competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

I still think Lugia is bad, I just put it up to because its a worse Terapagos

[solid frigate]

sure its Bulky and stuff

But just one Taunt can stop them Set Up

[timber falcon]

ever try uproar farig

[solid frigate]

Terapagos has 3 noteworthy Sets

Specs,Calm Mind,Meteor Beam

[next stump]

I haven't but I have seen the post-regional video where leonard craft talks about why he brought it

[autumn vault]

To be fair we all disagree on everyone's tier lists except ours

[next stump]

it's just a little too variable of a move for me to feel comfortable with

[timber falcon]

i mean i think the take on quaza is more credible cause well, hes used it

and put it over groudon which he used

[next stump]

random targeting, failing on ghost types and protect, wonky mechanics in terms of when you can wake up/how long you are woken up for

[autumn vault]

And we can't forget my Zekrom placement too

Although it isn't overrated just because of bias

[timber falcon]

only slight problem is i dont think youve tested at least 2 of the mons u rate it over, i could be wrong

[cunning copper]

Where can I find info about these teams? Sorry a bit noob

[timber falcon]

oh yes i also need to knoe that

[autumn vault]

DW Necrozma and Ho-Oh?

I might bump up DW just because of the rental's success

Still a bit worse Lunala

[next stump]

VictoryRoadVGC is a great place to start

[timber falcon]

in the current meta i would say dawn wings > zekrom

[next stump]

You can also check LabMaus

[solid frigate]

Specs is just this

Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Draco Meteor
• Electro Drift
• Volt Switch
• Discharge

[mighty stump]

It's why I hate tier lists in general. I just used it cause it was for fun

[autumn vault]

Well they both have 2 different pokemon with the same type that outclass them, atleast they have that in common

[timber falcon]

i needed this so badly, always looking through for some regional refernce but didnt know which site

[mighty stump]

Everyone's rating is purely subjective in how they approach/think about the game.

[cunning copper]

thx @next stump @solid frigate

[gentle crag]

fieel has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd, morrispxg456

[mighty stump]

https://pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/ This is also a good place to look.

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

I don't think about other options in the meta, i think about how good they can be, not their place in the meta

[solid frigate]

Dawn Wings has Potential

But that guy who plioted my team in Stream feels-

[mighty stump]

If you think about how good they can be, you already have to think about their place in the meta

Otherwise you have no basis of comparison

[autumn vault]

Did someone use your rental?

[solid frigate]

yeah last night in stream

But its a beginner

[molten oasis]

You can’t say something has potential and then not look at how it works in the meta, that’s not how that works

[autumn vault]

I rank how i want to rank, simple as that

[molten oasis]

I can’t say spidops has potential without looking at the meta, cant go in blindly

[autumn vault]

Tbh is is already very weak

Almost nothing

[molten oasis]

That’s not the point I was trying to make

It was just an example

[solid frigate]

dude i literally looked on the meta for Dawn Wings to build the team but whatever

I just need to see if that guy can pilot my team well

[molten oasis]

Building with Zacian was fairly hard since incin ruins its life at times and getting it to a point it feels strong was rough

[timber falcon]

idk i do think mewtwo can work, not saying it isnt bad rn lol

[molten oasis]

Plus the presence of a steel or fire type can also become annoying especially with dengo on the rise

[solid frigate]

plus there are many better Physical ATtackers

[autumn vault]

I can tell from the amount of breaks you had by just trying to make Zacian work

[molten oasis]

It’s what I do

[solid frigate]

from the Beginning of Reg G announced

[molten oasis]

I run off meta mons

So I get more frustrated trying to get things to work out

[timber falcon]

its hard

[autumn vault]

I also do that and i can relate, just look at Zekrom for example

[solid frigate]

meanwhile me who uses Cresselia:I am in depression

[molten oasis]

However

[autumn vault]

It is much easier to get frustrated at a niche pokemon more than a meta one

[molten oasis]

I feel I’m at a point where I can make teams with stuff like that and do well

[solid frigate]

i made 14 Terapagos Team so i kinda get you

[timber falcon]

i agrue agaisnt this, i failed to make caly-s work somehow

[molten oasis]

Ok but terapagos is meta

[timber falcon]

and i was pissed

[autumn vault]

Skill Issue

[molten oasis]

At least it’s easier to use Terapagos than like, Dawn Wings for example

[timber falcon]

its worse when u cant even utilise a meta mon

[solid frigate]

Cresselia isn't-

[molten oasis]

Well if it’s doing it’s job it’s fine

[solid frigate]

I pair it with Cress and A9 before

[timber falcon]

true tbh

[solid frigate]

Idk how i craft that team

[molten oasis]

Not that I like saying this I love a9 but a9 is not good

[autumn vault]

And i can say the same for a few people

Like 1UK3 for example

[molten oasis]

It doesn’t do enough and gets kinda wiped too easily

[timber falcon]

deep seeded hatred i see

[molten oasis]

If it had better special attack it might have been better

[autumn vault]

This is an issue i had with the Kyurem-W team, it is too frail to get an aurora veil up

Especially with Fake Out in the meta

[solid frigate]

i just kinda, also don't liike he Ignored all of us

[molten oasis]

That and pelipper torn and whims are everywhere rn

[autumn vault]

I did not mean to shift the conversation

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-elekid-uses-protect-elekid-uses-protect-elekid-pokemon-elekid-protect-gif-26439951

[cunning copper]

where can i find IDs to borrow a team?

[molten oasis]

One thing I do like about Zac btw, Zac has a positive mu into all the dragons and my set punishes Tera’s

[autumn vault]

You still waste a turn

[solid frigate]

#rental_teams There are some nice teams in there

[molten oasis]

Well koraidon is neutral, but mirai is positive

[timber falcon]

its not a waste if ur protected from FO lol

[solid frigate]

except maybe Reshiram but that does not matter that much

[timber falcon]

completely plausible approach

[molten oasis]

Groudon is a bad mu

[cunning copper]

Thx otherwise i'll spend 100 hours just building one sigh

[autumn vault]

Honestly my biggest struggles with Zekrom is Ice types and Sun teams, which is why i thought Zek + Peli is a good combo

And Zek + Amoonguss + Incin

Counters the worst MUs

[solid frigate]

People genuinely suprised i put Calyrex Ice Rider in top 3 worst Terapagos Matchup

[autumn vault]

And helps it set up easier

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta,Koraidon and Caly I

[timber falcon]

lol i came to comp chat to ask a question and just realised how distracted ive gotten

[molten oasis]

Anyway, I do want to say my thoughts on where Zac is in the format. Zac is good, I think it’ll be stronger in double restricted with Kyogre or Caly S. Zac is in the top 10 for me.

[autumn vault]

Top 5 worst Zekrom MUs i prepare for: Calyrex Ice Kyurem-W Zamazenta Groudon Koraidon

[timber falcon]

any ideas for a scream tail set?

