competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

Sceptile and what other Starter?

[molten oasis]

Prima

[solid frigate]

ok so its swamp Pledge,Classic

[strange fjord]

ah, Anti-Tailwind

[solid frigate]

i used Greninja Venusaur for Swamp Pledge Before in SV but i don't like how its not consistent

[little plank]

Dozogiri is so good into Zama lol

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2128346794 1500+ showdown

[mighty stump]

I'm glad the suggestion clearly has worked out over this length of time for you

[solid frigate]

its Technically give opponents 2 Electrowebs

[willow vault]

With unaware?

[little plank]

Yup

[willow vault]

Nice

I’ve just realised Cosmoem is slower than Calyrex-Ice so that clearly means Cosmoem is a better trick room mon. Cosmoem team about to be built

[solid frigate]

if it has Body Press, i think Cosmoem would see some play cuz Cosmic Power

[willow vault]

Only has teleport, splash and cosmic power

[mighty stump]

I think Body Press isn't the problem at hand here

[strange fjord]

aw hell nah. dozo team

battles must last much longer when they also have a defensive core

[autumn vault]

True

[molten oasis]

I’m having fun

Coaching eviolite hisui sneasel

Into caly I, and then just hard losing to caly s

[bold geode]

Oh Hisui Sneasel is my favorite

[molten oasis]

yea, suuuuure is

[bold geode]

Imma make a role for it

[strange fjord]

as soon as i say something about dozo

[little plank]

Atleast it's not max hp max defense body press dozo though?

I guess it actually could be

[bold geode]

@mighty stump let's use Hisui Sneasel

[mighty stump]

Solo Dozo usually has to max max HP SpDef

[mighty stump]

I want to actually get to play the game, not waste 3 turns to click "Run"

[bold geode]

Yeah I'm fat I hate running

[molten oasis]

Wow, 0-4 today

[mighty stump]

0-4?

What happened to having fun

[molten oasis]

Nvm man in scraping this shit

[molten oasis]

Going 0-5 is not fun

[mighty stump]

Laddering?

[molten oasis]

Yes

Just calyrex after calyrex

And no the pelipper isn’t helping if you were wondering

It’s gets removed the turn I bring it in

[autumn vault]

Sad

Usually Pelipper doesn't die in one hit in my experience

And no i am not using sash on it

A losing streak is never fun

[mighty stump]

Its still sometimes wild to me it can tank Surging Strikes in Rain comfortably

[molten oasis]

Just like normal incineroar IS STILL AN ISSUE cuz THEY ALL HAVE WILLOWISP

I’m done this sucks

[dapper crag]

Should I replace something with Dracovish? If so, Flygon or Noivern?

[molten oasis]

Goggles incin is a literal nightmare to deal with and I’m over it

[dapper crag]

VGC 2022 format

[mighty stump]

Turbo Incin with Taunt would probably your way of dealing with that if not trying to KO it with Pelipper

[bold geode]

We play VGC 2024 format

[molten oasis]

What did I learn from this? Ghost typing is valuable

[mighty stump]

That too

Immunity to FO is always nice.

[molten oasis]

That’s about all I learned from this team

[mighty stump]

I take it you tested the Dragon Tera v Ghost Tera Pult

[molten oasis]

Only ghost, pult just feels bad man

Idk what happened

[mighty stump]

Either a bad day or you need to re-evaluate your lines

[molten oasis]

ig, caly s feels unbeatable next to clef

[molten oasis]

Generally hating I don’t have ways to take out fire and steel type/Tera’s quickly w/out a Tera

Well, steel

[bold geode]

Cool buddy
Use it on yourself cuz no one fuckin asked you either

[mighty stump]

If Clef has no like

Method of pressuring

[molten oasis]

And peli is just ridiculously frail

[mighty stump]

You can always just consistently target the Caly-S slot

[solid frigate]

hoi hoi

[molten oasis]

Even with the random bulk I got

[dapper crag]

I just asked wether I should swap Flygon or Noivern for Dracovish if either.

[molten oasis]

I might,

[mighty stump]

That or

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

Clear, yea clear amu pao

[mighty stump]

If CSR is also a problem

[solid frigate]

even its not a Reg G team i am interested

[mighty stump]

Chi-Yu

[bold geode]

Swap whatever, it's not like the format is up to date anyways

[molten oasis]

It’s next to redirection I can’t deal with

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-fishie-tiny-pokemon-gif-1712513170322551993

[dapper crag]

Sword and Shield, VGC 2022

[molten oasis]

I feel like it’s manageable if it doesn’t have redirection

[dapper crag]

The best year for competitive Pokémon imo

[solid frigate]

ik i have Zacian+Zygarde

[bold geode]

Like you're playing a format no one gives a fuck about
Dynamax was fuckin trash

[molten oasis]

It’s more specifically next to clef I’m having issues with

[mighty stump]

I have no idea who you're talking to but like, chill

[bold geode]

🤷‍♂️

[dapper crag]

Me, cuz I'm daring to ask about a SwSh format.

[mighty stump]

No, like genuinely

Chill

[dapper crag]

Arrest me officers.

[bold geode]

[mighty stump]

Yeah so, Chi-yu with spread forces out Teras and BBlade targetting means they have to lose either Clef/Caly-S. You always target the Caly-S slot

[molten oasis]

I want sash on the bird it just explodes too much and I hate it

[bold geode]

I'm just saying, a lot of people don't even focus SwSh here anymore, so advice ain't really gonna be grabbed as much here

[mighty stump]

This avoids free switch isn for Caly-S side of things

[bold geode]

Generation behind

[dapper crag]

Both of you need to realize this is

#competitive_discussion

Not

#vgc2024_discussion

[molten oasis]

Chi Yu over what?

[bold geode]

Huh

[mighty stump]

If you don't like Peli, over Peli

Lol

[dapper crag]

Non VGC formats exist
Earlier VGC formats exist.
VGC 2024 is not the only thing permitted to be discussed in this channel

[solid frigate]

pfft don't let Monke And Throwdat know lel

[molten oasis]

k, not sure how I feel about 2 fire dark types but ok

That and chi Yu just boosts itself

And it’s for 1 mu idk about that honestly

[solid frigate]

i just swap Incin for Chi Yu for my team but idk its kinda your choice

[south shuttle]

ogerpon cornerstone is surprisngly good against most trick room teams

[little plank]

You can discuss any format you want here. You just might not get an answer due to almost everyone in here playing the current VGC format.

[molten oasis]

Before I change members I’m just gonna try different items

Sash peli and clear amu pao

[south shuttle]

it hits both calyrex ice, and ursaluna for super effective damage

[dapper crag]

Isnt it only weak to fighting?

