#competitive_discussion

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zinc totem
mighty stump
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@chrome knot I lost

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I threw a lead cause I made an overly unnecessary play

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I'm frustrated

dull ibex
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Hi

zinc totem
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what are good haze users that are not water type (like palafin) or hazekrow Hmmge

dull ibex
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What do u have against haze krow

zinc totem
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so i cant use hazekrow KEKWDISCO

mighty stump
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Overqwil, Decidueye-Hisui, Gengar.

zinc totem
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i really wanna avoid tripling into water types haha

dull ibex
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Your entire team doesn't need to abuse rain BTW

zinc totem
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and overqwil solvers both problems with it: tera grass and haze resets stats

dull ibex
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Gengar seems great at that

zinc totem
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i also could go intimidate overqwil instead of going swift swim

dull ibex
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BTW personal preference but I really dislike non prior tw

chrome knot
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ik im not one to talk bc how i reacted to my worlds friendly but

zinc totem
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but beacuse im using water type attacker, pelipper is only option to help boost its damage

mighty stump
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Playoffs man

bold geode
zinc totem
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@mighty stump what you recommend as haze option if person already got 2 water types (pelipper and water type attacker) im asking out of curiousity

mighty stump
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Rain can just use Overqwil.

zinc totem
mighty stump
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Pretty much.

zinc totem
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or is intimidate argueable better on it?

bold geode
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Hi son I'm back with the milk

dull ibex
bold geode
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No, I'm the milkman KekCry

zinc totem
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Overqwil @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Barb Barrage
  • Haze
  • Crunch
  • Protect

Hmmge

dull ibex
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Milkman? What is this the 50s

bold geode
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No you a milkman baby KekHands

foggy lodge
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Showdown deleted the reg ladder lol

zinc totem
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Also im almost 1400 again with current team im testing

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cuz i cant decide if i should go hazetic, hazeqwil or just risk losing dozo teams with inci Hmmge

timber falcon
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it hurts so bad man

bold geode
zealous falcon
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why is dragapult best built with SPA. if it has better attack and dragon darts?

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is it even best built as spa? thats just me assuming bc all the top smogon builds built it for spa

bold geode
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Singles or doubles?

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Probably singles cuz Smogon but still safe to ask anyways

timber falcon
zealous falcon
bold geode
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I honestly don't know for singles, I don't really play, sorry about that

zealous falcon
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no worries! tyy

dull ibex
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I miss the 2d games

knotty mirage
foggy lodge
knotty mirage
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I don't really remember the EV on my in game team that's just closest thing i can remember it to be it prolly different

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Anything else other than EV that i might need to change ?

empty turtle
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any suggestions for mons for reg H

calm gulch
zinc totem
dull ibex
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the wheel decided we are making it to masterball with hyper offense

molten oasis
dull ibex
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@molten oasis

chrome knot
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why was there only 2 options

dull ibex
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what else is there

bold geode
# dull ibex

I was really hoping that balance would've just been like a tiny fucking sliver KekCry

molten oasis
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Also you could have also put psyspam or Archa rain on there or gambit clef balance

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More specific types of teams

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Also thanks annihilape for the +2 to sweep your team Kermitlaugh

molten oasis
chrome knot
dull ibex
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trick room is different enough I will consider it

chrome knot
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its its own archetype lol

dull ibex
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can it run turbo bear because im not getting enough bloodmoon arkeknine

chrome knot
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i dont use bm ursa so idk

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probably

dull ibex
dull ibex
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its alot of what I play since reg C

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I have not really been a ho main since reg b

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I learned balance can be played fast and its been joever

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ok ill fix my wheel

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to make it sun HO and clef balance

molten oasis
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You’ve been playing hyper offense the last couple weeks

dull ibex
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tr is a bit too hard for me

dull ibex
dull ibex
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it sure is

molten oasis
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And it’s worth it imo

dull ibex
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consider I DONT OWN THE DLC

molten oasis
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Fair enough

molten oasis
dull ibex
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oh also genuinely even jokingly stop making comments about it, its getting on my nerves

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im broke, I want games I dont need 95 dollars on pokemon alone

molten oasis
bold geode
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Psyspam can probably actually be called HO in like simple terms
Considering there you also kinda set up speed control then sweep so like
Kinda?

dull ibex
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trick room is like hyper offense but alot more skill based

bold geode
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It is Trick Room stuff but it's probably like a mix if anything

dull ibex
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and even more aggressive

molten oasis
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sure, ig

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Idk I don’t play psyspam

bold geode
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Honestly it's a weird fucking area

molten oasis
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Set up balance for life thumbsup

dull ibex
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I think psyspam can be played without tr maybe?

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ive seen fast psyspam once or twice iirc

bold geode
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I mean the way it can play is sorta similar to HO though

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Set up speed control
Then big damage

dull ibex
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here you go monke and drago

bold geode
dull ibex
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im willing to add 2 2 2 to my teams

bold geode
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I think there might already deadass be a rental for Ttar Lycanroc 2-2-2 with Armadee and Dongiri

bold geode
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Work

dull ibex
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imagine working on sunday

bold geode
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That's every week for me

dull ibex
bold geode
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I literally got hired on cuz I could work weekends

dull ibex
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pog emploements

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time to my old ass reg b dozo core arkeknine

bold geode
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Red I can tell you don't work seeing as you can't spell employment KekCry

dull ibex
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bro thinks ive never had a job

molten oasis
dull ibex
bold geode
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Drago he's a little special DW bout it

molten oasis
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So are you

dull ibex
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coming with the guy who can't make volc work?

bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
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Are you having a stroke bud?

dull ibex
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what are you guys talking about?

