competitive_discussion

[willow vault]

You already have cress teams just use the pseudo rain team

[foggy lodge]

Gameplay

[willow vault]

Hi Tofu

[mighty stump]

Iron Moth is a fraud

[solid frigate]

I'll use both

[willow vault]

Ok

[mighty stump]

Who was that mono-Bug guy

What was that about

[willow vault]

Don’t know

[cyan smelt]

not sure that the mono-bug team could handle most restricteds tbh

[willow vault]

Neither but they seemed to be playing for fun more than anything so I didn’t want to push a comp agenda

[cyan smelt]

yeah but claiming that their team could handle most restricteds is misinformation

[willow vault]

I didn’t read that but that would be misinformation

[cyan smelt]

also it was low ladder stuff too

[willow vault]

Yeah

[cyan smelt]

but eh let people play the game how they want to

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu
Didn't you say earlier that Edu looks more happy or something?

If so, yeah he does

[gentle crag]

Reminder for @mighty stump

Reminder from YAGPDB

check rental

[warped mason]

Switch moth and jug.

[dull ibex]

hello

im enjoying the good stuffs team

[strange fjord]

The stuff is good

Man, Shiny Iron Thorns is cool but damn its so bad to use

[autumn vault]

Sad

If it didn't have electric in it's type and something that synergizes with rock then it wouldn't be that bad

I would have liked Dragon/Rock

I have a Shiny Valiant that i wan't to use eventually

Here is my tier list on the paradox pokemon

[strange fjord]

I can at least see how Sandy Shocks or Iron Threads can be viable but man. Iron Thorns is just not it rn

[autumn vault]

Sandy Shocks with gravity atleast helps Groudon

[cyan smelt]

i wish slither wing was better

[autumn vault]

And Treads walls bolt and Miraidon with AV

[strange fjord]

Iron Thorns is too fast for TR and too slow to outspeed 135 Pokemon with a +1 max speed

[cyan smelt]

iron thorns is just a worse ttar

[strange fjord]

And TTar isn't that great rn either

[autumn vault]

Slither wing is a worse Volcarona

[cyan smelt]

at least ttar has weather to make up for it

[strange fjord]

I just want to use cool looking Shiny Iron Thorns

[autumn vault]

Brute Bonnet is a worse amoonguss

[autumn vault]

It's shiny is very good

And unlike with the other violet paradoxes it actually fits Thorns and Valiant

[cyan smelt]

it'd be nice if most of the scarlet paradoxes weren't weak to fairy at the same time they introduced one of the most powerful fairies

[autumn vault]

Agree

The only Past paradoxes that aren't weak to flutter mane are Shocks and Gouging fire

Only Gouging has a good MU into it

[cyan smelt]

gouging can outspeed

[autumn vault]

The others either can't do enough damage to it or are weak to it

[cyan smelt]

and shocks is too slow to be able to do damage to it

[autumn vault]

On top of that it can't do enough damage to flutter to be considered decent against it

[cyan smelt]

it gets flash cannon but flutter is specially bulky

[warped mason]

As much as id like walking wake to be A, i don't think its on that level.

[autumn vault]

252 SpA Life Orb Sandy Shocks Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane: 88-107 (57.8 - 70.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Thats with Life Orb

252 SpA Sandy Shocks Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane: 68-82 (44.7 - 53.9%) -- 41.4% chance to 2HKO

[cyan smelt]

and with shocks you need to sacrifice spa to get the speed boost

or make it timid ig

[autumn vault]

252 SpA Life Orb Tera-Steel Sandy Shocks Flash Cannon vs. 172 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane: 133-159 (87.5 - 104.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

[cyan smelt]

you have to question what they're smoking when they keep making these overpowered pokemon

[autumn vault]

Yup

[autumn vault]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Electric Terrain: 231-272 (114.3 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Tera-Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal in Rain: 221-261 (109.4 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yeah you really have to sometimes

[strange fjord]

technically, clodsire survives both those attacks

https://tenor.com/view/clodsire-kyogre-what-if-doctor-strange-ultron-gif-27174766

[cyan smelt]

tinkaton- has an op signature move but 75 attack because they didn't want to make another zacian, also gamefreak makes a monster with 135 base sp attack with a similar signature move

also gamefreak, gives moonblast to one of the most powerful fairies

[craggy dagger]

hm?

[cyan smelt]

bm ursa blood moon and flutter mane moonblast

[autumn vault]

They didn't give Valiant Play Rough but they gave Flutter Mane Moonblast for some reason

He looks like he is trying to eat something golden ngl

[cyan smelt]

what's the bp on spirit break

[autumn vault]

75 BP

A bit underwhelming in BP

Atleast it lowers the target's SpA by one stage

[cyan smelt]

yeah moves with an additional effect tend to have lower bp

[craggy dagger]

flare blitz-

blizzard, bolt strike, blue flare, sacred fire

moonblast-

[cyan smelt]

i mean stuff that always drops a stat stage

[craggy dagger]

oh like guaranteed

[cyan smelt]

yeah should've worded it better

[craggy dagger]

sacred fire is a (theoretical) coin flip-

[solid frigate]

pago

[solid frigate]

if its not 100% Accurate its 50% Accurate

[cyan smelt]

sacred miss

[solid frigate]

Origin Miss

[cyan smelt]

precimiss blades

[solid frigate]

Spacial Miss

[cyan smelt]

tofu didn't delete the rental yet

[solid frigate]

huh

[cyan smelt]

the ceruledge one

[solid frigate]

ik which one

[craggy dagger]

cause it’s been formatted properly no?

[solid frigate]

its not

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

just look at the rental teams

[craggy dagger]

i’m missing something aren’t i

[mighty stump]

Has ut been four hours

[cyan smelt]

no rental code and no notes about how to use it

yes i saw the reminder earlier

[mighty stump]

Ok thanks

Gone

[solid frigate]

idk what happened to the team-

[craggy dagger]

oh there has to be a write up

[solid frigate]

lemme show you the team in dms

[cyan smelt]

seemed like you had to learn how to use the team via inference

[mighty stump]

I dont mind if its barebones

I just thinks its a very egregious mistake

Following the format is jn the pins and can be inferred from rentals above

Its why I gave only a few hours

If it was minor id give longer

[autumn vault]

Whats also odd is that Rai made rentals with all the information before

Don't know why this time they forgot it

[solid frigate]

i am not convinced that this team made all its way to Master Ball

let alone top 600

[autumn vault]

What was the team comp? I only remember Terapagos and Ceruledge

I would only send rentals if they helped me get to Master Rank or from 1000 elo to 1400 elo

[solid frigate]

Stonejourner,Tinkaton(with no Thunder Wave),Tornadus with Swagger and Chi Yu with Lava Plume

[autumn vault]

Oh fucking god

[solid frigate]

and its Meteor Beam Pagos.

