competitive_discussion

[real prairie]

(thinking cooperatively)

[cyan smelt]

how about propeller tail barraskewda

[real prairie]

both could be viable in a rain team

[cyan smelt]

non swift swim skewda doesn't outspeed pult though

[real prairie]

tera steller scarf Skewda maybe

has quite a lot of coverage moves

[cyan smelt]

outspeeds sneasler at least

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 847: Barraskewda

Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Propeller Tail (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

61/123/60/60/50/136

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

psychic fangs for sneasler and annihilape

[tiny karma]

Barraskewda's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Jet, Assurance, Bite, Bounce, Brick Break, Close Combat, Crunch, Dive, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Facade, Flip Turn, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Ice Fang, Liquidation, Night Slash, Peck, Poison Jab, Psychic Fangs, Scale Shot, Slash, Take Down, Thrash, Throat Chop, Waterfall

Special Moves

Blizzard, Chilling Water, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Round, Scald, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Acupressure, Agility, Attract, Endure, Focus Energy, Laser Focus, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Barraskewda.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

flip turn for pivotting out if its scarfed

throat chop for usual psyspam TR setters

[cyan smelt]

poison jab for fairies

only problem is rilla really

and other weather teams i guess

also i think i'd prefer crunch over throat chop

kinda keen to test barraskewda now lol

[real prairie]

i mean, it wouldn't need the rain

[real prairie]

throat chop into hyper voices >>>

[cyan smelt]

true

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 847: Barraskewda

Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Propeller Tail (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

61/123/60/60/50/136

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

Ability: Propeller Tail

This Pokemon's moves cannot be redirected to a different target by any effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

also Tera could work with it against Rilla or just have a Priority blocker

[real prairie]

what you are bringing it for youd probably not bring it into a Rilla battle

equally nothing says you can't have your own redirection

put it next to magmar to put pressure on Rilla

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen go bed

[dull ibex]

Hello everyone

[real prairie]

heya

[cyan smelt]

hiya

[dull ibex]

was gud

[real prairie]

nm, wbu?

[dull ibex]

im chilling

[cyan smelt]

just had like every turn be parad

reg h sure is fun /s

[dull ibex]

I do think its fun tbch

[cyan smelt]

i hate bullshit rng

[solid frigate]

Drago:First time?

[chrome knot]

IM SO READY FOR REG G 2

[solid frigate]

yooooooo

[dull ibex]

I still have mine from the event

[balmy glen]

@chrome knot I’m still up

[chrome knot]

get yo ass to bed

[mighty stump]

I’ve said this since the beginning

Its on my blog

[real prairie]

must have missed the blog post, sowy Tofu

Twitter feed is a mess at the best of times

[dull ibex]

vc?

[solid frigate]

still at school,probably will be back home shortly

[real prairie]

252+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Barraskewda in Grassy Terrain: 128-152 (93.4 - 110.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (128, 128, 132, 132, 134, 134, 138, 138, 140, 140, 144, 144, 146, 146, 150, 152)

assuming the Rilla isn't 252+ it could actually tank a Grassy Glide

156x1.5 speed is 234

should still outspeed pretty much everything

[solid frigate]

Usually Rilla does not run 252+ so its alright ig

unless Band sets

which runs Jolly

[cyan smelt]

these teams i'm playing are horrible

[solid frigate]

Reg H in a Nutshell

[real prairie]

cant account for every possible set, esspecially in Reg H

just the most likely

[solid frigate]

I dont think i run over 252+s but eh

[cyan smelt]

i'm gettiong all the shitty rng

[mighty stump]

Miracle Seed sets too

[real prairie]

yeah Miracle seed is guaranteed OHKO unfortunately

[craggy dagger]

wha

they’re out already-?

[chrome knot]

mhm

maybe not yet in fake timezone land but

[real prairie]

worth taking away some attack investment to put into HP to better odds of survival?

[craggy dagger]

what?

[mighty stump]

Nope

[real prairie]

fair

[bold geode]

Hello Tofu

[bold geode]

AND HAI NOVA

[craggy dagger]

hellouuuu

[bold geode]

[mighty stump]

Bye

[dull ibex]

toxic tofu

[real prairie]

Meat based Tofu

[dull ibex]

there is nothing based about toxic tofu

[bold geode]

Tofu isn't meat based

[real prairie]

if it was, that would be pretty toxic ey...

[bold geode]

Tofu I got Infernape post out
Now I can focus on tearing apart Sneasler Pult and TOTALLY not watch Parkour Civilization

[dull ibex]

what

[mighty stump]

Misty Terran GWeezing

yw

[bold geode]

Lmao

[bold geode]

Be funnier

[mighty stump]

Oh you think I'm joking

[bold geode]

Oh no towards them

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/trying-try-im-trying-basketball-diaries-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-5139195

[bold geode]

I see the vision
It's just a lil blurry

[mighty stump]

in like

[bold geode]

Oh wait nvm

[mighty stump]

an hour

of laddering

[bold geode]

Misty Surge or

[mighty stump]

Misty Surge

[craggy dagger]

misty surge i would think

[real prairie]

so misty surge then

[craggy dagger]

but why…?

[dull ibex]

Man I wish I knew how to pilot this better 🤔

[bold geode]

But then you lose N Gas

[mighty stump]

Why would you need NGas

NGas isn't always beneficial

[bold geode]

You mean anything

[dull ibex]

what?

[mighty stump]

I get to actually use an item on Incineroar

[craggy dagger]

which should be fine?
Ngas can also shut down your teams abilities too

[bold geode]

Ah

My question is then how tf does Geezing then contribute

[mighty stump]

I'm gonna let u figure that one out

[dull ibex]

wisp

[real prairie]

brainwave moment... dual wingbeat Galewings Talonflame murders Sneasler

[bold geode]

I've talked to a few people actually trying Misty Surge and they say that shit be hot ass

[mighty stump]

Misty Terrain + Wisp =

[dull ibex]

itll be fine.

[bold geode]

I mean it does get Haze

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger novaaaa novaaaaaa

[bold geode]

Unless you're just going Specs on a mfer

[dull ibex]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2215822581 uh oh

[bold geode]

You didn't bring Rilla to Psyspam you moron

[dull ibex]

I hate this game

do not call me a moron plz

[real prairie]

been there, feel pain

[bold geode]

How you not bring Rilla to Psyspam

[mighty stump]

Monke

[dull ibex]

I get it, stop.

[mighty stump]

Remember the incident

Do you really want a repeat

[chrome knot]

what on earth was that lead

[craggy dagger]

what

[chrome knot]

squishes you glomp

[dull ibex]

mine? yeah Im not sure why I didnt expect fairy tera, also I didnt bring rilla into psyspam, I think I tunneled on rilla being weak to fire for some reason

[bold geode]

You have tera for that

[dull ibex]

ye

I need to take notes.

[craggy dagger]

…?

