competitive_discussion

[tiny peak]

Rock tomb?

[solid frigate]

i don

don't think any good/ Relevant Pokemon in Reg G uses that

[tiny peak]

Fire ogerpon can learn it

[solid frigate]

but you want your Ogerpon to run 2 STAB Moves, Follow Me/Swords Dance/Taunt and Spikey Shield-

[jovial verge]

Do you know of any regulation H tournaments that I can join?

[tiny peak]

I'm running the 2 stab, swords dance and an open slot so rock tomb could fit

[solid frigate]

you can try visit Limitless for Online Tours

[solid frigate]

Are you playing Singles-

[tiny peak]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

of Course no wonder why.

even Singles,Hearthflame Pon does not run that.

[jovial verge]

But, i need code

[solid frigate]

they don't need codes? Unless they play SV Cart,your opponent would ask for a Link Battle Code

[tiny peak]

Rayquaza life orb tera normal/corviknight defogger/zacian Crowned tera water/swampert rock setter/miraidon choice scarf tera electric/ and ogerpon which I'm trying to pick which one between water and fire one, and got most things covered the problem I either need crunch on zacian or knock off on ogerpon, but koraidon is the last pokemon I need to make sure I have a check to

[solid frigate]

i really can't help honestly,i don

[tiny peak]

I'm thinking zacian is good, but choice scarf could also ohko scarf koraidon but if it teras then I can do enough chip to extreme speed with ray to beat it

[solid frigate]

i don't play singles anymore

[tiny peak]

I play both I like both of em so I hear ya

[devout mist]

Which singles format you playing ?

[tiny peak]

Battle stadium casual

Only thing I can think is my scarf miriadon is a good check cause it can ohko or do enough damage and make em tera, but who wins the speed tie if both miradion and koraidon are scarfed

Same base speed with nature's that increase speed

[devout mist]

It's a coin toss then

Welcome to mirrors

[tiny peak]

Ah ok but I'm assuming the mirror check is better than zacian checking miraidon or koraidon

[craggy dagger]

huh

[solid frigate]

yep

[devout mist]

it boils down to what lead vs what lead. it's not a clear answer

[tiny peak]

I was hoping zacian would be the check to them since my plan is to take Ray's weaknesses out with zacian

Well if anyone thinks of anything I have an updated post with current lay out of team, I do apologize to everyone for being persistent about a casual team lol, bad mental health and all that

[devout mist]

thing is in Singles, people will abuse switch out and double switches

[tiny peak]

@devout mist that's true

[devout mist]

like you might just run into a suicide lead with hazards + sash

[tiny peak]

I'm not to worried about hazards if I defog them but also depends on the mon

[torn parrot]

Who wants pizza

🍕

[devout mist]

I assume you're doing Ubers right

[tiny peak]

Just casuals where legends are not restricted

[tiny peak]

Does a tera water zacian with tera blast beat koraidon wether they tera or not like play rough if they don't and tera blast if they do?

[knotty mirage]

I mean koraidon set up sunny weather so i don't think so

[jade dust]

Don’t like the 200 turns games either

Singles is fine for the adventure play but when playing tryhard, it’s lame

[devout mist]

Games do not last that long on average I can assure you

To even go upwards of 100 turns you need to be facing stall and lack any wallbreaker, which ends up being a team composition weakness

[torn parrot]

I did away with the cursed incin

I know it’s a shame

[devout mist]

I've been looking at building my 1st team for reg H around Amoonguss. So far I have Incineroar Gholdengo and Amoonguss but I'm unsure what I should add.

Pelipper Archuladon looks to be a good duo to pair them with

[rustic mountain]

seems like a solid start so far

[bold geode]

Peli Archaludon is good, also consider Porygon 2 and Ursaluna as well
Though tbh you kinda got decent range with those 3

[devout mist]

wdym range ?

I like P2 Ursaluna route tbh

[bold geode]

Well you can go many different routes with that
Tbh range was probably not the right word

[devout mist]

ok ok

i tried some samples for the current rules but I didn't like how high the power is

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/ed67fcb0fce1bb91

[bold geode]

Oooooooooooooooh stuff

(I had that 6 but different spreads

And sets

[chrome knot]

im home from work am i late for pizza :(

[bold geode]

@mighty stump do we Sludge Bomb Amoonguss?

[mighty stump]

I mean if you want

[chrome knot]

tofu

[mighty stump]

ya

[chrome knot]

is this deviating too far from the norm?

https://pokepast.es/4f1fb7cc37535bfa

[mighty stump]

what is

Where is the deviation

[bold geode]

Fuck it

[chrome knot]

band dnite

[bold geode]

I'm struggling to see the problem

[chrome knot]

idk it feels a lil outta place on this core

[bold geode]

I mean the 6th is kinda whatever
I've used Primarina and Palafin, but I've also seen people use Band Pult

Band Dnite probably would be alright

[chrome knot]

probably, ill give er a go

I won a free booster box lol

[bold geode]

Also slap a Lorb on that Dengo you won't

[devout mist]

looks like my team lol

[chrome knot]

i have teams with lorb dengo

[bold geode]

Lorb Nasty Plot Dengo go hard

[chrome knot]

its uncomfy strong

in sense that like you catch alot of people off guard

with its raw damage output

[bold geode]

I mean I remember it fucking up Hands so

Just absurd

[nocturne holly]

Lorb dengo op

Best dengo item

[craggy dagger]

wah-

[chrome knot]

what

[chrome knot]

are you okay

[plain drum]

GG

[mighty stump]

BG

[plain drum]

Damn

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

i be snug as a bug in a rug rn

nervous af bc i have a challenge tmrw

[plain drum]

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger this is literally me :(

[plain drum]

Omg kitty hi meow

[mighty stump]

omg

💉

It's time

[molten oasis]

What’s with the syringe

[mighty stump]

Euthanasia time

Cowabunga

[molten oasis]

Ah

[mighty stump]

Legally I have a +ve K/D ratio

[molten oasis]

Damn bro keeps count

[versed linden]

Made a purposely silly rain team for laughs. Judge it.

https://pokepast.es/b01d551951ba3376

[wispy spade]

if gastrodon protects, does it still absorb water moves?

[versed linden]

I don't think so since you're stopping the move from connecting.

[mighty stump]

Yes it does.

[wispy spade]

[knotty mirage]

Is it good idea to slot intimidate choice spec salamance on rain team ?

[mighty stump]

I mean

Do you think it’s a good idea

[craggy dagger]

it’s an idea alright .-.

[bold geode]

Your profession is the only thing keeping you safe

[mighty stump]

I’m not sayjng it’s a bad idea

I’m just asking what’s the reasoning

[knotty mirage]

Maybe i'm not really sure but i think it just neat to have intimidate pokemon that can still do good damage and doesn't get affected by mirror intimidate

And choice spec hurricane should synergyze well with rain team

[mighty stump]

Try it out then

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i guess i will then it can be good switch in for archuladon too

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 373: Salamence

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Moxie (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/135/80/110/80/100

Total

600

Other Formes

Salamence-Mega

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[knotty mirage]

Oh yeah and what tera should i give it too steel or fire ?

