#competitive_discussion
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Aight I'm back from stuff, who's winning
not yet
Well who's in the lead
Rillaboom have to carry this-
both 3 at piece
omg the miss-
God
PR would have won the game
This is so fucking close-
oh my god
Why are there two ballsy players in top 4
idfk
Tf
Guess its Caly mirrors now
omg....
Did he just realize it was Joever?
i can't watch this stream anymore-
Did Zac get out?
Yes.
Damn, good run
Still top 4
RNG lost the game
And lost because of RNG
We love RNGsus
basically what Drago be like
Missing a Play Rough and High Horsepower
figured
2 HH btw
Good run Zac good run
Caly mirror, interesting
Semi Caly Mirror but yeah-
Honse v Honse
Regional streams for NA started with Honse v Honse and will end with Honse v Honse (NAIC ain't a regional)
Poetic
Zacian was so close as well
It’s ok, 3rd is enough for redemption imo
it would be so beautiful if both Doggos won a regional
I want Ice Honse to take it
It would have been indeed beautiful
Gotta say I’m really loving the variety of regional top cuts
Seeing both having a redemption with Zama finally get spotlight in Paldea and Zacian overcoming the weakness of the nerf
Funny unintentional pun
But yea uh, Zac just has that, and intimidate, as it’s major weaknesses
it overcome so far as well
You can kinda build to handle steel/fire types
Losing Urshifu is kinda the thing
Yeah also
- They brought Incin to Game 3, which didn't matter cuz they predicted with SD turns
- Did you scarf down your food holy shit
this is just sad while the Caly Ice lands all the High Horsepower
ya know what,lets make it have No Guard
totally fair
Even with Urshifu special defense I’m surprised all it took was a raw Draco meteor
Oh nvm
Booster energy
The draining kiss setup build seems annoying
yeah this could work againt it
Booster + -2 Spdef as well
Oh this ain't even the worst one
The other one in top 4 was Covert Cloak

I’m guessing the covert cloak over clear amulet is for the additional bennifit of blocking fake out after Tera
DAMN GOOD PLAY
I think my Pokémon break is over soon
THIS IS GONNA BE A SLAUGHTER
Yeah
I fought Tofu and he used it
It's fucking disgusting
Who's winning
My dumbass ain't watching
I'm guessing Caly S
Yep
Welp
Jugulis come back
Yeah Nasty Plot, A kill on Bolt,A kill on Caly Ice and i think another plot?
THE CALYREX SHADOW RIDER CYCLE IS COMING BACK
welp
+6 calyrex kinda does a bit of damage.
honestly i would root for Caly Shadow rn
wrong orb my bad
We didn't prep enough for Calyrex Shadow and now it's back
Plus people finally figured out 2 STABS wasn't it
Well I was gonna drop the Stellar Tera Blast Urshifu but like
Now it's looking like lmao
hooo boi
AHHHH
I think i've fully made the best team i possibly can https://pokepast.es/a91c4955265b52ec
WHY THIS IS SO CLOSE
huh
its finals in LA region
ohhhhhhh
ALL HAIL SHADOW RIDER
All Hail Shadow rider
I'm going to make it
Ass
Well fuck it lemme just fill it out
LMAO
welp that give me more reason to make a Calyrex Shadow team
Time to slap Tera Dark and Dark/Normal types on the team again