[bold geode]

Also Sneasler just never should be brought into Psyspam well for obvious reasons

[chrome knot]

most common indeedee tera

[dull ibex]

yeah rather silly on my part

[bold geode]

Even if Indeedee teras it's fine honestly
Then everything else is weak to Prim lmao

[chrome knot]

prim sneas lead is insane pressure

[bold geode]

Prim Pult better lead

[dull ibex]

agreed!

[chrome knot]

boned if tera fairy

[bold geode]

Unless they Tera, Moonblast and U Turn should OHKO and if they Tera then good cuz then you can spam Hyper Voice lmao

[chrome knot]

why couldnt u spam hyper voice before that lmao

[dull ibex]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regh-2215827351 not sure what I lead into this tbh

maybe prim rilla?

[bold geode]

Well it's even more spammable now cuz Arma and Tork and Ursa (if they have it) are still weak to it

[chrome knot]

can u send replays please

and not just rooms lmfao

[dull ibex]

well I wanted advice on the lead lmao

[chrome knot]

didnt realize it was a live game

[dull ibex]

ye if it was over I would send replays don't worry

[chrome knot]

rilla kinda eats this team have sneasler in back, sd gambut goes hard here too

[bold geode]

Rilla Prim maybe fine?

[dull ibex]

oh so my gut was right on the 4

get ready for me to be awful at playing monke lmao

LMAO

[bold geode]

I missed the swap and was about to roast your ass lmao

[dull ibex]

you still can I didnt tera infront of arch

[mighty stump]

I don't think you're really in a position to roast Red so often

[chrome knot]

tofu helo

[bold geode]

Look guys we don't see the vision

[dull ibex]

wtf is twin beam

[bold geode]

Oh breaks sash lmao

[chrome knot]

sash breaker

[real prairie]

you didn't on the first one, opened it looking at a lonely Torkoal wonder wtf

[dull ibex]

I have literally never seen this move ever

[bold geode]

Some peeps used it for Mienshao last Reg iirc?

[mighty stump]

Farigiraf signature

[bold geode]

It's it's signature move iirc

[dull ibex]

dont ask me why I thought I would live a hurricane at 60 percent

I played this really badly

[bold geode]

Oof

[mighty stump]

Schooling P2 Ursa with GWeezing lets go

[bold geode]

That Twin Beam was kinda unfortunate tbh

[real prairie]

send us the link before your next game, we will join it as spectators and throw off your opponent by overwhelming the chat 🤣

[bold geode]

Actually kinda a decent adaptation

[chrome knot]

ew

[real prairie]

lol

[bold geode]

Also hey lemme cope with the fact I ain't done the same dumb shit sometimes

[dull ibex]

I think its a little overblown considering im trying to get better personally

[bold geode]

Red has the vision though
Remember that shit

[dull ibex]

not bringing rilla into psyspam was pretty dumb admittedly

[bold geode]

Yeah my bad I was just like "why this dude Fake Out in front of a Farig"

[dull ibex]

oh yeah no he swapped

[bold geode]

Yeah I checked I was like no way he did that

[dull ibex]

if i tera'd prim there I would have been in a great position

[real prairie]

We are only seeing Origins Epi 2 Red atm dw, he is still cooking

[dull ibex]

its not origins im vgc vet lmao

[bold geode]

Just looking into the eyes of the giraffe like "check this shit out"

Origins?

[chrome knot]

when did you become so seriousssss

[dull ibex]

when do I lean pult sneasler btw

[real prairie]

when its not psyspam

[chrome knot]

when theres no drawbacks to clicking outrage

i won on t1 by clicking fake out into talon jus to break gale wings tw & my outrage flung into a glimmora LOL

[patent marsh]

gud anime

[craggy dagger]

lol?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215836981

[real prairie]

assume you are running Bruxfish lol

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[real prairie]

some people dont know what to do when they get walled haha, had someone trying to tera ghost dudunspace with Maus beat up, i redirected their beat up 2 turns in a row and they just left

[craggy dagger]

beat up rattled?

[real prairie]

i guess thats what they were going for, maybe weakness policy for extra measure

using stored power

[craggy dagger]

it gets stored power-??

[chrome knot]

yes

[cyan smelt]

ok i like my new team much better

[mighty stump]

-calc 184*118

[gentle crag]

Result: 21712.000000

[mighty stump]

-calc 173*126

[gentle crag]

Result: 21798.000000

[mighty stump]

-calc 184*137

[gentle crag]

Result: 25208.000000

[mighty stump]

-calc 173*137

[gentle crag]

Result: 23701.000000

[chrome knot]

hi tofu

[mighty stump]

Hi

I'm juust checking the the % defenses

[real prairie]

non pocket monsters Q, pink or white pixel 9?

[mighty stump]

What sort of pink is it first tho

Cause both being light colours will lead to dirt being more obvious

[mighty stump]

I wish that was a bit more pastel

What's the white like

[real prairie]

you and me both

kinda dull

[mighty stump]

White is basic you go pink

The white's dullness makes it look cheap

[real prairie]

figured the white might work better with semi translucent cases

[mighty stump]

Then again the pink not committing to pastel makes it more tacky

[chrome knot]

tofuuu

look at my doggy i got today

[real prairie]

also should have committed to pastel

[mighty stump]

omg nice

i want one

[real prairie]

this was a joke btw 🙂

[chrome knot]

i got it in 3 attempts and scared the shit out of my actual dog when i got it cx

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

whyre u biting meeee

[mighty stump]

Well if you ever get an extra one

[balmy glen]

Bro thinks he’s my Zama

[chrome knot]

thas a girl

[balmy glen]

Yes

Bro 🙂

[chrome knot]

h e

[patent marsh]

I got this and put a black case on it and nobody ever noticed the center other hinge was pink until I recently took off the case

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215895642

[chrome knot]

what the fuck was that

13 missed wins ass game

[real prairie]

why hide the pwetty?

[patent marsh]

because samsung for some reason thinks making the fold thinner instead of thick enough to hold the spen like their flagship is a good idea

[real prairie]

oops

gimmick over balanace, Samsung wouldn't be very good at VGC

[patent marsh]

I mean every major smartphone manufacturer is trying to make em thinner

especially for years when they got nothing

they just make it thinner and put a bigger battery

like this year's iphones

the zfold6 is now as thin as a normal phone in a case when folded though but camera bump still exist

they could just make the fold flat with no camera bump and enough space for the s pen

and it's literally perfect device

cause you can't really put it on the table and use the s pen since it's not flush due to the camera bump

[real prairie]

central camera bumps that mean it balances looking up at you on the worktop >

[patent marsh]

it's just the 1 corner y

central wouldn't work since hinge

[real prairie]

like a pocket wobbly table

[patent marsh]

they just need to make it flat

like red magic made a phone that's completely flat

[real prairie]

or just taper the whole phone back if you can't make it flat

[patent marsh]

flat, it's possible but every company doesn't wanna do it

[real prairie]

silly

[patent marsh]

the crazy part

this phone is like top 3 for best performing android phone

[solid frigate]

whats with talking of Phone brands

[patent marsh]

and the camera is on par

[patent marsh]

guy was choosing between a pink or white phone then I mentioned my pink zfold

[solid frigate]

oh ok

[cyan smelt]

