competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

the lack of consistent natural checks into top threats lead to an unhealthier kind of meta. usually a rock paper scissors kind of formula makes it so no 1 thing becomes too oppressive. it feels this format lacks that usual status quo

nd i dont hate it

i jus dont like it as much as i originally thought. its fine

like i said its still early

[solid frigate]

Dengo is the most use in Munchstats bo1 and b03

Which it makes sense

[mighty stump]

very varied typings make it weird

[bold geode]

It's literally just fucking stupid, so many things with virtually no checks, teams just feeling horrible for me straight after feeling good, bad MUs being straight up fucking unwinnable no matter what, the people hating legendaries winning that can go fuck themselves with a baseball bat, need I go on

[rustic mountain]

for sure

[bold geode]

Time to watch Cybertron fight some teams or scour LabMaus and Limitless for teams that will just fucking fail again

[mighty stump]

I think because its so rock paper scissors

find something you like rather than start by accounting for meta

and then go from there

otherwise no direction

[bold geode]

Literally you wanna win this Reg? Here's what you do
Either run Clef balance cuz it good or run Psyspam cuz even a fucking idiot who doesn't have enough brainpower to stop drooling on his fucking lap can brute force shit with that team

Boom, Regulation figured out

[solid frigate]

thats kinda the reason i don'twant Reg G Showdown ladder to be deleted-

[bold geode]

Yet I love how everyone was like "oh this Regulation is gonna be so great"
How fucking foolish we were

[balmy glen]

whos we

[solid frigate]

Whos we

[rustic mountain]

ngl the back and forth from the reg h announcement every1 being thrilled jumpin off reg g to then a month in and ppl already want reg g back

[bold geode]

Anyways I think I like MausApe Gastro so I'll go with that

[rustic mountain]

is very funny

[bold geode]

Then again I immediately think I want Rilla and that means oh wait I'm starting to go back to what I already had yay

[rustic mountain]

u wanted this

[balmy glen]

?

[rustic mountain]

jus messing w/ u

[balmy glen]

.

?

[solid frigate]

i kinda don't really want Reg H but i stay neutral

[rustic mountain]

i feel like u did at 1st

[balmy glen]

i mean the reg is fine its just less versatile

[foggy lodge]

i think its fine

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

Reg h is fine, just have the lines you need to beat the stuff ah the top

[balmy glen]

imagine needing lines moment

[molten oasis]

I’ve come around cuz I think there’s a lot of interesting things going on

[solid frigate]

tell that to Legendary Haters that wants this Reg

Look at what they face now

[molten oasis]

Ok Mr perfect

[balmy glen]

nah i just think having lines is kinda fake

[rustic mountain]

keanu jus going off vibes 🤝

[solid frigate]

i can't really find the sauce currently but who cares when i am skipping it

[foggy lodge]

i prefer it over reg g even tho i did decent in reg g

[molten oasis]

Having lines into mu’s is fake?

[rustic mountain]

i think reg g was better

[solid frigate]

Exactly

[rustic mountain]

its not fake but especially for bo3 those lines become blurred and u gta be able to adapt on the fly. doesnt mean not to have any idea how to approach a mu tho

but u become to rigid in how u play it becomes very readable

[balmy glen]

everyone plays teams differently too

[rustic mountain]

also that

[balmy glen]

i feel like lines just make plays become npc like lol

[solid frigate]

its kinda like 3 Archetypes that works in Reg H

Reg G at least have 8 Archetypes as a Meta

[rustic mountain]

nah its more then 3 lol

[balmy glen]

as long as you know how to not sell your match and adapt youll be fine in most scenarios

[solid frigate]

fair lol

[rustic mountain]

still tho reg g was more versatile

[solid frigate]

but still Less than Reg G in terms of Viability

[rustic mountain]

much more then originally thought

[molten oasis]

My life is a lie

[solid frigate]

yeah we got top 8 best Restricted Archetypes and some few ones that works like Groudon,Rayquaza and NDW

[rustic mountain]

everyones approach is different too, wat works for some1 might not be the same for u

but generally u dont wanna commit too hard on having "lines" i think it should be more loosely defined as just having an understanding of the mu

[solid frigate]

i think what i do rn if i skip reg h,take a little break or do some theory crafting in Reg G Wave 2

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[rustic mountain]

i think those archetypes branched out to become more then just 8 archetypes for the 8 best restricteds, thats wat made it versatile

[solid frigate]

exactly,I mean Kyogre and Terapagos have 3 at least

[foggy lodge]

yeah there was the set up balance pagos, the hard TR caly ice, those things

Which were the top 8 restricteds?

[rustic mountain]

i jus mean like even within that, there were specs pagos too, csr had more ho stuff w/ dozo do well but also the balance stuff etc

[solid frigate]

Both Calys,Terapagos,Miraidon,Kyogre,Koraidon,Lunala,Zamazenta

Zacian is top 9 in this context

[foggy lodge]

Zacian is better tha Lunala imo

[solid frigate]

it could be interchangable

[rustic mountain]

they both did around the same i think, zacian mightve been slightly higher

both fringe picks regardless

[solid frigate]

and people thought Terapagos fallen off

And now it is in top 8 in Worlds

I would say its a success for my turtle

[foggy lodge]

the thing i think i never saw was a Koraidon make it to top 8 at any regional lol

[solid frigate]

thank god Miraidon won otherwise Calyrex is my bane

[rustic mountain]

koraidon turned out to be the fraud

[foggy lodge]

It is

[solid frigate]

i think there is one in one of the regionals

[solid frigate]

Miraidon:WHO'S THE FRAUD RN BI-

[rustic mountain]

nd miraidon beat the fraud allegations and is now a world champion

[balmy glen]

koraidon is better in double restricteds

[solid frigate]

kinda wanna make a meme of Miraidon telling that to Koraidon

[bold geode]

Fuck I wanna use Dragapult with Band, but I also have Band Harc

[solid frigate]

do you have Lorb slot on?

[bold geode]

I don't have Lorb

But is Lorb Pult even?

[solid frigate]

i mean thats a second option if you want a Offensive Pult

what item does Harc use besides Band

[bold geode]

Unless I go Specs Pult lmao

[solid frigate]

i mean it can work lmao

Draco/Pulse,Shadow Ball,Two Coverage moves

or even Keep Uturn for Pivoting only

[dull ibex]

This is not ou

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/bb5a22624dc861f2 how this look?

[molten oasis]

Why?

[bold geode]

Band Harc

Either that or I just go back to Hydreigon and do like Focus Energy set

[bold geode]

Once again it's actually seen play

[dull ibex]

🤓 /jk

[molten oasis]

Fair

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/ab23780022a05b71
Fuck it we're just gonna basic balance this shit

[molten oasis]

I don’t get it what changed

[bold geode]

Now just Poison Touch Sneasler
The only sort of setup is Focus Energy Hydreigon, which is really there just because of cope that there's nothing else there that meets my specifications without making shit look even clunkier

[molten oasis]

Ah, btw I don’t think hydreigon is ass like tofu said

I think you just HAVE to have a deal with Clefable

[bold geode]

I mean Tofu does have a bit of a point, it's just like
Not many other Dark types I can look at that don't make the team look clunky without having to rework fucking everything

[molten oasis]

I didn’t have a great way to do that so I don’t use it rn

[molten oasis]

Sometimes that’s just how it be

[bold geode]

Anyways I also just realized Poison can work with Gastro lol
Maybe Gastro will be tanky enough to stall out some shit

[torn parrot]

Ngl

This frosmoth team looks fun

I had like half the team in my team builder before I saw the James baek video

😔

Now like no motivation to even think about frosmoth

[mighty stump]

You know what else is fun tho

[dull ibex]

tofu answer the question or i will weegeecee

[mighty stump]

What question

Weegeecee lets go

[dull ibex]

was the spikes on glimm on your blog a typo?