[solid frigate]

we talked about it yesterday and i like it

[autumn vault]

And also Groudon and Kyogre

But it doesn't do great against Koraidon and Zama

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon is just COnsistent to Groudon and Kyogre a lot

[south shuttle]

steel

[dapper crag]

Not a lot of decent fighting mons are trick room-viable

[south shuttle]

yeah its really good

[dapper crag]

Oh shit Steel

[solid frigate]

Iron Hands, I even saw TR Hitmontop before

[autumn vault]

And with Sturdy + Leech Seed you can use sturdy more than once, rare but it can happen

[bold geode]

Well what I'm saying bro is like
This one has more people who play in that format, so less people even know about the format you're asking for
It's not that you can't ask for advice about that, it's that we might not be able to give answer to said question

[polar canyon]

I saw the issue with not having steel stab on kingambit in this meta as soon as the calyrex ice went tera fairy

[north pagoda]

Bug and ice too

[dapper crag]

That's fine, but might I remind you

[solid frigate]

i use Kowtow,Sucker,Iron Head and Protect for my gambit

[molten oasis]

I mean I’ve never liked peliper so I might just throw it out at this point

[bold geode]

Don't need a reminder thx lol

[solid frigate]

Wait Ice?

[dapper crag]

Ogerpon-Cornerstone [Grass/Rock]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Normal

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Bug, Fighting, Ice, Steel

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.
Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[mighty stump]

I have seen 0 Tera Fairy CIRs

That doesn't even fix it's main MUs

[solid frigate]

huh i forgot rock sucks as Defensive Type

[mighty stump]

Whoa there

[south shuttle]

i didnt realize rock sucked that bad defensively

[mighty stump]

Rock is good defensive type for Whimsicott

lmao

[solid frigate]

thats Defensive Tera type lol

[mighty stump]

Or like, Amoonguss

YEAH BUT IT COUNTS

[dapper crag]

You got condescending with me first 💀

[autumn vault]

Ok, 2 useful pokemon that it resists, it does count

[solid frigate]

[mighty stump]

Nah Rock feels bad

[autumn vault]

But you can just use Tera Grass

[south shuttle]

imo tera water is best for amoongus. walls fires and urshifu rapid

[autumn vault]

Resists both Whim and Amoon and gives a spore immunity

[mighty stump]

More relevant MUs to deal with than plain resists

[bold geode]

Wasn't even of a condescending attitude? Idc I'm actually not gonna argue this

[autumn vault]

No wait

[bold geode]

Better uses of my time than to argue

[solid frigate]

Or Tera Dark for Prankster Taunt

[autumn vault]

Pollen Puff beats grass

[dapper crag]

Bye 👋

Anyway, anyone know about swsh competitive?

[autumn vault]

Bye, have a great day

[polar canyon]

I got low kick for incin

[south shuttle]

that works too

[mighty stump]

Tera Ghost for anti-FO/Tera Dark for Prankster Taunts + CSR.

Water/Fire works

Ive seen Fairy Amoonguss

[solid frigate]

i mean... i can talk about it,cuz i have tried it with Double Z teams

[polar canyon]

Dark also covers for psychic

[north pagoda]

No idea unfortunately. Skipped that gen

[solid frigate]

appearently i still have high respect on Caly S it seems lol

[dapper crag]

Do you know if scarf Dracovish works in doubles

[polar canyon]

It was easier to use silly goofy mons in swsh because of dynamax

[autumn vault]

With the amount of dark types a dark resist is always appreciated

[solid frigate]

ik,it can two hit Palkia

[molten oasis]

Aaaaand the game I did well I missed play rough and lost

[polar canyon]

I had a guzzlord paired with guard split shuckle

[molten oasis]

[polar canyon]

My guy was taking under 50 from stab moonblast

[autumn vault]

Me with Zekrom Bolt Strikes (2 matches out of 50):

[mighty stump]

I maen you should

Like I said

[dapper crag]

mæn

[mighty stump]

The moment players get complacent about CSR

[graceful flare]

Wha csr

[mighty stump]

It'll skyrocket in conversion rate

[bold geode]

Mfer come back lmao

[autumn vault]

CSR isn't overrated, its just that we overprepared for it

[solid frigate]

yeah My team is just hard Caly S checks lol

Chi Yu,Terapagos and Tera Dark Amoonguss and Tornadus

[bold geode]

It got that Dozo energy

[graceful flare]

Caly shadow rider?

[polar canyon]

Even if cir turned out a bit better doesn't mean you don't gotta prepare for csr

[mighty stump]

I can also imagine in Double Restricted it's gonna be stronger

[autumn vault]

True

[solid frigate]

lol

[graceful flare]

Why is zacian not good anymore

[autumn vault]

Nerfs were really bad for it

[polar canyon]

Nerfed ability nerfed stats

[solid frigate]

isn't like for most of them are stronger

[autumn vault]

And the fact that Dmax is gone so Behemoth Blade doesn't have a secondary effect and is just plain 100% acc 100 BP move

[graceful flare]

Ops on my team

[south shuttle]

because gamefreak hates sword pokemon

[mighty stump]

Intrepid Sword being able to trigger only once, and a cut to it's base offences made Incineroar a highly consistent check into it when it used to be less so

[solid frigate]

Zacian is still decent but not as great as before

[mighty stump]

Also no access to held items like CA make it difficult to get going, depending on the coverage of choice.

[solid frigate]

oh yeah Aegislash isn't in this game fu

[polar canyon]

I expected fairy tera blast caly shadow a lot more before the regulation started

[mighty stump]

It's still a solid choice imo, it just won't perform as strongly as those with immediate power and not-so-clear counterplay

like the Big 4

[graceful flare]

Opinions on my team

[mighty stump]

like the talk we had this morning, a version of self-sufficiency is key in your restricted's strength

[solid frigate]

tortol,ice horse,bike and shield doggo

[bold geode]

I love the pictures that don't give us info

[molten oasis]

Tera dragon is so much better lmao

[graceful flare]

Ev spreads aren't even that important

[polar canyon]

You wanna be able to cover for wide guard better I think

[mighty stump]

I take it you're testing that version of Pult now

[polar canyon]

Oh yes they are

[molten oasis]

Yea

[mighty stump]

Nice.

[autumn vault]

POKEPASTE

[bold geode]

And pigs fly now

[molten oasis]

I think going into the part of Pults kit THATS GOOD is better than going into the part that can’t do shit infront of a resist

[solid frigate]

do i give a damn about your Opinion?

[bold geode]

I think it's time I maybe do some blog shit or go back to watching shit instead of looking thru here lmao

[dapper crag]

Man if you guys can't judge the solidity of a team without seeing the exact EV spread ive got some bad news for you

[polar canyon]

You could be running jolly max atk max speed indeedee for all I know

[molten oasis]

Just gotta suffer with pforce

[mighty stump]

Ngl I haven't had this many blocked messages existing in this channel since like, 2 years ago. I do have to say to everyone else though, just be cordial or don't engage at all.

[bold geode]

And here it comes

Yeah where's my laptop

[mighty stump]

I notice a lot of you tend to get aggressive about your opinions to non-regulars

[solid frigate]

it is necessary cuz any Stat Matters

[graceful flare]

How do I make a team on sv without pokepast and put it on rental teams

[dapper crag]

Assume they're perfect spreads

Now, how's the team

[bold geode]

But what if they ain't

[polar canyon]

You at least did train evs right?