bold geode
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Oh Volc is ass thats why

molten oasis
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I wonder why it says (edited) next to that

dull ibex
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oh! i forgot the question mark

bold geode
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Bro ate 71 lbs of rocks and died

molten oasis
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Volc’s coverage is the issue

dull ibex
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volcarona is genuinely great

molten oasis
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I think it’s fine otherwise but there’s a lot of dragons and uh, volc wants to run fire and grass coverage rn

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And rain makes its life miserable

bold geode
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Nah the issue is that Volc just sucks into rain and like gets walled by Sun shit too lmao

molten oasis
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Armarouge sucks for it

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Doesn’t like seeing harc at all

dull ibex
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thats what the rest of the team is for 🤣

bold geode
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Like it gets boosted Heat Waves but that's still a resist there

molten oasis
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Alright go use spidops

dull ibex
bold geode
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Ngl rn Volc seems exploitable AF

dull ibex
molten oasis
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CLEARLY if you just build around the Mon it’ll work perfectly

dull ibex
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drago forget ill take that seriously and do it

bold geode
dull ibex
molten oasis
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Yea clefable is a big help for it

bold geode
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Cuz Clef balance is like an actual clean team lol

dull ibex
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I need to get tofu's help fighting sun

molten oasis
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however I’m playing a9 where clefable would be so

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Sucks to suck ig

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(The a9 is doing a good job)

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Team supports dengo very well

dull ibex
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ive lost both of my reg h games

molten oasis
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Which is what I’m focusing on this reg

bold geode
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Feel like Clef balance covers for MUs decently although Psyspam and Sun iirc are rough for the OG version

molten oasis
bold geode
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With Gengar or whatever version has Gengar

molten oasis
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Ah

dull ibex
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is there a new version? sun demolishes me

molten oasis
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Typhlosion sun/torkoal sun or just sun in general

dull ibex
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yes.

molten oasis
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Ok

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Could replace the ghost

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For like, uh

dull ibex
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the ghost is important to this version

molten oasis
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that makes things difficult

bold geode
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Idk how many people are running Pult with it but that looks solid

molten oasis
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Tera fire high horsepower rillaboom is an option

molten oasis
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Pult seems good for Typhlosion kinda

dull ibex
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but you triple up on being weak to fairy

molten oasis
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That’s ok

bold geode
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Pult can do big damage, it's just a bit of tera hog rn cuz Kingambit is popular

dull ibex
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NO it is not lmao

molten oasis
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Yes it is dude

bold geode
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Not many Fairies tbh rn

dull ibex
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mf I PLAYED IT

molten oasis
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Having 3 weaknesses to something is fine

dull ibex
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im not talking about out of my ass

molten oasis
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ok gimme the team

dull ibex
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its literally that team but with pult banded

molten oasis
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I’ll go throw it at the ladder with pult and see how it feels, I think pult helps with typhlosion

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Or you can do high horse on rilla

dull ibex
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uturn good.

molten oasis
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It’s that or have an abysmal mu to sun

dull ibex
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no its not lmao

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ill figure out what i do into sun

molten oasis
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Then why are you complaining about it just play better thumbsup

dull ibex
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im allowed to complain man

molten oasis
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ok

dull ibex
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ive considered these options and used them

molten oasis
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ok

dull ibex
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feel free to mess with movesets and teras 🙂

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electric clef has a niche I liked so I kept it

molten oasis
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Ok

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I’ll see how this feels

dull ibex
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good luck I hope pult works for you

molten oasis
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Oh you got the Tera dragon volc sauce

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Neat

dull ibex
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its not tera blast in game

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maybe it should be?

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giga drain seemed important so i kept it

solid frigate
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i become Red's Tera Shard Storage lol

molten oasis
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Better coverage or recovery your choice

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Which one? I’d like to be as accurate as possible to whatever you have ingame

dull ibex
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alright let me redo it then

molten oasis
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Ok

bold geode
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I kinda like U Turn Rilla a tiny bit more rn
Just due to the fact that Rilla kinda just goated rn

molten oasis
dull ibex
molten oasis
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Ty

bold geode
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I think Rilla probably best Mon of format no cap

solid frigate
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i could see and agree with

dull ibex
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if you end up not liking pult I told you so

molten oasis
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I think it’s dengo, personally

dull ibex
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typh has a really good time this rteg

bold geode
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Rilla just honestly has felt super slappable so far

molten oasis
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I feel that way with dengo and Tauros, but I agree rilla can kinda go anywhere

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Except psyspam, I think

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I’ve seen WAY MORE rilla than incin too

solid frigate
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yep

bold geode
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It honestly does kinda feel like Incin slappable rn

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Like when you could slap Incin on basically anything before? Kinda feels same way about Rilla rn, it's value is just amazing rn

nocturne holly
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are y’all feeling high horsepower or u turn on rilla

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I think I’ve switched to hh

dull ibex
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their ttar has big all of my friends are dead syndrome rn

molten oasis
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For last reg I felt the same way

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Rillas so easy to put on a team it’s nice

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There’s more fire types to consider for a team than grass usually

bold geode
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Well like honestly so far this gen maybe hot take, this is probably the best Rilla has been
Like genuinely so far this Reg every team I analyze that has Rilla on it I never have anything bad to say about Rilla
Like basically every one is Rilla is just Rilla cuz there's just no critiques

molten oasis
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Rilla has good damage and utility

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Bulky, great ability, he’s just the perfect guy

solid frigate
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sure the SPD is bad but We have AV

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Tapu Bulu Crying in the corner be like

bold geode
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I mean I've also seen Miracle Seed put in work too so like it's just pretty versatile rn, which it was before but more now, and it kinda has a decent MU into quite a bit of the meta too so

