#competitive_discussion
1 messages · Page 287 of 1
Insanely based tbh
Cause they’re NERDS
My frontal lobe can't develop if it ain't there
You say it as if anyone didn't know that
Real!
lmao
Says the guy with a VGC blog
Bro im a fucken nerd too I didnt say I wasnt
Yeah I'm a nerd too
That was before VGC though
every1 here is a nerd tbf
Real?
I used to like be invested into Vtubers
Real
we are on a comp channel on a pokemon discord server
We can’t be friends
Lmao
I thought I knew yoh
I mean ok
I wasn't like OBSESSED with them
In fact it looks like a fun way to stream
I just thought it was a cool way to express yourself
Although it feels more like a popularity contest than anything
If you like the vtubers for the person and not for having cool models I don't see the difference between that and a no webcam streamer
Kind of is probably especially in the Japan area of it
i watch, 1 youtuber that has one and i dont even watch her much
Since like Hololive for example are looked at as idols
i dont really understand vtubers but to each their own ig as long as ur not hurting any1 
I don’t know if I’ll ever break into the streaming sphere
been watching lots of game grumps the past week
I don’t like being recorded
Tofu would be a top 50 pokemon streamer
Meanwhile American Vtubers are maybe half idolized and half just the jokes of lewd mfers who may or may not be a man
As if
You can make written content more aesthetic ✨
oh nice
Puts tape over laptop camera
isnt that the upside down stream guy
My laptop has a camera cover
Toppos great
LOL
he seems cool, that stream layout gives me a headache tho ngl
Yes, we’re good friends finally met each other at NAIC lol
Hes also fun to talk to
whos toppo?
Actually yeah ToppoWoppo aka the one guy in the world who thinks I'm funny
Trick Room guy
ah
haha nice dude
man i dont know anyone lol
hes done some insane plays
his streams are also straight quality
Yeah Toppo is one of THE Trick Room guys
Like bro is invested into it
interesting
Bro literally has a fucking list of OTs that is just for people he encounters who use Imprison Trick Room
lmfao
imprison tr is cringe
Its pretty smart to have tbh
yea
i get its valuable
Yeah
It's crazy
but also, play through tr trust
I remember though the first stream of his I watched he was using min speed Chi Yu and min speed Urshifu Rapid Strike
i kind of like this b/c usually they hit a level of play that is so cracked it makes tr cool
Oh he's amazing honestly
Yeah its truly finding your own playstyle
tru
I make bad teams and do good
steal playstyles.
im just a balance player
Like Toppo I feel like he somehow even with using weird shit still focuses on refining the craft
me like redirection and set up guy
be an amalgamation of different players like a freak
Emma thats still your own playstyle
This
Like he does both so well that it's honestly cool
so be the kakashi of the vgc world?
thats having your own playstyle
I never stopped to think what my playstyle is in general
Freak.....
Freaky Showdown rn
I like teams that don't let the opponent do anything
Mood
I like just making people upset lmao
stop being reasonable
i like set up into big damage
Get them encored get them snarled get them intimidated get them burnt get them paralyzed
go watch a tempt6t video
I still think about Yotam’s description of both me and his playstyle
Like I imagine everyone is a little kid in Fortnite who just lives and breathes Fortnite
And when I beat them, just imagine them breaking shit
still stands true to today
damn
Yotam likes creating pins through high tempo teams, so HO
im just a puppet strung by different players at a time
Actually maybe that was just my Fortnite mentality lmao
Breaking swipe may be one of my favorite moves and I think that might say something about me
I like pins by removing options til they have nothing
Did you learn anything from Tofu 🥺
Literally beating the kids (in game) was what kept me playing Fortnite
wow
based tbh
monke has to know hes beating kids (in game) to have fun
you were pretty big help in beginning of greg g tbhhhh
greg g
Honestly it's Fortnite
What other reason is there
fair
greg g
I don't think I ever tried to stick to one style of play but the ones I enjoyed most were stuff like sableye, scream tail, grafaiai, just being little trolls with encore and not allowing the opponent to do what they want
yah
greg g
greg g
gregulation g
gregulation g
gregory g
congregulations
I preferred freg f honestly
fref f
that doesnt work
greg g is just better
Anyone wanna help test out my new double battles team?
this is like wen companies wanna push the sequel and it just doesnt hit
Yeah wym
Not me, sorry. Although if you need advice feel free to send the team in via pokepaste
#competitive_discussion message
This one was made with complete seriousness Drago, idk wtf you're talking about
[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
No one likes Monke. We just put up with him cause he's cute or.something
yay i was the cause of a silly pin
I just have a torty coming up so i wanna practice
Emmas playstyle: Silly pins
yea cuz everyone has to know we dont like you
try sd or cart
A torty
A turtle?
i liked the puppet analogy makes me feel hard to read 
Now that I think about it I should be playing terapagos
idk how i like to pin people, havent thought that though
FrankensteinVGC
I got a turtlemant later bro, gotta practice
shit i realized too late
I mean Drago we can figure that out 
you like to WHAT
I think one of my favorite mons to use rn is volcarona with wisp struggle bug and rage powder
SpongeBob fish YOU WHAT
“babe help me practice pins”
“why are you undressing log in to showdown ffs”
THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT
LMAO
LOCK THE FUCK IN WE’RE RUNNING SETS TN
Me when babe invites me to practice my pins but she's naked and there's no Switch
HAHAHAHA
lmao
What type of sets are we talking
LOCK THE FUCK IN WE’RE RUNNING SETS TN

