#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
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oh no...

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now it decide to hit-

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Its gonna TR right-

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WAIT

bold geode
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Aight I'm back from stuff, who's winning

solid frigate
bold geode
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Well who's in the lead

solid frigate
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Rillaboom have to carry this-

solid frigate
bold geode
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Ah no, now Incineroar

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Ope

solid frigate
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omg the miss-

bold geode
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MAN

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Tofu, get away from his Switch

foggy lodge
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God

bold geode
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Who cares about getting another SD up

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DAMN

mighty stump
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PR would have won the game

solid frigate
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This is so fucking close-

foggy lodge
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oh my god

bold geode
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Why are there two ballsy players in top 4

solid frigate
bold geode
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Tf

mighty stump
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Guess its Caly mirrors now

solid frigate
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omg....

bold geode
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Did he just realize it was Joever?

solid frigate
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i can't watch this stream anymore-

molten oasis
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Did Zac get out?

solid frigate
molten oasis
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Damn, good run

foggy lodge
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Still top 4

mighty stump
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RNG lost the game

foggy lodge
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And lost because of RNG

molten oasis
solid frigate
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basically what Drago be like

molten oasis
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RNGsus just screws us over all the time

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Was it a PR miss?

solid frigate
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Missing a Play Rough and High Horsepower

molten oasis
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figured

solid frigate
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2 HH btw

molten oasis
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Good run Zac good run

solid frigate
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yeah i can't watch this stream anymore-

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but lets see if Caly S can win it

molten oasis
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Caly mirror, interesting

solid frigate
bold geode
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Honse v Honse
Regional streams for NA started with Honse v Honse and will end with Honse v Honse (NAIC ain't a regional)

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Poetic

solid frigate
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Zacian was so close as well

molten oasis
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It’s ok, 3rd is enough for redemption imo

torn parrot
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How sad I just caught up

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It was close

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The play miss was rough

solid frigate
forest arrow
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I want Ice Honse to take it

torn parrot
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Gotta say I’m really loving the variety of regional top cuts

solid frigate
molten oasis
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But yea uh, Zac just has that, and intimidate, as it’s major weaknesses

solid frigate
molten oasis
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You can kinda build to handle steel/fire types

solid frigate
torn parrot
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Yeah

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The real game ender was the fucking high horsepower miss

bold geode
solid frigate
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this is just sad while the Caly Ice lands all the High Horsepower

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ya know what,lets make it have No Guard

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totally fair

torn parrot
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Even with Urshifu special defense I’m surprised all it took was a raw Draco meteor

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Oh nvm

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Booster energy

solid frigate
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yep-

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painful-

torn parrot
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Scary

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I still respect the zacian guy

solid frigate
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Honestly i am rooting for Caly S now

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Caly I does not need another event

torn parrot
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The draining kiss setup build seems annoying

solid frigate
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yeah this could work againt it

bold geode
solid frigate
torn parrot
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I’m guessing the covert cloak over clear amulet is for the additional bennifit of blocking fake out after Tera

solid frigate
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DAMN GOOD PLAY

torn parrot
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I think my Pokémon break is over soon

solid frigate
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THIS IS GONNA BE A SLAUGHTER

bold geode
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Who's winning
My dumbass ain't watching
I'm guessing Caly S

solid frigate
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Yep

bold geode
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Welp
Jugulis come back

solid frigate
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its a fucking +6

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i might bring back Incin-

bold geode
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ITS +6?!

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HOLY FUCK

solid frigate
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Yeah Nasty Plot, A kill on Bolt,A kill on Caly Ice and i think another plot?

bold geode
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THE CALYREX SHADOW RIDER CYCLE IS COMING BACK

solid frigate
dusty gate
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm +6 calyrex kinda does a bit of damage.

solid frigate
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honestly i would root for Caly Shadow rn

foggy lodge
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wrong orb my bad

bold geode
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We didn't prep enough for Calyrex Shadow and now it's back
Plus people finally figured out 2 STABS wasn't it

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Well I was gonna drop the Stellar Tera Blast Urshifu but like
Now it's looking like lmao

solid frigate
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hooo boi

foggy lodge
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AHHHH

solid frigate
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Ok Caly S is gonna be insane rn

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I will play All Hail Shadow when it won

fair wraith
solid frigate
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WHY THIS IS SO CLOSE

fair wraith
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huh

solid frigate
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its finals in LA region

fair wraith
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ohhhhhhh

solid frigate
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ALL HAIL SHADOW RIDER

mighty stump
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Lmao

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CSR wins

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I’d like an apology for all the fraud allegations

foggy lodge
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Another apology form?

