolfe Sneasler has maybe 150 speed since it keeps getting outsped by Maus

[foggy lodge]

CLICK BODY PRESS

[dull ibex]

I found a new team 🙂

[foggy lodge]

HE LOST

[spiral ridge]

A crit

Omg klefki

[foggy lodge]

Istg

[spiral ridge]

Wow

[viral spindle]

I’m doing a psych up mono water team with dondozo and tatsugiri and I need a drizzle Pokemon which gives me Pelipper and Politoed

Should I go for coverage with Pelipper or support Politoed that also learns Psych Up

[foggy lodge]

that's a very specific team lol

[viral spindle]

Yeah

But perish song on tatsugiri while it’s in dondozo’s mouth is broken when you have psych up Pokemon

[bold geode]

Was doing things during that set, imma have to watch back

[spiral ridge]

It was something alright

[bold geode]

Dillon 3-1
Yotam 3-1
Emma 2-2

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/diosa-bocchi-gif-24958399

[bold geode]

I know I had this shit once lmao

[rustic mountain]

rain w/ p2

[bold geode]

Bro's cheeked up

[foggy lodge]

Da

Well gg

The rain match up looks tricky for Paul

[rustic mountain]

oh i didnt see the full team, ursa on it makes it make a lot more sense

cool iteration tbh

[bold geode]

Emma is out

[spiral ridge]

:((

[bold geode]

Dillon and Yotam though
Both 4-1

[chrome knot]

2-3 drop ^-^

[solid frigate]

F

[chrome knot]

can never catch a break with terrible mus

5 uphill games in a row im just tired of playing today

[bold geode]

I'm kinda tired of this Reg tbh

[bold geode]

Thx I was working on that lol

[spiral ridge]

yup remember you asked :)

[foggy lodge]

SNEASLER TOP 1??

[bold geode]

Sneasler fucking most used

[spiral ridge]

yup

[foggy lodge]

i hate this regulation omfg

[spiral ridge]

para sleep poison gambling yayyy

[molten oasis]

wow, that, sucks, so much

[solid frigate]

lol

[molten oasis]

dnite's up there too yaaaaay

[bold geode]

Also no Follow Me in top 12

[solid frigate]

yey

[spiral ridge]

rage powder

[bold geode]

Is Rage Powder Follow Me Scotty?

[spiral ridge]

still redirect here

[molten oasis]

its not follow me bruh

[bold geode]

I said Follow Me lmao

[spiral ridge]

im just sayhing theres still redirect

[bold geode]

Yeah I noticed the Rage Powder

[molten oasis]

kinda hate rngsus is king cuz rngsus hates my guts

[solid frigate]

F

[bold geode]

Imma play every now and then (debating on doing a tour tonight maybe) but more than likely just gonna play Sparking Zero
I'm just bored of this Reg rn
I actually might just be burnt out

[spiral ridge]

theres a few teams i want to try so im not burnt out yet

[solid frigate]

i'm doing fine but i kinda bored to play against teams with wacky shit

[molten oasis]

i dont like this format overall

[solid frigate]

same

[bold geode]

I kinda just grinded like a mfer
Like I don't have really anything against the format, but rn I'm just like
Eh

[molten oasis]

i like that a9 is good and pult is good but otherwise like, sneasler being no 1 sucks

[bold geode]

Like just eh

[foggy lodge]

idk i've been preparing for double restricted and reg G worked as a practice for that

[solid frigate]

wait until Maya just complain to us that we hate Reg H

[foggy lodge]

And then oops all legendaries are banned so

[molten oasis]

i play every so often but idk if im grinding this format

i proved i dont suck at least lol

[solid frigate]

same lmao,i'm still in it

[foggy lodge]

Its like they broke my decent streak that i was having at restricted formats and is like 😭😭

[bold geode]

But yeah I don't hate Reg H, I'm just like
It not being as good as it was hyped up to be in the beginning and then like
Just idk
I think it's burnout

[foggy lodge]

i think its silly so im treating it like that

[bold geode]

I just don't really have any ideas and I just like don't care too much

[solid frigate]

Reg A++ is just not what we think it is

[molten oasis]

i dont hate it necesarilly but the format feels all immediate offense

and i play set up balance, so im not having a great time

[foggy lodge]

idk personally i feel like speed control is more a privilege rn

[bold geode]

Idec about that tbh
I can do other stuff since I don't like immediately restrict myself
I just play balance usually cuz I'm more comfortable with that but I will do like other things

[foggy lodge]

And i don't like that because most of my teams played something like tailwind or electroweb and right now those tools feel kinda meh??

