Like I'm not gonna continuously argue or try when all you wanna do is just say "nope"
#competitive_discussion
bold geode
autumn vault
Like I'm not gonna continuously argue or try when all you wanna do is just say "...
I honestly have given up trying to help 1UK3
pearl wind
i mean modest caly gets outsped by jolly korai 
solid frigate
you need to make it max max min
graceful flare
Ig
solid frigate
I honestly have given up trying to help 1UK3
he is just too paranoid
on like Wide guard and Trick Room
autumn vault
he is just too paranoid
wow, you have a very good reaction to it unlike me
graceful flare
Yes but then I cant invest in bulk
solid frigate
wow, you have a very good reaction to it unlike me
Because i did give him advice Yesterday
autumn vault
Because i did give him advice Yesterday
Ngl i just want to tell him "listen to us for once in your life", probably in caps
solid frigate
Yes but then I cant invest in bulk
Caly Shadow is A Hyper Offensive Mon,meaning you need to be as fast as you can
pearl wind
Yes but then I cant invest in bulk
then dont expect to outspeed 135 base mons if you invest in bulk
bold geode
on like Wide guard and Trick Room
Wouldn't be if he wasn't set on Indeedee Caly S EForce
graceful flare
What if I run hoice scarf caly
bold geode
But I'm not gonna go on about it cuz like
I got better things to do with my time lol
solid frigate
Wouldn't be if he wasn't set on Indeedee Caly S EForce
Heck i am using Dawn Wings Indeedee Eforce and i am not worried about it
solid frigate
What if I run hoice scarf caly
Sash is better
graceful flare
Yes but then what will my rapid urshifu do to survive a hit
solid frigate
Yes but then what will my rapid urshifu do to survive a hit
in like what occasion? using Mystic Water?
graceful flare
He dies when something talks to loud
autumn vault
But I'm not gonna go on about it cuz like
I got better things to do with my time...
Same, i rather give advice to those who actually listen than 1UK3
bold geode
Also I hope I don't get in trouble for this
solid frigate
Also I hope I don't get in trouble for this
i feel like you won't cuz i remember he said Terapagos is Mid and i am LIVID
graceful flare
in like what occasion? using Mystic Water?
I mean like I run focus sash on urshifu
autumn vault
i feel like you won't cuz i remember he said Terapagos is Mid and i am LIVID
I want to throw a goofy ahh metal pipe at him ngl
solid frigate
I mean like I run focus sash on urshifu
Sash on urshifu isn't bad but since its a Hyper Offensive Team,i recommend Scarf Shifu and Sash Caly S
autumn vault
You know, the metal pipe from the memes
bold geode
Friend of mine who does VGC content made a video showing off an updated version of my Zamazenta team
solid frigate
You know, the metal pipe from the memes
willow vault
Nice
graceful flare
Sash on urshifu isn't bad but since its a Hyper Offensive Team,i recommend Scarf...
You don't know my team tho
solid frigate
You don't know my team tho
can you show it then?
charred saddle
then send the whole team?
graceful flare
I have no idea what type of team it is tho
I'll put it as a rental and tell u the code
autumn vault
I'll put it as a rental and tell u the code
Or send as a Pokepaste
charred saddle
just do pokepaste.
solid frigate
most Calyrex Shadow Rider Teams are Hyper Offense(No shit Sherlock)
bold geode
charred saddle
solid frigate
autumn vault
charred saddle
how are we supposed to help if we didnt even see the EVs
solid frigate
you can put the team in Showdown
charred saddle
EV spread matters.
graceful flare
The code of my team is G3C6JG
solid frigate
EV spread matters.
one of the more important mechanic for competitve pokemon
charred saddle
right. thanks that doesnt solve anything
graceful flare
Idk my own ev spreads
charred saddle
ok gl
autumn vault
Pray that they are good evs
charred saddle
cant even help if u dont know what u dont know
autumn vault
because for a newbie i doubt it
graceful flare
If it looks like it has enough evs I stop and start training a different one
bold geode
charred saddle
because for a newbie i doubt it
thats not even the problem.
solid frigate
is it just me,Or do i see a Pattern that Most People Use Caly S Teams in the Server are mostly people with minimal competitiive Knowledge(I'm not doubting them)
graceful flare
Make sure to use my teams to get some crazy dubs
charred saddle
aight im out of this shitshow
bold geode
Also @sharp trail plz edit your rental post to update your paste, as it's incomplete
solid frigate
i have to do some dish Washing,so later
bold geode
aight im out of this shitshow
GET BACK HERE MOTHERFUCKER
solid frigate
bold geode
All y'all trapped here with me
charred saddle
GET BACK HERE MOTHERFUCKER
isnt his rental post team complete? i dont see anything weird
graceful flare
What is poke paste
bold geode
@stark kindle trap Leo in here with me
charred saddle
btw monke, that team is basically ur team 
just different spread i think (havent compared them)
bold geode
isnt his rental post team complete? i dont see anything weird
Click the paste
Also yes
Then again my team is basic as shit so
charred saddle
Click the paste
Also yes
Then again my team is basic as shit so
ah.
