competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/plush-plushie-spin-spinny-spinning-gif-22905344

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Yeah ignore us abusing the 8 ball

[delicate talon]

Does anyone have pokemon sword or shield

[solid frigate]

is it tradin-

[bold geode]

Are you trying to trade

[delicate talon]

Yes

[bold geode]

#trading_swsh

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

Does anyone look at whats above the chat

[solid frigate]

yep Ruan Mei's Reaction is my Reaction rn

[craggy dagger]

the channel description is invisible to mobile users unless they click something

[solid frigate]

me rn

[bold geode]

-8ball is reading hard

[gentle crag]

is reading hard
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again

[bold geode]

-8ball is reading hard

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger time sensitive guess what

[gentle crag]

is reading hard
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[molten oasis]

Lyco used specs specs kyurem sucks @solid frigate

[bold geode]

8ball gets it

[craggy dagger]

please take trading to #1112832566261731328 or #trading_swsh

[craggy dagger]

time what-?

[delicate talon]

I'm trying to trade for a ash hat Pikachu

[chrome knot]

chicken butt

[molten oasis]

-8ball should I play anti meta in reg h

[gentle crag]

should I play anti meta in reg h
:8ball: You may rely on it

[spiral ridge]

I was about to say time sensitive chicken butt 😭

[bold geode]

#trading_swsh

[solid frigate]

he beat me once and i beat him in the Semi Finals and i won the tournament with Swiss Round 3-2 (5 Round Swiss)

[molten oasis]

YES I CAN PLAY TO MY STRENTGHS

[spiral ridge]

Fucking called it let’s go

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-excited-explode-happy-spongebob-squarepants-gif-12971731

[molten oasis]

Uh yea, specs kyurem still sucks lol

[solid frigate]

-8ball Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H

[gentle crag]

Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H
:8ball: Reply hazy try again

[craggy dagger]

when are you gonna show your sv character-
you said you would

[bold geode]

Yeah Drago have fun with my WG Zama

[molten oasis]

-8ball should I play snow in reg h

[gentle crag]

should I play snow in reg h
:8ball: Outlook good

[solid frigate]

-8ball Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H

[gentle crag]

Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H
:8ball: Yes

[silver ravine]

-8ball Should I build a team around Mewtwo?

[delicate talon]

Does anyone have a ash hat Pikachu

[solid frigate]

OH GOD NO IRON LEAVES

[molten oasis]

So I can play snow and zacian but I can’t play kyurem wtf

[craggy dagger]

can we slow down with the 8ball commands

[solid frigate]

-8ball Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H besides Iron Leaves

[gentle crag]

Should i make Future Paradox Sword of Justice in Reg H besides Iron Leaves
:8ball: My sources say no

[molten oasis]

Eat hh fusion flare

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

I wanna die

[bold geode]

-8ball should we slow down with the 8 ball commands

[gentle crag]

should we slow down with the 8 ball commands
:8ball: Most likely

[chrome knot]

i thought i did what the heck

[bold geode]

Damn
Aight guys we gotta stop

[molten oasis]

-8ball is monke correc

[gentle crag]

is monke correc
:8ball: Ask again later

[molten oasis]

-8ball is monke correct

[gentle crag]

is monke correct
:8ball: Without a doubt

[craggy dagger]

awee cute

[molten oasis]

Fuck

[bold geode]

-8ball should Drago learn to spell

[gentle crag]

should Drago learn to spell
:8ball: Don't count on it

[molten oasis]

LMAO

[bold geode]

LMAO

[craggy dagger]

but mine's better xD

[chrome knot]

WHAT

[delicate talon]

Does anyone have sword or shield

[craggy dagger]

i havent changed mine in forever xD

[bold geode]

I need to take another picture

[lofty tartan]

This is the wrong place for trading. Go to #trading_swsh

[molten oasis]

-8ball should monke fix his mic

[gentle crag]

should monke fix his mic
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[bold geode]

@delicate talon you need to go to #trading_swsh for that

[molten oasis]

Alright monke buy a real mic before we vc again

[bold geode]

-8ball I told Drago I fixed that problem right

[gentle crag]

I told Drago I fixed that problem right
:8ball: Don't count on it

[craggy dagger]

am blue

[delicate talon]

Ok

[molten oasis]

lol

[solid frigate]

oh yeah this is my character in SV

I asked my friend to Draw them for stickers

[spiral ridge]

Dude please your mic is shit monkey

[bold geode]

I use earbuds now bitch fuck you

[bold geode]

Your mom

[chrome knot]

cute

[molten oasis]

-8ball should monke used a headset instead of earbuds

[gentle crag]

should monke used a headset instead of earbuds
:8ball: Very doubtful

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

-8ball should Drago sugondeez nuts

[gentle crag]

should Drago sugondeez nuts
:8ball: You may rely on it

[solid frigate]

-8ball should Monke Use Earbuds

[gentle crag]

should Monke Use Earbuds
:8ball: It is decidedly so

[bold geode]

I do rely on it you right

[molten oasis]

-should monke go skewer slide

[craggy dagger]

oh i have this-

[molten oasis]

Dammit

[chrome knot]

woaahhh

[solid frigate]

Skewer What

[chrome knot]

old me i think

[solid frigate]

lookin good

[craggy dagger]

that’s u yes

[molten oasis]

The skewer slide

It cuts you a lot

[craggy dagger]

and me-
we’re missing someone though-
that right side feels empty

[bold geode]

-8ball are we jorked now

[gentle crag]

are we jorked now
:8ball: Yes

[bold geode]

LMAO

[molten oasis]

He hit the skewer slide wrong

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-up-sonic-shadow-lythero-gif-4385795524224573380

[molten oasis]

-8ball should I run a9 Kyurem and zacian

[gentle crag]

should I run a9 Kyurem and zacian
:8ball: Yes, definitely

[chrome knot]

i think the other side of the camera had a third person fuckin with their cosmetics

[molten oasis]

alright it’s decided I run snow in reg h

[craggy dagger]

eh-?