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You mess with Psyspam's tempo with the terrain, Dozo you resist Crash and weaken EQ with terrain, SE into BloodMoon and only really get OHKO'd from Tera Normal BloodMoon, you basically shit on Palafin and Primarina, and just have good stuff for other things too so

dull ibex
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any update on pult?

whole ibex
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I have a shiny 0 speed teddy and I was wondering if I transfer back to PLA would it reset the ivs and lose the 0 speed?

dull ibex
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legends arceus doesnt use evs and ivs iirc

whole ibex
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Ok so I should be fine?

bold geode
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Should be fine

dull ibex
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alos the ivs either way are permenant unless hyper trained

torn parrot
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Max speed sturdy tera electric archaludon might be him

whole ibex
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Thanks everyone

dull ibex
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good luck 🫡

zinc totem
whole ibex
# dull ibex good luck 🫡

Also, I know transfer Pokémon get the strange ball. My teddy has the moon ball so if I transfer it to PLA, would it permanently be a strange even if I transfer it back to S/V?

dull ibex
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I don't think so but I'm not fully sure

knotty mirage
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I wonder is it just me or i see less incin in this reg

chrome knot
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nothing abt the pokemon changes!!!!

whole ibex
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Ok so the moon ball stays? Nice to know

chrome knot
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i have a love ball the once careless h-lilligant

bold geode
chrome knot
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look how cute the description is

molten oasis
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I’ve been cooked by a garganacl glimmora, yippee

zinc totem
chrome knot
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oras

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on thursday

pallid hare
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or BDSP

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or DPPt

chrome knot
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on a petilil?

pallid hare
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oh, never mind then

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but yeah, ORAS is the only way to get it on a Petlil

chrome knot
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im general ur right

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for my specific mon noooo :3

merry anvil
modern harbor
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hiii emma i saw ur message

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i been wanting to use something a little more out of the ordinary to surprise people on cart since it's closed team sheet

golden cliff
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Hi guys, Is the fastwst way to build a Pokemon Just buyin EVs drinks and gettin tera shards from the item generator thingy?

torn parrot
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Guys

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I think porygon z is strong

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Insanely strong

solid frigate
cerulean rose
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Hi, anyone here up for a 2v2? We need 2 more people

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@me if your interested

molten oasis
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@dull ibex pult feels fine

dull ibex
nocturne holly
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what are some good teammates for ttar

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Ttar works in tr right
Thinking of ttar blursa fari as a start

molten oasis
nocturne holly
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Moreso ttar benefits from tr

molten oasis
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ig

bold geode
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So I didn't mention this, but the Bloodmoon set I mentioned was actually on a fun take of Rajan's Indy team with if I gathered it right Specs Kilowattrell

molten oasis
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Ik this isn’t the place but would anyone wanna shiny hunt with me today, if you have scarlet? I want a marked hydreigon and alolan ninetales, ofc I’ll return the favor

woven hinge
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would maushold using population bomb + wide lens be good competitively?

molten oasis
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You can use it sure

woven hinge
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i use it as an opening when im just playing through the game and not actually playing competitive

molten oasis
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If you go Tera normal+technician it can be a really annoying thing to deal with

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Although typically supportive maushold is better

woven hinge
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yeah i was kinda thinking that

molten oasis
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@main lodge don’t send messages in rental teams plz

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If you have questions ask here

molten oasis
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But it’s not bad

woven hinge
main lodge
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Hello so iam new here and i hade a question so if someon could be so nice and make me a team you can be very creatfull but just three pokemon must be pls in ther at first Metagross the second would be chansey or Blissey and thrid would be suelor . I already happy anout your anwsers and yeah thank you all 👋🦖🦕

woven hinge
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my team that im using right now for my normal playthrough is maushold, dragonite (sometimes garchomp instead), Kilowattrel, Raichu, gengar, and dondozo

molten oasis
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Everytime I ask I get NOTHING

kindred cypress
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Ask nicely

molten oasis
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N-O-T-H-I-N-G

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I HAVE

kindred cypress
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Then just buy scarlet smh

molten oasis
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I’m not blowing $60 bruh

kindred cypress
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Buy physical beat it and shiny hunt in 1 day then return

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Simple

hard swift
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So i was building this team for reg h and I wanted feedback on anything i might want to change about movesets or stats as well as if i might just want to swap out some pokemon completely https://pokepast.es/24cef684e8bf9799

molten oasis
chrome knot
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@tranquil kraken can u delete msg in rental chat

tranquil kraken
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@main lodge Please don't send messages other than rental teams in that channel 🙏

molten oasis
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In fact I’d be spending $90 to shiny hunt ninetales, yea that’s not worth it AT ALL

dense latch
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drop lorb on gholdengo and swap it for metal coat or leftovers, or even a choice item

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idk how well bloodmoon fits in this team when there's no trick room or tw mode anyways

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i would also run parting shot instead of flare blitz on incin

molten oasis
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Eh

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Av is valid here imo

dense latch
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only having one pokemon with protect isn't exactly ideal

molten oasis
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Dengo has protect no?

dense latch
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not rn

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that's also a change

molten oasis
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Oh wtf

dense latch
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tera grass on gholdengo is also pretty weird

molten oasis
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I mean, you can get by with 2 protect but yea that dengo needs protect over gleam

dense latch
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you don't cancel out any of your weaknesses

molten oasis
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Tera dragon or fairy on dengo

dense latch
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and the EV spreads could also be better

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but that's a much less important problem

molten oasis
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Sitrus Rotom would be better or replacing it with Tauros aqua