What
Lmao wonderful time to come back Keanu
yo monke chill dude
i missed that and i dont like u brought it hack around
i was content not seeing that
Well I said undress
It's like a meme bro

@balmy glen the wii is coming to toronto BTW
little more subtlety
be there or be square
in all seriousness not sure about that in battle
Nah I just said it
Lock in is my favourite phrase from the internet
The pins?
Tbf I did tell Lyco something not PG13 in Spanish the other day
Say it
me when pinning
tempting, but im not gonna
shouldnt really be speaking another language here let alone saying not pg13 shit which is a big reason why they have it that way here. cant regulate other languages effectively wen we are a predominately english speaking staff

Cues the "she x on my y" Pokemon lines
I speak in indonesian all the time and 50% of it is just swearing 😭
Who's speaking another language
Lmao
the pokerizz
yea def shouldnt do that dude haha, the swearings fine its more the principle of it
Tofu I've seen you speaking Indonesian in here, wtf you been saying bro
She x on my y till I legends z-a
that u suck at vgc
lmfao
Honestly based
Anyways food dump
tofu do i sucj
a lot of ppl here speak a different vgc language then me
feels like its well known that monke sucks at vgc
Bam
sheeeeshhhh
god, i cant english today
share dat rn
no ofc not CHAMPION EMMA BROOKS
dieeeee
Giant shrimp
ok Monke doesnt actually suxk tho
or is it
you beat me to it fuck
How is Heatran in reg G? Finally got it in Sword, but per Smogon there's no G guide for it.
Its like
Ok who gave this mfer a lie serum
Probably an option
its a guy, he exists
Heatran with Flash Fire + Fairy Tera can be good into Koraidon stuff
It's like, a zacian option?
But I don’t realistically see other strengths it brings
Yeah but you gotta tera for Koraidon
Just run Chandy
Zacian has bigger thjngs to worry about than Heatran and vice versa
Yotam’s table at a glance shows the inconsistency it brings
Matchup wise nothjng has beaten Calys and Terapagos in consistency
Across the board
For a trick room/psyspam team would it be better than Torkoal or do they have different roles?
Zama probably is gonna find more difficult footing since CSR has also found its stride
No, Torkoal would be better
I think I should try terapagos
Especially for Psyspam
Good thing there's a new tofu blogpost about it
heatran gets eruption?
it used to
I think Heatran would be more on Balance teams if you want to slowplay things out
Do esplain. Though I guess it depends if you're going hard trick room or doing half n half
ah
But I don’t realistically see it being successful
i dont really miss heatran, heatran's annoying at times lol
You could consider Magma Storm trapping but
Thats 75% and also pivot moves are inherent
I miss Heatran
yea even w.o many ground types runnin around heatran jus gets dunked on
Real honestly
urshifu
Yeah Fighting coverage is also huge
When chi yu flutter was huge and heatran worked for it
Yeah you also have no realistic way to hitting Peli
Although I won't run Heatran cuz it's not great rn (definitely didn't consider it a couple weeks ago for a few secs)
eh
You get DPulse and Shadow Ball’d
its a meta with niche stuff, anything can be considered within reason
Av heatran ballin
I considered it and then said "just run Chandelure" which should tell you the state Heatran is in rn
I also think majority of Chi-Flutter comps right now have Terapagos with them
and Urshifu
yea
Chi Yu is literally the thing saving Terapagos from Zamazenta rn
think shifu is just an issue for heatran
Which just makes it difficult since that team centres around punishing literally all your defensive play through tempo
Like sure
You can Tera Grass
now Starstorm is SE
Close Combat is also still neutral
and eating SE U-Turn still hurts
whats the niche that heatran works then? trapping stuff?
Id almost say coverage/typing + Magma Storm is the stuff it brings to the table
Tera bug baby
Anti-fairy isn’t as jmportant
Rn the one I can see is just Tera Fairy basically walling Koraidon
Heat also looks pretty cool
Yeah
true heatran does looks pretty cool
Other than maybe trapping that's about it
It was anti fairy but really it felt mostly anti flutter
i mean, chandelure or skele does that better id argue
But once again
Run Chandelure
Chandelure is based
heatran is cool, its been a staple for awhile
Cuz that was the main Fairy
a few formats its not relevant is fine
without needing a tera
wasnt heatran relevant for all of reg d and that was kinda it
Exactly
I had a fucking argument with someone earlier about it, Chandelure is the best one for it lmao
You wall better than Skele
it was around in reg e
i dont remember heatran in reg e at all tbh
Gholdengo be like:
I think I'm not contributing to chat bye
dengo dont wall koraidon
Me when Gholdengo eats a fuckin Flare Blitz
Oh right Koraidon
then u dont remember e-nough about that format
lmao
Ceruledge and Xhandelure