[solid frigate]

-8ball should i run Rain Team in Reg H

[gentle crag]

should i run Rain Team in Reg H
:8ball: Yes

[solid frigate]

Ok YESSSSSS

[molten oasis]

-8ball should I run incineroar

[gentle crag]

should I run incineroar
:8ball: Don't count on it

[craggy dagger]

ENOUGH WITH 8BALL

[chrome knot]

luna was also in this union circle

[molten oasis]

Alright guys no incineroar

-8ball should we stop 8balling

[gentle crag]

should we stop 8balling
:8ball: It is decidedly so

[molten oasis]

The ball has spoken

[craggy dagger]

oaaah-
wait wasn’t she just-
not paying attention

[chrome knot]

that too perhaps

[craggy dagger]

either way-

[molten oasis]

Luna exists? lol

[craggy dagger]

is ok

[bold geode]

-8ball do I give Nova hugs

[gentle crag]

do I give Nova hugs
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[chrome knot]

we SHOULD redo pictures

[craggy dagger]

take that back-

[molten oasis]

I just haven’t seen Luna in a minute

[bold geode]

@craggy dagger I gib hug

[craggy dagger]

she’s just been busy

[spiral ridge]

Luna is doing pretty well :)

[molten oasis]

Monke we must stop 8balling

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[chrome knot]

luna is a goober

[molten oasis]

So are you

[solid frigate]

-8ball Should i run Chi Yu

[gentle crag]

Should i run Chi Yu
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[solid frigate]

yey

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-goober-spotted-jarvis-goober-spotted-iron-man-goober-spotted-gif-16236198662133314025

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-horizons-glim-gif-15868672636103083305

[molten oasis]

Nova Emma and Luna are the goober trio

[bold geode]

You talk to Luna? Whhaaaaaaa

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

Terapagos after getting collision Coursed

[craggy dagger]

anyways-
can we move on to something else…

[chrome knot]

how did i get put into that group of sillybeans

[solid frigate]

pfft

[molten oasis]

You guys talk regularly Luna’s a goober

I’d consider Nova a goober based on the things she used in vgc

Therefore, goober trio

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-gloogy-pokemon-gif-14770879743161183760

[molten oasis]

(Idk how often you guys talk I just see it in here every so often)

[solid frigate]

probably more than us

[molten oasis]

Monke and I are the stupid duo

[bold geode]

DAMN GUILLERMO CASTILLA IS OLD

[solid frigate]

Isn't Doggo Duo cuz you use Zacian and he uses Zama

[bold geode]

See you're just stupid
I'm dumb AF

[molten oasis]

Don’t rope me in with a zama player like that

[solid frigate]

I mean I'm just here a loner i guess

[bold geode]

I mean Zac is female and Drago is my bbgirl so it works

[solid frigate]

PFFT

[molten oasis]

Zacian supremacy (ik it’s worse)

I went too far with the goober joke oops

[solid frigate]

meanwhile me;Just a Loner without in any groups

[molten oasis]

Yea I wouldn’t say that

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-angry-birds-movie-red-all-by-myself-by-myself-alone-gif-22315105

[molten oasis]

I’m a loner when actually building teams

[nocturne holly]

I can be your friend 😊

[molten oasis]

Typically do most of everything by myself

probably due to always using anti/off meta

[solid frigate]

yey

[nocturne holly]

jk go home loser

[molten oasis]

PFFF

[nocturne holly]

jk jk jkkkkk

[solid frigate]

Insert Unovan Legendary Theme

[nocturne holly]

type shit

[molten oasis]

Should have been ruinous theme smh

[solid frigate]

no because of this

[nocturne holly]

Do you guys actually listen to themes when you play tho

[molten oasis]

That’s a gen 9 pokemon

[craggy dagger]

yes you are-
no offense-
calling me stupid with niche when you play double weather zac

[molten oasis]

Often

[solid frigate]

that is made from a Gen 5 Mon

[molten oasis]

MONKE PLAYS DOUBLE WEATHER NOT ME

DONT ROPE ME IN WITH THE INFERIOR ZAC PLAYER

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Theme,Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon Theme,AI Professor Theme

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

HEEEEEYYYY
Lemme have fun damn it

[nocturne holly]

bro I just turn on Spotify and mute the damn game

[spiral ridge]

You made me use that Ray team fuck you 🖕

[bold geode]

I let you do dumb shit now Nova, lemme do dumb shit too

[solid frigate]

i just use Youtube

[nocturne holly]

Yt Music?

[bold geode]

I am legally obligated to diagnose you with skill issue

It's Stage 4 wallahi you're finished

[molten oasis]

Nah you’re better than that

Use real shit

[spiral ridge]

YOU TOLD ME EVERY MOVE TO DO

[solid frigate]

normal YT i ain't have money for it

[bold geode]

Nah

Dumb shit nice too

[cyan smelt]

Why is torrent obsessed with the future paradoxes

[molten oasis]

Damn you’re the reason we’re the stupid duo

[bold geode]

I'll use good shit and I'll also use dumb shit

[spiral ridge]

I brought Ray like once and the one game I brought it it got fucked monke 😭

[bold geode]

I mean have you seen yourself

[nocturne holly]

I’m thinking of copping Spotify premium tbh

[bold geode]

Skill issue

[molten oasis]

Brother I do well with off meta

[spiral ridge]

You told me every move to do

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/Wv2zj373It4?si=vNxknyJicaj6BjaX

But when i use none of the Restricteds or just forgot i use this

[bold geode]

I did fine with Ray

[molten oasis]

Haven’t seen you top cut of get top 500 with off meta

[bold geode]

You didn't do that every turn

[molten oasis]

[spiral ridge]

Brother in Christ it was you playing the Ray I was just the vessel

[nocturne holly]

Sounds like a theme first line

[spiral ridge]

Every turn I had Ray and what mons to bring I did 😭

[solid frigate]

i mean just hear it its a banger

[bold geode]

Fuck you, I'm gonna fight my way to an international and place 1 higher than you just to fuck with you

[solid frigate]

-8ball Should i use Dreams of an Absolution (LB vs JS Remix) as my Battle Theme?

[gentle crag]

Should i use Dreams of an Absolution (LB vs JS Remix) as my Battle Theme?
:8ball: Yes

[bold geode]

Well
Your mom

[solid frigate]

Rotom has some taste

[molten oasis]

Yk fair enough that was harsh lol

[solid frigate]

kek

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-year-of-shadow-shadow-bongo-cat-meme-shadow-bongo-cat-bongo-cat-gif-13577975347769213753

[molten oasis]

Gotta close now

Gonna climb with Kyurem tonight

[solid frigate]

idk what i am doing

[bold geode]

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-waiting-impatient-gif-13690433

[cyan smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/butt-slap-gif-15543628

[solid frigate]

wait thats a bit innapropriate

[cyan smelt]

It's fine, essi used to spam it all the time

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/volcarona-my-beloved-gif-21352875

[balmy glen]

goat

[foggy lodge]

I love it

Hey Keanu can i ask you something?

