#competitive_discussion
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i think water types aren't the call right now
like they are fine but they are not super necessary on a team
I think fighting is literally the most in demand type of reg H
top cut cup in US ^-^
cuz of that bridge
And gambit
Go crazy? Nah but it has a place
On balance they are wanted
Necessary probably not but very much wanted
yeah this is just worse then prim LMAO
thats not good enough tbh
what is good enough?
yeah i guess if you want to win world championships then yeah, you might not look at samurott as the best option
depends on what your goal is
well looking at the meta is only natural this is a competitive chat tbf
yeah but not everyone at the competitive chat is aiming for worlds. could be something like top 500 on showdown ladder
I hope that doesnt come out wrong
I don't think samurott is good enough for that
I think its fine on the team its on because it feels a very very specific role
its not going to be good on just any team
its one of those mons that aren't unusable but really need to be needed on the team
I know hisui samurott could defintely reach like top 500 maybe even top 100 on the ladder
I think a lot of mons can do that but hisui has the X factor of actually being able to hit things hard
it can be carried
thats about as much as credit as ill give it
its fine, but not the most viable thing in the world
lots of things can hit hard, while also having other attributes
many of those pokemon have extra utility while also hitting harder
sharpness is nice, but if you want a sharpness mon you can use gallade
hits harder, way bulkier on the special side, has wide guard and feint
The entire mon isn’t just sharpness
It offers different things than gallade the only things they have in common are that their ability boosts damage
It can have utility like taunt if it wants to it has prio if you want that, you could even use it on pledge if you wanted to
The dark type is very good imo
pledge is a special move and doesn't cut, so its always going to be doing less damage than aqua cutter
if you want a dark-type attacker, use kingambit
if you want a dark-type ultility mon, use the cat
also samurott's utility is pretty poor anyways, pretty much the only utility moves it has are taunt and encore
if you want that combo just use whimsicott
not saying you shouldn't try to make it work, if you are skilled enough you could probably make it to top 100
but in doing so you have to accept the fact that using h-samurott will be worse off than using something else
Hisuian sammurott is not the strongest or a better option overall in as vaccum, but it CAN do things better than other pokemon, those things are just going to be more niche or specific.
Just saying that it’s pointless to use every dark type other than meowscarada and kingambit seems really narrow in my opinion. It’s just like why doesn’t everybody just use one single team.
It is narrow
It’s not bad a thing to be creative and explore options, if people thought “why use this when I can use (insert top usage pokemon)”
Then you wouldn’t have a fucked up top cut specs weezing toesdschrool team at a regional
That wasn’t what I was trying to say, though I guess looking back that’s probably what it sounded like
I see my bad for misunderstanding
@torn parrot gib me more luckkkkk
i lost in t8 bc low eq roll ;c so only +25cp today for t8 in cup
I give you allll of Drago’s luck
I DONT WANT THAT
too much luck. they'll accidentally win the lottery
(they win a free ticket from the scratch card)
Hisuian Samurott can do things better than other Pokemon, I won’t deny that. It can hit quite hard, and basically hard counters gholdengo, kingambit, and basculegion. However, it also has enough weaknesses that make it a liability to bring in most situations. For one, thanks to Incineroar and Paldean Tauros you’re basically forced to run Clear Amulet. Normally this wouldn’t be a bad thing since Gallade, Garchomp, and other physical attackers do the same thing. However, it does mean you lose out on offensive power you would get from an item, which is something you do kind of need when you’re operating off of a 108 base attack stat. Archaludon, Rillaboom, Amoonguss, Primarina, and the plethora of Fighting-types that are beginning to rise in the meta also give it major issues. This is why unless you have a team specifically engineered to bring out the best in Hisuian Samurott specifically, it will underperform. It’s still possible to do well with it, just like with pretty much every other Pokemon, but needs its teammates to do a lot more heavy lifting to cover for its faults. Personally, I just can’t see it “going crazy” like you said.
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Alright, going to bed.
I like to exaggerate when I say things like “going crazy”, but I don’t disagree with you. The thing I’m trying to say that I didn’t really communicate well is that of the niche pokémon, Hisuian Sammurott is going to be much easier to find a team it excells on because it’s lucky enough to have a strong ability and actual positive matchups matchups into the strong stuff. Which is something you can’t say for a ton of other picks, so that’s why I beleive in it being able to succeed. But I am aware that a lot of mons just can’t keep up and become a liability anywhere else except for their one or two desired teams.
And some mons are just irredeemable straight up.
But either way I like to see what mons can do, I like to see what they can bring to the table
Giving you mine, get fucked nerd
FINALLY
FREE FROM BAD RNG
YEAH ABSOLUTELY NOT
Uh
UH
I CAST CROWBAR smacks kneecaps
That’s fair. I get annoyed when casual players going into competitive intentionally go off-meta because “people always use the same teams” and “you should be more creative”. I can see that you’re not that though, and you’re picking Samurott because you see actual potential in it, rather than just wanting to be different. I respect that.