[autumn vault]

I still remember the YUseMeta? team

That composition is quite terrible

https://pokepast.es/271ccda58a4d1c7a the team btw

[solid frigate]

Me and Nova discussed about it and she wants to build Turtle Team for serious now

[autumn vault]

Nova being serious? Impossible!

[solid frigate]

I AM NOT TRUSTING THAT-

[solid frigate]

i might help honestly,i need more insight for Terapagos

[autumn vault]

I played some Meteor Beam terapagos

So i have an idea on how it works

[solid frigate]

I AM NOT TRUSTING WHAT THAT COOKED HONESTLY

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/9ce4ce044f4c18b2 This is the terapagos Meteor Beam team i was talking about

[autumn vault]

We get it, you hate it
I hate it
I'm surprised that rental even existed

[solid frigate]

ok at least this make sense-

[solid frigate]

like how did it go to 1400

[autumn vault]

I can explain the evs and pokemon if you like

[solid frigate]

its alright i get it

[autumn vault]

Again: We get it, you hate it
I hate it
I'm surprised that rental even existed

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

Planning to make a Meteor Beam rental of Terapagos as the next rental

And since all my exams are finished this gives me a lot of time to make progress on the rental

You made CM rentals

[solid frigate]

yeah currently only calm Minds from Me and Pizza

[autumn vault]

And i might also make a CS Terapagos rental

And unlike Rai's team mine reaching 1400 elo is actually believable

[solid frigate]

yeah i am sticking with Calm Mind

[solid frigate]

My Team almost got into 1400 Elo

[autumn vault]

Nice

[craggy dagger]

HEY

[solid frigate]

close enough honestly

i have higher elo but your consistency is better

[craggy dagger]

i can be serious

[solid frigate]

i trust you!!!

[autumn vault]

Stay mad

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

Anyways i will reach 1400 elo with terapagos CS

[craggy dagger]

[willow vault]

Nice

[craggy dagger]

i’ll figure something out

[craggy dagger]

i think the most serious teams i’ve ever had were these

https://pokepast.es/e0fe18bb4b6f9a22

https://pokepast.es/554d2c5d89776e35

[craggy dagger]

then i stopped playing for a while

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[solid frigate]

i see

[craggy dagger]

though steel coat dengo was a bit overkill

[autumn vault]

Kyogre is adorable

[willow vault]

Yes it is

The water whale is adorable when not at max hp

[solid frigate]

its kinda one of the better items lol

rn Its more Leftovers

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jeong43va-gif-26917726

[willow vault]

Leftovers is very good on dengo rn

[solid frigate]

exactly

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-pokemon-horizons-gloogy-meal-gif-6738395697557175453

[craggy dagger]

it was early reg F

[craggy dagger]

just devours the pecha berry

[solid frigate]

fair enough,I'm still using the Metal coat version

[solid frigate]

my boi is hungy

[cyan smelt]

Terapagos is probably the most adorable legendary

[craggy dagger]

anyways off to bed-
it’s 1:23 am

[solid frigate]

Nebby

[solid frigate]

Sleep tight!

[cyan smelt]

Nebby is up there too

[solid frigate]

Cosmog,Terapagos and Meltan

maybe the Mythicals as well

some of them are cute

[willow vault]

No

[timber falcon]

I disagree

[solid frigate]

[cyan smelt]

also i just saw that previous rai team and that made my brain hurt

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/rawr-lugias-pokémon-show-baby-lugia-gif-6780484758658257411

i’m here to spread baby lugia propaganda before i actually sleep

[solid frigate]

Nova Sleep

[cyan smelt]

i didn't know baby lugia was a thing

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

Sleep Nova Sleep

[autumn vault]

I agree

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-bed-bedtime-sleep-gif-19177257

[timber falcon]

Yes it exits, and it’s the most adorable legendary

[cyan smelt]

baby lugia is pretty cute

[autumn vault]

Baby Lugia is anime-exclusive

I want to build an AV Groudon + Gouging team

Seems like a good duo

[cyan smelt]

clam for gouging?

[gentle crag]

fabianlian (ID 1094540085246046232)

[Message](#rental_teams message) in #rental_teams
looking for a miraidon dm me i can offer

Command triggered by lycopoky. Message from · Jun 9, 2024, 8:55 AM

[autumn vault]

Idk

Clear Amulet doesn't seem that good on gouging

What i want to use is AV Groudon + Howl Gouging Fire

[cyan smelt]

booster energy?

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/5fabc2e808b108a6

[autumn vault]

I already use sun so no

[autumn vault]

The team so far

I am going to need Raging Bolt and Flutter Mane for that team

And some non-sun reliant pokemon

[cyan smelt]

rillaboom

[autumn vault]

Not sure about an extra ice weakness

I am already planning to use Groudon Gouging Bolt FLutter

Thats 2 ice weaknesses already

I will find some ice resists for the last ones

[cyan smelt]

isn't CIR the only ice type you have to worry about

[timber dome]

I need help makeing a trickroom team

[autumn vault]

Yeah but i despise it

And in TR groudon can't counter it as easily

[cyan smelt]

I don't like csr

[summer shore]

Ping

Who ping

[autumn vault]

Me, someone messaged something in Rental Teams and it wasn't related to a rental

Someone deleted that message

[autumn vault]

This is proof of the message

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/6221054d5536e69c Opinions on this AV Groudon Gouging Team?

[willow vault]

You have double av on the team

[autumn vault]

I see

Well bolt can run something else i guess

[willow vault]

Also what’s your Incineroar counter, since av Groudon does not like it

Or should I say what’s the game plan vs an Incineroar on a balance team constantly switching in and out?