[solid frigate]

i feel like that balance is more harder to play in this reg

[bold geode]

I just am so indifferent and like I'm not really that mad if I miss these sets
Like I'm really not even watching stream rn tbh

[foggy lodge]

Like Tailwind Whimsi is 100% good but idk

[solid frigate]

Me and Nova are already training for our events in Reg G

[molten oasis]

i dont care about the stream

[foggy lodge]

I think you have to be really really good to play balance on this format

[solid frigate]

which i'm not lmao

[molten oasis]

like, ofc good luck to everyone who's there today

im not gonna watch, it's not that intersting of a format anymore

i want shifu back lol

[foggy lodge]

Add me please😭

[solid frigate]

idk i don't wanna care this format cuz it would just go back to Reg G again and later Double Restricteds

[foggy lodge]

i think santiago regional will be double restricted and waaa

[solid frigate]

its in the private server of mine

[foggy lodge]

Yeah dw im joking

But i'm worried that i can forget the fundies from restricted formats? Idk

[bold geode]

I'm just keeping up cuz we got peeps there but yeah

[rustic mountain]

if u watched the latest stream match i think ud see its not jus immediate offense go brrr theres def a lot of switching/repositioning most of my games recently are like 10+ turns since most things are more balance based. if u cant beat the ho stuff by now idk wat to tell u

[solid frigate]

i guess you can join as well

[molten oasis]

ok those players are 10 times better than most of us here

[solid frigate]

true

[rustic mountain]

thats why tw isnt as prevelant rn, its not great and more easily exploitable

[foggy lodge]

if you are fine with that

[rustic mountain]

if thats not ur aim idk wat to tell u, thats wat u gta strive for

close the gap

[solid frigate]

i mean i'm fine with it,you are chill

[foggy lodge]

probably

[rustic mountain]

i mean its won but i dont see it holding up

[molten oasis]

my aim is not that in this format at the very least

this format for me is fun every once in a while

[solid frigate]

i just need you as friend Maxi

[molten oasis]

ig its more due to not settling on a team

and jumping back and forth, that and fighting sneasler every game sucks

[solid frigate]

i can't tell how many sneaslers i thought andi have to hope i do not lose the speed tie

[rustic mountain]

part of becoming better is facing the b.s and dealing w/ it

ofc up to u how u approach a format but in general u cant dodge actual improvement if u want that

[solid frigate]

yeah make sense,rn i'm just trying to position and punish with Either Tera or Dragapult

[dense compass]

Hey! i am an aspiring competitive Pokemon player i would appreciate it if anybody here could help me out

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[rustic mountain]

id check this stuff out ^

[rustic mountain]

thats a good mindset but dont make it so tunnel vision, allow urself to also punish and ultilize other tools on ur team to achieve that as well. dpult cant be the only carry as strong as it is

[solid frigate]

yeah exactly,Tera is not exactly reliable+Pult dies to Gambit

[rustic mountain]

i mean tera can be good i jus try nd not use it as a crutch. u gta b particular how u utilize it, and u gta be able to look at that point in the game and weigh the costs of post tera (if they have things that can threaten that as well later on) and what advantage it can yield u in not just that moment, but for the entire remainder of the game.
giving urself good defensive pivot pieces w/ good defensive synergy is generally the best way to achieve this. one of the reasons i love incin/shroom so much and why fwg is usually apart of a decent amount of team comps

makes it so u dont necessarily feel forced to tera in certain spots and can re position ur board to get a more advantageous position

[real prairie]

focus sash unburden spotted

[molten oasis]

i wish ladder wasn't tw spam so i could get a more accurate read on the meta but whatever

[foggy lodge]

that's an unburden focus sash Sneasler

😨

THERE'S A METAGROSS

LET'S FUCKING GOO

[real prairie]

fire spin magmar

[solid frigate]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rustic mountain]

its alberto so ill give the benefit of the doubt but damn im curious to see why he opted for that

[real prairie]

i missed the end earlier, didnt wolfe take an L?

[rustic mountain]

idk jus have watched the last 2 matches

[real prairie]

whats the need for such chonky headphones whilst playing PKMN lol is it a broadcast comms thing?

[foggy lodge]

METAGROSS LEAD

[real prairie]

ooof

[solid frigate]

Metagross Hype

[real prairie]

i hate flame body

[foggy lodge]

oh he burnt

[solid frigate]

f

[foggy lodge]

[solid frigate]

Metagross our homie

[torn parrot]

I’m running super swap setup stuff
It’s been okay as I can generally stall out tailwind

But I do have an unburden Sneasler so there are times when I can keep up with the speed with prio and unburden

[solid frigate]

also me hearing AI Professor Battle Theme

But i don't see a Miraidon or Koraidon

kek

[molten oasis]

meh, i need to learn the meta more, the team i have is fine i hope but i should just start running other teams, as much as i dont like doing it

[solid frigate]

i mean i kinda stop playing Reg H in November

[molten oasis]

what?