[mighty stump]

If you're referring to Toxic Spikes, that's from the ability lol

[dull ibex]

I actually am fighting a friend if you aren't working

[mighty stump]

You can self set sure if you want to but your coverage suffers

[mighty stump]

Im not, todays my off day

[dull ibex]

no you have spikes over spiky shiled

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

Wat

Lemme go fix that

[dull ibex]

I would say join my personal discord but its uh rather full atm unless you wanna mute until its less not quiet lmao

[mighty stump]

Which paste

[dull ibex]

goldenwind HO

[mighty stump]

Fixe

dd

[torn parrot]

Haha XD

[rustic mountain]

[dull ibex]

awesome

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I love missing willo wisp and getting crit over and over again

My rng is so bad

I might genuinely start just running moves that don’t have a chance to miss

So sick of it lol

[dull ibex]

I wonder if I can put trick room on this clef team

[molten oasis]

Or moves with at most 95% accuracy

Cuz icy wind doesn’t feel like it had a fucking 50% hit rate

[torn parrot]

Yeah I hate innacurate moves

[bold geode]

Once again, losing but it's to dumb shit or just super shit play so 🤷‍♂️
Yay once again the problem of not knowing if team is shit or not when the team is probably just indeed shit

[foggy lodge]

So this team has been actually working decent, any ideas to improve it? https://pokepast.es/91b625fa983d70f9

[dull ibex]

this reg has been damaging to my mental ngl

[molten oasis]

I had a wisp thrown at a ttar, and I won that game if it hit, guess what? lol

Game before, rock slide missed typhlosion

Yesterday I hit like 4 out of 15 Draco meteors

Wisp missed and then I got crit by their kingambit

I LOVE LOSING TO RNG

I literally CANNOT be in a good position and not get screwed over by the genuine hatred of god, WHAT DID I DO WRONG TO DESERVE SUCH BAD FUCKING LUCK

[balmy glen]

dont play then

then your mental wont be hurt 🙂

[molten oasis]

I’m taking a break again, sick of losing to games to “a critical hit!” And “_ missed”

It’s bullshit and it feels like it only happens to my side of the field

So I’m done, it’s bullshit, and it’s infuriating, and I hate it

[dull ibex]

behold

[molten oasis]

maybe my want to improve will change that tomorrow but idk anymore

High risk no reward for me

[balmy glen]

the reward is becoming a pokemon master

[molten oasis]

Man

[balmy glen]

meh dont get mad at ladder

[molten oasis]

It’s really hard not to when my games are thrown out the window cuz my harc has 30% accuracy

[balmy glen]

well i mean

[molten oasis]

Just feels like I learned nothing and got shit on because yes

[balmy glen]

show me ur team

[molten oasis]

It’s not great but here ya go

[balmy glen]

using h arc means u cant really blame rng so i mean

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/bb5a22624dc861f2 first 4 feel fine (when harc does its damn job), still unsure on the other 2

[torn parrot]

Using mostly 100% accurate moves does help with a bit of that frustration
Makes you feel like the luck could have been avoided

Even when you get flinched two times in a row 😔

And they get a double protect to win them the game

[molten oasis]

Well, I know a lot of the time there was likely a better play

[mighty stump]

behold

im not using inaccurate moves naymore

[bold geode]

Behold

[molten oasis]

That’s what I’m considering tbh

[bold geode]

Become Riley Factura

[molten oasis]

Sure, I look for consistency

Harc, even tho it’s felt fine usually, has not been that

And I show my team to Keanu and he disappears

anyway

ugh the harc feels correct

I need that to handle typhlosion cuz otherwise I can’t

[torn parrot]

What about incin

[molten oasis]

…ok

Team of 3 passive mons

[torn parrot]

Thaaat is true

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/e5129de295e86860 idc if its an ass incin set, I need that spot to be offensive

[torn parrot]

Now im gonna sound like a real pos

But what if you slapped mausape instead of amoongus pawmot

[molten oasis]

…

[torn parrot]

Sorry XD

[molten oasis]

the dozo mu dissapears into thin air

Yk what whatever, might as well mausape is CONSISTENT

unlike SOMEONE I KNOW

https://pokepast.es/c2fa764f9205695c yippee

[torn parrot]

Lmao

let’s goooooo

[dull ibex]

behold

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/scourge-thor-ragnarok-my-stuff-gif-14269794

[dull ibex]

Beeholed

[bold geode]

My fatass had to heat up alfredo cuz I was hungry at midnight lol

[molten oasis]

Me showing my teams with ninetales to the discord once again

[dull ibex]

I ate buffalo flavored chex mix until my face hurt

(real thing that happened)

[bold geode]

See I ran out of snacks

[molten oasis]

I wish I had the confidence to play limitless tournaments

I don’t, I don’t have a team I’ve found consistent enough to feel good enough for a tournament

Nor do I think my playmaking is in a good spot

[bold geode]

I just get my ass kicked in them and tweak lol
I find more info about my teams in the tours than laddering tbh

[molten oasis]

I genuinely think a9 and dengo work well together and I like them, I just cannot, mmm, I’ve restarted so much

I think it’s just me at this point

Idk

I’ll go throw some new variant at the bo3 ladder, not the bo1 ladder, tomorrow

See if I can finally get something to stick

Sorry about the complaining

[bold geode]

@dull ibex behold the war

Notice, for it stays mogging

[dull ibex]

can't rn

[bold geode]

Can't behold the war?

[dull ibex]

no

[torn parrot]

Same here ngl

Tournaments make me physically shake and get anxious

And then I go into a negative spiral

[molten oasis]

I have a lot to work on

[bold geode]

https://x.com/45mice/status/1831338166504296514?t=CoyzRZ4yYjZ-2xMw5U84lQ&s=19

45mice (@45mice) on X

My reg H experience summarized so far 🥲

Twitter · Sep 4, 2024, 2:26 PM

[strange fjord]

i think the best solution to that is just doing a lot of tournaments (not in a row) so you can feel like "yeah Ive done this before, no need to be nervous."

though being nervous and a little shaky is normal i think. just gotta relax and not worry too much about winning or losing, just having fun.

[dull ibex]

Behold

[knotty mirage]

TBH i starting to miss reg G i really despise dozogiri and mausape

[molten oasis]

dont we all

[mighty stump]

Lol

I don't; even care about mausape/dozogiri

[knotty mirage]

Well i always thought reg H gonna have more variety than reg G but the variety is just peliarch mausape psyspam dozogiri and weather team on the side

[mighty stump]

lol

[knotty mirage]

This reg is either bring the right counter or you lose unlike reg G where you can just brute force almost everything

This is going to be a long 3 month really hope i can still keep my sanity before we finally go back to reg G

[molten oasis]

reg g felt like there were lots of variations around the restricted legends

which made more variety

i'd rather fight shifu again lol

[golden cliff]

Question , how come Gharchomp EQ / Kiloeattrel discharge Is not used?