[autumn vault]

I have Urshifu-S banded

I'm playing a match rn, i will think about that later

I have to focus against this Solgaleo team

[willow vault]

Ok

[autumn vault]

I can spam Gouging Fire Howl for Groudon to later OHKO it with Precipice Blades

And i can also brute force it with Raging Bolt and Flutter Mane

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139859735-py0w773ew9qekn1m0i8bdtjo5lw3cxgpw Here is how that match went

[cyan smelt]

damn they're making caly-s bulky now

[autumn vault]

Probably to live Tera Water Surging Strikes

[cyan smelt]

exactly

[autumn vault]

But they're not prepared for Tera Water Rain Surging Strikes

Probably not

[cyan smelt]

this one was

the game i just watched it lived tera water rain surging strikes

i think

idk if that's possible

[autumn vault]

Me too

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139861907-qw40jmh6xwnog55vna7k19hizfbxnnkpw I also made it to 1400 elo with my CS Terapagos team

I will post a rental of it in a week

[cyan smelt]

damn terapagos is bulky

[mighty stump]

Wallahi go higher

[cyan smelt]

just watched a game and someone forgot how weezing worked, their ting lu used eq next to dialga and koed it lmao

this was someone with 1482 elo

[mighty stump]

Including myself I’m questioning everyone that isn’t top 10 on the ladder atp

[autumn vault]

Ik tofu

Just glad to know that my Specs terapagos team can function properly

[mighty stump]

I need to go grind out Bo3 ladder again

So much effort

So little time

[autumn vault]

Relatable

[cyan smelt]

and in this match i watched then someone terad their landorus into fairy in front of a parabolic charge miraidon

[autumn vault]

This reminds me of when a Metagross Tera'd into Ground and Kyogre just deleted it with Water Spout

Shouldn't have tera'd there

[cyan smelt]

the person who terad lando into fairy was 1615 elo

[autumn vault]

💀💀💀

The person that tera'd metagross into ground was one from ultra ball tier

[cyan smelt]

maybe they were expecting the draco meteor on lando

[autumn vault]

true

Mistakes happen

But still i wouldn't tera there

[sharp cobalt]

But they might make those mistakes

[cyan smelt]

better to force it to lower its spa than wipe you

[autumn vault]

Did they have tailwind up?

[cyan smelt]

no, no tw

[autumn vault]

252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 213-252 (121 - 143.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[cyan smelt]

they had caly-i as their restricted

[autumn vault]

252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sandsear Storm vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 174-211 (98.8 - 119.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

[cyan smelt]

so maybe they wanted to set up tr

the opponent was behind light screen i think

[autumn vault]

If there was tailwind i wouldn't tera but terastalizing there was a good play

Just that the opponent killed it with Parabolic charge ruining the predict

[cyan smelt]

parabolic charge miraidon is messed up

so strong after cm boost

[cyan smelt]

i'm wondering if i should put tera ground chi-yu on my team to replace ting lu

[cyan smelt]

it makes sense to me more because it synergises well with flutter, can deal with miraidon and incin and since i have sunny day that boosts it

also thinking bout getting rid of foul play on torn and running taunt

[chrome knot]

what is your team

[cyan smelt]

i'll grab a paste

https://pokepast.es/8b1f05a1725135a7

[chrome knot]

what the fuck is that

firstly taunt icy wind sets usually find 1 of the 3 big stabs to keep and then run protect as last bc staying power with that set is important, secondly while foul play on torn is cute it seems a little too flashy considering banded tinglu is not the smartest thing ever and can easily be scarf chi yu instead

or even like chien pao can go there to support zam

[cyan smelt]

oh that's not meant to be banded ting lu, that's meant to be rocky helm

[chrome knot]

tinglu also nerfs half ur team lol

[cyan smelt]

yeah it's not working so well

even when it was rocky helmet it wasn't so good

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/0d5d4f00d33a94ba just wanted a quick check up on this team, anything that can be improved?

[cyan smelt]

your team doesn't like kyogre

also it might struggle against koraidon teams as well

[chrome knot]

think i saw a team similar on naic stream

except koraidon

[timber falcon]

How come? Normally I like to have wake and rilla for those MUs, along with torn I thought it would help

Though I haven’t had too many games against it

[cyan smelt]

i was just thinking manual rain and archaludon that's all

lol someone has already ripped the overqwil team

(i'm watching you play someone rn)

[graceful flare]

Should I run parabolic charge miraidon with torn

[timber falcon]

Yeah I was gonna ask if that was you

I really thought that I would kill that lando there

Knew I should’ve tera watered

[timber falcon]

Please think about what you just said

[graceful flare]

O yea your right

If I run rain dance on torn I can't have protect

[timber falcon]

I mean maybe you could run tera ground

[graceful flare]

What abt whimsicott

Can it learn rain dance

[timber falcon]

Sadly no

[molten oasis]

No

[timber falcon]

Also why do you want rain?

[graceful flare]

Bc I want to use archaludon

[molten oasis]

Tornadus

[timber falcon]

I’m not seeing the synergy

[timber falcon]

He also wants to run parabolic charge mirai

I think you should just run peli atp

Also has wide guard

[molten oasis]

At that point why are you running Archaludon

[timber falcon]

Rain is not really needed for moraidon teams

[molten oasis]

Archaludon wants to be on a rain team

[graceful flare]

I don't belive in wide gaurd

[molten oasis]

Since when?

[timber falcon]

Made a mistake

[molten oasis]

Figured lol

[timber falcon]

[molten oasis]

You don’t like blocking astral barrage

[graceful flare]

Haven't run it once

[timber falcon]

I think you should try it

[molten oasis]

Or water spout, or glacial lance, or discharge, etc

[timber falcon]

Comes in handy for lots of common moves

Even snarl and icy wind

[molten oasis]

Struggle bug too

[graceful flare]

Yeah but I mean whenever I see a wide guard mon I just don't click spread moves

[timber falcon]

I’m talking about you using the wide guard mon

[graceful flare]

I can easily play around it to they should be able to aswell

[timber falcon]

Nothing wrong with playing it safe

What you’re doing is a guessing game there

[molten oasis]

Are you playing in high or low ladder

[timber falcon]

I’ve had many moments even after I revealed wide guard they click spread, it pins the mon into using wide guard

[graceful flare]

Ok then if I need wide guard I use speed boost iron valiant focus sah

[molten oasis]

…

[cyan smelt]

ok i'm gonna try my new team on bo3

[molten oasis]

ig that’s fine for a Mirai team

[timber falcon]

Good luck

[molten oasis]

I don’t think valiant is good however, just seems eh

[timber falcon]

I mean on moraidon team I can see it working

[graceful flare]

It has 4 moves syndrome

[timber falcon]

That’s for singles is it not?

