competitive_discussion

[polar canyon]

You can't see schedules for events 2 months ahead right?

I can only find events for may

And june

[solid frigate]

yeah,both that i did not attend-

[next stump]

there won’t be any locals or regionals over the summer

so that’s probably why nothing comes up

[willow vault]

Weeklies are generally held same locations and none are where I am, in Bristol there are 2 weeklies I think

[solid frigate]

welp thats the only time i am free

[polar canyon]

Cool cool I wonder why

[willow vault]

I’m in a tcg surrounded area

[next stump]

for some weird reason they always put a stop on any CP events for a couple months before worlds

probably so that no one earns an invite last minute

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/Uzwnb2K3-9Q?si=E1tapE2Kh8PDncjL

Palkia mentioned

[willow vault]

I saw

[solid frigate]

also dawn Wings also Mentioned so noice

[willow vault]

It revealed the only strat meaning that more people will expect it making the surprise factor less strong

[polar canyon]

Last event in my country was in march

[willow vault]

Damn

[polar canyon]

I hope I can try something someday

[solid frigate]

i might need to build a different team if i do regionals

[polar canyon]

Use the good ones

[willow vault]

huh uk really is blessed with tournies, I probably shouldn’t be complaining

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah you like terapagos

That's a good one

[solid frigate]

i built like 15 teams with Alterations.

Terapagos and Dawn Wings might be my main ones

[next stump]

100% if you can ever attend a regional or international realistically, you should

[solid frigate]

Calm Mind Covert Cloak Balance and Power Herb Meteor Beam Trick Room

[next stump]

it makes playing the ladder seem like a completely different (and worse) game

[solid frigate]

yeah

[polar canyon]

Premier challenges after summer

[solid frigate]

i think Dawn Wings has Potential so i might use it

[next stump]

great idea

[polar canyon]

Lunala definitely has potential when it's double restricted

I wonder if it's already gonna be double restricted by the time summer ends

[solid frigate]

probably not but idk

but which Restricted do you think its high skill ceiling

[polar canyon]

I don't think skill ceilings are a thing as much as just some being harder to pilot

[willow vault]

As in played perfectly optimally the best?

[polar canyon]

Skill floors definitely exist

[willow vault]

I agree

[polar canyon]

Probably caly ice

Like the more op legends are definitely even more valuable and op when used by a low level player against another low level player

[willow vault]

Honestly I would be tempted to say terapagos, using Tera at the perfect timing has even more additional value for terapagos and it feels the most versatile of the restricted to me

[solid frigate]

the timing on tera and protecting it to attack

[polar canyon]

I haven't seen terapagos in ladder in a surprisingly long time

[solid frigate]

huh???

[polar canyon]

Maybe it's because I'm only playing bo1 ladder

[willow vault]

In all fairness I almost exclusively run into caly-I, Koraidon and Zamazenta

[solid frigate]

i did see some Terapagos

but yeah mostly Zama and Caly Ice

while some Miraidon

[willow vault]

The only times I see terapagos is when I use it

Oh yeah I see loads of miraidon I just wanted to forget those games

[polar canyon]

Who would've guessed that zamazenta would end up being one of the best legendaries this gen and surpassing zacian

Me

Because I saw that it got body press early

[willow vault]

Good for you

[solid frigate]

same as well

when i saw the moveset change i was like:Oh fu-

[polar canyon]

Honestly behemoth bash should have had the effect

And they just don't give it body press

[solid frigate]

true

also Terapagos with earth Power is better since zama and Miraidon

while also beating Tera Fire Koraidon

[quasi cove]

I don't see a casual battle discussion channel so ig I'll ask here.
The other night I tried using a legal volcanion in a casual double battle but it claimed that there was an issue with my volcanion. I removed it from my team and everything went fine. Is volcanion not allowed even in casual? I haven't been able to find a conclusive answer to this online.

And if volcanion Is restricted from online battles entirely, can it be used in link battles made through link codes?

[solid frigate]

its a Mythical

[molten oasis]

Why have I been notified about entei and dusk mane

[quasi cove]

Are mythicals restricted entirely?

[solid frigate]

exactly

[molten oasis]

For vgc yes

[solid frigate]

Link Battles might allowed depends on the Ruleset

[quasi cove]

If standard rules set is put in for no dupe pokemon/items/all pkmn lvl 50, will it he allowed?

Be*

[next stump]

In sword and shield there was an NPC you could talk to if your pokemon was from another game in order to get it cleared for battle. I’m not sure if that mechanic exists in SV but worth looking into

otherwise yeah maybe it’s just a mythical issue

[solid frigate]

Moxie Boosted:No one thinks Rayquaza is gonna be the most Busted Pokemon of all time.

Me:I mean i think Rayquaza Fans that does not know competitve would argue

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/605915cf6035293f made some progress with a team with this

[solid frigate]

looks great for now

[molten oasis]

Thoughts? Idk if I’m keeping torn it was just an add as I’m not 100% sure what the team needs rn

[solid frigate]

Pelipper can be good option for Countering Koraidon

[molten oasis]

I can’t bring pelipper into any matches with ogerpon

[solid frigate]

cuz it depends if Koraidon is gonna Tera Fire

[solid frigate]

i honestly don't know then

cuz Pelipper looks good aganist Koraidon Teams

and it can help Zacian to Survive Opposing Hearthflame

which Zacian Hates

[polar canyon]

I think it's pretty much automatic

I think it was that way mostly so you couldn't have transfer only moves

Now transfer moves are entirely gone

[molten oasis]

Yea, I mean the sun mu relies on me baiting out the Tera from koraidon to either Tera stellar it out of the game or surging strikes with torn+rain

Idk, I need to practice the mu with someone

[polar canyon]

I have a korai team

[solid frigate]

if its Koraidon i can't help it cuz i am bad using it

[polar canyon]

But it's not finished

[molten oasis]

Not right now I’m going to work lol

[polar canyon]

I need to finish some evs and final details

I think I'm ditching the scarf on koraidon and redoing the ev spread

I might do life orb

Not worried about incin since the team has kingambit

But I am worried about incin

Because it has wisp

I think I'll vive gambit a lum berry

Safety goggles never came into play anyways

[solid frigate]

i am fine against Kingambit cuz i have Chi Yu and Urshifu

[polar canyon]

Well what does chi yu have to say against koraidon

And what does urshifu have to say against rilla

That's why you play a balanced rounded team

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon in Sun: 170-201 (97.1 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

Idk did i done any calc wrong

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/7839aef0d018e29e

Does that feel not balanced Enough?

[polar canyon]

That looks cool but what's the point of cress

[solid frigate]

Thunder Wave And Amoonguss Denier with Lunar Blessing

also that Thunder Wave can disrupt Koraidon Hard

[polar canyon]

252 Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 180 Def Cresselia in Sun: 249-294 (109.6 - 129.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

If you're using specs for your calc I think it's fair to use band for this

[charred saddle]

no one will run band koraidon tho?