[solid frigate]

idk like everyone said,i also grew bored

Sneasler moment

[torn parrot]

I’ll never be bored of this ladder

I can do whatever I wwwwwwasaaannnttt

[real prairie]

trying to play around these sucker punch is why i run upper hand

[solid frigate]

the reason i grew bored cuz 1.i need to other work and 2.2 Reg G events for me

[real prairie]

well we assume they are reg G, could be updated to a new reg

[solid frigate]

it is reg G

[real prairie]

in which case really wish it was still available in SD

could do with the extra build time and practice

[solid frigate]

you can still build

[real prairie]

but not practice with the build

[molten oasis]

play doubles ubers ig

[real prairie]

yeah thats what i was doing pre-restricted to practice restricted but then couldnt go to Liverpool so took a break

[mighty stump]

Blocks out sound from the venue

Its standard esport stuff

[solid frigate]

oh god alberto got lucked-

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu

[real prairie]

this whole match is "dodging Suckerpunch 101"

[real prairie]

fair

[solid frigate]

corv wins game 1

should be

[real prairie]

@mighty stump you see earlier that wolfe reads your blog 😉

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/e34dca895ee83bd0 what are my common leads with this variant

[foggy lodge]

well long af game

[dull ibex]

Having some common leads helps me alot

[torn parrot]

Dayum

[bold geode]

He don't lol

[real prairie]

its a joke because of Stalwart Arch

lol

[torn parrot]

Also by the way I think skill carries on between formats, even if your trying to get good at H you’ll still just become better at pokemon in general

It’s still the same game

I don’t know if I’m convinced you enjoy the game

[real prairie]

Pory + Ursa TR+Protect, Talon + Ghold TW+Make it Rain

[molten oasis]

im not convinced anythings fun

[bold geode]

Update: Yotam and Dillon are now both 5-1

[spiral ridge]

sps prob decided this game

[foggy lodge]

LETS GOOO

[bold geode]

One more game for both

[spiral ridge]

dire claw lmfao

[dull ibex]

alr

[torn parrot]

Everybody is just getting statused

Pretty sure corv is gonna get Uber parad

I stand corected

[real prairie]

Why would my opponents u turn go before my prankster encore?

[tiny karma]

Move: Encore

For its next 3 turns, the target is forced to repeat its last move used. If the affected move runs out of PP, the effect ends. Fails if the target is already under this effect, if it has not made a move, if the move has 0 PP, or if the move is Assist, Blazing Torque, Combat Torque, Copycat, Dynamax Cannon, Encore, Magical Torque, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nature Power, Noxious Torque, Sketch, Sleep Talk, Struggle, Transform, or Wicked Torque.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Targets

Any adjacent Pokémon

Introduced

Generation 2

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

oh ffs i figured it out, I doodled out of Prankster

[bold geode]

Yotam is fighting Wolfe

[rustic mountain]

lets go yotam

atleast they r starting to update some of the in between segments

took them long enough

[torn parrot]

What

WOLFEY IS IN THIS???

POGGERONI

PIZZA PIE

[tranquil kraken]

can i watch? :3

[torn parrot]

MAMA MIA

[torn parrot]

No sorry only cool people get to watch regionals

Sorry 😞

[tranquil kraken]

didnt realise there was regionals hehe

[rustic mountain]

yes go watch back and see him lose on stream

hes using yanmega

[foggy lodge]

Budget Vivillon

[torn parrot]

DYYYAYYUAYYM

I wanan go seeeeeee

[rustic mountain]

think it was round 3 or 4

[foggy lodge]

is that Charizard

[bold geode]

Bro is sat back lmao

Bro is in that position you sit in when you gotta lock in on Smash Bros

[foggy lodge]

that's a double stab Amoonguss

Huh

[spiral ridge]

TR vs TR?

[foggy lodge]

Semi TR vs Semi TR

OH ITS SASH AMOONGUSS

[rustic mountain]

p sure i played vs the dude on the left in a team league bo3

[spiral ridge]

sathington 😭

[rustic mountain]

nah nvm idt thats them

interesting format to run sash shroom in

[foggy lodge]

its modest Amoonguss

💀

[rustic mountain]

damn

[spiral ridge]

was that a double miss?