Where it runs so many different sets

[molten oasis]

You’re killing me calling it moraidon

[timber falcon]

[graceful flare]

Idk I seen a guy talking abt it his channel was xbell

[timber falcon]

Idk why I even spelled it like that

[molten oasis]

Probably not a VGC player

[timber falcon]

Yeah it’s a singles meme

The unpredictable iron valiant spreads

[molten oasis]

Valiant has lackluster stats for VGC

[graceful flare]

It's a mixed attacker bro

[timber falcon]

We know

[molten oasis]

Mixed attackers are not typically good in VGC

[graceful flare]

Ok but should I let one of the stats go to waste or spread even

[timber falcon]

True you don’t see many, or any actually

[molten oasis]

Being decent on everything is not better than being really good at a couple things

[timber falcon]

Nah max out attack I say

Got a better CC there

[molten oasis]

The biggest example of a mixed attacker rn would probably be Archaludon and imo Archaludon is mostly a special attacker

It just usually runs body press

[timber falcon]

Carried by stamina for physical

[graceful flare]

Yeah but special moves too

Should I run protect?

[timber falcon]

But if you’re running sash I assume it wants to hit as hard as possible, CC is its strongest stab iicr

[timber falcon]

Depends on the set

[graceful flare]

What's iicr

[timber falcon]

If I can remember

[graceful flare]

I think protect wide guard cc moonblast

Or spirit break I think it's called

[timber falcon]

No no no don’t run moonblast and CC

[graceful flare]

Intimidate

[timber falcon]

Spirit break is fine

[timber falcon]

You have miraidon

[autumn vault]

Its fine

Focusing on one stat is better

But 2 is ok

Plus those stats don't need a lot of investment anyways

[molten oasis]

Speed booster sash Val is max speed max spA or physical Attack

[autumn vault]

Like 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Att

[molten oasis]

Pick an attack stat, don’t use both

[timber falcon]

If it’s a sash set, it’s better to be dishing out moves as hard as possible apart from natures, won’t make sense to run mixed set there, + spirit break helps against special attacks

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1006: Iron Valiant

Types

Fairy/Fighting

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/130/90/120/60/116

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

If its non sash then focusing on one stat is definetely the way to go

[molten oasis]

It has better physical attack so maybe do that

[timber falcon]

That too

[solid frigate]

unless you run support move but dunno

[timber falcon]

It’s supposed to be there mainly for wide guard

[molten oasis]

Supportive mons can run mixed but you usually still use your higher damaging move to do stuff

[solid frigate]

mhm

[molten oasis]

And higher attack stat

[timber falcon]

Like those CCs are gonna do some very nice chip

[solid frigate]

trust me i used an Iron Valiant in the DLC story and its good with CCs

[autumn vault]

Sash sets can run mixed sets without too many issues

[timber falcon]

But I don’t think there a good enough reason to do that

In this case

[autumn vault]

You hit pokemon at their weaker defensive stat

For non-sash i reccomend to focus on only one stat

Doesn't make that much sense to nerf one of your defensive stats when you don't have sash to save your ass

[autumn vault]

Its a menace in OU for several reasons

[cyan smelt]

i'm getting my ass whooped in bo3

[autumn vault]

Teambuilding/Playing skill issue

(jk probably not that)

[solid frigate]

thats offensive Valiant

rn Valiant is more supprtive in Reg G

[autumn vault]

Ik that

It has several tools for support

Wide Guard, Encore, Destiny bond (ig), Taunt, etc.

[cyan smelt]

bo3 is so hard

[solid frigate]

time to make another restricted Team

[cyan smelt]

finally won one

[solid frigate]

cool

[cyan smelt]

won another

[solid frigate]

nice

lemme just do some suprise trades for relaxing

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

kek

Free Iron Hands

[autumn vault]

Don't tell this to SV or Shiny hunting discussion channels

[solid frigate]

I mean

playing SV and i wanna see what i got

[autumn vault]

Fair

I need to get Iron Boulder and Iron Crown from Violet and then i have the past beast trio and future Swords of Justice

[solid frigate]

i already got them so i can make my Miraidon Team

[supple ether]

Raging Bolt is de wae

Let no one persuade you otherwise

[solid frigate]

Its just very good

[autumn vault]

Miraidon

Good Luck on the team btw

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/812f5b65c23b2e82

[cyan smelt]

damn, lost

[autumn vault]

Me, a Zekrom believer:

[solid frigate]

the concept is in Day 2 ok-

[autumn vault]

It isn't limited badly, its partially limited by the tecnology of it's time (iron crown)

[solid frigate]

also first time see someone put Terapagos's Theme in C tier

Imma bout to riot-

[willow vault]

C tier is crazy

[autumn vault]

Nice monologue you have there OTOT

Its atleast B tier imo

[willow vault]

That’s way too high, D tier at best

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

Its not super good but definetely not bad

[solid frigate]

i put it in S tier-

[willow vault]

[willow vault]

Your extremely biased

[solid frigate]

[solid frigate]

Lemme get my list one sec

[willow vault]

[autumn vault]

Me with Zekrom in April:

[solid frigate]

I have Third Legendary Bias.

[willow vault]

Yes

[solid frigate]

well except for Kyurem and Rayquaza

but i will remake this list

[tranquil kraken]

MEW???

[willow vault]

Torrent is extremely biased

[solid frigate]

i legit did not know but its the wild kanto battle theme

[solid frigate]

dude my name in the server is Terapagos Stan

cut me some slack

[willow vault]

No

[tranquil kraken]

ok fair its boring

[solid frigate]

i like the XY remix but thats it

[autumn vault]

LA Sinnoh Legend theme is too low imo, unless you hate drums

[solid frigate]

it's literally just Patternz putting Ultra Necrozma in top of S tier

[solid frigate]

I'm REMAKING THE LIST

[autumn vault]

Ok chill

No need to use caps

I just forgot

[chrome knot]

whyre they all so generalized lmfao

oh music

[solid frigate]

blame my past friends who put some of them low

[chrome knot]

no i mean the stuff in general

[solid frigate]

idk why we did that-

[chrome knot]

this list is a crime

send me the tierlist maker

[timber falcon]

How do you even remember and rate all those themes

[solid frigate]

Hey Blame my friends who want make with me

https://tiermaker.com/create/legendary-battle-theme-2022-updated-1464194

also

Like Why i can't have Bias

[timber falcon]

Everyone has bias in a way

[tranquil kraken]

I’m unbiased always

[timber falcon]

Impossible

[tranquil kraken]