I kinda followed the competitive in these years but never dig it

[knotty mirage]

Not much people use killowattrel i think i seen good amount of garchomp uses earthquake tho but most people prefer to use rock slide i guess because of fishing flinch and half of the meta mon weak to rock

[molten oasis]

It’s not, awful

Rillaboom is an issue tho

So if you can get of terrain and rilla then maybe you’d be fine

[knotty mirage]

I seen good amount of people now run ice spinner especially on dragonite so probably the reason they fine clicking EQ

[forest arrow]

I don’t like Eq rn with Rilla but to each their own

[solid frigate]

pls i need Urshifu lol

[solid frigate]

if you really hate Rillaboom's Grassy Terrain,you can use a Ice Spinner Mon or Indeedee

But its still clunky,Disquake would be great in Reg A but not in Reg H because of the Monke

[torn parrot]

That’s really good advice thank u (;

[gentle crag]

mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to pizza.time

[chrome knot]

why i only play sets in close circles ngl

[torn parrot]

Yeah that does sound more comfy

Ima see if my art school has a pokemon club

[chrome knot]

my practice is mostly just a daily bo5 series with a top player friend

[balmy glen]

just play tournaments to lose

that’s how I improved so fast in one season ngl

Like obviously you want to try and win the whole thing but if you don’t lose/scared to lose your not going to improve or get out of your comfort zone with certain plays and see the auto win con

Which is also kinda why I don’t believe in lines

[mighty stump]

Pretty much what Yotam also said

[balmy glen]

forgot Yotams jn here

[mighty stump]

Well that's what he said to me directly

[torn parrot]

You make a really good point

Just play to lose

Thank u

[torn parrot]

Also what’s a line

[mighty stump]

Basically a flowchart of decisions for a specific matchup

A plan

Usually its pre-prepared and meant for common/expected matchups

[zinc totem]

substitute dozo + toxic spikes and mortal spin glimmora is so annoying

[mighty stump]

just dont get poisoned

5head

[zinc totem]

hah yeah. good luck when it throws toxic spikes under you feet

[mighty stump]

Poison types absorb Toxic Spikes.

Steel is immune

Non-grounded units are unaffected

[zinc totem]

yeah but that one is still annoying af. Wide guard luckily protects from mortal spin

[mighty stump]

Just don't hit it with a Physical move

[zinc totem]

lmao it does manual toxic spikes

if it didnt, i wouldnt even lost to it haha

[mighty stump]

What kind of Glimmora did you see with both Mortal Spin and T-Spikes LOL

[zinc totem]

no idea!

[zinc totem]

that is what i lost to which was really annoyhing cuz how that even exists lol

it set was so weird too

spiky shield mortal spin t-spikes and power gem

like i was like the math woman meme

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[karmic temple]

Probably the passive

Oh I just read the previous message ignore me 🤪

[zinc totem]

why i always miss when i read well the d meteor/d pulse archaludon

i tera fairy d meteor for OHKO opponent archa, i miss while im immune to their mons attack

[zinc totem]

okay what are these wannabe toxic stall teams im seeing in 2000-3000 rank range in-game ladder

toxic spikes toxapex with curse sub protect mimikyu

[torn parrot]

You could try a poison tera on a mon

But that shit never works

[zinc totem]

well i do have poison tera Hecidu

[torn parrot]

You gotta tera it, swap out, get someone else poisoned

Then swap back in

sucks

[zinc totem]

i won against mimikyu team with archa

@torn parrot glimmora set was weird too like t-spikes, mortal spin, spiky shield and the rock gem shot whatever its called

and it was paired with somekind protect substitute tailwind hydreigon

and sub/protect tatsudozo in back

[torn parrot]

Iv actually seen a weezing set up t spikes

At first I thought it was weird but then it seemed kinda smart cus

Then he used poison gas

And I was like shit he’s just a glimmora with neutralizing gas

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2194769095-h43yt11hslkd4576fgfe0j28b295zdapw

Haha bitch

[zinc totem]

im reallu surprised they ran tera steel prima often you see grass or double uip on water

[torn parrot]

Yeah XD but I fought them before and they did it against my gholdengo

This is my personal favorite reg

[mighty stump]

i hate it

LOL

[zinc totem]

I also learned people play now population bomb carry maus and scarf gambit ape in same teams

[solid frigate]

Reg F is back

https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/events/grand-challenge-i/

[torn parrot]

And im not happy about it

Actually it’s fine

Bringing back old regs is cool

[solid frigate]

Yeah

Chi Yu wait for me

[torn parrot]

Wait what the hell this isn’t reg F

[solid frigate]

look at eligible Mons

[torn parrot]

Wait yes it is

I didn’t see Urshifu and I got hopeful

[solid frigate]

I'm PERFECTLY FINE ABOUT iT

[normal cedar]

These good sand team picks?

Mostly asking about tauros

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1831696989584494818?s=46&t=4hSutp4PceVkcJ95uMFA1w

Victory Road (@VGCVictoryRoad) on X

⚠️ The link in the official news is directed to the competition info page of the 2024 Global Challenge III.

The actual ruleset may be different. Please wait for further confirmation. 🙏

Twitter · Sep 5, 2024, 2:12 PM

[bold geode]

Give Ursh back

[molten oasis]

I’m playing ursh in unite due to the lack of ursh currently

[zinc totem]

Shame its in eligible mons

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-yippee-jump-happy-dance-gif-27595010

OH I GET TO USE THE KITTY AGAIN

Pao shifu gaming

[torn parrot]

sighfu

[solid frigate]

we take those

Peli Archa has threats now

[zinc totem]

@mighty stump seems that t-spike mortal spin glimmora is a thing now

[bold geode]

@molten oasis

[zinc totem]

all the way from reg C coming back

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[solid frigate]

Reg F here we come

[bold geode]

So it may be Reg F or it may not be Reg F

[zinc totem]

i was more excited it to be reg H tournament

i guess i wont be joining that online competition

[bold geode]

Nah tbh Reg F would be fun

[foggy lodge]

PaoTeiNite

[zinc totem]

where i slegendaries and paradoxes its never fun

[foggy lodge]

Lets gooooo

[foggy lodge]

Nah tbh why do people think legendary = broken

The only minor legendary that i hate is Urshifu

[molten oasis]

PaoTeiNite PaoShifu

[solid frigate]

i think its just people think Legendaries are big win button for them

When there are some legendaries just suckass

Ahem Munkidori

[foggy lodge]

winning with Inci Rilla is harder tha winning with Uxie obv

[bold geode]

I wonder how many people would add a speed point to Amoongus if Reg F came back cuz of Wolfe

[molten oasis]

lol

[solid frigate]

amoonguss would return definently

(Haven't seen amogus for a whilke)

[bold geode]

I would, solely because I'd be stealing his exact spread lmao

[solid frigate]

monke shenangins

[foggy lodge]

Which was the speed of its Amoonguss?

51 speed?