[craggy dagger]

steel might be more useful?
if you’re running it in a rain team then you don wanna die to opposing water moves that got rain boosted

though an argument can be made for both sides

[knotty mirage]

Alright then i'm going for steel

[mighty stump]

Ehm

Dunno

You probably want Helping Hand support at that point

Cause you’re probably not KOing Archa with Draco

[knotty mirage]

I mean archuladon only weakness is ground and fighting so i can switch in my archuladon to salamance without taking damage

[knotty mirage]

Oh you mean openent archuladon i might just use something else to ko it

Or just give peli helping hand i guess

[dapper crag]

Electric, Water, Flying, Dragon, Fighting

Hits for 1x

Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Poison, Psychic, Stellar

Hits for 2x

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel, Water

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

do you guys think lycanroc can work?

[craggy dagger]

tough claws?

[molten oasis]

i was thinking sand lycanroc stuff

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 745: Lycanroc-Dusk

Type

Rock

Abilities

Tough Claws

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/117/65/55/65/110

Total

487

Base Species

Lycanroc

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

ohhh

maybe :0
i think it would be neat

decent coverage too :0

[molten oasis]

i'll look at it

[dapper crag]

Lycanroc's moveset:

Physical Moves

Accelerock, Assurance, Bite, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Covet, Crunch, Crush Claw, Dig, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Endeavor, Facade, Fire Fang, Frustration, Giga Impact, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Last Resort, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs, Quick Attack, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Climb, Rock Slide, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Tail Slap, Take Down, Thrash, Thunder Fang, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Hidden Power, Hyper Voice, Mud-Slap, Round, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Bulk Up, Charm, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Howl, Iron Defense, Leer, Odor Sleuth, Protect, Quick Guard, Rest, Roar, Rock Polish, Sand Attack, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lycanroc.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

sash endeavor

[molten oasis]

sure

[cyan smelt]

tough claws does boost close combat

[molten oasis]

what moves do ttar run?

[craggy dagger]

and sans rush-
no but it’s a decent movepool.
play rough, psychic fangs, drill run, crunch. accelrock/rock slide. sucker punch,

[molten oasis]

wait

[craggy dagger]

oh yeah close combat too

[molten oasis]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tough Claws Lycanroc-Dusk Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 214-254 (108.6 - 128.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[craggy dagger]

damn ok

i see you

but tough claws is dusk

[molten oasis]

true yea

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 745: Lycanroc

Type

Rock

Abilities

Keen Eye, Sand Rush, Steadfast (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/115/65/55/65/112

Total

487

Other Formes

Lycanroc-Midnight, Lycanroc-Dusk

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

mostly curious tbf

252 Atk Lycanroc-Midday Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Archaludon: 102-120 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

at least its a 2hko

no actually its not cuz of stamina

[craggy dagger]

bulk is the same it just got 2 points from speed stat moved into attack

so i’d say unless you wanna run sand rush, you’re fine running dusk

[molten oasis]

i mean, idt dusk lycan is good but maybe tera ghost band could be fun

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 745: Lycanroc-Midnight

Type

Rock

Abilities

Keen Eye, Vital Spirit, No Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/115/75/55/75/82

Total

487

Base Species

Lycanroc

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

added bulk for lower speed .-.

but no guard

[molten oasis]

The bulk is still bad lol

[dapper crag]

Ability: No Guard

Every move used by or against this Pokemon will always hit.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 1002: Chien-Pao

Types

Dark/Ice

Abilities

Sword of Ruin

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/80/90/65/135

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

yeah true

[molten oasis]

imagine if pao had 130 att and 80 spa lol

[craggy dagger]

oh dear

gotta optimize base stats
.-.
something GF didnt understand until calyrex ice and shadow-
then they forgot about it again

[molten oasis]

eh

Look at raging bolt

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1021: Raging Bolt

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/73/91/137/89/75

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[craggy dagger]

fair

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 128: Tauros-Paldea-Aqua

Types

Fighting/Water

Abilities

Intimidate, Anger Point, Cud Chew (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/105/30/70/100

Total

490

Base Species

Tauros

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

This guy also has a VERY clear role

[craggy dagger]

just lower the attack by 3 and add it to special defense please :3

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 970: Glimmora

Types

Rock/Poison

Abilities

Toxic Debris, Corrosion (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

83/55/90/130/81/86

Total

525

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

They’re getting better at designing pokemon competitively, kinda

There’s the slip ups, fluttermane

[craggy dagger]

i don’t think they wanna make another flutter mane/incineroar again .-.

[molten oasis]

shifu

[craggy dagger]

which sucks cause i love flutter mane

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 892: Urshifu

Types

Fighting/Dark

Abilities

Unseen Fist

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/130/100/63/60/97

Total

550

Other Formes

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

I love shifus design, unfair Mon in competitive

[craggy dagger]

i mean they made it pretty obvious what to hit it with

[molten oasis]

well the Mon in total

Bolt and mane both have photosynthesis

[craggy dagger]

i mean-
when it came out it was supposed to be balanced by dynamax .-.

[molten oasis]

Shifu has that

And then didn’t balance it

But balanced zacian

[craggy dagger]

cause max guard could block unseen fist

thennnn
they said eh whatever let’s bring this into sv where it can’t really be balanced .-.

[molten oasis]

lol

[cyan smelt]

Then they doubled down with mighty cleave but at least that's on a bad pokemon

[knotty mirage]

Mighty cleave doesn't have guaranteed crit at least

[craggy dagger]

unseen fist + the guaranteed crit moves just hurt too much

[mighty stump]

@bold geode

Bro

LOL

[timber falcon]

the disrespect

[mighty stump]

I'm like t200 Bo3 atm and im still not sure what i want out of the team

Lmao

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

sure

[azure ether]

Hi guys, I won locals again today. I'd like to thank Lycopocky for the team this time

Winning with Terapagos in a Terapagos themed tournament was a wonderful coincidence

[timber falcon]

very nice

[mighty stump]

Congrats

[timber falcon]

im actually really liking clangorous soul kommo-o

i feel like with the sinistcha combo i get more ways of really damaging my opponent

and maintaining its spot on the field

https://pokepast.es/2b01f7491f72bd44 but is there anything that im doing especially dumb here?

[mighty stump]

Grass on Incineroar tbh

Not sure about Room Service Primarina

Aura Sphere on Kommo-o

[timber falcon]

What about them nasty fairies

[chrome knot]

why are you excited to euthanize me!!!

[timber falcon]

The main plan is to spam scales, so I was sure having steel coverage would be better than fighting STAB. I guess it works for steel types but the relevant ones like dengo won’t be hit either way and archaludon takes a massive chunk from scales

[timber falcon]

Was drawing a blank. And since it’s for tr I just slapped it on

[chrome knot]

no item primarina

[timber falcon]

Might as well add miracle seed

Wait lol I can just use mystic water no?

[chrome knot]

look at ur fuckin spread bruh use leftovers

[pearl wind]

congrats!