No, ask me I’ll be unbiased

[solid frigate]

can i just have a break a put my second favourite Legendary's theme in No.1

[north pagoda]

Hi unbiased always, I’m Kris

[solid frigate]

Yes Giratina is still my No.1

[tranquil kraken]

Hi Kris, nice to meet you

See? Unbiased

[north pagoda]

Thanks, nice to meet you too, unbiased always

[tranquil kraken]

[solid frigate]

ili cracked the code

[tranquil kraken]

ofc

[autumn vault]

My tier list on the themes

[solid frigate]

Of course you put Unova bois in Top 10

while i can't put mine in Top of S Tier without everyone killing me

[autumn vault]

I was known as the Ultimate Zekrom Stan

Cut me some slack

[solid frigate]

If i can't cut some slack on putting Turtle Higher than nobody can

[autumn vault]

Any complaints that aren't about 1st and 2nd

[solid frigate]

I'm just gonna put the regis in one tier

[molten oasis]

Might do my own of those as well

[autumn vault]

Here it is Drago

[chrome knot]

this gets so hard once you weed out all the shit songs

[solid frigate]

sigh.

thank god my brain storage on the themes are huge

[chrome knot]

they really count koraidon/miraidon theme as paradise protocol fuck

this makes top tiers alot harder

[solid frigate]

hey blame the developers who code the theme

At least that is a cool theme

[chrome knot]

its a rly good one

I love the dlc2 trailers version of it

[autumn vault]

The only part where i completely disagree is the placement of the lake trio

[solid frigate]

i think all of the Legendary themes in SV are truly Masterpieces

[chrome knot]

YES

[solid frigate]

like even the weakest is Kieran and Terapagos Theme and i still put it A tier

[chrome knot]

there isnt a sv song below A tier atm 😭

[molten oasis]

This is gonna take me a while

[solid frigate]

Honestly Agree,they all slapped so hard

[molten oasis]

Lots of themes I haven’t listened to

[solid frigate]

fair

[autumn vault]

Thank god i listened to them a lot back then

I dislike both paradise protocol and wild pokemon in area 0

[chrome knot]

fucksake going in order ive made it to pla

and ALL of them are so good ffs

[solid frigate]

i think Pokemon is kinda like Sonic Series,

They both just said

Fuck the quality,Here's some music

[chrome knot]

WHAT

[solid frigate]

hey at least Pokemon Games Quality actually have some good ones periodically

[cyan smelt]

well i think my team sucks in bo3

[upbeat quail]

Why do my 90% accuracy moves always miss.

I feel cursed and I’m sick of it

[solid frigate]

show me

[chrome knot]

aight finally done

[solid frigate]

respectable

[chrome knot]

top 3 are just my go tos for vgc

[solid frigate]

Minus Pecharunt

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-arise-dog-pooch-car-window-gif-14577515

[solid frigate]

oh wait

[chrome knot]

wat

[solid frigate]

nvm i thought you mean the mons itself

[chrome knot]

no...

im a calyrex ice player

[solid frigate]

I am in PTSD

[chrome knot]

why trhat

[solid frigate]

Just a General PTSD on Calyrex

but i can't deny the music slaps

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139930772 first match of testing AV Groudon

[autumn vault]

Its good but there are many better themes imo

[shrewd scarab]

[autumn vault]

I see you Dust

[shrewd scarab]

G’day mate

[dull haven]

Hello, Monk, lol

[shrewd scarab]

Hey Khuja

[autumn vault]

G' day mods

[solid frigate]

dude you literally put that below average

[autumn vault]

Ik that

Just because its in below average doesn't mean its bad

And i said many better themes imo

Which means the majority

[solid frigate]

NAIC is live

[autumn vault]

?!

[solid frigate]

i have notis

[next stump]

VGC won’t be on for a few hours

they do all of TCG first

[solid frigate]

oh

welp i have some free time watching other shit

[bold geode]

Mods sliding in here lol

[solid frigate]

i won't complain

[bold geode]

Morning mother
How goes it

[dull haven]

It goes, am still kinda waking up. Might make a cup of coffee

[bold geode]

Honestly same lol

Kinda just waking up too

[chrome knot]

dont forget pokemon go first…

[solid frigate]

and unite..

right?

[autumn vault]

3 minutes left until it starts

NAIC just started

[chrome knot]

no they finished yday iirc

[autumn vault]

Ping me when the SV finals starts

I'm dying of boredom

[solid frigate]

good.

I hate that game

[molten oasis]

Here’s mine

[autumn vault]

The game is ruined
Thanks TiMi

😒

[molten oasis]

I’m a lot more accustomed to the newer music and I’m too lazy to go sit through 3 hours or music to remember the others so some are just there based on the other ones I saw

Also I’m biased to zacian theme that’s why it’s top 5

[solid frigate]

thats drastically different and i see why

[autumn vault]

And aslo Galarian birds

[solid frigate]

I put turtle in S and People bombard me

well top 1 but like

[molten oasis]

Galar birds theme is fucking fire

It’s so good

[solid frigate]

is certified underrated

[autumn vault]

This is mine

[solid frigate]

honestly,

[molten oasis]

Seems agreed on sv music is pretty up there

[solid frigate]

well unless if you are Lyco

[molten oasis]

Mostly ruinous and loyal 3/Pecharunt

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon in C is a crime

[autumn vault]

Guess i'm a criminal

[solid frigate]

I mean Ruinous is just banger and Loyal three is funky

[molten oasis]

Ruinous is just,

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gods-dancing-tunak-tunak-tun-grooves-celebrate-gif-16505282

[molten oasis]

Anyway

https://pokepast.es/e677b0eb790da60e

[solid frigate]

oh yeah 172 Jolly is able to Outspeed the Bikes

[autumn vault]

Yes i get it my opinions are basically hot takes

[molten oasis]

Outspeeds modest 252 Bloodmoon as well I believe

[cyan smelt]

my team really struggles against caly-s so i think i'm gonna put wide guard on zama

[solid frigate]

208 in Tailwind

your Zacian is 206

[torn parrot]

WILL ARNET

that’s the guy in the reeces ads

I knew I recognized his voice

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/destruction-laser-laser-eyes-magolor-kirby-gif-2849607610110385980

[torn parrot]

That’s been in my head a while
Completely flew over my head that bojack horseman was getting sexual with candy

[autumn vault]

They are very hot takes?
Sorry but this barely explains anything

[solid frigate]

they are more hotter than my Hot sauce back home

Perish

[autumn vault]

Honestly you are not wrong at all

There is a reason why people love disagreeing with me

It's honestly hilarious seeing their reaction sometimes

[solid frigate]

The hot takes are atrocious tho.