bold geode
Lmao
stark kindle
charred saddle
What is poke paste
https://pokepast.es/1c7b80f35246ae10
site to help you see the whole team. spread. items and IVs.
solid frigate
wait a darn Minute,that rental is just Monke's But Switching Jugilus into Pelipper
charred saddle
make the team in showdown. then import it to pokepaste.
well not that u can even copy paste ur team to showdown since u dont even know the EV spread.
charred saddle
i hate greens 
solid frigate
i hate greens <:bruh:1161176614944649236>
do you want your Burger to have no Pickles or Lettuce?
graceful flare
Can you show me the spread forbmy team the code is G3C6JG idk how to use poke paste
charred saddle
im not gonna fucking reverse engineer ur whole ass spread
solid frigate
Can you show me the spread forbmy team the code is G3C6JG idk how to use poke pa...
we don't even know what EVs are there how the fuck do we even know
graceful flare
Or can someone tell me how to use it
charred saddle
new team --> change format to reg G --> add pokemon
autumn vault
is it just me,Or do i see a Pattern that Most People Use Caly S Teams in the Ser...
True, we have 1UK3 A.K.A. advice ignorer and I'm I'm I'm
charred saddle
then u just do the calcs for ur own spread
graceful flare
Oh my goodness that's pokemon showdown
solid frigate
Put the Pokemon in the Teambuilder, do everything on it,Including the EVs,Abilities,Tera Type and Moves, 2nd link is the open pokepaste
charred saddle
bro.
graceful flare
I'm allergic to that
autumn vault
I'm allergic to that
Why?
charred saddle
THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT
autumn vault
It's one of the best websites for competitive pokemon
solid frigate
graceful flare
Pokemon showdown development are trying to steal the moon they are evil you need to play sv it's much better
charred saddle
i dont fucking care if u hate it or something something ass shit.
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-bruh-bruh-meme-sonic-meme-gif-12...
Me,Leo and Lyco's Reaction:
charred saddle
if u want us to help you. do us a fucking favour
autumn vault
Pokemon showdown development are trying to steal the moon they are evil you need...
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
charred saddle
SEND UR TEAM PASTE OR TEAM SPREADS
solid frigate
sharp trail
Also <@653447642117963776> plz edit your rental post to update your paste, as it...
How do I save a pokepaste?
solid frigate
he is a fucking Lost Cause
autumn vault
Me,Leo and Lyco's Reaction:
I can confirm this
graceful flare
Um the thing is idk how to use poke paste
autumn vault
he is a fucking Lost Cause
And 1UK3
foggy lodge
Pokemon showdown development are trying to steal the moon they are evil you need...
You are really yapping with this one
sharp trail
I had one but now it is gone
solid frigate
Um the thing is idk how to use poke paste
ITS A FUCKING BUTTON
foggy lodge
or y'know just
solid frigate
I had one but now it is gone
try to rebuild the team then?
foggy lodge
Recreate it
autumn vault
The button says "Upload to Pokepaste", ITS RIGHT THERE
graceful flare
Does it work for sv tho
bold geode
How do I save a pokepaste?
Do you have the team/spreads and everything on Showdown?
sharp trail
Oh you use showdown
autumn vault
Does it work for sv tho
Nope
solid frigate
Does it work for sv tho
why are you being so idiotic On it
graceful flare
Ohh that's why
sharp trail
I went to pokepaste directly
graceful flare
Sv is amazing showdown is evil
solid frigate
Showdown is not correlate to SV
autumn vault
I went to pokepaste directly
Also the pokepaste in your rental does not show your team
bold geode
#competitive_discussion message
Here's instructions
gentle cragBOT
woodtofu (ID 250386799363489808)
graceful flare
Do I dm u a pic of it?
charred saddle
....
bold geode
Also the pokepaste in your rental does not show your team
That's why he's here lol
bold geode
Sv is amazing showdown is evil
No
That's what people use to build teams and test before putting on cart to save resources
sharp trail
Thanks
solid frigate
....
ya know what Leo,I might ignore him to keep my sanity alive (Not that if i have that much
sharp trail
Will work on that when I get the time
solid frigate
See? R4M1 actually knows his stuff
autumn vault
See? R4M1 actually knows his stuff
Unlike 2 others
willow vault
Hello
graceful flare
Ok all this stuff is getting confusing I'm going off
solid frigate
No problem
Also appreciate the Zamazenta love
I kinda like his modification from Juglius to Pelipper
solid frigate
Ok all this stuff is getting confusing I'm going off
its not even that confusing
autumn vault
Sv is amazing showdown is evil
No its the opposite
solid frigate
Heck Leo probably has the best Explanation
autumn vault
SV is evil and Showdown is Amazing
foggy lodge
SV is evil and Showdown is Amazing
charred saddle
Ok all this stuff is getting confusing I'm going off
ur the one making it complicated.