[solid frigate]

Yeah, CUZ MY CHI YU IS SPECS

so its not a fair deal on it

[polar canyon]

196+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chi-Yu in Sun: 133-157 (102.3 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO well then

This guy can also play that game

[solid frigate]

Dude do you hate my team or something-

[polar canyon]

Also this is a good calc to know

Now I know flare blitz can ohko chi yu

Noted

[solid frigate]

sigh

[charred saddle]

but yes koraidon doesnt really care about chiyu

[polar canyon]

Well at least now you know

[charred saddle]

chiyu is frail enough to die from flare blitz

[polar canyon]

The partner next to it might

[charred saddle]

especially since like chiyu goes to ghost when theres korai

and flare blitz neutral OHKOes

[solid frigate]

and also

I don't always go Chi Yu when against Koraidon

[polar canyon]

I just wanted to know too

Not trying to prove any point

[solid frigate]

sigh

now i have to back to being paranoid to Koraidon

[mighty stump]

Lol

Whats going on

[solid frigate]

great Minimize strat teams

give me actual teams

ok groudon team with Snorlax

@mighty stump saw a sleep talk Snorlax but gets shut down by Torn and Amooguss

[mighty stump]

Its shit

Idt youre allowed to run Sleep Talk

[solid frigate]

yep it gets neutrlised by Taunt+Spore

[solid frigate]

well its not me is the opposing Groudon team

[solid frigate]

ah yes Showdown BS

kinda funny someone still thinks Terapagos has to Tera to be good

[cyan smelt]

Funny that someone thinks base necrozma is good

[solid frigate]

idk man

Dawn Wings, Maybe

Dusk Mane? Ehhhh

Base Necrozma? NO

https://pokepast.es/b472863100f77d51

Wtf is that-
I saw someone build this team

[solid frigate]

i need to wash my eyes after seeing this

[chrome knot]

dawn wings is good

[solid frigate]

agree

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump tofuuuu whats the best way to like stay fresh during the off season

since obv i not goin to worlds this yr

[cyan smelt]

I'm not dismissing the fusions, I'm wondering why someone would think base necrozma could beat the turtle

[chrome knot]

putting restricteds in 1v1 is stupid anyways

its the glue that wins games

[timber falcon]

omg its actually going well

[solid frigate]

also i don't think 5 Shots of Espresso will make cleanse from this team

[solid frigate]

cool

[timber falcon]

hopefully i dont flop

[solid frigate]

true

[solid frigate]

Meanwhile me with Terapagos

[timber falcon]

with one singular team?

[solid frigate]

well the other teams make me fall back to 1000

So technically yes

[timber falcon]

why not just make new accounts for a fresh run on a singular team

[solid frigate]

i mean,i have my TorrentAegisVGC Account

[timber falcon]

i have like 20 atp lol

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[timber falcon]

the one im using rn is called "groudonotot"

[solid frigate]

also i might as well send someone's Terapagos Burnt team

https://pokepast.es/b472863100f77d51

wtf they done to Terapagos

[timber falcon]

bruh

only the dozo and flutter set it somewhat reasonable

[solid frigate]

Like what have they done

And Tatsu set is suppose to be with A Final Gambit Ape-

[timber falcon]

heck even an explosion mon wouldve worked

[solid frigate]

EXACTLY

also Terapagos looks like a Harmless Turtle with this set

[timber falcon]

fr no good damage boosters

and flash canon?

[solid frigate]

Not good

[timber falcon]

oh yeah btw, whats ur pagos cres team look like?

[solid frigate]

someone say Calm Mind Terapagos is not good

[solid frigate]

the New One or the Old one?

[timber falcon]

new

[timber falcon]

although i actually agree specs pagos is better

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/0e68ba75d14c3bb4 Old One
https://pokepast.es/7839aef0d018e29e New One

[solid frigate]

Ik but Calm Mind is still not bad

[dull ibex]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/game-bestof3-gen9vgc2024regg-2129252408

[timber falcon]

true

causei saw like 3 cres pagos teams today

[dull ibex]

sloppy playing on my end

but we win in the end

[solid frigate]

FINALLY I AM NOT ALONE

[solid frigate]

we win these

[dull ibex]

this was a friendly btw

[solid frigate]

noice

[solid frigate]

hows the team looking btw

[timber falcon]

wait lmao i didnt even notice the name

oh but i still think specs would be better for ur team it looks decent

[solid frigate]

This team is just I don't give a fuck to Calyrex moment

[timber falcon]

yeah and my groudon MU into pagos sucks

cant even tera heat crash

have to rely and precimiss blades

[solid frigate]

yeah and Chi Yu just almost one shots Groudon

[timber falcon]

good think i added wake and flutter

wake has been cooking

helps with mirror and 2 booster speed is fantastic

[solid frigate]

its a strong Mon against me

[timber falcon]

and quad resist kyogre

[solid frigate]

well if i did not bring Cress

[dapper crag]

Walking Wake [Water/Dragon]

Resists (0.25x)

Fire, Water

Resists (0.5x)

Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Electric, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dragon, Fairy

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

yeah its pain for Kyogre teams

[timber falcon]

and sash torn pairs well with literally every mon on my team

bleakwind that actually hits for more than opponent wants

[solid frigate]

Thunder Wave from Cresselia actually recommended by Tofu and That Tornadus is Drago's

so yeah kinda they are also in the team lol

[timber falcon]

twave is a pain lol

in fact i hated miraidon so much i made entei tera ground

[solid frigate]

so yeah Tofu and Drago kinda indirectly made this team real

[solid frigate]

true its hard to defend against it

[timber falcon]

i have never sat at a desk for so long thinking of wtf to add to make AV groudon work

what i need to work on most is rilla placement, taunt is needed for grimsnarl

[solid frigate]

fair enough

its hard to think about it

[molten oasis]

What did I do?

[timber falcon]

but luckily entei hit the criteria, funny thing is its the entei set i replaced for the lugia team

[solid frigate]

you trade me the torn

[solid frigate]

technically The Cresselia thought is kinda comes from a Character from Xenoblade when i looked at her art lol

[timber falcon]

lmao it wasnt the lunar blessing and insane bulk?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 488: Cresselia

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

120/70/110/75/120/85

Total

580

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

thats the second part

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[timber falcon]

if this groudon team takes me to 1500 with 65% GXE or more ill make a rental

[solid frigate]

I mean the ribbons does make me think of Cresselia a bit

[timber falcon]

cant wait for DA groudon

[timber falcon]

hm a bit

[solid frigate]

[solid frigate]

and she is a healer blade in Xenoblade 2 so yeah i named my Cresselia Haze

even tho Cresselia does not learn that move lmao

[dapper crag]

Cresselia's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Facade, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Natural Gift, Psycho Cut, Return, Secret Power, Slash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aurora Beam, Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Moonblast, Mud-Slap, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Ally Switch, Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Guard Swap, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Lunar Blessing, Lunar Dance, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Mist, Moonlight, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Psycho Shift, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Telekinesis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Cresselia.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

mist seems close enough

[solid frigate]

yeah Mist Means Kasumi in Japanese

And Haze's Name in Japanese is Kasumi

so yeah

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[solid frigate]

and Terapagos's Nickname is also Xenoblade reference lol

[mighty stump]

Off season? Do random events

Like team draft leagues and such

[timber falcon]

oh yeah how long do regulations usually last

[mighty stump]

Its nice to have something with enough pressure to keep you motivated to put in work while not having to actually do metagaming

[timber falcon]

do pastes not show nicknames?