[mighty stump]

Even if they are outright wrong, no point in doing so in poor manner unless they have shown odd behaviour initially

[solid frigate]

its not always Max Max Min-

[mighty stump]

ANd even then

Just don't engage

[bold geode]

What if the EV spreads are not perfect
And technically no EV spread is perfect tbh

[charred saddle]

[dapper crag]

Okay? Assume they're perfect, exactly what is needed, what's your opinion on the team

[plain drum]

They can’t assume anything about the spreads because if they give advice and it ends up faulty, it creates unnecessary confusion

[mighty stump]

In general, you cannot convince someone who chooses to engage in bad faith

[graceful flare]

Are u talking abt me

[bold geode]

Oh my God
This ain't even faith, just
Smh

[autumn vault]

A good desicion that will benefit me:

[solid frigate]

i don't think everyone is being stupid besides you

[mighty stump]

You know what I mean

[plain drum]

Hey Leo

[solid frigate]

[mighty stump]

If people choose to engage with pre-concieved notions/opinions and approach the topic without an open mindset then it's already a lost cause

[autumn vault]

Like 1UK3, i will stop interacting with them

[dapper crag]

Alright one sec

[charred saddle]

i always put benefit of the doubt to most people i just only met. but yeah

[charred saddle]

wait eni in comp chat?

[solid frigate]

at least he kinda understand whats going on, but that other guy is just-

[plain drum]

Yeah, been a while

[charred saddle]

what the fuck are you doing here eni

[graceful flare]

Yall are glazing evs like if I show u them yall are gonna become millionaires

[charred saddle]

ur a regular here?

[mighty stump]

If only you came in earlier with popcorn

[charred saddle]

holy fock

[autumn vault]

An oblivious Dondozo? Yes ik

[graceful flare]

What did he do to u

[plain drum]

No, I visit when bored

[solid frigate]

[charred saddle]

u no play comp?

come play now

[solid frigate]

lemme Pull Eni over to here

[mighty stump]

I mean, ok, there's also no need to make a show of like

[bold geode]

Yeah trade out with Leo Eni

[mighty stump]

Outright ignoring someone

[autumn vault]

True

[mighty stump]

Or choosing not to engage

[bold geode]

Yeah actually no need to show "hey everyone I blocked this guy fuck him"

I blocked some people and never flaunted it

[autumn vault]

But i just blocked them so that way i can pretend that i dissapeared if i ever see their messages

[autumn vault]

True

[strange fjord]

I prefer not to engage bc I'd rather not be married rn 😉

[solid frigate]

@plain drum come back here for comp :>

[autumn vault]

Apologies, i think i made my point clear

[bold geode]

Like just don't announce it a bunch lol

[solid frigate]

anyways

now that whole fiasco is over

ok nvm it isn't

[autumn vault]

Do you think Tailroom Lunala can work? I have a team of it i can share

[graceful flare]

Is he ignoring me bc I'm stupid or why

[bold geode]

Why am I still here

[solid frigate]

i guess? usually i just go for Soft TR

[solid frigate]

to exist

[plain drum]

Don’t ask me the last time I’ve even played the game

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/c5918d4c60b10b5b I will read advice later, ping me with the advice on this team

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

I have to go for a bit

[solid frigate]

i'l just Put Lunala's EVs for it

[charred saddle]

is it mewtwo raid?

[plain drum]

Basically

[charred saddle]

the one we kinda fuck up

[plain drum]

Kinda

[solid frigate]

don't give me PTSD-

[charred saddle]

[plain drum]

Oh it was a blast

[solid frigate]

Lunala @ Power Herb
Ability: Shadow Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 68 Def / 172 SpA / 68 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moongeist Beam
• Meteor Beam
• Trick Room
• Wide Guard

I used this

[plain drum]

But to be honest Leo’s on the mark, I never did finish DLC Part 1 or start 2

[solid frigate]

i did beat it with my friends but its so damn hard

[solid frigate]

damn, the DLC is very good tho

[molten oasis]

ik just, ik done for the day

[autumn vault]

I think i wouldn't run Trick Room since it is a Tailroom team

[molten oasis]

I lost to every single zamazenta today

[autumn vault]

oof

[solid frigate]

i just run Soft TR thats why

[spiral ridge]

Real

[molten oasis]

Not close in the slightest I just get wiped by body press and can’t do anything back

[spiral ridge]

It’s fun seeing what’s going on here

[charred saddle]

come play VGC bro

[plain drum]

I’m hoping Part 2 with its new content and shenanigans is because Part 1 felt like a chore

[molten oasis]

I hate this

[spiral ridge]

Another day

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

Part 2 is just so damn good tho

[charred saddle]

when is the other day?

[craggy dagger]

NOW-

[charred saddle]

ill mark it on my calender and force u to try it

[plain drum]

Scotty dropped that soon™️

AFK for a sec

[spiral ridge]

WHEN THE WHEEL STRIKES ME WITH THIS FATE I SHALL ACCEPT IT

Until then I go beat the shit out of a family :)

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-clefairy-confused-lost-gif-5702557

[craggy dagger]

i said now

[charred saddle]

im hoping u get bonked by a flying wheel and u then realize that u need to play

[craggy dagger]

That’s me with team building

[spiral ridge]

You make me do many things in life honey, let’s not break the wheel more in your favor or others gonna be salty 😭

It’s already line 15% in your odds

[solid frigate]

semi true for me as well

[spiral ridge]

Force me to finish resident evil faster then ig

[craggy dagger]

vgc now
everything else after

[spiral ridge]

:<

Also lyorics pfp in here

[craggy dagger]

pleaseeeeeee?

[spiral ridge]

I’ll add 3 more of it on the wheel, that fair?

[craggy dagger]

10

[spiral ridge]

…

You’re lucky I like you

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

When I get home, for now flower time

[solid frigate]

oh boi

[craggy dagger]

love you too /p

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-basil-basil-omori-get-real-got-real-gif-26278566

[molten oasis]

how’s everyone doing

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-snorlax-funny-pokemon-game-gif-24684980

[river magnet]

Yes. I am here to do compete

[spiral ridge]

[mighty stump]

Guess

[molten oasis]

Guess?

[strange fjord]

I guess

[spiral ridge]

Alrighty bye bye I’ll send you photos later nova

[autumn vault]

Good, atleast, thanks for asking

[spiral ridge]

Take care lovelies

[mighty stump]

Yeah just have a guess

[molten oasis]

They seem good

[bold geode]

Imma guess.....
Taco Bell on a fine China plate
Way too classy for the shit that's on it

[solid frigate]

Monke why this again-

[river magnet]

No u

[strange fjord]

anxious bc regional is 3 days away

[bold geode]

Fine china as in the actual plates and shit

[craggy dagger]

what
the
fudge
is
Integrals
in
3D

[charred saddle]

shit

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

I have just learned that flowers got postponed, so am back

[molten oasis]

I
Dont
Know

[pallid hare]

Vector calculus

[spiral ridge]

[strange fjord]

literally integrals but do it 3 times

[craggy dagger]

yeah i’m doing well

[autumn vault]

Monke talking about something Chinese thats specifc, like normal

[charred saddle]

you know taik?