Lmao
Wait
Terapagos might get Profit from it
who won
Shadow Rider
ah
Now i have a good reason to build a team around it
and then Terapagos gets more profit
GIMME THAT UMBREON
i might bring back Incineroar
I can already see the complaining even after Zacian hit top 4
my complaining? yes
although i need to, not
and just play better
well, no i dont really have any excuse now
its funny that Terapagos,Miraidon,Zamazenta and Caly S knocking Caly I down from all 3 Regionals Top Cut
i shouldnt complain
true
Zacian in Top cut is already a big improvement
its like, im complaining and not actually fixing the issue
https://pokepast.es/69fca02ad20d9128 testing this tomorrow
i have to lock something by wednesday so i have smth to practice with
My boy Montana went all the way. Impressive. He goes to my locals
well the cycle restarts back to when people over prep Caly S
jsut gotta, keep control, stay calm, and learn how to recover from matches
and not stress
LMAO
THERE WE GO
Alright check this off and check that off.....
that +6 is hilarious yet Horrifying
i would say boi might get Stonks back now Caly S would have more team
damn, thats nuts
rn i am jamming on All Hail Shadow cuz why the heck not
literally what happened
I already made mine
Shadowrider won?
It was only a matter of time, right
i rather Caly S won over Caly Ice
wait
dawn wings Entei feels Lit
personally i rather it won rather than Caly I
Good on the player but I was in the middle of using Skeledirge
huh
Shadow rider stocks are gonna go up
So does Terapagos cuz of Natural Typing Immune to Astral Barrage
I mean Terapagos could be a nice restricted to pair Skele
Chandelure tho
It just gonna feel weird using it
i don't feel it works but like sure
I was talking about Terapagos
exactly what i said about
i rather using Chi Yu cuz it helps on boosting Terapagos's Damage Output
Plus I just feel its more natural to run Scarf Chi Yu
Yeah for sure
https://pokepast.es/2c71dfd01f5f16c1
Yeah i kinda did not change yet
I don't know if i already posted it but here's my tier list of restricteds
imo Miraidon is A borderline S
I just wanted to have 4 on each tier but yeah, Miraidon is almost S tier
hmmmmmm look kinda interesting
i just changed Caly S placement higher than Koraidon
i might put Zacian Higher
i should make a tier list of the non restricted Pokémon
Thats like
Yesss please
Zacian is the 9th restricted imo
Maybe top 8
also Andrew Zheng Got Karma'd by betraying the Turtle
If we ignore the fact that the crowned forms exist it's not so bad
Zamazenta could run leftovers and Zacian Clear Amulet
true
but like nobody would use it
Andrew Zheng:Did not make it to Day 2 with Lunala after Betraying Terapagos
Me:Happi noises
yes they are lmao
they are not worth running as your restricted
gonna put Zacian Crowned at top 8 now
i saw
groudon copium
Imma start playing Lunala
you gonna stick with lunala?
it got boring fast
zacian doesnt get boring to me
Groudon just why
especailly when i go click the funny tera blast button
He technically got Karma'd-
i am mini terapagos, i punish your tera's