[solid frigate]

3 months?

[solid frigate]

well it does,i am just lazy

[timber falcon]

thats too fast 😭

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/2278752390585380

Also here's the team with Nicknames

[timber falcon]

is that the person in ur pfp?

[solid frigate]

Yeah the Ultimate Aegis of Light

Basically Pneuma is just Human Version of Terapagos in Vibes

[timber falcon]

idk why but the word looks like a cold

the sickness

[solid frigate]

Pneuma Means Spirit in Greek

[solid frigate]

Thats Pneumonia

[timber falcon]

also unrelated but || gojo is in fact not back ||

[solid frigate]

F

[timber falcon]

yeah very similar words

[solid frigate]

I mean Pneuma in Xenoblade 2 can control all Elements and they are also found in some sort Of Dungeon

[timber falcon]

so some kind of elemental master of elements?

[solid frigate]

Well Yeah

She is the Fusion form of Pyra and Mythra (Basically the Base and Terastal Form of Terapagos be like)

[timber falcon]

so some sort of fusion dragon

[solid frigate]

they are human-

Well God's Children

[timber falcon]

im just tryna make it make sense from a certain show

[timber falcon]

like garmadon and wu?

[solid frigate]

fairr

[solid frigate]

you can say that

Pneuma is Pyra and Mythra's ascended form. She is the combined true form of Pyra and Mythra, merging both of their personalities into one.

As the embodiment of the true power of the Aegis, Pneuma is capable of rewriting the physical rules of her surroundings, resulting in all type of feats, from light-speed movement to slowing down time itself.

And what does Terapagos did in the Crystal Pool?

[timber falcon]

i forgot

[solid frigate]

Send The Real Professors to present day

so both can do time travel shit

yeah thats why i name it Pneuma,but it would be better if its Female

[timber falcon]

wait pagos is genderless right?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Weight (Low Kick BP)

16kg (40 BP)

Height

0.3m

Introduced

Generation 9

Base Species

Terapagos

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

wait what

[solid frigate]

its 50 50 gender ratio

thats why i want it to be female so it makes a little bit more sense why i name it Pneuma

[timber falcon]

huh they dont usually do that for legends

i think ill end my compet for the day here, on a good note

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon,Genies,The Doggos in Pokedex Entries

Loyal 3

[timber falcon]

ik but 50/50? the others have a set gender no?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1014: Okidogi

Types

Poison/Fighting

Abilities

Toxic Chain, Guard Dog (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/128/115/58/86/80

Total

555

Weight (Low Kick BP)

92kg (80 BP)

Height

1.8m

Introduced

Generation 9

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

M: 100%

Color

Black

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

yeah

[solid frigate]

oh nvm

i guess if i got a female Pagos it makes more sense

[timber falcon]

i now wonder what gender mine is

ima check rq

[solid frigate]

its 100% male always ni Indigo Disk

[timber falcon]

oh

[solid frigate]

yeah

[timber falcon]

how come though

[solid frigate]

idk story plot?

[foggy lodge]

Terapagos is a normal species that just like, extincted right?

[timber falcon]

I thought it’s the source of Tera energy in general

[solid frigate]

yeah the seisemic event make it extinct

except for one.

[timber falcon]

Oh that’s news to me

[foggy lodge]

Groudon's fault

[solid frigate]

Yep the name of my team is now even more make sense now lol

[twin cargo]

me after getting crit AND flinched two times in a row

[timber falcon]

It’s getting late now so ima head off, cya guys later

[solid frigate]

see ya

[foggy lodge]

Yeah shit happens

[twin cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-s2-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-geto-suguru-geto-gif-2035526178451499910

[solid frigate]

naming my team Fuck Calyrex and Groudon Team is more funnier now

[bold geode]

Hehehehe Calyrex Shadow

[mighty stump]

Btw

Speaking of CSR

https://www.smogon.com/stats/2024-04/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-1760.txt

CSR still reigning 21% usage in high elo bo3 ladder

[solid frigate]

kek

[mighty stump]

CIR and CSR usage is almost equivalent

Farigiraf on 17% of teams

[solid frigate]

huh

[mighty stump]

Miraidon actually on 4% of teams only

I think people cannot overcome the single formula which makes it easy to prep for

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2129276452-v23g6orot4qryjhs4m3raqhrk88yyhepw
weird ice shard tech

[solid frigate]

Poetic of the Fire Starter is No.1

And Another Fire Starter is Last in usage

[rustic mountain]

yea i think its gna have to adapt if it wants to remain relevant

its still really strong

nd will roll over teams/players that dont respect it

but i think its partial surprise factor of what it did well has now been adjusted too by a lot

[solid frigate]

i still respect Caly S,is just my team is built kinda for this occasion

[rustic mountain]

ive played plenty of turtle teams too haha

especially if ur cm id just dunk on u

[solid frigate]

i think thats the bad thing for me lol

[dull ibex]

I put my friend in two of three bo3s

beat*

[rustic mountain]

idt its bad per say, i think a lot of ppl just play cm too linear

which makes it predictable

[solid frigate]

I mean, true,i just wanna try a different approach on CM Terapagos

[rustic mountain]

nd my team is generally jus geared towards steamrolling so cm usually isnt the best way to counter that cuz imma jus out damage u

atleast from my experience. specs usually is more annoying cuz its immediate pressure

but thats just into my team specifically also

[solid frigate]

i just don't like how that makes Terapagos forfeit so many Bulk but i get you

[mighty stump]

CM CSR >>>>

[solid frigate]

welp

[rustic mountain]

prolly lol

i like lo for bo1 tho

nd for this comp cm doesnt make much sense

[solid frigate]

i kinda just try to do shit

[rustic mountain]

lol

[solid frigate]

CM turtle still fits my style more so yeah i kinda wanna stick it untill something different

[rustic mountain]

always good to try other styles out

might be hindering urself w/o even realizing

[solid frigate]

yeah i tried Specs before

[rustic mountain]

i gta try atleast 1 other team before this month ends lmao

[rustic mountain]

i meant like not turtle haha but yea thats something. i feel like u kinda bailed onnit fast tho

[solid frigate]

also with Specs being around i think People would kinda let off guard on CMs

but then again like you said

its linear to play

[rustic mountain]

idt it has to be, should be an option instead of the default or dont always lead it

i think if ppl subvert what the tendencies are it isnt bad

[solid frigate]

yeah true...