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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I'm going to make it

forest arrow
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Ass

bold geode
solid frigate
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welp that give me more reason to make a Calyrex Shadow team

bold geode
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Time to slap Tera Dark and Dark/Normal types on the team again

solid frigate
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Wait

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Terapagos might get Profit from it

molten oasis
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who won

solid frigate
molten oasis
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ah

solid frigate
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Now i have a good reason to build a team around it

molten oasis
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the cycle restarts

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well ik what im taking off of this

solid frigate
molten oasis
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GIMME THAT UMBREON

solid frigate
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i might bring back Incineroar

mighty stump
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I can already see the complaining even after Zacian hit top 4

molten oasis
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my complaining? yes

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although i need to, not

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and just play better

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well, no i dont really have any excuse now

solid frigate
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its funny that Terapagos,Miraidon,Zamazenta and Caly S knocking Caly I down from all 3 Regionals Top Cut

molten oasis
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i shouldnt complain

solid frigate
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Zacian in Top cut is already a big improvement

molten oasis
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its like, im complaining and not actually fixing the issue

solid frigate
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huh

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the cycles begins a new

molten oasis
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i have to lock something by wednesday so i have smth to practice with

smoky hawk
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My boy Montana went all the way. Impressive. He goes to my locals

solid frigate
molten oasis
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jsut gotta, keep control, stay calm, and learn how to recover from matches

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and not stress

foggy lodge
solid frigate
bold geode
# foggy lodge

THERE WE GO
Alright check this off and check that off.....

solid frigate
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that +6 is hilarious yet Horrifying

smoky hawk
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Terapagos underperformed

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Draining kiss OHKOing ice rider was a highlight

solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
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rn i am jamming on All Hail Shadow cuz why the heck not

bold geode
molten oasis
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literally what happened

foggy lodge
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I already made mine

solid frigate
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POV:Calyrex Ice Rider vs Calyrex Shadow Rider be like

zealous badger
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Shadowrider won?

azure ether
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It was only a matter of time, right

zealous badger
solid frigate
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wait

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dawn wings Entei feels Lit

whole ibex
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Great

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Shadow Rider won a Regional

solid frigate
whole ibex
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Good on the player but I was in the middle of using Skeledirge

solid frigate
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huh

whole ibex
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Shadow rider stocks are gonna go up

solid frigate
whole ibex
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I mean Terapagos could be a nice restricted to pair Skele

forest arrow
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Chandelure tho

whole ibex
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It just gonna feel weird using it

solid frigate
whole ibex
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I was talking about Terapagos

solid frigate
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i rather using Chi Yu cuz it helps on boosting Terapagos's Damage Output

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Plus I just feel its more natural to run Scarf Chi Yu

whole ibex
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Yeah for sure

solid frigate
forest arrow
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New pfp

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Tough

solid frigate
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I might do the same but idk

foggy lodge
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I don't know if i already posted it but here's my tier list of restricteds

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imo Miraidon is A borderline S

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I just wanted to have 4 on each tier but yeah, Miraidon is almost S tier

solid frigate
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i just changed Caly S placement higher than Koraidon

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i might put Zacian Higher

foggy lodge
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i should make a tier list of the non restricted Pokémon

solid frigate
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Thats like

foggy lodge
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Zacian is the 9th restricted imo

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Maybe top 8

solid frigate
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higher than Lunala in my Opinion after this Regional

foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Zama and Zacian uncrowned aren't that bad

solid frigate
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also Andrew Zheng Got Karma'd by betraying the Turtle

foggy lodge
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If we ignore the fact that the crowned forms exist it's not so bad

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Zamazenta could run leftovers and Zacian Clear Amulet

solid frigate
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true

solid frigate
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Andrew Zheng:Did not make it to Day 2 with Lunala after Betraying Terapagos

Me:Happi noises

molten oasis
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they are not worth running as your restricted

solid frigate
molten oasis
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i saw

solid frigate
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why tf Groudon is still used even more than Lunala

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they aren't using Gravity-

molten oasis
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groudon copium

forest arrow
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Imma start playing Lunala

molten oasis
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you gonna stick with lunala?

forest arrow
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I’ve been honse train all reg

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Yeah I really liked Andrew’s team

molten oasis
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tbh

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i just think ice rider is really boring

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its good, just, not fun

forest arrow
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it got boring fast

molten oasis
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zacian doesnt get boring to me

solid frigate
molten oasis
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especailly when i go click the funny tera blast button

solid frigate
molten oasis
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i am mini terapagos, i punish your tera's

solid frigate
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Terapagos might gain profit if Shadow Rider won

molten oasis
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its still top 3

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and i still think ice rider is better

solid frigate
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only 9% is kinda small

molten oasis
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probably because of zama

torn parrot
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Yayy

solid frigate
torn parrot
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I did my monthly masterball run I feel good

Might climbs later on before season ends

solid frigate
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noice

solid frigate
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i am still coping on Andrew Zheng's Sweatshirt

molten oasis
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did it bully terapagos

solid frigate
molten oasis
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lmfao

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balls of steel

solid frigate
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when is his fault for not sending Amoonguss in G3

molten oasis
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he lost to a terapagos too?

solid frigate
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do not blame your Pokemon,blame your Plays

solid frigate
molten oasis
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oh, right

torn parrot
# molten oasis nice, with what

My zamazenta team
It was pretty smooth

I’ll probably climb the ladder and try to rank high with it before next month or I’ll chill and not do that and draw art

molten oasis
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nice

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Someone has a tier list of all fully evolved Pokémon post DLC?

molten oasis
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its not

foggy lodge
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You really think the 35 dollars restricted is bad?