[molten oasis]

Good

[charred saddle]

TAIK LO

[solid frigate]

he means about the Plates

[mighty stump]

Well, no

[solid frigate]

but idk i'm not him so idk shit

[strange fjord]

inner integrals first tho

[charred saddle]

ah ok

[bold geode]

Ain't that what those very classy plates are? Fine china?

[autumn vault]

Ik it is the plates

[molten oasis]

I’m coming to genuinely hate zamazenta, just feels unbeatable at times

[charred saddle]

then i assume its good?

[bold geode]

Actually this is gonna be a very dumbass question
Are fine china from China?

[solid frigate]

i think these are the only few Stuff Chinese done good

[river magnet]

Why ignore

[pallid hare]

Better or worse than $200 Filet Mignon on a Dixie plate?

[bright spire]

What's a good counter to zacian ?

[mighty stump]

tapi org itu tdi bgst bgt anak botol

[craggy dagger]

sacred sword that thing-

[chrome knot]

@river magnet AMYYYYYYYYYYYYY WAAAAAAA

[molten oasis]

Incineroar Yk

[spiral ridge]

Sorry

[molten oasis]

That’s all you need, incineroar

[craggy dagger]

intimidate

[spiral ridge]

Hey Emma

[river magnet]

EEEEEMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/you-didnt-have-to-cut-me-off-meme-you-didnt-have-to-cut-me-off-big-brain-big-brain-meme-gif-26965490

[molten oasis]

Oh and zamazenta

[bright spire]

[gentle crag]

ham_0513 has given 1 Gen Rep to stella_novie

[chrome knot]

haaaaaaaaiiiiiiii

[solid frigate]

well the are made in China and used quite a lot in Dynasty Era

(I forgot most of chinese History

[craggy dagger]

wait amy are you gonna get into vgc

[molten oasis]

You wanna see how much damage sacred sword does to a zamazenta

[bright spire]

Em

[spiral ridge]

Amy goes where gossip goes

[autumn vault]

Like Half?

[bold geode]

Yeah I had to ask cuz like
For all I knew they could be like French fries

[mighty stump]

Fine China just refers to porcelain and yes it does come from China.

[solid frigate]

French Fries are from Belgium

[strange fjord]

0 if they tera ghost

[molten oasis]

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. +1 252 HP / 156+ Def Tera-Grass Zamazenta-Crowned: 40-48 (20.1 - 24.1%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

[autumn vault]

+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Sacred Sword vs. +1 252 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 104-124 (52.2 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[river magnet]

Probably not I too dumb for that

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Some of it do look pretty

[solid frigate]

i mean..... isn't Sacred Sword ignore stat boosts?

[autumn vault]

+1 252 Atk Sword of Ruin Zacian-Crowned Sacred Sword vs. +1 252 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 140-166 (70.3 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[chrome knot]

oaahhhh all the tera raid ppl 🥺

[molten oasis]

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. +1 252 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 80-96 (40.2 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[river magnet]

Sometimes I just follow Leo

[spiral ridge]

Real enough

[autumn vault]

Wow, you need a double up just to kill it

[bright spire]

[molten oasis]

Yea scared sword does a whole lot of damage

[spiral ridge]

Haven’t seen you in a while hope you’re okay

[craggy dagger]

you’ve got leo, aegis and i to help :)
and everyone else in this channel

[craggy dagger]

i’m trying to get-
scotty into vgc help me convince himmmmm

[chrome knot]

im vryvry goooddddd !!!

[charred saddle]

[molten oasis]

And my special attacker is a frail bird I can’t ever get into position so, idk what to do anymore

[mighty stump]

Not me, it's bedtime.

[spiral ridge]

Night tofu

[charred saddle]

gw bru bangun bro

[bold geode]

Wakey wakey mfer

[chrome knot]

howve you been scotty

[mighty stump]

Good night everyone.

[molten oasis]

Gn tofu

[solid frigate]

gn

[charred saddle]

cih

[bright spire]

Gn

[timber falcon]

Gn

[bold geode]

Tofu I'm feeding you coffee grounds to keep you awake

[craggy dagger]

tofu i mean in general but-
goodnight tofu~
hopefully the heat goes down a little so you can sleep in peace

[spiral ridge]

Finally started playing all these games I bought and never played, my bio can tell you how big it is

[craggy dagger]

vgc

[solid frigate]

wait do you feed him coffee beans-

[craggy dagger]

get into vgc-

[chrome knot]

holy fuck

das ALOT

[bold geode]

Yeah
Imma make Tofu shit coffee

[spiral ridge]

Some of those are multiple games

[bright spire]

Help make team

[plain drum]

[mighty stump]

Oh I always sleep in peace. Nothing that goes on here ever really bothers me

[spiral ridge]

One is the entire hitman series, other is the entire dmc series, another the entire bayonetta series

[solid frigate]

ok Shadow the Hedgehog-

We get you

[mighty stump]

But thank you

[craggy dagger]

on it

[bold geode]

Imma feed you caffeine to keep you awake

[craggy dagger]

what do you wanna make-

[spiral ridge]

You’re gonna have 20/80 submissions now, please mercy honey

[craggy dagger]

lmao previous tera raiders invade comp chat

[spiral ridge]

Even vik didn’t have this many

[bright spire]

Something with spectrier or kyo

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1716406573:R>.

[molten oasis]

Can’t beat the literal titanium wall for the life of me

[graceful flare]

I'm playing re7 too I'm on the part where u go to lucas party

[craggy dagger]

like-
just regular spec-
or shadow rider-

[bold geode]

Just use an Armored Titan dumbass

[spiral ridge]

Haven’t started yet but will today

[molten oasis]

You’re not helping

[bold geode]

Eren Yeager

[solid frigate]

[bright spire]

Shadow rider

[graceful flare]

Is flutter mane and caly shadow good on the same team

[river magnet]

But I'm too dumb for even help

[solid frigate]

I swear the entire time Zacian and Zamazenta vs Eternatus is just AOT

[bright spire]

https://tenor.com/view/reiner-steam-aot-attack-on-titan-reiner-braun-gif-24438981

[craggy dagger]

use randbats knowledge

[spiral ridge]

Finally home, I think it’s time to start RE once I add novas begging to the wheel

[charred saddle]

its fine i think u have at least better uhhhhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[spiral ridge]

She has nice banter

[charred saddle]

yeah

nice accent too yk

[graceful flare]

.