[rustic mountain]

but most ppl dont

[solid frigate]

i have too many Lead combinations lol

[rustic mountain]

5 team members + turtle

alternate which member u lead w/

[solid frigate]

Cresselia Tornadus,Terapagos Tornadus,Tornadus Urshifu,Chi Yu Amoonguss,Chi Yu Terapagos,Cresselia Amoonguss,Amoonguss Terapagos

Yeah thats a few i did

[rustic mountain]

atleast u a mix it up a bit

[solid frigate]

the funniest one is Terapagos Urshifu lol

i think i lead it once before

but yeah i usually train on Placements,strats and Adapting the situation

[stray badger]

I'm just realizing, are Dialga and Palkia's crystals just straight up always better than the orbs?

I didn't realize they were held items since in PLA there aren't held items

[solid frigate]

yeah After PLA and in SV

[stray badger]

I kinda hate it when there are just straight up upgrades of other items like that

[solid frigate]

well its a form Changing Item thaat basically does what it does,but i don't complain

[stray badger]

Like I get they'd probably be broken if they weren't held items, but still, they're basically just the orbs but better

Why even have the orbs at that point?

[solid frigate]

they are in Gens 4-8

and if you don't want to use the Crystals and Globe you can use it for Altered form stuff

[stray badger]

Yeah, I know it's because the orbs already existed, but functionally there isn't any point to them since you get the form crystals at the exact same time in SV

[solid frigate]

the Orb version can make you play Altered with the boost but not the form change

but eh i would not complain it honestly

[mighty stump]

1 CM = Specs

Id almost say, why not go Tera Starstorm + Hyper Beam

[solid frigate]

I just want that SpD against Miraidon-

but then again it 1 Hit KOs with EP anyway-

[mighty stump]

You know whats still a crazy concept to me

252 SpA Venusaur Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 78-92 (44.3 - 52.2%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO

[solid frigate]

and Venusaur resist Electro Drift with Good Bulk as well,so yeah it can land at least Earth Power without sun

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Venusaur in Electric Terrain: 114-135 (73.5 - 87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Damn

[mighty stump]

At least I live Modest once

Lol

[molten oasis]

[stray badger]

What's the point of playing Altered over Origin outside of some niche Smogon tier?

[bold geode]

Format?

I'm guessing singles cuz VGC don't go off Smogon tiers

Which if so, idk

[polar canyon]

If you're talking about singles I think it's probably because of the item

[solid frigate]

Wait LMAO

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

hoi nova

[craggy dagger]

haii
how’s the cresspagos team going?

[solid frigate]

pretty good now

[mighty stump]

If youre asking about why would you want the regular vs Origin forms, its about access to a held item

[south shuttle]

Terapagos is pretty good, I just think it kinda gets countered by any wide guard user

[stray badger]

To be more exact it's "why would you use the orb over the crystal"

[south shuttle]

Since it’s main damage is tera starstorm

[mighty stump]

Also wrong since you don’t need to Tera to pick up KOs

Tera Starstorm does more damage pre Tera

[south shuttle]

I know Bc of the 0.75 multiplier

[mighty stump]

You lose STAB

Stellar Tera Starstorm isn’t STAB

[south shuttle]

But most terapagos users I fight instantly Tera

[south shuttle]

What is even the moveset in it?

Terra starstorm, calm mind, rock polish, (any coverage move)

[mighty stump]

Tera Starstorm/EP/CM/Protect or Startstorm/Hyper Beam/Dark Pulse/Sleep Talk or EP for Specs

[mighty stump]

Poor piloting isn’t a testament to the mon’s performance

[wicked moon]

Some people aren’t very bright

[solid frigate]

ahem

those are dumber than i expected

[solid frigate]

normal Tera Starstorm is just better for focusing damage

[chrome knot]

need like friends for it

im scared of people

[solid frigate]

huh

[mighty stump]

Just gotta jump into it

[patent marsh]

So max speed

Welp ig I'm retiring Torn

Whimsicott it is

Ig we just run max spA max spid sashed Whimsicott with ghost tera?

God home won't load again

Nvm it did

[autumn ferry]

https://pokepast.es/dfa06649764f08e6
(double battle)
im not sure if i want ogerpon to be offensive or support .....

[timber falcon]

Why not both

[autumn ferry]

so i just go with
Ivy Cudgel
Horn Leech
Spiky Shield
Helping Hand

i was thinking about Follow me

and EVs .......... should i just Max speed and + a bit defense+sp defense?

[timber falcon]

U don’t need helping hand, follow me is better for redirection from miraidon

[timber falcon]

Speed should be 188 jolly to outspeed landorus incarnate, I don’t think it had to be higher unless for mirror MUs

[charred saddle]

idk how relevant the jolly 188 is now that lando I pick rates have dropped significantly

and also ur running koal id even just drop waterpon and go rockpon

rockpon is just more consistent in ur team

handles fire type still and can go max max and isnt tera hog

[molten oasis]

Imo. Ogerpon should honestly just be max max

[charred saddle]

sturdy follow me also ensures TR, but tbf idk how id feel with the TR solely being in sinistcha

[molten oasis]

Unless you REALLY need to live something

[autumn ferry]

i want a trick room sweeper here just in case

[autumn ferry]

attack n speed ?

[molten oasis]

Maybe not wellspring but with hearth and corner I think max max is just fine, yes attack and speed

[charred saddle]

i just dont like koal is specs --> means tthat u kinda want it in TR and play through it. but also u dont really have a way to set it up

[molten oasis]

Max att max speed jolly

[charred saddle]

and even like if u do set it like u need one of the mons to be dead to get koal in for eruption

by then they can stall 2 turns easily

[autumn ferry]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

[molten oasis]

I’m messing with Hearthflame with focus energy as a way to beat zamazenta

As zama is a menace

And hard to take out

[autumn ferry]

thats a really good point

[charred saddle]

id even be more inclined to be like eruption heatwave helping hand protect charcoal torkoal or like eruption heatwave EP protect

but like koal there is in weird spot tbf

and same as sinistcha

[autumn ferry]

how

[charred saddle]

if u really want to have TR set, you can run like fari also to have like some sort of prio stop

[molten oasis]

Ah, I don’t like ting Lu on that team ngl

[charred saddle]

sinistcha doesnt provide anything? idk thats how i feel

i kinda wanna mess around with CA ironhands haha

CA iron hands + CC

thats just beeg damage

[molten oasis]

Fr

[charred saddle]

with fari you can even do like fari IH to stop incin + something

and set TR where IH can still play in it

[molten oasis]

I think cc can just kill incin

[charred saddle]

then if its dead koal is in

yeah i mean like if theres fari, no FO to IH

forcing it to tera or do something else

which probably be WoW or parting

anyway thats what i feel anyway, take my word with a grain of salt

gl

[autumn ferry]

i will adjust it . thanks a lot
u provided some good points .