Terapagos might gain profit if Shadow Rider won
Terapagos basically non existent in LA-
only 9% is kinda small
probably because of zama
Yayy
i kinda wanna see More Tortol
I did my monthly masterball run I feel good
Might climbs later on before season ends
noice
nice, with what
did it bully terapagos
bro had the audacity to say Terapagos Mid-
when is his fault for not sending Amoonguss in G3
he lost to a terapagos too?
do not blame your Pokemon,blame your Plays
remember Indy-
oh, right
My zamazenta team
It was pretty smooth
I’ll probably climb the ladder and try to rank high with it before next month or I’ll chill and not do that and draw art
nice
dude Terapagos aain't mid and i am stand by to this point
Someone has a tier list of all fully evolved Pokémon post DLC?
its not
Terapagos is one of the best resticteds
You really think the 35 dollars restricted is bad?
Lmao
well tell that to Andrew Zheng
Cap
i am still livid
the restricteds you have to buy are just strong lol
even the legendaries you can buy are strong
Terapagos is just a well Balanced DLC Legendary compare to Calyrex
like i am not joking
but what Terapagos Excels is Versatility
Andrew:
ehhh
erase the mid part
uhhh
it has specs sets and cm cloak sets
kinda seeing VGC Pokemon Spotlight Terapagos got 3 sets
Rock polish set too
Power Herb is also Mentioned
dont remind me of rock polish sets
CM is good but i see maybe it could be win something like a local, but more than day 2 in a regional i don't see it
that can throw them out of the window
Uhhh power herb is good
it makes it suffer on 4 move syndrome even more
choice specs is it's best set and meteor herb is an option if you want more versatility, like protect
Yeah I think it’s an unnecessary set
agree until i actually used it along with Calm Mind
252+ SpA Choice Specs Terapagos-Terastal Tera Starstorm vs. 244 HP / 148 SpD Umbreon: 103-123 (51.2 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO i was curious, thats funny
Turtle go brrrrr
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 244 HP / 148 SpD Umbreon: 72-85 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 
Umbreon is so good man
But people use it wrong
I've faced a lot of Umbreon on ladder
but able two shot an Umbreon is Impressive
why tf they run toxic
im excited to give it a shot
normally is hard to kill Umbreon
The Zacian guy's Umbreon was really good
agreed
ok, that, its specs
its basically a +1 right in the bag
i was impressed it didn't do more than that
Dark
Synchronize, Inner Focus (Hidden)
95/65/110/60/130/65
525
Same HP as Inci right?
i think yeah
Fire/Dark
Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)
95/115/90/80/90/60
530
same HP but WAY Bulkier
its bulkier than incin
But Inci has intimidate so it normally feels bulkier than Umbreon on that side
yeah
I feel like the Zacian guy maybe had some help of the regional being more HO because wtf is that Inci usage
i might need to reuse my Old Team for Caly S or i can fuse both of them at the same time
Terapagos Wo-Chien?
Moxie did run Caly S Wo Chien Before
or should i go back to Grimmsnarl
oh did peli fall off the board? thats funny
moment
eh, he had tools to handle it
and he was SD Zacian
you can still hit it
https://pokepast.es/eb109007b0f7d555
Does this Fused team work?
high horse on rilla if youre going tera ground
and Might Change Grimmsnarl with T-Wave
tera ghost chi yu
its more up to what you need
yeah since i don't have Incin anymore so i'll stick with Grimmsnarl being the one
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well, have fun with that team
that replay is just Torn Shifu moment
I tallied it
Across all of my games I played
I have a 40% Sleep Powder accuracy rate
RNG moment
You know whats even better
60% of the hit Sleep Powders (rounded to whole number) were all 1 Turn Sleep
where is that meme where Nemona said ahh Pokemon battle am i right
Cuz that perfectly tell about how RNG can screw things up
thanks
morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to pizza.time
I return
hoi
suh
i'm good
Solgaleo??
clean up time
moment
https://pokepast.es/bf05a13cc8d1e04e
Oh yeah also made a Caly S team
pog im trying to not be dog at this game
cool
we are getting there I thnik
mhm
WAIT THIS TORTOL TEAM LOOKS INTERESTING
also Covert and amulet>Leftovers
yep that turtle team looks hot garbage
lmao
no sash on chien pao,leftovers is just miserable
hybrid Tailroom is hard to play
and did he just spam Starstorm-
yes
thats rookie mistake-
you need alot of set up to do that
"skill"
yep i don't know wtf happen to that team