[solid frigate]

its shy behind top 10 for me but i can see

[autumn vault]

And a lot of those are countered by just using Incineroar and pelipper

[molten oasis]

I just plan to be using Zac for a while until NAIC ends then I’ll probably move on to smth else

[solid frigate]

For me its,

Zamazenta,Koraidon,Calyrex Ice Rider,Kyurem Black and Maybe Groudon?

[molten oasis]

Idk what yet

[solid frigate]

but Groudon for me its fine cuz i have mons to care about it

[autumn vault]

So both struggle a lot against those 5

Honestly with Fake Out and Amoonguss my Zekrom becomes a Miraidon killer

[molten oasis]

That or I’ll just continue to run zacian anyway

[solid frigate]

Miraidon is close, but Calm Mind Terapagos and Amoonguss is just cool

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

Helps to stop it from hurting Zek and finish it off with a powerful bolt strike or d-claw

[cunning copper]

No Miraidon team

[mighty stump]

Lmaoo

[autumn vault]

There is a Koraidon team coming up soon

[mighty stump]

Theres a Biei Gloom rental

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[solid frigate]

Gloom moment

[south shuttle]

last time reposting the poll for my vgc team ima build around

[autumn vault]

Ok

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/byjP9biCRsM?si=fsgf8qYLpfC30RYb

Me when i saw a Koraidon or Zamazenta in a Team Preview:

[molten oasis]

anyway

I’m gonna go play Hades more

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[cunning copper]

lmao what's that supposed to mean

[south shuttle]

isnt hades 2 supposed to come out soon?

[molten oasis]

I want to beat the main game first

[solid frigate]

if you listen to the music you understand why.

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-screaming-spongebob-scared-gif-22994973

[molten oasis]

There’s early access out rn

[south shuttle]

understandable

[graceful flare]

Indeedee amrourouge player alrt

[solid frigate]

whats wrong with it?

[mighty stump]

Oh wait I can answer this

"It's cringe"

[molten oasis]

Lol

[solid frigate]

[graceful flare]

Indeede armarouge is annoying and absolutely no skill to use

[mighty stump]

I was close

[autumn vault]

Honestly it is much easier to deal with than before

[solid frigate]

Bro you use a Psyspam Team of Calyrex Shadow Rider-

[molten oasis]

Should have guessed that smh

[mighty stump]

Read it wrong smh

[graceful flare]

How do u know

[molten oasis]

Nothing takes no skill to use

[autumn vault]

Ngl i laughed a little, realized you are right

[solid frigate]

in fact i think both 1UK3 and I'm I'm I'm Uses Psyspam on Caly S

[autumn vault]

1UK3 does use it

[molten oasis]

It takes less skill to use is probably the better term

[solid frigate]

yeah

[graceful flare]

I use a koraidon team and gouging fire but I quit it yesterday and going back to caly today

[autumn vault]

Just confirming it

[graceful flare]

I used it for abt 2 days

[mighty stump]

It's always the least experienced players talking the most crap about archetypes without room for discussion lol

[solid frigate]

also I used Dawn Wings Psyspam Team and i don't get hate from it,in fact people wanna use it!

[molten oasis]

Frfr

[autumn vault]

1. They aren't great partners
2. raging Bolt is the better Dragon Partner

Even Wake is better for it then Gouging

[solid frigate]

Raging Goat

[molten oasis]

Raging bolt is a pseudo restricted

[graceful flare]

Raging bolt I'd dowarer

[solid frigate]

so does Chi Yu (In Firepower at least)

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/059a163f00940f04 What i use on Koraidon

[graceful flare]

I hit an entei with a thunder clap and it did like 1 fifth of the health

[solid frigate]

In fact i think Pseudo Restricted are just Bolt,Chi Yu and BM Ursa

[molten oasis]

I wish gouging fire felt better in the format, at least for me

[autumn vault]

In my eyes it is the succesful SpA priority version of Zekrom

[south shuttle]

does quick claw guaranteed a move first on the first turn?

[molten oasis]

It’s a chance

[dapper crag]

Item: Quick Claw

Each turn, holder has a 20% chance to move first in its priority bracket.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[molten oasis]

Not guaranteed

[autumn vault]

Must have been AV

[molten oasis]

Most Entei are AV I believe

[south shuttle]

every time i face a quick claw its always the first turn

[molten oasis]

That or band/life orb

[solid frigate]

its second best in Legendary Beasts so there is still a chance

[south shuttle]

but is there a berry for a first turn priority?

[graceful flare]

I will never use Raging bolt after the entei incident

[molten oasis]

No

[solid frigate]

i can see Goggles Entei but AV and Band are better

[autumn vault]

Correct

[solid frigate]

bruh

[autumn vault]

After this i will permanently ignore you for the rest of my life

[graceful flare]

Raging bolt is absolutely disgusting

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-dies-of-cringe-cringe-dust-gif-21399701

[graceful flare]

It can hardly hit

[solid frigate]

yeah i think everyone hates you now

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-bear-im-out-cringe-too-much-dies-gif-21313788

[graceful flare]

It's so bad tho it can hardly do damage

[molten oasis]

I like raging bolt

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-nope-not-happy-gif-13797155

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-15288403

[molten oasis]

Oh, yea alright

[autumn vault]

Sun Bolt does very good damage

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1021: Raging Bolt

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/73/91/137/89/75

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-leaving-turning-around-no-gif-13061064

[south shuttle]

you can run some goofy tech with this berry

[autumn vault]

Hits harder than Mane

[solid frigate]

Booster or AV bolt is Common

[dapper crag]

Item: Custap Berry

Holder moves first in its priority bracket when at 1/4 max HP or less. Single use.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

True

And CM isn't as good but its still solid

[graceful flare]

It's like whenever I use it the game immediately puts me into a game where all thw pokemon that i have a good match up against raging bolt has am assult ves

[solid frigate]

sussy tech lol

[south shuttle]

ye

[molten oasis]

Skill, issue

[autumn vault]

Urshifu-R and Tornadus? Ogerpon Wellspring after tera? Bundle?

[molten oasis]

[south shuttle]

i saw some weakness policy endure ceruledge tech

[autumn vault]

Lets ignore that one

[solid frigate]

Bundle maybe not but others are definently

[autumn vault]

Too cringe for my likening

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/6182cd52d6e47f58 thoughts????

[molten oasis]

Not enough Koraidon

[solid frigate]

i saw that before but i feel like Open Team Sheets makes it obvious so i did not use it

[molten oasis]

Also your offense literally lies in Groudon

[solid frigate]

not enough Sun lol

[molten oasis]

You have 3 more support and then ig rilla

[timber falcon]

torn does a lot of chip, and rilla

[solid frigate]

ask Super Mario Sunshine

[molten oasis]

They’re not sweepers

[timber falcon]

is sweeping always needed?