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Moonblast on a9 is required

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You need parting shot on incin

chrome knot
dense latch
dull ibex
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nasty plot and no protect???

molten oasis
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NP+LORB opens up immediate damage capabilities and you can maximize more on bulk

dense latch
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i would probably drop ursaluna

chrome knot
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not rly every lorb dengo ive had was near max max lmfao

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just blow shit up

dull ibex
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max max is good on set up dengo?

molten oasis
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mm, I’ve seen bulkier ones, but that also makes plenty of sense

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I like the bulk, yea dengo has good natural bulk

chrome knot
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also literally what are any of these spreads very wasteful

molten oasis
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With TW support you can just nuke shit

dull ibex
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speaking of wasteful spreads my bulky dengo is a bad spread I think

chrome knot
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if you don’t know what to calc for just 252/252 until you find things you want to achieve

molten oasis
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Why? What’s the spread?

dull ibex
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Gholdengo @ Leftovers
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 60 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Nasty Plot
  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
  • Protect
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it speed ties max pelipper maximizes special attack

molten oasis
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What is the 60 HP for?

dull ibex
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dump

molten oasis
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Just go max speed at that point then

dull ibex
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thats what tofu said

chrome knot
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so why not 252/252 lmao

dull ibex
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I dont remember tbh

molten oasis
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Idt it’s enough leftover to warrant that kind of spread

dull ibex
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I can go max max now tbh

bold geode
molten oasis
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If you have like, 150ish

dull ibex
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I totally agree btw

molten oasis
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I think it’s fine, but less than that eh

dull ibex
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like I said im p sure this is a useless spread

molten oasis
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Just go max max

bold geode
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It looks rough yeah

molten oasis
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No harm in it

dull ibex
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I have max spa and max speed on my shiny

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ill be using that more regardless

molten oasis
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Just use that then perfect

bold geode
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You also don't really need to go max spatk on N Plot Dengo since you're really going for those Plots, but yeah I guess max max works

molten oasis
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According to Emma nasty plot LORB dengo’s are max max

bold geode
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No?

molten oasis
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Which I at least haven’t heard about but I don’t talk to people about spreads, I just use what works for me oldmanshrug

bold geode
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I've never seen a max max N Plot Dengo period

chrome knot
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mine were bc i had nothing to calc for if they all died GiggleHehe

molten oasis
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POV: red

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Bruh lmao

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Like that’s fair, I think adding bulk is helpful

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But if you don’t know what it needs to live there’s like, 0 point

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I like living sucker from gambit, non boosted

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you live it with minimal bulk bruh

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252+ Atk Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 140-168 (83.8 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

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Incin knock off/blitz there ya go

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0 Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 204 HP / 0 Def Gholdengo: 158-188 (84 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

solid frigate
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kek

molten oasis
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I feel like an idiot lol

bold geode
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Wait why your bitch ass so bulky with Dengo then

molten oasis
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Monke I have a veil setter

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Why would I not play bulky dengo

bold geode
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Because Veil helps it already 🤷‍♂️

molten oasis
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More bulk=more serviceability

dull ibex
molten oasis
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AUTO CORRECT WHYY

bold geode
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You're using Veil to help it live the things it doesn't without Veil

molten oasis
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more SURVIVABILITY

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and I don’t bring a9 every game

dull ibex
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im with drago here

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there is nothing wrong with bulky dengo

molten oasis
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Monke WE were playing bulky LORB dengo for a bit

bold geode
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I mean yeah that's just another option

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Hey bitch you gave me the spreads

molten oasis
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I’m pretty sure tofu plays the same kind of dengo

mighty stump
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I what

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
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Do you not play bulkier on LORB NP dengo?

chrome knot
molten oasis
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I thought I remembered seeing a set like that

dull ibex
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I think its notes time btw

molten oasis
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ig not my bad

dull ibex
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for me

molten oasis
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Maybe I was thinking of a different team I saw from someone else

mighty stump
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Lol

molten oasis
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What happened?

mighty stump
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I woke up sad

dull ibex
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everything good? what happened

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oh it be like that sometimes

mighty stump
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Dropped playoffs

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Threw G3

molten oasis
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oh, sorry man

bold geode
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Tofu you just gotta move on sadly
Shit happens

dull ibex
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thats rough

bold geode
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Though I do feel you

hard swift
mighty stump
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Yeah unfortunately player pride and sense of responsibility makes it hard to do that but everyone on the team has been incredibly nice

dull ibex
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but ye it be like that

bold geode
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As bad as it feels, the past is also the past

dull ibex
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sure I totally agree but I would til atleast AFTER the person is sad lmao

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that being said you'll get em next time tofu

bold geode
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Hey you know me

molten oasis
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Next league for sure

mighty stump
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Well it helps when the NAIC Champion tells you its okay and said you had great games

bold geode
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I'm just brutally honest and to the point sometimes
But hey yeah you can get it next time brother
You gotta fall on your ass before you succeed

molten oasis
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That’s hype, oh yes I forgot that was one of your teammates

mighty stump
#

Brutally honest shit doesn’t work on me

chrome knot
dull ibex
#

brutally honest is a bad idea for someone still actively sad monke lmao

mighty stump
#

But I appreciate the sentiment

bold geode
mighty stump
#

I just hate the thought of next time

#

I wanted now

dull ibex
#

holy shit I feel that

molten oasis
#

That’s real

solid frigate
#

It kinda is,i felt that

mighty stump
#

I have never felt more emotional/cared more than I had yesterday

#

regarding a loss

bold geode
#

Yeah
Sometimes now just doesn't happen
Just have a mad redemption arc

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

I take Haikyuu’s Inarizaki’s motto way to heart

molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
#

id like to participate in a draft league eventually

molten oasis
#

Nah, all I need is vgc

#

And Bloons

mighty stump
#

After yesterday’s loss I genuinely felt the need to drop all the content/creative work and commit to metagaming