[rustic mountain]

double heat wave miss is game

[tiny karma]

Move: Heat Wave

Has a 10% chance to burn the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

95

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

1 in 100

oh its asleep

yeah only hope is heat wave and tork wake up and finish gambit

[rustic mountain]

oh shit

[spiral ridge]

like that

:3

lmaoo

[rustic mountain]

well that was really fortunate wake, nice

[spiral ridge]

T1?

[rustic mountain]

always 1 turn of sleep is guaranteed so it took that turn and then woke up there

if u classify that as a t1 wake then yea

[spiral ridge]

yeah

sorry im thinking shodown cus it says T0 for that

[rustic mountain]

i guess yea cuz u dont count the guaranteed turn as t1 in that sense

[spiral ridge]

yueah if it hasnt taken its guaranteed and you hover on it on showdown it says 0

[rustic mountain]

interesting is that new?

idt ive noticed that b4

[spiral ridge]

dont remember it not being there

[rustic mountain]

yea i always jus keep an internal check on that, good to know

[spiral ridge]

mhm hovering on stuff can be helpful :3

[rustic mountain]

i hover i jus havent noticed that

[spiral ridge]

maybe im tweaking then but i swear thats how it is

cus you prob play more than me so now im double guessing if i made this shit in my head

[chrome knot]

4-3 but i can clutch up for pts

[bold geode]

How tf that not kill

[bold geode]

Thought you dropped

[chrome knot]

i wanted to

[bold geode]

Ah well get it

Anyways
Tera Fire boosted Sun boosted Solar Power boosted Overheat did not kill the P2 that's wild

[spiral ridge]

2v4 to a victory prob wow

oh shit coinflip

AYYY

[torn parrot]

He looooost

Awwweeww

[torn parrot]

on showdown it says 1 if you’ve used your turn even on the first turn

Showdown is completely accurate about that

It says 0 when you havnt used your sleep turn

[spiral ridge]

yeah thats what i was saying

if your sleep turn hasnt happened it says 0

[torn parrot]

Ohhh mb my mb

My bad

[spiral ridge]

so once its happened you can wake up and you can wake up while the numbers 1

youre all good im just repeating it again with clearer explanation :)

[bold geode]

Dillon won, Yotam lost
Yotam still has win and in though

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/marc0fier0/status/1845153269166833726

fra (@marc0fier0) on X

Americans can't build nor play

Twitter · Oct 12, 2024, 5:23 PM

Lol

[bold geode]

Damn he got me

[torn parrot]

the flash show is the king of cheesy lines

the corniest lines

this must be a cw thing

[solid frigate]

PFFT THE 1812 IS BACK BABEEEE

[torn parrot]

im so thankful for furret

without it i wouldnt know that magmar has eviolite
or kingambit has black glasses

or sneasler has a focus sash

or dragpault has a choic. band

[spiral ridge]

fissure dozo

why was he staring at the camera like that that scared me 😭

[solid frigate]

Fissure Dozo wtf

[torn parrot]

i fouvght that

he missed liek 7 fissures and then i killed him

and i told him "you deserve this"

[spiral ridge]

good shit

damn straight he do

[real prairie]

this is new

[solid frigate]

i actually seen someone used it

not practical at all

[spiral ridge]

these rounds were pretty one sided feeling damn

pelipper just suffocated them

[solid frigate]

why i can see the mental Image of Pelipper just suffocates the Player with its Beak-

[spiral ridge]

😭

[bold geode]

YOTAM MADE IT BAYBEE LFG

[bold geode]

Imma use that with Archaludon

[foggy lodge]

how is Dillon?

[empty kettle]

anyone have any cute pokemon teams ?

[foggy lodge]

I think Porygon2 Ursaluna are cute

[solid frigate]

HIS BAD LUCK IS OVER LET HIM DO iT

[bold geode]

Dillon ended 6-2 as well

[foggy lodge]

Nice

[empty kettle]

ursaluna is cute ?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/ursaluna-dance-ursaluna-gif-24758216

[solid frigate]

can i say Pult is kinda cute in someway other than it YEETS CHILDREN

[empty kettle]

idk abt cute 💀

[solid frigate]

idk the only cute mon is Whimsicott lol

[empty kettle]

do u trhink i can make whisicott and alcremie work in a team together?

[foggy lodge]

No tbh

[solid frigate]

Ehhhh not really

[foggy lodge]

But Smeargle is cute also

[solid frigate]

that is a fucking demon.

[empty kettle]

LMAO

[foggy lodge]

Even if its fucking annoying

I think its design is actually cute

[solid frigate]

its a fucking demon more devious than Calyrex Shadow and Darkrai Combined

[empty kettle]

should i try building a team aroudn whimsicott then?