[solid frigate]

Rilla just hits hard as well

Can beat both Kyogre and Groudon without Tera

[mighty stump]

Ok imma just ❌

[timber falcon]

im winning most of my games

[molten oasis]

You need something to be offensive

[south shuttle]

yes but in singles it can do some damage

[timber falcon]

2 are offensive

[solid frigate]

its not singles damn it but ok

[molten oasis]

Yk what nvm add fluttermane

[timber falcon]

torn does lots of chip cause investments

[molten oasis]

I’m leaving fr this time

https://tenor.com/view/fast-run-run-running-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-13913941

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-bear-im-out-cringe-too-much-dies-gif-21313788

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[solid frigate]

My dissapointment on Raging Bolt Slander is just immeasurable

[autumn vault]

Pls do

[molten oasis]

y’all can handle this

[timber falcon]

i dont see a good enough reason to

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-edgy-moon-cross-arms-teleport-gif-4917223

[autumn vault]

No, i can't, i am going with you

Adios

[solid frigate]

Sayonara as well

[timber falcon]

lol am i being ignorant again

[molten oasis]

Theres, k

You have

[solid frigate]

sorry man

[molten oasis]

Torn, who’s tw support

[solid frigate]

also Rain

[timber falcon]

and hard hitter

[molten oasis]

Rilla and Incin who are FO pressure

[south shuttle]

WHY DOES EVERY LEGENDARY HAVE PRESSURE

[timber falcon]

its s sun team

[molten oasis]

And pivot

[solid frigate]

nvm

and Rilla Hits Hard af

[timber falcon]

my point

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 812: Rillaboom

Type

Grass

Abilities

Overgrow, Grassy Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/125/90/60/70/85

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[molten oasis]

Then scream tail for, some reason

[solid frigate]

support?

[timber falcon]

after deep consideration

[molten oasis]

Omg that’s not the point, IM AWARE RILLA HITS HARD

[solid frigate]

i think we talked about Scream tail now

[timber falcon]

scream tail was added cause the team needed smth that could yk, get more on the way

[molten oasis]

you have 3 supports and also Torn hits for decent damage

It’s not like

Big damage

It’s just alright

[timber falcon]

yep

[solid frigate]

idk if Scream Tail is good enough

[molten oasis]

You have 0 big damage dealers ON A SUN TEAM

[timber falcon]

from testing so far it is

[molten oasis]

Besides groudon

Who has the wrong item

[timber falcon]

wrong is the wrong term

[molten oasis]

If the scream tail was howl sure

Groudon wants clesr amulet

[solid frigate]

Groudon is kinda well...

[timber falcon]

no no AV works from what ive seen so far

[molten oasis]

Not that I’d say run groudon as koraidon is the better setter

[autumn vault]

You still get ground and a pokemon who is less dependant on tera and sun

It is worse than Koraidon

[molten oasis]

Koraidon doesn’t need Tera

[timber falcon]

its also mainly supposed to be balance, not HO

[autumn vault]

Idk mine loves it

[molten oasis]

Balance has big damage dealers

[solid frigate]

don't mind me playing VGC 2016 in a room

[molten oasis]

Not sure where that idea came from

[autumn vault]

I jumped into the shitty chat rooms again

[timber falcon]

yeah and groudon and rilla hit like trucks. wood hammer is literally at 187 bp for it

[autumn vault]

I can't spot you

[solid frigate]

i did not chat there

[molten oasis]

I give up

Run amoonguss

[timber falcon]

why

[molten oasis]

There ya go mr “I only need rilla and groudon”

Cuz you CLEARLY need more support

[timber falcon]

i literally never said that

[autumn vault]

I found your username on the tournament list

[molten oasis]

You’re putting it that way

[solid frigate]

Xerneas Primal Kyogre lol

[timber falcon]

i know my last member has to offensive, im just saying rilla and groudon are offensive too lol

[autumn vault]

I joined the match btw

[timber falcon]

i think theres a miscommunication

[molten oasis]

I’m going to the store

You can figure out your team members I’m done

[timber falcon]

ok

[south shuttle]

💀

[molten oasis]

Don’t feel like arguing with a brick wall anymore

As I’m also speed deprived and can’t collect thoughts

[autumn vault]

Feel familiar?

OTOT, what is the team so far?

[molten oasis]

Yea

🫵

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/6182cd52d6e47f58

[south shuttle]

wdym

[autumn vault]

1UK3

[timber falcon]

im just looking for justifications of choice, not just "run flutter"

[autumn vault]

1. Don't use AV, use CLear Amulet

2. No need to run Bulk with sash

3. scream Tail is bad

[molten oasis]

No remember I’m done? You can figure it out

[timber falcon]

see thats the problem

lyco u gave 3 reason

well 3 things i should do/not do

but 1 has a justification, only 1

[foggy lodge]

Scream tailllll

[autumn vault]

Clear Amulet is the most popular item on Groudon

Plus it allows it to OHKO incineroar

[molten oasis]

You run clear amulet to beat incineroar without worrying about intimidate and breaking swipes

You don’t run bulk because your sash unless it’s minor bulk for something specific

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/8a24e2782cef1a56

@autumn vault also yes i burnt it

[timber falcon]

rapid ursh, but i guess sun helps agiainst that

[molten oasis]

Scream tail is fine as it is but you lack offensive pressure

[knotty mirage]

Is it fine to change dicharge with dazzling gleam on choice spec miraidon set ?

[molten oasis]

I don’t want to hear anything about rilla

[solid frigate]

monke

[autumn vault]

Very interesting team

[molten oasis]

Rilla isn’t the one doing offensive dsmage on a regular basis

[solid frigate]

Greninja is a bit bias

but it has some use in Gen 6

[autumn vault]

I said, not just Bias

[timber falcon]

but then im also looking at AV benefits, and i honeestly think if i position fine AV works just fine

[autumn vault]

I can tell it was for other purpouses and not just favouritism

[molten oasis]

Sure, you just have to suffer against incin at times

[timber falcon]

same with zac no?

just abt the team

[solid frigate]

its for Xerneas esque team

[molten oasis]

Zac has 1 anti intimidate that I use well

[autumn vault]

If you are very worried about Special attackers then run screens or snarl

[timber falcon]

also now im considering howl

makes more sense on scream tail

[autumn vault]

If you want to go Howl then congrats you found a way to justify AV

[molten oasis]

Groudon doenst have that

[autumn vault]

But Clear Amulet is better

No argument about that

[molten oasis]

For groudon to do real damage with dealing with incin it’s gonna have to switch out which is a loss of momentum

Clesr amulet prevents that

[autumn vault]

And it also blocks other stat reducing elements

So it is not just there for blocking intimidate (mostly)

[molten oasis]

Also Hearthflame looks good here as it pairs well with groudon and rillaboom

[timber falcon]

i dont like the overlap

[molten oasis]

Ok then run fluttermane

Specs

[timber falcon]

justification??