solid frigate
mighty stump
molten oasis
#

Ic

solid frigate
#

VGC can be fustrated sometimes and hell I haven’t built a good team this Month in Reg H

molten oasis
#

I have, something

solid frigate
chrome knot
foggy lodge
#

i don't know what happened but i hope you'll feel better soon tofu

molten oasis
#

THROW

forest arrow
#

Nah commended rightfully so, it’s hard to get up when you get knocked down

solid frigate
#

THROW

molten oasis
#

I need those fucking shinies

mighty stump
forest arrow
#

okay so hunt them I told you I’d message you when I’m free

molten oasis
#

I can’t dude

mighty stump
#

My goal was to connect and grow and move forward

molten oasis
#

They’re in the game I can’t access

bold geode
molten oasis
#

sorry, I’ve been waiting weeks

#

It’s getting irritating

molten oasis
#

Schedules just haven’t lined up

mighty stump
#

I need to be better

molten oasis
dull ibex
#

tourneys would be awful for my mental ngl

#

im hyper competitive

bold geode
mighty stump
#

It’s less about my loss and more about how it also felt like there were people counting on me as well

bold geode
mighty stump
#

I feel I’d take a solo loss in a tour better

#

My team has the best teammates and manager I think I could ask for

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

might as well buy scarlet idk man

dull ibex
#

I rage super super easily

dull ibex
bold geode
forest arrow
#

No that’ understandable, it’s not the loss, it’s the fact that you feel like you let the team down, i get it

mighty stump
#

Go Ultra Space Timelords!!!

chrome knot
#

glad you had a lovely experience tofu tbh

mighty stump
#

Not my best showing either

dull ibex
mighty stump
#

Starving

bold geode
chrome knot
#

i went 0-2 in a format i didn’t like said yall can bench me im hindering more than im helping and never showed up after that

mighty stump
#

Oh dear

chrome knot
#

i wasnt needed GiggleHehe

#

and reg g was frustrating the way meta was curving during that time

solid frigate
#

i'm kinda the opposite here

I kinda struggle to teambuild in Reg H

dull ibex
#

im a bit fustrated with my laddering ngl

bold geode
#

I just feel like the raging can be controlled

mighty stump
solid frigate
#

cuz like when i want a mon that i can fit it perfectly and all that it said is,Too bad,its banned

dull ibex
#

yes monke very easy for you to speak for my raging, please just drop it

mighty stump
#

Im ending 3-1

chrome knot
#

ouhh

mighty stump
#

But thats less important

#

Lol

chrome knot
#

no bueno, 3-1 is good thoo

mighty stump
#

It is!

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

But I need to be better

chrome knot
#

if i 6-3 a regional like idk what ill do with myself ngl tofuKG_Giggles

#

temporary paralysis

mighty stump
solid frigate
#

i mean if its like a first time then yea its good

I mean we saw Keanu get into top 20 in first worlds

dull ibex
#

but yeah im a little fustrated about my laddering

chrome knot
dull ibex
#

im sure ill improve soon enough

molten oasis
#

Play and practice

dull ibex
#

Ye

molten oasis
#

Get some good habits to help you kill the rage

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

That’s what I’m doing rn, I’ve had the same issues for a while

mighty stump
#

I think I need to temper my instinctual play with more solid logical flow and stop applying my own thoughts to the opponents

dull ibex
solid frigate
#

like listen to calm music while laddering or take few breaks from laddering

bold geode
#

I mean Tofu went 3-1 but overall I can understand cuz like just the weight of the loss compared to the wins

molten oasis
#

…I should go I feel like a jerk

mighty stump
#

Cause I actively understand the plays to cover so it’s not like I’m missing information

molten oasis
dull ibex
bold geode
chrome knot
#

i get the pleasure of potentially rooming with Olivia for louisville so that’ll be vry good matchup prep night before SphealBounce @mighty stump but other than that wanna help me replay review and make notes during september grind

bold geode
#

Wait now I am being an ass my bad

dull ibex
#

tofu what can my team do about rain

solid frigate
#

the Gambit Balance?

dull ibex
#

SHIT

mighty stump
#

I don’t know, I’m not thinking about other people’s teams right now

dull ibex
#

alright fair

dull ibex
bold geode
#

But yeah just try to do stuff to help the rage trust it's easier
The only reason I bring it up is cuz tours can actually like
Vastly help you improve lol
So it's less about the rage and more try tournaments

forest arrow
#

You’re playing Sun rn?

dull ibex
#

I don't want to talk about anymore

bold geode
#

Somehow the caliber of player is higher

dull ibex
forest arrow
#

Alr

bold geode
#

Even in online tours

mighty stump
#

Advice must be seeked for it to be accepted

solid frigate
chrome knot
# mighty stump Yes

okie epic thanks, she coaching tmrw and i think i wanna ask her abt literally the meta rn in higher echelons and how i can play into better, plan etc

mighty stump
#

Otherwise it’s a slap in the face

bold geode
#

🤷‍♂️

dull ibex
#

ive worked very hard on my rage I dont really need to be told to just deal with it or its a me issue, I dont want advice

bold geode
#

True

solid frigate
karmic temple
#

Hi friends

bold geode
#

Just stating my perspective, sorry if I come across as some unbridled asshole or something

dull ibex
bold geode
#

I'm an asshole a lot anyways so 🤷‍♂️

solid frigate
dull ibex
#

when I figure out my sun matchup ill get a bit further on cart

solid frigate
mighty stump
molten oasis
dull ibex
karmic temple
#

Reg H is finally my time to return to vgc I’ve been waiting for this format

chrome knot
#

hi tree

rustic mountain
#

hey

dull ibex
#

rain is super enough to deal with I think

chrome knot
#

hru

dull ibex
#

I have tools to resist water and deal with archa

rustic mountain
#

tired RSplat hbu

bold geode
dull ibex
bold geode
#

Well keep in mind with Sun, you're already looking at a pretty bad MU iirc so mapping it out might be rough anyways

dull ibex
#

yeah that is the rough part

molten oasis
#

I think sun mu is kinda rough for that team in general, maybe a like through volc could help?