[charred saddle]

oh i think i dont really hate sinistcha IH?

but thats also when i met a set up IH

like swords dance or Belly drum then sinistcha in

like IH doesnt really like fairy and ground and i think sinistcha can handle it quite well

amoonguss provides a similar support tho, but it doesnt have TR and no heal on switchin

just better typing

[sharp cobalt]

I like Sinistcha

[solid frigate]

hoi

[south shuttle]

Gamefreak about to make the most op type have a trash Mon in plaza 🔥🔥🔥

[south shuttle]

Fairy ground 😭

[cyan smelt]

Hi torrent

[solid frigate]

hoi

[graceful flare]

Bug grass is a pretty good typing too

[karmic temple]

What are we cooking with today chat 🔥🔥🔥

[mighty stump]

How have you been?

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/toji-fushiguro-fushiguro-toji-toji-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-18230778313647436803

I have arisen

[bold geode]

Helloing Mr Kitty Husband

[karmic temple]

I’ve been good staying busy with work and doing some cybersecurity certifications bc I’m tired of dealing with the general public lmfao

[karmic temple]

Hello monke LMAO pls I love that meme

Truly a magnificent one

[bold geode]

Truly splendid

[bold geode]

Wait you are trying to do cyber security now?

[karmic temple]

Yes I want to make more money

I need a back yard for Entei and I need to vacation more !!

Just started a couple weeks ago haven’t kept up with vgc at all

[bold geode]

Bro same
Walmart hasn't been awful though
SURPRISINGLY

[bold geode]

Oh your cat's in trouble sir
Ghost tera is valuable
Doggy threatens it

[karmic temple]

NO that’s not what I want to hear

Bad dog go back to swsh

[bold geode]

I'm sorry to break the news
I love the dog, it so fat and tanky

[willow vault]

So adorable

[karmic temple]

😦

[mighty stump]

Dw

Its not in trouble since we have Zama players liek Monke

[karmic temple]

Only one dog I love

[karmic temple]

Loool

[bold geode]

Yeah honestly just throw a stack of Chuck E Cheese tokens at me and I'll be done for

FUCK GHOLDENGO

[chrome knot]

SPLENDID LMAO

[bold geode]

SPLENDID

EJC what you doing in here

[feral wraith]

Lurking

[bold geode]

Thought I wouldn't notice huh

[feral wraith]

Naw just decided to come in here and saw you complaining about the string cheese man

Figured you could use a pretzel

[bold geode]

Y'know what sure

[atomic mural]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-suprised-bruh-what-littlebigplanet-gif-18119100423231820417

[bold geode]

HEY NOW

You're an All Star

[solid frigate]

SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME THE WORLD

[solid frigate]

How do you consider one of the worst Types in the game GOod

[chrome knot]

wtaf is this

[bold geode]

Once again make the Shrekidi toilet
The toilet that don't do the skibidi thing, but instead it times your shit perfectly so you can recreate the Shrek scene

[solid frigate]

idfk

[bold geode]

At this point, it's not the worst thing I've seen

Wait

@mighty stump I heard they put the Red Orb in the game

[patent marsh]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1793899911852798319

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

The Doge Meme dog, Kabosu has died.

She was 18 years old.

Twitter · May 24, 2024, 7:00 AM

[bold geode]

WHAT

[patent marsh]

another one

[craggy dagger]

[south shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-gif-25530022

[south shuttle]

singles players 🔥 🔥

[zinc totem]

is there link for meta pokemons?

[autumn vault]

Rest in (eternal) peace Doge, you will never be forgotten

Also hello Comp Chat

[mighty stump]

What, like usage stats? Munchstats

[zinc totem]

more like tierlist or meta what is good and such

[timber falcon]

60 turns per game 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[mighty stump]

Usage stats are far more objective.

[timber falcon]

Munchstats is basically a tierlist of meta, (usage)

And potential sets they run

[zinc totem]

ooh i see

time to plan my lucario team then

cuz im gonna have intereersting team in mind

[mighty stump]

If you plan on getting into competitive i'd temper your expectations about using non-meta pokemon/favourites.

Realistically something like Lucario is gonna have a sheer uphill battle in usage.

[bold geode]

Hey I looked
For some reason, I just randomly have a new view on my Comfey Ape team report lmao

[mighty stump]

You'll find little to no success with it, unless you're a very good pilot.

[zinc totem]

thats why its only pokemon i probs gonna use while building around

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-reading-fly-flying-pilot-gif-8771762

[solid frigate]

Rest in Peace

[timber falcon]

I wonder who’s the best person at piloting teams is

If there’s even one

[solid frigate]

idek

[mighty stump]

I'm confident

Lol

[solid frigate]

pfft

[bold geode]

Hey so remember how we were talking about Tera Dragon Rillaboom winning Santiago?
The runner up had Tera Water Raging Bolt

[mighty stump]

I told you, I put in the work to get good enough to run whatever I want and play how I want

Most people don't do the former.

[mighty stump]

uhuh

[bold geode]

Also the Santiago finals mirror was both IDBP Zamazenta so pog

[balmy glen]

If I keep my new 6th mon on the indie team I’ll become a villain lmao

[mighty stump]

Why are you running Smeargle

[solid frigate]

hoi Keanu

[bold geode]

This is actually the counter Keanu was talking about right
He's running Ditto to get a 2nd Zamazenta

[balmy glen]

Hmm do I become reg gs villain or do I just run the team

I ended up getting sick so I couldn’t cook a new team tbh

[bold geode]

"What's worse than one Zamazenta. I KNOW, TWO ZAMAZENTA!"