[molten oasis]

For damage

…

So you’re gonna just try scream tail but I have to justify why one of the best sun mons should be on the sun team???

[craggy dagger]

cause haha funny you’re facing a god now feel the pressure

[solid frigate]

Articuno:

[autumn vault]

We don't need to constantly justify our answers, you know

[timber falcon]

i gave a scream tail justification, im just looking for how flutter synergises with the team rn

[autumn vault]

Cosmog and Cosmoem:

[craggy dagger]

they don’t have pressure do they-

[molten oasis]

Ok but I say Hearthflame and you’re scared about what, flying weaknesses?

[autumn vault]

Just accept our answers OT

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 790: Cosmoem

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Sturdy

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

43/29/131/29/131/37

Total

400

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/U8faEi4IlFI?si=Y0uIIVh7FVvrkskc

Huh

[timber falcon]

you dont and i wont force you, ill just not understand the advice lol

[autumn vault]

Then run Raging Bolt, simple as that

[molten oasis]

I feel like my point on arguing with a brick wall is slowly getting more valid

[solid frigate]

give it Body Press :]

[timber falcon]

is it ok to have it with both incin and rilla? talking type overlap

[molten oasis]

What won a regional last reg

[autumn vault]

Recently i have been arguing with a lot of brick walls, 1UK3, I'm I'm I'm, OT, Chat rooms, etc.

[molten oasis]

What did WOLFEY win with last reg

[autumn vault]

I will let OT answer this

[timber falcon]

not taking advice with no reasons behind it isnt brick wall arguing lel

[solid frigate]

ok at least OTOT listen to us

[molten oasis]

Does he?

[foggy lodge]

Do you guys like mario kart

[autumn vault]

Even if its just a bit

[timber falcon]

id say i do

[solid frigate]

better than the first 2

[autumn vault]

Only the Wii, 8DX is imo a bit overrated

[molten oasis]

We’ve given him options and he’s just denied pretty much all of them so idk

[solid frigate]

Rosalina main here

[timber falcon]

like rn i think heartflame can work

[autumn vault]

So NOW you say it?

[molten oasis]

Then add it

[timber falcon]

i have not denied them, i asked for why exactly

[autumn vault]

Drago asked you to add it

[craggy dagger]

which one

[autumn vault]

If we don't tell you why then you just deny them

[timber falcon]

did u read my previous comments?

[solid frigate]

Don't mind me just lemme brainwash myself with a Kurzgesagt Video

[molten oasis]

Well you need some throughly thought out reason for your members for whatever reason

[timber falcon]

i never said that, i consider the idea in my head b4 saying anything

[craggy dagger]

let OT do as they want-
don’t try to pressure a mon onto the team…

[autumn vault]

True

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-spongebob-drums-joke-ba-gif-22902854

[molten oasis]

You’re right, Yk what

[autumn vault]

But if he wants to see a lot of success then changes will have to be made

[craggy dagger]

[autumn vault]

Its sad but true

[craggy dagger]

it’s part of the team building learning process

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

Let’s throw my thoughts out the window, OTOT knows what’s he’s doing so its not worth my time

[craggy dagger]

[autumn vault]

Drago's right, i will also dip

[craggy dagger]

you know that’s not what i meant

[timber falcon]

i said im doing heartflame is that not taking advice?

[autumn vault]

Besides i got other stuff to do

[autumn vault]

Once, only once

[craggy dagger]

just drop it-
both sides

[solid frigate]

I'll brain wash myself in Kurzgesagt video

[molten oasis]

Just, drop it plz, if your gonna use Hearthflame go for it

[solid frigate]

I'm just here

[craggy dagger]

i need to do the same-

[molten oasis]

I’m over it

[craggy dagger]

or i might go chat with my ppl

[autumn vault]

I will fix myself by going outside and relaxing

[solid frigate]

Black Hole Video showed up and imma go and watch it

[timber falcon]

no cause theres still this miscommunication abt denying advice i wanna fix it

[molten oasis]

No I’m good thanks

[craggy dagger]

wait-
ok no i’m watching that-
my ppl can wait

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

if i ask for a reason on a mon i just want u guys to know im thinking abt it, sorry if this cause confusion

[solid frigate]

its ok,i also done that before

[timber falcon]

i dont want u guys to think im ignoring u

[solid frigate]

nah you did not

you are fine

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger what miss

[solid frigate]

i love Kurzgesagt shitposting

[timber falcon]

just wanted to clear things up, if heartflame doesnt go as planned ill go back to flutter

[solid frigate]

thats ok

try things out

[craggy dagger]

i’m just gonna. say this-
if you’re using a mon, give a reason but don’t try to justify it and defend it with your life

as for the ppl giving advice, try not to force ideas onto people. it’s okay to voice your opinions but if they want to use what they said, i’d just let them be first-
since it’s part of a team building process to run a rough team idea and refine it over time

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

o dumb people stuff

[timber falcon]

i thought reason and justfification the same thing lol

[molten oasis]

I got upset about feeling like my advice isn’t being heard out, sorry, I need to go take a breather

[bold geode]

I'm here now so now it's real dumb people stuff

[autumn vault]

I just wanted to get the advice in OTOT's head

[craggy dagger]

lfg

[autumn vault]

You do have fair points, i will admit
But if you want to have a lot of success sadly it will have to do

[solid frigate]

Lyco its not always works

[timber falcon]

yeah dw i absorbed all the advice lol, just considering things ( i take wayy to long to team build)

[molten oasis]

You’re not as dumb as the person who can’t keep their temper under control

[craggy dagger]

if you’re going to ask for advice, at least hear the ppl out before you defend it with your life

[solid frigate]

damn i took 2-3 minutes-

[craggy dagger]

people register information?

[autumn vault]

Apologies about before btw

I did go pretty far

[timber falcon]

not tryna argue back but when i asked for justification i meant for a reason, prolly shouldve asked what it brought to the team to make it clear

[autumn vault]

We just give advice because it's the best for the team

[bold geode]

It's ok, have Rillaboom taco stance

[solid frigate]

monke moment

[molten oasis]

sure, whatever

[craggy dagger]

taco from grass monke sounds yum

[timber falcon]

whats the wood hammer description

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Hands banan instead

[molten oasis]

I’ll be back later maybe, not that it matters if I’m around

[craggy dagger]

80 or 30’to self i can’t read

[bold geode]

Ok maybe take away that last one

[timber falcon]

oh then thats one OP move

[solid frigate]

i wanna judge the tortol

[autumn vault]

I don't regret that 3rd option btw

[timber falcon]

i will forever vote for u to use zekrom

[bold geode]

Stop it

[chrome knot]

quit being a weirdo lmao

[bold geode]

Also I have no idea, it's so fucking blurry

[autumn vault]

OK? You want me to constantly improve it?