[balmy glen]

sure

[molten oasis]

Volcarona best bug

[foggy lodge]

Is Volca a good pick in this team? https://pokepast.es/ce22dcf830ff0df9

I use it mainly for the Zama mirror since most i find are ID and tend to win the mirror against mine xd

[mighty stump]

I would use the Iron Crystal battle theme

[balmy glen]

its ok ig

getting rid of latios on that variant kinda sucks tho

[solid frigate]

Iron Crystal Iron Bundle Battle Theme is Goated

[foggy lodge]

Yeah i noticed that some match ups like urshifu or ogerpon suck

And is like damn i don't have anything to tank them xd

[mighty stump]

[molten oasis]

Very cool emoji

[jade dust]

Damn I dropped from top 500

I didn’t play ranked today and I just got on online. I’ve been grinding for my rain team

I understand that if you don’t play often you drop but that was more than 400 placements

[bold geode]

Oh no
The Snorlax dab is back

[modern harbor]

they knew what they were doing when they made KNOCK off locked behind dlc.....

[rustic mountain]

finally got some games in on cart 5-1 to mball only loss was cuz i had disconnected

[molten oasis]

LOL

you're just better

[rustic mountain]

better then wat?

[junior patrol]

Does anyone have a regigigas team saved? I can't seem to find one

[molten oasis]

uh

better than your opponents

i think i read it wrong

[jade dust]

Lmao someone canceled a match before I got any KO

I used trick room cress and parting shot incin into my caly ice, then he just gave up

[modern harbor]

guys !!!!

especially Shrekers and TorrentAegisVGC, THANK YOU FOR THE HELP!!!!

i hope it was a little nice to see a noob like me make some progress haha

i played a really good final game against a matchup i usually struggle against (koraidon/bolt) so i thought i deserved it :)))

[mighty stump]

Good job

Congrats

[solid frigate]

ah you are learning

[next stump]

congrats!

[jade dust]

Congrats girl, I’m proud of you

[fathom geyser]

Why is vgc not on pokemon showdown

[mighty stump]

It is lol

[fathom geyser]

Am I blind why do i not see it

[mighty stump]

Probably

There is also a search function.

[fathom geyser]

It doesn't show up

[mighty stump]

[fathom geyser]

Pokemon showdown out here gaslighting me into thinking that vgc never existed lmao

It's all a fever dream

Competitive pokemon, be serious no-one ever would play pokemon that way

Anyway, I've been out of the loop for the last 6 months, what changed?

[mighty stump]

Restricted format.

[fathom geyser]

What restrictoids are frequently used?

[mighty stump]

https://www.munchstats.com/

Mainly the Calys, Miraidon, Zama

[fathom geyser]

Mienshao at 4%

Woah

I love this gen

Yet another one of my favorite mons being played at 1500+ elo

Is it a account restriction thing?

VGC doesn't even show up on my 3 year old account that I use on my phone

[dapper gorge]

is spiritomb a good competitive pokemon?

[fathom geyser]

I highly doubt that it is strong currently

[dapper gorge]

what is best moveset for it?

[jade dust]

Close enough, I’ll continue playing tomorrow

I’m almost back to top 500

Those that didn’t believe in my team

[pearl wind]

chandelure

[jade dust]

Zamasenta check

[next stump]

congrats 🙂 what's the win/loss record?

[jade dust]

Well before I stared using this team I had like 1 to 2 more wins than loses

This is how it is now

It’s not the optimal team but I make it work. I still struggle a lot to Lunala teams. Fuck I hate those stall forever lunala teams

Kyoger, zama, and mira teams don’t give me trouble tho. Caly shadow and lunala are problematic too. Caly ice dittos sometimes are hard if they have rillaboom

[charred saddle]

holy shit

200 games

thats crazy

[bold geode]

Even if you're high, that team is still atrocious

[jade dust]

Well I wanted for one season to use my dream team, and it worked well. I plan using a proper rain team next month

But I had a lot of fun with this team

Swampert checking those water spouts and pressuring miraidon and iron hands

Chandelure giving Zamasenta nightmares

[mighty stump]

Someone should call OTOT

[jade dust]

And cresselia being a pain in the ass to deal with for miraidon

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu

[mighty stump]

bye

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/bianca-andreescu-return-of-serve-tennis-wta-gif-25444002

[charred saddle]

wheres ur tranq bullet tofu

[bold geode]

[bold geode]

Oh I throw that back

[charred saddle]

tranq him quick, i think he's going rabid

[mighty stump]

Yeah, true

[bold geode]

I'd throw it back

[chrome knot]

ur throwing it back ??

[craggy dagger]

what-

[chrome knot]

good morning

[craggy dagger]

good morning emma :3

[chrome knot]

haaaiii

[craggy dagger]

go back to sleep

[chrome knot]

im going to work nova

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger say aahhh

[craggy dagger]

?????

[chrome knot]

want chicken nugget?

i work at mcdonalds silly

[craggy dagger]

[next stump]

ay I just saw your reddit post, I can ask some friends if they have spectator passes still

how much are you hoping to pay for all 3 days?

[balmy glen]

I want ice cream

[junior patrol]

Can I show you guys the regigigas team I built in showdown and you rate it?

[mighty stump]

I had a chocolate cone fro mcdonalds just before my house call today

[mighty stump]

What format?

[junior patrol]

Regulation G

[mighty stump]

Doubles or Singles*?

[junior patrol]

Doubles

[nocturne holly]

Does booster Bolt run the same spread as av

[wispy spade]

if you sleep talk a priority move, does it get priority?

[nocturne holly]

yea

actually idk

[dapper crag]

Move: Sleep Talk

One of the user's known moves, besides this move, is selected for use at random. Fails if the user is not asleep. The selected move does not have PP deducted from it, and can currently have 0 PP. This move cannot select Assist, Beak Blast, Belch, Bide, Blazing Torque, Celebrate, Chatter, Combat Torque, Copycat, Dynamax Cannon, Focus Punch, Hold Hands, Magical Torque, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nature Power, Noxious Torque, Shell Trap, Sketch, Sleep Talk, Struggle, Uproar, Wicked Torque, or any two-turn move.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[rustic mountain]

sleep talk itself has no priority so id say no

if its like prankster sleep talk grimm for instance its already going first anyway

[wispy spade]

i see, thank you

[nocturne holly]

Yea he’s right it

interesting move
Would tr be able to not be last then?

[wispy spade]

t1: Iron Hands volt switch, Amoongoose spore IH
t2: Calyrex sleep talk trick room
t3: lose

[glad imp]

😂😂😂

[charred saddle]

different spread

iirc booster had more spA investment and lower spD

and bulk overall is lower

[wispy spade]

hold on... if you were to trickroom as the first pokemon, would dynamic speed make that change immediately?