[plain drum]

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump member count rn is 1booob

[mighty stump]

what

[chrome knot]

180,008

[zinc totem]

is meowscarada still decent for reg H or nah

[knotty mirage]

I think it def still have some usage due too good speed

[zinc totem]

it also do learn grassy glide so it can be paired with rillaboom

i know im gonna get bullied but https://pokepast.es/542c1c39601762b5 been making raw draft of meowscarada team kinda, tho i dunno if band really is good option there (havent yet set on tera most pokemons), i also was a bit there thinking maybe paldea tauros water would be something to consider about aswell

[solid frigate]

why not just use Rillaboom for Glide and Meow for Attacker then

[zinc totem]

yeah i had u-turn there on meow

instead of glide originally

[mighty stump]

No real reason to use Glide

Esp if you are going to run Sucker

[solid frigate]

yeah Glide Meow does not work like Hearthflame does

if you have a grass move that always Crits

[zinc totem]

yeah assumed so

i was in between few ones like u-turn, play rough and triple axel

[solid frigate]

just run Flower Trick,Sucker Punch,U-Turn and Play Rough/Triple Axel

[zinc totem]

im curious why no knock off haha

knock off seems valuable beacuse indeedees and faris around tho triple axel hitting 3 times probs do same amount dmg

[solid frigate]

Incin exists

[zinc totem]

thats true but i wouldnt be able slot incin into team unless i replace hisui arca/hoodra

[solid frigate]

and other pokemon has knock off

[zinc totem]

yeah, need fiddle with team then if i want incin in for knock off if meow isnt using it

god i love hisui arca https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2186790282

[dull ibex]

did you say harc?

[zinc totem]

yes Harc and Hoodra in same team

[dull ibex]

rock head harc has been a wild ride

[zinc totem]

for me i use intimidate

[bold geode]

Nah bro why tf is Go laddering

[dull ibex]

OH GOD ITS DOLLAR

[bold geode]

Lemme in Red

[dull ibex]

its opened

[forest arrow]

Can you open another slot

[forest arrow]

por favor

[zinc totem]

Inci/meow team https://pokepast.es/44b87cd51544058c (in final product i put tera ghost for inci)

or

Harca/meow https://pokepast.es/a815d0a3bff4551a

which one should i focus on improving? 🤔 I might not need rilla on inci version (which might be better overall)

[calm gulch]

#BullyMonke

[bold geode]

No more ASMR?

[mighty stump]

@late condor Your post in #rental_teams have been removed for not following the outlined format. If you wish to re-post the teams, please remember to fill in the required information.

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[calm gulch]

i had a talk here and they said you don’t actually like asmr

[bold geode]

True

[torn parrot]

You know

I think I’m getting real sick and tired of fighting archaludon

Every

Single

Game

[mighty stump]

Im not. Free wins ggez

😎

[zinc totem]

i feel you

[torn parrot]

😔😭

I fight archaludon in my dreams

[zinc totem]

for me i always ohko it with sneasler

[torn parrot]

Last night I dreamed I was fighting archaludon over and over again

[zinc totem]

unless they random tera grass/fairy

[torn parrot]

Yeah it’s kind of a coinflip

Luckily I can turn off the rain

[mighty stump]

I’ve been dreaming about blundering at my job for this last week 😭

Like I went to bed, dreamt about work, woke up to then go to work…

[zinc totem]

but beacuse im bored of using my main team all the time, i decided now "Oh hey why wouldnt i do meowscarada team"

now im fiddling incine/paldea tauros version and Harca/hoodra version of meow teams

[zinc totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kurler-warner-designby-kurlz-love-hugs-hugs-and-love-gif-25702772

[bold geode]

@mighty stump @dull ibex later

[dull ibex]

he is already gone but see ya

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Ah I didn't see y'all leave

[solid frigate]

we all fucking gone lmao

[kindred cypress]

How would an unaware skeledirge do against arch and dozo?

[solid frigate]

its alright

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2186884843

Kek

[zinc totem]

hah nice!

i just had interesting match, https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2186889439 garganacl seems to atleast have gotten more use in 1400 Elo

[molten oasis]

My man

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-handshake-arnold-handshake-grip-predator-handshake-gif-21782662

(I’m finding mausape/Archa peli to be easier mu’s)

[solid frigate]

wait you cracked the code?

[molten oasis]

Yea, be the better fucking player

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Yk what I’m playing

Wolfey changed his Twitter pfp to the worlds picture I’m dying

[bold geode]

The code was easy to crack

[molten oasis]

Andrew Armstrong also thinks a9 is ok, am I just bad lol

[solid frigate]

yeah ikik

[bold geode]

Skill issue

[zinc totem]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2186904653 , https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2186806881

i cant decide which version i sbetter, they both doingso well

1400 low elo but still

[kindred cypress]

https://pokepast.es/7439d74d25160cd3 Thoughts?

[bold geode]

WHY

Also hai Nova

[forest arrow]

Hai babe

I passed out when we were in VC lmao

[dull ibex]

I do that all the time in my friend group's discord

[solid frigate]

because of teh BONK

[icy vale]

This isn't too relative for competitive but would a brave nature +attack -speed be something good for a Rampardos? If not what natures might work better for it

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 409: Rampardos

Type

Rock

Abilities

Mold Breaker, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

97/165/60/65/50/58

Total

495

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral ridge]

Any reason for not being +atk -spatk?

[bold geode]

Although it's not good, considering it'd probably be a Trick Room esque Mon, that'd probably be fine

[spiral ridge]

Yeah if it’s for TR that would be good

[bold geode]

That or Adamant

[icy vale]

I was considering adamant as well

[bold geode]

Brave would be nice actually

[spiral ridge]

If it’s for TR keep it. If not those few extra speed points may help out speed some TR mons

Either way should be okay

Could be kept with the nature as a TR answer although usual TR mons are even slower aren’t they?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

[icy vale]

So brave for trick room and adamant just as an overall balanced situation. Since the only special attacks it can learn is ancient power and the rest it can learn are just tm moves it won't get stab from

[spiral ridge]

It’s not bad basically

Even if it can get STAB its base stat is so low 😭

Jesus Christ it has sheer force

Does sheer force and life orb still work together?

Does it still negate the health thing

[icy vale]

I have heard of that working like that but never have been sure if it was the case

[spiral ridge]

It was a set on tornadus as it made its damage disgusting

[dull ibex]

be hold

[spiral ridge]

Landorus* I’m bad with names

[dapper crag]

Ability: Sheer Force

This Pokemon's attacks with secondary effects have their power multiplied by 1.3, but the secondary effects are removed. If a secondary effect was removed, it also removes the user's Life Orb recoil and Shell Bell recovery, and prevents the target's Anger Shell, Berserk, Color Change, Emergency Exit, Pickpocket, Wimp Out, Red Card, Eject Button, Kee Berry, and Maranga Berry from activating.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral ridge]

Yeah it still does remove LO recoil wow

[icy vale]

Oh right Sheer force is regular Landorus' hidden ability

[spiral ridge]

That could be good for the ramp

[spiral ridge]

Yeah just don’t expect to be the fastest vs big TR teams

[foggy lodge]

I want to make a team with Umbreon for reg H

[icy vale]

I pretty much already come to terms with that, I'm also getting Bastiodon stronger to, went with an impish nature +defense -special attack. Both of the Gen 4 fossils aren't too much in terms of special attack

[dull ibex]

maybe i replace farig with redirection

[spiral ridge]

Yeahhh

[spiral ridge]

I mean it has ally switch if you wanna mind game

[spiral ridge]

Doing a fossil team?