[molten oasis]

I’ll try

[timber falcon]

pretty much lol

[craggy dagger]

[autumn vault]

pelipper incin Zekrom = Damn that core isn't easy to deal with

[craggy dagger]

being weird is cool

[molten oasis]

Not that kind of weird

[bold geode]

Never

[chrome knot]

saying stuff like that and acting like the main character is not

[timber falcon]

i think its just being a bit negative towards himself

[autumn vault]

Just don't be as weird as those blue discord PFP and moon/crescent moon guys

(Im Im Im and 1UK3)

[solid frigate]

bro I'm I'm I'm Insist on battling me

[craggy dagger]

oh woe is i for i have fallen down this flight of stairs into the depths of hell.
how shall i ever get out of this purgatory?
i must find guidance from the great sage from within to help me on my quest

[solid frigate]

and i say no cuz he is annoying as fu

[autumn vault]

Let me battle him, i can destroy him

[craggy dagger]

[autumn vault]

Plus it is satisfaction

Winning

[solid frigate]

angy

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/staph-it-staph-cat-cage-angry-kitten-gif-25610564

[solid frigate]

Incineroars trying to make people's lives worse be like

[molten oasis]

Sorry I acted out that way towards you @timber falcon

[timber falcon]

its aight i saw my errors

[molten oasis]

Im gonna actually go take a breather, I got stuff to do anyway

[timber falcon]

i am a brick wall at times lmao

[solid frigate]

at least you are a brick wall that sounds can pass through

[bold geode]

Why when you can just play Showdown and procrastinate

[craggy dagger]

i’m just-
really stubborn…
i won a game yesterday with IDBP slam sleep talk zam

[solid frigate]

kek

[autumn vault]

Also while we are at it, i apologized before so i will do it again, i did go pretty far and i just thought that the team members weren't good

[timber falcon]

revise for tests ❌ play showdown and tell urself youve got time ✅

[molten oasis]

btw with the other comment earlier I have confidence issues, so things like that get out sometimes and it’s hard ti control at times, I’m working on it, anyway bye

[autumn vault]

Bye

[bold geode]

Yeah (I am surrounded by errands plz help)

[timber falcon]

scream tail is questionable, AV is inspired from swsh

[craggy dagger]

take care drago

[solid frigate]

Me when i use Necrozma Psyspam

[autumn vault]

I am not qualified to tell you to not use Groudon, i like it and i use Zekrom so i can't

[autumn vault]

Me with the +7 exams coming up:

[timber falcon]

relatable

[mighty stump]

I think you guys will benefit on just changing up your language

When trying to discuss/criticise things

[craggy dagger]

hey tofu

[mighty stump]

Hello hello

Like, even if something is generally agreed to be bad, you don’t have to say “this is bad don’t use it”, since that just creates friction

[bold geode]

Hola

[mighty stump]

Giving deeper reasons that are evidence based can also be a better way of approaching things

Understanding that some people play according to preferences

Language matters a lot

I guess for me at least since it’s a huge part of my profession, using the correct language is very key to client interaction

[timber falcon]

ik

[autumn vault]

I have anger issues from some things in the past and i somehow make heated convo's very easy to make, i have been trying to get less mad and you do bring very valid points

Competitive games have very good ways of making people angrier

[mighty stump]

Just because we disagree with something also doesn’t mean it’s worth dismissing. Giving credit where it’s due can also streamline discussion a lot better

[autumn vault]

Fair points

[mighty stump]

This is also coming from someone with deep rooted anger

[bold geode]

Tofu's a hater

[mighty stump]

That has nothing to do with anger

[bold geode]

Tofu probably listened to that one line from Euphoria and thought of a few people

[mighty stump]

I am a very happy person in general and I still hate the majority of people

[bold geode]

Tofu's not racist
He hates everyone

[mighty stump]

The only things that bring out genuine anger is blatant ignorance and stupidity

[bold geode]

........

[timber falcon]

i find it really hard to hate someone lol

[autumn vault]

I can relate to that, i mean just look at us trying to help 1UK3, thats enough proof to know that this is true

[mighty stump]

I guess hate is the wrong word for it

I am apathetic

[bold geode]

Is hate a strong word or

[chrome knot]

tofuuuu

[mighty stump]

I do not care whether or not you exist cause it makes 0 difference to my life

[mighty stump]

hello emma

[chrome knot]

good morning

[mighty stump]

is that MSS CHAMPION EMMA BROOKES

[chrome knot]

AAA

[craggy dagger]

[mighty stump]

[chrome knot]

my record that weekend was quite killer

i did so gud i so happy

[autumn vault]

I mean from a tournament champion thats not surprising to hear

[chrome knot]

it was 3 mss days

[autumn vault]

I can tell it was very big from just 3 days

[chrome knot]

day 1 4-2(t8)
day 2 2-3(lost win&in to luck)
day 3 7-1(W)

[mighty stump]

Damn can’t believe we have MSS CHAMPION EMMA BROOKES in this chat

[chrome knot]

+75cp weekend (!!)

TOFU brooks is without an E LOL

[mighty stump]

Did you know Yotam is missing literally 3 CP from his invite

Its so kek

[mighty stump]

BROOKS

[chrome knot]

tf is he going to naic ?

[timber falcon]

ok i might mess up here but, what exactly is MSS?

[mighty stump]

Ye he has other locals

[chrome knot]

ah fair

[mighty stump]

Its just funny

3 cp

can you imagine

[chrome knot]

mid season showdown, local that in terms of pts is 1 step below a regional

[bold geode]

Could've had more with a silly little item
|| Called PP Up ||

[chrome knot]

but we had a lot of out of town players so they were stacked

[timber falcon]

ah ok just wanted to properly understand the hype lol

[mighty stump]

If everyone couldnlike

Block Monke for me

That would be great

[cunning copper]

If you had to pick a team to learn mechanics in casual battles what would you pick?

[timber falcon]

the joke was funni

[mighty stump]

Ok

Im blocking u too

For thinking Monke is funny

[cunning copper]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-monke-monkey-spin-ape-gif-25078721

[mighty stump]

I would just pick any established team, preferrably one that has a write up like Aaron Traylor’s Miraidon team (similar to Rajan Bal’s winning team) and just hop into Ranked

[spiral ridge]

You haven’t already?

[mighty stump]

Casual battles aren’t really representative of Ranked battles, so it’s best to just get into it

Focusing on improving and the W/L ratio comes naturally

[cunning copper]

really?

[bold geode]

Y'know what

[mighty stump]

Casual battles are full of people that aren’t trying, aren’t well-versed in competitive, or just memes. So overall match quality is fairly poor

[autumn vault]

Sure why not

[mighty stump]

Its best to be in a proper environment that you can learn from

[autumn vault]

There you go

[cunning copper]

makes sense ok

[mighty stump]

LOL

[bold geode]

Take blurry image Tofu
Take that

Wtf

Tofu can you delete shit

[mighty stump]

What blurry image

[cunning copper]

can't find a lease ID with his team

[bold geode]

You motherfucker

[mighty stump]

Give me a moment.