He’s operating on a different playing field
K now I’m actually going to sleep this time
Dragon/Ice
Thermal Exchange, Ice Body (Hidden)
115/145/92/75/86/87
600
Ain't no fucking way lmao
so to specify im going to replace to the first statement
yeah it hard counters those mon and thats why its on the tournament teams its on
I just mean its not going to be something you slap on for a generic reason
its not good enough to just carry the water or dark type role for instance
but also
samurott is just sharpness, it runs three sharpness moves with coverage and a pivot move
if it was just torrent it wouldn't even fill the niche it does now because its damage potential would plummet
I think people can use whatever mon they want, but when they ask for advice they need to brace themself to be told its bad and should run something that suits the role better (not aimed at anyone here)
Yeah I didn’t mean to sound like that sorry lol 🤝
I definitely get how that can be annoying
I’m using Furret right now and I actually wouldn’t recommend it to my worst enemies lmao
It was a fun challenge to try to find it’s non existent niche tho
I think if people show me a team without asking for any feedback I won't care but if you want feedback i will tell you a mon sucks
ya know?
See here's my thing
If you wanna use a niche, sure
But you gotta understand
A. There's better stuff
B. Why are you using this niche for in regards to your team/the meta
what does furret do on your team?
Frisk and follow me for magician delphox XD, it lines up type wise for blocking shadow balls and I made the furret faster for super fangs. The rest of the team is male indeedee with pledge
There was literally no other excuse I could find to use furret over maushold or indeedee. I accepted that furret will never be good in tournaments but it has one singles reason for being used, and it’s for frisk on ladder
But it got to 1620 so I’m satisfied with it and it’s pretty fun
Delphox has been working for people this reg oddly
yeah its a fast psyspammer
did i just saw a fucking essay about Hamurott
Yes
take mine :3
mmmmmm
i got two legendaries in my roguelike yesterday my lucks good rn
oahhhh
Usually I don’t get any
If a special psychic type exists, it’s a psyspammer 😔
Farigiraf
Okay you got me lol
Who did you get ?
Roguelike. Its items
Lake Trio
literally its not a Psyspammer cuz they ALL FUCKING LEVITATES
I’m sure they would if they could
Here’s my question
Why were they the second batch of pokemon to receive expanding force and nobody else
idk why they have expanding force when they fucking Levitate-
It doesn’t make any sense other then gamefreak employees are dummy stupid
yep-
also umm adding Latios and Latias as well
cuz they at least are levitate mons that don't have E-force as well
Also hisuian braviary is flying type and has E force
i thought levitating & flying types weren’t affected by incoming terrain effects & not outgoing
oh ig hisui braviary teras for it
and Munkidori who does not have E-force further makes it worthless
H braviary is forced to be a tera hog
Munkidori has both fake out and parting shot and is still so horrible
yeah we have a solid chunk of mons that are Special attacker psychic type that is not a psyspammer
genuinely ive only used Munkidori to teach my Incis fake out and p shot
the stats are horrible for those move
poor munkidori

i remember briefly trying it and being like damn this is certified ass cheeks
Okidogi looked so strong when i saw its design
it has an Incineroar aura i don't know if im the only one that sees it
AND IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES
they aint called the "lousy" three for nothing
tofuuuuu
i feel that
it did turn out to be the best of the 3

Morning Tofu
garbo hidden ability + offensive basestat spread but has all the good support moves 😭
The other 2 suck lol
yea i genuinely jus thought it had potential but i could not find a place for it always felt too clunky. its typing also sucks. poison/psychic jus isnt it
Fair lol
out of the 3 think only one I actually tried with was fezandipiti
yea jus munki for me
never felt the others were worth it even w/ some decent bo1 teams coming out for both
dogi wasnt terrible
i agree tho munki was very meh
never tried dipiti, wasnt it just like icy wind stuff
it had a few results yea
dazzling/icy wind poison ability stuff yea

oh yeah the toxic chain, gross haha
Toxic stall
Poison/Fairy
Toxic Chain, Technician (Hidden)
88/91/82/70/125/99
555
Poison/Psychic
Toxic Chain, Frisk (Hidden)
88/75/66/130/90/106
555
yeah guard dog is the best ability of the three
def a different 6 then wat uve been using haha some crossover tho but not all at once
Not actually calling it but I do legitimately keep using things that end up being good
And winning/top cutting tournaments
It was a cool team
Imma look at that
yep
Annihilape makes sense
maus and ape jus better w.o each other
call it a breakup
Looks fun I’ll try it out
Specs Hydrei
Specs is probably the best kind of hydrei rn
tofu was telling you and monke all this time lol
heat wave snarl
makes sense dont really need ep when you got garchomp
Mhmm
Did Goggles Ape before it was cool
I did hydrei dengo before it was cool
Gm Tofu
To be fair you were pretty close to his team
pretty cool
I was close yea
Except u h8 Annihilape so you’ll never be him
XD
ur hate cost u glory
I hate mausape, I’ve tried annihilape
I played scarf ape for a little bit
I’ll try it out okay
tofuuuuuuu
bulk up ape held its own without maus wouldnt hurt to try
just now noticing misty terrain was on clef too
Anti psyspam/sleep probably
This is inspired
Probably the best part of the whole team
ye?