@dusk mist First, #rental_teams isn't for messaging. Second, just rent it. The code is right there.
in a 1v1 situation, what would toxapex hate?
Something it can’t toxic stall, with super effective moves. Maybe like a magnezone
hmm
i kinda like koraidon firepon now
firepon helps dealing with fairy types, so i dont have to always tera fire koraidon
also helps against kyogre
also thinking of funny run of trailblaze 
but also koraidon rilla firepon is nice for grassy spam
going quite well with a weird set 
making a singles team is stupidly hard
unlike vgc, i dont even think there are certain MUs u can account for
Which singles format?
nat dex..............
First step of action would be Landorus-T. It’s probably the best mon in Nat dex, it can hit a ton of meta threats for stab super effective like tapu koko, Heatran, Raging Bolt and iron crown. You will want a way to effectively hit a landorus-T since it is so good into most meta threats. Something like Urshifu-R can work great.
I would also suggest having a tapu of your own, to be able to hit Urshifu that threaten your Landorus. Tapu koko makes a lot of sense for that. I don’t know much else of the format but that should help
the problem is i dont think natdex has a meta
every game i see smth comlpletely different
and mons with insane bulk that i cant seem to down
The additional benefit of being able to hit Landorus-T also allows you to get rid of gliscor which is a key defensive piece
i think i will go with shifu then
Whilst Heatran isn’t perfect it does help into the tapu’s and having a steel type is great with all their resistances
Could also go for corviknight for the same reasoning
Why isnt there an intimate for special attackers
av?
Some ovbvious stuff aswell like having a Defog/ rapid spin user and a grounded poison if toxic spikes is common
yeah ive been tryna account for things like this, rocks would be really helpful to punish pivot spam, but what would i use to set them up?
I mean Landorus-T gets both rocks and defog
thats the thing, wont defog remove mine too?
And u-turn to pivot
Lowers the target's evasiveness by 1 stage. If this move is successful and whether or not the target's evasiveness was affected, the effects of Reflect, Light Screen, Aurora Veil, Safeguard, Mist, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the target's side, and the effects of Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the user's side. Ignores a target's substitute, although a substitute will still block the lowering of evasiveness. If there is a terrain active and this move is successful, the terrain will be cleared.
Flying
Status
0
—
15 (24)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.
does it not get rid of mine?
oh this entire time ive been reluctant of defog cause of that lol
It does remove yours never mind
oh
Treads seems to be one of the better rapid spinners
Ground/Steel
Quark Drive
90/112/120/72/70/106
570
240kg (120 BP)
0.9m
Generation 9
Undiscovered
N/A: 100%
Gray
im thinking fwg core?
I mean there are only two rapid spin users in natdex out there, in great risk and iron treads
Smart
this is what I got from like 15 minutes of thinking https://pokepast.es/649dc5c75a51e885
3 Mons that can remove hazards, 2 rock setters. Ferrothorn which is a defensive menace with pelipper protecting it's fire weakness. Urshifu-R does alot of damage in rain. Landorus is Landorus, and tapu lele for great damage into threats. Iron Treads has ice spinner to remove gliscor who otherwise walls it and your landorus
https://pokepast.es/ea3ab5c3de379f68 oh this is the direction i went
This should give you a way to deal with, Landorus-T, Heatran, Gliscor, Urshifu (with Ferrothorn), Dragonite, Zamazenta. Your may find Tapu lele to be a tougher matchup but Tapu-Koko is exremely dangerous against this team if you lose your landorus and treads
Yeah that team should work well, I don't play NatDex so I may be wrong
Your team also uses Mega which mine doesn't so that helps you alot
i also seem to have forgotten z moves
That's ok
This move becomes a physical attack if the user's Attack is greater than its Special Attack, including stat stage changes. This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.
Psychic
Special
100
100
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
Yikes
Maybe having hisuian samurott could help, it still fills the water type role but can also set up spikes with ceaseless blade and hits necrozma
prolly due to missing both maga storms on heatran
Unfortunate
true i might try that
Ok
i feel like i should be focusing on one mon yk
like a mon to build around, instead of just slapping some here and there
Ok
Welp I played towards how they lost and I worked. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2131374915
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Would anyone help me make a team include Flutter main and out of Kommo-o or Koraidon?
Fairy
Intrepid Sword
92/120/115/80/115/138
660
Zacian-Crowned
Fairy/Steel
Intrepid Sword
92/150/115/80/115/148
700
355kg (120 BP)
2.8m
Generation 8
Zacian
Undiscovered
N/A: 100%
Rusted Sword
This Pokémon only appears in battle.
Blue
Why does only one list the weight
Only zamazenta gets low kick
Except they're both Zacian
Oh, idk then
You good at making teams?
Not really