[solid frigate]

Whimsicott is usually a Support Tailwind Setter

usually i will not build around a Support

But Build a Team with Hisuian Typhlosion+Whimiscott is doable

[real prairie]

clefairy

[solid frigate]

but you don't wanna build around a Support

you Build around a DPS/Attacker

Thats like Basic Teambuilding 101

[real prairie]

was just naming cute mons

cheesestring is kinda cute

[solid frigate]

but yeah so far none of the cute mons are Attacker

[solid frigate]

ehhhh kinda

[real prairie]

pop bomb maus

with coaching sneasler is incredibly funny

[empty kettle]

well i dont rlly have scarlet and violet so im kinda only limited to mons up to pokemon sword/shield

[solid frigate]

oh-

[empty kettle]

yeah 💀

[solid frigate]

i mean this is majorly SV Comp chat

SWSH i don't really know

[real prairie]

i mean, the whole server is named after SV 😅

[solid frigate]

nah there are SWSH stuff

just Comp chat is SV

[molten oasis]

Tried p2 Ursa, meh

[solid frigate]

not good on TR?

[real prairie]

try #swsh_discussion

[empty kettle]

wasnt this server named dynamax before it got changed to sv?

[molten oasis]

I feel like the strategy is super linear

[solid frigate]

idk i joined during SV Era

[real prairie]

that is feasible but idk

[molten oasis]

So it’s easy to figure out what I’m doing and it gets shut down pretty easily

[solid frigate]

i think thats like Every TR Teams

[molten oasis]

Fariluna didn’t feel that way

[real prairie]

its why people running weird Tera on P2

mix it up a touch

[solid frigate]

Fari is not particularly Good due to Kingambit

if there is No Gambit then we can talk

[molten oasis]

Fari was good when gambit was good with gouging fire???

[real prairie]

the covert cloak Hatterene was interesting

[solid frigate]

Nvm

anyways back to grind Tera Raids

[real prairie]

when was worlds in Cali announced?

[bold geode]

Run FariLuna then

[solid frigate]

usually they do worlds during summer

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/9a45737ce9cf0131 what else can I add to this?

[real prairie]

yeah but when was the location announced, feel there was a big announcment for Hawaii

didnt seem that way for Cali

[solid frigate]

there is

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it was announced in honolulu

[real prairie]

oh

[solid frigate]

can't register Birmingham yet

[real prairie]

nope

do let me know if you spot it before i do

dont want to miss out again

[molten oasis]

Am I missing any mu’s on this

[solid frigate]

dude i'm already practicing rn

[real prairie]

how 🤣

[solid frigate]

Rain

[real prairie]

cant wait for round 1 of swiss... @solid frigate vs @real prairie LOL

[molten oasis]

Blood moon and amoonguss and dengo

[solid frigate]

not confident with it but sure

[real prairie]

anyone got the screenshot of day 1 useage from Louisville?

[solid frigate]

its in the chat

scroll up

[torn parrot]

i was at 17900 twice and then the same guy blocked me im so upset

😭

i wass so close

should i throw in the towel

[molten oasis]

Ok then what do I need for rain

[foggy lodge]

huh

Dragon types kinda busted

[torn parrot]

im throwing in the towel

sad..

[solid frigate]

moment

[chrome knot]

#388 for the worst day ever is kinda cute

[atomic mural]

didnt watch day 1 because I forgot but this team is fire

[solid frigate]

I think we know that Solo Archaludon still works

[molten oasis]

He’s using yanmega lmaooo

https://pokepast.es/e20eef6003333108 thoughts comments concerns?

[real prairie]

absolute clutch

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2221677104

[torn parrot]

this furret team is legit i have 70% gxe at 1750

defintely making this a rental

im hyped

(: my furret dreams are reality

the highest furret got was rank 75

[atomic mural]

nice

[torn parrot]

thank u fam

i dont think theers a point in me trying for 1800

shit is wack

you have to have 4 perfect games to get there

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/9cbf9136c88567aa also im waiting for the double restricted regulation

[real prairie]

grassy + water pledge to make a swamp is broken if you can pull it off

1/4 all opponents speed

[solid frigate]

thats probably gonna be May but idk

Mirai Ogre kek

[torn parrot]

i hate the idea of double restricted

i despise it

):<

[solid frigate]

Gen 4 with at least what i saw 3 Restricteds:

[atomic mural]

ok but miraidon on a caly ice trick room team with a clefairy with after you

[solid frigate]

i'm still thinking of Miraiogre

[atomic mural]

yoo thunder

[solid frigate]

More like i have a excuse to actually run Protect on Kyogre

[atomic mural]

lol

[molten oasis]

You seem to hate legendaries

[torn parrot]

Yes I do indeed

[molten oasis]