[charred saddle]

i dont get what u mean

TR will always go last

[uncut helm]

I know this is small but im finally winning against legendaries in ranked battles eith my ev trained sharpness gallade and snowcloak spiker froslass

[mighty stump]

No, since it’s not speed changes

Its a reversal of the turn order

[mighty stump]

I just use roughly the same lol

[nocturne holly]

Yea I figure cause like 4 sp def is all you really need with av and I calced to live glacial lance and then almost max sp atk

[nocturne holly]

tr always goes last

[mighty stump]

Ya’ll probably don’t know about +1 Priority TR then

[wispy spade]

i thought it did speed stuff, that's why regieleki bug existed

[mighty stump]

Lol

[wispy spade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/jimtpl/on_regieleki_trickroom_and_electroball_damage/

[nocturne holly]

what the fuck

[mighty stump]

Its a reversal of turn order based off speed, not actual speed changes

[mighty stump]

Gen 8 gimmick

Dynamax Max Guard using the TR button but then use Riolu to Prankster Copycat and it guarantees TR at +1 Prio

[nocturne holly]

Oh damn

I never knew copycat copied the base move of a max move

[mighty stump]

It wasn’t very good, mostly situational

Esp since you used up like a whole turn of Dmax

[nocturne holly]

Yea you might as well protect and then tr with something bulkier

[charred saddle]

i saw it from cybbertron vid

[uncut helm]

Also in competitive i heard there is a rule of banning evasion but is snowcloak considered an evasion strat even if it only gives 1 evasion

[charred saddle]

theres no banning evasion on VGC

the only similar to ban is only regulations which only allows a certain pokemon or limits them. currently reg G, all mons allowed + 1 restricted

theres even a snowcloack bright powder articuno that won reg F Regionals

[uncut helm]

I see. Altho i dont have the money to buy the dlc’s of swsh and sv, im currently building my fav mons first before building meta ones just for fun

I am a bit confused by how comp still works so i will watch it after my semester lol

All i know of is that rn restricted mons are allowed currently

[final scarab]

question and sorry if i'm interrupting but would be the best move set for Alcremie?

[graceful pelican]

anyone wanna help theory craft a team for a draft league?

[modern harbor]

for 1 pass, $125, but i prefer dms !

[modern harbor]

not exactly sure but usually extremespeed and flare blitz, but i think hisuian arcanine is better

[next stump]

for doubles, decorate/protect/dazzling gleam and a 4th

[modern harbor]

woahhh totally diff from what ive seen lol

[modern creek]

Unrelated to above convo
Friend of mine has a Scizor. that thing can COOK technician boosted bullet punch with 2x attack from swords dance is crazy

[misty helm]

would you guys be this annoyed

[little plank]

I'm so confused eith this guy's goal lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2163283017

[misty helm]

by the way I have about a 50/50 win rate right now on the ranked battle stadium singles with pokemon you all thought belonged in the trash

is that particularly bad to you guys

[pulsar river]

What Pokemon?

Because there is a difference between trash and someone can do it better

[modern creek]

oh god it's the aura guardian clefable incident all over again

[misty helm]

lycanroc-dusk inteleon ribbombee porygon-z appletun and salazzle

[next stump]

are you in master ball?

[misty helm]

no not yet

[modern creek]

did not expect to see a starter on a trash list

[next stump]

then that's not a very impressive achievment

[misty helm]

I'm only in pokeball

[next stump]

you're 50% winrate in the literal lowest tier available

[modern creek]

is inteleon bad competitively?

[pulsar river]

Hol up, let him cook

[misty helm]

yeah I'm working on it

[pulsar river]

I'm currently using Illumise, as a support/tailwind setup-er

Illumise (F) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Encore
• Charm
• Tailwind
• Thunder Wave

[chrome knot]

LOOOOOOL

[pulsar river]

Encore to stop Trick Room, Charm to stop physical threats, Tailwind for speed control and Thunder Wave for a bit of trolling, jk more of the same, speed control

[chrome knot]

so how does encore stop trick room…?

[bold geode]

@junior patrol plz do not post anything other than rentals in #rental_teams , comp staff likes to keep it clear in there for rentals only

[modern creek]

if you read it right you can lock them into spamming trick room

[modern creek]

or at least that's what i'd imagine it to be for

[junior patrol]

My bad

[pulsar river]

Yeah, that's the plan

[molten oasis]

What stops them from switching out?

[chrome knot]

trick room —> swap

uhm..

[modern creek]

i just work here

[molten oasis]

If tr goes up they succeeded

Encore don’t matter they can switch

[molten oasis]

[pulsar river]

Usually I wait until they already set up trick room. and second turn, use Encore

I don't use Encore turn one, I use thunder wave to shut off speedy threats such as flutter mane, or use charm on physical threats, Calyrex Ice, Koraidon, etc

[bold geode]

Girl had to use Mematic to say casual player smh

[chrome knot]

it was from a tweet i bookmarked

blame bruneaux

[modern creek]

yeah

literally only game i play competitive in is unite

[bold geode]

Show tweet

[pulsar river]

I'd like to state I just started Competitive

[bold geode]

Ok evidence shown
You're allowed into the function

[chrome knot]

sorry did u want to see the girls kissing instead or what like

what were u getting outta me LOL

[pulsar river]

funny fact, Illumise is 5 points more bulky than Whimsicott, given 75 Health, than Whimsicott's 70 health

[chrome knot]

whimsicott is fast as fuck

and is the fairy type

[pulsar river]

doesn't matter with prankster

[chrome knot]

uhm?

you win vs other prankster users aka torn

meaning u taunt first

[pulsar river]

although, better typingis valid

[bold geode]

So you're telling me that was an option

[chrome knot]

yeah

[bold geode]

Like just now

[chrome knot]

its the most recent one

[bold geode]

Well why didn't you say so

[pulsar river]

also, yeah, Illumise doesn't get Taunt

so yeah, but I'll run with my Money

[misty helm]

I'm not playing particularly competitively either I would say

[pulsar river]

Then why brag about your winrate?

[misty helm]

I felt it was worth mentioning that I can at least try to differ from competitive players whilst having fun

in a competitive playing field no less

[pulsar river]

there is a variety of Pokemon that aren't 'Meta' per se, for example the Pachirisu that won that Pokemon Championship.

But there is a line to what is and is not usable

although, I'm not a professional as I've already stated

[molten oasis]

Illumise is trash but okay

[pulsar river]

Outclassed/redundant, not trash

[molten oasis]

No

It’s bad, not sure where outclassed came from

[long narwhal]

Whats the best tera type for zacian?

[misty helm]

yeah I'm good at building a niche for those who you wouldn't use

[pulsar river]

Outclassed by whimsicott, and others

[molten oasis]

Defensively water dragon and fire, offensively ground fairy and stellar

For SD ones I’d suggest a defensive Tera

If you run ground or stellar you run Tera blast

[long narwhal]

Can i tell u my team? Its singles btw

[molten oasis]

Okay give me a format in which illumise was meta I’ll wait

[molten oasis]

I can’t help much then I play doubles

[long narwhal]

Oh its fine

[pulsar river]

It wasn't meta, I'm just stating it's usable in Doubles

[misty helm]

yeah I agree with this statement

[molten oasis]

If it was outclassed that means it was once meta

Idt illumise has been outclassed it just sucks

murkrow did better than it ever has

[misty helm]

and so?