[mighty stump]

Just run it

What's the worst that could happen

[bold geode]

drops at 0-3

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Players:

[balmy glen]

I wouldn’t drop at 0-3 I could still go 6-3 from there

I need the points lol

[mighty stump]

Yeah Monke we;re not talking about you

[bold geode]

WOW

[solid frigate]

pfft

[balmy glen]

gg

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/staph-it-staph-cat-cage-angry-kitten-gif-25610564

[south shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/zacian-gif-19228328

[south shuttle]

this is the best animation pokemon has made

[autumn vault]

You know what i am thinking rn? That Annihilape can ||OHKO|| Zamazenta with Final Gambit, might be a great counter and a great intimidate deterrent for Non-Amulet restricteds that are Physical

[mighty stump]

Why did you even spoiler that

[solid frigate]

eh idk Final Gambit is kinda risky to play

[autumn vault]

Forbidden words Zamazenta players hate seeing

OHKO Zamazenta

[bold geode]

cough cough Protect

[autumn vault]

Still does great work, if supports try to redirect it most of them explode when they get hit by Final Gambit

And Ape walls Body Press

With Bulk Up can tank Behemoth Bashes well

[south shuttle]

final gambit is so cheap

[autumn vault]

So even non-gambit apes can do great against Zama

[south shuttle]

might as well use a stall team

[autumn vault]

Assuming they are Bulk Up

[autumn vault]

For me to one shot a member with Ape

[solid frigate]

those are infinetly Worse

[south shuttle]

i just dont think its fun to run final gambit

[mighty stump]

I see we're still using pointless terms like cheap

[autumn vault]

You risk OHKO'ing one of your pokemon

[solid frigate]

i rather use Final Gambit than Stall teams

[autumn vault]

It isn't cheap, its very risky

[bold geode]

You're a pointless term ha got em

[autumn vault]

But rewards you for piloting it right (Example: OHKO'ing a restricted when you still have one to get a theoretical advantage)

[mighty stump]

Spoken like a true low elo player

[bold geode]

That's right
Gotta represent

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-discord-gif-24306382

[solid frigate]

at least you can recover on Being Final Gambited

[autumn vault]

Ape also has 115 HP

So it can OHKO many pokemon with max HP

[solid frigate]

But Stall is just I need to get my eyes washed

[south shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-shiver-me-timbers-dog-gif-26825804

[autumn vault]

And it has 1 more HP point than Amoonguss, the Shroom menace

[solid frigate]

is it Max HP?

[autumn vault]

Ape has 115 HP

[south shuttle]

we just gonna not talk about breloom 😔

[autumn vault]

Assuming max HP then always will OHKO

Amoonguss has 114 HP

[solid frigate]

fair

[autumn vault]

And it OHKO's a good chunk of restricteds too

Koraidon Miraidon Zama Zacian CSR CIR to name a few

[solid frigate]

Terapagos Terastal Form

not Stellar Form

[autumn vault]

I excluded it because you can save yourself with a tera

[south shuttle]

so basically, annihilape just uses gambit while scarfed?

[autumn vault]

And it also OHKO's Mewtwo Ho-Oh Lugia Kyogre Groudon Rayquaza Dialga Palkia Zekrom Reshiram

[autumn vault]

Yes

I run Jolly to outspeed CSR

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 890: Eternatus

Types

Poison/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

140/85/95/145/95/130

Total

690

Other Formes

Eternatus-Eternamax

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

Not etern

[solid frigate]

yeah the only ones can survive is Eternatus and Terapagos

[south shuttle]

eternatus is a great mon

i rarely see ppl use it

[autumn vault]

I don't think it can OHKO Lunala Solgaleo DW/DM Necrozma Giratina and Kyurems

[south shuttle]

its so nice

[solid frigate]

its only great when its Meteor Beam Power Herb

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 646: Kyurem-Black

Types

Dragon/Ice

Abilities

Teravolt

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/170/100/120/90/95

Total

700

Base Species

Kyurem

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[south shuttle]

yeah i run that set

[solid frigate]

DW DM are 97 HP

[autumn vault]

By 10 HP

[autumn vault]

Ah right

[solid frigate]

ok you aren't dead yet

[autumn vault]

Keep it that way

[south shuttle]

wdym im not dead yet

[autumn vault]

Run Stall Eternatus -> Everyone dislikes you -> You win a good chunk of battles -> Profit?

[solid frigate]

Because nobody likes Eternatus TOxic Stall

[south shuttle]

i didnt even know eternatus runs stall

[autumn vault]

cough cough Cosmic Power cough cough

[solid frigate]

Toxic Stall is basically playing Singles but even worse

but then again,Taunt is viable here

[autumn vault]

PP Stall + Toxic Stall

[solid frigate]

yep

[autumn vault]

And you can't OHKO it with Final Gambit Ape which is also bad

[solid frigate]

nothing that Palkia Crit team can't do

[south shuttle]

not crit

[solid frigate]

crit ignores stat changes

[south shuttle]

oh

[autumn vault]

Crephace and Leo realizing that their main is good against an infamous stall mon:

[south shuttle]

spacial rend scope lens focus energy?

[solid frigate]

exactly.

[solid frigate]

Dragon Cheer:HELLO???

[south shuttle]

i forgot that move exsisted

still

i like to run wp dusk mane tr set

[autumn vault]

I have a new idea that might be bad: Jugulis Zekrom, strictly worse than Miraidon Jugulis

[solid frigate]

i mean one of them needs to set up to be a nuke and one of them is just NUKE central

[south shuttle]

zekrom is just a downgrade from miraidon 😭

[autumn vault]

Won't stop me from using it

[solid frigate]

more like Miraidon is an Upgrade From Zekrom,but i mean its still a restricted that is underrated

same as Dawn Wings Necrozma which i see its Potential

[autumn vault]

Atleast it isn't terrain reliant and ddance helps the speed issue and outspeed CSR without the need of tailwind or speeed control outside of ddance

And then Miraidon is better in every other way

Except Design and Lore

[south shuttle]

but it's type sucks

[solid frigate]

ok design wise is kinda controversial

[autumn vault]

Dawn Wings 🤝 Zekrom
2 pokemon that have another pokemon who is an upgrade (lunala and Miraidon) with the same typing

[solid frigate]

Nothing that Prism Armor/Shadow Shield can't save the Lunala Forms, Plus both of the are respectiblely Tanky

[autumn vault]

So does Lunala and CSR but those have success

[solid frigate]

you can run a very tanky Lunala meteor Beam set and you still good

[south shuttle]

csr should be left out of this

[autumn vault]

Still better than NDW

[solid frigate]

ok now thats just selective ignoring

[south shuttle]

its literally ag

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/f72ace45543aac2b Also this team explains why i thought of Annihilape Final Gambit

[autumn vault]

True

[solid frigate]

Caly Shadow always Run Sash for fuck sake

[autumn vault]

But singles and Doubles have big differences

[solid frigate]

you still talking about In Smogon terms?

[autumn vault]

Incineroar is trash and Great Tusk is very good

[south shuttle]

both terms

[autumn vault]

And Landorus Therian is very good in both

[south shuttle]

and incarnate is pretty decent

[solid frigate]

only VGC terms are valid here and we can see Caly S although being great,its not in Big 4

[south shuttle]

there is no smogon channel tho

its just comp

[autumn vault]

Fair Point but i only play UU so i can't comment on OU or Uber atm

And most here don't even play singles

[solid frigate]

we mostly play doubles here

[autumn vault]

I also hate OU

[south shuttle]

i mean i play doubles too

[autumn vault]

And no its not because of Gholdengo

[solid frigate]

and yes Tofu and most of us also confirms that Miraidon,Caly Ice,Terapagos and Zamazenta are Big 4

[autumn vault]

Yup

But we can't let our guard down with CSR

[solid frigate]

Calyrex Shadow is at least top 10 in 6th-8th

[autumn vault]

CSR can kick our asses when we don't prepare as much as we do rn

[solid frigate]

usage is not but the quality

[autumn vault]

Usage barely matters

[solid frigate]

My team is technically built for Denying The Horses

[autumn vault]

As long as i have Incineroar, Amoonguss and a way to outspeed CSR then i am OK against both

[graceful flare]

I finished my last day of school and made ur out the hood

Anyways I need help on my team

[autumn vault]

Which one?