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-terminal-montage-battle-royale-entei-explosion-gif-14160215

[charred saddle]

bo'oh o' wp'ah

[spiral ridge]

Play magic the gathering Amy bantering against your opponent is a core thing

[solid frigate]

[spiral ridge]

I called my social studies teacher a bitch :) loved him

[graceful flare]

Are yall ignoring me

[dusty gate]

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

leo you just-
made 3 brits-
wait 4 if we include scotty-
mad

[spiral ridge]

Did they?

[charred saddle]

damn. who's the brits

[graceful flare]

Is flutter mane and caly shadow gokd one the same team

[craggy dagger]

respect the british-

[spiral ridge]

Oh I guess he tried to yeah

[solid frigate]

think about yourself,having the same Archetype

[dusty gate]

Am kidding.

[solid frigate]

did you add people from Comp Chat Regular?

[graceful flare]

What is archetype

[charred saddle]

are you brits by any chance?

[solid frigate]

yeah i am not helping you then

[craggy dagger]

uhhh

no

[solid frigate]

Crephace and OTOT are also British and i technically count cuz i live in UK now

[little plank]

Encore has to be the single most annoying ability in the game lol

[solid frigate]

Move*

[river magnet]

But not every opponent is Kris so who do I bonk??

[graceful flare]

I seedbed up it

[graceful flare]

Searched

[bold geode]

Not horrible, but not the best

[dusty gate]

[solid frigate]

its just not as good to have 2 pokemon done the exact same thing

[bold geode]

Yeah

[bright spire]

Lacius

[craggy dagger]

just imagine they’re kris-
also kris plays vgc so you can beat him in that too not just randbats

[charred saddle]

imagine them as kris then

[dusty gate]

Ham.

[river magnet]

I have a nice pet

[plain drum]

Omg I come back and all my friends are here

[spiral ridge]

im your friend? yayy

[craggy dagger]

Eni!!!

[solid frigate]

tera raiders raiding comp chat lol

[charred saddle]

"our" chat now

[bright spire]

[north pagoda]

It’s not difficult to beat me in VGC

[dusty gate]

Friend. 🫵

[charred saddle]

no more comp

[spiral ridge]

no good events lately, gotta do what we gotta do

[solid frigate]

fair point

[north pagoda]

Hi Eni

[bright spire]

Ambipom

[craggy dagger]

speak that to my 10-7 losing streak ass

[spiral ridge]

if i ever do a practise match vs you and i see a fucking no touchy im turning everything off

[charred saddle]

u + me = menace to society

[spiral ridge]

3 people were ready to comment on what kris said

[river magnet]

[charred saddle]

pikaclones still 100% wr btw kris

[solid frigate]

oh look,mini zacian

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/580854c1589d8d80 thoughts on a 6th?

[river magnet]

We moved on from tera raids

[plain drum]

To finally come back to this, I’ve been too busy alternating between replaying the same game and sleeping away the time

[north pagoda]

Pikaclones

[solid frigate]

ok i love this team

[molten oasis]

volc is primarily to deal with zama

[plain drum]

I hug Amy

[gentle crag]

[solid frigate]

fair point

[chrome knot]

did everyone finally get bored? cx

[craggy dagger]

hey add me on there-

[spiral ridge]

i hug all friends as i gotta go peer review something and will get sidetracked

[gentle crag]

[river magnet]

You + Kris = Me?

[dusty gate]

I don't really raid much anymore, just hang around lurking random channels, mainly hackcheck and trading rn.

[north pagoda]

[north pagoda]

[craggy dagger]

i lurk everywhere but here now

[spiral ridge]

cus you actually talk

[plain drum]

Go do your peer review

[chrome knot]

tera raid was the funniest place to lurk

[solid frigate]

i slowly become comp chat regular lol

[river magnet]

I hug Eni

[gentle crag]

[north pagoda]

Just fight me and your score will get a lot better

[plain drum]

Also hi hi

[molten oasis]

nvm guess I’ll just add incin

[charred saddle]

imagine. 2 of the people here cant lurk there now

[spiral ridge]

my starboards lmao

[plain drum]

Foul

[river magnet]

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAHAH IM SORRY

[spiral ridge]

leo going for blood

[charred saddle]

[plain drum]

[dusty gate]

[plain drum]

Hey I stole him first

I’ll share though dw

[charred saddle]

wdym share

[dusty gate]

Our Leo.

[spiral ridge]

leo getting lucky

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

son has so many options now :0

[solid frigate]

huh

[spiral ridge]

id say both

[craggy dagger]

that’s a score against you kris

10 wins for you-
7 wins for me

[graceful flare]

Is weakness policy good for bolt

[craggy dagger]

no wide guard like,mienshao?

i feel like mienshao could work…

[north pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-guilty-as-charged-lisa-rinna-gif-7281539

[molten oasis]

Every wide guard used has felt bad for me

[solid frigate]

no

[craggy dagger]

even mienshao-
hm

[charred saddle]

"now i can see why ur .........................."
fill in the blanks

[north pagoda]

We’ve played 17 VGC matches?

[craggy dagger]

we’ve played more

[solid frigate]

huh

the amount of endurance to play that amount with the same people is insane

[north pagoda]

Yeah but like 7 were just testing instruct on different charge moves

[molten oasis]

Oh yay covert cloak kyogre

[craggy dagger]

oh

[molten oasis]

My favorite

[craggy dagger]

right

[north pagoda]

It’s mainly been meme team best of ones

[solid frigate]

fair enough

however instruct Torkal moment

[north pagoda]

We were testing instruct because I encore’d a BM Ursaluna into Blood Moon thinking it would fail, only for me to get deleted

[solid frigate]

heh

[graceful flare]

Is archaludon good without rain

[solid frigate]

only with Power Herb

[craggy dagger]

lies

[charred saddle]

not really

it can be played as a support bulky AV one tbf

[craggy dagger]

The Goalpost (Archaludon) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 36 Def / 44 SpA / 116 SpD / 116 Spe
Modest Nature

• Body Press
• Flash Cannon
• Snarl
• Dragon Tail

[molten oasis]

bulky support Archa is nice

[charred saddle]

u dont run dragon tail tho

[craggy dagger]

dragon tail was for haha funnies

[charred saddle]

breaking swipe, snarl body press + cover

[molten oasis]

Anyway pult pao Zac is getting trashed I’m over losing to coaching shit

[craggy dagger]

it usually has swipe

[molten oasis]

And incin

It’s miserable

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2128418799-ghl1ehm4fpxdqsbw31i69g9uj7x15k8pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2128423749-yqhj4rnzbvhokc8hs4b0ekj8ldpt7ffpw

Lmao

[graceful flare]

Mt

How u use that bot

I need to know what aurora Vale does

[dapper crag]

Move: Aurora Veil

For 5 turns, the user and its party members take 0.5x damage from physical and special attacks, or 0.66x damage if in a Double Battle; does not reduce damage further with Reflect or Light Screen. Critical hits ignore this protection. It is removed from the user's side if the user or an ally is successfully hit by Brick Break, Psychic Fangs, or Defog. Brick Break and Psychic Fangs remove the effect before damage is calculated. Lasts for 8 turns if the user is holding Light Clay. Fails unless the weather is Hail.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

i did not even bring Amoonguss-

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 38: Ninetales-Alola

Types

Ice/Fairy

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/67/75/81/100/109

Total

505

Weight (Low Kick BP)

19.9kg (40 BP)

Height

1.1m

Introduced

Generation 7

Base Species

Ninetales

Pre-evolution

Vulpix-Alola

Egg groups

Field

Gender Ratio

M: 25%, F: 75%

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[tawdry urchin]

This is gonna sound like a dumb question but in showdown is there a way to see the win rate of a curtain team?