oh yea ceru
Yeah Ceruledge and Chandelure
Chandelure if you wanna get Zamazenta while you're at it
both still works for Zama LOL
arma good into zama too
ahh yes who could forget xhanedlure
Yeah, but I feel Chandy is better cuz it's a Special attacker
ahh fuck i mispelled too
lmfao
who cares if they cant hit you + recovery
Eh actually it could be close cuz Butter Blade heals
Butter Blade
Oh wow
Butter Blade yeah
lmfao
Homiesa fatass
i love butter blade
Butter blade
Butter Blade
Lmao damn I'm fat
Sounds yummy ngl

buttah dawg
You know you're fat when your Ceruledge runs Butter Blade
What other moves can fit food things in there
Collision Full Course Meal
Actually literally Order Up
Bro had to think about that one
When she octos my path til I travel
It's about food, of course imma think about it
lmfao
ofc you would
bro thinks about nothing but food
Tbh I tried butter blade ceru but idk how to use it ig or it’s just mid
Yeeeee i was using Aurelians variant but it just seems so mid
Im still thinking about Aurelian’s Pagos team and I still think Suica’s is better
But I like what it brought to the table
Which ones, they built together for NAIC
The NAIC one
Gotcha
There wasn’t much of a difference other than fixing it with safety goggles
Suica was running the Torn Amoonguss stuff though
At NAIC?
Am I thinking of a different team
No not NAIC
The one he got 2nd place
Playing MDB
STOCKHOLN
THATS THE EVENT
Wow I blanked on that one
ok at NAIC they worked together and ran same team. At the regionals one ran the torn amoongus stuff which was Suica and Aurelian ran the ceruledge
I have both of their pastes tho cuz they are friends
I think I liked Suica team more
I thought Aurelian was running Grimm/Pagos stuff with Hands
Okok
Ok
Yeah
Anyways Suica ver I felt had more impact but it also felt like it was
“Missing” something
But I cant tell what
Aurelian has been on hands pagos grimm for that long?
no Soula ran something else at Stockholm which was Ceruledge stuff
ah
and then at NAIC its the same
Do you think Suica would mind if I dm’d his twitter
uhhhhhhh
Fr
I mean he doesn’t really know u
I was rooting for Soula
I can talk to him for u if u have questions
Yeah I know
No, was just wondering about the Pagos spread only
ah gotcha
On the Stockholm
dude's been a finalist, what 3 times?
It’s the same spread xd
U could honestly figure it out
the person who won always deserved it but Soula has to get one eventually
takes less time tho xd
Fine fine
Nah he will win
He just gets really nervous on stream atm
I think the difference between our come ups in the scene is just hes grown up playing pokemon from seniors division so he’s not used to being on stream while I grew up playing pubg on stream lol
you're more used to the pressure of that then?
playing on stream basically feels the same as Swiss to me
ic
I’m more of an emotional player than Aurelian tho so I do more pop offs xd
Depends ig
fair
I feel like people like to watch pop offs sometimes but I’ve had some players tell me to keep it cool
Probably looks more professional I’d have to imagine
i think it depends on the set/context
if ur not a complete douche about it i think its fine in that regard
hmm
would put a rental up in rental_teams but like writing so much notes seems like a pain when I could just give a basic run down and give tips afterwards 
lazy high schooler moment tho tbh
For me the notes take 10-15 minutes
It is annoying, but i have time for it
The notes at max take 20 minutes
hm prob seems like more than it looks
I type pretty fast so it's no surprise i can do it in 10-20 minutes
asic run down is ok
Literally just want ANY form of direction
Even if its just leads
itd a pog paste
But yeah you can always just include the basics and then just ask people to DM/Ping for more questions
u have the spreads also?
ok ig our teams winning taiwan
Hello
hi
Showdown stream?
yea thanks to a friend lol
woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps
damn
That reminds me I have to use dawn wings to
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2144334497 Team's been doing good so far
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Lyco Tyranitar and Somoral! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: Jun 16, 2024
im not sure that's the quality of opponent that can give you an accurate point of whether a team is good lol
tailwind + protect turn 1 wtf was that*
Ik it is low elo
But i'm testing Tyranitar and i don't want to possibly lower my elo on my main
Just saying its been doing good so far, even if i'm agaisnt shit opponents

Get back here Syl
Whatsup?
Hello

How are you doing?
Im doing well, how're you on this fine Father's day?
I'm ok rn, just planning to tackle emboar raids today
Thats next weekend as well right? Before I miss it 
I want to build a Specs Terapagos team today
Yes, there will be a rerun next weekend
I have been using Annihilape
252 HP 252 Def 4 Att
Shell Bell
Rage Fist Taunt Rain dance bulk up
But I really dont like Annihilape, Im just gonna run a support and go off
Understandable
Basically my playstyle in anything 
@mighty stump
surely it rolls good
Hey! We do it the hard way, not being a wimp!
These are the top 32 teams from the 2024 Taiwan National Championships! 🇹🇼🏆
🇹🇼 Taipei, Taiwan
🗓️ 16 Jun 2024
🎮 VGC Regulation Set G
📄 Bo3 single elim., OTS incl. Nature
👥 128 qualified players
🏆 Won by 🇹🇼 Chyr Wei (@ChyrWill)
🔗 All info: https://t.co/jmcKzH9xJK
(Jk play however you want)
OTS including nature is super interesting, that does affect a decent amount of gameplans
Another DW top 8
The hard way... so stall?
Nope
The Hard way is fighting the enemies and not supporting
Ok but seriously look at how big Groudon is
Aerial Ace, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Crunch, Cut, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Fissure, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Metal Claw, Natural Gift, Power-Up Punch, Precipice Blades, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt
Ancient Power, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power, Eruption, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Lava Plume, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Shock Wave, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar
Block, Bulk Up, Confide, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Roar, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Groudon.
I'd run SR/Spikes/Precipice/Roar 
Im joking around
Honestly dunnno whats usually ran on groudon tho. Precipice, Hheat Crash/Fire Punch, SD, Protect or smth?
ye pretty much
Yay me
I'd run your mom