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Lmao

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Cap

solid frigate
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i am still livid

molten oasis
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the restricteds you have to buy are just strong lol

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even the legendaries you can buy are strong

solid frigate
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like i am not joking

forest arrow
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I don’t think it’s mid

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But I still want the hoodie lol

solid frigate
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but what Terapagos Excels is Versatility

foggy lodge
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Andrew:

molten oasis
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ehhh

solid frigate
molten oasis
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we really calling terapagos versatile?

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just didn't think of it that way

foggy lodge
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uhhh

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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If i had to talk about it's set

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imo it's best set is just Choice specs

molten oasis
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it has specs sets and cm cloak sets

solid frigate
forest arrow
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Rock polish set too

solid frigate
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Power Herb is also Mentioned

molten oasis
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dont remind me of rock polish sets

foggy lodge
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CM is good but i see maybe it could be win something like a local, but more than day 2 in a regional i don't see it

solid frigate
forest arrow
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Lolll

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Just had to mention

foggy lodge
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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choice specs is it's best set and meteor herb is an option if you want more versatility, like protect

forest arrow
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Yeah I think it’s an unnecessary set

solid frigate
molten oasis
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Terapagos-Terastal Tera Starstorm vs. 244 HP / 148 SpD Umbreon: 103-123 (51.2 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO i was curious, thats funny

molten oasis
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 244 HP / 148 SpD Umbreon: 72-85 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO KEKW

foggy lodge
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Umbreon is so good man

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But people use it wrong

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I've faced a lot of Umbreon on ladder

solid frigate
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but able two shot an Umbreon is Impressive

foggy lodge
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why tf they run toxic

molten oasis
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im excited to give it a shot

solid frigate
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normally is hard to kill Umbreon

foggy lodge
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The Zacian guy's Umbreon was really good

solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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i was impressed it didn't do more than that

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 197: Umbreon
Type

Dark

Abilities

Synchronize, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/65/110/60/130/65

Total

525

foggy lodge
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Same HP as Inci right?

solid frigate
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i think yeah

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar
Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

solid frigate
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same HP but WAY Bulkier

foggy lodge
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i mean

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From the special side yeah

molten oasis
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its bulkier than incin

foggy lodge
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But Inci has intimidate so it normally feels bulkier than Umbreon on that side

molten oasis
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im throwing CA into the mix when talking about incin

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theres A LOT of that rn

solid frigate
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yeah

foggy lodge
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I feel like the Zacian guy maybe had some help of the regional being more HO because wtf is that Inci usage

solid frigate
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i might need to reuse my Old Team for Caly S or i can fuse both of them at the same time

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Terapagos Wo-Chien?

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Moxie did run Caly S Wo Chien Before

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or should i go back to Grimmsnarl

molten oasis
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oh did peli fall off the board? thats funny

solid frigate
molten oasis
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and he was SD Zacian

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you can still hit it

solid frigate
molten oasis
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high horse on rilla if youre going tera ground

solid frigate
molten oasis
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tera ghost chi yu

solid frigate
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got it

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would you want me to use Torn or Incin

molten oasis
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its more up to what you need

solid frigate
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both do different things...

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i guess another speed control would not hurt

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done

molten oasis
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sure

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id go parting shot grimm but that should be fine

solid frigate
molten oasis
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well, have fun with that team

solid frigate
mighty stump
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I tallied it

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Across all of my games I played

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I have a 40% Sleep Powder accuracy rate

solid frigate
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RNG moment

mighty stump
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You know whats even better

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60% of the hit Sleep Powders (rounded to whole number) were all 1 Turn Sleep

solid frigate
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Cuz that perfectly tell about how RNG can screw things up

strange fjord
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banner of the r/VGC subreddit

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sums up rng

solid frigate
gentle cragBOT
dull ibex
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I return

solid frigate
dull ibex
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suh

solid frigate
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i'm good

dull ibex
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its vgc hours

solid frigate
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Solgaleo??

dull ibex
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clean up time

solid frigate
solid frigate
dull ibex
solid frigate
dull ibex
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we are getting there I thnik

solid frigate
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mhm

dull ibex
solid frigate
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WAIT THIS TORTOL TEAM LOOKS INTERESTING

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also Covert and amulet>Leftovers

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yep that turtle team looks hot garbage

dull ibex
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lmao

solid frigate
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hybrid Tailroom is hard to play

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and did he just spam Starstorm-

dull ibex
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yes

solid frigate
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thats rookie mistake-

dull ibex
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you need alot of set up to do that

molten oasis
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"skill"

solid frigate
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yep i don't know wtf happen to that team

sharp cobalt
mighty stump
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@dusk mist First, #rental_teams isn't for messaging. Second, just rent it. The code is right there.

timber falcon
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in a 1v1 situation, what would toxapex hate?

willow vault
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Something it can’t toxic stall, with super effective moves. Maybe like a magnezone

charred saddle
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hmm

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i kinda like koraidon firepon now

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firepon helps dealing with fairy types, so i dont have to always tera fire koraidon

also helps against kyogre

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also thinking of funny run of trailblaze KEKWlaugh

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but also koraidon rilla firepon is nice for grassy spam

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going quite well with a weird set bruh

timber falcon
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making a singles team is stupidly hard

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unlike vgc, i dont even think there are certain MUs u can account for

willow vault
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Which singles format?

timber falcon
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nat dex..............

willow vault
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First step of action would be Landorus-T. It’s probably the best mon in Nat dex, it can hit a ton of meta threats for stab super effective like tapu koko, Heatran, Raging Bolt and iron crown. You will want a way to effectively hit a landorus-T since it is so good into most meta threats. Something like Urshifu-R can work great.