[dull ibex]

I would never lower myself as a vgc player that low again

[spiral ridge]

Oh cmon its silly

I’ve never done it but it’s funny to watch

[dull ibex]

its dumb

[icy vale]

Mostly just trying to breed for the shinies with beneficial stats

[dull ibex]

its unnecessary 50/50s

[spiral ridge]

Ahhh okie

[spiral ridge]

Fair enough

[forest arrow]

I woke up with my face in my keyboard and I was like “damn” 😂

[solid frigate]

lol

[devout mist]

Everyone is running the same 4-5 Mons in Reg H ha ha

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/701a75dd84221abf last slot? Palafin?

Also thinking of hydreigon

[craggy dagger]

aqua tauros maybe?
palafin could work too
you could also run torkoal to prevent rain or cloud nine

[bold geode]

Could also consider like Murkrow

[nocturne holly]

Murrow gooooooffffyyyy

Where’s tornadus when I need him 😔

[chrome knot]

+15

[chrome knot]

if you have the 6 pokemon i can set them up with iv/evs

i have 2 maxed out saves

[bold geode]

Nah Emma stinky

Don't trust a stinky person like Emma

[torn parrot]

I should not play showdown on mobile

Can’t focus

[knotty mirage]

If i want to use decorate support is it better to use smeargle or alcreamie ?

[balmy glen]

smearlge

[dapper crag]

Who wants to
Join my competition? Double battles start from 08/25 15:00 to 15:59 UTC Code: 4R6D82

[torn parrot]

No

I have to play one piece treasure cruise

[bold geode]

Yeah
Having access to basically all support is nice
Though there's also the gimmick with Alolan Muk where Muk uses Evasion, copies Moody once Smeargle goes down, and then just stalls out

[zinc totem]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2187056799-nn8atwy8hxrtq2nmdeglllcyr0cev87pw my hoodra in reg H is nasty

[bold geode]

Also I forgot to add you'll also see Smeargle Muk with either Flamigo or a Psych Up Mon to copy the stats that A Muk can get once it has Moody

[spiral ridge]

It sounds nice but it is just annoying to face 😭

Its base stats sucks

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 235: Smeargle

Type

Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Technician, Moody (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/20/35/20/45/75

Total

250

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral ridge]

Very low

[tawny wyvern]

guys does wide guard work for regular attacks aswell?

[spiral ridge]

No just spread attacks

[tawny wyvern]

aww

is there a move that protects an ally pokemon?

[spiral ridge]

Wide guard and quick guard

Protect themself and the ally but only from spread and prio moves respectively

Wide guard is great

I’m reg G with kyogre groudon caly having sig. spread moves it can protect both your allies while allowing one to still attack

Reg H there’s a few hyper voice users it covera

Quick guard sucks as just use something like farig or indeedee for psychic terrain and armor tail

Imo sucks*

[tranquil kraken]

scotty

nice pfp

[spiral ridge]

Literally @ replied you in general earlier 😭 was tryna say hi

[chrome knot]

@spiral ridge

https://tenor.com/view/consider-the-following-rabbit-bunny-pet-gif-26758967

[spiral ridge]

Heya ili thanks I accidentally took off my other one and haven’t been near pc to put it back so place holder
Though I do like it a lot :)

[spiral ridge]

Aweeee cutee :)

[tranquil kraken]

sorry i prolly missed it im at wor

k

[spiral ridge]

All good love lmao

[tranquil kraken]

:3

[spiral ridge]

gl at work

[tranquil kraken]

tyty

[bold geode]

The base stats are horrible
It's only reason for being used is the fact it can use every move in the game except for Dark Void

Because Dark Void + old Moody was fucking broken

It is Darkrai's signature
It's a status move with 50% accuracy (was like 80% iirc before what Smeargle did) that puts whatever it hits to sleep and in doubles, the competitive format, it hits both mons

[spiral ridge]

It can still use it can’t it?

[bold geode]

So basically back in the day, you put a Focus Sash on Smeargle so it could survive two hits guaranteed, and have it use Dark Void
And it was bad cuz Moody used to boost accuracy and evasion as well as the other stats, so accuracy boost would help you hit Dark Void, evasion meant you could miss an attack on Smeargle and get put to sleep, and if it got a speed boost, it could move faster

[spiral ridge]

They just nerfed it for darkrai and smeargle

Poor darkrai having to suffer cus smeargle

[bold geode]

Nope
After Gen 6, which is when it did this, they took it away from Smeargle or at least banned it in competitive
Believe it was taken away
Dark Void was also nerfed to 50% accuracy

And Moody having chance to boost accuracy and evasion was also taken away

[spiral ridge]

Why the nerf then poor darkrai man 😭

[bold geode]

I mean they had to make sure to nerf the move and Smeargle cuz it basically almost ruined competitive scene

There were apparently a lot of players who were gonna quit cuz of Dark Void Smeargle

[spiral ridge]

I get that but double kill one was unnecessary it feels

[bold geode]

I mean hey there's probably other instances where Pokemon had to take backlash of other Pokemon's crimes
Smeargle is just a more extreme case cuz of how oppressive it was

[spiral ridge]

Yeah just also the fact it’s basically a sig move

[cyan smelt]

Smeargle can't learn tera starstorm or revival blessing

[wanton berry]

I seem to have a few ideas for my team like assault vest rillaboom and eviolite clefairy but not sure if I should include Palafin and/or Bloodmoon Ursaluna

Btw preping for Regulation H

[spiral ridge]

I mean you could have both? But regular ursa is faster if you’re doing non TR team

Not going for any water or grass core? Still looks fine

Looking seems like a lot of weakness to water and fighting

But if you got a way to deal with it sure

[dull ibex]

its hyper offense with a slower mode

the overlap is likely fine

fwg is not needed at all

[spiral ridge]

Fair

[foggy lodge]

Ive been playing Clefairy Ursa because its a pretty good check for Annimaus

[spiral ridge]

What is the answer for water though? I don’t see grass or elec or anything

[foggy lodge]

I also have Archapeli

[spiral ridge]

Just MIR and Tera E speed?

[foggy lodge]

And just slapped an Inci

[spiral ridge]

Shadow ball not MIR

[foggy lodge]

Inci can change

[chrome knot]

i think incin sucks ass on this team

[dull ibex]

I was considering replacing it with prim

[foggy lodge]

Excadrill?

Or Lycanroc?

[dull ibex]

no

if you mean my team not a sand team

also harc and ghold abuse sand kinda anyways

[spiral ridge]

True

Curious what moves are you covering ghol from with cloak?

[dull ibex]

snarl which was a tofu thing but I like it anyways just incase

there is flinches

and fake out if I tera

[spiral ridge]

Okay yeah fair enough that’s what I was guessing but wanted to check

[dull ibex]

snarl gave my team some trouble against tofu so I decided if tofu could screw me with snarl

others could as welll

[spiral ridge]

Valid

[dull ibex]

my archaludon match up is stregthened by redirection

[craggy dagger]

it’s a bit like our covert lunala and others covert shadow rider

[spiral ridge]

Oh yeah ours does run covert 😭

[dull ibex]

this isnt hyper offense nvm

this is very close to bulky offense or just balance

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/701a75dd84221abf thoughts?