I like my pixel 8

[solid frigate]

i am forced to use an Iphone 11

[patent marsh]

I can't go back to normal phone

foldable been too useful in allowing me to skip work

[real prairie]

was torn between the 8a and the 9 until i found out they were basically the same size

wanted a smaller phone

[cyan smelt]

Good to thing I set up my pixel 8 because my old phone can't hold a charge anymore

[real prairie]

my current phone:

[cyan smelt]

I don't need the latest phone and this was on special so I'm happy enough with it

[torn parrot]

Sanji is disgusting

Irredeemable

[real prairie]

Sanji is falling further and further down in appreciation the more he keeps getting written into these situations

Oda needs to just do a full arc without sanji being a creep to let things cool off tbh

[torn parrot]

There’s being a pervert and then there’s saying you wanna clean women’s bathroom 🤮

[real prairie]

i dont think much cleaning will get done with his nose bleeding all over the place

[mighty stump]

One Mid!!!

Mid Piece!!!

[torn parrot]

One peak is peak

[real prairie]

Spoken like a squidward

"The One Piece" is going to annihilate any competition.

[molten oasis]

i thought you was sleepin

[molten oasis]

he's uh, yea i expect that behavior from him

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[rustic mountain]

peak piece

[solid frigate]

wha

[torn parrot]

One piece is going to be the first shonen to ever exist with a good ending

[atomic mural]

[spiral ridge]

Yknow hate how much I immediately struggled to think of one
Trigun?

FMA was good too wasn’t it

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215950519
ehe~

[molten oasis]

dont give us hope

[spiral ridge]

Lmao coach spam

I see you’re also enjoying sneasler pult

[craggy dagger]

i fucking threw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215953445-ckw7hww33q152f5vm1yhv5r6pjafdeupw

[spiral ridge]

Sucker punch :(

[zinc totem]

i gotta admit tho: 116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 148 HP / 84 Def Sylveon in Grassy Terrain: 160-190 (84.6 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO this is pretty funny

252+ SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 148 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Ground Sylveon: 67-81 (35.4 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 148 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Ground Sylveon: 102-121 (53.9 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[real prairie]

gasps in FMAb

[molten oasis]

Man I remembered why I don’t play the meta much

I hate mirrors so much

https://pokepast.es/4367ad1f4a57b314 imma try smth

[real prairie]

coil hypnosis Milotic is a new one

[bold geode]

No it ain't

[torn parrot]

Looks pretty radical

[torn parrot]

Ye If I play meta I like having at least one pick for me

[zinc totem]

top 1000 babyy

now i can go back to top 20000

[zinc totem]

okay people dont wanna win against me

[molten oasis]

I fought the sneasler pult mirror today and just kinda hated it lol

[zinc totem]

last picture. im done for climbing tonight

[torn parrot]

Oh sounds like a tough one to beat

[molten oasis]

It is

I almost won but I missplayed g2

So I’m gonna mess with chomp a9

[bold geode]

I love it
Hehe funny Magmar shuts it down
Also like Rilla and Gambit cannot touch Gambit lmao

Technically neither can Pult

Freedom is when you realize how free SD setup can get in the mirror once Sneasler gone

[molten oasis]

Ig

I still hate fighting mirrors

Especially when it’s practically 1 to 1

[torn parrot]

I only hate mirrors when it’s my own team

Otherwise it’s whatever, just a skill/practice with the team test I guess

[rustic mountain]

ive had gambit mirrors my +2 kotow dark tera was hurting them

generally rilla isnt doing shit tho yea

if u force the tera wood hammer hurts

u turn does a decent chunk

[rustic mountain]

mirrors are annoying

usually tho if its common enough u jus be tech'd out to give urself an advantage even if just slightly

otherwise its just player diff

[bold geode]

Has to boost to do so
Plus if Magmar gets a Wisp onto their Gambit, boom so much advantage baybee

[molten oasis]

Yea I got player diff’d multiple times

[rustic mountain]

yea for sure the burn can be crippling. ive also eaten the burn and stil won

[molten oasis]

Since I have the stuff Cybertron ran so I’m now on other stuff cuz I hate mirrors

[rustic mountain]

it all jus depends

[foggy lodge]

I just lost to scarf Meowscarada with Whimsicott

i don't in which moment you think you need so much speed but ok

lol

[chrome knot]

its 288..?

[molten oasis]

what?

[foggy lodge]

Scarf is 288

with tailwind is 576 lol

[bold geode]

I guess cuz I always played basic balance I never cared about mirrors
I've just always focused on playing better

That or having adjustments that better suit me in the mirror

[foggy lodge]

well i reached master

i want to see if i can hit top 2000 before tomorrow

[torn parrot]

What’s the smallest size in game pokemon

What if I hunted for a teeny joltik

I wonder how small it would be

[cyan smelt]

tynamo

[rustic mountain]

daily reminder joltik has a higher base atk stat then onix

[foggy lodge]

[rustic mountain]

i need to hit cart ladder

need to make a new team

might jus say fuck it we ball and use wat i already have

[foggy lodge]

i don't have a team i think

i've been just using random rentals

i got this score with specs tera fairy sylveon + banded Harc and Whimsicott

[rustic mountain]

ahh yea thats good. i usually like recreating teams even if rentals exist. i generally have the mons and most are shiny so i figure why not use em

[foggy lodge]

is pretty funny

[rustic mountain]

nice sylveon feels solid. i used it a bit early format but idt the team was the right fit for it

[foggy lodge]

yeah i like doing that too

[foggy lodge]

i think it has potential

i think people aren't giving it the enough damage it needs

[rustic mountain]

i think its in a fine place atm, more niche sp atker that can really catch teams off. fairy is a lot better now w/ all the dragons running around too but i doubt it gets much higher useage

[foggy lodge]

sets with calm mind could work too, considering that after a calm mind is the same as a choice specs

[rustic mountain]

yea idk if its the set up mon u want

ppl thought calm mind prim was gna b good and then it jus died. not everything needs to be a set up mon

wat value u get off the set up matters. general stat sticks like gambit and ape who w/ rage fist can make hitting it super specific w/ how u need to deal w/ it. even arch setting up w/ electro shot or volc w/ quiver. they generally all jus give more immediate value or better payoff as set up mons for different reasons

others i missed like dengo but yea

[foggy lodge]

hmmmm yeah, maybe it just needs the turn 1 pressure

we'll have to see but i hope people explore it more i think its genuinely good

this made top cut btw https://pokepast.es/c5f6217f2063e109

[molten oasis]

Sorry what

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 95: Onix

Types

Rock/Ground

Abilities

Rock Head, Sturdy, Weak Armor (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