[solid frigate]

well you can see your Win Rate in Ladder User Lookup

but for teams idk

[tawdry urchin]

ok and whats the user lookup?

[solid frigate]

click user Lookup andtype the username to see your results

[willow vault]

Made a New Kyogre Team, explained each pick I think it makes good sense but any changes I am open to suggestions. https://pokebin.com/06221220582ead40

[tawdry urchin]

I don't see the user look up on my screen

[solid frigate]

kinda see where it going

[tawdry urchin]

nvm

[solid frigate]

lel

[tawdry urchin]

I don't see regulation G only c,d and e

[solid frigate]

did you scroll all the way down?

[tawdry urchin]

yeah

[solid frigate]

should be like this

[tawdry urchin]

oh wait I see it now

It's ALL the way at the bottom

Honsetly conpared to your I'm not that bad. Maily because you probally know more about vgc than me.

[solid frigate]

damn you have way more battles than me

[tawdry urchin]

Oh yeah

[solid frigate]

also its not like you know more stuff(Semi True) to know you are better player,its about Positioning and Strategy as a whole and how to adapt when it does not work

if you see my first replay,My Terapagos fainted early so i use Chi Yu,Torn and Cresselia to play around to fill the gap of my weakness

[tawdry urchin]

yeah, I think my main issue is teams that use 2 types of strats so trying to ghess what mons they are gonna start with is a gamble

[solid frigate]

wait is that the same Caly S team or is it a different one

[tawdry urchin]

same: https://pokepast.es/b62f7b3c6e5a2c43

[solid frigate]

you can try to predict their lead,sometimes their Lead is quite Obvious

i usually predict they want to whittle down my team or they going with their main strats first

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but sometimes it's not, I keep running into this guy using a miradon team but also an ursluna and Farigiraf team and sometimes he starts with miraidon or Farigraf to set up trick room

and no I don't use the same lead against him every time

[solid frigate]

oh yeah there are few exceptions,Some good teams can have more versatility on their Lead options

[solid frigate]

fair point

[tawdry urchin]

yeah

[tawdry urchin]

Honsetly I think I should just use landious and whimsacoot the next time I see him cus whimsacott can set up tail wind and landious can either protect for a tera the next turn or attack or it can taunt the Farigiraf from using trick room.

[solid frigate]

most of the time Whimsicott is gonna be speed tie,but Lando Taunt could work

[tawdry urchin]

( He dosnen't use miardon and Farigiraf as the leads )

[tawdry urchin]

yeah true

[solid frigate]

usually Lando I can play with Earth Power,Sludge Bomb,Sub and Protect but i don't see this Lando has Problems

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but I use taunt instead of sub because of Farigiraf's stupidly overpowed ability and psy terrain from indeede

[solid frigate]

you can play around it honestly

but yeah i get what you think

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but also why do you use sub instead of taunt? Just curious

[solid frigate]

It ignores Spore and lots of wacky status Moves

[tawdry urchin]

ah ok

[solid frigate]

and you can have a Guranteed Survival behind sub

well

[tawdry urchin]

true

[solid frigate]

unless Surging Strikes

that i think kills Lando

[tawdry urchin]

yeah it dose, It's weak to water

[solid frigate]

yea

its not guranteed survival against it but it gives you a protection technically

plus Terastalisation exists

[tawdry urchin]

yeah and steel resists everything 💀 ( I use terra steel on mine )

[solid frigate]

well not all but Ground is good against Fire

offensively

[timber falcon]

made a few tweaks, hows it looking?

[solid frigate]

hmmmm

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/1d96a783e9c7a0b7

[solid frigate]

looks good

and also Cresselia Tornadus is just-

My god.

[timber falcon]

by itself?

[molten oasis]

Id consider swords dance over stomping tantrum

[solid frigate]

you mean who

[molten oasis]

Boost damage

[tawdry urchin]

it has assult vest

[molten oasis]

I’m not talking about groudon

[tawdry urchin]

oh ok

[molten oasis]

The ogerpon

[tawdry urchin]

ah ok

[timber falcon]

wouldnt it be good to hit things like incin and chi-yu thought, and bolt#

[solid frigate]

you have groudon-

[timber falcon]

i dont want to rely on groudon for everything, cause that means if he dies.......

[solid frigate]

although Make Sense

Choice Specs BoR Chi Yu Can One shot Groudon

[timber falcon]

even with vest?

[molten oasis]

You wanna see how much damage Tera fire icy cudgel does

[timber falcon]

havent used it yet actually

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 164 HP / 52 SpD Assault Vest Groudon in Sun: 234-276 (119.3 - 140.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[timber falcon]

free elo

[molten oasis]

+3 252 Atk Tera-Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 171-202 (85.5 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO +2 is like 60-80%

That’s without sun

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 164 HP / 52 SpD Assault Vest Groudon: 156-184 (79.5 - 93.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Even without Sun It does so much-

[molten oasis]

+2 252 Atk Tera-Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar in Sun: 206-243 (103 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[solid frigate]

yeah its ded

[tawdry urchin]

How do you even do that calculation thing?

[solid frigate]

https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/index.html

[tawdry urchin]

What am I even looking at 💀

[solid frigate]

yep

[ebon flax]

Anyone know where I can find the item usage stats for all pokemon?
OU, UU, Ubers, VGC. all, etc. I just need something for gen 9, even if it isn't fully up to date.

[solid frigate]

https://munchstats.com

[strange fjord]

how's everyone doing?

[solid frigate]

good

[timber falcon]

gud

[strange fjord]

should i make a moon themed team or find a silly Pokemon and try and incorporate it into a team?