Bro being a moron
pdf file emote
Mirror
@ moderator

Please dont
Don't worry, i'd run him
Ah yes another raid I’m not doing 
Emboar supremacy 🐷
the raids were so peak during the early SV days
You're not wrong
now that HOME is linked and everything is a wild spawn they feel super pointless besides the mark
And i want more resources
Like shards, patches, etc.
And also Herba Mystica
But outside of that, theres no point on doing the raids
The mot comp relevant pokemon we got were Rillaboom and Bundle
I wish they made shiny events related to 7 star raids
That would be the perfect excuse to get shiny pokemon that are usually shiny locked
I want a shiny raid event with bolt
I wish they release Caly shinies 😦 Tough that they're now 4-5 years old with no shiny
Urshifu would be cool too
very much agree
And the ruins, I want shiny pao and chi yu
I think shiny locking is the stupidest idea pokemon has
like... it just doesn't make sense to me
you should allow your players to hunt and grind shinies if they exist in the codee
Yea that’s valid, I guess they want to save them for events but it’s like, they haven’t done events for any legends beyond the galar birds
And that was a few years ago
fingers crossed next year the global challenges have some shiny releases
treasures of ruin would be amazing
Shiny pao would be hype for me
real I looked forward to 7star ones esp bc shards were harder to come by
Chi yu also has an incredible shiny
i grinded the blissey raid event for one weekend (probably like 10 hours total?) and maxed all my shards 999 each and haven't refreshed my stock since then
the blissey event is shattered
@chrome knot are you playing in the st judes online charity tournament
13 days from now on that saturday
29th/30th weekend?
yep, I think they stretched it into a 2 day tourney with cut on Sunday
I DONT HAVE TIME TO PLAY
Kinda hoping I win the DevonCorp giveaway, otherwise after I get my first paycheck I might sign up
Bringing Custap Explosion Snorlax GL to all my opps
how has the move and job been?
It so is, especially shiny locking starters, from when you are given them (not including maesuda method)
Stressful
whats entry fee ill prob hop in
Still finalising a place, then need a bank account
5 smackaroos
I think it's a $5 donation to st judes as the entry fee
oh yeah ill jump in fs
i have to actually play online tourneys now before worlds
I have 2 sets I have to play next week and I have 0 prep done LOL
LOL the classic for me
One for Inkay Games and the other for the Region Rumble
love that
Dunno what ill run but fuck it we ball
Should I force Snorlax every time
Maybe not for Region Rumble
LOL
OH @molten oasis I FORGOT TO SHOW THE BOOTLEG LOOKING POKEMON FIGS
What?
So they're tiny, this is Monferno and it's honestly the best looking one
Lmfao
A monferno without a fire tail and a Tiara
Actually here's Zekrom
What happened to my son's head?
The head is shaped like a Charizard
Lol
Actually that one don't look as bad
Probably better than the monferno
Typhlosion
Ok where tf did you get these?
Some gift shop in Roswell
They're alien shit as well a UFO crashed there, but there was some Pokemon and DBZ stuff in one
Where are typhlosions eyes
Deliberd
Got this too
And my personal favorite, Marshtomp
And this
Krookodile’s going through some rough times
Keep in mind these things were $2 a pop, so I spent $14 on these
Just because they looked so fucking stupid
Kek Haunter
Ok but like, that doesn’t look that bad
What about this? Super skinny scizor
Lmao ok that’s pretty bad
Looks like an anorexic Larry the Lobster
You're not wrong
rapid strike urshifu is better yes?
i dont think single strike is good due having so many weaknesses while rapid strike has triple hit move that break through most pokemons i think
but i can be wrong
Correction: Single has 3 weaknesses while Rapid has 5
And hitting 3 times isn't always a benefit
Because you can take chip from rocky helmet but 3 times
Basically cutting it's HP by half when using Surging Strikes into a helmet mon
but rapid also seems have better move pool beacuse priority without relying that opponent attacks 
40BP vs 70BP though
Both forms get priority
it's not that simple
thats why i said without relying that opponent attacks
But thats not a big drawback
its pretty big
If you play right that drawback can sometimes be non-existant
you waste whole turn 
Wasting a turn isn't good but it doesn't automatically lose you the game
It can, but not always
thats why rapid strike seems better in every scenario
Just sucker punch the right mons and the drawback isn't bad
But if you land a Sucker Punch you do more damage
Even more than a rain-boosted aqua jet
was trying find out if there was any good argument single-strike choise 
I think Sucker Punch's drawback isn't bad because if you click it on the correct mons then it basically doesn't hurt the mon
there is but you're acting dense
like you have no counterplay to them protecting/switching on sucker