[bold geode]

Tofu be like rn

[cunning copper]

you are the mvp thx m8

[gentle crag]

fieel has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

https://x.com/tbfunreality/status/1790791028250640843?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ

Aaron T. (@TBFUnreality) on X

@blaramons @NBplaid @rakom_ @WolfeyGlick @jackofspadesman @AgatiGa @Yukizan_ @DillonODonovan @CybertronVGC @richlesbianceo_ paste and rental one last time:

https://t.co/TLBbZcHsKS

Twitter · May 15, 2024, 5:07 PM

[bold geode]

Is there not a gif of Roger the alien getting hit by the chair

[mighty stump]

Guide is also in the post above that tweet

So I recommend reading it

[bold geode]

What

I can't find one

[cunning copper]

thanks a lot, time to try it out

[mighty stump]

Its literally in the same thread you ingrate

[bold geode]

No I meant the GIF

[timber falcon]

time to look up another word i have no idea what the meaning is. Tofu expanding my vocabulary atp

"not grateful"

[bold geode]

You know that one episode of American Dad where Roger gets hit with the chair? Can't find a GIF for it

[craggy dagger]

WHEN DID YOU GET HERE

[mighty stump]

Here’s a bonus word: troglodyte

[timber falcon]

"MonkeVGC"

[chrome knot]

tofuuuuu my tweet blew up🥺

i wannaaaa cryyyyy

[mighty stump]

U did good

Gib clout

[autumn vault]

Someone that was raised in a cave (especially the prehistoric)

[chrome knot]

so many rly good players liked it ><

[mighty stump]

MSS Champion is still a neat thing to add as a title

[timber falcon]

i wanna see

[mighty stump]

Emma Brooks, MSS Champion 1/X

[chrome knot]

olivia moledzki who id consider our best canadian player said i was the queen of windsor

[spiral ridge]

Nice seeing you too

[chrome knot]

windsor being my city which was funnyyy

[mighty stump]

Thats a great title

[chrome knot]

im the vgc queen of my city

[mighty stump]

How does it feel to be royalty

[chrome knot]

lovely

[mighty stump]

CIR getting another title

[next stump]

wtf is this crossover

HAHAHA

[mighty stump]

LOL

[chrome knot]

LMFAO WHAT

[mighty stump]

NO WAY

HAHAHAHA

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/setsumizi/status/1792666687013285993?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

Emma Brooks (@setsumizi) on X

I WON AN MSS WAAAHAAHCLVLSIEHTMVISHJRV MY PLAY HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY INSANE IM SOSO HAPPYYYYYY

Twitter · May 20, 2024, 9:20 PM

go look at likes so many beeg namesssss

[spiral ridge]

Oh you won? Congrats

[molten oasis]

Emma built different

[craggy dagger]

so when are you playing vgc?

[mighty stump]

Oh wow how come i dont follow u wtf

Fixed that

[chrome knot]

yay !

[cunning copper]

What does Pivot/Pivoting ability of a mon mean in the competitive jargon?

[mighty stump]

Again, proud of u

[chrome knot]

[timber falcon]

very odd question

[chrome knot]

thanks a lot like it means soso much

[timber falcon]

tofu, would u consider urself smart? Like ur own view

[mighty stump]

Switching. Essentially pivots are ways of re-positioning your Pokemon to create a more advantageous board state

[graceful flare]

I'm smart

(I'm in special needs)

[mighty stump]

Most of the time pivots also come attached with moves like U-Turn or Volt Switch

[mighty stump]

Uhh

[cunning copper]

now everything makes sense

[mighty stump]

I’d say I’m observant

and I’m average

[timber falcon]

ok just curious

[mighty stump]

I know many smarter people

[graceful flare]

I'm smart too

[mighty stump]

Why?

[autumn vault]

Who asked?

[timber falcon]

question popped up so i asked it, i think a lot (just having conversations with myself)

[graceful flare]

What did I do

[autumn vault]

Nothing wrong

[mighty stump]

I see

[graceful flare]

Is this bc of the raging bolt incident

[autumn vault]

Just responded to a question OTOT didn't ask you, not the incident

[craggy dagger]

i’m perceptive and oblivious-
and also stupid af

[mighty stump]

I think being smart is multi-faceted

Theres booksmart/streetsmart/creatives/etc

[cunning copper]

https://attraylor.medium.com/miraidons-big-day-indianapolis-regionals-2024-top-8-team-report-9e25996d6641 I'm getting lost in the sauce so much

[mighty stump]

People who can apply, people who can teach

[mighty stump]

Its a good read

[cunning copper]

For example, I am never sure about the 4 core mons to pick

Well I guess I just gotta jump in and try

[graceful flare]

Raging bolt av move set

[mighty stump]

Santiago Regional data

The Calys dropping

[graceful flare]

Calyrex is good

[autumn vault]

Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 148 HP / 148 Def / 116 SpA / 92 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk

• Thunderclap
• Thunderbolt
• Draco Meteor
• Snarl

[timber falcon]

lol who knew zama would make so much of a rise, it really did just need body press

[cunning copper]

Will Incineroar ever not be freaking OP ?

[autumn vault]

Or Behemoth Bash to use Defense

But that would be too broken

[timber falcon]

yeah

[mighty stump]

Incineroar is never OP though

[graceful flare]

I don't use attacks that aren't 100% accurate unless it's a spread move

[mighty stump]

It’s perfectly balanced

[timber falcon]

incineroar covers MUs for me, i like it

[mighty stump]

Incineroar has all the necessary tools that keep actually broken mons from running around unchecked

[timber falcon]

threatens both calys

[cunning copper]

but it's in most teams

[timber falcon]

zac, tera ghost + wisp for zama

taunt too, incin simply is that mon (cant forget intimidate)

[mighty stump]

Usage doesn’t fully dictate how broken something is

Id also would try to shy away from calling things broken since sometimes people use it as an excuse for their matchup planning

CSR is still arguably broken, beating even it’s supposed counterplay, yet it’s not the top most used Restricted

[cunning copper]

thx a lot for all the advice @mighty stump

[gentle crag]

fieel has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[chrome knot]

knowledge check

hes not op lol

[molten oasis]

Id be willing to see it nerfed as I kinda don’t like it atm but it’s not op

[timber falcon]

Incin is perfectly balanced lol why nerf

[molten oasis]

Who said it was balanced?

[timber falcon]

Me and tofu

And I agree tbf

[molten oasis]

Ah, just remove parting shot

A fire dark type with intimidate isn’t ever not gonna be good

[timber falcon]

How does it correlate?