35/45/160/30/45/70

Total

385

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 595: Joltik

Types

Bug/Electric

Abilities

Compound Eyes, Unnerve, Swarm (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/47/50/57/50/65

Total

319

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

yup

[molten oasis]

By fucking 2 points

[craggy dagger]

isn’t the fat cat purgly faster than latios

[molten oasis]

It is

[craggy dagger]

by how much-

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 432: Purugly

Type

Normal

Abilities

Thick Fat, Own Tempo, Defiant (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

71/82/64/64/59/112

Total

452

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 381: Latios

Types

Dragon/Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/90/80/130/110/110

Total

600

Other Formes

Latios-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

2 points

[molten oasis]

2 point lmfao

Apparently a piece of cloth gets 135 speed while the Lati’s, who flies at Mach speeds (I think) is slower

[craggy dagger]

latios can match the speed of a jet yea

[molten oasis]

The robot penguin is faster than jets lol

[craggy dagger]

i like to think of speed as reaction time though-

[craggy dagger]

gliding on ice is prolly faster than flying

less friction n air resistance

[molten oasis]

Ig

[craggy dagger]

cetoddle is 2 points higher in hp than the gen 2 box legends

[molten oasis]

thats insane lmao

[craggy dagger]

106 vs 108

[foggy lodge]

well ideas on how to continue with this team? https://pokepast.es/85a677544818e226

i probably want a Dozo/set up Match up with haze but i don't know what to add

[rustic mountain]

yes

[rustic mountain]

yea thats my take anyway ive been wrong before

[torn parrot]

Iv never had the pleasure

The honor

The privilege

Of using purugly before

[cyan smelt]

i wanna use delcatty

[torn parrot]

Wonder skin is funny

[cyan smelt]

normalize is too

[torn parrot]

it has fake out

[cyan smelt]

normal type t-wave, can paralyse ground types

[torn parrot]

Can it paralyze ghost types

[cyan smelt]

nope

[torn parrot]

Wild

Delcatty has thunder clap/sucker punch for normal types

Sucker punch but normal

[cyan smelt]

i think you're right that wonder skin is better

[torn parrot]

Yeah…I mean only cus

I mean it can always skill swap normalize

Like the boomers used to do

[cyan smelt]

now that's funny

are there any other funny gen 4 pokemon or gen 3

[cyan smelt]

i'm tempted to use gliscor

[tiny karma]

Ability: Wonder Skin

Non-damaging moves that check accuracy have their accuracy changed to 50% when used against this Pokemon. This effect comes before other effects that modify accuracy.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

gliscor gets hhp, throat chop and psychic fangs

actually i'm thinking hhp, throat chop and gunk shot

[craggy dagger]

hhp?

[cyan smelt]

high horsepower

[zinc totem]

has drifblim picked up in usage 😮

[real prairie]

yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjONxrodIPs&t=185s

[mighty stump]

ur a third rate trainer with a fourth rate team!!!

[balmy glen]

I am? Damn

[mighty stump]

!!!!

[real prairie]

my guy, what did i do to you 😿

[mighty stump]

breathe

[real prairie]

that me or you? lol

@mighty stump bro, you okay bud?

[mighty stump]

I’m good lol

Also I can’t attend the one Regional in my COUNTRY

I CANT TAKE LEAVE THAT DAY

[mighty stump]

I’m memeing

[real prairie]

thats what sick days are for 😉

[real prairie]

ah okay lol

[mighty stump]

Needs a medical certificate lol

[real prairie]

for a flu?

[mighty stump]

Yea?

Singapore doesn’t mess around

[real prairie]

clearly

[mighty stump]

Someone got hanged the other day for 36 grams of heroin so

[real prairie]

i try asking my GP for a medical cerficate for a flu they'd slap me and tell me to stop wasting their time

[mighty stump]

UK?

[real prairie]

yeah

[mighty stump]

Glad I aint there no more

[real prairie]

i mean, ill be seen for something serious. Work dont bother with sick notes unless its really necissary, like when i took 8 weeks off due to mental health

[mighty stump]

Paid leave?

[real prairie]

6 months paid sick leave over a 4 year period

[cyan smelt]

I want to go to the perth regional but I have no idea about what to use

[real prairie]

obviously not intended to be taken all at one time 🤣

[mighty stump]

What do you do?

Seems like u got somtin long term locked down

[real prairie]

Bid coordinator for an environemtal consultancy

[mighty stump]

Ill pretend I understood that sentence

[real prairie]

🤣 you asked lol

but in regards to long term, its classed as a "Permanent" job,and if they want to get rid of me they have to pay me 1 months notice.

[mighty stump]

Sounds

Financey

[real prairie]

my role or the "Permanent" nature of my job?

[mighty stump]

The role

[real prairie]

more adminy

[mighty stump]

Sounds hard

[real prairie]

meh, its tedious more than it is difficult

[mighty stump]

Would you say you enjoy it

[real prairie]

absolutely fucking not

🤣

[mighty stump]

Lmao

Every vet I know tells prospectives to not be one

I get it now

[real prairie]

if i didnt have 3 kids and a household to pay for id have quit and tried my hand at something i think id enjoy a long time ago

[mighty stump]

Being a parent also sounds hard

Respectable

I don’t have it in me

I know what it’s like to be under a not so whole household so

Plus I got my own inner childhood to restore first harhar

[real prairie]

I mean.... 🤣

[mighty stump]

My inner child is an expensive bitch

[real prairie]

yeah probably something i should have done tbh but live and learn

[mighty stump]

live and learn

My partner has loving parents and she wants a child and I’m like

[real prairie]

LOL thats always a funny dynamic when people who had ""Normal"" upbringings get with someone who didn't

[real prairie]

see both me and my Mrs are fully broken beings trying to do the "normal upbringing" thing for our kids

not the easiest when you don't have the experience to lean on 🤣

[mighty stump]

Haha

Technically you jnow what not to do

[real prairie]

which usually leads us not doing very much 🤣

[mighty stump]

I also know I’m selfish. I like my disposable income at the moment. I’m 25 and I have my first job and as much as I think about my long term relationship I don’t know if I want to give up my self-freedom

and have my life be dedicTed to another living being

[cyan smelt]

kids are expensive

[mighty stump]

Kids are expensive

[real prairie]

smart man, do not give up your disposable income 🤣

[mighty stump]

Like

[real prairie]

do

[mighty stump]

I dropped 800 dollars on clothes because I can and I wanted to (i saved up for it but still)

[real prairie]

not

do

it

[mighty stump]

Im saving up and not having to touch my monies

[mighty stump]

Oh dear

At the moment I’m aso just winging my budgeting and I’m still saving while I get all the “wants” satisfied

Like I can go buy that 500 dollar watch or get a tattoo if i wanna or eat take out every day

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGgsn3bsVD0&ab_channel=CutawayGuyX

[mighty stump]

fFew years down the line I donno if kids are ever worth giving silly life freedom up for

[cyan smelt]

is it a deal breaker for your partner?