I am the opposite lol

[solid frigate]

i'm in between lol

[torn parrot]

Maybe if they were balanced I would find it fair

And epic

Balanced as in in comparison to each other

[solid frigate]

i mean

none of them were in mind are balanced

[molten oasis]

As a man once said, in vgc we look for broken shit not balanced lmao

[solid frigate]

true

[torn parrot]

Next gen they should rework every pokemon

Level the playing field

Pleas

[solid frigate]

i don't think they would-

if they make Legendaries Balanced then there's no need of Legendary in their title

[torn parrot]

With each other

Pokemon is too messy

Like

I apreciate the buffs and nerfs every gen at least

But gamefreak is really terrible at it

They don’t think they how to make a competitive game

I think the players literally create the game

The players make the format

Gamefreak just gives us chaos and random shit and the format is based around not losing to all the stuff that wins the game automatically

I think smogon created something relatively fair and cool in that regard

That’s the one thing I don’t like about the chaos of the official format

Your building a team and it’s like “oh don’t forget not to auto lose to this this this this and this by having extremely specific counters”

[solid frigate]

POV:Every single Multiplayer Games be like

[torn parrot]

No but ya see

They try they actually put in effort

And it pays off

Game freak is like

“Hey good luck with this random bullshit we tossed in a bucket yeah some of it wins it 2 turns some of it is just completely useless filler”

[zinc totem]

omg i lost to skill swap no guard sheer cold lapras perish trapn team. Im not even mad but wow

[torn parrot]

That’s wolfey’s team

[solid frigate]

thats wolfe's team

[torn parrot]

Lol

[zinc totem]

nice but that was not what i expected them to do

i almost beat it but they got double protect at end

[solid frigate]

its funni at least

but learning that Sheer Cold bypasses Mid Phantom Force is interesting

[zinc totem]

haha

well i think it bypasses also fly

[zinc totem]

reason why im not even mad. dude was rank 80 too

[solid frigate]

any 2 turn move that is not Beam attack

https://tenor.com/view/waddle-doo-beam-attack-failboat-kirby-gif-26923084

[zinc totem]

YeH

Also dude used no guard hypnosis on my mons first which was insane

Then hits after giving no guard to lapras his 60% hypnosis

[solid frigate]

ah yes

[zinc totem]

So rng also was making harder to beat it lol

[molten oasis]

No actually

Apex honestly isn’t terrible at it

And like, balancing a game is really hard

Especially a game with 1000+ options

[torn parrot]

i feel like

if you play against a certain strategy enough times

your brain wires a specific formula for beating it

naturally

[molten oasis]

Yes

[chrome knot]

my body so eepy

@next stump ill be around tmrw watching d2 ill come by and say hi

[next stump]

sounds good 🙂

[solid frigate]

huh no wonder my younger brother is fine with Apex

[foggy lodge]

good luck in day 2 Dillon!!

[solid frigate]

can Dillon take it home????

or Yotam

[next stump]

If I didn’t have to face paul chua round 8 I might have been 7-1 RIP

he’s so good

also thank you all 🙂

[tiny peak]

Hey guys what's a good tera type for life orb garchamp?

[solid frigate]

hopefully you can make it

[torn parrot]

well played!

nice job making it\

252+ Atk Choice Band Palafin-Hero Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Archaludon: 210-248 (106.5 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

guess you

do gotat actually make it transform first tho

and thats a bit akward

[solid frigate]

which kinda kills the momentum

Palafin itself is good

but like the Ability kinda make it you have to sacrifice your Own Momentum to do damage

[torn parrot]

that is really true

if only someone could crack that

crack the issue

and i think the answer is pivot flip turn

[atomic portal]

😎

[solid frigate]

Filp Turn+Uturn

[bold geode]

Just use Basc

[solid frigate]

literally the Better boi here

Basc Beliver here

[tiny peak]

If a pokemon is stellar type do they still have the weaknesses of their original type?

[atomic mural]

yes

[tiny peak]

Hmm ok, I'm trying to pick a tera type for sneasler I'm running unburden focus sash, with dire claw/close combat/fake out/throat chop

[atomic mural]

ive seen that set with tera dark before

[tiny peak]

Ok that makes sense, while we are talking teras what tera is best for murkrow?

Going tailwind/taunt/foul play/haze

[atomic mural]

i dont use murkrow or have seen murkrow

so I dont know atm

[tiny peak]

Ok thanks

[solid frigate]

thats what i run

[solid frigate]

Tailwind,Foul Play, Haze, Taunt

Sometimes Quash for some Bizzare reasons but thats like 1-2 Murkrows

[molten oasis]

Did some thinking,I think I’m gonna stop playing vgc, maybe forever, might just be for the format, idk yet. my mindset is kinda terrible, I stay focused for more than like 5 minutes before losing to something stupid or I miss played and then I just beat myself up and then I’m losing every game to me being dumb, so that’s not great. I’m also just not enjoying it, this format isn’t fun to me and it’s a combination of things and I think for my mental health I’m not gonna continue playing. So, I’ll be around but I’m not playing vgc.