[chrome knot]

LOL idk i didnt know thats what u wanted

[misty helm]

they can still be used to an extent

[bold geode]

Well I didn't know that was an option

[pulsar river]

Outclassed in my eyes means it could be good if it was the only one of its kind

[molten oasis]

Ok they can be used doesn’t mean they should

[pulsar river]

but there are many others that can do similar or the same niches but better

[molten oasis]

Pff

[molten oasis]

And guess what? They’re always better

[craggy dagger]

mrrrp?

[molten oasis]

Illumise is apparently good just outclassed

[bold geode]

Look ok
Illumise was REALLY NICHE in Reg E
In this format, it's really just not the play whatsoever

[molten oasis]

According to Dracorex and Yoho here

[bold geode]

Where's bottle of rum

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 314: Illumise

Type

Bug

Abilities

Oblivious, Tinted Lens, Prankster (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/47/75/73/85/85

Total

430

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[molten oasis]

God those stats are abysmal

[misty helm]

if you have the brain capacity and your opponent doesn't play safe you should be able to out preform those that outclass it

[bold geode]

Mfer said yoho but there's no bottle of rum

[solid frigate]

What happened-

[molten oasis]

Okay

[craggy dagger]

illumise was good in reg E

[bold geode]

You can probably say that about meta shit too tbh lmao

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna outplay you with spidops doesn’t mean spidops is good

[craggy dagger]

and then whimsicott said hi

[solid frigate]

i mean,i can't deny they are good

But then again

WHIMSY THE GOAT

[molten oasis]

Torn was always better

[craggy dagger]

lies

[molten oasis]

Illumise was always very niche

[craggy dagger]

you can’t prankster encore
and torn isn’t as cute as whimsy

[molten oasis]

NOT THAN WHIMS I MEANT ILLUMISE

[craggy dagger]

nor is it as fast as whimsy

[bold geode]

Torn is a hot man so I gotta agree with Drago

[craggy dagger]

oh
no yeah that for sure

[solid frigate]

Not the Toxicity Moment kek

[molten oasis]

cool got that cleared up

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Oh look they’re gone after backup showed up

[craggy dagger]

tornadus just did better than illumise plus illumise is slower than torn so more susceptible to taunt torn

[molten oasis]

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

how am i backup lmao

[bold geode]

Backup?

[molten oasis]

Bruh

You backed me up in an argument

[bold geode]

Ok let's kill this before it goes overboard

[molten oasis]

Therefore, backup

[craggy dagger]

yayayayayayayayayayayayaya

[misty helm]

but still it's not the pokemon it's the skill level of the player

[pulsar river]

So I can't use it because I want to? You can say it's not good, but I can use it well

[molten oasis]

Alright ANYWAY enjoy my rental if you’re interested I’m gonna go play something else

[bold geode]

Oh my God and here we go

[solid frigate]

here we go again

[bold geode]

Promotion and dip
Little bitch

[craggy dagger]

sure but like-
that saying has its limits-
it’s not like a former world champ can make cosmog work

[molten oasis]

I’m not gonna continue this argument cuz it’s not worth anyone’s time

[pulsar river]

Anyways, cya

[bold geode]

BUT WOLFE HAS THE WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE

[molten oasis]

Fr

[solid frigate]

Kek Cosmog moment

[craggy dagger]

and trust me-
i would know cause im one of you people who use whatever they want

[solid frigate]

i'm kinda in between

[bold geode]

One of you people

[craggy dagger]

i lied btw cosmog can work-
i’ve done it before and won 5/10 games

with cosmog in the battle

it goes a little something like swift swim basc with last respects

[misty helm]

using a good meta mon is just decreases the risk factors technically

[molten oasis]

If you have the genuine skill to make things work go for it idt I’ve seen you 2 at all so idk if they’re gonna work for you, I will suggest the best option for a team not the niche one, if you disagree you disagree

[bold geode]

[solid frigate]

The partners have to really carry it tho

[craggy dagger]

ooo-
does that mean i’ve finally gained your approval

[molten oasis]

Mmmm

Well yea you’ve proven you have the skill to lol

[pulsar river]

Anyways nice, I've also been using Ursaluna

[solid frigate]

lel the quartet of gettin into rando arguements

[molten oasis]

My entire thing is niche and anti meta mons

[craggy dagger]

well you don’t shit on my builds all the time so i guess it counts

[bold geode]

Drago, Nova is my little off meta queen
I make her do dumb shit for my amusement

[pulsar river]

might grind the Kitakami Pokedex for Blood Moon though

[misty helm]

yeah I'm done arguing about this

[craggy dagger]

anyways i’m here to spread after you slow clefable propaganda

[molten oasis]

So don’t get me wrong it is fun and I like anti meta/niche stuff, you need to learn the game first, understand why something is bad and isn’t bad

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger say aaaahhhh

[molten oasis]

Anyway gonna commit on what I said earlier

[bold geode]

Can confirm, it's mild dogshit

[solid frigate]

actually my friend made a Dusk Mane Clefable team

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[bold geode]

(I used the Clefable guys, it was aight)

[long narwhal]

Is ting lu viable in vgc

[craggy dagger]

Stfu it’s there to say fuck you to stat boosts

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/7d03730986bdd393

My friend did make this and honestly for a beginner its aight

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 36: Clefable

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Magic Guard, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/70/73/95/90/60

Total

483

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[long narwhal]

Better than chien pao?

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

they do two different things so we can’t compare

[craggy dagger]

aaaaaaah-?

[bold geode]

Wouldn't say it's better than Chien Pao cuz they're different but they pretty good

[chrome knot]

gardevoir is better than chien pao deck tbh

[chrome knot]

more nuggies :3

[solid frigate]

i would say Chien Pao>Chi Yu>Ting Lu>Wo Chien

[craggy dagger]

anyone wanna try bug blast bolt-

[long narwhal]

In my head ting lu was the best

[chrome knot]

HUH

[next stump]

do you get free food while working

[molten oasis]

???

[chrome knot]

bug bolt was good in reg f for a bit but not bug blast

[solid frigate]

i mean the top 3 is kinda subjective

[craggy dagger]

idk i’ve seen bug tera bolt-

[bold geode]

-8ball is Ting Lu good

[gentle crag]

is Ting Lu good
:8ball: Ask again later

[chrome knot]

yeah i get free dinner most days tbh

[next stump]

hype

is canadian mcdonalds better than american

[bold geode]

-8ball is Ting Lu good

[gentle crag]

is Ting Lu good
:8ball: Without a doubt

[chrome knot]

while working we get free drinks

[bold geode]

Pog

[chrome knot]

yes bc our meat isnt aids pumped

[solid frigate]

-8ball Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet

[gentle crag]

Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet
:8ball: Reply hazy try again

[solid frigate]

-8ball Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet

[gentle crag]

Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet
:8ball: Better not tell you now

[solid frigate]

-8ball Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet

[gentle crag]

Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again

[solid frigate]

-8ball Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet

[gentle crag]

Is Chi Yu the Best Ruinous Quartet
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again

[solid frigate]

BRUH

[long narwhal]

-8ball is chi yu the cuttest pokemon?