[real prairie]

the kids are 100% worth it, but my advise would be to try own your own home and have a nice nest egg

in other words, dont do it whilst on a low income salary and renting 🤣

[mighty stump]

Dunno yet, she hasn’t said its a deal breaker

Like

[real prairie]

im not on a low income salary anymore thankfully but still playing catchup from when i was

[mighty stump]

She just wants to see where it goes

[real prairie]

pretty normal at your age tbh

[mighty stump]

Otherwise me and my partner are incredibly boring in a good way

I guarded my peace a little too hard

I have

technically 0 problems

[real prairie]

her bio clock still has plenty of time to make that decision lol

[mighty stump]

True, she does have some conditions, nothing serious but it might impact her ability to have kids

Obvious we both have a long way to go

Shes not sure what she wants out of life and I’m still tryna build up my own world on my own two feet

[real prairie]

as long as you aim to be the very best like no one ever was

[mighty stump]

Lol

Seems like the world didn’t end when I couldn’t attend a regional

I’m less upset about it now. Still pretty bummed

But priorities in life really pushes things into perspective

Plus seeing all the “pros”

I got plenty of time to play Pokemon

[cyan smelt]

strong pokemon, weak pokemon, that is only the selfish perception of people

[real prairie]

come to London or Birmingham, ill put you up for it

[real prairie]

this is what the guy that won worlds with Pachirisu should have said in his post interview

[balmy glen]

rea

[real prairie]

But anyway, pokemon... Malamar... most likely to get hit by SpAtk moves with its natural typing?

[mighty stump]

Wat

[cyan smelt]

nope, just u-turn

[real prairie]

in the meta, what are Malamar biggest threats move wise, to know where to invest defensively

[real prairie]

so Def investment then

[cyan smelt]

you're gonna need to tera because it's 4x weak

[mighty stump]

I mean

Defensive investment still has to be impactful

Like if you don’t make a significant change to your matchup

Not really much point

Cause remember that defenses with no response isnt a wall its a punching bag

[real prairie]

whats my biggest threat atm though that i should be looking to try and tank? id guess its a banded Dragapult Uturn

[cyan smelt]

rilla u-turn too

[real prairie]

ofc

[cyan smelt]

prim moonblast

[real prairie]

oh yeah fairy still SE

thought it was neutral for a minute

fairy relationship with dark always messes me up with it having no relationship with Psychic

[cyan smelt]

also maus pop bomb

[real prairie]

yeah i mean... thats a issue any mon could have 🤣 not exclusive to Malamar

[cyan smelt]

shroom pollen puff

[real prairie]

just for that precaution, ill run rocky helmet Malamar lol

[cyan smelt]

also anything with d-gleam

[real prairie]

what is this normal gem - Thief Ambipom i keep seeing

like wtf

[cyan smelt]

technician fake out

[real prairie]

ouch!

[cyan smelt]

also thief is boosted by technician

wait, would triple axel be boosted by technician too?

[next stump]

should be because population bomb is iirc

oh wait, i forget triple axel increases bp per hit

[cyan smelt]

hmm triple axel ambipom

[next stump]

idk the math behind it

[cyan smelt]

i read it's 30, then 50, then 90

[real prairie]

so yes, yes, no

[cyan smelt]

*30, 60, 90

there's gotta be a way to make ambipom work

[real prairie]

well it cooked me a little while ago, so there is

there is a set going around atm, no idea where it came from

[cyan smelt]

what teammates did it have

[real prairie]

it didn't lead with it, came out later. cant remember what else it had other than a ghouldengo

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

Yeah you go 2 or 3 move Ambipom and go Fake Oout Last Resort

[solid frigate]

Tera Rock Archaludon.

I'm done with Reg H

[solid frigate]

probably

[bold geode]

Weegeecee?

[zinc totem]

is bo3 perfect? im curious cuz i met dude who doesnt like the idea that bo3 has flaws

[chrome knot]

?

[zinc totem]

had an agrument with person who say bo3 is perfect and it cannot be improved

[chrome knot]

i mean its

pretty solid what is wrong with it…?

[zinc totem]

i mean it is solid yes but is it perfect? i dont think bo3 is perfect but it is good

[chrome knot]

what can you change abt the structure of a bo3

like ?

[zinc totem]

i've not played enough bo3 to analyse it

i play it mostly to test teams and thats it

[chrome knot]

nice. so im thinkin baseless opinions for 300

[zinc totem]

i mean if its baseless opinion think that everything has its flaws and nothing is perfect sure

[chrome knot]

you’ve yet to tell me a flaw of a best of 3

that in its simplest form determines a match outcome with a fair sample size

[zinc totem]

i mean not knowing flaws doesnt mean flaws does not exist. if bo3 was perfect, then there wouldnt be anything improve on in anything of pokemon. tho then again if nintendo is being lazy with their games, it kinda makes it sometimes think if they have anything to add

[spiral ridge]

There can be stuff to improve on in Pokémon
It’s just the thing to improve isn’t the BO3 format 😭

[chrome knot]

i don’t understand

sorry that was a big nothing burger of a sentence

[mighty stump]

what was wobuffets pre evo

[zinc totem]

wynaut

[mighty stump]

wynaut take deez nuts in yo mouth

[chrome knot]

sheesh

[zinc totem]

okay i walked into that

[solid frigate]

lol

[chrome knot]

tofu pms pls

[mighty stump]

anw what makes bo3 flawed

that it isnt bo5

gottem

[solid frigate]

If its Bo5 its gonna be painfully long

[chrome knot]

they work ur brain muscles

[zinc totem]

i just noticed about my team that got me in top 500

my last mon can be anything

banded dragapult, any other physical sweeper or even support

[dull ibex]

toxic tofu

[bold geode]

What mean

[mighty stump]

The joke is bo3 isnt long enough

when in actuality its fine

[bold geode]

I'd say it's average :3

[zinc totem]

atleast it doesnt take 30+ turns

[plain drum]

Me reading Black Ops

[chrome knot]

the definition of perfect

[foggy lodge]

thoughts? https://pokepast.es/e812b6940f848c74

[chrome knot]

tera normal p2

[tiny karma]

[Latest Gen] Whimsicott

Misty Terrain:

• As Whimsicott from a TM, HM or TR
• As Cottonee from a TM, HM or TR

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

@foggy lodge consider priority terrain

bc clef so slow that the damage might already be dealt before u get to terrain

[foggy lodge]

Uhhh true, great tip

I also have to decide which tera for Porygon2

tera fighting could work but i don't think its really that necessary with Tauros and Dnite low kick so i'm between Tera ghost or tera ground to hit Gholdengo

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/c5fc543333de34df

[dapper crag]

can sm explain to me comp sv

ive always wanted to get into it but like yt is very confusing

[craggy dagger]

doubles battles, you can bring 4/6 pokemon-
all set to level 50

most teams are usually composed of supportive pokemon and offensive pokemon to take out other pokemon-
uhhh-
support’s job is pretty simple. redirect attacks, heal your ally, put other pokemon under status conditions ie burn, sleep, para.
though the support world is a lot more diverse, that’s what they do in a nutshell

offensive pokemon have 2 variants. ones that just hit hard right off the bat and setup attackers. setup usually use calm mind, nasty plot, bulk up, swords dance (any move that will boost their stats) and then use that to become an unstoppable force

[solid frigate]

[dapper crag]

how would you reccomend I get started?