[molten oasis]

I’m starting at a blank drawing board but good

[strange fjord]

maybe i could do a not very used restricted

[solid frigate]

i'm kinda concerned about it

[solid frigate]

Dawn Wings : )

[molten oasis]

I’m considering what I want to use again, like it’s completely blank

Looked at hearth since it plays like zacian does when it Tera’s

[timber falcon]

silly pokemon

[solid frigate]

oh yeah its a nuke after Tera and swords Dance

[molten oasis]

But then I don’t like groudon and I can’t get my hands on a legitimate koraidon very easily

And I don’t like how zama plays so idk rn

[solid frigate]

kinda feel the same,THats why i don't want to use Koraidon

[molten oasis]

Genuinely I am just lost

Idk what to do rn

[solid frigate]

I mean you want to play Physical Attackers right

[timber falcon]

just find a mon u think is interesting, heck it dont 100% have to be a restricted or good

[molten oasis]

Dude

How much have you thought I’ve been doing that

The one I like isn’t working and the other one I’m semi interested in is really hard to obtain

[timber falcon]

hm

[solid frigate]

Koraidon is hard to obtain,Groudon is mid

[timber falcon]

i mean, if u wanna make a rental i can let u borrow my koraidon

[solid frigate]

yeah Physical Attackers(Excluding CIR and Zama ) are just

Idk how to explain it

[little plank]

Is there anything worse then having x4 defense knowing their entire team is physical then and getting critical and ko lmao

[solid frigate]

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/you-deserved-it-barney-ross-sylvester-stallone-the-expendables-you-got-what-you-deserve-gif-15964561629869638460

[molten oasis]

I am taking this to an international championship

And I’d like to keep one for myself as well

[solid frigate]

i think thats the reason why i don't use that much Physical Attackers

(Also like if Incineroar don't have Parting Shot my life is more easier)

[timber falcon]

oh i thought zac was the one going to naic

[polar canyon]

https://pokepast.es/765ee91ffb1254e7
The evs are obviously not finished but this one clicked with me

[molten oasis]

have you seen the struggles I’ve had with it

[polar canyon]

Once I fix up evs I think I'll build it on cart

[molten oasis]

Idk what to do with it anymore

I keep playing and losing matches

That genuinely feel unwinnable

[timber falcon]

i mean my av groudon team has just shown me it dont work

[molten oasis]

And I have to build my own shit so I need ti figure smth out soon

[timber falcon]

only way to go is up

[polar canyon]

I'm no expert but sometimes you get the the point where the most you can do to generally improve is keep playing

Even if it feels like it takes forever

[molten oasis]

No I can go much lower

I’m almost back in low elo hell after getting all the way up to 1600’s

[timber falcon]

then rebuild team, look for other ways

[molten oasis]

That’s not the problem the problem is the fact I can’t get a consistent 6

[polar canyon]

I'm definitely worse at the game than you are and if I have the will to keep trying then nothing should be stopping you

[molten oasis]

I can get 4 then I run into problems that genuinely feel unsolvable

And I’m by myself when testing so I’m constantly switching members in and out and it’s just extremely frustrating

[timber falcon]

u can always ask 4 help

[polar canyon]

I'm probably giving bad advice sorry

[next stump]

are you playing bo1 ladder? sometimes i feel like that ladder causes me to feel certain ways about my team that aren’t actually accurate in a tournament setting

[molten oasis]

You guys have your own things you want to do so I don’t really bother

[molten oasis]

mostly yea…

[solid frigate]

CTS kinda sucked

[polar canyon]

Bo1 ladder has things you don't even expect to see in the in game ladder

[little plank]

Lmao I could play zamazents all day if they don't get crits

[next stump]

like I’ll lose to a team and think “oh shit I have no matchup into that” when in reality the closed sheet aspect didn’t allow me to gameplan

[solid frigate]

anyways just wanna ask if this is good enough

[little plank]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2128459704

[foggy lodge]

Idk how accurate it is but 1600 in BO1 would be like 1400 in BO3

[molten oasis]

I think the fact I’ve just gotten rolled by 10 zama’s today says otherwise but yea I get your point

My zama mu is awful rn

It’s 3 physical attackers and amoonguss on the core

[polar canyon]

What counts as good enough is subjective

[timber falcon]

then find a mon that makes it better, or is it not that

[molten oasis]

Then I can’t get a 6th that works well

[polar canyon]

Like in a way anything is good enough if you're enjoying it

[solid frigate]

like is this enough for this team to work

https://pokepast.es/7839aef0d018e29e

[molten oasis]

The absolute worst part of it all is the fact that when I choose something to try the mu I want to play into doesn’t exist

[polar canyon]

What if you tried wisp support Volc

[molten oasis]

I tried volc for zama and it literally didn’t exist

[timber falcon]

i think ima restart groudon from scarth, howl aint working for me

[polar canyon]

It resists the double stab and can burn

[timber falcon]

wym

[molten oasis]

Just kyogre and lots of coaching shit

[polar canyon]

I'm using volcarona and it rocks

[next stump]

you could try gholdengo on rain and that could help the matchup

[foggy lodge]

Volcarona is pretty good i think

It ended 3rd place at Santiago regional

[molten oasis]

I’m also considering just scrapping pelipper I don’t like it

[next stump]

like ghold/peli/amoonguss is real solid into zamazenta

[timber falcon]

then scrap

[polar canyon]

Nothings stopping you

[molten oasis]

I’ve got a zacian on the team so I’ve been hesitant on dengo but ig that can work

[timber falcon]

if u dont like how a mon goes on the team just throw it out window, that is if it just dont help

[polar canyon]

As long as you can deal with landorus and ursaluna consistently I don't see the problem

[molten oasis]

Yk cuz I chose the later end of the better restricteds, as the other things I tried just didn’t feel right

[polar canyon]

Ursa bm being 2 points faster is actually such a godsend for kingambit

[molten oasis]

ig I can play dengo

lemme throw smth together

[timber falcon]

good luck

[polar canyon]

I don't get the point of cress

If you need healing so bad you have pollen puff

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/fc63c52a3029d2d6 …

[polar canyon]

Hey

[timber falcon]

oh btw drago whats that gapdos set u had

[molten oasis]

idk about this

[polar canyon]

Does tera shell work with shed tail sub?

[molten oasis]

I liked pult but whatever

[timber falcon]

it looks good tbh

[molten oasis]

Can’t fit it on realistically

[timber falcon]

.

[polar canyon]

If you do zacian and ghold it feels like you're stuck with pelipper

[molten oasis]

Scarf 252 att 252 speed is all you need

[timber falcon]

adamant?

[molten oasis]

Yes

[timber falcon]

ok ty

[molten oasis]

It looks good is a phrase I’ve heard so much just to go play it and have it feel bad

[timber falcon]

scarf right?

[timber falcon]

yes cause it looks good on paper, testing is the real judge

[molten oasis]

double steel is not something I’ve ever liked doing

[polar canyon]

Tbh looks good and is good are 2 different things

When you're sharing teams here we're not playing them

Just looking at them

[molten oasis]

yea I’m alone everytime

It sucks but whatever

[timber falcon]

which one u guys thing works best with groudonAV? Im leaning towards oger

[molten oasis]

Y’all are interested in other mons so it doesn’t matter to me

[polar canyon]

I'm interested in your teams

What I wanna use is a different thing but being interested is something else

I wanna understand the game from different povs

Even if I'm not into using zacian ho

[timber falcon]

if i had it my way id use everything, but i dont have the teambuilding skill to make it fast enough or even make it work

so i stick to what interests me atm, which are quite a few things

[polar canyon]

What clicked with me was koraidon

Which means I'll have to find a trade soon since I have Violet

[solid frigate]

same

and yes i have been lurking

[molten oasis]

wow what a good team I just lose to someone clicking buttons

[timber falcon]

which team u lose to?