Does not work

[solid frigate]

needs to be masterball or higher

[craggy dagger]

enough with 8ball

[long narwhal]

ª

[bold geode]

-8ball is Nova a cutie

[gentle crag]

is Nova a cutie
:8ball: Don't count on it

[long narwhal]

Ask him that

[bold geode]

Nova I'm finna beat tf out this ball

[solid frigate]

[craggy dagger]

well tbf i’m not-
that cute

[long narwhal]

😦

[bold geode]

No is cutie
Cuz fuck it why not

[solid frigate]

i mean your behaviour speaks for itself,Mini Firefly kek

[bold geode]

-8ball wanna throw hands?

[gentle crag]

wanna throw hands?
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again

[bold geode]

Bitch it's yes or no

[craggy dagger]

mini firefly what

[bold geode]

-8ball wanna throw hands

[gentle crag]

wanna throw hands
:8ball: As I see it, yes

[solid frigate]

-8ball Is Miraidon better than Zamazenta

[gentle crag]

Is Miraidon better than Zamazenta
:8ball: Very doubtful

[bold geode]

Fine square up 8ball

[solid frigate]

Rotom is Zamazenta fan

[craggy dagger]

you can’t really-
compare the two

they do different things and they fit their own niches so

[bold geode]

As it should be

[solid frigate]

-8ball is Terapagos better than Zamazenta

[gentle crag]

is Terapagos better than Zamazenta
:8ball: It is certain

[solid frigate]

PFFT NVM

[long narwhal]

How do yall decide what game tk buy like sv comes out which one u buyin

[craggy dagger]

i’m a big fan of terapagos though

[solid frigate]

i mean as a Pokemon in general

[craggy dagger]

ohhhh

[chrome knot]

scarlet bc orange was my favourite colour

[solid frigate]

YEY

[craggy dagger]

then imo yeah zama > mirai

[chrome knot]

then suddenly scarlet had all the good exclusives lmao

[solid frigate]

i would say the are both great

[craggy dagger]

i bought scarlet for the paradoxes-
now i’ve grown fond of scarlet even though everyone was clowning on me

[long narwhal]

I bought violet bc miraidon is cooler

[solid frigate]

Unless you Count Miraidon is the only one lmao

[long narwhal]

But i wish i had flutter and great tusk

[craggy dagger]

the scarlet paradox mons look super cool and cute so i went with that

[solid frigate]

Union Circle moment

[craggy dagger]

without knowing that-
flutter mane would decimate the early meta

[pulsar river]

-8ball Is Illumise trash

[craggy dagger]

she still does though so

[long narwhal]

Yes

[pulsar river]

huh

[craggy dagger]

not again

[solid frigate]

Ghost/Fairy is a really strong typing+Great and Diverse Movepool

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

1 metal pipe

[long narwhal]

Wdym u 4x weak to stellar

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-love-funny-fun-meme-gif-27687103

[chrome knot]

what.

that is NOT how stellar works LMAO

[solid frigate]

what the ass you talking about

[long narwhal]

Jk

[craggy dagger]

mystical fire in the sun

[solid frigate]

Flash Cannon,Tachyon Cutter,Iron Head etc:

[chrome knot]

heavy slam

[craggy dagger]

tera fire mystical fire in the sun

[chrome knot]

make it rain

[solid frigate]

i did use Mystical Fire Flutter before

[craggy dagger]

i’ve seen that before

[chrome knot]

lion shield

[solid frigate]

Behemoth Blade

[craggy dagger]

either way-
flutter mane chi yu are my two favs of this gen :3

pagos comes third

[chrome knot]

lurantis is in this game so

[craggy dagger]

emma-
this generation-
not nat dex

[solid frigate]

Archaludon might be my GOAT in Reg F and still my fav Comp Mon in SV

I would say thats my fav indigo disk mon

[molten oasis]

time to grind up the ingame ladder

[craggy dagger]

of all the new pokemon released this generation-
chi yu, flutter, terapagos, scream tail, iron bundle
in that order

[chrome knot]

scream tail

[solid frigate]

Archaludon,Chi Yu,Tatsugiri,Iron Crown,Raging Bolt,Miraidon,Terapagos(Not in Order)

[boreal mauve]

Shiny Scream Tail

Provided by Nexus-Z

[craggy dagger]

hehe it’s cute

[solid frigate]

looks good tho

Scream Tail alt in Smash When

[craggy dagger]

it’s just a ball of-
supersonic waves that could delete you out of existence

[solid frigate]

Perish Song moment

[molten oasis]

oh boy koraidon grimm ape toedscruel entei and bundle

this is a team of all time

[craggy dagger]

what

[solid frigate]

What
the
Fuck

but then again i lost to someone using Delphox in a Koraidon Team so

[craggy dagger]

korai grimm entei i can understand-
how do the other three fit into the team properly?

[molten oasis]

idfk lol

[craggy dagger]

sun, screens, sun boosted sacred fire

[solid frigate]

Ape for Final Gambit and

[molten oasis]

im just clicking blizzard a lot

[craggy dagger]

icy wind bundle-
gambit ape

spore toed?

[solid frigate]

also i hate Losing to Delphox in Cart so badly

[molten oasis]

i froze the grimmsnarl LOL

[solid frigate]

i think so

[solid frigate]

ICE AGE

https://tenor.com/view/terminal-montage-gigantamax-urshifu-gigantamax-lapras-you-fool-max-guard-gif-9735429938740160847

[molten oasis]

damn grimmsanrl thawed out

[solid frigate]

that guy has more luck than me

[chrome knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663757541343363073/1259334098086789170/Paradox_Pokemon_Battle_Royale__Collab_with_Gnoggin.gif

[molten oasis]

tera steel koraidon hes cooked

TERA STEEL IRON HEAD

[solid frigate]

Wtf-

[molten oasis]

great ball is something

[solid frigate]

Bro is about to die to Fusion Flare

[solid frigate]

Me when i saw Quick Attack Ogerpon:

[molten oasis]

might be banded he hasnt clicked anything else

[solid frigate]

huh

your team does not scream Steel Weak for me

[molten oasis]

its not

[solid frigate]