You beat the Calyrexs
And also Lunala and dawn wings
While also not being threatened too much by helmet
rocky helmet pokemons normally are pretty obvious tho (corviknight as example)
Ok but who runs corviknight in reg G?
are you a singles player?
And the rocky helmet mons aren't super obvious
yeah its much more fun than doubles
ah okay we are talking doubles
That explains it
thats why its shame single-strike has no usage there
in doubles?
I wouldn't call that "no usage"
I won't argue, you clearly don't know what you're talking about
talking of singles
i think majority plays singles so thats where i more focus haha
The majority here play VGC
And the only singles formats i play are on Smogon formats
Pokemon is so trash right now everyone uses the same Pokemon out of like 10 options the only thing you see change is fake out users or follow me users how can meta gross get one-shot by voltswich miraidon that's insane and they need to balance their 60 dollar game because all specteir glacier urshifu kyogre ogerpon and couple others just make it impossible to build a team that will go to masters with out spamming from this tiny pool of options
If you want to play doubles go ahead, you can still focus on singles but play doubles at the same time
No one is stopping you from playing VGC
If you don't want to play it then its ok
i mean i dont have second kubfu 🤣
i kinda disagree a bit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=418553327#gid=418553327
Hi 🐹
Welcome to the VGCPastes Repository
and Tour & Stats Gallery
Our Other Links:
🐦 Twitter,https://twitter.com/VGCPastes
🏅 Hall of Fame,SV Events 2023
🗒 Archives,http://tinyurl....
yes there is very spesific pools that are must and is limited what works and what not
I agree with you
The meta is actually quite diverse
Every meta is like that, uses the best options there is
yeah. I can probably get lucario fit in somewhere as long as i use most of team meta pokemons
And with some niche pokemon
On this honestly depends on the team you have
They're talking about BSS
But yeah you're right
just need steering it abit more carefully tho i can make lucario work most situations 
Oh BSS nvm idk shit other than they used to run Supreme Overlord Kingambit
but thats more singles as i got 0 experience on vgc double format
Also very interesting shitpost you have there
(Ik what it is ok, ik it's not a shitpost)
you could turn it into a shitpost copypasta with any game really
beacuse i got violet, my options are to extend limited unless i luck out on trades 🤣
eh frick it yolo on single strike urshifu
Why not
i just like single strike design more
even if it will be mistake do it
for me i hate rapid strike weird head
Agreed
⚠ Warned bigp73.
it looks like it got a hat @autumn vault
while single strike looks proper karate practitioner
Very fair point
@shut schooner Stop being a weirdo and grow up. Your complaints regarding how competitive pokemon plays out isn’t welcome especially when it’s pointless ranting
Your spreadsheet lost me tbh I have know idea what it is and mabey today's been extra hard but I see the same pokemon out of like 10 every match and it's just ridiculous this one specteir protected on a dark tera knock off and then after twra fairing protected on glyscore using poison jab so goofy
Also, apologies about before Exzlu
If you have so much time to complain about a children’s video game you should probably touch some grass
I'm trying to vent quit being a dick
You clearly knew what you were talking about, i just took it in the wrong context
spread sheets show pretty variety of pokemons used in competitive
Not excessively either
<@&663761167176433665> I leave my words here
competitive has variety while yes meta pokemons are strong and is used more, it doesnt mean you cant make adjustments and use some other pokemons aswell if you can get them fit in
i had horrible typo there
I apologize about before, you clearly know what you are talking about
it wont stop me experimenting and having Lucario in my team if i can make it work 
some cool teams there
i mean i used to play competitively in my country x and y times
but i lost my pokemon X so i quitted pokemon till this year
and got violet
better image of the teams
Tragic
W Shiliang Tang's team
like you can use your pick of 6-8 restricteds, multiple support options, etc.
just be creative and get better at the game and you're chilling
3ds and X gone just like that, dunno where i lost it so my event pokemons gone
You’re asking people devoid of thought to think
"Meta is same shit"
Me never fighting the same team that much even in Limitless tours: 🤔
When pigs fly
Tera Flying Oikologne
trying too, not acheiving that however
That reminds me when i lost my White 2 cartridge, in like 8 months i found it again while it was on my old 3DS
Yeah, very weird
i love being creative on teams. so if i can make SS and lucario work in same team, i'll be