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I would also suggest having a tapu of your own, to be able to hit Urshifu that threaten your Landorus. Tapu koko makes a lot of sense for that. I don’t know much else of the format but that should help

timber falcon
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the problem is i dont think natdex has a meta

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every game i see smth comlpletely different

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and mons with insane bulk that i cant seem to down

willow vault
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The additional benefit of being able to hit Landorus-T also allows you to get rid of gliscor which is a key defensive piece

timber falcon
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i think i will go with shifu then

willow vault
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Whilst Heatran isn’t perfect it does help into the tapu’s and having a steel type is great with all their resistances

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Could also go for corviknight for the same reasoning

graceful flare
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Why isnt there an intimate for special attackers

timber falcon
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av?

willow vault
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Some ovbvious stuff aswell like having a Defog/ rapid spin user and a grounded poison if toxic spikes is common

timber falcon
willow vault
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I mean Landorus-T gets both rocks and defog

timber falcon
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thats the thing, wont defog remove mine too?

willow vault
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And u-turn to pivot

dapper crag
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Move: Defog

Lowers the target's evasiveness by 1 stage. If this move is successful and whether or not the target's evasiveness was affected, the effects of Reflect, Light Screen, Aurora Veil, Safeguard, Mist, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the target's side, and the effects of Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Sticky Web end for the user's side. Ignores a target's substitute, although a substitute will still block the lowering of evasiveness. If there is a terrain active and this move is successful, the terrain will be cleared.

Type

Flying

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

timber falcon
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does it not get rid of mine?

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oh this entire time ive been reluctant of defog cause of that lol

willow vault
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It does remove yours never mind

timber falcon
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oh

willow vault
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Treads seems to be one of the better rapid spinners

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 990: Iron Treads
Types

Ground/Steel

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/112/120/72/70/106

Total

570

Weight (Low Kick BP)

240kg (120 BP)

Height

0.9m

Introduced

Generation 9

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Gray

timber falcon
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im thinking fwg core?

willow vault
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I mean there are only two rapid spin users in natdex out there, in great risk and iron treads

willow vault
timber falcon
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so far

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swapped meowscarada for venasaur

willow vault
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3 Mons that can remove hazards, 2 rock setters. Ferrothorn which is a defensive menace with pelipper protecting it's fire weakness. Urshifu-R does alot of damage in rain. Landorus is Landorus, and tapu lele for great damage into threats. Iron Treads has ice spinner to remove gliscor who otherwise walls it and your landorus

timber falcon
willow vault
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This should give you a way to deal with, Landorus-T, Heatran, Gliscor, Urshifu (with Ferrothorn), Dragonite, Zamazenta. Your may find Tapu lele to be a tougher matchup but Tapu-Koko is exremely dangerous against this team if you lose your landorus and treads

willow vault
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Your team also uses Mega which mine doesn't so that helps you alot

timber falcon
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i also seem to have forgotten z moves

willow vault
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That's ok

timber falcon
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i gave lando rockium z just incase

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i just got swept by photon geyser necrozma

dapper crag
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Move: Photon Geyser

This move becomes a physical attack if the user's Attack is greater than its Special Attack, including stat stage changes. This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

willow vault
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Maybe having hisuian samurott could help, it still fills the water type role but can also set up spikes with ceaseless blade and hits necrozma

timber falcon
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prolly due to missing both maga storms on heatran

willow vault
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Unfortunate

willow vault
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Ok

timber falcon
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next revival blessing spam...........

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and a last turn miss with scales

willow vault
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Yep

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It’s natdex your gonna fight a lot of annoying stuff

timber falcon
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i feel like i should be focusing on one mon yk

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like a mon to build around, instead of just slapping some here and there

willow vault
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Ok

willow vault
modern cliff
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Would anyone help me make a team include Flutter main and out of Kommo-o or Koraidon?

sharp cobalt
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Id love to but I suck so I'll leave it to the decent players

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 888: Zacian
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

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Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned
Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

355kg (120 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zacian

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Sword

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

sharp cobalt
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Why does only one list the weight

willow vault
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Only zamazenta gets low kick

sharp cobalt
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Except they're both Zacian

willow vault
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Oh, idk then

modern cliff
willow vault
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Not really

sharp cobalt
modern cliff
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Who can?

willow vault
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And unfortunately I’m still essay writing

molten oasis
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...

sharp cobalt
molten oasis
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if you want help with teambuilding i need a paste

sharp cobalt
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They wanna use..

modern cliff
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Would anyone help me make a team include Flutter main and out of Kommo-o or Koraidon?

sharp cobalt
molten oasis
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there are no koraidon rentals, gimme 1 sec

modern cliff
#

Or the ice dragon

sharp cobalt
#

Baxcalibur? Kyurem?