You have Incin and Ogerpon so idk

and BM Ursa

[molten oasis]

he is not banded

[solid frigate]

ok at least thats somethin

[molten oasis]

crap

this is gonna be close due to annihilape living on 1

i think i lose lol

oh well

[craggy dagger]

awe

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2163326100
close enough

[molten oasis]

weird team tbh

yea he has espeed i just lose

that sucks dude, iron head koraidon is so weird

i played kinda bad tbh

should have brought bloodmoon

[solid frigate]

Bloodmoon looks positive in this MU

[molten oasis]

i brought ogerpon which was wrong lol

[long narwhal]

What does the rain do for kyogre

[next stump]

boosts its damage by 50%

for water moves

[long narwhal]

Ph ok

Should i use koraidon with him or no

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

if that pelipper attacked you then big chance you lost here

[next stump]

no probably not

[solid frigate]

this is just like that Kyogre and Groudon Team in SWSH

[craggy dagger]

i lost either way

[molten oasis]

incin eats a meteor beam from lunala

behind veil

[craggy dagger]

incin does not eat a meteor beam from lunala-

[molten oasis]

it just did lol

[craggy dagger]

oh-
nvm
behind veil ok

[molten oasis]

nornally yea incin explodes

[chrome knot]

you forgot the fine print

[long narwhal]

https://pokepast.es/eaa10f915fd7e24e what should i add

[solid frigate]

oh its Ubers.

[molten oasis]

i win yippee

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[molten oasis]

hh blizzard just ohkoed their maushold lol

[craggy dagger]

asfkriaksjsusyafa-
well hi there

[next stump]

nobody here really plays ubers so it'll be hard to find good advice

[molten oasis]

OH

thats so hype

[next stump]

almost a nundo hahaha

[craggy dagger]

almost

[solid frigate]

RIP the Family

[craggy dagger]

still cool-
now i dont have to suffer hunt in sv

[molten oasis]

still a shiny female alolan vulpix

i still need to get an OT shiny a9

[craggy dagger]

snowpix gender ratio is 75% female no?

[molten oasis]

i think so?

yea 75%

[craggy dagger]

female suits snowpix better anyways

[molten oasis]

indeed

[chrome knot]

name it skrunkly……

[molten oasis]

LOL

[craggy dagger]

i can’t even move it into sv
i just did a mass transfer of shiny litten

[chrome knot]

you want to name it skrunkly so badly

[craggy dagger]

nu

i’ll name you skrunkly-

[molten oasis]

im losing the whimsi mirror speed ties

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-scream-shout-sad-gif-15786007

[craggy dagger]

rip

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/frogiese-f-it-we-ball-kitty-cat-gif-26662189

[molten oasis]

dammit bloodmoon i needed you to kill hands

definetly av

[solid frigate]

F

[molten oasis]

i win he locked edrift

assuming its specs

bloodmoon dub lets goo

[craggy dagger]

okay but what iron hands doesn’t run AV

[molten oasis]

some run clear amu for incin

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

koraidon, nooo

[craggy dagger]

i mean understandable but why

[molten oasis]

its also pao koraidon

i have not played a pao koraidon lol

[craggy dagger]

oh past pao is easy to play-
well-
decently easy-
minus weather control

think of it like double swords (zacpao)

[molten oasis]

mhmm

this is close again

[solid frigate]

told yeah Koraidon is fucking everywhere

[molten oasis]

seriously

i can win but i have to hope he doesnt protect

[solid frigate]

dunno

[molten oasis]

I WIN

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-excited-explode-happy-spongebob-squarepants-gif-12971731

[solid frigate]

lez go

I'm Still having Koraidon Issues

[molten oasis]

eat this tera fire helping hand sun boosted fusion flare fluttermane you wont

im popping off so hard rn lol

koraidon mu is generally tough for kyurem

i have to tera and collision course hurts

and weather control

[solid frigate]

Meanwhile Me:

[molten oasis]

lol

what did you run on ladder?

[solid frigate]

Pagos-

[craggy dagger]

smh

go run something fun-

[molten oasis]

ah, yea thats a struggling mu indeed

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/20a705e93c27c4ab

This

[molten oasis]

yea run something fun like Kyurem

[solid frigate]

its the worst

I argue More than Zamazenta

cuz i still win a bit against it but Koraidon is just pain

[molten oasis]

tornogre mu, as in exploding to kyurem mu

[solid frigate]

Freeze Dry go brrr

[molten oasis]

booster spA flutter, odd

[solid frigate]

funny enough all 3 of my restricteds are Anti Sun lol

[molten oasis]

oh we're fine

[solid frigate]

saw that in Ladder as well before

[molten oasis]

what tera are you, why are you teraing

oh its tera fairy flutter, ic ic

pon kyurem just cleaned that game

think ill stop there for the day

4-1 pretty good

[long narwhal]

Y does eveyone yse scarfed koraidon?

[amber lynx]

It hits like truck

Speeding on the highway

[barren needle]

what would be a good dragon type to add to this team, baxcalibur's base stats are a lot lower than black kyurem so i cant use it unless absolutely needed? skeledirge, greninja, serperior, chincinno, and iron hands

[next stump]

i'm guessing this is a singles team? if so, are you playing in game ladder or on pokemon showdown?

[barren needle]

casual play against my friend

[long narwhal]

U know about singles?

[next stump]

no I don't, was just asking to clarify

[long narwhal]

Oh ok

[barren needle]

and yes its singles

[solid frigate]

did i just saw Recover Chien Pao in B03

[solid frigate]

what-

wish i have Rilla to ruin his shi-

[nocturne holly]

Nah that rilla switch would be crazy satisfying

[solid frigate]

yep lol

Tho i murdered his team

[craggy dagger]

leaves :0

[chrome knot]

no come back wtf

[solid frigate]

gets murdered sorry

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger PLS HELP ME I CANT BREAK THE FUCKING PILL

[craggy dagger]

again

emma
do you have a box cutter knife

[chrome knot]

IDK

[craggy dagger]

@mighty stump
emma can't break the pill again

[solid frigate]

Just use a Pair of SCISSORS

[chrome knot]

would make my life so much easier if i could just start @ 100mg

[bold geode]

GET A FUCKING PILL CUTTER

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/irenepilled-slay-pokemon-shart-nct-dream-gif-23457209

[chrome knot]

im gonna cry bruh how do i break a pill

[solid frigate]

Wrap the Pill with something like Tissue and Use something like Cutter or Scissors to cut it down in half and not lauching into somewhere else-

[chrome knot]

youre gonna be so mad at me

[solid frigate]

[bold geode]

Emma did you OD again

[chrome knot]

UHM

[bold geode]

Emma c'mon

[chrome knot]

nooooo

[solid frigate]

oh god

[chrome knot]

dont say mean things

[bold geode]

Go to Walmart
And buy a fucking pill cutter
I know here they're $4, I don't imagine they're that much where they are

[silver ravine]

Aren't most pills twisties?