[molten oasis]

Everything

[timber falcon]

specify

[molten oasis]

Miraidon kyogre groudon zama

[timber falcon]

any replays?

[molten oasis]

No

[timber falcon]

make replays so we can see if its the team thats the main problem or if youre not in the right mindset rn

probs the latter but still

[polar canyon]

Tbh if you're really really focused on having a solid team that wins most games you have to give in, and use the restricteds that win most games

[timber falcon]

i dont agree with this tbh

[polar canyon]

Ok lmk when palkia wins a regional

[solid frigate]

i mean.

Your team is build around that restricted and the teammates also need to be self sufficient

[timber falcon]

i dont think u have to use a popular one to win, given the right team and piloting, you can make it work

itll just be hard

[polar canyon]

It's not like using kyogre is gonna make you unskilled either

If you find it boring to use sure that's something else

But in a mirror or against the other dominating legends it's gonna come down to skill

[timber falcon]

the difference between palkia and kyogre is kyogre is figured out, a rain sweeper, palkia is yet to be decided how it can be made to work

[molten oasis]

Dengo ain’t it either I’m fucking done

[foggy lodge]

I got to 14millions in elite smash with Pokemon Trainer waaah

How are you doing guys?

[solid frigate]

saw some dragon Cheer Palkia teams

[timber falcon]

i think u should take a break

[timber falcon]

ive seen some specs sets

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2128472420 here’s your replay of me playing like absolute shit

[timber falcon]

you could have won that tbh, im guessing it was cts though

[polar canyon]

Some games are worse than others

[solid frigate]

and also don't get too greedy on Nasty Plot might win

[molten oasis]

I KNOW

[molten oasis]

I was never winning without it

[timber falcon]

tera grass was huge for them

[polar canyon]

Earlier I wasn't locked in and collision coursed a tera fairy zama

[foggy lodge]

Tf Heavy Slam does so much damage

[solid frigate]

i gone greedy by Swords Dance Rayquaza and Tofu said that to me before

[solid frigate]

based on weight

[timber falcon]

but he needed it to actually do reasonable damage to zama

[foggy lodge]

How heavy is Gholdengo compared to Zama

[timber falcon]

and ko torn

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

Weight (Low Kick BP)

30kg (60 BP)

Height

1.2m

Introduced

Generation 9

Pre-evolution

Gimmighoul

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Yellow

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[polar canyon]

Did it hit your flutter mane

[polar canyon]

Oh not enough

[foggy lodge]

30kg lmao

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned

Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

785kg (120 BP)

Height

2.9m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zamazenta

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Shield

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Red

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[pearl wind]

damn zama is fat

[timber falcon]

pffft 755 difference

[solid frigate]

yep Zamazenta's Strat is to be Obese and Tanky

(Sorry Zamazenta)

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

355kg (120 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zacian

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Sword

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta

Type

Fighting

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Weight (Low Kick BP)

210kg (120 BP)

Height

2.9m

Introduced

Generation 8

Other Formes

Zamazenta-Crowned

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Red

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

how much do those swords and shields weigh wtf

[solid frigate]

yeah Terapagos just fucking dies to both of the moves

[solid frigate]

the Sword Does not weight that much compare to shield

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Weight (Low Kick BP)

110kg (100 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

true shield is crazy

zama casually at 128 base speed with extra 400 kilos 😭

[dusty gate]

[solid frigate]

bro is obese but fast

(Sorry Zamazenta)

[molten oasis]

They’re ALL Tera grass

[timber falcon]

not for me

[molten oasis]

For me they are because amoonguss is that annoying which also make the mu that much harder

[timber falcon]

i just see water

[molten oasis]

That is not accurate

They have only been grass all day for me

[timber falcon]

i dont think ive ever even seen grass

[molten oasis]

Lucky

[timber falcon]

well i also dont use moongus

[molten oasis]

Ok notes for the day

I suck at the game, tilted or not

Time for another 4 days of not playing

[timber falcon]

hopefully youll feel refreshed after a break

[solid frigate]

same

i hope he does

[molten oasis]

I probably won’t

I’m stressed out

[timber falcon]

whats a mon i use to run rocky helm?

or just for rapid shifu in general

[solid frigate]

i think so

[timber falcon]

Maybe I just need a second sun setter now that I think abt it, all of a sudden torkoal looks nice

[cunning copper]

Hey guys is it possible to get banned because of the mons names?

[solid frigate]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[mighty stump]

I don't think Nicknames show up in Ranked Battles anyways.

I just wouldn't mention it around here.

[cunning copper]

well it's just a dumb joke anyways lol

[solid frigate]

i honestly don't see the joke-

[cunning copper]

It's pretty darn obvious tho

[solid frigate]

no like its just name

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/ebac31ba5c63207c think ive made myself a pretty decent team

[solid frigate]

hmmmmm

[timber falcon]

the main problem i had with the old groudon was 2 things, intim cycle and weather control, idk why i never thought of torkoal for caly-ice

[solid frigate]

hmmmmmm

[timber falcon]

it does the job very nicely, and paired with incin i can do heavy flare blitz and ignore moongus

[solid frigate]

wanna B03?

[timber falcon]

sure

name?

[solid frigate]

MorrisPXG456

i'm gonna use the same Terapagos Team

[timber falcon]

aight, sent

[ancient crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOc9op6Xr88&ab_channel=MoxieBoosted'sGym

people been unironically running giratina-o with physical set

[timber falcon]

run it back?

[solid frigate]

sure

damn its good

[timber falcon]

had to get used to what i was seeing first though

[solid frigate]

both of our teams are quite solid tho

[timber falcon]

didnt think much abt pagos MU

realised having meinshao out early wasnt a great idea

thanks for the battle

[solid frigate]

you team is great,but i have seen so many mienshao that i did not really tera into it

[solid frigate]

np

[timber falcon]

also superpower not killing pagos in the last match frightened me so much lol

[solid frigate]

lmao

[timber falcon]

im max adamant too

[solid frigate]

Terapagos-Terastal @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Tera Shift
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 HP / 236 SpA / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk

• Tera Starstorm
• Calm Mind
• Earth Power
• Protect

I just give it this

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Base Species

Terapagos

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

tortol

[mighty stump]

Just saying Terapagos can live raw Collision Course so

[solid frigate]

yeah it can live one

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

i need to keep an eye out then sheesh

also meinshao was a much needed addition, wide gauard helps so much

well ill call it a day for now and begin testing tomr, gn

[solid frigate]

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (133.3251953125 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 72-85 (35.6 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Terapagos-Stellar: 218-258 (81.6 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[ancient crow]

wait

it can?

[solid frigate]

calcs here