[autumn vault]

But hot takes i believe in

[solid frigate]

like literally I would put Ogerpon at B at least

putting it low C is just insulting-

[cyan smelt]

should i make chi-yu ghost tera instead to avoid fake out

[solid frigate]

Its also very good against Hitmontop Endgame if it does not have a move that is not a Normal or Fighting

[autumn vault]

That theme imo is very forgetable, and also quite boring

[autumn vault]

Yes

[molten oasis]

What?

[solid frigate]

oh wait its 209\

[molten oasis]

Not sure what you’re on about lol

[solid frigate]

my brain is still half awake

i am legit so damn tired

[timber falcon]

When are NAIC finals?

[chrome knot]

ears plastered on 🔥🔥

[autumn vault]

I don't care about people's opinion on my tier list 🔥

[chrome knot]

ok🔥🔥

[solid frigate]

idk

[molten oasis]

VGC isn’t for a while

[autumn vault]

We have no idea

[molten oasis]

For that reason I’m checking out the massive ww2 museum they have here

[autumn vault]

We will have to wait an hour or two

[autumn vault]

Can't say i blame you

[cyan smelt]

tera ghost chi yu is definitely better than tera ground

[solid frigate]

can you send me the location

[solid frigate]

100% better

[molten oasis]

Why?

Do you need the location?

[autumn vault]

Definetely

[solid frigate]

just want to know,i love history man

[molten oasis]

New Orleans

[cyan smelt]

idk why i thought listening to the showdown vgc room was a good idea

[molten oasis]

it’s the first thing

[autumn vault]

Theres a reason why i call it braindead

[molten oasis]

This chat isn’t much better at times

[solid frigate]

somehow they are stupid

Battery Charjabug with Terapagos-

[autumn vault]

Honestly not wrong

[solid frigate]

blame for some Randos and us sometimes go brainded-

[autumn vault]

I remember when i was building the sand team and someone said to me to change teras because it gets destroyed by Heatran apparently 💀

[molten oasis]

You guys make some absolutely wild takes at times

That are half the time just wrong

[autumn vault]

There were 3 tera fairys, 2 tera ghosts and 1 tera grass

[solid frigate]

but at least its better than some people in VGC chatroom in Showdown-

by a tiny bit

[autumn vault]

Agree

[chrome knot]

ground chi yu is a niche you don’t understand yet

[autumn vault]

I rather listen to people who i actually know what they say than the chatrooms full of low/mid elo with some high elo

[cyan smelt]

yeah i'm still pretty bad at bo3

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/05b76b7aec2ac051

Just look at the team i found in VGC chatrooms

[autumn vault]

Those names are made by a child

[solid frigate]

its good and i saw it on stream once

[autumn vault]

I remember an Iron Hands who used special attack and whirlwind in the chatrooms

Yeah trust me i /ignore them

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/65a3d4e96d239c80

Weakness Policy Lunala

And the Name is good but not worthy to use the name

[autumn vault]

That is way too far from good

[next stump]

tera ground chi-yu is usually on seen on miraidon teams and it’s definitely the better tera for that team

[solid frigate]

i mean the username

[autumn vault]

Made by you or one of your greninja stan accomplices?

[chrome knot]

or terapagos

[solid frigate]

i would just ignore that bullshit

[autumn vault]

Same

[solid frigate]

now i am interested 🙂

[autumn vault]

Chatrooms are not worth paying attention too

[solid frigate]

disgrace of Greninja fans

[autumn vault]

Very true

And Greninja is a very underrated starter

Thats just shame on it's name

[solid frigate]

ok you are smoking something.

[autumn vault]

I mean underrated as in good

[solid frigate]

anime fans glazing on them-

[autumn vault]

Overrated is bad

Gren is not overated

[solid frigate]

Gren is glazed by the Anime Fans

saying its broken,which honestly it isn't

[autumn vault]

Thats just factually wrong

[solid frigate]

if you say Greninja is good in Reg A i can see why but rn,its a Niche on top of Niche

[autumn vault]

I like Gren

But i never said it was good in the meta

[graceful flare]

I'm running wide gurd and cc on iron valiant what should I run in 2 empty moveslot

[solid frigate]

i'm a Greninja fan and i am only said him good in Smash

[cyan smelt]

drago's right about the wild takes in here lol

[autumn vault]

I can see why, i don't play smash anymore but maybe it is

[solid frigate]

[graceful flare]

Please adice

Advice

[solid frigate]

its a fun and difficult character to master

[autumn vault]

Thats very true

I couldn't get used to Gren when i played it

[solid frigate]

i can't tell how many years i play it to make it saucy

[autumn vault]

I played Steve Aegis and Dedede when i did play smash

Yes i'm aware dedede is bottom tier

[solid frigate]

Greninja Aegis and Toon Link

Yep 2 swordies and one half swordie

[graceful flare]

I'll take this as a I should only run 2 moves on mu iron valiant

[next stump]

@chrome knot only a few more hours until regional announcement 🙂

[chrome knot]

im so excited

i also shot justin burns twit dm abt his team, wanting to learn more about it tbh

[next stump]

my friend got COOKED by burns in round 1

I do think the ditto variant of Caly-I is probably the strongest right now

[chrome knot]

yeah its an insane team

[next stump]

ditto unironically solves multiple restricted matchups by itself

[chrome knot]

tho his teras and moves are what im questioning

[mighty stump]

Ditto good

[next stump]

like sure they can boost up Caly-S but then they’re screwing themselves over

[mighty stump]

But doesn't solve Terapagos tho

[chrome knot]

yeah its insane team sheet pressure

terapagos not aurelien team is relatively easy for cir

[next stump]

Terapagos I think is Caly-I favored overall the more I’ve played it

[mighty stump]

HOPagos is the best variant though

Rilly

[chrome knot]

yeah once the ball starts rolling its hard for terapagos to come back

[solid frigate]

how many Tortol Teams Left

[mighty stump]

Fair

[chrome knot]

esp if ur incin faster

you cook

[mighty stump]

Maybe cuz im running Max max modest specs

LOL

[chrome knot]

LMFAO YEAH THATD DO IT

[next stump]

yeah that 100% makes it tougher hahaha

[mighty stump]

I MEAN LIKE

IS JOLLY INCIN NOT A THRESHOLD PEOPLE SHOOLD BE HITTINGGG

[bold geode]

They announcing locations for next year's regionals today?