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/2278752390585380

I kinda changed a bit on mine

[autumn vault]

You sure hate Calyrex, i can't blame you i still have a huge amount of PTSD from CIR

Even when prepared CIR is just annoying to face

[solid frigate]

also Chi Yu can One shot Groudon so thats why i put it as well

[graceful flare]

I don't have all this fancy pokepaste stuff but there's no way u need evs to help me pick some team members

[autumn vault]

EV's can screw over several pokemon, we do most of the time

[graceful flare]

I'll put a pic of it up rn pet me take one now

Caly shadow is the classic caly shadow ev spread

Torn is max speed and hp

Indeedee is the max hp and def

And rilla is like 252 attack and then like 125 into def and speed

[solid frigate]

Max Speed and HP is kinda weird but i can let that slide

[solid frigate]

this is a no-

Rillaboom sure there are Max Attack Variants

But not like this

[autumn vault]

First question: Why?

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 188 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Grassy Glide
• Wood Hammer
• Fake Out
• U-turn
  This is a better spread

60+ to outspeed max incineroar

Max hp to be a good switch in

Rest dumped on attack to be as offensive at possible with the above

[solid frigate]

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 244 HP / 116 Atk / 20 Def / 76 SpD / 52 Spe
Tera Type: Fire
Adamant Nature

• Wood Hammer
• Grassy Glide
• U-turn
• Fake Out

Or this for alternative

if you want more Bulk

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/0ff2792cc0274b89 Did i serve, or did i burn the food?

[graceful flare]

What shoukd I add next or change

[autumn vault]

Afnan, feels familiar

[graceful flare]

What do I add

To my team

[autumn vault]

I don't remember it

Afnan Bezos

[solid frigate]

wait what

[autumn vault]

I saw an image, and the trainer was called Afnan

[solid frigate]

Tofu also susepcting that as well

[autumn vault]

Also look at this image, if you turn your head vertically then you can see afnan

Keep these for all to witness

[cyan smelt]

How many alts does afnan make, it's up to three now

[solid frigate]

idk man

[cyan smelt]

Seems like there's a new alt every week

[solid frigate]

its getting suspcious

[autumn vault]

And he did the Black Ops 3 confusion, just like Afnan Bezos

And called amoonguss annoying

Like, really annoying

[cyan smelt]

Definitely a troll no matter how much he denies he's a troll

[autumn vault]

And he trolls a lot

What unproductive thing people love doing with alts? Trolling

[graceful flare]

Amongst is a troll

[solid frigate]

and No About Me descriptions

[autumn vault]

And you are the troll

[graceful flare]

I'm not a troll but amlkngus is annoying

[solid frigate]

Thats all coming together

[solid frigate]

you even spell it wrong-

[cyan smelt]

No profile pictures ever either

[graceful flare]

Yeah I don't like profile pics

[autumn vault]

And Afnan Bezos and you never changed PFPs

[cyan smelt]

Because you're a troll

[graceful flare]

I'm not a troll

[solid frigate]

don't deny it

[autumn vault]

Sorry, thats what we believe

[cyan smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[graceful flare]

I make alts bc I get banned from servers

[cyan smelt]

Because you troll

[solid frigate]

maybe thats a skill issue of not behave well

[graceful flare]

I don't troll man

What trolling have i done here

[solid frigate]

lemme check the list

[autumn vault]

Because you get yourself in trouble

[solid frigate]

well i suppose its lots

[solid frigate]

and its a skill issue

[autumn vault]

Not so fun fact: I actually got banned in January, i returned because their is an appeal system and i took a break and came back in February

[cyan smelt]

You'd think after getting banned so much you'd get the hint and change your behaviour but no still annoying and trolly

[solid frigate]

exactly,why would theymake another alt for this then

[autumn vault]

I can send the link as proof, but in DMs

[solid frigate]

oh wait,they are the same troll

[autumn vault]

If you want me to

[solid frigate]

eh its ok

i trust you

[autumn vault]

Let see here: 1. Calling Rain Pain cringe
2. The Bo3 confusion
3. Not taking advice when its been given
4. Being a bit immature

[solid frigate]

unless the guy is a troll,normally people would just use Ban Appeals

[graceful flare]

Yeah the rain pain was just me being honset

[cyan smelt]

Afnan Bezos wasn't even banned from here

[solid frigate]

4th one is kinda meh but most of them are

[solid frigate]

so why they have new alts for it then

[autumn vault]

And he deleted the account

I want to send the link to Tofu when he gets online

[cyan smelt]

Creating new accounts just to troll here just like jaysp

[autumn vault]

To tell him the truth

[solid frigate]

agree

[autumn vault]

I will ignore everyone thay trolls, in case its Afnan

And he deleted the screenshot when i saw it

[solid frigate]

also add one more thing

[autumn vault]

So, sorry imimim but ik its you

[solid frigate]

Calling Showdown cringe

[graceful flare]

I just don't like it

[autumn vault]

And calling SV amazing and Showdown evil

[cyan smelt]

Spouting some conspiracy theory nonsense about showdown stealing teams

[mighty stump]

That is incredibly funny

[solid frigate]

EXACTLY

[autumn vault]

So, you saw it

[graceful flare]

Um it was abt showdown stealing the moon not teams

[mighty stump]

I had them blocked for a while but good to know

[autumn vault]

I was going to send a link to you telling you about this

But it seems that i dont have to

[solid frigate]

Competitive Discussion Channel Council be like rn:

[mighty stump]

See, no one makes the same mistake of Bo3 = Blops

[graceful flare]

I did the first time on tue other acc

[autumn vault]

Stealing the moon isn't worth it

[mighty stump]

But also

[autumn vault]

You cause more bad than good

[solid frigate]

Best of 3 = Bo3

Black Ops 3 = BO3

Its different

[mighty stump]

If they havent done anything banworthy, making an alt is no problem

However, if there is a history, then dodging punishments via alt

[autumn vault]

And how the fuck are you going to get the moon on the earth?

[mighty stump]

Is pretty banworthy

[graceful flare]

By the shrink gun

[autumn vault]

That doesnt exist

[solid frigate]

yep that a troll behaviour

[autumn vault]

Gru did use it but it was in a Movie

Movies arent real

[graceful flare]

Yeah it's a caled a joke

[solid frigate]

its not funny.

[autumn vault]

Oh so now you say its a joke?