modern cliff
#

Bax

mighty stump
molten oasis
molten oasis
#

its just slapped together, but thats what you could use

#

oh torn might have the wrong, if it has rain dance give it sunny day

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nvm it has sunny day

modern cliff
#

How do you get Tornadus Raging

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In the dlc?

molten oasis
#

raging bolt is in the s/v dlc

#

you can get torn in the swsh dlc or in legends arceus

modern cliff
#

wasnt the timer for raging is up

molten oasis
#

that was walking wake

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you can get raging bolt though Perrin in the dlc

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indigo disk specifically

modern cliff
#

im only in the main game right now

molten oasis
#

...that makes this significantly harder

modern cliff
#

i think the 7 badge

molten oasis
#

finish the game then

modern cliff
#

What level do you get tornadus?

graceful flare
#

Nahh my opponent had a shiny ursauluna💀

foggy lodge
#

omfg lmao

timber falcon
#

lmao

timber falcon
balmy glen
willow vault
timber falcon
#

ok

timber falcon
willow vault
#

Yeah it does

dusty gate
timber falcon
cyan smelt
#

Nice

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
#

Just before I go to bed

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
#

Thanks

timber falcon
#

how come in singles peole mostly use special attacking valiant

willow vault
#

Intimidate is more prevalent

#

Also fighting and dark types are incredibly good in singles, so more Pokemon run physical bulk allowing for special attackers to get more value

willow vault
#

hmm, singles has already been more toxic to me in 5 games of NatDex then doubles has in hundreds lmao

#

using switching moves is illegal or so they say, I guess there iron defense spam didn't work against pelipper

foggy lodge
azure ether
gentle cragBOT
#
morrispxg456 (ID 758873265053106217)

[Message](#rental_teams message) in #rental_teams
Second Rental From TorrentAegis and First Kyogre Rental here!
Name:Kyogre
Code:SWY0Q6
Format:VGC 2024 Regulation G
Paste:https://pokepast.es/9764a6a74b7e01d0
Noteshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fFYBKnaIttWYoJ28sQwLNjtcfzacaRUX3tGl2utgEv0/edit

willow vault
#

I’m aware

graceful flare
willow vault
#

You don’t always want to bring Tornadus and tailwind

sharp cobalt
#

If it did, my leech seed spam would've been banned LONG ago

azure ether
#

I'll just put the unused EVs into SpD I guess

willow vault
graceful flare
willow vault
willow vault
timber falcon
sharp cobalt
willow vault
#

ferrothorn is good atleast

molten oasis
bold geode
modern cliff
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Is a good team Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG?

chrome knot
#

what format

modern cliff
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None

chrome knot
#

then why are you asking here …?

molten oasis
#

Any team works for a playthrough

modern cliff
#

This for a battle

modern cliff
molten oasis
#

its probably fine

modern cliff
solid frigate
#

I forgot to put them into SpD

modern cliff
solid frigate
#

can i see the paste

modern cliff
#

is a good team Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG?

next stump
#

if you're battling a friend, this isn't the right chat to ask for advice in

modern cliff
#

we do competitive battles vs each other im just a bad team builder

next stump
#

once you have a team, make a pokepaste and send that link in here for advice

modern cliff
#

I have sent the names in here Flutter main bax Gilscor gallade inc wellspring OG

next stump
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that's great, no one can give good advice based off that

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also the current VGC ruleset allows for one restricted legendary, you haven't said what ruleset you're battling with

modern cliff
#

i dont know yet

next stump
#

then come back once you know and have an idea of a team that you want to use for that format

modern cliff
#

What would be a good formet for this team and should i make any changes

next stump
#

when we say format, we mostly mean are you playing single or double battles

modern cliff
#

oh single

next stump
#

none of us here really play single battles, so it'll be tough to find someone who can give team advicer

modern cliff
#

can i do both

chrome knot
#

@next stump thoughts on koraidon goth train?

bold geode
chrome knot
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& also caly s clef :v

bold geode
next stump
#

koraidon gothitelle crazy team

sharp cobalt
#

Friend Cheergi

#

Wait, wrong chat SCrunWTF

molten oasis
#

lol

sharp cobalt
#

Although, Monke is friendly

next stump
bold geode
#

Lovely

sharp cobalt
bold geode
#

I will admit I've been one to hate myself as well
But I try to help people feel even a little better about their days

autumn vault
#

(Joke)

sharp cobalt
#

But thats why I usually try to be friendly, even if I can be a dry know-it-all

autumn vault
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And someone who has to deal with the Sun at 30-40 degrees walking for 20 minutes without a lot of shade

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But what i am trying to say is: Reality isn't kind at all

sharp cobalt
#

It never is HuggingMew

sharp cobalt
molten oasis
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
autumn vault
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The only reason i shower around 14:00/2:00 PM to 15:00/3:00 PM

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And not in the night

modern cliff
molten oasis
#

doubles

#

the superior format

modern cliff
molten oasis
#

for what singles? idk

sharp cobalt
modern cliff
#

Both

autumn vault
autumn vault
molten oasis
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bruh i just missed 2 play roughs in a row