Prima, pala, and hydrei are my thoughts rn

[spiral ridge]

Prim could be pretty good

[craggy dagger]

cloud nineeeeee
or a manual weather

[molten oasis]

I like hydrei personally

[craggy dagger]

you’ll lose the hurricane + weather ball weather war without something to deter it

[solid frigate]

the Emoji is in sync with Sword of Justice theme so well-

[nocturne holly]

Yea me too

[nocturne holly]

who even has cloud nine 😭😭

[craggy dagger]

altaria and golduck

[chrome knot]

noovaaaaaaa

[craggy dagger]

hi

[chrome knot]

i won today ^-^

[craggy dagger]

ooo

pat pat-
gj

[chrome knot]

yyaaaay ty

that beats you biting me for no reason x)

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

woah

[lapis vortex]

Hi, i'm terrible at team building and i had a question, how do people usually counter Rillaboom? I was trying to make smth with Miraidon. I was also thinking about Raging Bolt but that would be a different team maybe. It's for a tournament im attending that will use regulation G

[mighty stump]

Miraidon variations include Hearthflame Ogerpon and Entei which tend to deal with Rillaboom handily.

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/757017ee49c49b7f how can I round off the team? I was thinking rilla and a water type for fwg but I thought I could use some redirection too. idk what set to run on hydreigon either

[mighty stump]

AV for bulk, Scope Lens if you have room to set up, LO and Specs are taken so there isn’t anything else really.

Dunno if you want to consider Scarf on Hyphlosion instead.

[dense latch]

I was using scarf for a bit on a different Hyphlosion team, I'm trying both out to see what helps the most

[mighty stump]

I’d probably run Farigiraf for anti-prio and TR mode which benefits both Typhlosion and Ursa respectively.

Electabuzz can be something to try as well to give you redirection + additional something into Rain

Then you can try a setup Hydrei instead

[dense latch]

i'm running a faster ursaluna for tailwind

[mighty stump]

I am aware. But it’s not faster in mirrored Tailwinds lol

[dense latch]

aight

[mighty stump]

You only ever hit 104/114 or whatever

Still slower than a Pelipper naturally.

[dense latch]

so farig electabuzz then?

[craggy dagger]

sorry-

[chrome knot]

noo dont be sorry

just haha revisiting your vancouver cosplay idea

[mighty stump]

Doesn’t hurt to give a shot.

[craggy dagger]

uhhhhhh

[chrome knot]

[craggy dagger]

i still need to decide who

[molten oasis]

[chrome knot]

ehehe im sure youll find out soonnnn

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-groudon-versus-vs-kyogre-vs-groudon-gif-23058156

i don’t remember this

[bold geode]

Tofu
Can I DM you regarding team question real fast

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dance-calyrex-gif-19192527

[dull ibex]

tofu i got help with the team

I ended up being told my team lacked synergy and we changed it ig

[dull ibex]

no

[mighty stump]

Sure

Whats it like now

[mighty stump]

Ok

[bold geode]

Already did

[dull ibex]

I was strongly advised against rock head head smash

do you prefer that team to my other one im very unsure

[molten oasis]

But funny

[bold geode]

I DMed you Tofu if you didn't see (sorry if I'm being annoying) just take your time lol

[bold geode]

I prefer the fact you dropped Bold Rillaboom

[dull ibex]

was asking tofu I dont care that you dont like bold rilla to be blunt

[bold geode]

But it's just unoptimal tbh
I get no attack but at least Adamant

[dull ibex]

dude ive had like three more iterations of the team that were adamant

[bold geode]

Miss out on key kos more often than not

[dull ibex]

im just a bit annoyed you are focused on something im not doing anymore

[bold geode]

Also I've seen those adaptations I'm fuckin with you

[dull ibex]

its annoying when im trying to get real advice

also lol im fighting a pallosand

[bold geode]

The real advice is what is this team built like
Is it HO? Or

[dull ibex]

I have no idea

I asked what its archetype was and was told its tailwind

and to just go play it

[bold geode]

Who said that?

[dull ibex]

r/vgc

im still in 2-3 vgc advice discords

[bold geode]

Ok so first mistake you listened to r/VGC

[dull ibex]

the discord gives fine advice

[solid frigate]

i'm just stuttered by that

[bold geode]

I just try to go to other Discord servers, usually thru Limitless tours or whatever (I'm in quite a few of em)

[dull ibex]

atleast its not the jungle discord

🙂

[bold geode]

But still like even then "this is TW, just go play it" is some shitty advice

[dull ibex]

I asked if it was balance or hyper offense

[bold geode]

They literally just treated you like a 40 yo mom does to her kids when it's time to drink her "grape juice"

[dull ibex]

they said its just tailwind then I said ok just tailwind is acceptable

"yeah just go play it"

the archetype is tail wind

[bold geode]

Yeah that's dumb AF imo

Doesn't sound like actual help to me

[dull ibex]

if its not balance or hyper offense it can be just a tailwind team

[bold geode]

Now that being said, it looks fine to me, I'd try Murk or Whims possibly as other TW options, Specs Goldie + Murk could probably be funny here

[dull ibex]

this was the team before changes

[bold geode]

Yeah something like that though with double Haze I'd do another item on Primarina tbh

[dull ibex]

it was orb before spray

ingame I have ice beam over haze

[bold geode]

Orb probably works or hell I saw someone succeed with Mystic Water

[dapper crag]

Move: Destiny Bond

Until the user's next move, if an opposing Pokemon's attack knocks the user out, that Pokemon faints as well, unless the attack was Doom Desire or Future Sight. Fails if the user used this move successfully as its last move, disregarding moves used through the Dancer Ability.

Type

Ghost

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

The z move version of this is so cool

[dull ibex]

ok low kick over protect

[nocturne holly]

What is the dengo spread for

[dull ibex]

uh I dont remember what 128 speed creeps

[nocturne holly]

I think that ties timid peli

[dull ibex]

max offense is funny

the dump into bulk

[nocturne holly]

So is it just leftover bulk

Yea try lorb for funnies

[dull ibex]

nope!