chrome knot
#

volc is neutral to fire

mighty stump
#

@chrome knot Gengar is actually real

#

Crazy

bold geode
#

Thing is Volc doesn't do much in return

chrome knot
#

gengar is scary

rustic mountain
#

yea volcs not a great sun answer

solid frigate
#

Genger

dull ibex
#

maybe tera blast dragon?

bold geode
#

Like even with QD boosts, you're doing resists

dull ibex
#

maybe I can forgo giga

foggy lodge
#

which tera is gengar usually running? Stellar?

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Idk there’s not much to, do

bold geode
#

What other

molten oasis
#

To fix the mu

rustic mountain
tiny karmaBOT
#
Volcarona's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Body Slam, Bug Bite, Double-Edge, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Flame Charge, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Leech Life, Lunge, Poison Jab, Pounce, Return, Secret Power, Skitter Smack, Take Down, Thrash, Trailblaze, U-turn, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Absorb, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Bug Buzz, Ember, Fiery Dance, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Giga Drain, Gust, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Mystical Fire, Overheat, Psychic, Round, Signal Beam, Silver Wind, Snore, Solar Beam, Struggle Bug, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Amnesia, Attract, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Foresight, Harden, Light Screen, Magnet Rise, Morning Sun, Protect, Quiver Dance, Rage Powder, Rain Dance, Rest, Roost, Safeguard, Screech, Sleep Talk, String Shot, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Whirlwind, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Volcarona.

dull ibex
molten oasis
#

My other thought was HHP on rilla but you want to keep u-turn

solid frigate
#

i like how Volcarona has a good Movepool but only can run few stuff

bold geode
#

Volc really has nothing for Sun lmao
Except if you do like
Tera Ground Blast

#

I think I saw that once though it's fucking stupid

rustic mountain
# dull ibex 🤔

having fire/grass is one of the main benefits of using volc. any other volc set ive seen w/ like struggle bug and what not hasnt been good

foggy lodge
#

The support Volca and the set up

molten oasis
#

I’m not sure what to do for the sun mu tbh

bold geode
#

Honestly why not Tera Dragon Gambito

molten oasis
#

Into typhlosion I think you just sucker punch the typhlosion

#

Torkoal seems like the worse of the 2 mu’s

dull ibex
#

aren't i worried about tera there

solid frigate
molten oasis
bold geode
#

Tera Dragon Gambit might be worth a shot

dull ibex
bold geode
#

Yeah if they're not using Eruption it's a bit more manageable

#

But I feel like Dragon Gambit might be worth a shot

molten oasis
#

You can also just Tera fire and click wood hammer with rilla

#

Which does a good chunk to it

forest arrow
#

You usually can’t sucker tho

bold geode
#

Tera Dragon Gambit + Clef to redirect Moonblasts 🤷‍♂️

forest arrow
#

Sun teams usually have Farig or Indeedee

molten oasis
#

Do typhlosion teams run Fari?

forest arrow
#

Yes

bold geode
#

They should

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

ah

#

Yea Tera fire wood hammer ig

bold geode
#

If they don't they're fuckin throwing

solid frigate
#

if they don't run Psyspams then yeah

foggy lodge
molten oasis
#

Tauros kinda just explodes unfortunately

solid frigate
#

ok why did i want to build i psyspam team just for giggles

molten oasis
#

Poor spD does not help

foggy lodge
#

I think Htyphlo has to play anti priority

molten oasis
#

I’ve seen many no anti prio typhlosion teams

#

Idk why, I just rarely see it

#

With anti prio

forest arrow
#

The ones with male indeedee are just like why

foggy lodge
#

what's the usual comp of Htyphlo?

molten oasis
#

Male indeedee lmao

forest arrow
#

Just run female and click helping hand

solid frigate
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Usually they have ty whimsi, I think Bloodmoon and fari is common with them

forest arrow
molten oasis
#

Meow and prim, neat

forest arrow
#

yeah some do pledge stuff

molten oasis
#

I think prim is kinda weird rn

forest arrow
#

Others opt for scarf and haze

solid frigate
#

oh fuck i thought is set for Typhlo-

molten oasis
#

Idt it’s bad but it feels awkward to me

foggy lodge
#

Never thought id see that lol

molten oasis
#

like just in general, playing dodge the monkey sucks

forest arrow
foggy lodge
#

But the pledge effects are pretty big

forest arrow
#

I’m playing my this right now

#

Swamp is the best pledge yes

#

I wasn’t liking it tho

molten oasis
#

We lost miraidon and replaced it with typhlosion lol

forest arrow
#

lol true 🤣

molten oasis
#

I like that typhlosion is a meta thing

#

Cool Mon

molten oasis
#

I should play more archetypes, I played some clef gambit stuff it feels solid

dull ibex
#

anyone feel like watching weegeecee?