[torn parrot]

): yeah you beat yourself up too much
but
this is every format for you i feel

you were complaining about reg G before reg H existed

it may just be that you have a hard mindset for competitive games

[molten oasis]

This game is where that really hits the hardest

And changing that mindset is really hard and idk if I’m gonna achieve that in vgc

[torn parrot]

you could try being active about how you react to things
blowing things off or laughing them off

[molten oasis]

I also play apex, so I might just pursue apex further cuz I’m good at that game and actually don’t lose my mind

[molten oasis]

Idt my brain can do that

[torn parrot]

yeah thats okay defintely play something you enjoy

if pokemon isnt working thats ok

[molten oasis]

I like vgc, I’m not gonna keep playing it for the time being

I have issues that I have to fix before getting back into vgc

And I keep coming back to it cuz pokemon is my favorite franchise

And playthroughs get old quick

End of reg g I did pretty well, so maybe I’ll play again reg g but for now idk

Single player games feel better to play in general, so, more Okami and other stuff

In short, I’m quitting, I’m better at other games and would prefer getting better at those and this game drives me nuts

[torn parrot]

i hope you find enjoyment in otehr games and kick some more ass

👍

and its okay if you ever decide you wanna play again

[molten oasis]

I didn’t learn the game in a healthy manor either so Im just, yea gotta fix stuff

It’s not like I’m gonna disappear but I’ll won’t be around as much

[torn parrot]

how did you learn the game?

[molten oasis]

Started playing anything but meta then slowly came around to using it but still liked not meta and that part pursued up until this reg

And then eventually got the the point of playing well and performing well, but I haven’t used other people’s teams, I don’t understand the teambuilding process enough, I get very lucky in too many matches, so I felt better at the game then I actually am.

I play much better than I can build which is the only reason I climbed so high with sneasler pult

I didn’t go through the usual learning steps of the game I jumped ahead and I think that’s holding me back

[torn parrot]

my friend started the same way but his stuborness eventually went away
im not sure why it happened but he eventually was just like okay with the meta pokemon yet still was able to make funny teams.
i think its cus he figured out the enjoyment he got out of the game and so the picks or strats being popular themselves didnt matter.

[torn parrot]

that's defintely understandable
teambuilding is extremely hard

plus during teh teambuilding process its hard to know whats actually going to work

so then you dont know what to look for

or feel discouraged from trying something out

[solid frigate]

Mental Health is way more beneficial to yourself so take a break is better

[torn parrot]

i think iv gotten a lot of enjoyment anmd knowledge out of playing othe rpeople's compositions

[dense latch]

maya i feel like im in a very similar spot as drago, I took a 3 year break from vgc and lost most of my knowledge and my best success in ladder and tours has been using others' teams. idk if i should take a step back and start teambuilding, sacrificing success but building a better core as a player long term

[torn parrot]

helps me learn and study how teambuilding works

lost what knowledge?

[dense latch]

like just general teambuilding and decision making

i've gotten better since i came back in july but it felt very close to a full reset

[torn parrot]

its okay, 3 years is a lot
i dont think you started from 0 not at all
but
it's defintely a whole different game every gen

tera makes teambuidling different

like dynamax made teambuilding different

i cant build a dynamax era team

mfs ran fly

id have to learn how that works from scratch

but id still have a basic idea of how the game works at least

[solid frigate]

at the end of the day,being worse is fine,just remember the basics

[dense latch]

having experienced both i think gen 9 teambuilding is so much harder than gen 8 teambuilding

[dense latch]

yeah this is what I had back in july, not a full reset but definitely a hard step to take

[torn parrot]

when a guy can rnadomly turn into a water type when your about to one hit ko him ye it can be a bit difficult

i get it

but

yeah dynamax was a simpler gimmick

all the thinking was mostly during gameplay

[dense latch]

tera is much healthier competitively

my favorite gen 8 format was the one where dmax was banned lol

[torn parrot]

i agree

i dont think doubling your health and making all of your moves into ooga booga one shot machines iss that healthy

[dense latch]

and stat boosts or terrain/weather setting

[torn parrot]

i can only cry thinking about people who had to deal with dynamax weakness policy calyrex ice