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[craggy dagger]

yeah that

[dapper crag]

damn lol

[rustic mountain]

vgc is .... a lot

its gna be overwhelming for a bit

[craggy dagger]

i’d watch some youtube videos and do some quick reading
though youtube videos help a lot

[craggy dagger]

it is but it isn’t lol

if you understand the basics of just battling in general then you should be able to pick up on vgc basics quickly

thennnn
you dive into all the niches and how to use specific teams and that’s where people get overwhelmed

[dapper crag]

oh ok

oh

[craggy dagger]

the battle part is pretty simple minus the human unpredictable factor

[dapper crag]

how would i teambuild

[solid frigate]

do not teambuild without understanding the Meta+How VGC function

[molten oasis]

Wouldn’t suggest building teams yet

[craggy dagger]

uhhhhhhh
you should prolly start with the basics of how things work in vgc and try out some rentals to get the hang of it before you teambuild

[molten oasis]

Use rentals until you understand how things mesh and work together

[craggy dagger]

i can speak from experience lol it’s not fun

[dapper crag]

how do i get rentals

[solid frigate]

a lot of people here struggled cuz they teambuild before knowing the meta

[rustic mountain]

u mean most ppl here

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

Victory Road

[dapper crag]

...

[solid frigate]

mostly just randos but you get what i mean

[dapper crag]

wym victory road

like the in game one?

[solid frigate]

https://victoryroadvgc.com

[dapper crag]

ohhhhhh

a website lol

[rustic mountain]

i think everything surrounding the basics of the game is what makes it complicated tho and does feel overwhelming at first to try and integrate and understand everything past the surface lvl. atleast from my experience i had no idea wat ivs/evs were and like all the other shit haha i thought something like protect was useless cuz i was only ever use to single battles. i think the fundamental understanding of even the basics for more casual players transitioning is pretty tough most times

[molten oasis]

It takes a while to get basics down

[dapper crag]

what do you mean by casual

[rustic mountain]

not competitive

[solid frigate]

i would say even faster learning rate need 1-2 months at best i think

[dapper crag]

2 months?!

[craggy dagger]

thank god for tera raiding lol
that’s where i learned my EVs n IVs

[dapper crag]

bro i just bought my 4 dollar one month online membership ☠️

[solid frigate]

thats the time that took me to learn VGC

Maybe its different from others idk

[molten oasis]

I learned evs from Wolfe lol

[solid frigate]

wait a sec

[molten oasis]

And some people here

[solid frigate]

how old is 2011 mostly in

[dapper crag]

i mean i get evs and ivs from like me building sm other mons for raids

[craggy dagger]

??

[dapper crag]

wym

[rustic mountain]

i started in swsh where the raids were so easy u didnt even need to concern urself w/ that haha its good sv has made it at strategic where u need to know wat ur doing to have a good success rate similarly to comp

[solid frigate]

discord TOS

ya know

[dapper crag]

im 13

[craggy dagger]

[dapper crag]

minimum age requirement chill

[solid frigate]

i think we had a similar case so yea

[craggy dagger]

if it wasn’t for tera raiding i would be so behind rn lol

[molten oasis]

Tbf

[craggy dagger]

but then again i did play a bit of swsh vgc

[dapper crag]

showdown helps right

should i use showdown battles or actual battles first

[rustic mountain]

sd is good for practice and testing teams out b4 building em in game

[dapper crag]

cus ik they pretty much the same thing right

[craggy dagger]

i played vgc without the knowledge of EVs n IVs

[dapper crag]

just like one is the real deal

[solid frigate]

SV is kinda the point where TPCI kinda introduce Official Pokemon Competitive towards a more younger audience in DLC2

but nothing is wrong with starting early

[dull ibex]

I hate ally switch

[spiral ridge]

Same but still suck and don’t know how to do shit and keep making weird spreads

[craggy dagger]

in my defense i was using rentals so i didn’t think about it

[solid frigate]

tell me about it

[rustic mountain]

i mean ioa in swsh was comp geared as well, i think they jus started to have more inclusion for the comp scene as its been steadily growing since swsh

[molten oasis]

Ev spreads are less important then knowing how to get into good board positions and general gameplay

[spiral ridge]

If you gotta just 252/252 that shit

[craggy dagger]

true

[dapper crag]

...

[solid frigate]

depends what is your weakness in terms of board state

[rustic mountain]

its a huge way for ppl to stay engaged with the game and bring more ppl into playing

[dapper crag]

thats a lot of articles

[craggy dagger]

but it’s also nice to know what you’ll take via spreads

[solid frigate]

it is

[dapper crag]

i just clicked on the introduction of vgc guide

[craggy dagger]

just go watch a youtube video

[solid frigate]

what can we say? VGC is Hard

[molten oasis]

You can make more informed decisions if you know what your ev spreads do

[dull ibex]

watching the video won't make it less complicated btw

[craggy dagger]

youtube videos are a lot better

[dapper crag]

i have i dont get it

[dull ibex]

vgc and ou are insanely complicated

[dapper crag]

and like a ton of them are from years ago

[solid frigate]

and whenever i clicked on comp Pokemon videos its mostly OU unless it highlights on VGC

[spiral ridge]

Thank fuck I watched a tournament and used a rental from it before I started playing

[dull ibex]

if you are learning fundamentally the swsh videos will transfer over

[spiral ridge]

Actually no first team was from something didn’t watch

[dull ibex]

vgc guide is also from swsh

[spiral ridge]

And the monkes monstrosities

[craggy dagger]

https://youtube.com/@primordialespyvgc?si=5Nxf94E2B6eyAUi8
uhhh
he’s a new player that’s willing to help along the way so if that helps-

[dapper crag]

yeah i watched that guy earlier

[solid frigate]

which is mostly the same

but it still works

[dapper crag]

he made no sense

[rustic mountain]

u can watch the vids and read the articles and they are helpful but most important is actually playing

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

[dapper crag]

i do like that hes a follower of Jesus tho

[dull ibex]

when did you get into comp and which format?

[spiral ridge]

Something’s to get why they say stuff just gotta experience it

[molten oasis]

cant learn if you dont play

[dapper crag]

ive never really gotten into comp thats why im asking about it

[solid frigate]

oh god i don't know if you can survive Reg G-

[dull ibex]

are you looking into singles or doubles?