#

in a bit

molten oasis
#

Idt I’ll, pursue gambit clef stuff

forest arrow
#

Yeah we love to see typhlo popping off

bold geode
molten oasis
#

I’m pretty set on what mons I want to play

dull ibex
#

I think ill be around in an hour?

bold geode
forest arrow
#

I miss him

molten oasis
#

And then try to shove a9 into everything

foggy lodge
#

Thanks

molten oasis
bold geode
#

I want my milk the chocky way

dull ibex
#

having short hair is pog

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

Yk who I miss

#

I’m not even joking shifus as really fun Mon to use

#

even if it’s stupid

dull ibex
#

it makes the game a bit boring

molten oasis
#

I also think Archa rain over and over again is pretty boring

dull ibex
#

I miss ogerpon

forest arrow
#

You know what beats archa rains? 😭

dull ibex
#

nuh uh

forest arrow
#

Yuh uh

#

Joking

#

But Brian hands

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

I miss Chien Pao and Entei

#

😭😭

solid frigate
#

I miss Chi Yu And Bolt

#

Urshifu as well kinda

bold geode
#

Literally give us back Pao and Flutter
We'd be vibin then

solid frigate
#

lol

forest arrow
#

PaoTeiNite entered chat

foggy lodge
#

I loved that team

forest arrow
#

Me too

foggy lodge
#

I spammed that team all reg F

bold geode
solid frigate
#

just give me back Chi Yu i miss using it as well

forest arrow
#

I was just telling Torrent how I missed reg f lmao

foggy lodge
solid frigate
#

SAME I MISS REG F

PELI ARCHA IS NOT A NUISANCE HERE

forest arrow
bold geode
#

Yeah I just got good at Reg F when Reg G was announced bro

foggy lodge
#

I think whe reg G comes back im playing the Zama Chien Pao Rillaboom Entei core

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

I played PaoTeiNite all reg f when in reg G PaoTeiZama was there the whole time

#

Why

foggy lodge
#

im tryharding to become a very good Zama player tbh

solid frigate
#

same but Miraidon and Terapagos for me

pastel blade
#

Is it reg h yet?

bold geode
#

Yes

solid frigate
#

in Showdown yea

forest arrow
#

Yeah started yesterday

pastel blade
#

On the game

forest arrow
#

yes

solid frigate
#

nope then

forest arrow
#

You can ladder on cart

foggy lodge
#

im between Miraidon and Zama tbh

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

if the santiago regional is single restricted idk what to do lol

#

For some reason Zama is played a lot here

forest arrow
#

Mirror match time baby lol

solid frigate
foggy lodge
foggy lodge
#

I love the Crown on that team

#

Your Miraidon is tera electric or tera fairy?

solid frigate
pastel blade
solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

Makes sense

#

i saw a clip of Miraidon dazzling gleam

rustic mountain
#

tera fairy become the default for miraidon by the end of reg g

foggy lodge
#

Didn't thought it would deal so much damage😭

forest arrow
solid frigate
forest arrow
#

I mean it’s works exceptionally

#

But it was just a sudden shift out of no where lol

solid frigate
#

D-Gleam is fine

Its just people afraid of Specs and don't know about Volt Switch

rustic mountain
#

it had been around i didnt think itd become that common tho. i think ppl bridged the gap b/w the cm and av sets that were running it and jus were like why not w/ specs nd yea it def works lol

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

There was a AV Miraidon in top 16 at worlds right?

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Discharge was just like, you have to build around that, and that was kind of a hindrance in itself

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Like it’s good don’t get me wrong but you know what I mean

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

You’re playing reg g?

#

That ladder is still up?

foggy lodge
#

Showdown deleted it

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Lmaoooo

solid frigate
#

kek

molten oasis
#

Eric Andre, funny guy

rustic mountain
solid frigate
#

true

rustic mountain
#

that shit made no sense to me at 1st wen i 1st seen it back in the day at like 3am. then for some reason a year or two later it just clicked haha

dull ibex
#

monke off topic but do you like sloppy joes?

forest arrow
#

Who doesn’t like sloppy Joe’s

rustic mountain
#

i dont

dull ibex
#

my dad made em and put extra brown sugar in i think

forest arrow
#

ooo

dull ibex
#

it almost doesnt feel like eating meat legit

forest arrow
#

In the words of Rengoku

#

TASTY!

rustic mountain
forest arrow
#

What

#

Did he use ground beef?

dull ibex
#

yeah

#

i ate 5 over the course of the day

#

2 at 3ish 2 more for dinner at 5pm and I got hungry just now so i had one more

molten oasis
dull ibex
#

im a big beef and chicken guy if its cooked right

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

I’m softboiling some eggs to my ramen rn

dull ibex
#

the other day I ate chicken skewers

#

very good with a sauce

dull ibex
#

I sprinkled on a tiny bit more salt

molten oasis
#

mid anime, beyond the fight scenes

dull ibex
#

it was heaven tbh

molten oasis
#

cuz thats all i watch it for

dull ibex
#

dude we need the switch 2

solid frigate
dull ibex
#

I want portable fallout 4

molten oasis
forest arrow
#

Nah I’m ready for that

molten oasis
dull ibex
molten oasis
#

oh wait, they probably will make it outdated again

dull ibex
#

because the switch is a high end device for 2017

solid frigate
#

its nintendo

#

what do you expect

dull ibex
#

its a mobile device guys.

molten oasis
#

the xbox 1 Kermitlaugh

dull ibex
#

the switch 2 is going to be better then the steam deck

molten oasis
#

i hope so

dull ibex
#

do you consider that outdated atp?