[solid frigate]

amogus supremacy moment

[karmic temple]

https://pokepast.es/e481c19ba4e2caf6

Any thots for a 6th? Ignore Tera’s 🤪

[torn parrot]

I don’t think flamigo is that hyped up about quiver dance

Might be cool to give oricorio baton pass over sub

[bold geode]

What in the fuck have you cursed my eyes with sir

[karmic temple]

My reg a/b dancer team 🤭🤭

[torn parrot]

Shell smash won’t work

Tokoal has negative speed 😔

[karmic temple]

After you lili

[torn parrot]

So it’s just for the damage boosts?

[chrome knot]

torkoal alone is a powerhouse

[karmic temple]

Correct

[torn parrot]

Have you ever gotten that off?

[chrome knot]

whyre u using the slower lilligant

[karmic temple]

Many a times

[torn parrot]

You shell smashed and then erupted?

[karmic temple]

Quiver dance

[karmic temple]

Correct!

[chrome knot]

great so every mon has to setup first

surely this cant go wrong

[torn parrot]

Well if you insist then I recommend adding a redirect at least

[karmic temple]

The best part is, it doesn’t!! 🤭

[torn parrot]

I don’t wanna be mean

[chrome knot]

in what elo…?

[karmic temple]

(It does I’m being facetious)

[torn parrot]

I’m trying so hard

Oh lol

[chrome knot]

shocked

[torn parrot]

Add a redirector at least if this is just a goofing off team

Might make things not go wrong as much

[karmic temple]

Ya debating the clef line or maus but haven’t figured which I like better

[torn parrot]

whys the flamigo have copy cat

its to copy quiver dance isnt it

i dont know if im a beleiver in this guy

[karmic temple]

Copy cat quiver or revelation dance to proc it on oricorio

[molten oasis]

If every mon has to set up to do anything you’re gonna get punished for passive play

[torn parrot]

yeah i think dedicate like a few mons to your setup strats and then the other guys to just round out the team

[molten oasis]

1-2 set up mons, rest of team supports then setting up or covers for them offensively

Or you try to get your “Kaiju” running

Anyway time to, try playing vgc

Love that Keanu asks for my team just to not say shit about it

[bold geode]

Stream it bitch

[molten oasis]

I’m on the bus on my phone no lol

[bold geode]

Bitch

[molten oasis]

I have to start the building process from the start again anyway

I’m not going mausape, as I like amoonguss, so idk

I’m just gambling for wisp to hit again today cuz i do think harc is correct

[bold geode]

Hehehehehe monke

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/1ae6cbd771f58c22 anyone have thoughts for members for this?

I’d like a fighting type, or just some kind of incin check

[torn parrot]

where did mausape go

[molten oasis]

I hate mausape

[torn parrot]

i do too

[molten oasis]

I don’t like playing it and it feels like a cop out of a challenge

[bold geode]

Cuz MausApe is a silly little cop out

[torn parrot]

its a really really easy way to cop out

[molten oasis]

And I’m not doing it lol

A9 feels kinda worthless with mausape, like, just maushold is enough for ape typically

So anyway any thoughts on members?

[mighty stump]

I mean

If you really think its a cop out

Try playing it first

[molten oasis]

bye amoonguss

you’re right, I’ll go try it out

[bold geode]

I did and it sorta feels like a weird cop out
Like it don't steamroll EVERYTHING but it is powerful AF

[torn parrot]

its a really easy glue to apply

not to say it isnt good glue

[molten oasis]

Ik it works

[torn parrot]

yes its annoying that it ought to be there

very annoying

[molten oasis]

Very well rn, it just genuinely feels like “this is what you have to do to make this work”

Which i feel like is a cop out

[torn parrot]

i had incin rillaboom frosmoth and ninetales

i couldnt figure out teh last two mons

looked at james video

and audibly said "god damnit"

i think the reason why its such good glue is because maus is super useful even without ape
And ape just has so many good matchups

[mighty stump]

Meanwhile Clef Balance

I thikn Taunt is just required on Maushold

[bold geode]

Taunt does feel required
Sad thing is if you play MausApe that basically takes your last slot

Can I just say I fucking hate Maushold for a very stupid reason

It's too good of a support mon

In the sense of its fucking movepool

[tiny karma]

Maushold's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Beat Up, Bite, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Dig, Double Hit, Double-Edge, Facade, Feint, Giga Impact, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Play Rough, Population Bomb, Pound, Seed Bomb, Shadow Claw, Super Fang, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Chilling Water, Echoed Voice, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Pulse

Status Moves

After You, Agility, Baby-Doll Eyes, Baton Pass, Charm, Copycat, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Follow Me, Helping Hand, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Switcheroo, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Tidy Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Maushold.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

i had a grudge against it because it made furrret even more obsolete than it already was

)):

[bold geode]

Beat Up, Super Fang, Taunt, Encore, Protect, Follow Me, Helping Hand, even Thunder Wave
I literally want to run like 6 fucking moves on it at all times

[dull ibex]

4 move syndrome

Weegeecee?

[molten oasis]

There’s the dogshit rng again

Just, parahax

Over and over again

[bold geode]

Meanwhile Harc has the fuckin opposite lmao
3 moves and then like the 4th move is never used lol

Also gimme sec and I'll hop in for weegeecee

[dull ibex]

Real

[dull ibex]

Get in here loser

[molten oasis]

Idt I like mausape on this team lol

Mausholds like, fine, it wants 5 moves tho, which sucks

I did try it for a little but I’m just not a fan

[mighty stump]

You basically forego Super Fang and go for a sac

if you want Protect + 2 support moves

[molten oasis]

I don’t really have much of a dozo answer that way

[mighty stump]

Alternatively you run Wide Lens Pop Bomb Friend Guard

[molten oasis]

Like my dozo line is pray lol

Or get it to encore into protect

[dusky bloom]

Have you seen how people are using the hisuian decidueye as a perfect counter for dondozo?

[molten oasis]

still id rather have smth else

[mighty stump]

Perfect is a bit of a stretch lol

[molten oasis]

Deci when Tera flying Tera blast

[torn parrot]

i want what bird does but i dont want the type that bird is

[dusky bloom]

He has leaf blade, his signature move also which give him high crit. He has access to scrappy

And he has haze

[mighty stump]

1/8 chance unboosted, 50/50 at best, Haze makes previous points non-relevant, Scrappy has no bearing on the Dozo MU

[dusky bloom]

Our speeds and I hit kos incineroar, can hit gholdengo with fight move.

The point is that he is viable for multiple purposes

[torn parrot]

well if he has haze then the other things dont really matter

[dusky bloom]

you can run it as shmuck insurance

[molten oasis]

hm

[mighty stump]

Pretty sure there are better mons for insurance, and I don't see how we got from Dondozo to suddenly being multi-purpose

[dusky bloom]

I want to join y’all.. I have a team that I have made

I like him because he counters incineroar and gholdengo as well

[torn parrot]

i think he's cool

[dusky bloom]

Let me battle with yallll

[torn parrot]

no im good i dont wnna lose to bird

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/1ae6cbd771f58c22 what do I need for this team?

[dusky bloom]

Speed control

Maybe a tailwind setter that servers as offense as well

Or maybe an offensive trick room setter

[molten oasis]

Feels like I have dozo, Archa rain, volc gambit (sorta), uhm, talon offense, uhhh

[torn parrot]

i personally think bird is not a fraud

[molten oasis]

genuinely despise having such a need for speed control

[dusky bloom]

Someone join the vc and help me with my team!