Who can?
And unfortunately I’m still essay writing
...

if you want help with teambuilding i need a paste
They wanna use..
Would anyone help me make a team include Flutter main and out of Kommo-o or Koraidon?
there are no koraidon rentals, gimme 1 sec
Or the ice dragon
Baxcalibur? Kyurem?
Bax
Well there technically will be one soon
nice
https://pokepast.es/23fdde0cdee766c3 there ya go
its just slapped together, but thats what you could use
oh torn might have the wrong, if it has rain dance give it sunny day
nvm it has sunny day
raging bolt is in the s/v dlc
you can get torn in the swsh dlc or in legends arceus
wasnt the timer for raging is up
that was walking wake
you can get raging bolt though Perrin in the dlc
indigo disk specifically
im only in the main game right now
...that makes this significantly harder
i think the 7 badge
finish the game then
What level do you get tornadus?
omfg lmao
lmao
is it worth a mandatory ghost type for rapid spin?

Considering their are two rapid spinners in natdex ou, probably not
ok
this mean u have qualified for worlds right?
Yeah it does
Congratulations! 

Nice
KAL0S IS HERE 
Just before I go to bed
Sleep well friend 
Thanks
how come in singles peole mostly use special attacking valiant
Intimidate is more prevalent
Also fighting and dark types are incredibly good in singles, so more Pokemon run physical bulk allowing for special attackers to get more value
hmm, singles has already been more toxic to me in 5 games of NatDex then doubles has in hundreds lmao
using switching moves is illegal or so they say, I guess there iron defense spam didn't work against pelipper
uhh why does this team's Archaludon have 16 spare EVs?
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They are the kid not you
I’m aware
Why choice scarf when u have tw
You don’t always want to bring Tornadus and tailwind
It doesnt get you banned 
If it did, my leech seed spam would've been banned LONG ago
I'll just put the unused EVs into SpD I guess
Oh I knew that, it was just funny to me. Like I have watched enough singles to know that switching with u-turn is an integral part of singles formats
Maybe, maybe not. What are you gonna do about it?
Ditto
Cope as hard as possible 
Im a mono-grass player, what do I really have going for me 
ferrothorn is good atleast
he's cooking trust
You make it?
Is a good team Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG?
what format
None
then why are you asking here …?
Any team works for a playthrough
This for a battle
Should i do any changes
its probably fine
i just think that the team dont go well together
wait lemme check
I forgot to put them into SpD
what changes should i do for the team i said?
can i see the paste
is a good team Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG?
if you're battling a friend, this isn't the right chat to ask for advice in
we do competitive battles vs each other im just a bad team builder
check #rental_teams or the pinned messages in here for team ideas
once you have a team, make a pokepaste and send that link in here for advice
I have sent the names in here Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG
that's great, no one can give good advice based off that
also the current VGC ruleset allows for one restricted legendary, you haven't said what ruleset you're battling with
i dont know yet
then come back once you know and have an idea of a team that you want to use for that format
What would be a good formet for this team and should i make any changes
when we say format, we mostly mean are you playing single or double battles
oh single
none of us here really play single battles, so it'll be tough to find someone who can give team advicer
can i do both
@next stump thoughts on koraidon goth train?
Hey Dillon
You make it back from LA safe?
& also caly s clef :v
I'm sorry
But all I can think about with that is a Koraidon going thru a goth phase
koraidon gothitelle crazy team
lol
Although, Monke is friendly
hello 🙂 yes i did
Lovely
Yay safety
I try to be lol
Like it sounds a bit corny to say out loud, but there's a lot of hate out there in the world
I will admit I've been one to hate myself as well
But I try to help people feel even a little better about their days
Same, sometimes I fail though 
But thats why I usually try to be friendly, even if I can be a dry know-it-all
Thats not corny though, you are telling the truth, its sad but its reality, i always try to make people's day atleast a little better, even if i am in a bad mood and this is coming from someone who has anger issues that lasted for years, i am trying to fix them but my life keeps finding ways to piss me off harder than the last
And someone who has to deal with the Sun at 30-40 degrees walking for 20 minutes without a lot of shade
But what i am trying to say is: Reality isn't kind at all
It never is 
Id just get tired and die of heat stroke 5 mins in
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2131539205 lets go we got a good game with the umbreon
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As you can imagine i get sweat all over my shirt after those walks
I cant even handle current Dutch summers, they go to 30ish, 37 max
The only reason i shower around 14:00/2:00 PM to 15:00/3:00 PM
And not in the night
You doing with single battles?
@molten oasis Would this work in it?
The Orthworm tried
for what singles? idk
Eeeh, subjective
Both
Those Snarls helped out a lot
Least obsessed VGC fan:
Oh thats nothing
As someone that spams Bolt Strike and Sleep Powder i can relate
One time, I missed 2 Chloroblasts in a row 
If this move is successful, the user loses 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded up, unless the user has the Magic Guard Ability.
Grass
Special
150
95
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
yk whats wrose
One time i missed 3 thunder waves in a showdown randbats room tour
the target i missed was iron hands, like how
And got crit once and flinched twice
I used to be known as 'Whitney' cuz my Miltank parahaxed everything 
Ehh not really
dont, just, no
Do it Lycopoky 
that wasn't the point
Here is something that should happen more: NPCs/Opponents missing Focus Blast more often
Imho nah
I swear they always land it
Good 
Imho, NPCs should be hardcoded to always land their attacks
4
They're already bad AI, give em smth
BOY I SAY BOY YOU COULDN'T HIT THE BROAD SIDE OF A BARN WITH THAT BOY
People with Focus Blast:
play rough hs 90 accuracy
Just meming
out of the 8 times ive clicked it it shouldnt hit 4 times