[dapper crag]

whats the difference

[dull ibex]

doubles and singles are nearly different games

[dapper crag]

besides there being either 1 or 2 mons

[dapper crag]

o

[dull ibex]

thats a giant difference

[rustic mountain]

it changes everything

lmfao

[dull ibex]

for example in singles hazards are insane

doubles they are nearly useless

[dapper crag]

i mean like in the gym battle against the ghost lady it didnt seem too different

[spiral ridge]

Supreme overlord

[dull ibex]

pve is a bad example

[solid frigate]

its only Glimmora who is useful on hazards

[dull ibex]

you could a pikachu to solo pve

[solid frigate]

Supreme Overlord is a fucking scam

[dapper crag]

whats pve

[spiral ridge]

In singles it’s good no?

[rustic mountain]

can i beat pokemon emerald w/ jus mudkip?!

[molten oasis]

lmaoo

[dapper crag]

ive swear ive heard it before

[dapper crag]

yes very much so

[spiral ridge]

Fact checked by 5 year olds

[dull ibex]

pve is player vs enviroment its the cpu driven story stuff

comp is pvp which player vs player

[solid frigate]

YEAH,but VGC its a fucking scam and my friends said this Ability is good and don't care about Defiant

[rustic mountain]

i wasnt actually asking

[spiral ridge]

Yes I know I said this as an example of how shit changes from singles to vgc

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/0d19042a47211dff just gonna put this here

[dull ibex]

please do not say stuff like this lmao

[craggy dagger]

uhhh-
might i remind you of toxic debris glimmora

[solid frigate]

[dull ibex]

I stand by what i said

[pallid hare]

hence, nearly

[spiral ridge]

Fuck them they’re annoying

[dull ibex]

also hazards isnt really why you use glimm iirc

its a nice benefit

[craggy dagger]

not me running stealth rock

[craggy dagger]

well ya ofc

[spiral ridge]

GIRL

Meteor beam and earth power are good on it

[solid frigate]

Amogus:

[rustic mountain]

glimmora not being led by geeta to set up toxic spikes and gambit not being last w/ supreme overlord gf did not give a shit about making that fight difficult

[spiral ridge]

Sludge bomb too I think(?)

[dull ibex]

anyways yeah to the new guy, competitive is insanely complicated and don't let that scare you off, its been some of the most fun ive had in a game is playing vgc

[bold geode]

What

[spiral ridge]

I had this same thought about glummora didn’t think of gambit before lmao

[craggy dagger]

stealth rock spikes whirlwind ting
toxic debris glim
ceaseless edge spikes

[rustic mountain]

vgc is very fun

[spiral ridge]

Teaching me the game with your damn rayquaza

[dull ibex]

bro thats a singles strat

[dapper crag]

bro i dont get anything ya'll are saying

[dull ibex]

promo is running ou in vgc 😭

[rustic mountain]

oh yea im not the first ppl have been pointing the gambit part out too, her team made no sense the way it was positioned

[dull ibex]

yeah we are talking amongst eachother

[craggy dagger]

i know lol
but it’s funny seeing vgc players getting scared after seeing 3 layers of ceaseless setup along with 2 toxic spikes lol

[solid frigate]

VGC i argue is most fun in comp Pokemon

cuz once you able to understand the basics you can does stuff

[spiral ridge]

Yeah I know I just hadn’t heard anyone mention gambit before and didn’t notice lmao

[rustic mountain]

fair

[bold geode]

Hey be a good little guinea pig and click Swords Dance now

[spiral ridge]

I STILL HATE E SPEED FROM THIS

[molten oasis]

yippee g1 im losing to a blaziken

[bold geode]

LMAO

[spiral ridge]

IT SUCKS SO MUCH WHY WAS MY RESTRICTED E SOEED SPAM MONKEY

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/farigiraf-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-giraffe-girafarig-gif-26879243

[craggy dagger]

LMAO NO

[spiral ridge]

ITS SO DOG DHIT DAMAGE DUDE

FUCK E SPEED

[craggy dagger]

okay scotty tbf i’m not any better

[solid frigate]

i lost to Tera Rock Archaludon

[bold geode]

Was more Dragon Ascent but yeah lol

[pallid hare]

you got rocked

[bold geode]

Rayquaza was just very middling

[spiral ridge]

You kept telling me to use e speed

[craggy dagger]

that pult gambit gallade monstrosity

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215479115-21mt74lmcrecz904egnvfag7rux5rj2pw
i gift yall this replay of me schmoving

[solid frigate]

good one

[dull ibex]

so alot of the difference between have one mon or two, is the game speeds alot in tempo with two on the field, so slower singles strats outright dont work in doubles, and in singles because you only have one pokemon, stuff like trick room and tailwind is so much less viable, I reccomend starting with vgc (doubles) because it will provide you with the faster support here.

[spiral ridge]

HEY IT WAS GOOD
though ive been doing vivi chomp lately

[craggy dagger]

WHA

[pallid hare]

thank you, I enjoy bad puns

[gentle crag]

burnttoaster42 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[spiral ridge]

I told you this didn’t I?

[solid frigate]

Pult Gambit makes sense but What is Gallade doing here

[bold geode]

Nah bruh priority blocking isn't real, click Fake Out into the fuckin giraffe

[craggy dagger]

i’m still tryna float on floatzel
but it’s a sinking ship

[spiral ridge]

I got close to 1500 with it but no dice

[rustic mountain]

bruh gallade and psyspam fell the fuck off

[spiral ridge]

[bold geode]

Psyspam mid

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

Gallade is just so fragile

[bold geode]

Wait lemme fix that

[craggy dagger]

beat up justified AV gallade

[bold geode]

Hard TR Psyspam mid

[spiral ridge]

And too much shit hits it like a fucking truck

[solid frigate]

@dull ibex Weegeecee?

[spiral ridge]

Fast psyspam delphox

[solid frigate]

i wanna cry

[dull ibex]

eh sure ill send you a link to where i vc now

[craggy dagger]

the monstrosities i’ve made

[spiral ridge]

I wanna try this still

[solid frigate]

okok

[bold geode]

Fast Psyspam Delphox is valid actually

[solid frigate]

i think its alright

[bold geode]

Though note that Male Indeedee is faster than Rillaboom so

[spiral ridge]

I love delphox :)
hug a fenniken plush sometimes

[rustic mountain]

i think most ppl playing it are mid weve seen it taken pretty far i jus dont think ppl get good enough w/ it. also rilla and incin make its life pretty miserable but its not a death sentence for the archetype

[bold geode]

Rillaboom can do that MU like Miraidon where you can actually lead Rilla

[molten oasis]

so cool man just screwed over by the random av gambit

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/braixen-pokémon-braixen-pokémon-fox-fire-gif-10964736496409252239

[rustic mountain]

that 1 guy alex i think has done really well w/ psyspam quite a few times in sv

[spiral ridge]

:)

[bold geode]

That plus people tech tf outta it

[rustic mountain]

yea tru

[bold geode]

:3

[spiral ridge]

Got a Greninja and fenniken plush got all the XY starters that I care about

[craggy dagger]

i need to make a proper team sigh,,,

[solid frigate]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo CHESPIN LINE

[spiral ridge]

That pult sneasler team?