[next stump]

I just spam electroweb with eleki

[solid frigate]

wait what Teams are next

[mighty stump]

Btw im cooking hard

[next stump]

about half of them, the ones in late 2024

[chrome knot]

this but bolt

[bold geode]

Ah
Be sure to get those bitches down

[next stump]

Suica after our game was so shocked that my Caly-I outsped his Terapagos after one electroweb

[chrome knot]

damn wtf

[next stump]

come to find out that it was by one point lol

[chrome knot]

ur fast

[mighty stump]

What Spe would Suica be running on his Pagos?

Is he still running the same 6?

[next stump]

I was running 81SPE caly and he was running like 120 terapagos

[mighty stump]

lmao

[chrome knot]

at some point tho ur either cutting attack to be bulk or cutting hp to cover that spe

[mighty stump]

Ackchually I sold my IVs to a black market dealer who converted it to EVs

Calyrex has one less kidney but 252 more EVs

[chrome knot]

my speed stat similar to 81 but the evs are still intact for hitting like a truck

[mighty stump]

time to build my gf's team

[next stump]

Gary Qian was running 252SPE/252ATK swords dance Caly-I

to bluff that he was bulky

[chrome knot]

LMFAO

[solid frigate]

good luck on it-

[chrome knot]

what a chad

[graceful flare]

Pls iron valiant moveswt help

Already using wide guard and cc

[cyan smelt]

maybe chien-pao works better than chi-yu

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2139976224 My AV Groudon team is working

Only lost one match out of 5

https://pokepast.es/441077a70d0bba9e Here's the team btw

[timber falcon]

beeg missplays on from opponent

but the team looks decent

[autumn vault]

LOL

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/1faf1f45f6ef5dfa Btw i made Groudon fatser

[timber falcon]

whats the calc for?

[autumn vault]

At the cost of making it's offense worse

[autumn vault]

The speed is to outspeed Pelipper and max Speed jolly Incin

I already have howl to increase the damage output

[timber falcon]

Groudon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 164 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 52 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Precipice Blades
• Heat Crash
• Rock Slide
• Stomping Tantrum this is my spread btw

[autumn vault]

My set is way more simple than that one

[timber falcon]

oh those speed evs could be helpful hm

[autumn vault]

I run T-Punch to OHKO Pelipper

[timber falcon]

yeah i just run torn to help with weather changers

[autumn vault]

I don't run a secondary weathe setter

So checking Pelipper is a must

I think 2 ways of beating it is enough

[timber falcon]

i think secondary setter is a must tbh, cause in rain groudon has 0 ways of not getting hit by water moves especially for AV

[autumn vault]

I have Bolt to help against Rain

And Gouging Supports it a lot

And T-Wave Grimmsnarl can slow down powerful threats to be killed by Grudon before doing anything

[tranquil kraken]

whens the broadcast today?

[autumn vault]

Which also helps against pelipper and kyogree

Yes i am pronouncing Groudon and Kyogre badly intentionally

[mighty stump]

dunno

We still need to finish off PoGo and then I assume TCG

[timber falcon]

eh i feel like kyogre, especially AV is a problem 4 that team

[tranquil kraken]

o

:(

[cyan smelt]

is kyogre still a problem for your team OTOT

[autumn vault]

Raging Bolt Banded urshifu-S and Light Screen T-wave Grimmsnarl:

[timber falcon]

i have my ways though

[timber falcon]

i referring to the wo chien one btw

i do think tw would help groudon there

[autumn vault]

Gouging and Banded urshifu:

And also Flutter Mane

[timber falcon]

btw i have meticulously planned for kyogre MU

[solid frigate]

imagine Kyogre wins NAIC

[autumn vault]

Imagine a sun setter wins, that would be crazy

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

Seems very believable

[timber falcon]

true i think flutter and shifu will be ur best bet, half the time theyre gonna tera posion

so groudon might also gets a nice hit in

[autumn vault]

Groudon with precipiss blades and stomping tantrum:

[timber falcon]

yeah i said that

i managed to OHKO one lol

crit through their screens

[autumn vault]

Lucky

[timber falcon]

lucky indeed

[autumn vault]

Did you notice that i said preci__piss__ blades

Thats how you say it if you are from an english country of europe

[timber falcon]

oh no i didnt

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-gif-21913178

[timber falcon]

but now i learnt how to do that underline thing

[autumn vault]

This will never be forgotten lmao

[timber falcon]

HOW DID U DO IT SO FAST

[autumn vault]

Idk

I am just naturally a fast typer

And i also have a quick reaction timing

[timber falcon]

i thought i was smooth with it

[autumn vault]

You got ways to go son

Anyways so what what is your opinion on fast Groudon?

[timber falcon]

good stuff

[autumn vault]

I run T-Punch to specifically destroy Pelipper and Urshifu-S

And outspeeding Pelipper also helps

[timber falcon]

yeah i can see why thats helpull, i might switch rockslide to that

[autumn vault]

Its also much more consistent than Rock Slide

[timber falcon]

true, my idea behind it was for an extra spread option, thats more accurate that pblades

[autumn vault]

4 SpA Pelipper Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Groudon in Rain: 120-144 (57.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Pelipper Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Groudon in Rain: 168-198 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[autumn vault]

I really like Precipice Blades Heat Crash Stomping Tantrum and Thunder Punch as the moveset

[cyan smelt]

i think i'm liking chi yu more than ting lu

[autumn vault]

140+ Atk Groudon Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 76+ Def Pelipper: 164-196 (98.2 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Btw this always OHKOs

[cyan smelt]

unless it's sash

[autumn vault]

Always outspeeds Peli unless it is in Tailwind

[timber falcon]

when i calc peli why does it say 200 BP

now its sayng 20BP

252+ SpA Pelipper Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 164 HP / 52 SpD Assault Vest Groudon in Rain: 300-354 (78.5 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO btw this is my calc

pretty sure it also lives most astral barrages

+2 252 SpA Tera Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 164 HP / 52 SpD Assault Vest Groudon: 322-380 (84.2 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

yeah

why is vgc the last event

[solid frigate]

idk

[autumn vault]

We don't know OT

[cyan smelt]

because why not

[next stump]

because it gets the most viewers

they’d rather the numbers built up slowly throughout the stream rather than peak then drop off

[timber falcon]

oh that makes sense ig

[autumn vault]

+2 252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Groudon: 173-204 (83.5 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Try harder

[timber falcon]

tera ghost lul

[autumn vault]

+2 252 SpA Tera-Ghost Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Groudon: 178-210 (85.9 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

These are odds i like

[timber falcon]

eh i like a guranteed chance

[autumn vault]

You still survive unless you are very unlucky and you spare 8 evs which can be valuable

I prefer 6.3% chance to OHKO over Guaranteed 2HKO

[timber falcon]

up to you ig, i dont like rolls

[torn parrot]

Guess we have a bit to go until

finals

Which two restricteds are gonna duke it out?