#

im crying

sharp cobalt
#

Oh thats nothing

autumn vault
sharp cobalt
#

One time, I missed 2 Chloroblasts in a row dratini_sip

dapper crag
#
Move: Chloroblast

If this move is successful, the user loses 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded up, unless the user has the Magic Guard Ability.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

150

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

molten oasis
#

yk whats wrose

autumn vault
#

One time i missed 3 thunder waves in a showdown randbats room tour

molten oasis
#

the target i missed was iron hands, like how

autumn vault
#

And got crit once and flinched twice

molten oasis
#

zacian, its a robot sumo wrestler

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how are you missing

sharp cobalt
#

I used to be known as 'Whitney' cuz my Miltank parahaxed everything PikaLmao

autumn vault
molten oasis
#

dont, just, no

sharp cobalt
#

Do it Lycopoky parasfire

molten oasis
#

that wasn't the point

autumn vault
#

Here is something that should happen more: NPCs/Opponents missing Focus Blast more often

sharp cobalt
#

Imho nah

autumn vault
#

I swear they always land it

sharp cobalt
#

Good parasfire

autumn vault
#

Especially NPCs

#

One reason why i hate Ghetsis' Hydreigon

sharp cobalt
#

Imho, NPCs should be hardcoded to always land their attacks

molten oasis
#

4

sharp cobalt
#

They're already bad AI, give em smth

molten oasis
#

ok finally hit a god damn play rough

#

i missed 4 in a row

bold geode
autumn vault
molten oasis
#

play rough hs 90 accuracy

autumn vault
#

Just meming

molten oasis
#

out of the 8 times ive clicked it it shouldnt hit 4 times

sharp cobalt
bold geode
#

Bro has hard time seeing
Sword might be in the way

autumn vault
#

Still 700 BST and Clear Amulet

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 888: Zacian
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

autumn vault
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned
Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

solid frigate
#

Well honestly idk

#

cuz ya know,its not a key item

autumn vault
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I don't want to imagine clear amulet + 150 attack + automatic +1 in the first switch in

solid frigate
#

UNLIKE SOMEONE

autumn vault
solid frigate
#

Yep,Kyurem and Necrozma

autumn vault
#

I want to try it out and i would like some advice

sharp cobalt
#

The advice is: y no Zekrom

autumn vault
#

When i say crack the code i mean find out what is the best way to play it

sharp cobalt
#

Then sadly Im no use, Im bad vgc player sadvaporeon

autumn vault
sharp cobalt
#

I still wanna finish that team idea I started with Monke tho KEKdog

autumn vault
#

Be optimistic Syl

sharp cobalt
sharp cobalt
#

But lets be real, the last time i played VGC was... a year ago? So I technically can't be good as Im out of practice milk_shrug

molten oasis
#

i really like yawn pressure

#

such a good way to shut down momentum

sharp cobalt
#

I can be good, I just currently am not is realistic, isn't it

molten oasis
#

haven't played a ton of games with it but i think im gonna stick with these 6 and just, learn with the team

#

its the same 6 as the 4th place at LA but i have different sets

#

im gonna train these in game and maybe take them to a tour

#

although i gotta get a torn now lol

modern cliff
molten oasis
#

kommo-o is fine in vgc

modern cliff
#

How does it do in in it

molten oasis
#

right now its not great

#

zamazenta is better at its main job, being iron defense body press

#

clangorus soul/scales stuff isn't very good tho, although you can run about anything that works within reason

#

in this format

modern cliff
#

How about bax?

molten oasis
#

mm

#

idk, snow is a weak archetype rn

#

which is where you'd want to use a bax and at that point you'd run kyurem white

modern cliff
#

What all the main dragon type that are use in that?

molten oasis
#

In snow or the format?

modern cliff
#

format

molten oasis
#

koraidon miraidon raging bolt

autumn vault
#

Baxcalibur isn't that bad but when Kyurem-White exists then idk about it

#

I would only run Bax if its not in a snow team

#

Or if it helps with a specific MU

molten oasis
#

What coverage does Bax really offer than something like chien pao doesn’t

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 998: Baxcalibur
Types

Dragon/Ice

Abilities

Thermal Exchange, Ice Body (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/145/92/75/86/87

Total

600

#
Baxcalibur's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, False Swipe, Giga Impact, Glaive Rush, High Horsepower, Ice Fang, Ice Shard, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Outrage, Scale Shot, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Fang, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Freeze-Dry, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Leer, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Swords Dance

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Baxcalibur.

autumn vault
#

Aqua Tail, Crunch, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Stomping tantrum

molten oasis
#

autumn vault
#

Most of the time you run Iron Head or HH

molten oasis
#

High horse, every time

#

Ice ground coverage is really good

autumn vault
#

Thats true

#

Baxcalibur is just a slightly weaker Kyurem-B imo

#

With some things that it has over Kyurem-B

solid frigate
autumn vault
#

But obv i want to experiment Kyurem-B again, this time with a better team

molten oasis
#

Simply because of the okay coverage and terrible physical movepool

#

And I think thermal exchange is valuable rn with all the wisp incins roaming around

#

I cannot, play rough missed in swsh

#

I hate this move lol

graceful flare
#

Is caly ice good enough if its the only trick room mon on the team

sharp cobalt
gentle cragBOT
autumn vault
#

But barely

#

Barely worse at all

mighty stump
#

Well the good thing about Baxcalibur is that it doesn't use up a restricted slot

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

With how valuable the slot is rn bax is better

modern cliff
modern cliff
timber falcon
#

people in singles talk way more than in vgc wow

autumn vault
modern cliff
mighty stump
autumn vault
#

Also i only breed 0 speed iv pokemon for tr

#

And bax is not a tr pokemon

modern cliff
#

yea i got a bax was looking for a starter

bold geode
mighty stump
bold geode
#

Also to tell you that the Ting Lu child is testing da moose

timber falcon
#

Welp I’ve had my fun with singles (i hate it) might as well try and finish my kyogre team

#

Which mons would u normally see on one, rain dependant?