solid frigate
SV is evil and Showdown is Amazing
Lets just say both are evil but yeah i do agree
bold geode
I kinda like his modification from Juglius to Pelipper
Honestly Jugulis is the adjustment lmao
solid frigate
Honestly Jugulis is the adjustment lmao
Lmao
charred saddle
and tbf, saying this is evil this is good this is shit is subjective. no one fucking cares
bold geode
Hell I went back to Pelipper for updated version in that video I showed
autumn vault
ya know what Leo,I might ignore him to keep my sanity alive (Not that if i have ...
Same, i lost a lot from waking up at 7:00 and 1UK3
bold geode
Anyways so
autumn vault
So i will preserve the bit of sanity i have left
charred saddle
you dont like it? good for you, no one cares.
but u want advice. do us a favour and send the paste.
how can we help if we dont even know the complete spread
like blind advice?
bold geode
long narwhal
My team rn is dnite chien pao miraidon ting lu and gholdengo what shouls be my last mon ( cant use scarlet pokemon )
charred saddle
another racist commentary by monke. nothing weird
bold geode
another racist commentary by monke. nothing weird
You're racist for not acknowledging China No 3
autumn vault
another racist commentary by monke. nothing weird
Its Monke, what did you expect?
charred saddle
You're racist for not acknowledging China No 3
autumn vault
Plus China has a shit president
solid frigate
another racist commentary by monke. nothing weird
lmao
polar canyon
Tbh when you put up a poll asking for yes or no to do something, people who don't care, instead of saying no, will just ignore it
viral tendon
Is there any tourdaments happing and if not where do i find to do some
polar canyon
You usually should expect a yes
solid frigate
Plus China has a shit president
General Sectary
And yes i couldn't agree more
I literally got Migrated because HK is shit now
autumn vault
And yes i couldn't agree more
Good to know from an actual Chinese person
I am just a Spanish person and Pedro Sanchez hater
solid frigate
Good to know from an actual Chinese person
Tofu is also Chinese but i think he is a Overseas Chinese so yeah i think most of Chinese stuff just ask me or Tofu
long narwhal
My team rn is dnite chien pao miraidon ting lu and gholdengo what shouls be my last mon ( cant use scarlet pokemon )
autumn vault
My team rn is dnite chien pao miraidon ting lu and gholdengo what shouls be my l...
Not sure tbh
viral tendon
Like in person or online?
Online where can i find some
polar canyon
Doesn't feel like miraidon fits
foggy lodge
My team rn is dnite chien pao miraidon ting lu and gholdengo what shouls be my l...
Pokepaste
autumn vault
The team needs to have better members
polar canyon
Online where can i find some
Not here
autumn vault
Miraidon RN does best with Farigiraf + Ursaluna-Blood Moon
foggy lodge
Online where can i find some
Limitless tournaments?
autumn vault
Can u tell me where or point me in direction
Limitless
viral tendon
Limitless tournaments?
Where
foggy lodge
It's a website
bold geode
Is there any tourdaments happing and if not where do i find to do some
There is a website called Limitless
Think it's play.limitless
Lot of community operated tournaments there if you can do em
polar canyon
Miraidon RN does best with Farigiraf + Ursaluna-Blood Moon
That sounds so odd but it's true
foggy lodge
I've never used it but yeah i think you can find some there
viral tendon
There is a website called Limitless
Think it's play.limitless
Lot of community o...
Thx
polar canyon
Fast flying motorbike dragon in the trick room team
bold geode
Yup
autumn vault
That sounds so odd but it's true
Blocking Spore in TR is a blessing to have
polar canyon
It sounds like something that shouldn't work but does
autumn vault
Plus it does amazing in TailRoom
Room with Farig Luna and smth
Tailwind with Miraidon Tailwind setter smth
The tailwind setter can be torn whim or jugulis
polar canyon
Whim sounds best for the role
foggy lodge
i like Jugulis
autumn vault
Whim sounds best for the role
True but you can make cases for torn jugulis and Pelipper
foggy lodge
Focus sash or something like that
autumn vault
Or Cloak
foggy lodge
So you don't instantly die against Flutter Mane lead
autumn vault
I use Cloak Pelipper
polar canyon
You know what I haven't in years on whimsicott
autumn vault
Feels nice to block Fake out and snarl
long narwhal
polar canyon
Fling light ball
autumn vault
https://pokepast.es/25a48acd88537eb6
WTF are those natures?
long narwhal
Ignore natures
polar canyon
That sure looks like a team
foggy lodge
uhhh
long narwhal
I forgot mb
foggy lodge
We have to change many things on that team
autumn vault
Chien Pao should never run swords dance
long narwhal
Guys help me
solid frigate
3 attacks and protect thats all
foggy lodge
Uhhh
long narwhal
Is BSS btw singles not 2v2
foggy lodge
Is BSS btw singles not 2v2
i'm not an expert in singles, i don't know shit about it but why U-turn Miraidon?
autumn vault
DNite doesn't fit at all
polar canyon
Is stealth rock good in 3v3?
foggy lodge
Nah
autumn vault
Is stealth rock good in 3v3?