[nocturne holly]

😡

[dull ibex]

orb is taken

[nocturne holly]

lorb best dengo item

Imo

[dull ibex]

its lefties or cloak

[nocturne holly]

Mhm

[dull ibex]

if i was going to go offensive I would go specs

[nocturne holly]

uh ok not what I meant

How is ttars damage

I haven’t tried it yet

[mighty stump]

synergy where how is this improved

[dull ibex]

ig because the six is from a tourney?

rilla boom supports ghold a bit more?

hydreigon hits super hard

I do think I want a different tailwinder then murk

[bold geode]

Bravest bird

[dull ibex]

possibly 🤔

[solid frigate]

Talonflame be like in Gen 6

[dull ibex]

wait lacking synergy

half my team benefits from sand lmao

[bold geode]

I mean tbh you don't need whole team to be sand abusers
TTar is kinda the sand abuser itself

[dull ibex]

no it wasn't intentional

it just kinda happened harc and ghold benefit from sand directly or benefit from chip from sandstorm

tailwind is fine for my whole team except amoongus

and everything benefits from redirection

im not sure where I lack synergy

[dense latch]

🧂

they did ts for 5 turns

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/241e3db4cc186b08 had to repost

[mighty stump]

With that heavy investment id rather go max speed

on Gholdengo

[dull ibex]

that's fair

[mighty stump]

Modest 188+ is a lot

id still do Haze

[dull ibex]

I don't remember what it speed creeps

[mighty stump]

Especially since you have no Clear Smog on Amoong

[dull ibex]

I like haze

[mighty stump]

Remeber the good old days of Torrent Primarina

[dull ibex]

No that sounds like hell

[mighty stump]

it was Gen 8

You dont rememebr TR Prim?

[dull ibex]

I gotta admit ice beam might be lacking

[dull ibex]

OH MY GOD YES NVM

[solid frigate]

lol

[dull ibex]

Who did wolfey call the best ghost type?

[mighty stump]

ur mom

[dull ibex]

I fell asleep mid video and don't wanna rewatch lmao

[kindred cypress]

Incinaroar

[dull ibex]

Wolfey should name Tera X incin the best for every type

[solid frigate]

Mega Gengar?

[dull ibex]

That makes sense

It was pretty dominant for a bit

[solid frigate]

honestly Gengar Over Flutter is ehhh i guess

[mighty stump]

Flutter doesn’t have history

[solid frigate]

if its Gen 9,But in historical purpose

[dull ibex]

I agree with it mane is new

[solid frigate]

I WAS GONNA TYPE THAT LMAO

[dull ibex]

Rn mane is arguably the best Mon all Gen

[mighty stump]

I’m going to contend that with Raging Bolt

[dull ibex]

It's kept up in legendary formats

[kindred cypress]

Iron hands

[solid frigate]

bolt exist lmao

[dull ibex]

Iron hands was an mvp of early format

[dull ibex]

Yep I stand by what I said

Bolt is incredible though

Is gengar any good right now?

If no why not?

[solid frigate]

Didn't we talked about Gengar in VC Earlier about Tofu's Idea on Hypnosis Gengar

[dull ibex]

Is it even in sv

[mighty stump]

No Levitate No Perish Trap

Oof

[dull ibex]

Oh

Oh tofu I don't think my team is ho anymore BTW

I think I'm just janky balance at this point lmao

[bold geode]

Dragon type*

[solid frigate]

the Video is out

[bold geode]

Oh no it's a joke cuz apparently when he posted it, he had it as best Dragon type

They just fixed it quick so

Might I say his team is on it with videos
Hell I see every video change thumbnails once

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump today i was reminded that steel latios walls ground

[bold geode]

It walls Ground with Levitate anyways

[chrome knot]

lando

[bold geode]

Unless you talking Incarnate

[chrome knot]

specifically.

[bold geode]

Yeah there ya go

[chrome knot]

it showed up at local and i

went oh wait i cannot lose :3

[bold geode]

I think that's actually why people were using Latinas in Reg F cuz it could wall Lando I and end Reg E was when it started popping off

Also is it bad that my phone autocorrects Latias to Latinas now

[chrome knot]

it was yes

but latias sucked

[bold geode]

I think Prankster just still outclassed lmao

[bold geode]

HEY
Latinas time

[rustic mountain]

good one

[chrome knot]

yo guess what @rustic mountain

[rustic mountain]

u think imma fall for that? i invented that

[chrome knot]

im waiting

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

A dragapult just oneshotted my Volca wtf

How does that mon hits so hard

Like i know volca isnt specially bulky in the physical side but i thought it could take atleast one

[rustic mountain]

volc is like paper on defense and yea band dpult hits hard

[chrome knot]

scissors

[foggy lodge]

Got messed up with my reg g volc that is like super bulky

Anyways how do i beat Pelipper lol

[balmy glen]

win

[foggy lodge]

Too hard

[balmy glen]

rip

[chrome knot]

keanu zam was a success lmao

now i can stop worrying abt this shitty format

[tribal walrus]

yo comp pros who wants to help me cook

[nocturne holly]

💀

[chrome knot]

thats a terrifying opener ngl

[nocturne holly]

very

[bold geode]

What you tryna cook 👀

[tribal walrus]

im in a tourney, only mons not brought to worlds are allowed in reg g

[chrome knot]

ah.

[bold geode]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhuuhuuuuuuu

[tribal walrus]

so i've been working on a team but trying to find something niche LOL

[chrome knot]

uhm unless you have a way to see EVERY mon used at worlds there will be some blank spaces

[nocturne holly]

Brother that’s like every Mon ever

Or is it just like top cut or something

[tribal walrus]

ya i have a huge spreadsheet of it

[chrome knot]

whats the cut off

oh its all 700 players teams…?

[bold geode]

Yeah that's very tough unless you use like fucking Cosmog lmao

[tribal walrus]

just like any mon brought to worlds is not allowed

[nocturne holly]

lmao

[cyan smelt]

Uh oh mod in comp chat

[tribal walrus]

there's a lot more than you think

[chrome knot]

thats kinda tough

[nocturne holly]

yea you’re cooked

[chrome knot]

every okay - decent range mon im trying to think of ik was played

[nocturne holly]

Was pala played

Palafin

[chrome knot]

good shout maybe not

[tribal walrus]

im currently running meow/zacian-hero/milo/aboma/latias/spectrier

palafin is allowed

[nocturne holly]

Ohhhgh

yea honestly idk if we can help without the list of banned mons

[chrome knot]

im gonna keep it a stack

surely there are better choices allowed

[nocturne holly]

Lol

[tribal walrus]

oh no im running away

[chrome knot]

also was there seriously 0 zacians

[nocturne holly]

0 hero

[tribal walrus]

one sec i can grab a screenshot of everything allowed

[chrome knot]

grant went there and played zac/drago no ?

[nocturne holly]

There were crown forms

[chrome knot]

wtf did grant play

[nocturne holly]

Like w/o sword

with sword

Stinky

[chrome knot]

tf

[foggy lodge]

Can you share it? Im curious honestly lol

[chrome knot]

thats not a different pokemon

[nocturne holly]

Rusted sword changes form

[chrome knot]

species clause

[nocturne holly]

idk the rules they’re playing

[chrome knot]

would you put 2 urshifus on ur team if different styles?

[nocturne holly]

Technically I think changes during battle?

[tribal walrus]

this is everything allowed, everything else banned

[nocturne holly]

Honestly

[bold geode]

2 Zacian made day 2 btw

[tribal walrus]

but also nfes are allowed, so stuff like torracat is actually valid

[bold geode]

Grant and Kian

[nocturne holly]

That’s lowley not too bad

[tribal walrus]

im not screenshotting all the nfes

[chrome knot]

you can cook a hybrid lilligant sun team out of this

[nocturne holly]

Nvm bruh that’s hard

[foggy lodge]

I suppose this is only masters

[nocturne holly]

Banded pult

[chrome knot]

i see slither wing and fat lilligant this could be doable LOL

[bold geode]

No one brought Lugia?