Plssss
I have a tournament next week

[molten oasis]

Time for the trusty old scrolling the builder

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[torn parrot]

whats ur teeeeam

[torn parrot]

whats your favorite mons

on this team

[dusky bloom]

Probs archaludon

[molten oasis]

Dengo and a9 is the focus

So those 2 don’t go anywhere

[dusky bloom]

Someone come join the chatt plsss

[molten oasis]

Which, lemme go to that checklist

[torn parrot]

if you switch to tauros things might get easier

[molten oasis]

The mu into hisui ty vanished cuz Tauros explodes

Why is twitter updating rn bruh

I wanted Jeudy’s list of mu’s to consider

anyway the absolute worst mu’s for those 2 are volcarona kingambit clef stuff and hisui typhlosion stuff

Incin also sucks to deal with

[strange fjord]

https://labmaus.net/topteams
you can always see which top teams are being used and if you feel comfortable leading against them in team preview

There's also an option of 4 Pokemon for the team composition in case you wanna to focus on a smaller group of Pokemon to prep for

[torn parrot]

hmmmgh )):

[molten oasis]

Why does labmaus keep auto correcting to random places lol

[mighty stump]

77% on Clef Balance is just gross too

Probably best team right now

[molten oasis]

Lots of Baxtales

[craggy dagger]

[dusky bloom]

What kit are people using on gengar

[molten oasis]

Highest placing comp is basc Bloodmoon amoonguss and incin to round up the team

[torn parrot]

wild

[craggy dagger]

what’s going on in vc :0

[molten oasis]

The thing that’s won has garchomp rilla volc and Tauros

[torn parrot]

oh wild

[craggy dagger]

:0

[bold geode]

Wanna join?

[molten oasis]

Bax Pala rilla also seems to be around

[strange fjord]

if you click on the team, it gives you various OTS to see what gengar runs

[craggy dagger]

sure
i’ve got like
10 minutes to kill before class

[bold geode]

Ah

[craggy dagger]

lmao-

maybe not then

[bold geode]

We open up

Come in Nova

[molten oasis]

Oh no it’s 1 dude on the same team with the pala lol

idk if I like the looks of any of these teams

Maybe Bloodmoon is smth worth trying, idk anymore man

[strange fjord]

you dont have to copy a team, you can play with a few and take what you like about one and another to put together into a new team

Frankenstein a team lol

[craggy dagger]

class time

[molten oasis]

I’ve already been doing that now I just feel stuck

I have a core I think is good

These other 2 slots haven’t felt like they’ve solved anything

[timber falcon]

just lost to AV tatsugiri mirror coat whats happening here

[molten oasis]

i think i just need to think stuff over

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

maybe analyze the core see what holes i need to patch up

[zinc totem]

Cosmic power clef with kommo-o is pain but i manage beat it often

[mighty stump]

not really a relevant combination but sure

[zinc totem]

True but clef balance is very flexible. Which version you think is strongest?

[mighty stump]

Gengar/Volc with Goggles Clef/Cloak Volc variant

[cold nova]

Can anyone explain why so many losers who can’t take a loss and immediately lose connection 📶 😂😂 it’s quite pathetic if u ask me and gives sore loser vibes if u do this then it’s you this post is for 😜

[mighty stump]

Not really a relevant topic

[cold nova]

It’s a simple random multi battle on a kids game grow up folks

It’s quite relevant to me @mighty stump If you can’t handle losing then simply don’t seek a battle an play the game with npc’s duh 🙄

[mighty stump]

Multi-battles isn't really a competitive format either. I'd like to discourage this sort of negativity towards other players lol.

[cold nova]

Sweetheart no one being negative by stating facts @mighty stump ok it’s not competitive but it’s still a battle so what u on about

[mighty stump]

I mean, calling others actions pathetic/sore loser is pretty negative. Irregardless of how they acted, this behaviour isn't much better

And the difference between casuals and actual competitive is significant, so.

[cold nova]

Anyway I said what I said enjoy your day I got what I had to say to a general forum about a platform we all mutually play so bye

[zinc totem]

I see today is that day huh

[mighty stump]

What day

[cold nova]

So what else do you call entering a battle and as you see your team or you are losing wether multi or double battle connection suddenly drops lol 😂

They all going through a tunnel 😂😂😂

[mighty stump]

Nothing, a win.

And you were more likely to play with children if you're playing multis

[bold geode]

Do you genuinely not have anything better to do than complain

[mighty stump]

I really don't see how productive a topic like this is

[cold nova]

Oh well we agree to disagree I said my peace ✌️ do better if what I said struck a nerve then u is who the post is for simple as

[dull ibex]

#competitive_discussion

[zinc totem]

Day certain types come into this chat

[cold nova]

😂😂😂😪

[solid frigate]

what am i even looking at.

[molten oasis]

average comp chat experience

[solid frigate]

like Bro i swear Multi Battles Sucks

[bold geode]

Just ignore it lol

[rustic mountain]

y tf is the gc reg f

[bold geode]

Links are messed up apparently

[rustic mountain]

[thick geyser]

So im doin a arch team and i got 5 but idk if the fish should stay hears the team any replacements or tips

Archaludon (M) @ Assault Vest
EVs: 220 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
Modest Nature

• Body Press
• Flash Cannon
• Electro Shot
• Dragon Pulse

Pelipper @ Focus Sash
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
Modest Nature

• Weather Ball
• Tailwind
• Wide Guard
• Hurricane

Annihilape @ Leftovers
EVs: 180 HP / 36 Atk / 12 Def / 60 SpD / 220 Spe
Ability: Defiant
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
Timid Nature

• Rage Fist
• Drain Punch
• Bulk Up
• Protect

Maushold @ Safety Goggles
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Ability: Friend Guard
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
Timid Nature

• Follow Me
• Taunt
• Protect
• Beat Up

Sinistcha @ Rocky Helmet
EVs: 244 HP / 188 Def / 4 SpA / 60 SpD / 12 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
Bold Nature

• Life Dew
• Matcha Gotcha
• Rage Powder
• Trick Room

Basculegion (M) @ Choice Band
EVs: 220 Atk / 140 Spe
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
Adamant Nature

• Last Respects
• Wave Crash
• Aqua Jet
• Protect
• Matcha Gotcha
• Rage Powder
• Trick Room

Basculegion (M) @ Choice Band
EVs: 220 Atk / 140 Spe
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
Adamant Nature

• Last Respects
• Wave Crash
• Aqua Jet
• Protect

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

everyday i lose hope on humanity

[thick geyser]

Damn was it something i said

[solid frigate]

no like

[molten oasis]

pokepaste please

[thick geyser]

https://pokepast.es/5432f69fb20227a4

Sorry

@molten oasis @solid frigate

[molten oasis]

it looks fine

replacement option would probably be incin

[solid frigate]

yeah it looks standard for Peli archa so its fine

also Basc's EVs-

[thick geyser]

Ah yea i gotta fix those but would palifin be to slow

[molten oasis]

bascu>palafin

[rustic mountain]

i think ppl jumped off the palafin train too soon its very strong but on a arch rain comp? yea basculegion is just better

[mighty stump]

Im making Galvantula

[rustic mountain]

gl

[thick geyser]

https://pokepast.es/fa0ad5dfa118d9f3 ok i fixed my bas

How they look

[rustic mountain]

seems fine

[tiny karma]

Incineroar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Bind, Bite, Blaze Kick, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Covet, Cross Chop, Crunch, Darkest Lariat, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dual Chop, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Heat Crash, Iron Head, Knock Off, Lash Out, Leech Life, Lick, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Outrage, Pay Day, Power Trip, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thrash, Throat Chop, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Blast Burn, Burning Jealousy, Dark Pulse, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Snarl, Snore, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Confide, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Growl, Helping Hand, Leer, Nasty Plot, Parting Shot, Protect, Quash, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Incineroar.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

dont run protect on a band set tho

run like flip turn there

[mighty stump]

-calc 151/1.5

[gentle crag]

Result: 100.666667

[dull ibex]

@solid frigate you around?