Idk
long narwhal
i'm not an expert in singles, i don't know shit about it but why U-turn Miraidon...
Idk ppl said its better on another server
autumn vault
Its 3v3 so probably no
foggy lodge
That server is shit
polar canyon
Idk ppl said its better on another server
Probably for the ground immunity
long narwhal
DNite doesn't fit at all
So drgapult instead?
autumn vault
So drgapult instead?
No
long narwhal
Then what
polar canyon
You have 2 leftovers
autumn vault
We basically have to start from scratch on your team
long narwhal
Bc i wouls use great tusk and flutetr but i cant bc i on violet and i dont have nintendo online
polar canyon
Bc i wouls use great tusk and flutetr but i cant bc i on violet and i dont have ...
Then why are you making a bss team
bold geode
Then you can't even do
autumn vault
Bc i wouls use great tusk and flutetr but i cant bc i on violet and i dont have ...
Great Tusk is bad anyways
polar canyon
You won't be able to use it
polar canyon
Great Tusk is bad anyways
It's for singles
autumn vault
It's for singles
Yeah, still bad in singles
polar canyon
To use on showdown for fun
Then why care if you can get it in violet
polar canyon
Yeah, still bad in singles
Hasn't it like never dropped from ou
autumn vault
It's for singles
Not OU
long narwhal
Bc i plan on buying nintendo online
autumn vault
Hasn't it like never dropped from ou
I am referring to BSS
polar canyon
Bc i plan on buying nintendo online
Then you'll be able to trade
charred saddle
you can move ur mons from scarlet to violet with home.
autumn vault
OU is Great Tusk's home turf
charred saddle
doesnt even need NSO
polar canyon
You played bss?
polar canyon
you can move ur mons from scarlet to violet with home.
You do need 2 games for that tho
long narwhal
Ik but help me make a team in general
autumn vault
You played bss?
Me? A tiny bit in reg A and B
long narwhal
With miraidon
polar canyon
Me? A tiny bit in reg A and B
Bruh then what do you know about great tusk in reg g
autumn vault
Bruh then what do you know about great tusk in reg g
Let me go check the usage rates in BSS
polar canyon
Well valiant is supposed to be pretty good for singles and you do have the terrain
Wasn't hypnosis valiant one of the reasons ou banned sleep
autumn vault
Great tusk has a 1.26% usage in BSS reg G
autumn vault
Wasn't hypnosis valiant one of the reasons ou banned sleep
That and Darkrai and Deoxys-S
long narwhal
What does reg a b c d and other mean?
polar canyon
Seasons
polar canyon
Regulations
charred saddle
jokes aside, regulations. as it name implies it has different set of rules
long narwhal
What season are we on?
solid frigate
True, we have 1UK3 A.K.A. advice ignorer and I'm I'm I'm
while we at it, Add corny as well, bro had to brag about araquanid everytime
polar canyon
G
charred saddle
its not season tho.... season doesnt imply different sets of rule
autumn vault
while we at it, Add corny as well, bro had to brag about araquanid everytime
He does have a skill issue thats for sure
solid frigate
He does have a skill issue thats for sure
do you see me brag about Greninja everytime?
ya know, my favourite Pokemon?
autumn vault
do you see me brag about Greninja everytime?
No
long narwhal
And what abt the team should i restart? Now with scarlet mons as well ?
solid frigate
I never do
you kinda do on Zekrom but at least you know how to use
autumn vault
you kinda do on Zekrom but at least you know how to use
TBH i was just saying it wasn't that trash
Or maybe a little more i barely remember
solid frigate
also Corny Copied 4/6 Wolfey's Smeragle team and also still using Bundle Mirai
solid frigate
Or maybe a little more i barely remember
yep
solid frigate
But i never bragged about Excadrill, my no. 1 Favourite pokemon
yeah so you at least have some tendency on it
harsh depot
Heya Torrent! You busy at the moment?
solid frigate
I'm fine rn,not busy
harsh depot
I was thinking some more VGC in VC if you were available
graceful flare
Can I use inteleon bc ut one of my faves
charred saddle
u can. but its shit.