very nice adaptation
vivi got 25cp today :3
o nice nice
hey congrats
i still hvnt made a new team
i got cheated in r3 & t8 but we ball
Just gonna be writing up the spider + teambuild guide
Oh wow that’s really useful
Ima keep that in mind
yea he said it was huge for nullifying shroom and ursa
wait thats big brain i didn't think about that
also said clefable was a last minute addition that helped patch kingambit
Wait Ursa can’t burn on it right
It prevents the burn
yea it wont proc
Awesome, I wanna try that
Def going in the builder lol
yea teams will be posted 2mw on vr
yoink
yeah super inspired and opens up the item slot rather than being forced to run Gogs
Plus
Reduces Dragon type damage to Grounded units
Didn’t even consider the Ursa thing
We stan good teambuilding
Think that's something
Remember that Gastrodon set I was using?
I heard about that, nice
Got 3rd in a LatAm regional today lol
Wanna use it with Sneasler Pult maybe
Only difference is they were using Sitrus, but they had Lefties Volc so I MIGHT be able to slap on Lefties
But yeah I also wanna try out the Magmar
hello, I'm new to competitive in Pokémon and this team will put me together for the moment, could you tell me what my team is missing
amoosguss, incieroar, baxcalibur, gargana, meowcarada, mimikyu
Gargana?
Ohh nacl
Uhm
Are you trying to get good and achieve highly or just do your own thing and explore?
I'm just learning, I want to see how far it has come ...
Okay
Well great place to start is probably see what others are using
Good place for that actually came today. Dortmund regional with top mons at the tournament
Watching is a great way to learn
Here one moment love
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Top comment has time stamps for games and top usage mons
YouTube channels like wolfey and cybertron can show you breakdowns of games in action and teams and mons
For your teams most questionable things are nacl mimi. May I ask what you use them for?
Nacl can be good
Mimi I’m less familiar with but I think they’re decent in singles
thank you for that help that I want to get into the world of competitive Pokémon and I still don't know anything and I was watching many videos how you build the team
falopa._. has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422
I used the mimi as a support
What trick room?
yes
Like which ones?
Notable ones you’ll see a lot are
I want to use Dreepy Evolution as DPS but I don't have the purple pokemon
Indeedee, mainly female but a few male. Porygon 2 in specific. Gallade can. Farigiraf. And some others I think I’m missing
Dragspult is very strong yeah. Purple?
aaa ok, I'll be seeing what you sent me to learn how to improve my mechanics
Look at upcoming tournaments. Whole weekend they stream them
And many past ones to watch
These are official with commentaries and break segments exploring mons
I don't have the pokemon sword or shield because of that and what I read was exclusive to the purple
After streamed match time is great as they explore the team
Okay, thanks, I'll be attentive
You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1727670416:R>.
Sorry I’m a little confused. But I can tell you a website called showdown lets you make teams and face off just like on the switch
And you can make teams to your hearts content
And for cart there is #rental_teams
ah okay
Wow actually lots of those are reg G damn
Current reg is reg H
But I’d recommend showdown to start out
what does H stand for
It has shit like /dt to look up moves and abilities
And /weak (mons name) or (type/type) to see what’s super effective and resisted
I was learning in ranked now I will take more into account which team to use
Regulations are done by letter. So first ever reg was reg A
Wrong reply
Ah Spanish I see I believe they have auto generated subtitles to help you
I’m not gonna try to pull out my shit Spanish that’ll make this harder probably 😭
Hello, what equipment do you recommend to protect Meowscarada for single battles?
I hope I'm with Google Translate
hahaha calm down I'm not forcing you I'm grateful for your help and time
Yeah I’m just joking no sweat
Wolfe actually has manually done Spanish subtitles
Compared to auto generated
Hahaha, I had believed it
I know this as it keeps turning on for his videos so I get some Spanish practice in 😭
That option is good, thank you
falopa._. has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422
But yeah he’d be good and the subtitles seem accurate. Saying the Spanish move name rather than just straight translating it from English. Which can be wrong
I don't know many English I'm a beginner of the beginner
if it usually happens that I translate something and it's not the word
Yeah move names aren’t hard translations they can be changed to have different wording
Which is why manually done is a blessing
Thanks I'm going to be full focused now on Pokemon
You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1727671323:R>.
Be careful for burnout. It’s a bitch
If that's right, some don't translate well into Spanish
Yup. Which is why they’re changed to translate better. But that makes it hard to go between languages
Calm down, I come from Valorant, I no longer have mental exhaustion
Yes, better because if it's not the middle mess
Oh brother you and me both. LOL, valo, siege.
Just trust me this is a very different part of your brain
dhdhsaldsa
It would be nice but I'm from Latam :C
Yah
Easy team to start is probably a hyper offensive team(HO). No set up just attack with move that does most
They can be trick room or tailwind.