[craggy dagger]

but floatzel is funny

[bold geode]

Wha no never

[spiral ridge]

I don’t care for it lmao

[bold geode]

#NotMyNova

[spiral ridge]

#NotMyNova

[craggy dagger]

that’s not a proper team lmao-

https://pokepast.es/84ab159965a366c0

[rustic mountain]

i like seeing dozo tatsu out of the meta (dont lose ur dozo answer(s) otherwise its jus gna come back)

[molten oasis]

speed control is once again an issue :/

[spiral ridge]

It looks pretty damn good

[craggy dagger]

bruxish

Ass defensive stats

[bold geode]

You realize you can just seed Unburden right

[spiral ridge]

Ignoring bruxish it looks pretty damn good

[craggy dagger]

used to tank stuff

[craggy dagger]

i like scarf

[rustic mountain]

looks like poison touch turned out better

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh Magmar cracked

[craggy dagger]

plus unburden disappears after a switch

[pallid hare]

bruxish is there to make the opponent think twice

[spiral ridge]

Electivire better

[molten oasis]

relying on follow me sucks dude

[solid frigate]

the thing is

You need Rillaboom-

[craggy dagger]

so if i want unburden then i need to stay in all the time

[bold geode]

Yeah
I mean for Coaching Sneasler + Pult, Unburden probably would be better but yeah Sash Poison Touch cracked

[spiral ridge]

The speed boost leaves? Even though no item?

[molten oasis]

especially cuz i dont bring it every game

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 779: Bruxish

Types

Water/Psychic

Abilities

Dazzling, Strong Jaw, Wonder Skin (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/105/70/70/70/92

Total

475

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[spiral ridge]

Fucking why lmao

[rustic mountain]

dont feel like u gta stay in, sometimes giving up the boosts and keeping ur mon is worth it

[craggy dagger]

wonder skin,,,

[spiral ridge]

Dog duo type shit

[bold geode]

What MU even like troubles ya

[dull ibex]

ScARf

[tiny karma]

Ability: Wonder Skin

Non-damaging moves that check accuracy have their accuracy changed to 50% when used against this Pokemon. This effect comes before other effects that modify accuracy.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

[tiny karma]

Ability: Unburden

If this Pokemon loses its held item for any reason, its Speed is doubled as long as it remains active, has this Ability, and is not holding an item.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

Why don't you scarf down on Deez nuts

[molten oasis]

im currentlty getting smoked by some dude's gothitelle team

[spiral ridge]

WHAT THE FUCK

[dull ibex]

This why nobody likes you /j

[rustic mountain]

i jus mean in general u were on that wave and i was saying unburden was the call and it turns out it wasnt lmao

[solid frigate]

ok Scarf kinda works cuz if Knocked off Scarf you still get speed boost

[spiral ridge]

They’re literally just dodge build from payday

[molten oasis]

i hate this

[spiral ridge]

Coin flip to keep going

[bold geode]

totally not joking

[craggy dagger]

wonder skin bright powder

[spiral ridge]

GOD I JEED TO PLAY PAYDAY 2 AGAIN PLEASE

[dull ibex]

Coaching sneasler is something I've been strongly considering

[spiral ridge]

Wasn’t similar done with garchomp or something

[bold geode]

Yeah no just having the extra roll is nice especially considering I've had opposing Sneasler players legitimately stall out with Poison lmao

[solid frigate]

i used that with Scarf

[spiral ridge]

Way back

[molten oasis]

i feel weak asf to opposing magmar

[spiral ridge]

Electivire cus fuck you prim :)

[molten oasis]

tr mu sucks

[bold geode]

How does TR MU suck

[molten oasis]

you should look at the paste

[bold geode]

Where paste

[rustic mountain]

yea i think i jus didnt consider ppl opting for more rng heavy turns (specifically more proc on the poison) but it makes sense

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/0d19042a47211dff

is every kingambit fucking av now

[rustic mountain]

tr mu prolly rilla/gambit/prim and a 4th depending on the team

[solid frigate]

ehhhh depends on team comp?

[spiral ridge]

Been common for a while no?

Not like every one is but not shocking either

[rustic mountain]

not sure why in the mirror ur losing out to opposing magmar if thats wat they have too, should jus be follow me spam nd u have to take more favorable trades

[foggy lodge]

so i made some changes https://pokepast.es/8d72a437870edba9

[molten oasis]

i didn't bring prima

[foggy lodge]

ill probably make Tauros 252 252 lol

[molten oasis]

bloodmoon prevented gambit from setting up

it was a weird team i played poorly into it

[rustic mountain]

yea i think it happens sometimes, if u can have takeaways like maybe bring prim next time and what not thats the silver lining

losses happen, its what u learn from it

[molten oasis]

yea

[bold geode]

Small optimization, take 8 Spdef outta Prim and put into HP, optimal for Sitrus recovery

[rustic mountain]

monke w/ the ev know how would u look at that

[bold geode]

It's my spread lmao

[craggy dagger]

i need to find a therapist

https://pokepast.es/bd3a8f68c4cbeb6e

[solid frigate]

oh god

oh lord in chirst

[rustic mountain]

i always forget that shit like oh make sure rillas hp is divisible by yadda yadda for optimal grassy terrain recovery i jus know make sure the evs arent divisible by 8 or ur losing out on stats

[bold geode]

The EVs he has is a spread I had for Lorb but when I went to Sitrus I made that change for optimization

[craggy dagger]

i’m gonna tank my 1300 but oh wel

[molten oasis]

now im losing to eq spam

[gusty flint]

I’m new here and also new at the competitive Pokémon thing.May I know what’s the best clefairy build.In y’all’s opinion

[bold geode]

I'm trying to work on optimization
I feel like play is in a decent place rn, so I'm more on teambuilding, though rn it's like optimizing stuff
I actually still have to ask like what the marks are for stuff like that though cuz I don't remember them all immediately

[molten oasis]

this guy just doesn't miss wtf

who hits every sleep powder

[spiral ridge]

I

[rustic mountain]

thats good

[spiral ridge]

Yeah you may need to

[rustic mountain]

prolly the one that won recently

[solid frigate]

Life Dew,After You Protect and Follow Me

Max HP,Max Def,4 SpD EVs

oh wait nvm then

[molten oasis]

ugh okay i need speed control again, this SUCKS

[foggy lodge]

clefable is better than Clefairy rn

[molten oasis]

1 thing i'll give sneasler pult is i wasn't forced to have tw

[gusty flint]

oh?I saw a video and it said that clefairy with eviolite is better

[foggy lodge]

it usually is better but there are many set up mons and Dondozo in this new format so Clefable's unaware is more valuable

[rustic mountain]

oh clefairy nvm i was thinking clefable. clefairy kinda eh rn

[gusty flint]

Ohh okok