[cunning copper]

i literally did my first pvp battle right now so yeah lol

[molten oasis]

Parting shot just allows you to make any physical attacker -2 in 2 turns and I think it’s a bit much

[cunning copper]

and ilost

[molten oasis]

-3*

I feel like u-turn was enough for pivoting tbh

[mighty stump]

Its already been balanced though

Clear Amulet

Lol

[molten oasis]

that’s just me and the fact I use zacian so I somewhat hate it anyway lol

[mighty stump]

Clear Amulet/Covert Cloak + Armor Tail and amongst other tools already nerfed Incin indirectly

[pearl wind]

specifically for zacian it would be sweet if howl could go through sub

or if parting shot* wouldn't go through sub

but

[molten oasis]

I wish zacian was better than it was but Yk, can’t do anything about that myself

Also howl’s a sound move I fail to understand how sub prevents it

[molten oasis]

that is fair

I don’t get that option with my dog tho, so I have mixed feelings on it rn

[chrome knot]

meant in general incin is a knowledge check pokemon

[molten oasis]

I spend my money wisely

[spiral ridge]

When the wheel gambles it

Surprised it hasn’t yet tbh

But that’s also in line with my luck

[craggy dagger]

screw the wheel

[spiral ridge]

Don’t do that it’ll come off its axis then

And I’m fine with it because I still need to DA lunalazygarde :(

[south shuttle]

is that a new set?

[molten oasis]

Yea

[south shuttle]

after the temporal wrath

[molten oasis]

Yes

[timber falcon]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2127621248-m8fqmchighsyc20b74a6y6qk815gv3lpw i like ti

might have to bring the the team to proper testing

[south shuttle]

PLEASE POKEMON DONT MESS UP LEGENDS Z-A

WE NEED THE ZYGARDE FIGHT TO BE AS GOOD AS THE GIRATINA ONE 😭

[chrome knot]

this is competitive discussion

[molten oasis]

This chat de-rails a lot

[mighty stump]

A bit too much sometimes.

[molten oasis]

Might as well be general chat #2 until comp help is needed

[cunning copper]

4 wins in a row by KOing everyone with miraidon in 2 turns

with Discharge

[molten oasis]

Why are you upset about that, shouldn’t that be a good thing?

[cunning copper]

I use that emoji for happiness too

[autumn vault]

Nice switch case you have

[mighty stump]

It's cards

[autumn vault]

Ah right

Didn't notice the price tag

[timber falcon]

i envy

[autumn vault]

I don't care abour Cards

[timber falcon]

i just think theyre cool

and i used to play the online version

btw its probably worth making groudon faster than pelli right

seeing that i have rockslide

[molten oasis]

I think they’re cool

And plus I have a fat collection

Ig it wouldn’t take that much to out speed peli

[timber falcon]

i decided agaisnt it, i lose attack i think i need of i do that

[molten oasis]

@mighty stump curious about smth, do you think pult having an offensive Tera would be better than a defensive Tera? I’ve been iffy on it

Like ghost probably

or another Tera stellar

[timber falcon]

no dont do ghost, sucker punch remember, ur not sashed iicr

[molten oasis]

Pults ran Tera ghost in reg d and it was fine

And e I believe

And the sucker punches I worry about are from single strike

And pao

[timber falcon]

oh yeah and scarf chi-yu with dpulse/snarl

[molten oasis]

Yea which uh, my fairy handles all of those fine

[timber falcon]

whats the full team again?

[molten oasis]

I have peli for chi yu

Amoonguss incin Pao peli pult Zac

[timber falcon]

Ok so with good positioning sucker punch isn’t a problem

[molten oasis]

Yuh

Then I get to click darts freely

[timber falcon]

And Pelli has astral barrage on watch

• lance

[molten oasis]

Yep

[timber falcon]

I think offensive Tera can work then, just gotta know win cons

[molten oasis]

Mostly a thought and I’d have to go test it out

My sets for Zacian Incin and Chien Pao aren’t changing

[solid frigate]

TORTOL

[mighty stump]

On who

[molten oasis]

Dragapult

It’s fairy rn

[mighty stump]

Tera-Dragon would give you the same way of avoiding Sucker Punch since it's almost always a 2HKO anyways, you just can't play into Flutter Mane anymore.

Tera-Ghost would just want Tera Blast

[molten oasis]

Pults got Tera blast rn

[mighty stump]

Decide which one you're more comfortable with.

[molten oasis]

Mk

[mighty stump]

I wouldn't go Stellar since you don't have Flexibility

[molten oasis]

Unlike Zac

[solid frigate]

either you want Consistent STAB on Ghost Types or Avoid Sucker

[molten oasis]

Who has a, much better typing

I wonder the calcs on Tera dragon darts

I’ll look at both, thx y’all

[solid frigate]

i feel like Ghost is a Better Choice cuz outside of Phantom Force,Dragapult does not have a Consistent Ghost Type STAB

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna run like, 10-15 games with both and see what feels better

[solid frigate]

ok

[molten oasis]

252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera-Dragon Dragapult Dragon Darts (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Kyogre: 236-280 (114 - 135.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO damn

Oh interesting

-1 252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 92-110 (46 - 55%) -- 62.5% chance to 2HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera-Dragon Dragapult Dragon Darts vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 114-136 (57 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Assuming they’re not super physically tanky that can kill incin early

[charred cloud]

Can/has dudunsparce be used in competitive teams?

[autumn vault]

Nope, don't think so

[molten oasis]

It can be used, however it’s not very good

[charred cloud]

Ok cool

[autumn vault]

I don't think its bad because it was really good in my playthrough because iirc it gets wide guard and breaks through protect with Hyper Drill

Nope it doesn't get wide guard

[next stump]

@molten oasis could be some zacian inspiration

this is a pretty good local region so winning an MSS is hard

[molten oasis]

Oh, pao Zac

My team is 5/6 of those lol

I have pult over hands

Found it ti be pretty good in testing

[autumn vault]

Well, looks like you are on the right path

[molten oasis]

Personally

Thank you tho I appreciate it

I’m curious on the sets

I wonder if it’s 3 attack or sub/SD

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar

Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Base Species

Terapagos

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[autumn vault]

Ngl after my exams this week and the next i would like to participate in a Limitless tournament

Just want to participate in a tournament thats not from the PS! chatrooms

And no i won't use Zekrom, i would like to use Koraidon

[solid frigate]

so we can count Zacian Won an Event?

[next stump]

different tier of event

winning an MSS is probably difficulty equivalent of making day 2 of a regional

maybe even easier than that tbh

[molten oasis]

I’ll take it

Zacian winning something is hype

[autumn vault]

Anything winning is hype, some more than others

[solid frigate]

seeing Zacian won one its hype,I'm glad the former king wins one

[molten oasis]

Now I want to see it take a regional (unlikely)

[solid frigate]

true....

wait should Zacian Be Queen due to She is refer as Zamazenta's Sister in the Pokedex Entry?