If you like one speed choice over the other I can tell you a team for that
I want a team like balanced
Ah
Balance teams. Cool
Makes sense you have incin and amoon already
Pelipper archaludon I believe could work well with those
Are you familiar with archapeli duo?
But I do it defensively. ...
This would be defensive. You just need some offense too
I don't know them
Incin and suss both are defensive. They will defend archaludon
Healing. Attack redirection. Flinch. Intimidate
baxscalibur my ofender
That works too. Just saying another mon good with swapping
Hold on this takes a bit to explain
This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Raises the user's Special Attack by 1 stage on the first turn. If the user is holding a Power Herb or the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, the move completes in one turn. If the user is holding Utility Umbrella and the weather is Primordial Sea or Rain Dance, the move still requires a turn to charge.
Electric
Special
130
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Has a charging turn.
Does not make contact.
Very powerful move that raises special attack. In rain doesn’t take two turns
Pelipper gains this ability
On switch-in, this Pokemon summons Rain Dance.
And a similar move to electro shot called hurricane. Very strong flying move that always hits in rain
Very strong duo offensively
And archa is very bulky and ability is this
This Pokemon's Defense is raised by 1 stage after it is damaged by a move.
So strong defensively
Archaludon is recommended
And it can learn snarl for special attackers
Recommending something strong is all.
Theirs teams like this in the tournament I sent. I highly recommend watching those games and seeing the breakdown
aaa yes I'm watching those games to see but Archa is obtained in a DLC
Showdown my friend
And if you want to play on cart. Rental teams and trading can help you a lot
You can trade for dlc mons
okay that works for me
Great
Would you help me if when I have the equipment ready to try it
The one thing I’m confident in saying
Buena suerte amor
In what way?
2vs2ç
Ohh practice matches?
yes
You can face anyone on showdown it has a ranked system
And you can share link here and ask for feedback
But yes I would be down to just can be busy at times
And there is people much smarter and better than me at this
If anyone like tofu or Emma critique my advice trust theirs over mine
aaa give it all the advice you have given me and I will be aware of everything from my team
Ty
People can be much more in depth on why stuff is good and ways to think as you play
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For team building 
It’s time for people to cook with jolly max speed kingambit
Already did
Lol
I’ve been doing that since Reg C
Adamant Max Spe cause Jolly misses KOs and you’re not outspeeding anything relevant enough (like any base 100 sure but eh)
Hello
Hoi
Wus good
Nice
Weegeecee
moment
anyone wanan do the legndary bp quests so we can get all of em
vc?\
still in school but ehhhh idk if i can do that in break
ok
yeah i'm gonna stop playing Reg H
i got lucked more than other regs+Teams are unpredictable in the slightest+Don't wanna tilt
feels like a case of "Careful what you wish for", lots of complaints about all the teams being the same over the years, now we have a very open Reg and people don't like it 🤷 thats not a dig at you btw @solid frigate , just an observation
The probelm is this isn't healthy variation
It's throwing bad mons at the wall or wacky sets for surprise
Also anyone who complains all the teams are exactly the same don't know what they're talking about imo
See above
its more like
I'm quitting due to stress,I broke 1400 alr
and i have 2 events to go next year so yeah
ill be there with you 😉
nah
Kyogre literally just say:Nah You need to chill out
it may feel this way when you strictly play mid ladder bo1 or low ladder bo3 but if you tough it you youll find consistency in teams and pairings ghat will be fun to navigate through, you could even consider irl local tournaments or limitless tournaments as those often will give you pairings of “predictable” teams
I like this take, meta is pretty well defined in what works and can stick vs what wont and will fade out of usage
It'd function the same depending on your exact views of functioning imo
the team would be different though
evs do different things, mons can serve different roles
If it's the same 6, spreads could be different so "oh you can kill/live this thing you couldn't before" yet like if it's the same Arch Rain 6, the way it plays still ain't different
Have to have like a moveset or ability change to really like
Do i Want to play more vgc 🤔
tofu died
sure
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what a fun and healthy meta game
brother you lost in 1100 elo
Emma how are you here
I hit your kneecaps with crowbar
im just a girl
Girls are immune to crowbars?
What that
it’s literally just a minecraft movie abt parkour being a currency to run the world and ur status is determined by how well you parkour, it blew up on tiktok now i wanted to watch the entire thing lmfao
Id do mc parkour irl for u
Oh that thing where it's like "the Minecraft noobs.live down here" or whatever?
yeah LOL
what if i put my minecraft bed next to yours
or maybe in the end
I can already sense the explosions
Capitalist maze runner
@merry summit what if i broke ur bed and then i killed you in minecraft
or worse what if you were a parkour noob😭
WHAT THE HEC
the fu-
hahah you’d literally be the worlds bitch
nah ur parkour noob lvl
??? 1v1 rn
wanna do a 1 block jump for raw chicken or a 1 block upwards jump for raw beef
your name is a LIE
it should be LEAH #1 hater!!!
I won in 1v1 so im better comp player sowwy ;/
i dont hate my wife!!!!