[cyan smelt]

Are you telling me toedscruel was used at worlds

[tribal walrus]

the main issue is everyone i've practiced against, everyone is running either kyurem white or some ridiculous TR team

[foggy lodge]

Cuz i remember that a pair of Eternatus got a high placement at seniors

[tribal walrus]

i've seen one lugia in practice so far

[nocturne holly]

Kommo, Palafin, pult, spectrier are all good

[chrome knot]

nvm you got no sun setter

[tribal walrus]

the top restricted mons in our format has been zacian, kyurem white and dusk mane

[bold geode]

No this is available

[nocturne holly]

Chomp gengaretwgross

[forest arrow]

Wasn’t suicune on one of the Zac teams?

[nocturne holly]

That’s honestly not too bad

[tribal walrus]

i have to be careful with any of the dragon types because everyone is running insane ice/fairy stuff

[bold geode]

Ninetales

[nocturne holly]

9tails

[chrome knot]

i did not see that

ok hold on hold in

[foggy lodge]

lando therian had 0 use at worlds lmao

[nocturne holly]

Is decidueye hisui available?

[tribal walrus]

yes

[foggy lodge]

Never thought that would happen

[bold geode]

Wait you can use Lando T? Damn that's tight

[tribal walrus]

So like people are running snow and tr teams, or the recent asspull i battled tonight was a fezandipiti that completely cooked me

[nocturne holly]

Yea lando t is prob a must

[tribal walrus]

lando i've been using but problem is it gets cooked by everything else

too much scald/blizzard use

and willo

[chrome knot]

ninetales slither wing lilligant banded lando t +2

[nocturne holly]

hmmmmm yea that meta is probably goofy

[tribal walrus]

my friends have been running competitive milo (so am i) and primarily SpA to deal with intim

[nocturne holly]

You could also go poli rain with Palafin

[tribal walrus]

i was looking into rain asw to deal with a few things but im not sure how well itll work

[bold geode]

Both Zapdos are available too
Also Hitmontop low-key could be nice if you're struggling with Blizzard
Fake Out, Intimidate and Wide Guard

[chrome knot]

@tribal walrus if ur still stuck by tomorrow ill write up a sun team when i wake up

[foggy lodge]

Zapdos is pretty good

[tribal walrus]

here's the current cook

ill delete that in a bit bc text wall

[chrome knot]

you have a lot of tools available that can recreate ugartes jumpluff/torkoal slither wing team

[tribal walrus]

latias and spec have also been swapped with pult, lando and mimikyu

[bold geode]

Zacian can probably wear ClAm tbh

[tribal walrus]

but i dropped mimikyu after using zac

[nocturne holly]

Sd zac would actually cook

With CA

Then throw on rain with it cause zac likes rain

[tribal walrus]

i tried sd but lack of protect killed me 😭 it's such a weird format

[nocturne holly]

Sd over cc

[forest arrow]

Zac likes rain in crown form

[nocturne holly]

And iron head over tera blast imo

[bold geode]

Nah SD over Tera Blast

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

oh it’s just fairy

Yea honestly either tera blast or cc

[tribal walrus]

should i make other swaps to have fire dps somewhere else

we have like a serious lack of fire types in the format too

[forest arrow]

Was heatran brought to worlds?

[tribal walrus]

yeah

pretty sure

[nocturne holly]

Wbt archaludon

[tribal walrus]

arch also went to worlds

[foggy lodge]

I think i saw that

[balmy glen]

man it took me a full hour but I finally got my 100% acc baltimore gaming

[foggy lodge]

An Archa that lived a collisioun course lol

[tribal walrus]

lemme see if i can find some of the ridiculous teams ive played in the past few days just to give yall an idea

[nocturne holly]

Neutral def?

And was it in sun

[balmy glen]

that auto dies if its in sun

even if +1 most Korai kill

lol

[nocturne holly]

oh

Yay

[tribal walrus]

blegh now i cant find now that im looking

[plain drum]

Oh hey Grove

Good luck with whatever you're working on

[tribal walrus]

im cooked

[plain drum]

RIP

[tribal walrus]

i need something incredibly stupid that nobody's going to see coming

[plain drum]

Sounds like a fun strat

[balmy glen]

For what

[tribal walrus]

tourney im in

[balmy glen]

What tour

[tribal walrus]

any worlds mon is banned

just with friends

[balmy glen]

reg g?

[tribal walrus]

yeah

[balmy glen]

Just use Kyruem

[tribal walrus]

this is the allowed list

im using zacian over kyurem

[balmy glen]

Kyruem white is broken

[foggy lodge]

Eternatus is an option imo

[tribal walrus]

yeah everyone and their mom is using it based on who ive practiced w

[balmy glen]

Kyruem white is the best restricted on that list

[tribal walrus]

im running a tailwind team with milo & aboma for snow and playing against TR

[balmy glen]

Get a sunny day going why are u playing snow with no Kyruem white

[tribal walrus]

i agree but i havent been able to make it work well

[balmy glen]

Dragapult is nasty also

[tribal walrus]

i've been swapping it in and out yeah

[strange fjord]

Just did my first local (also second in-person tour in like 7 years)
got 5th
but at least i won my first round on stream

[tribal walrus]

only problem is 40 million ice types

havent made a set i can work with well enough

[balmy glen]

Sylveon and Dragapult is fire

[tribal walrus]

ooo i havent looked at sylveon yet

[balmy glen]

As long as u beat Kyruem White u should automatically win your little league thing

[tribal walrus]

zacian wipes it out so i havent had too many issues

[balmy glen]

Man really like no follow me users in there lol

[foggy lodge]

Congrats!!

[tribal walrus]

i might look into pult more

spectrier has been fun but idk if ill stick with it

[chrome knot]

little league😭

[strange fjord]

ty gonna do another one next week if i can cause it was fun

[chrome knot]

hell yeah

locals are awesome

[mighty stump]

Solgaleo gogogo

[timber falcon]

Oh wait lmao I can do that

[knotty mirage]

Can i get opinion on this team ? trying to push ultra ball with caly s just doesn't work really well too much trick room and snow bs
https://pokepast.es/28d4b565deb4e7d6

I don't really want to use amoongus too much people using grass tera or safety google and sleep is really unpredictable

[fleet topaz]

Hello all! New to this Discord. Was looking to chat about competitive Pokemon because its kinda the only thing I have not done in the Pokemon games... Played since original Red, I have beaten Sw/Sh and S/V twice each even with a limitation rules on myself for the 2nd play through. So I want to dive into somthing else. Working on a team currently for the Reg H rule set coming next month. This is what I have so far. Its a Trick Room Torkal/Dondozo team with Toadscruel sub in for Amongus since it knows TR and can do Amongus shenanigans. WDYT?
https://pokepast.es/70c5ae4e20a7a3a7

[timber falcon]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2187374013 i need an opinion on how this game went. I went 4-0 and there arent many flaws i can see. Did i make a mistake my opponent didnt account for?