#

And would it be fine to have double water?

forest arrow
#

Kyogre Ursh

#

Archaludon

#

Torn

timber falcon
#

I wanna run calm mind

#

Are I’m assuming those 4 are the main

mighty stump
#

If you're running Kyogre with CM

#

You run 0 Rain mons

#

Lol

#

Maybe Ursh

timber falcon
#

How come

modern cliff
#

How good is duraludon

mighty stump
#

Cause it's just not the build

#

With Rain mons majority of them you're taking advantage of their strengths in rain to commit to a high pressure team

#

CM Kyogre teams put their eggs into Kyogre

#

CM Kyogre also only runs Origin Pulse as its only STAB

#

2nd move Ice Beam

timber falcon
#

So ice beam and origin?

modern cliff
#

What this team you talking about?

timber falcon
#

And cm and prot

forest arrow
#

Hey Tofu what’s the jolly incin spread

mighty stump
#

The team build is Kyogre/Grimmsnarl/Incin, while the rest of the members can be Rillaboom with Double FO/Cresselia to provide Healing + TR

#

and you run Lefties on Ogre

mighty stump
forest arrow
#

Okay sounds good, ty GengHeart

mighty stump
#

Sorry let me zoom in for you

#

Cresselia to provide Healing + TR

sharp cobalt
modern cliff
#

whos the 6?

sharp cobalt
#

Oger

#

II think. They mentioned it last.

mighty stump
#

Either you need glasses or you need to read more books

timber falcon
#

Selective reading

#

Idk why but I tend to read it, yet not read it at the same time

sharp cobalt
#

Yeah same

#

Like when you're reading something but your eyes move over and you're already reading the next bit and then 'wait I missed smth'

timber falcon
#

Exactly

sharp cobalt
#

I mostly have it with books n articles tho

timber falcon
#

I just have it in general, I remember this one time I thought water wasn’t wet, looked up an explanation and completely missed the part were it dissproved me

mighty stump
#

I still remember that conversation.

modern cliff
mighty stump
#

I already gave you the main core.

modern cliff
#

Like the stats and the moves?

timber falcon
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
timber falcon
sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

Except i don't like Monkeys

#

While scrolling through OTOT pings from Tofu i am laughing my ass off at this

timber falcon
#

Tofu

autumn vault
#

But its nothing compared to bitting your tongue when chewing

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

Want to know the stupidest thing i ever said?

timber falcon
#

Yes

autumn vault
#

Its here btw

timber falcon
#

Yeah thats pretty bad lol

autumn vault
#

I regret it a lot

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
timber falcon
autumn vault
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
#

My top 3 is Jumpluff, Roserade and Froslass. I can bring maybe 1 to actual comp.

timber falcon
#

MorrisPXGs fav:

sharp cobalt
#

Very, very rarely 2.

#

Jumpluff has been blessed with tailwind this gen though

timber falcon
#

I mean didn’t Wolfe take exeggutor to worlds and got second before?

autumn vault
autumn vault
#

Unlike now

#

And Exeggutor is very hard to kill without SE moves in sun and sitrus

#

Just U-Turn it and its gone

sharp cobalt
# autumn vault MFs who loves Zamazenta CIR:

Well, lets be real. Froslass can at best be fast speed control with aveil I think, Jumpluff fcan offer support with rage powder and tailwind so that isnt half-bad, and Roserade is just a bit too slow and a bit too frail to really be of use. Can blow 1 up tho

solid frigate
#

Hoi

autumn vault
craggy dagger
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

So it isn't terrible

timber falcon
#

Ello

autumn vault
#

Hello

solid frigate
#

also isn't my used Restricteds Are Terapagos,Dawn Wings and Calyrex Shadow

sharp cobalt
solid frigate
craggy dagger
sharp cobalt
timber falcon
#

Yes

sharp cobalt
#

Aight who has a Jumpluff set PikaLmao

solid frigate
#

yea i need to get a Calyrex from someone-

timber falcon
#

In return I’ll for sure try swampert

craggy dagger
#

can supply-
just-
wait like 4 hours NilouDead

autumn vault
solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

i’m not at home atm and i’m late for class KEKWCRY

sharp cobalt
#

Uhm, Tailwind, Rage Powder, Strength Sap...?