solid frigate
#

i mean hopefully

dull ibex
#

we have some of the specs from a nvidia leak iirc

molten oasis
#

the xbox 1? yea for sure lol

dull ibex
#

no the steamdeck do you consider that outdated

molten oasis
#

idk i havent used one i wouldn't know

#

or looked at its specs, it seems like a strong console

dull ibex
#

the steamdeck is a lot less powerful then the ps5 or xbox series x

#

don't expect that level of power

molten oasis
#

nah im gonna, because im coping

dull ibex
#

fun fact the switch isnt outdated for its year

#

phones and other mobile devices were NOT doing what it could do

molten oasis
#

i'd like to play pokemon at more than 2 frames a second

dull ibex
timber falcon
#

What’s happening

dull ibex
#

that is entirely on gamefreak genuinely

forest arrow
#

That’s the games fault

molten oasis
#

fair enough

dull ibex
#

every pokemon game besides gen 3 and possibly 5 run like garbage

timber falcon
#

Steam, gamefreak?

dull ibex
#

im comparing the switch 2 to the steam deck

molten oasis
#

did its specs get leaked?

dull ibex
#

yeah

molten oasis
#

neat

dull ibex
#

but obviously grain of salt

timber falcon
#

There’s a new switch on the way ? :0

dull ibex
#

leaks can be false but this a 90% guarentee from me

molten oasis
#

yea, its been like, a thing for a while just hasn't been officially revealed

solid frigate
#

i do not wanna trust leaks man

molten oasis
#

im betting game awards if anything

#

if we get an announcement this year

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Yeah switch 2 has been a thing for a little just not fully announced

dull ibex
timber falcon
dull ibex
#

its going to be above ps4 at worst in handheld

molten oasis
#

remember when the loyal three got leaked lol

dull ibex
#

above steam deck for sure

foggy lodge
#

what which leaks

solid frigate
dull ibex
#

I dont know the source of the switch 2 leaks to be honest

molten oasis
dull ibex
#

Like I don't know who leaked it

#

the people I copied it from probably do

molten oasis
#

i hope so

#

i'd like a strong handheld console

timber falcon
#

Shouldn’t it be the switch 360 or something

dull ibex
#

but I dont really know if knowing what redditor leaked nvidia's plans is useful to you

molten oasis
#

that compares to a ps4 at worst

dull ibex
molten oasis
dull ibex
#

even if it was comparable in raw horsepower

#

the switch will be capable of the newest upscaling which is great

#

and better raytracing and shit

molten oasis
#

hopefully

dull ibex
#

because its ALOT more modern

timber falcon
dull ibex
#

think about it this way because the switch is more modern it can do SO MUCH more then the xbox 360

molten oasis
#

i also think switch 2 makes more sense, xbox was doing its own thing

dull ibex
#

even if it was only a little bit better (its not only a bit better)

molten oasis
#

360, then to one, then to series

forest arrow
#

Pc master race

molten oasis
#

im looking at buying an xbox rn

dull ibex
#

we're also going to get cod on it

#

like the new one in 2025

molten oasis
#

so apex isnt fucking miserable

#

cheaters, everywhere

dull ibex
#

and we know this because they have a contract

molten oasis
#

with nintendo?

dull ibex
#

microsoft and nintendo have a deal in place to get the newest cod on nintendo hardware

molten oasis
#

oh wait right doesn't microsoft own, yea yea i forgot about that

dull ibex
#

yeah activision is owned by microsoft now

molten oasis
#

they got activision and blizzard right? or just activision

dull ibex
#

they're the same company

molten oasis
#

they are?

dull ibex
#

I call it actiblizz

molten oasis
#

oh, ic

dull ibex
molten oasis
#

theyre merged but still do seperate stuff?

#

is that what it is?

dull ibex
#

kind of

molten oasis
#

ah, i'll look into that later

#

neat tho, i learned a lot

dull ibex
#

anyone around to vc?

molten oasis
#

im about to vc with others sorry

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
#

No

chrome knot
#

@craggy dagger where are you imy

bold geode
chrome knot
#

:(

bold geode
#

Personal stuff I think idk I just know she taking break

chrome knot
#

:(((((

whole ibex
#

May I join vc?

dull ibex
#

no (yes)

knotty briar
#

I haven't gone online yet due to dragonite farming
How's reg H treating everyone?

tiny karmaBOT
#
Ability: Unburden

If this Pokemon loses its held item for any reason, its Speed is doubled as long as it remains active, has this Ability, and is not holding an item.

#
Ability: Unburden

If this Pokemon loses its held item for any reason, its Speed is doubled as long as it remains active, has this Ability, and is not holding an item.

dull ibex
#

monke ded

#

@bold geode you good?

chrome knot
#

what the hell is goin on

balmy glen
#

He got Comfey healed then surging striked

#

Emma you don’t know the animations in game? 🥹

torn parrot
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I’m trying to watch Ms. Marvel but im ngl im getting really bored

patent marsh
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Everything they make is either mediocre or boring

chrome knot
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having a hard time watching

molten oasis
mighty stump
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@chrome knot patcon added to friends list

balmy glen
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His movement is fire fr

mighty stump
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Pretty accurate portrait

dull ibex
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Hello

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Tofu you missed a good ass set from me and monke

torn parrot
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I feel like

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I have to use that roar archaludon

mighty stump
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Not like you can Roar a Hatterene anyways

torn parrot
mighty stump
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There is the miss chance tho so just weigh that out

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Imo I like support Archa

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Snarl/STABs/+1

devout mist
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Reg H is on let's fucking go

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I made my 1st team ever

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hella weak to fairy but pseudos are just too good

dull ibex
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I've done terrible on ladder

devout mist