[dense latch]

max airstream and the signature gmax kanto starters move was a nightmare

man weakness policy self procs were everywhere

[torn parrot]

heres the truth

next gen we'll all have to relearn the game again when they make up a new gimmick

that changes everything

[foggy lodge]

i hope next gen doesn't include a gimmick lol

[dense latch]

same

but that's practically impossbile

[torn parrot]

nah they will

it's the selling point

not sure what they could possibly come up with though

but it will get more and more convoluted

as there are more gimmicks

[torn parrot]

basically dont beat yoruself up about it
your starting late into gen 9 right

its not your fault its just everybody else been here to see how things have developed and how people have learned to use tera

next gen youll be ready tho

(:

[dense latch]

ty that means a lot :))

[molten oasis]

Are you tilting after 2 games and can’t keep yourself in line mentally so you start beating yourself up?

I’m mentally extremely unstable, I hope you aren’t cuz this sucks lol

[dense latch]

no, I'm sorry you have to deal with that, mental health is super important and i wish you nothing but the best during your break. I should've highlighted the part where you said that you learnt the game in an unhealthy way and the difference in play and teambuilding, i related to that a lot bc i've been using sneasler pult to do well in ladder too

[molten oasis]

Ty, enjoy the game

[torn parrot]

damn tilted after 2 games?

jeez

it takes me a bit to get the tilt going
when it does it hits hard tho and i start getting depressed

but yeah mental health is always more important than ladder

[molten oasis]

Yes, 2-4 games

[torn parrot]

i always keep that in mind getting better at self control

[spiral ridge]

if its 2-4 is this a healthy game to keep p[laying?

[molten oasis]

Have you read, ANYTHING

above that

[spiral ridge]

i read here

oh wish you the best during break

gotcha sorry

[molten oasis]

ty, no that’s my bad, it shows jeez

Man and I glad I have Okami waiting for me at home

[spiral ridge]

nahh dw about it dumb statements during vulnerable or senstitive topics are so infuriating

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/okami-good-dog-tail-wag-gif-26895650

[spiral ridge]

DUDE I FUCKING LOVED OKAMI SO MUCH

I PLAYED IT FEW MONTHS AGO ITS SO GOOD AHVE OYU EVER PLAYED IT BEFORE

[molten oasis]

I’m playing through it for the first time rn

I’m in the forest where you get the vine brush technique

[spiral ridge]

only thing ill say is that isshin gets better dont hate him much as i did 😭

[molten oasis]

I don’t find him that annoying

I could be playing against sneasler

[spiral ridge]

oh i did with just the sexism and uhh commanding

actually dude youre gonna need lot more story games right?

[molten oasis]

Yeaaaaaa, he’s a bit messed up in the head

Yea, I do

If you’re offering options could you dm those to me?

[spiral ridge]

brother

i got a mothafucking wheel

[molten oasis]

Sick

The break will be for a couple months minimum so, I got time lmao

[rustic mountain]

i told u he lost lmao

[torn parrot]

https://youtu.be/ScD5mkkGdVk?si=lzbC0rdqasE4tBAu

i vibed with this because its everything i learned while trying to use furret

[daring jungle]

ok, i created a steel type comp team to have fun with on showdown but want to make some changes. i know of some but need a spot of help:
https://pokepast.es/fe19a3c3c79ebf68

this is for gen 9 national dex btw

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/420bf6bc53c86b75 anyone know common leads for this

[torn parrot]

hey has like

anybody noticed that theres a lot of pokemon that start with "ar"

what the hell

[dull ibex]

yeah there is a few

[cyan smelt]

They should make a pirate pokemon

[torn parrot]

you could say a few...

[dense latch]

wow

[torn parrot]

lot of Ars huh

[dense latch]

i accidentally translated showdown wtf is this

[daring jungle]

yes

[dull ibex]

maybe ill abandon the team

[atomic mural]

Araquanid spotted

[torn parrot]

whats the team

king

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/420bf6bc53c86b75

[torn parrot]

i imagine the tailwind mode doesnt help alot for that team

but

i saw some fuck shit recently uwu

where they did this

but the talonflame had DEFOG in trick room

to get rid of rillaboom terrain

was so annoying

and surpisingly affective...

it was bronzong over porygon

kinda surpised people dont use bronzong ngl

its kinda awesome

probably the most hialrious message

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

its solid i think stuff like p2 are either jus better off rip getting the sp atk boost most times w/ download and having better overall defensive typing or like more proactive setters like armarouge/hatterene etc. bronzong was really good in the past wen stuff like xerneas was everywhere. id say in general its not as effective or as much of an enabler for tr as even like an indeedee to justify it in most cases

giraffe to an extent too but idt the giraffe is all that great this format either

[torn parrot]

thats true