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

Nova speed running swsh:

autumn vault
timber falcon
autumn vault
craggy dagger
sharp cobalt
#

Tailwind/Rage Powder/Strength Sap/Taunt

craggy dagger
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

And Protect

craggy dagger
#

i’m quite happy with my terapagos, lugia, zamazenta teams

solid frigate
timber falcon
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
solid frigate
sharp cobalt
#

Does it get Pollen Puff? growlithe_think

solid frigate
#

also yes the Nickname for my Calyrex is directly reference to

dapper crag
#
Jumpluff's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Bounce, Bullet Seed, Double-Edge, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Lunge, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Return, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Absorb, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Energy Ball, Fairy Wind, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Infestation, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Pollen Puff, Round, Silver Wind, Snore, Solar Beam, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Amnesia, Aromatherapy, Attract, Baton Pass, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Cotton Guard, Cotton Spore, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Flash, Grassy Terrain, Growl, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Light Screen, Memento, Mimic, Poison Powder, Protect, Psych Up, Rage Powder, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sleep Powder, Sleep Talk, Splash, Strength Sap, Stun Spore, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Switcheroo, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Tail Whip, Tailwind, Toxic, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Jumpluff.

autumn vault
#

What is the word

#

I can't say it anyways since i don't want to break any rules

solid frigate
sharp cobalt
#

So optimally probs like, Pollen Puff/Tailwind/Rage Powder/Protect/Sleep Powder/Taunt. 4 of these?

autumn vault
timber falcon
autumn vault
#

They are my picks

sharp cobalt
sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

They seem like the most consistent combo

timber falcon
autumn vault
#

And lets be honest Jumpluff isn't that offensive

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 189: Jumpluff
Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/55/70/55/95/110

Total

460

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
#

Too frail to tank a hit

timber falcon
#

Oh nvm it’s fast enough

autumn vault
#

Which disqualifies rage powder

dusty gate
timber falcon
#

OH

autumn vault
autumn vault
timber falcon
#

I WAS THINKING OF JUGGILY PUFF THE ENTIRE TIME mochige

sharp cobalt
#

What EVs? growlithe_think

autumn vault
dusty gate
timber falcon
#

Reading comprehension strikes again

sharp cobalt
#

But uhm, what EVs would be used on my dearest Dandy?

solid frigate
autumn vault
#

Or read some books

timber falcon
autumn vault
solid frigate
sharp cobalt
#

Wait Koraidon even speeds Jumpluff kek

autumn vault
#

I finally figured out Zekrom

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
timber falcon
solid frigate
autumn vault
sharp cobalt
solid frigate
autumn vault
#

Might grind more with my Zekrom alt to really see how good it is

sharp cobalt
autumn vault
timber falcon
#

U should do that

autumn vault
sharp cobalt
#

Anyway, max hp max spe?

timber falcon
autumn vault
solid frigate
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 903: Sneasler
Types

Fighting/Poison

Abilities

Pressure, Unburden, Poison Touch (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/130/60/40/80/120

Total

510

timber falcon
sharp cobalt
#

Anyway when I make a non-tr vgc team, Jumpluff and Koraidon/Groudon will be in it dratini_sip

sharp cobalt
#

Time to shunt myself a Groudon I GUESS

timber falcon
#

I haven’t ever made a successful tr team

sharp cobalt
timber falcon
#

Ah ok

timber falcon
sharp cobalt
sharp cobalt
timber falcon
sharp cobalt
#

Not yet

solid frigate
sharp cobalt
#

I'll worry about that later

#

I have like, 3 games to play so VGC is very low prio for me

timber falcon
sharp cobalt
timber falcon
#

In short I need to save Groudon for my DA list

#

But can’t find one for my life

sharp cobalt
#

I have sword

timber falcon
#

Same

#

Is it a shield exclusive?

sharp cobalt
#

Nope

timber falcon
#

Oh so I’m just unlucky

solid frigate
sharp cobalt
sharp cobalt
#

I am planning on restarting Sword at some point to shunt more legendaries (Iive 4 currently)

timber falcon
#

I’ve only got 1 from DAs and ever since I’ve lost faith lol

#

Might as well take the time to shunt another

solid frigate
#

moment

timber falcon
#

Truly a moment of all time

solid frigate
#

anyways i might just decide which Terapagos i gotta use

timber falcon
#

Oh lemme have a look

graceful flare
#

Who are the best trick room setter

timber falcon
#

Where is specs poliwhirlkek

timber falcon
graceful flare
#

Bc whenever I play against calyrex I just taunt it and stop trick room

timber falcon
#

Top 3 rn I think are farig, caly, indeedee

graceful flare
#

Is just using clayrex enough

solid frigate
timber falcon
timber falcon
#

Via battling against pagos teams in general

solid frigate
#

ah yes moment of funni

timber falcon
#

Calm mind lunala?

craggy dagger
#

lunala is pretty though-
and graceful

graceful flare
#

Not hard trick room but when since most of my team is fast if things don't go as planned I will have to stall out my own trick room

timber falcon
solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

terapagos is baby who should be cherished-
it shouldn’t be sent into battle

timber falcon
#

Seems like I missed that one e

solid frigate
timber falcon
craggy dagger
#

BUT ITS SO PRECIOUSSSSS

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

I’m not a fan of its design tbh

craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

AND PEOPLE HATE IT BECAUSE HOW GOOD IS IT

#

BRUH