autumn vault
graceful flare
Is it viable
autumn vault
Is it viable
Yes
charred saddle
no.
graceful flare
What the stats
charred saddle
???
autumn vault
What the stats
I want to keep it a secret to i can't reveal anything
But one hint: It's not Zekrom
graceful flare
Hol up it is good
The stats are acc pretty good
We just need to see the moveset
autumn vault
The stats are acc pretty good
What are you talking about? Just curious
autumn vault
·
graceful flare
Inteleon
charred saddle
and another dumb crap
graceful flare
It's a glass Canon thl
charred saddle
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-dies-of-cringe-cringe-dust-gif-21399701
look at the mirror.
graceful flare
Bro I swear I always be lokong the pokemon that everyone else hates
autumn vault
look at the mirror.
wdym?
graceful flare
If I put a choice specs on it I can easily chef up all the opps on the opp block
autumn vault
If I put a choice specs on it I can easily chef up all the opps on the opp block
Then you would die immediately
graceful flare
Ok ok ok yall are rigjt
autumn vault
Still want more opinions
graceful flare
You can't win with your favourites
autumn vault
You can't win with your favourites
You can, we are just addresing the problems
And if you want the most viable team then it can be really hard to fit your (bad) favourites
Most of them have merit
Inteleon has merit
It's just that there are many better options
autumn vault
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little plank
Starting to second guess my naic team. Zamazenta is becoming a rather annoying problem.
bold geode
Starting to second guess my naic team. Zamazenta is becoming a rather annoying p...
What got
timber falcon
You can't win with your favourites
Just wrong
also anyone know a set for banded harc?
south shuttle
also anyone know a set for banded harc?
what mon is harc?
timber falcon
hisuian arcanie
south shuttle
cause band does more
im guessing max speed then
and 252 attack
i dont see anything else
bold geode
also anyone know a set for banded harc?
68/252/4/0/4/180
Adamant
timber falcon
ty
solid frigate
i fought someone with Solar Beam Helping Hand Caly S team with Red Card Bundle
graceful flare
Weakness policy caly shafow
south shuttle
i just fought someone with wind rider shiftree tailwind explosion
what just happened
solid frigate
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
i just fought someone with wind rider shiftree tailwind explosion
mhm
that’s a thing though it hasn’t been explored enough of imo
willow vault
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125162922
Urshifu just murder
rustic mountain
not many ppl here play singles
prolly would have better luck in the smogon server
keen osprey
Just got a Bloodmoon Urasluna with a 0IV in Speed and 0IV in Sp. Attack. 🥲👍
solid frigate
just Hyper train SpA
keen osprey
Already reset it. I want a 0iv in attack and speed
tidal blade
https://pokepast.es/744609c1fd448541
how are we feeling this team? I found it from James Baek’s newest video and it looks interesting with some off-meta picks, how would it fair against the current meta?
rustic mountain
hooh is weird. team seems cool but idk how consistent it is. if its the team that got top 8 at one of the special events they mustve really known it inside/out
polar nest
ok so i think i wanna build a team- with some help and i wanted to build around one of these four
Dialga Origin
Samurott-H
Greninja
Ceruledge
which should i do?
solid frigate
except for Dialga,all of them should be booted
polar nest
no i wanna build a team around one of them so i guess the answer is diagla?
solid frigate
but then again,with Dialga tho
rustic mountain
they said 1 of them not all
polar nest
i do kinda want to build a ceruledge team bcuz its my fav gen 9 pokemon
not gonna just copy this one
rustic mountain
if the teams strong ceruledge can slot in. id recommend just picking up that team otherwise u have to find equivalents to have it achieve similar success matchup wise
other then that u can try dialga, the others are hot garbage
solid frigate
Yep as a Greninja fan i can confirm.
polar nest
i do kinda want to diferentiate bcuz doing the same thing as some1 else is very boring
solid frigate
its just not it
polar nest
Yep as a Greninja fan i can confirm.
sad he fell ):
rustic mountain
yea thats up to u, i personally dont mind just taking teams that are proven
polar nest
i do kinda want to diferentiate bcuz doing the same thing as some1 else is very ...
also why i always use at least one uu
rustic mountain
id say u jus have to understand why it fits on that team tho or that sentiment so u can translate it effectively into ur own teambuilding
another reason taking and playing other ppls teams is helpful
polar nest
ok well how i usually do this i make a draft and better it with constructive critisicm
long narwhal
Waittt bss are only 3 mons va other 3??
rustic mountain
yea
polar nest
might grab that set for ceru tho
long narwhal
My life is a lie
rustic mountain
most serious singles players jus play sd
long narwhal
I though iy was 6v6
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
long narwhal
Whats the 6v6 one the name
rustic mountain
ok well how i usually do this i make a draft and better it with constructive cri...