[timber falcon]

if youre new to competetive pokemon i highly reccomend some research of the pokemon in the current meta and looking up some guides before making a team

one of the things i regret not doing upon my first time playing, wasted a lot of time i couldve spent learning

There should be help in pins

[fleet topaz]

is there a link to Meta Reg H yet?

[timber falcon]

you can check sites like mauslab, pikalytics and munchstats for the list of top used mons

[fleet topaz]

cool thanks

[dapper crag]

Who wants to
Join my competition? Double battles start from 08/25 15:00 to 15:59 UTC Code: 4R6D82

[mighty stump]

Music to my ears

[timber falcon]

i get embarrased when i think of all the smeargle glazing i did

[mighty stump]

Monke said this

Drago said this

You said this

The recurring theme

[mighty stump]

At least you realised

Lol

Having fun with mons is great and all but having a method just streamlines the process

[timber falcon]

yeah diving into whatever i wanted without elaboration didnt work out

lol

[mighty stump]

Thinking about it in my head, Swampert/Ttar might work

[cyan smelt]

time for me to read the pins then

[mighty stump]

It’s not like you need perfect understanding of the theory to be good at the game lol

You can have solid understanding and still not execute it

It’s just building confidence in your play and your team and being informed helps that greatly

[cyan smelt]

i'd like to be able to really understand the basics without just randomly slapping mons together because they look cool

[mighty stump]

I’m just being anal most of the time

[timber falcon]

i had to look up to see if that word had 2 meanings

[mighty stump]

Like

Pedantic and specific to an annoying degree on purpose

Majority of the time it’s just for information

Sometimes it’s cause I find it funny

100% of the time it’s cause I like yapping about VGC

Plus to add on a previous “its not the deep” comment that’s usually cause suckers don’t know what It’s like to care about something

[timber falcon]

in CTS is it right to assume whim always has encore

i keep losing games to them encoring my sinistcha in tr

[solid frigate]

Understanding the Movepool is key

Sometimes i saw Taunt or Light Screen

[mighty stump]

Encore is common yea

[timber falcon]

so i either run tera dark or swap immediately after tr

cause this shouldve only happened once

[mighty stump]

Lesson not learned yet huh

[knotty mirage]

If i'm on agains't caly ice and scarfshifu mirror is it better to u turn into their caly ice and set up trick room or just attack the caly ice with surging and use glacial Lance ?

[mighty stump]

That's dependant on what your line is lol. Some will just spam coaching in the mirror and keep clicking glacial lance.

Imo if you click TR there is a risk the other Caly is still slower/speed tie anyways and you lose out on some traded damage and they'll end up having momentum

[knotty mirage]

Coaching on scarshifu ?

[mighty stump]

Yes?

[knotty mirage]

Oh it just i'm not sure of using status move on choice mon

[mighty stump]

You can probably work on identifying relevant situations and as to why Coaching can be good on Scarfshifu. Sometimes in scenarios like against Raging Bolt you dodge Thunderclap, buff Calyrex, and effectively increases damage output from your carry in a single turn

That sort of thing

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i guess that makes sense but don't think i want to give my scarfshifu coaching a little bit too risky tbh

[mighty stump]

You can switch.

[knotty mirage]

I don't think i'm really good at switching games because most of times it just end up making one of my mon fooder but oh well i will consider it thanks for the info

[timber falcon]

wym

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

Sure

[zinc totem]

i dont know why but im in live with meow all over again https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2187429308-kwox63vrqy2vzvklcmuw7n1isvjhlrfpw , https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2187430581-1jdaf8b6q7i54wyg9fmu7roxna44idopw

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump

[mighty stump]

Whats up

[gentle badger]

which version of urishifu is the OP one?

[dull ibex]

both

they're both super high damage that always crit and hit through protect

which one you use is team dependent

[knotty mirage]

Depend on the format i guess but i'm leaning toward rapidshifu is better

[dull ibex]

no it doesnt, its team dependant

[gentle badger]

rapid is dark, right?

[dull ibex]

rapid is water

[knotty mirage]

No the water one

[dull ibex]

you can use dark as well

[gentle badger]

I only have one kubfu

[dull ibex]

then it depends on your team

[mighty stump]

Get another

[dull ibex]

I actually agree with tofu get another kubfu

I was able to get two with one copy of swsh

[gentle badger]

can't. only had one treat

[mighty stump]

Trade.

[dull ibex]

what is a treat?

[gentle badger]

with what

[dull ibex]

is this a dlc thig

[knotty mirage]

Yeah it is

[dull ibex]

ask around dude.

[mighty stump]

Pick something you believe is high demand and/or equivalent.

[knotty mirage]

The treat that given by snacksworth to spawn kubfu

[dull ibex]

oh theres a way to get urshi in dlc thats pretty cool

[chrome knot]

gn im goin to bed

[dull ibex]

I use swsh to get both of mine

before I sold my copy of swsh atleast

[mighty stump]

The answer is just too contextual/subjective to "Which form should I pick?"

[knotty mirage]

Yeah you need to finish the DLC first tho to makes snacksworth appear

[mighty stump]

So get both.

[mighty stump]

Gn

[knotty mirage]

And best thing about SV kubfu you can catch it any ball you want not stuck on pokeball

[dull ibex]

Nice

[chrome knot]

my beast ball 0spatk female

[knotty mirage]

I catch my kubfu on sport ball kinda hellish tho especially when soft reseting for female one

[mighty stump]

Sports Ball? Kubfu?

[gentle badger]

I caught it in Timer Ball

[dull ibex]

is there a way to get calyrex in dlc?

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i mean why not from all apriball sport ball is my most favorite

[knotty mirage]

You mean on SV sadly no you can get the horses

[chrome knot]

no

[knotty mirage]

But the caly nope

[dull ibex]

that is so stupid.

[mighty stump]

Fair. I just dislike the catch/release effect

[dull ibex]

I fear for players without swsh lmao

[chrome knot]

skill issue

[dull ibex]

real

[bold geode]

Hey should Talon outspeed Jolly Ape or Jolly Maus?

[mighty stump]

It should outspeed Whimsicott.

[knotty mirage]

The animation does have same effect as friend and safari which sucks but i only care about the ball design anyway

[dull ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HRdB0iZ4C8 Solid video for my WEEGEECEE players

I like that professor chi-yu is wearing choice specs

[knotty mirage]

At least in next gen caly would be not that bad to deal with because no tera

If caly would even available on next gen that is

[bold geode]

Thx, idk Cloak sets lol
Do they go max attack?

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

Depends.

But I'd just aim to outspeed Timid Whims and go from there lol

[bold geode]

Ah
I just gonna go max attack and dump
Leaves 76 EVs for bulk, but outspeeds Whims and whacks shit too so

[solid frigate]

is timid whims 185 Raw Speed?

[bold geode]

184

[solid frigate]

Close enough lol

[bold geode]

Was wanting to try and go Adamant, but Talonflame under speeds Jolly Maus by 1 at Adamant

[molten oasis]

13 hour shift

[fleet topaz]

i am with ya, doing a 12 myself

[solid frigate]

so Jolly Talonflame

[dull ibex]

I need knock off 😔 trade chat won't dm me 😭

[bold geode]

Not a trading channel