Bro has hard time seeing
Sword might be in the way
Its in the way of Clear Amulet anyway so remove it but keep the metal part of Zacian
Still 700 BST and Clear Amulet
Fairy
Intrepid Sword
92/120/115/80/115/138
660
Zacian-Crowned
Thats Hero form
Fairy/Steel
Intrepid Sword
92/150/115/80/115/148
700
Zacian
I don't want to imagine clear amulet + 150 attack + automatic +1 in the first switch in
UNLIKE SOMEONE
Calyrex rider forms?
Yep,Kyurem and Necrozma
https://pokepast.es/4e4d41bbb5cc2e12 How is this Kyurem-B team?
I want to try it out and i would like some advice
The advice is: y no Zekrom
Sir, thats in a different alt, i cracked the code for Zekrom, now i need to crack the code for Kyurem-Black
When i say crack the code i mean find out what is the best way to play it
Then sadly Im no use, Im bad vgc player 
Don't let yourself down Sylriam
I still wanna finish that team idea I started with Monke tho 
bad mindset
Be optimistic Syl
But also true
Pessimistic realism is in my blood
But lets be real, the last time i played VGC was... a year ago? So I technically can't be good as Im out of practice 
I can be good, I just currently am not is realistic, isn't it
haven't played a ton of games with it but i think im gonna stick with these 6 and just, learn with the team
its the same 6 as the 4th place at LA but i have different sets
im gonna train these in game and maybe take them to a tour
although i gotta get a torn now lol
Well Jangmo work in your settings of battle?
kommo-o is fine in vgc
How does it do in in it
right now its not great
zamazenta is better at its main job, being iron defense body press
clangorus soul/scales stuff isn't very good tho, although you can run about anything that works within reason
in this format
How about bax?
mm
idk, snow is a weak archetype rn
which is where you'd want to use a bax and at that point you'd run kyurem white
What all the main dragon type that are use in that?
In snow or the format?
format
koraidon miraidon raging bolt
Baxcalibur isn't that bad but when Kyurem-White exists then idk about it
I would only run Bax if its not in a snow team
Or if it helps with a specific MU
What coverage does Bax really offer than something like chien pao doesn’t
Dragon/Ice
Thermal Exchange, Ice Body (Hidden)
115/145/92/75/86/87
600
Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, False Swipe, Giga Impact, Glaive Rush, High Horsepower, Ice Fang, Ice Shard, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Outrage, Scale Shot, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Fang, Zen Headbutt
Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Freeze-Dry, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Tera Blast
Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Leer, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Swords Dance
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Baxcalibur.
Aqua Tail, Crunch, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Stomping tantrum
…
Most of the time you run Iron Head or HH
Thats true
Baxcalibur is just a slightly weaker Kyurem-B imo
With some things that it has over Kyurem-B
Yep,just ask Mamoswine
But obv i want to experiment Kyurem-B again, this time with a better team
Id argue bax is literally just better
Simply because of the okay coverage and terrible physical movepool
And I think thermal exchange is valuable rn with all the wisp incins roaming around
I cannot, play rough missed in swsh
I hate this move lol
Is caly ice good enough if its the only trick room mon on the team
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Although i think the opposite is true i can see the reasons why you believe yours
But barely
Barely worse at all
Well the good thing about Baxcalibur is that it doesn't use up a restricted slot

Which is why we use it instead of Kyurem-B most of the time
With how valuable the slot is rn bax is better
Zacian i have a question for you?
Would you make me a bax team
people in singles talk way more than in vgc wow
Not experienced with bax, sorry but no
Yep
Do you breed?
You are asking me too much
Also i only breed 0 speed iv pokemon for tr
And bax is not a tr pokemon
yea i got a bax was looking for a starter
Hey Tofu
What do you want.
To say hi to a person who may go by the name of WoodTofu online
Also to tell you that the Ting Lu child is testing da moose
Welp I’ve had my fun with singles (i hate it) might as well try and finish my kyogre team
Which mons would u normally see on one, rain dependant?
And would it be fine to have double water?
How come
How good is duraludon
Cause it's just not the build
With Rain mons majority of them you're taking advantage of their strengths in rain to commit to a high pressure team
CM Kyogre teams put their eggs into Kyogre
CM Kyogre also only runs Origin Pulse as its only STAB
2nd move Ice Beam
So ice beam and origin?
What this team you talking about?
And cm and prot
Hey Tofu what’s the jolly incin spread
The team build is Kyogre/Grimmsnarl/Incin, while the rest of the members can be Rillaboom with Double FO/Cresselia to provide Healing + TR
and you run Lefties on Ogre
Max Spe max HP so far
Okay sounds good, ty 
But can it be semi-tr