Woof woof bark
nova
haaiiiiii

hello!
howre yooouuuuu
Hai bestie
Reg H seems so silly
i am of the opinion that furrest should be given the fur coat ability
can both be true
Ah yes
Give it that ability so it can still not be used
It needs a regional form/evolution
I legitimately forgot swanna was in this game completely
Okay I see
It’s immune to spore in the rain
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FLUFF
There’s a chance that would actually make it good
Like tbh
not sure it would be my choice of hydration user, but fair play
had a laugh after seeing the Furret post the other day and took a Furret into singles with Sash Endeavor quick attack lol
Ludicolo 😉 Grass immune to spore, has swift swim instead
It’s true
There is actually I think
Negative reason to use swanna
I think swanna is like
Not for battling swanna is for looking very pretty
its a contest pokemon if ive ever seen one
bro got deleted 
shame competitive pokemon contests never became a thing, plenty of FABULOUS trainers around 😉
Swanna is the same as furret
They were not meant to be battled with
But people like me who are extremely bored will do it anyways
And also cus I love furret
LOL goodnight
Psyduck being a part of my team makes every battle silly 
Psyduck hype 
See its the hope that kills me with Ludicolo, its mid so has had some useage in the past. Would prefer it was just a cute mon with no hope lol
Damn nice hydraple team
That was a funny battle
best niche pokemon team is when you don't need to use your niche pokemon 🤣
Psyduck is a cutie
gotta figure which mark I wanna get the duck with.
Cloudy?
a pokemon that has benefitted beautifully from 3d modelling
slow pace yeah,i did a furret walk friday before
i remember it well from Pokemon Colosseum
I want an XXXS shiny furret
surely it has to be the Absent minded
Like maximum small
any advise is greatly appreciated, feel my biggest weakness is a lack haze/clear smog https://pokepast.es/7ad5513b6f3a93ba
Could get pretty easily walled by a donzo set
Archa peli can break through dozo
Spam eshot and hurricane basically
fair
- tera steel *
Spam body press and weather ball
also Archaludon has auto Iron Defense basically
unaware though
does anyone have a good support cloak volc set? I have no idea how to EV it
unaware so itll always be +0 bp
ehhh does any dozo still run Oblivious or is everyone running Unaware
everyone runs unaware
all unaware yeah
Why wouldn’t you run unaware lol
There is zero reason run oblivious. I have seen some randoms do that dumb mistake
no idea
Unaware is what makes dozo a threat
the intim and taunt immunity don't come close to unaware's effects
Without unaware dozo probs wouldnt be even used at any point
Solo Dozo used to run Oblivious and in other formats not as set-up heavy, Oblivious was used
Is Sun viable anymore at all? Seems hard to run on ladder
I've actually been running a sun team and I just hit 1620 on ladder with it
It's a bit unorthodox though so probably not the best example
But I think Torkoal TR Sun is the only viable sun team
Ninetales is kind of trash and Torkoal is already such a threat that it works amazingly
Torkoal does hit incredibly hard with Eruption
I'm trying to make a H-Typhlosion sun team work. Seems tough since I have no experience with sun
I recommend manual weather in Whimsicott, gives you speed control and weather control
Ofc! Whimsicott has been doing its role well. I struggle with making the team mesh well together
Theres a bunch of Hyphlosion teams out there
Its just it’s a very linear mon
Esp since it tends to run either Choice Scarf/Specs
lol
a lot of those more linear mons either have faded out (typhloshion) or have to be re imagined (ape and maus)
the metas way more figured out for those mons to be effective in such a one trick fashion
Meanwhile gambit rilla pult sneasler remains strong lol
thanks
treeco. has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd
you’re welcome 🙂
man ppl werent lying eu is boring af
Lmfao
What are you playing rn?
few a9s made day 2
Dondozo balance whatt
wtf
havent played much in the last cppl weeks
last i was using rain tho
yep
really good for the mirror a lot of times or jus vs opposing balance set up in general. also vs other dozo
haha the funny button
Hopefully I don’t have to fight that shit
u prolly will
Nuh uh (it’ll be the first thing)

I think, from what I’ve played pult gambit rilla clef feels so strong
And then 5/6 are just kinda ok
I’m currently rotating through sneasler Prima Tauros and volc
Volc unfortunately just, its coverage sucks
delphox and h zoroark in day 2
That winning team is super cool
seems like a good core
misty terrain tech is kind of nutty
Delphox is real
It is lol, it’s getting the rest I’m working on atm
Glad Pults meta I like pult
Anti Ursa and amoonguss is is awesome
I haven’t tried it yet but I might
solo ape is also on my radar
very, the ability to not go for the bait w/ misty terrain prankster whims is crazy but like makes sense and it paid off obviously
not an easy call to go for and then stick with even if the merits are there
Won’t work for everyone
even if he clicked it once
Mhmm
yeah
Oh my Primarina ate a Tera normal Bloodmoon today that was weird
Wish we couldve seen it action
also ape on its own, chomp and dreigon together
the team is weird but it obviously works
I played that for a minute lmao
yea i jus mean collectively u didnt really see that 6 at all before
Misty terrain also nullifies dragon moves
some of them on the same team sure but not all 6 and not like that
I played with, the teams dengo hydrei chomp whimsi clef and, ape?