XD nothing annoys me more than bad faith arguments
I can tell by that PFP that you love Lucario
well i lost it like 7-8 years ago
so nowhere to be found
That was a very long time ago
and i know its probs lost in somewhere on school trip
someone individually can not like this format and therefore not like the game, but they cant argue its' a holistic meta problem
Thats even worse
yeah.
You haven't come back at a bad time
RIP all my celebhi and such
I don't like this meta for example, becuase I am struggling at adapting to the restricteds format, not becuase of the meta but becuase my own play has tilted me
smeargle no.3 pog
Even better: If you don’t like something, don’t engage with it
What a fucking concept that is
well its also beacuse my precious maybe future SO also is named after one as its one of two his favs aswell
Yeah this ain't meta problems, I've seen people complain saying they hate Reg G, but like the people in the circuit I see say it don't really complain about meta
but if i had to pick one pokemon for my competitive team out of my favourites, sylveon would be primary choise
I'm stuck between rank 8 and 9 I'm really trying
Honestly
I like this format
You don’t come into a room full of people that like the thing you dislike and say it sucks LOL
Lol
Not you tofu
That’s just dumbassery
also... something to keep in mind... hard to like the meta when you're actively handicapping yourself a lot
Changed I'm not welcome to touch grass but that's crazy from someone who's on here way more than me
Im not any more lmao
I think we all need to simmer down
you can touch grass while browsing discord, though
basically they dont complain like you or me 
Understood Dust
probably the most calm I've seen the comp chat in a while
Its also easy to just say: either play the hand you’re dealt, or get good enough to do what you want
Lol this is so dumb
If you can’t do either, don’t play the game
Being on your phone means your not touching grass
Maybe so. However I see a snowball sitting on top of a hill right now and I’d like it if it didn’t start rolling
fair
I can literally take a picture of me touching grass lmao
Very good way to describe it
Ty
Man I'm just watching this
I’ve mentioned this before this is the third time they’ve come into this chat with the same rant complaint and theyve been warned before