whos the 6?
Either you need glasses or you need to read more books
Yeah same
Like when you're reading something but your eyes move over and you're already reading the next bit and then 'wait I missed smth'
Exactly
I mostly have it with books n articles tho
I just have it in general, I remember this one time I thought water wasn’t wet, looked up an explanation and completely missed the part were it dissproved me
I still remember that conversation.
Can you send me the team?
I already gave you the main core.
What is the explanation? 
Like the stats and the moves?
Water is wet
England is full of rain and green
I like part of England tbh. Filled with pondweed. I'd love a pondweed pokemon
Not my proudest of conversations
It happens to all of us 
As a slightly smarter but more rude MonkeVGC i can confirm this
Except i don't like Monkeys
While scrolling through OTOT pings from Tofu i am laughing my ass off at this
Who bit their lip 
Tofu
I feel bad
But its nothing compared to bitting your tongue when chewing
Dont, they'd laugh right back
Want to know the stupidest thing i ever said?
Yes
Yeah thats pretty bad lol
I regret it a lot
Its true tho
Worse than Specs Landorus Therian right?
Do you really want to see me bring heccking LUVDISC
Mfs who have csr as their fave:
OH GOD NO
MFs who have Calyrex Flutter mane Urshifu Raging Bolt Miraidon Terapagos Incineroar rillaboom as their favourites:
My top 3 is Jumpluff, Roserade and Froslass. I can bring maybe 1 to actual comp.
MorrisPXGs fav:
I mean didn’t Wolfe take exeggutor to worlds and got second before?
MFs who loves Zamazenta CIR:
But it was in a less power crept format
Unlike now
And Exeggutor is very hard to kill without SE moves in sun and sitrus
Just U-Turn it and its gone
Well, lets be real. Froslass can at best be fast speed control with aveil I think, Jumpluff fcan offer support with rage powder and tailwind so that isnt half-bad, and Roserade is just a bit too slow and a bit too frail to really be of use. Can blow 1 up tho
Hoi
Froslass was used in Reg A with Anger Point tauros-Water/Fire to do insane amount of damage
Hallo~
hello
So it isn't terrible
Ello
Hello
also isn't my used Restricteds Are Terapagos,Dawn Wings and Calyrex Shadow
It has 1 niche


Are you daring me to use one of my faves 
Yes
Aight who has a Jumpluff set 
yea i need to get a Calyrex from someone-
In return I’ll for sure try swampert
can supply-
just-
wait like 4 hours 
Jumpluff isn't too bad, just use it with Groudon or Koraidon to get the full potential out
Ikr
i’m not at home atm and i’m late for class 
Uhm, Tailwind, Rage Powder, Strength Sap...?
i fought one before and they are in psychic Terrain
FREE TAUNT
Nova speed running swsh:
Somebody once told me that CSR is overhyped
Oh good one
It is
Shrek reference
no-
i don’t need to speed run it since im not gonna use calyrex anyways
Tailwind/Rage Powder/Strength Sap/Taunt
But why

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between MorrisPXG456 and pu-Tynamo-po! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: May 27, 2024
maybe use Energy ball/Solar Beam instead of Strength Sap
And Protect
i’m quite happy with my terapagos, lugia, zamazenta teams
i already ordered a Calyrex from Someone
So what happens when booster flutter taunt