so thats a plus for chomp and hydrei dragon weakness a little
I had half of it lol
Yeah you were pretty close to it lol
I’m off of a9 rn cuz I kinda just wanna play good stuffs
u have a fairy type on the field to redirect idk if thats as relevant but yea it could come up
can somone log into pokemon sword and sheild to do a ranked battle agansit me, trying to do the poke job glitch free win also no one was doing them. for xp
Yeah fair
2 fairies and a steel type
unless ur preparing for it to go down and have chomp and dreigon to clean up in the back. like its def an option
but yea also that, ur hurting urself too if u wanna click a dragon move
two ghost two dragons two fairies
gta b specific wen ur clicking it that u dont need that as an option
yep mentioned that yday, pretty wild lol
usually a team would have 1 double up not 3
My bad i mustve missed that lol, at least he still has a dfs core
yeah thats pretty wild
nah ur good i didnt mean u couldnt bring it up jus meant like ik, its wacky lol
1 maybe 2 double up is normal
agreed lol
3 is usually too much weakness overlap
2 usually is pushing it depending on the type overlap
since like zacian and flutter dont share weaknesses but both are fairies
shit like that
i jus gave it as an example not that it was good necessarily
whims zacian do share a fire weakness tho
was picking an ex that didnt have any shared weakness that jus came to mind 1st
I can’t think of any others lol
Was about to say I cant either lol
mamo and garchomp
Enamorous? XD
rotom wash and pelipper
most effective double ups do share weaknesses lmao which is why u dont see more then 1 generally and why 2 is usually pushing it
nd why the 3 is genuinely very nutty lol
and all 3 share weaknesses
tera helps a lot
otherwise these kinda teams wouldnt work imo
which is unfair to say since that is the mechanic
cause a lot of gen 8 teams would not work now either haha
Yea
Hey Maya
Do you have another person running Furret?
Could be fuchsia if it’s the same team
with some random goofy sounding nickname
Like “4xweaktogothgirls”
Saw one with Armadee
Huh not sure
How high was it?
Did I find you on the ladder?
i don’t think so-
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Is that your name?
lmao no that’s not me
So I found some random running Furret on ladder that isn't connected to Maya
yeah prolly
endeavour sentrets been a thing-
though i am interested in furret now-

who doesn’t like furret-
It’s so cute
Manual sun is definitely different, I’ve recently found success with Scovillian on a team with Torkoal so maybe if you find Hyphlosion too linear you could try something else linear, TR !
Hyphlosion feels great when it works. Just plays too much like a glass cannon when your moves get read.
I might go back to Torkoal honestly. I never really struggled as much with it.
He can be very frail yeah
What Torkoal set do you usually run? I never actually looked at a pre made one and just made my own which may or may not suck
https://pokepast.es/2226219c74766352
This is what I usually use. It's nothing special but it gets the job done if I need him around longer
Ahh, a more supportive one
I run max spatk with charcoal
As well as I use clear smog instead of hh and weather ball instead of earth power
Granted I have no other dozo counter and I’m also using Ursaluna
Clear smog sounds like a solid option on the side. I might use it over Earth Power possibly.
I did experiment with Weather Ball before! Another solid choice imo.
I once had an interaction where an Alolan Ninetales switched in and I weather balled their Garchomp
He exploded
Scovillian works on the team mostly because no one knows it gets rage powder
That's sneaky lol
Definitely
Then I gave it lorb just to really send a message
It also has leaf storm but that’s mostly for stuff like Primarina
I used to do this strat a lot against opposing weather teams. I might just use weather ball again since rain and sand are popping up more often
I find with those though most of them will run stuff that resist it anyway
I definitely got lucky with the chomp and snow combo
But that fire and ice coverage was nasty
I’ve also found that regular Ursaluna is very good into sand teams
My rain answers are definitely a bit iffier but if that pelipper goes down it’s game over for them
I’ve also been using a Tera fire AV Kingambit
Dude lives literally everything
Kingambit? Sounds like a good pick...
I like it as a safety net option
Works incredibly well in TR but sucker punch does amazing damage outside of it aswell
And also discourages incin
I always forget about Kingambit. Dunno why
I mean if you’ve played ladder in the last 2 weeks he’s on like every team
At least that’s what it feels like
They usually like running a Tera dark SD set
It blows up a lot of stuff but I prefer the AV variant
AV sounds a bit better. Ofc SD does the unholy damage, but survivability is appreciated
I really like Tera fire for will o wisp prevention as well as a sure fire way to kill Hyphlosion so I don’t get rolled
What would be a solid coverage move for AV Kingambit?