[molten oasis]

Imo, yes

[solid frigate]

yeah i guess that works out

[south shuttle]

hey guys

[molten oasis]

Buy 2 get 2 free, which means I’m buying 4 bags of the same kind of chip lol

[south shuttle]

is getting top 420 in nat dex ubers good?

[solid frigate]

lel

[chrome knot]

depends whos around

some of my mss days were like demon schedule

[molten oasis]

Why is that

[bold geode]

Pengy using Groudon?

[chrome knot]

bc if lot of good 6-3, day2/cut players show up you have higher% to play them obv than at a regional

[molten oasis]

Ah I see

That would be cool tho, to play the good players and see how you do

[chrome knot]

day 1 of mss run i played the hotdog guy lmao

[molten oasis]

if I had any to fucking go to

[chrome knot]

no locals in ur area?

[molten oasis]

Did you beat him?

[chrome knot]

yeah

[molten oasis]

I live in Utah so, no

I’ve looked everything is VERY far away

[chrome knot]

ahhh

[molten oasis]

So my competing is limited to limitless tours

And the once in a blue moon when I can travel

[charred saddle]

literally after u posted this

[bold geode]

If I could go to shit, I'd be set

[molten oasis]

And for some reason I picked going to NAIC as my first Regional

[bold geode]

Texas got a decent amount of locals at least iirc

[molten oasis]

Also pog you beat the hotdog guy

[chrome knot]

naic is an insane experience

even like outside of competing

[bold geode]

Alas though, life is a bitch so
Online tours don't fail me now

[molten oasis]

I’m hoping it’s fun

[mighty stump]

I'm just gonna have fun in the Spear Pillar Region Rumble

[next stump]

drago did you get a pokémon center reservation?

[molten oasis]

as in I don’t uh, live in a shell

Yes I got 2 actually

My friend got one and I got one, so we can check things out twice

[next stump]

Awesome, you’ll really enjoy that

[molten oasis]

You better win

[chrome knot]

one of my friends is getting me the naic backpack i so excitedddd

[molten oasis]

I’m praying there’s some zacian stuff (doubt)

[next stump]

give yourself some extra carry-on storage hahaha

[mighty stump]

APAC region winning would be fun

Btw

Ya'll

[next stump]

there will 100% be a zacian plush

[mighty stump]

You know what i'm excited for

Uniqlo is releasing a Snorlax T-Shirt

[molten oasis]

That’s hype

You gotta buy one

[bold geode]

It's actually gonna be the opposite this time lmao
Everyone bought Zacian plushies, now everyone buying Zamazenta plushies lmao

[molten oasis]

Good

[mighty stump]

Its within my colour palette too

[molten oasis]

Yea cuz zama is so strong

[bold geode]

Hey
More Zacian plush for you

[molten oasis]

And zacian is not as strong

but it’s not bad, hehehe…

cough anyway I’m looking forward to it

It’ll be fun

[south shuttle]

nat dex ubers really changes that

😭

[dapper crag]

Move: Electro Drift

Damage is multiplied by 1.3333 if this move is super effective against the target.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[charred saddle]

E drift is a contact move

[solid frigate]

kek

[autumn vault]

I can see Rocky Helmet being a good item

[solid frigate]

amoonguss moment

[mighty stump]

Draining Kiss too

[charred saddle]

ik about draining kiss, but that

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2127702809-n49hlme9si4mceonugyxrx9omac954vpw

Rayquaza moment(Did not even use it

[sullen hare]

is Tera ground or Tera normal better for Zacian?

[charred saddle]

i dont think theres any good reason to go to normal no?

unless for some reason ur running quick attack

dont think u kinda want zacian to sit in front of CSR anyway

[molten oasis]

tera stellar trust

[charred saddle]

personally what i did with zacian is CA zacian
tera ground blast

[sullen hare]

I need a defensive tera

[charred saddle]

no intim and parting shot pressure is nice

wdym with definitive tera?

[sullen hare]

I’m running ground asw except no Tera blast though

[sullen hare]

my bad

meant defensive Tera

[charred saddle]

didnt play a lot with zacian

[next stump]

how is ground a defensive tera for zacian?

[mighty stump]

Probably concerned about MIraidon, but you outspeed MIraidon and threaten.

[sullen hare]

this exact reason

[mighty stump]

Like I told @molten oasis , just run Tera-Stellar Tera Blast and its far more useful to be able to pressure Miraidon even through Tera.

[sullen hare]

yeah but I don’t run tailwind on my team so far so that’s why

[molten oasis]

tera stellar goated

[mighty stump]

Don't need Tailwind

[sullen hare]

what do I do when they’re miraidon outspeeds?

[mighty stump]

Run redirection lol. Amoonguss is an easy partner

[charred saddle]

rilla to set grass terrain to offset a bit of miraidon damage is also a thing

[sullen hare]

I’m running rock Oger

[mighty stump]

So there is no problem

You focus your priorities on getting rid of the Whimsicott and then stall out Tailwind

Afterwards you just control the game from there

[sullen hare]

okay so instead of miraidon target whim?

[molten oasis]

whem whims is gone you can win pretty easily

[sullen hare]

okay thanks

[mighty stump]

You're welcome to send the team here for feedback.

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2127707290
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2127709560
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2127711921

Rayquaza BO3

[dull ibex]

hello

[mighty stump]

BRO WITH THAT TERA PROTECT TECH

[molten oasis]

lol

[charred saddle]

[mighty stump]

G1 you split your damage and if you were going to go for a protect, you absolutely did not need to tera

@sullen hare Send a paste, there is a tutorial in the pins.

[sullen hare]

okay

[solid frigate]

idk wtf am i doing

[mighty stump]

G2 Swords Dance was extremely greedy lol. If you know Rayquaza was in the back, Flutter Mane was a bigger threat, you should have been targeting it with Sacred Fire imo

[solid frigate]

i see

[mighty stump]

DAscent also would have been probably enough to KO Flutter Mane immediately

E-Speed also unnecessary on Chi-Yu since it wasn't threatening either Mon

[solid frigate]

its a Support Flutter so yeah lemme check

[mighty stump]

G2 was a mess

[solid frigate]

252 Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 124 HP / 140 Def Flutter Mane: 191-226 (130.8 - 154.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Yep

[solid frigate]

don't have that much experience on the team cuz thats my second B03 on Rayquaza

[mighty stump]

Well

Conceptually some of these things im pointing out are general gameplay regardless of team

[sullen hare]

I’ll send this for now cause I don’t have the ev spreads saved up rn

[solid frigate]

fair point

[solid frigate]

hooo boi Drago is gonna see this

[mighty stump]

Honestly if you were brave enough to switch Rayquaza in front of Flutter Mane I would have just switched it in immediately and Tera-Water Ogerpon to just KO Flutter Mane

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[sullen hare]

wdym?

[molten oasis]

why do you have armarouge?