[cyan smelt]

wasn't it cs pagos and cir

[bold geode]

Terapagos and CIR

[torn parrot]

Sounds thrilling

🐇

[autumn vault]

Hope Pagos wins

I despise CIR the most

[chrome knot]

[autumn vault]

Behind Miraidon obv

[bold geode]

I don't think CIR has won?

[chrome knot]

go cir !

[autumn vault]

It hasn't

[torn parrot]

is it nasty plot draining kiss

[bold geode]

Oh nvm it won a special event in LA region

[autumn vault]

Pedro!

[mighty stump]

Hope Pagos wins to cement my clairvoyance

[autumn vault]

Hopefully Pagos can win this tournament unlike what happened in Indianopolis

[torn parrot]

I would have loved it if wo chein made it

[autumn vault]

You want Moxie Boosted to be the happiest man ever?

[torn parrot]

Yes

[autumn vault]

I can't say i blame you

He isn't a bad person

[bold geode]

Wo Chien getting top 8 though is still good

[autumn vault]

He's a good one

[cyan smelt]

is lorb chien pao a thing now

[bold geode]

Barely

[torn parrot]

It’s life orb Chien Pao?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[torn parrot]

That’s interesting

[mighty stump]

LO Adamant Pao

The Japanese have been on that for a while

[bold geode]

It started in Reg D I believe?

[mighty stump]

Some run Ice Shard

no Sacred Sword too

[torn parrot]

Stellar tera?

[mighty stump]

Stellar Tera

[cyan smelt]

yes

[autumn vault]

Always the damn Japanese when it comes to weird/odd sets

[torn parrot]

that makes sense

[mighty stump]

I like LO Pao

[chrome knot]

some run double dark crash

[torn parrot]

If your going life orb you might as well invest in the damage

[mighty stump]

Yeah thats what im running

[autumn vault]

I never played it so i can't judge it

[chrome knot]

scary

[bold geode]

LO Pao is stupid
The amount of damage it does lmao

[autumn vault]

But it does seem very good

[mighty stump]

Easiest 1700s/1800s of my life with HOPagos

PaoShifu carries

I have converted to Specs Pagos

I like all Pagos sets now

[bold geode]

Fortunately idt you need to like calc for LO? Especially considering you basically can't calc for it reasonably

[autumn vault]

I'm too used to Sash Chien Pao, i heard L-Orb chien pao play differently

[mighty stump]

Can't play like a bitch if you gon play LO Pao

[timber falcon]

good for you

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah well done nice climb

[bold geode]

Yeah LO Pao is pedal to the floor basically lol

[mighty stump]

2nd Snorlax team to hit 1800s now I'm on my third Snorlax team

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump between justin burns cir & aurelien ho pagos for july prize pool tour ngl

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Sucker Punch (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 156-188 (75.3 - 90.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Ok that shouldn't do that much to a CIR

[mighty stump]

HOPagos is just fun to say

[mighty stump]

you OHKO with Throat Chop lol

Although

The real crime is

Not guaranteeing an OHKO without Stellar

[bold geode]

I didn't like the team as a Zamazenta player, so I always called it TerapaHOs

[chrome knot]

not helpful!!

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Throat Chop (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 180-216 (86.9 - 104.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
I can see why you like it

[mighty stump]

I like Suicas;

[mighty stump]

U forgor LO

[bold geode]

Wow Tofu being converted actually
Bro was CM Pagos man

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[mighty stump]

Actually

MBeam PHerb

[autumn vault]

252+ Atk Life Orb Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Throat Chop (1st Use) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 234-281 (113 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Much better numbers

[timber falcon]

ouch

[bold geode]

I honestly think yeah just a Meteor Beam set is the best of both worlds

[mighty stump]

Regice >>>

[autumn vault]

Hurts you a lot

I can tell because you love Lugia

[bold geode]

Like no CM, no Specs
MBeam PHerb

[timber falcon]

i dont think lugia made the vid though, cant say the same for the fridge

[autumn vault]

You're right

Lugia wasn't on the list of bad legends, yet

[bold geode]

Oh he talked shit about Munkidori lmao

[timber falcon]

[autumn vault]

When restricted list comes, that will be bad for you OT

[autumn vault]

And i love how brutally honest he was about it

He said "nothing good about Munkidori" and he's not wrong

[bold geode]

Tbf he was one of the casters in Indy and Chance showed it off on stream
Shows it has something compared to all the other shit

Oh yeah Munkidori is fuckin horrible

[autumn vault]

I'm also surprised Fezandipity and Regirock did not show up on that list

Both aren't that good imo

[timber falcon]

lol maybe in CTS frisk munkidori would be somewhat helpful

[autumn vault]

Yes but most of the time you can guess the item yourself

[bold geode]

And I hate him too cuz he was an annoying little bastard to catch
Literally had to bring Kingambit to make sure I couldn't be hit and just throw balls at it
AND EVEN GOING THAT ROUTE IT TOOK ME 2 TIMES

[timber falcon]

fezandipity i can see working, not sure why regirock wasnt on the list

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1016: Fezandipiti

Types

Poison/Fairy

Abilities

Toxic Chain, Technician (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/91/82/70/125/99

Total

555

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

Oh yeah, thing nearly swept my team

[dapper crag]

Fezandipiti's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Beat Up, Brave Bird, Cross Poison, Double Kick, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fly, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Lash Out, Peck, Play Rough, Poison Jab, Poison Tail, Quick Attack, Shadow Claw, Tail Slap, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Alluring Voice, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Heat Wave, Hex, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Moonblast, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Venoshock

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Calm Mind, Charm, Endure, Flatter, Light Screen, Nasty Plot, Poison Gas, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Roost, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Fezandipiti.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

Nasty Plot is not nice at all

Especially on a legend you are trying to catch