Nice one. I've seen some odd Kingambits running around with Assurance too. I do like Low Kick however
Assurance is so odd to me
Why run 3 dark moves, seems pointless
Even if they replace kowtow, kowtow is amazing
I mean a 120 BP move is nuts but - Prio is typically bad
And kowtow not being able to miss is crazy good
Just takes some randomness out of the game
And with sucker punch being unreliable, I like having a surefire 85 BP move to use
Your inputs have been really helpful so far. I appreciate it a lot
No problem, talking about my reasonings for stuff actually helps me to better apply it when battling
It's helping me fix up my sun team as we speak lol
Furret might be goated
Is Furret the new Maushold?!!?
Yooo! Furret a goat now!

turns out sunny day was not the play
i dont think ive ever won a game clicking sunny day
so now she has helping hand
uwu
Nice

o/ all...im still completely a noob when it comes to VGC and team building. So please be gentle xD
I hate playing the "meta" and like theory crafting a lot of my own stuff. Sometimes it works most the time it doesnt. Some of it could be lack of experience and game knowledge of the 1K mons. I really like Garganacle with fissure for this Archalodon problem we have going around. Could I get some tips and recommendations on what to change and make edits to? Hoping to keep Garga + grimm cause i really like screens with a beefy OHKO spammer xD mainly just for the dozo players and archalodon players. So i need the team to work against other things that are the meta teams atm.
-Rookie looking for help
Before I give advice I would like you run through the decisions made for some of the Pokémon to end up on the team, you already have reasons for the first 2 but what about the other 4?
bro out here giving advice for VGC when he needs to sleep. i hope you arent too tired tomorrow 
Nah I’ve been getting 6 hours of sleep for the past week, I’m surviving and thriving
heres what i would say
your team is a bit passive
you can get away with 3 supports if the other 3 can hard carry the game
but generally 2 pokemon that dont deal any consisnt damage is ussually a sweet spot i would say
but 4 is like
your gonna have a hard time actually picking up any kills
also i would swap to non scarf ape if your beating up
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Can't have Maya outdoing me too much now can I
T500 with the pepper
nice job conner!!!
Same to you
Exactly
Who summoned me
So made some changes. Ape is now AV and tera fire to combat burn. Can still beat up for rage fist or just be a beefy attacker. Volc is already SpDef beefy and a standard Quiver Dance build with grimm to use reflect and screens for more beef on garganacl and the 2 of those. Mouse can beat up ape for rage fist or use follow me for redirection. he also has Sunny day to reset rain for those nasty rain teams. Lastly a Multiscale Dnite for Tailwind purposes and some heavy Att and Speed investments. Thoughts? Open to everyones opinion and tips. Still learning XD I thought Ice spinner was nice for terrains like psy terrain from indeedee.
pretty sure Garganacl has Iron Defense-
what do u drop for it tho? Hard pick. Could even drop body press for like a heavy slam or something i guess
Have you thought about misty terrain on grimm, lots of dragons around
swapping parting shot i guess would be best?
Yes
i don't think Fissure is necessary
You could just Run Salt Cure,Body Press,Protect,Wide Guard/Iron Defense/Heavy Slam
Rock
Purifying Salt, Sturdy, Clear Body (Hidden)
100/100/130/45/90/35
500
240kg (120 BP)
2.3m
Generation 9
Naclstack
Mineral
M: 50%, F: 50%
Brown
i like fissure for Arch/rain teams. Plus any dondozo tasu teams its nice.
But are you gonna use that Move?
Hell Salt Cure just straight up deletes their Health because Water and Steel types took 1/4 damage fromSalt Cure
these 4 mons are all Water or Steel
i have so far for a couple arch games. And your right salt cure is good into steel and water types
ill try it out see what happens
Causes damage to the target equal to 1/8 of its maximum HP (1/4 if the target is Steel or Water type), rounded down, at the end of each turn during effect. This effect ends when the target is no longer active.
Rock
Physical
40
100
15 (24)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
Hello
im trying hisuian samurott over prim in kingambit balance
I have question is it possible to trace good as gold ?
i think so theoretically
The thing is i play double match lately agains't porygon2 with trace i always send out dhengo and archaludon as lead but the porygon always trace stamina no matter what
wonder if you could manipulate that to have it trace Truant 🤣
dunno about the double fighting weak-
it is
Hai Nova
hello Monke
sooaghheti
?????
Updated my Arch rain team to add Gholdengo back into the mix since Sneasler has seen a high surge in usage. The current Gholdengo set is one I used during reg F, and I'm not sure what the most optimal build is for reg H. I'm also still debating between life orb and mystic water on the Basculegion. Also swapped out Rillaboom for Amoonguss as I feel it pairs better with Gholdengo for some extra redirection. I'd appreciate some tips on how I can improve the team.
Just random throwing idea out there, what if you did gholdengo clefable samurrott
Good luck!!
I was just thinking my team benefits from coaching but I don't have room
I forgot sneasler learns it
Coaching sneasler good
@rustic mountain @mighty stump that JJK ending was so ass
Taunt kinda pog
I will stand by the opinion that JJK is mid
JJK was good, but bad ending for manga
Yea ik you bullied me with it
Hehehehe
Sounds it
Went away from it lol
It wasn't bad but like
Wasn’t working?