[bold geode]

Or where you are

[chrome knot]

look

mayb i just start @ 1 a day

[silver ravine]

Like depending on how I slept, I'll either take a caffine pill like a normal person or I'll twist it open and dump it into an energy drink

[bold geode]

Or maybe you get a pill cutter and take half like you should

[chrome knot]

OK MAYBE

i did split it yesterday except 25% of it went FLYING so technically i took 75mg yday & 100mg today

[bold geode]

That's not better

[chrome knot]

_<

[spiral summit]

Hey y'all. I'm hesitant to throw together a team after not being able to settle on one on showdown. Is there a single resource that's useful for finding rental codes or do you just have to look everywhere?
Edit: I just realized this maybe should have gone under the rental channel, but I wasn't sure since it's not about a specific team

[solid frigate]

what specific team then?

[spiral summit]

I was hoping to browse miraidon teams until I saw one that I felt like I could be comfortable with it

Searching for rentals online seems to be a mixed bag of early reg g

[solid frigate]

the rental only has one Miraidon rental but i would suggest look on Victory Road VGC Rentals cuz there is way more sauce

[little plank]

Alot of there stuff is early reg g as well

[foggy lodge]

[solid frigate]

my Miraidon team is kinda Early Reg G formula as well

[foggy lodge]

I always wanted to test Rajan's Miraidon team

I think it's still good rn

[spiral summit]

Thanks! That was really helpful. I'm gonna try Vani's. It's a place to start. I imagine the real ladder is going to feel different enough than showdown. Better learning experience

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon's archetype hasn't evolved that much

[cyan smelt]

Funny how miraidon blew up as soon as people figured out to not use the mid future paradoxes

[foggy lodge]

The only good one is Hands lmao

[spiral summit]

Yeah his looks good too

[foggy lodge]

I think Hands is better than Inci in the archetype rn

But Inci is still a good option

[spiral summit]

I wanted to make him work just because I played through violet and then was certainly dismayed when folks said it wasn't good

[solid frigate]

yeah agree but i think Hands for me is little Clunky and does not solve the problem of Physical Attackers

[little plank]

I used this strategy when I played Chaney shuckle lmao

[solid frigate]

Miraidon is not bad,Its Bundle who dragged him down

[spiral summit]

I've been trying to get scrappy flamigo with upper hand feint and close combat

[solid frigate]

and also most sets before Indy are Tera Fairy

[spiral summit]

So going back to iron hands will feel like a pretty big upgrade

[cyan smelt]

Iron bungle hydro miss

[solid frigate]

yeah its just not healthy For Miraidon

[dapper crag]

Flamigo's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Brave Bird, Close Combat, Double Kick, Dual Wingbeat, Endeavor, Facade, Feint, Fling, Fly, Giga Impact, Liquidation, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Lunge, Mega Kick, Payback, Peck, Pounce, Reversal, Sky Attack, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, U-turn, Upper Hand, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Chilling Water, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Tera Blast, Water Pulse

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Copycat, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Focus Energy, Protect, Psych Up, Quick Guard, Rest, Roost, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Taunt, Wide Guard

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Flamigo.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[spiral summit]

Yeah I was doing tera water blast with bundle. It wasnt great but I love freeze dry

[solid frigate]

Hands is the Legitamate best Future Paradox for Miraidon

I would be bias on Crown but Hands is best

[foggy lodge]

I hated Freeze dry when i played Ogerpon in reg F

[spiral summit]

I had been nervous about the extra ground weakness so I wasn't trying it

Ogerpon was why I wanted freeze dry haha. And waterfu

[solid frigate]

i mean its not that bad

But eh

the concern is legitmate

my team has half of them weak to ground

[cyan smelt]

Are crown and boulder any good

[solid frigate]

Crown and Boulder covering specfic Niche,I would say its not that great but i would like to try it out

i mean if it gives me a Solution to OHKO Caly Ice i'll take it

[spiral summit]

I'd also rather have parabolic over discharge but I'll try it

[solid frigate]

i mean i guess if you wanna heal but sure

[cyan smelt]

What tera does caly ice usually run these days

[solid frigate]

Fire

Tho my iron Crown has Tera Ground Blast

[spiral summit]

The healing has saved me multiple times, but I don't know how many kos I might have missed

[cyan smelt]

I want to try using skeledirge again

[solid frigate]

dew it

[cyan smelt]

Skeledirge and Zama seems good

[solid frigate]

Parabolic charge is fine for being a healing option for Miraidon,

Tho mostly the kill moves are E Drift,Draco and Volt Switch

[cyan smelt]

Better to be able to pick up a ko or two rather than ko your teammate, miraidon is meant to be a nuke

[bold geode]

It's aight
I tried it

[solid frigate]

yeah

[near crag]

What am I missing out on clodsire? It’s a good special wall, lowest speed (20) after you user, toxic, and not so bad typing. It seems decent, but it must suck, given it has 0,06 usage in pikalytics

[bold geode]

Cuz it's trash

[solid frigate]

uhhh why use it

[dapper crag]

Move: Parabolic Charge

The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

65

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[foggy lodge]

Are u playing singles?

[near crag]

Why tho?

No

[foggy lodge]

The only way i see Clodsire working is singles

[solid frigate]

yeah doubles Cloddy is not it

[foggy lodge]

Yeah the thing is all of those good things Clodsire has are just not worth it in VGC

You can ignore it and kill the rest of the team

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger my tummy hurtsssss

[near crag]

20 speed after you seems kinda big

[solid frigate]

and you have to decide if you wanna use Water Absorb or Unaware

[bold geode]

I wonder why

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 980: Clodsire

Types

Poison/Ground

Abilities

Poison Point, Water Absorb, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

130/75/60/45/100/20

Total

430

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[bold geode]

It's just not it

[solid frigate]

Urshifu kills it

[bold geode]

No it don't lmao

[solid frigate]

wait-

am i missing something

[bold geode]

But point is there's just way better picks than Clodsire

[solid frigate]

156+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Clodsire on a critical hit: 360-432 (152.5 - 183%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Ummmmm

[near crag]

Now that I think about it, amoonguss exists

[solid frigate]

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Clodsire on a critical hit: 234-276 (98.7 - 116.4%) -- approx. 81.3% chance to OHKO

And yeah-

[near crag]

And hatterene kinda also does the same thing, just better

[spiral summit]

That's where water absorb comes in right?

[solid frigate]

Hatterene is niche but i still think Indeedee is better

Don't get me wrong Hatterene is fine

[solid frigate]

but then you lose to the Restricteds cuz It has Weakness to Ice,Ground and Psychic