[solid frigate]

i mean the VC is full but can you give me some time i might need to have dinner later

[dull ibex]

sorry man take your time

[cold nova]

I agree ☝️

[chrome knot]

@spiral ridge

cardigan + khakis yay nay?

[spiral ridge]

Mmmm

I’m wearing khakis rn and would not want to wear them out of this but sure ig?

What’s the cardigan look like

[chrome knot]

cinnamoroll

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh

[chrome knot]

its cold up here cx

[spiral ridge]

Mmm actually could be cute

Yeah sure khakkis work I suppose :3

[chrome knot]

BWAH

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-蛇喰-夢子-kakegurui-anime-gif-17306696

Have fun looking cute

[rustic mountain]

@bold geode where did u see the links for the gc were messed up

[bold geode]

Victory Road followed up saying that

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

The links go back to last GC

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok

makes a lot more sense tbh

[bold geode]

I mean I wouldn't have minded Reg F honestly

[rustic mountain]

well my main issue is thats not the format we are playing atm

would be pretty disjointed

[bold geode]

So it's a better format than we got rn

[rustic mountain]

i did like reg f a lot

reg h is way overhated

[molten oasis]

I also feel like it’s hated for a reason

I don’t hate the format, I hate the rng it gave me

[forest arrow]

I’m having fun with it tbh

[molten oasis]

that and I’m trying to get a9 to work, and ik I’m close, just, 5 and 6

[rustic mountain]

the games the game the rng is wat u gave urself at the end of the day

[rustic mountain]

wat r u using

[molten oasis]

I didnt chose to miss all my wisps man lol

[rustic mountain]

u chose to run an inaccurate move and rely on it

[molten oasis]

It’s the only option I got tho

I need shifu back man lol

[rustic mountain]

u see wat im saying tho

[molten oasis]

Yea ik ik

I do wish that like, I had a better way to handle gambit

[rustic mountain]

unaware clefable

[molten oasis]

Which has been like, #1 threat to the team, and the current thing is wisping it, and harc had foggy goggles on and misses wisp

[molten oasis]

A9 and clefable?

[rustic mountain]

idk but im thinkin of something that walls standard gambit

[molten oasis]

hm

https://pokepast.es/7f8dbc0dea6bf631 just so yk what i got rn

I need harc for typhlosion stuff, it’s been helpful for psyspam as well, sorta

Mostly for armarouge

[rustic mountain]

what happened to dreigon

[molten oasis]

Tofu was saying that hydrei’s coverage was making things difficult

For kingambit, who I’m already struggling with

[rustic mountain]

fair but cant ur 6th slot help w/ that feel like its generally a pretty strong mon. plus hows gambit hitting u

[molten oasis]

I can go back to hydrei, uh

I mean, I didn’t really think hydrei was bad in the first place

[rustic mountain]

is it breaking the clefable the issue? cuz dreigon typically cant hit that

[molten oasis]

Clef gambit is like

THE thing I can’t handle

[rustic mountain]

its a strong team

[molten oasis]

But I also think if I can get dengo to knock out clefable with MIR then the mu is more doable

Clefable feels like the key piece, next to gambit

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

92+ SpA Life Orb Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Clefable: 198-234 (98 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

I didn’t think that would kill

[rustic mountain]

idk its awkward cuz they cn tera to reist mir or jus protect boost and then ur starin at a +2 gambit

[molten oasis]

So

[solid frigate]

now way Moxie Open a Team Review

[molten oasis]

If they Tera, hydrei can do smth

[dull ibex]

I return

[solid frigate]

no*

[molten oasis]

Cuz hydrei can’t do shit otherwise

[rustic mountain]

tru its jus a matter of how u take trades then

[molten oasis]

Unless I go flash canon

[solid frigate]

might as well that is basically coaching

[molten oasis]

But he says it’s not coaching

Ok I’ll go put hydrei back on

[solid frigate]

the entire thing feels like Coaching lol but ehhh

[molten oasis]

Hi Dillon

[next stump]

I don’t think anyone here needs to reach out to Moxie for $25

[rustic mountain]

coaching is more hands on plus 25 seems like an overpay

[next stump]

and I really like him as a person

you’ll get the same, or better, advice from this chat

also hello 🙂

[molten oasis]

It seems like too much and torrent I’m not THAT bad man

[rustic mountain]

hey dillon how u been liking reg h

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna keep LORB on dengo

[chrome knot]

please dont

[rustic mountain]

lorb dengo seems good

[solid frigate]

Drago did i mention that you need it-

[molten oasis]

I think dengo having the immediate damage option has been so helpful

[chrome knot]

for $25 you can be actually coached by top players

[molten oasis]

Might as well have

[rustic mountain]

yea p much

[molten oasis]

Hm

Cloak or av hydrei maybe

[solid frigate]

If you say it then whatever

But honestly,Why Moxie does that when he’s results are rarely day 2

[molten oasis]

He wants to help out and he has a big following

[solid frigate]

fair

[rustic mountain]

its his job now

[molten oasis]

And money, yea

[solid frigate]

Probably

[molten oasis]

Hm, av or cloak hydrei

[solid frigate]

AV Hydrei?

[molten oasis]

Snarl spam pretty much

[rustic mountain]

av seems meh

[solid frigate]

i mean Support Hydrei does not sound too bad

[molten oasis]

I had a cloak hydrei lemme see if I can find it

[rustic mountain]

u need more pro active mons in ur other slots

av hydreigon isnt really that

[molten oasis]

So, cloak? Or like, specs even

[solid frigate]

cloak sounds good

[next stump]

good 🙂 I need to play more but I enjoy it. Would be 10/10 if Archaludon didn’t exist

[molten oasis]

idt I want specs, protect feels really valuable on the team

Lmfao real

Would you say arch is like, unhealthy?