Team full of physical attackers even with 3 of em blocking Intim still was exploitable
Fair
Playing with Prim and Magmar now
magician mechanics are wacky
delphox steals the item even if the opponent protects...
even if the attack misses...
it's innevitable that you will lose an item
It also has to lose its item tho right?
I'm tryna decide how much I wanna double up on Fairies rn
Like Prim alright but I'd like to go Prim + Clef
Prim and clef feels ok
yeah i mean yeah blaze life orb is just stronger
i wish i could click tera fighting helping hand tera blast into archaludon and it just kills it
but that's onlyv avaliable for the life orb one
But I don’t really bring both to a match
I'm just like
Super against Volc lmao
https://pokepast.es/04655e32bd5dd617 my team atm
I’m kinda 50/50 on the sneasler rn
I’m using them cuz it’s what I had in the builder
And I haven’t had an issue with it lol
it looks fuckin strong
It is lol
It had volcarona for a bit but a certain someone kinda pushed me out of it
Well I'd bring both lol
Arch Rain I'd bring Clef Prim Rilla Sneasler
Or like, the push to take it off the team
Wha no way 
That or I’m just kinda over dealing with it’s ass coverage
Or I might actually say fuck it and go with the dumb Magmar idea I had
Fire and grass coverage sucks rn
That's my deal
The coverage is ass and there's just so much that bullies the fuck out of it
Maybe playing bug buzz with sitrus would be a better idea
But yea I’m not a fan of volc rn
I feel like the meta just naturally warped against Volc without even trying
Fuck it
Time for Tera Electric Magmar 
Tauros also fell off
to be honest iv been noticing that
the grass specifically
Dragon ain't bad cuz Weather Ball from Peli hurts Mag, but Electric probably still eases the pain
there was a time
Volcs coverage is just kinda ass
Now we have Archaludon
Fun fact, Tera Electric Magmar can basically be an pseudo-Electabuzz 
Yea monke we know lol
i would call them amzing because they have no downsides
I would go Clef, but idk if I wanna have double Fairy with Sneasler running around like a maniac
vital spirit means they dont need saftey goggles
extra bulky with eviolite
they have taunt shit
amazing
Fair ig
You have a steel type, play around opposing sneasler lol
CC be like
Clef gambit
Counter argument: your mom
so far so good https://pokepast.es/6bf358bc79bee38e

Also Wisp kinda nice too tbf
wacky
Especially since no Flame Body since like
Why would I gamble and then have to use Tera Grass to be able to redirect Spore when I can just use my ability to do so
I think both contact abilities could be superb, but it's just the fact there's a better ability
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I have been working on an all psychic themed type team for a server event. Free ability patch for the battle
im seeing so many poison touch sneasler, i dont get it
Cuz people use Focus Sash and Sash Unburden is dog ass
Unburden only good with seeds and tbh some prefer to keep Sash and play without an ability to live more than one hit always vs not always living one hit and at times still playing without ability
Nah the 50% chance of Dire Claw and the iirc 30% of Poison Touch are separate
Poison Touch will actually pop up on your screen if you proc poison off of that
ah
And iirc Dire Claw roll goes first always
Plus Poison Touch means you can proc poison on any of its contact moves
Might also try non Clear Smog Gastrodon
I already Yawn and basically wall Dozo with Tera Fairy so
I'm tempted to say fuck Sneasler and go Lum Berry
Whoa wtf happened
Comp chat literally started fading out of existence for me
Server did same thing for me
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what rank is it considered good for a beginner?
its all relative
what do you consider good for a beginner?
if your goal is master rank that is very achievable
it is? seems sooooo hard!
obviously everyone is different but the first season I decided to go vgc over bss
I made master ball around 15000
I think you can do it!
what helped me is finding a archetype I liked alot
in swsh series 2 it was hard trick room
rn im enjoying balance
any tool recomendations cause i dont like to copy paste team?
are you brand new?
i played a little on ss
what do you use
Can't imagine you using HTR I'm sorry
I found hyper offense soon after that team
I think it was cinder meta
Almost one of the same? Idfk
gengar lead, stall tox umbreon, blood ursa, dragonite, scizor, milotic
what format do you play doubles or singles
singles
ah then I can't help sorry
Thanks anyway ❤️
shadowviiking has given 1 Gen Rep to redstonejesus
here you go the first team i posted to twitter
I FOUND IT
Bro read my mind
this is the first time team I ever got to masterball with
I was SOOOOOOOOOOOO proud of this
I just realized
was i guts with no flame orb
I WAS SELF PROC LMAOOOOO
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2213909675
well this happened
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LMFAO UR SO MEAN
Lmao I legit did the same today
Me and another incin flare blitz each other down but I had more hp 😭
you bullied him with clef bc talon is such an ass attackerrrr

We both parting shot each other 6 times before this too 😭
Took like 20 turns for the shititest 1v1
hoi
hey
yeah balance is the play for sure
just hit master ball
667 with 8-2 win loss
not a bad showing
im hungry