This is the time they actually got tagged

I'm just frustrated especially when counters are played around and am trying to vent to some pokemon players I don't know why tofu takes it personal
@shut schooner If you’d like advice on how to progress past the rank that you’re stuck at then I’d be willing to open your mind up a bit to what the comp helpers have to say. Refusing advice just because you don’t like the meta won’t get you anywhere
well its more not taking it personal but it seems more like you vent here without discussing anything and when checking sources has varieties
so people might be fedup
No that's just it no one here actually tries to help me whenever I come here to vent they all just attack me
Not me though, they’re blocked. I only saw the context clue response and I had to check for due diligence because none of this bad faith ranting is welcome.
i assumed this was the case
I'm just trying to vent and I don't come in here often either
dont come vent here as this seems more discussion area than venting area
It's really not bad faith ranting
<@&663761167176433665> may i suggest venting channel where people can vent frustrations?

Yeah I'm trying to discuss how unfair Pokemon Scarlet is right now I wish they had a better ranked
Oh yeah, theres none iirc
This is more a place to get advice than vent about matches, even if someone cough does it a lot
I’m gonna say no right off the rip to that
i mean if you come with copypasta like that, not really discussion
Basically seems like starting a fire with gasoline
But all that happens is that tofu gets salty every time
That and meta discussion
thoughts on tingdozo in the current metagame? I think there is some merit behind the idea, especially since they both have great matchups into different restricteds and they can work very well together against fwg cores
And then you guys like link together
point taken
It plays slow but I can see it working
Literally just go rant somewhere else, this is so fuckin stupid
Not sure which restricted to use it with tho
I mean it's crazy because it's really just on a discussion that's about the truth
I think it's too pasive
that's what I'm stuck on
I’m advising that we all just drop it and change the subject and move on. If it continues I’m just gonna start dishing out mutes
Why are sword and shield Pokemon swamping the Scarlet ranked right now at least have a scarlet and violet only ranked mode or something
i think we've established its not truth but time to change topiuc 
need go walk dog and eat supper
Zama makes sense in my head since ting zama is, okay
I mean wo-chien plays quite passively yet its finding good success with Kyogre, so I think it can get around the passiveness
We've established you guys don't like that opinion I'm going to leave now but would be sweet
maybe i'll start dip my toe in vgc and have sparring partners
I tried Ting-Lu but the mon is too passive, you lack of offensive pressure so the most it does is just supporting with snarl or chipping with ruination
Wo chien is also a support for kyogre
You can always ask advice here
That’s its whole thing rn
yeah and its very good at its role
Last bit about this. I’ve said this before, if you want to vent, this is fine. If your venting involves excessive ranting, repeated copypasta, and just overall is inflammatory/excessive, it is not welcome.
Yeah the thing about that is that Ting-Lu can't do something like a 2v1 unlike Wo-Chien
Kyogre rain team will always be top tier in my book
This is my position as someone as helping manage this channel