Doesn't seem like one

[graceful flare]

Idk probably but u never know they might be trying to steal the moon u never know

[mighty stump]

Well, rather than getting in a further argument, I'd encourage not engaging and just blocking on both parties

[autumn vault]

Sure, why not

I have better stuff to do then argue with a brick wall

[graceful flare]

Buddy ur profile description is don't dm me

Like buddy no one will dm u anyways ur mot him

No body dms me either tho

[solid frigate]

Me and Lyco did Dms

[autumn vault]

I said dont DM me unless i know you or its important

[solid frigate]

oh yeah Lyco did you saw the adjustments i made

[autumn vault]

Yeah

I did

[solid frigate]

Chi yu Moment

[graceful flare]

Can anyone help with my tesm

[autumn vault]

Chi-Yu is a great Calyrex counter and it has decent synergy with Terapagos

But who did you replace for Chi Yu?

[solid frigate]

Incin

[autumn vault]

See, Afnan, no need to dispute it further

[graceful flare]

Yall want to help withmy team to

Yeah it is u know so it doesn't matter anymore

[autumn vault]

Logical

[graceful flare]

.

[solid frigate]

is just i want some more offense

[graceful flare]

Can someone help with mu team

[autumn vault]

For a Terapagos team it does seem very appreciated

[solid frigate]

yeah if Terapagos dies i can still fight back

[autumn vault]

I have 3 supports, 1 terapagos and 2 hyper offensive pokemon so that way i still have a chance to win when Pagos faints

[solid frigate]

same

Urshifu and Chi Yu for Offense,Tornadus,Cresselia and Amoonguss for Support and a turtle boi

[autumn vault]

And the 3 supports are Grimm Clef and Incin

2 of which can do some good damage (SE if its grimm)

[solid frigate]

Cresselia is so tanky and Tornadus can deal with nasty stuff

[foggy lodge]

I know this sounds crazy but i don't think protect on Inci is worth it

[bold geode]

Wait, we was talking about stealing the moon
Hold up

[solid frigate]

well not really

its more like only one talk smack about it

[bold geode]

Damn
Thought shit was getting interesting

[solid frigate]

honestly,i don't see Protect Incin lol

[bold geode]

turns on front camera to see Gru

[autumn vault]

And 10000 minions

[foggy lodge]

Fake out and protect are moves that kinda step on each other

[bold geode]

Yeah and a fuckton of minions

[solid frigate]

at least Gru Cares about his Minions

[bold geode]

Despicable Me
A fuckin classic

[solid frigate]

mhm

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/376e39e40c1afce3

I keep forgetting to send this

Got it from JPN

Woops Pagos is meant to be Modest

[solid frigate]

different Tatsu form i see

[mighty stump]

Terapagos team that just beats Zamazenta

[bold geode]

I tried to make the Portland Dozo team with Meteor Beam Terapagos Tofu

[mighty stump]

Chuppas team I assume

[solid frigate]

But then again only focus on Zama?

[bold geode]

Yeah
It didn't go so well

Cuz idk Dozo AT ALL

[mighty stump]

Core 4 has pretty strong MU into a lot of things, particularly since you can outpace with Fake Tears + Terapagos

[bold geode]

Do I still have the team

[mighty stump]

Flutter basically helps out Pagos if need be with Speed Control and Raging Bolt can just close

[solid frigate]

Fair point

[mighty stump]

Dondozo is for Zamazenta/Koraidon, the former being the numbre 1 worst MU for Pagos

[bold geode]

Lmao I deleted it, it was so bad

[solid frigate]

I did considered Bolt and Flutter Combo but decide to drop it cuz idfk

[mighty stump]

It's also still good into CIR as well

[solid frigate]

Yep

[bold geode]

I can't even show the team now

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta,Koraidon and Caly Ice are worst MU for tortol

i just go with Chi Yu cuz its a fucking nuke

but Dozo i might consider

[next stump]

caly-ice i feel like is at worst a 45/55 for terapagos if not 50/50 or higher

[solid frigate]

i would debate is kinda on caly's favour in 60/40 but maybe

[mighty stump]

It honestly feels 50/50

[solid frigate]

lower than i expected but eh

[polar canyon]

Now imagine if terapagos could be tera ghost

I think I wanna try using terapagos

I like the little guy

And the hyper beam stuff looks hella funny

Does tera shell work when at full health and behind a substitute?

[mighty stump]

Yes

[polar canyon]

Interesting

[solid frigate]

ok thats funni to do

[polar canyon]

Remember when orthworm shed tail to dragonite was a thing for a little bit?

[solid frigate]

yeah

[autumn vault]

You definetely gave somone an idea

[polar canyon]

Too bad orthworm and cyclizar are both also weak to fighting

[solid frigate]

Sceptile:

although i beat that as well

[polar canyon]

I need to see sceptile without a tail

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-26783531

that technically counts

[polar canyon]

https://pokepast.es/cd26ee25dca5cc6d
How about this

[solid frigate]

Interesting indeed

you can slap a Comfey/Amoonguss/Clefairy/Cresselia for Health

[polar canyon]

I thought leftovers + terrain should be just fine

With the protect that's 1/4 hp in 2 turns

[autumn vault]

Interesting, also Rillaboom is incomplete but i think you know that

[willow vault]

0 attack Iv’s on rilla?

[graceful flare]

Hi

[chrome knot]

NEVER have that incin set

EVER its so awful

its either knock only or both

[graceful flare]

Why no protect on incin I run protect

[solid frigate]

Cresselia for Status Cure and Comfey for Priority Healing,Amoonguss for Redirection and ya knowClefairy for minimize damage

i run Both Cresselia and Amoonguss

[graceful flare]

Are yall ignoring me

Is aroura veil same damage reduction as light screen and reflt

[timber falcon]

Yes

[timber falcon]

People prefer to use that moveslot somewhere else, especially cause Incin has the bulk ot not need it

[autumn vault]

OTOT, did you know he admitted to be Afnan Bezos?

You know, that guy who deleted his Discord account

[graceful flare]

Was he here back then

[autumn vault]

Yes

Didn't you admit that you are him?

[timber falcon]

Uh I probably forgot who that is

[graceful flare]

But why does everyone need to know abt this did everyone hate on this channel or sum

[mighty stump]

I thought I suggested blocking?

[graceful flare]

Ok tofu ik u don't like me

[mighty stump]

There's no reason to engage with people you don't like

[autumn vault]

Yes, you did

[timber falcon]

Some grey?

[autumn vault]

A screenshot

[timber falcon]

lol I can’t see it for some reason

[mighty stump]

Lol

[solid frigate]

lmao

moment

[timber falcon]

I don’t think it’s gonna work anytime soon

[gentle crag]

lycopoky (ID 1104069302946103348)

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[timber falcon]

Oh he’s made a rental

[mighty stump]

Just cause Lyco wanted to show you despite my best efforts

That it doesn't matter