[solid frigate]

I kinda hate playing as Peli Archa rn

Reg F Peli Archa is not as Obnoxious than this cuz of common removers are fucking gone

[molten oasis]

I miss urshifu

[solid frigate]

Tornshifu man

I kinda miss it

[next stump]

I think Archaludon really abuses tera and it’s annoying to deal with

[rustic mountain]

yea that mon is annoying

[next stump]

in future formats/years being able to pin it with close combat or ground moves will make it easy to deal with

[rustic mountain]

agreed

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/960679290f2ba737 found it

[solid frigate]

its just reg H that Urshifu and other common removers are gone making it more obnoxious than in reg F

[molten oasis]

now what

Yea ground/fighting coverage just isn’t that common, more so ground

[bold geode]

More known + has a following and shit
Imo it feels kinda not right

[molten oasis]

Cuz Tauros/ape exist

[solid frigate]

BM ursa Exists but that is weak to Peli Archa in someway

So yeah

[molten oasis]

And I’ve seen a lot less Bloodmoon that I thought

[rustic mountain]

i think the lack of consistent checks like urshifu and lando i lets things like arch run a bit rampant. its jus a combo of factors that make its place in the meta overly centralizing

[solid frigate]

not that much Dozogiri in my ladder climb as well

[rustic mountain]

fighting is decently common but yea ground not so much

[molten oasis]

Like I thought that guy was gonna be #1 must have check

[rustic mountain]

bloodmon is strong but was overhyped

[molten oasis]

Yea it really was

[rustic mountain]

i think dengo is just the best mon rn even w/ arch being what it is

[molten oasis]

I love dengo

[solid frigate]

isn't like the only Ground types that are meta are 2 Bears and a Land Shark

[molten oasis]

Consistent, diverse, great typing

[bold geode]

I mean Arch being strong was kinda obvious but like BM Farig I just think people were more worried about due to the fact it's been around pretty consistently

[molten oasis]

Yea

[rustic mountain]

giraffe got a lot worse

[molten oasis]

Giraffe’s like, thing was stopping prio

[rustic mountain]

still a decent mon but it doesnt enable enough cause things arent as strong

[bold geode]

I think giraffe still good

[molten oasis]

There’s so much less prio moves running around

[solid frigate]

i did not expect it dropped a bit but it still good

[molten oasis]

And it’s like, best friend is Bloodmoon and idt anything else really, maybe pult or typhlosion

[rustic mountain]

its solid

[molten oasis]

It’s fine tho

[rustic mountain]

good i think is giving it too much credit

[solid frigate]

and even then Typhlosion like to have Fari with it

[molten oasis]

I think Fari will be in a similar position as Clefairy, where it gets better the stronger the mons are

[rustic mountain]

thats exactly it

[bold geode]

Eh there's still good archetypes with it + Psychic Noise Farigiraf just walls Ape so

[solid frigate]

i love Psychic Noise Man

[molten oasis]

If maushold doesn’t stop it first

[solid frigate]

its such a Handy Move to have

Whimsicott exists

but then again

[rustic mountain]

i used giraffe quite a bit this format, its just not as good as it has been. doesnt mean u cant use it

[solid frigate]

thats just me

[molten oasis]

There’s lots of usable things in the format

There’s just things that are a bit too strong in the format, thx arch

[solid frigate]

Whims Stonks are rising

[molten oasis]

Eh

[solid frigate]

fuck you Murkrow

[rustic mountain]

whims is the best prankster tw setter

[molten oasis]

I’ve seen a lot more talonflame

Than whimsi unless it’s on typhlosion stuff

[solid frigate]

its either whims or Talon

[molten oasis]

Although every team seems to be tailwind then nuke shit

Or mausape/Archaludon

[rustic mountain]

i think for talon its tough cuz u generally want other fire types on ur team. ive seen whims teams w/ rilla or shroom on them

[molten oasis]

Yea that’s fair

[rustic mountain]

or ppl jus dont double up on the grass

[bold geode]

Honestly I realized yesterday that I was semi right on this being a bullshit format lol

[rustic mountain]

talons still good

[molten oasis]

Guess what? You’re stuck in it for 4 months

although I think the meta will be more interesting the further along we get

[solid frigate]

lets just hope that GC is correct about Reg F

Cuz get me out of this Reg H nightmare

[forest arrow]

Sorry I was at work, I’ve been playing with everything

So far Volc Balance has felt the best, I really enjoyed Typhlo stuff too tho

[molten oasis]

Bet you haven’t played with a9

(Don’t it’s genuinely in such a weird spot)

[forest arrow]

bc she isn’t it

😅

[molten oasis]

When will she

[forest arrow]

Idk cause trust I love a9 as much as you do

But she’s just not the best

[molten oasis]

I’ll live, I like dengo balance, a9 happens to be pretty decent with it

Mostly getting weather control to slow down arch from snowballing is nice

And encore locking is nice

however I’m not gonna argue it’s just not that good of a Mon

[forest arrow]

Yeah whims does that but better with prankster, but I know what you mean bro I’m not knocking you for using her

[molten oasis]

In this format

[forest arrow]

I just don’t think she’s good :/

Rn****

[molten oasis]

I’m trying, I typically want some kind of niche thing on a team

That’s just what I’ve picked out for now

[bold geode]

Well I mean like I said before "you can run some bs now" and its sorta true cuz people used to shoot you down quick for wanting to use Triple Arrows or Dire Claw

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/6a38e251cb6ecb22 I need a 6th lol

[solid frigate]

its kinda BS now that you can run BS stuff but still die

[molten oasis]

Probably smth with fighting coverage, for gambit

[forest arrow]

Everyone plays differently. So if you feel a9 is okay rn then use her, but from my perspective, I’m not going to even look at her rn

[molten oasis]

I’m confident I can handle ttar with Amoonguss and dengo

[bold geode]

I mean deadass like you know it's a bit wild when mfers are genuinely talking about Delphox lol

[molten oasis]

lol

alright scrolling the builder time

[bold geode]

And then they'd also laugh at your gimmick usin ass before with Hisuian Zoroark but look at that mfer now

[forest arrow]

Delphox shit was honestly ok

So A9 shouldn’t be terrible

[bold geode]

Hisuian Zoroark is actually fucking valid and that pisses me off

Rotom stfu

[forest arrow]

Anger point Tauros was taking heads left and right

[molten oasis]

Well actually what have I not covered mu wise

https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1831353278858199043?t=JdFLKvNKi_hIhf2mJA4e4g&s=19

Jeudy ➡️ Baltimore🐦‍⬛ (@SoulSurVGC) on X

Regulation H is super wide and there's a lot to cover. This is my current meta checklist going into Baltimore.

After meetings/coaching will stream to update my tier list and talk about this more. if a team isn't on this 👍🏽

Twitter · Sep 4, 2024, 3:27 PM

[forest arrow]

but i don’t like my main team being a gimmick, i just like playing everything

But so far Clef balance has felt the best

[molten oasis]

Volc is doable with harc, dengo a9 amoonguss for rain, amoonguss for dozo, harc for sunny day shit, mausape, uhhhh

[forest arrow]

Mausape, is just destroy the Maus

[molten oasis]

weezing Pala should be fine same with sand balance, p2 Ursa is fine, kommo-o is fine

[molten oasis]

I can’t beat maushold before beat up

[forest arrow]

That’s why clef bal is so good, clef says let me eat that beat up while my other pokemon sets up

[molten oasis]

:/

Clef balance probably best archetype rn next to peli Archa

[forest arrow]

Baxtales was my first team in reg h and it’s the one that has done the worst sadly

[molten oasis]

Snow archetype is trash

I’m not even gonna argue that one lol

A9 by itself feels fine

[forest arrow]

Yeah screens in one turn instead of two is good

[molten oasis]

Snow felt better in restricted lmao

[forest arrow]

Just have to pull it off

[molten oasis]

yea, uhm

hm, what do I add

[forest arrow]

I’m still trying to make a good Ttar team but I suck when it comes to building stuff. I can pilot things fine tho

[molten oasis]

Ttar chomp seems decent rn

[forest arrow]

I did get to 1600 with it but felt like an uphill battle sometimes like maybe some of choices could be better

https://pokepast.es/a073225bd61a0c56

[molten oasis]