what i understood ting-lu is more hazard setter with EQ as threat move
I can agree with that
fair just asking about credibility with the idea
And a moderator has agreed
I know nothing of competitive, I just find it facinating
I see zama working on it okay I just don’t think it’s great still
Kyreum oneshots kyogre but still takes water spout damage usually especially if they have a fast tail wind setter
It does Like 3/4
Ting dozo is just very slow although the idea is neat
Yes
we both know you're washed
I wish ice resisted water
Damn
Lmao
I got 69 winrate tho
ok, I'll try find something else more effective
wouldnt trick room kinda fix that?
Oh hai seal
Hi seal
Now I’m gonna go visit with my dad for Father’s Day. You all try to have a good rest of your day 
Thanks Dust
That’s not what I mean by slow
Have a good one with your dad
what I miss
The mons are slow yes
Nothing
crappypasta
But the way they play is slow
Moving on
Too slow to benefit from tr
Damn, Seal called Tofu washed
Whole concept of that duo is to trap and yawn
yeah
Idk, it can work just unsure where to go restricted wise
ok
It would be great if they made it to where any move OVER 100 can't hit multiple slots in competitive it would handicap the legends just right also let use take our whole teams in picking 3 or 4 is sad imo
The truth has been spoken
Didn't mean to reply
you havent played or seen much of comp then, thats how its always been
I like being clean
damn
I don’t need to be a sweat to be good at the game 😎
I know I'm talking ranked rn I would do so much better with my team of six
And no never been to a tournament lol
you mean break a sweat?
Everyone could teambuild far better
No he means Butter Blade
Mmm, butter blade
Butter Blade
Using Butter Butter Blade Blade for Master Master Ball Ball
I actually just bought a book called Butter
Butter Book?
Bro wake up they dropped Butter Book
WoodTofu more like WashedTofu.
Lol
I know you guys don't like what I say so you want to attack it but at least it is Pokemon related
What if instead of WoodTofu I was WoodWashed
That’s better.
i mean tofu usually comes in wet
Hell yeah I do
Like a slip n' slide
Incin with the 18 wins with 2 formats
Illumise? Interesting choice
Fighting
Inner Focus, Regenerator, Reckless (Hidden)
65/125/60/95/60/105
510
crazy that Ursh-R almost caught up to flutter despite flutter having a 5-6 month lead
rapid strike strong
It's the power of Guaranteed crits and Unseen Fist
Heatran, Dnite and Goltres was not on the list kekw
damn, sun teams are everywhere on ladder rn
and its annoying cuz my team doenst like sun

L
yep man just
choice band and swords dance koraidon, great mu's for my team
and grimmsnarl is getting on my fucking nerves
lots of torkoal too, why are these popping up now
skil issue
stfu
kek
If you had a team that could handle that better then you would have easily won
wow, thanks for the tip
drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky
great to hear after losing to another torkoal team
uh-
honestly not too sure
i’ve come across a few and i’m trying to figure out why there’s a resurgence

I guess cuz it's slower than Peli lol
im dooooone for this session
my team cannot handle speed control HO anythign so i have to reform the whole fuckig thing
what’s the team?
yomama
emma no
waht
tofu was suggestiong rockpon over waterpon, not really fond of it
and this team genuinely hates seeing any form of sun
with either of the ogers
bolt only does so much
it also hates trick room and ice rider hm
why not waterpon with tantrum?