id just hit the ladder w/ a rough draft and see how it goes. theorycrafting is cool but it only gets u so far initially u have to actually see wat does and doesnt work
especially w/ weird mons like dialga and ceruledge
long narwhal
https://pokepast.es/01fc3cea67a12bd3 is urshifu > great tusk in this case? 6v6 gen 9 ubers
solid frigate
rustic mountain
no
willow vault
It will become soup
cyan smelt
tortol
rustic mountain
willow vault
cyan smelt
solar beam calyrex wut
solid frigate
solar beam calyrex wut
yeah i fought one
and somehow won against it with Terapagos Hard Carry it
with Helping Hand BTW
cyan smelt
is that supposed to answer urshifu or something
solid frigate
and i fought someone spamming Boxart legendary of the Bikes,Kyurem Black that named as Ohiotown(God damn you Gen Alpha) and Caly Ice
solid frigate
is that supposed to answer urshifu or something
idfk
polar nest
id just hit the ladder w/ a rough draft and see how it goes. theorycrafting is c...
ok well i will do but here is my draft https://pokepast.es/a0908a1e309b6eaa
similar team, i took inspiration but different
solid frigate
and i fought someone spamming Boxart legendary of the Bikes,Kyurem Black that na...
that i won somehow
polar nest
built diff frfr
rustic mountain
ok well i will do but here is my draft https://pokepast.es/a0908a1e309b6eaa
i hate lava plume, wow is troll for chi yu imo just go for damage(protect/heat wave/dark pulse and snarl or overheat) also id recommend fake out on rilla, idt knock off is gna give u the value u think it is
nd i get the lava plume synergy w/ ceruledge i just dont like it
polar nest
ok
polar nest
i hate lava plume, wow is troll for chi yu imo just go for damage(protect/heat w...
i forgot abt fo
rustic mountain
solid frigate
forest arrow
bold geode
solid frigate
damn
forest arrow
yeahh, it is what it is
molten oasis
4-2’d my first ever tourney today
That’s awesome
ancient crow
have anyone been experimenting with SPA rayquaza?
solid frigate
have anyone been experimenting with SPA rayquaza?
i saw that one replay and i was like wtf
Meteor Beam Rayquaza?
forest arrow
That’s awesome
Thank you Drago, I was really nervous
gentle cragBOT
Thank you Drago, I was really nervous
throwdatahh has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
molten oasis
Thank you Drago, I was really nervous
Makes sense, it’s your first time
You did well tho so that’s hype
forest arrow
My losses were to me being stupid
solid frigate
also
full team of Box Art legendaries are not scary lol
forest arrow
But can’t complain had a good run
molten oasis
My losses were to me being stupid
It happens
forest arrow
Yeah I didn’t read team sheets on R3 and just expected whims to be the normal TW/Encore/protect but if I just read the TS I woulda seen it had sunny day lol
solid frigate
lol
forest arrow
R4 I forgot about air Locke cause the rain stays up so I forgot it takes it away
solid frigate
huh
molten oasis
Damn
forest arrow
Yeah air Locke nullifies weather
But the weather stays on the field just not “active”
molten oasis
Disabled ig
solid frigate
also i fought someone who uses 4 Box Art, guess which 4?
molten oasis
Korai Mirai kyogre groudon?
solid frigate
you got 2 right
molten oasis
Which 2
solid frigate
Koraidon and Miraidon
forest arrow
Both horses
solid frigate
Both horses
one of them
forest arrow
With the dons
molten oasis
Mirai korai CSR and terapagos
solid frigate
Mirai korai CSR and terapagos
Nope i actually murdered them with Terapagos and its not CSR or Terapagos
molten oasis
Mirai korai ice rider zama
solid frigate
Mirai korai ice rider zama
not Zama
forest arrow
Imma join the wide league tourney tomorrow I had fun today it’ll be good to get more practice in
molten oasis
Mirai korai ice rider zac
solid frigate
Not Zacian
molten oasis
WHAT GEN
solid frigate
Gen 5
molten oasis
kyurem white
solid frigate
its Kyurem Black.
molten oasis
Oh hell nah
solid frigate
i hate Gen Alphas
rustic mountain
have anyone been experimenting with SPA rayquaza?
i havent seen any
theyve all been physical
solid frigate
Oh hell nah
and their Miraidon keep spammin Draco Meteor on my cresselia and i took down Koraidon with Ease
molten oasis
What format did you play in?
solid frigate
What format did you play in?
its Casual Battles cuz i want to refresh My Memory on my Terapagos Team
before i do anything on Ranked
but yeah then i fight someone with Helping Hand Solar Beam Calyrex and Terapagos just carry the team because they fumbled
the Brain rot is just
painful
rustic mountain
its casual battles man
solid frigate
its casual battles man
yeah... the brainrot is painful,at least i can do something before i do anything in Ranked
cuz i haven't played with my Terapagos Team for a bit
molten oasis
Ah
rustic mountain
its more like they are fully playing casual. cant judge it on the same standards u do ranked
play sd if u wanna get practice in
solid frigate
its more like they are fully playing casual. cant judge it on the same standards...