Pu-Tynamo, too close to the spanish slur pu-
I cry
lmao

Mm yea spicy 55 base SpA tickles
Does it get Pollen Puff? 
Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bounce, Bullet Seed, Double-Edge, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Lunge, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Return, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, U-turn
Absorb, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Energy Ball, Fairy Wind, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Infestation, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Pollen Puff, Round, Silver Wind, Snore, Solar Beam, Tera Blast
Amnesia, Aromatherapy, Attract, Baton Pass, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Cotton Guard, Cotton Spore, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Flash, Grassy Terrain, Growl, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Light Screen, Memento, Mimic, Poison Powder, Protect, Psych Up, Rage Powder, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Powder, Sleep Talk, Splash, Strength Sap, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Switcheroo, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Tail Whip, Tailwind, Toxic, Worry Seed
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Jumpluff.
Best that you don't know
What is the word
I can't say it anyways since i don't want to break any rules
i know
So optimally probs like, Pollen Puff/Tailwind/Rage Powder/Protect/Sleep Powder/Taunt. 4 of these?
Tailwind Sleep Powder Pollen Puff Protect
It was a joke please don’t do that
They are my picks
Wynaut
Yeah
They seem like the most consistent combo
Much to fragile and slow
i saw someone run Encore
And lets be honest Jumpluff isn't that offensive
Grass/Flying
Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)
75/55/70/55/95/110
460
Since when is 110 SLOW
Too frail to tank a hit
Oh nvm it’s fast enough
Which disqualifies rage powder

OH
Hello Lacius
With Clorophyll? Super fast
I WAS THINKING OF JUGGILY PUFF THE ENTIRE TIME 
What EVs? 
LMAO

Who the hell would use that?

Reading comprehension strikes again
But uhm, what EVs would be used on my dearest Dandy?
Koraidon,Miraidon,Chien Pao,Flutter mane,Iron Bundle,Zacian and Calyrex Shadow Rider:Kek
Go get better English sir
Or read some books
Chlorophyll: kek
Early reg G I just did max speed and HP, then spam sleep power with wide lens lul
https://pokepast.es/ed725f10852a33b3 I cooked this up
Unburden:Kek
Wait Koraidon even speeds Jumpluff 
I finally figured out Zekrom
none of those get unburden
Who cares about unburden?
Results from said meal?
i still haven't figured Terapagos-
Better than expected
TorrentAegisVGC
Sceptile,Sneasler:
Might grind more with my Zekrom alt to really see how good it is
People run those in VGC?
Those aren't that good
U should do that
Almost never do
Anyway, max hp max spe?
Idk sneasler can be a threat if used properly
True but its super frail
i saw Some Sceptile Shed Tail Sets and i hate it cuz its not consistent
(Beat quite a few of them)
Fighting/Poison
Pressure, Unburden, Poison Touch (Hidden)
80/130/60/40/80/120
510
With seeds
Anyway when I make a non-tr vgc team, Jumpluff and Koraidon/Groudon will be in it 
Wait u only make tr teams?
Time to shunt myself a Groudon I GUESS
I haven’t ever made a successful tr team
I make no teams, I have a want to make them
Ah ok
Which method?
my first ever was in an earlier reg, wasn't very good.. It was... Hands, Bbonney, Scream Tail, Farigiraf, Hatterene and.. Torkoal
DAs
U have a path?
Not yet
https://pokepast.es/1a338299fde73e2f (Old)
https://pokepast.es/2c71dfd01f5f16c1 (New)
https://pokepast.es/a077859094d99db7 (Fused)
Which one is better
I'll worry about that later
I have like, 3 games to play so VGC is very low prio for me
Cause I kinda finished a Groudon team and need to find one first for a rental…

I have sword
Nope
Oh so I’m just unlucky
idk which one should i use- like i tested all 3

I am planning on restarting Sword at some point to shunt more legendaries (Iive 4 currently)
I’ve only got 1 from DAs and ever since I’ve lost faith lol
Might as well take the time to shunt another
moment
Truly a moment of all time
anyways i might just decide which Terapagos i gotta use
Oh lemme have a look
dis
Who are the best trick room setter
Where is specs 
Depends
Bc whenever I play against calyrex I just taunt it and stop trick room
Top 3 rn I think are farig, caly, indeedee
Is just using clayrex enough
this is still the CM sets
If ur hard tr I wouldn’t leave All to caly
I think specs is the way to go
Via battling against pagos teams in general
Lunala:Can Use CM and people Loved it
Terapagos:Use CM and everyone hate it
ah yes moment of funni
Calm mind lunala?
lunala is pretty though-
and graceful
Not hard trick room but when since most of my team is fast if things don't go as planned I will have to stall out my own trick room
True true
Andrew Zheng used it
terapagos is baby who should be cherished-
it shouldn’t be sent into battle
Seems like I missed that one e
But the power is a fucking nuke

Then stall it out, or have a slow mon that can take advantage of opposing tr
BUT ITS SO PRECIOUSSSSS
AGREE
I’m not a fan of its design tbh