That looks good

[forest arrow]

This is my last draft

[bold geode]

Yeah I mean I'm not shitting on gimmicks rn but like
In terms of things you'd see in the meta consistently

[forest arrow]

I prob just need to learn the team better and keep playing with it

[forest arrow]

Yeah for sure bro

[bold geode]

Like if Hisuian Zoroark made a stream appearance during Reg H, I would not be surprised

[molten oasis]

Me; I love consistency in teams
Also me: runs harc

[bold geode]

Like Moxie said
Now it can actually be carried by it's fucking stats

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 571: Zoroark-Hisui

Types

Normal/Ghost

Abilities

Illusion

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/100/60/125/60/110

Total

510

Base Species

Zoroark

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Fast guy

[bold geode]

125 base Spatk and 110 base speed rn? Not bad at all

[forest arrow]

Holy crap I didn’t know it was that frail

[molten oasis]

POV: grass glide

[forest arrow]

The speed, spa and ability justify it

but like damn it’s frail asf

That’s like baby pokemon type of frail

[bold geode]

I mean it's used more on Psyspam rn iirc

So a team where you already have to respect quite a few leads gets another dimension and mind game added cuz even if you get the lead "right", you still have to play the game of "is it Armadee or is it Specs Tera Normal Helping Hand Hyper Voice"

[forest arrow]

Yeah and even in OTS still hard to read

[molten oasis]

Maybe a steel resist

[forest arrow]

gengar

I’m joking lol

[bold geode]

Yeah you're basically just like
Never sure if you're in a good position or not

[molten oasis]

Was gonna say what is Gengar doing here lol

[bold geode]

Sir what does Gengar resist

[chrome knot]

i dont get what this team accomplishes

[forest arrow]

Nothing lol I just said it cause poison 🤣

[bold geode]

Oh lol

[molten oasis]

It’s funny you think I’m accomplishing anything

[forest arrow]

I was joking

[chrome knot]

ok

[molten oasis]

You’re not gonna help so why bother

[bold geode]

Bro's failing

[molten oasis]

Alr

[bold geode]

Anyways I honestly don't know what to add
My balance ass says a Water type but like not much there really

[molten oasis]

What does the team accomplish? Getting a9 to feel decent.

Because genuinely I do not want to do anything else in this format rn

[bold geode]

Basculegion means Kingambit probably eats your shit
Palafin is eh
Gyarados or Tauros has double Intimidate, not good at all rn

[molten oasis]

I do technically have the support for palafin

maybe I should just drop it at this point

However if I do drop it I’m not gonna know what to play

So idk anymore

There’s no anti meta I’ve looked at and wanted to pursue

And I’m not really to into anything within the meta per usual

[forest arrow]

Out of all the archetypes there is nothing you like?

There’s tons of them

[molten oasis]

as you know, I don’t play the stuff that’s on top much, I don’t find it fun and I hate fighting mirrors

So I don’t really play volc balance or archapeli (not that I’ve liked Archa peli)

Sand is fine I just feel like it’s too weak to peli Archa and dozo

And I wouldn’t pilot that well

Most of the dengo stuff is HO, I don’t really play HO

like genuinely the only thing I’ve found fun so far is dengo balance

And there’s usually components of the dengo balance teams I see that I dont like or understand how to pilot

I like having different tools than the opponent, that’s what I enjoy doing

And I mean different tools than MOST people, cuz ik you can run meta stuff just fine, I dont enjoy mirrors, which happen more often with meta

I’m not a smart person for playing this way, I also get bored of playing the meta very quickly

[bold geode]

https://x.com/adisubra/status/1831506133661503855?t=Mm_sYBrimxjGA_9mXcElnQ&s=19
Quit cookin Adi

Adi Subramanian (@adisubra) on X

mfw I have to decide which body press mon to use

Twitter · Sep 5, 2024, 1:34 AM

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna disappear for a bit

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[bold geode]

No

Come back

[forest arrow]

I mean don’t let one comment from somebody discourage you

Who cares what she thinks fr

[spiral ridge]

wide guard was quite lovely

especially all the times i wide guarded when they FO me thinking i was gonna attack 😭

[molten oasis]

It’s the fact nobody including myself knows what to do with the team which is just a bad sign

Idt tofu even knows what to do with it

And that

And tbf if the team accomplishes nothing what’s the point

So I’m just not gonna touch it, unless I think of something that could work, or I see something else I’d like to explore which hasn’t fucking happened yet

Technically the goal was to get a9 to not feel horrible I technically did accomplish that

[bold geode]

Tbf idk many at least around our general friend group knows what to do either

[molten oasis]

Ik

[bold geode]

That's why I've sorta been trying to test shit a bit but still like wait until Baltimore to further go into stuff

[molten oasis]

Baltimore isn’t gonna give me an answer on a9

And as much as I hate doing this I think I just give up

Try to find something else

[bold geode]

I mean it might not give you an answer on A9 but it might at least give general inspiration

Ideas can sometimes tend to string together
Sometimes you kinda just gotta let shit flow lol

[molten oasis]

Maybe idk

At least with zacian I knew what mons worked with it

[merry summit]

im playing comp

[bold geode]

Zacian was a little different tbh
It was your single restricted and the thing you like built around
It's a little harder to build around a support Mon than something like Zacian who goes more on the offense

[bold geode]

What running

[merry summit]

random battles

[molten oasis]

Well, same went for Primarina but yea that’s a fair point

I’ll give it a shot with palafin

If that doesn’t work I’ll drop it

[dull ibex]

honestly

116 adamant rilla feels better

[torn parrot]

NEW ONE PIECE CHAPTER

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/7e05b1ddd830788e

[modern harbor]

hiiiii

is the destiny (birthday) mark only on wild pokemon? or can it be on eggs too?

[spiral ridge]

looked it up and doesnt seem so :(

i mean its 1 in 25 so could just get some eggs and test

[tranquil kraken]

only on wild encounters!

[spiral ridge]

theres the double verification cheers love

[tranquil kraken]

o7

[chrome knot]

turn back

[molten oasis]

This look ok?

[merry summit]

wtf

[chrome knot]

LEAH MY BOX CAME IN

WANNA SEEEEEE

[merry summit]

ye ofc

[merry summit]

omgh its dumb seal

lurantis....

[chrome knot]

sphealllll hehee

[spiral ridge]

:0

[balmy glen]

Reg f gaming for GC is so funny

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger where are u stinky :(

[forest arrow]

Did someone say bolt balance? lol

[solid frigate]

I'll take it honestly

[spiral ridge]

class :(

[foggy lodge]

Its confirmed that it will be reg F or they just messed up?

[next stump]

Whipping out Farigarif on my team for the 7th regulation in a row

[bold geode]

Was it confirmed? Saw Victory Road saying

It's been updated y'all
It's Reg H

You check the site now, it shows like Urshifu and shit to be illegal

[balmy glen]

messed up

[solid frigate]

F

i misss Reg F

[torn parrot]

@molten oasis how’s the team going

[molten oasis]

It’s fine but I’m about ready to give up

[dull ibex]

@bold geode

[bold geode]

Fuck

[pallid hare]

ah, yes, a fellow scatman enthusiast

https://tenor.com/view/scatman-dance-scatman-john-music-moves-gif-16310900

[dull ibex]

🧌