the first one is yeah fully Casual but the second one is actually looks like a viable team
with Caly S,Bundle,H-Arcanine,Flutter Mane,Dengo and i forgot the last one god damn it
rustic mountain
viable or not its still a casual ladder its inherently less sweaty/skill based
rustic mountain
i still havent played terapagos
prolly will jus yoink the stockholm or indy 2nd place team
solid frigate
lol
rustic mountain
-8ball play terapagos b4 the month ends?
gentle cragBOT
play terapagos b4 the month ends?
:8ball: Better not tell you now
rustic mountain
-8ball wb now
gentle cragBOT
wb now
:8ball: Outlook good
rustic mountain
solid frigate
lol
solid frigate
damn it
rustic mountain
or have to b staff
rustic mountain
blame those before u
rustic mountain
it was abused so they made it more difficult to use
solid frigate
blame those before u
damn
molten oasis
Nice
rustic mountain
watchu waitin for
molten oasis
It’s not too hard
solid frigate
well its hard when most of the matches i faced are Either Zamazenta,Koraidon and Caly Ice
top 3 Terapagos Worst MU
well sure i am now in Great Ball Rank 8
rustic mountain
gta have gameplans for that. your play and team should compensate. matches arent 1v1 restricteds
solid frigate
yeah i get you
rustic mountain
sometimes u do lose yea but it shouldnt b an autoloss everytime
molten oasis
cant go into a game without a gameplan
solid frigate
i have to play my team Very Safely cuz i need Terapagos to Set up
rustic mountain
yea u should swap to specs
ur playing it reactively instead of proactively doing set up
molten oasis
the team is very centered around terapagos setting up
forest arrow
Specs Pagos hits hard
rustic mountain
specs gives u instant pressure
molten oasis
so it kinda messes with their team comp, i think
solid frigate
Terapagos-Terastal @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Tera Shift
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 132 SpA / 12 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 15 Atk
- Tera Starstorm
- Calm Mind
- Earth Power
- Protect
Idk why i gibe turtle so much Bulk lol
rustic mountain
so it kinda messes with their team comp, i think
sometimes u gta throw out wat doesnt work well enough
molten oasis
did they say set up wasnt working?
solid frigate
did they say set up wasnt working?
i mean Pizza's Set up Terapagos is working,its in Master Ball Tier now
molten oasis
is it consistent?
solid frigate
but then again,it has redirection
solid frigate
is it consistent?
he only lost like 1 time
molten oasis
ok well idt you should just hop on specs terapagos cuz thats what everyone else is using
rustic mountain
u can get to mball sure but if ur losing everytime to those teams might b worth considering a change to the team. unless u jus dont feel ur playing well enough
solid frigate
welp.
Time to rebuild MOST of my Team
molten oasis
just build a new team at that point
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/d417e06f60ba34a5
Have this in mind
molten oasis
looks good
rustic mountain
yea
molten oasis
maybe not tera dark chi yu
forest arrow
I played it
solid frigate
i guess raging bolt is not retiring
forest arrow
It was good
molten oasis
no snarl chi yu?
forest arrow
Changed chi yu up tho
molten oasis
cant leave home without your raging bolt
solid frigate
no snarl chi yu?
its sash Chi Yu so yeah...
solid frigate
cant leave home without your raging bolt
Raging Bolt:NO I DON'T WANT TO OUT OF RETIRE
alright then
Time to get 2 fresh Start Mochis for my Turtle and Chi Yu
molten oasis
i thought snarl was what you ran and then you had overheat as the 4th but i dont really run chi yu so, guess im wrong there
forest arrow
I just like to feel familiar with all the match ups
solid frigate
wait i have snarl on my Chi Yu-
rustic mountain
u could run snarl but w/ sash and that team comp i think those moves make sense
molten oasis
yea idt its bad just used to seeing snarl
rustic mountain
ur not really focusing on damage mitigation
solid frigate
also i have Snarl on bolt so it should be fine
molten oasis
fs
foggy lodge
I found someone using Toxapex and it was atleast an interesting experience https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2125224278-k7bmio91lwuq7h3qqw0azns0u9xh02vpw
foggy lodge
Watch it if you are able to see 22 turns and me trying to get the fissure just because
molten oasis
time to grind ogre oustin
rustic mountain
solid frigate
time to grind ogre oustin
tried that for 1 hour
molten oasis
get friends
solid frigate
not a single one dropped
foggy lodge
The hard mode gives a lot actually
And if you complete it you get a free shiny Munchlax so it's fine
But in single player is imposible
solid frigate
i haven't even finish hard mode cuz by the time i want to do it, Boom Indigo disk is out
forest arrow
This could help you out
solid frigate
or u can just use ev reducing berries
i can maybe
molten oasis
assuming you got a lot of those
forest arrow
10 per berry just like vitamins
rustic mountain
yea idk y u wouldnt. b4 fresh start mochi that was the only way to reset evs i bought em everytime i saw em at the ah
solid frigate
i have the least Grinding out of all
i guess i can make another Rental of Terapagos
solid frigate
I love how the school store in BB academy does not even have Dark Pulse TM
molten oasis
why aren't you just crafting it
solid frigate
idk i am stupid
time to auction
i just need enough EV reduce Berries
for Chi Yu,Bolt and Terapagos
FINALLY GOT ONE FRESH START MOCHI
strange fjord
noice
mighty stump
People r really creative with these rentals today arent they
solid frigate
Team rebuilt
solid frigate
People r really creative with these rentals today arent they
yeah idk what to expect now
time to climb the rank
mighty stump
up to 1496 now
good job
cyan smelt
i'm still not sure about rotom though
but maybe i need to choose which MUs i bring it to
solid frigate
Not the PokeRogue devs being transphobic omg
wtf
solid frigate
yea idk y u wouldnt. b4 fresh start mochi that was the only way to reset evs i b...
ok bad idea, lost twice in a row
tidal blade
omg
that server is in so much drama right now but im out here enjoying the 3x shiny weekend
solid frigate
finally won against a team damn
mighty stump
Lol
I don’t think in good conscience I can play the game anymore
It was kinda boring after like 15 minutes anyways
strange fjord
Not the PokeRogue devs being transphobic omg
big yikes. yeahhhh glad i didn't play. now i have a good reason not to now.
solid frigate
big yikes. yeahhhh glad i didn't play. now i have a good reason not to now.
same
also i regret Playing Specs Terapagos now
cyan smelt
someone needs to tell drago about that because he was playing it
solid frigate
someone needs to tell drago about that because he was playing it
@molten oasis
molten oasis
what do you want
solid frigate
what do you want
Ummmmm Scroll up to what tofu said
molten oasis
i was in the call with him
lofty tartan
I changed it to snarl, grass Tera
I'm riding some Scarf Grass Tera Snarl Chi-Yu. Absolutely slaps.
solid frigate
ok-
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125272113
Its a massacre-
Uhhhh what
cyan smelt
protect can fail if it's the last pokemon to use it
solid frigate
protect can fail if it's the last pokemon to use it
but like Raging bolt is attacking
Calyrex is the second one to Protect it should work
cyan smelt
if those were the only two using protect then that's why it failed
solid frigate
if those were the only two using protect then that's why it failed
it does not work like that i think
cyan smelt
did it use protect the previous turn
solid frigate
ok nvm
he's gamble for a double protec
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125278253
How
the fuck
did i clutch that
cyan smelt
crit mattered
dawn crown
im 1 game away to 1500 for the first time
rustic mountain
nice
rustic mountain
ok bad idea, lost twice in a row
?
solid frigate
r u talkin about after switching teams?
yep
rustic mountain
yea it takes a bit to get used to a different team, especially going from set up balance to ho
solid frigate
yea it takes a bit to get used to a different team, especially going from set up...
against 2 Kyogres,Caly Ice, Miraidon and Zacian in Showdown and won all
Against Kyogre and Caly Shadow but won against a Miraidon in SV
i guess its not too bad
giving i am half awake
rustic mountain
hard to judge usually then
ik for me i jus rip thru games wen im tired so i try not to play wen i am
rustic mountain
i mean u can save replays and watch later
that can still b helpful
win or loss
solid frigate
thats what i usually do lol
rustic mountain
jus usually better to practice wen u have some semblance of energy so ur not looking back at a lot saying i couldve done that better. jus doesnt help elevate ur play as much cuz ur jus correcting or noticing boneheaded plays
i guess it can help if u make those mistakes a lot tho
solid frigate
yeah true
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
no doubt
solid frigate
FIRST GAME OF THE DAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
F
mighty stump
that was game-winning btw lmaooooo
solid frigate
damn-
rustic mountain
FIRST GAME OF THE DAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
gotta love it
i had that and bleakwind double miss in the same turn
the game was literally over on the spot
mighty stump
I think I figured out Koraidon
rustic mountain
solid frigate
I think I figured out Koraidon
wait Koraidon Chi Yu?
rustic mountain
no, chi yu koraidon
mighty stump
actually koraidon miraidon
mighty stump
rustic mountain
idk it just felt underwhelming wen i tried it and played vs it so was curious lol
mighty stump
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2125294382-dl44pwiy6gjm627u3xurs4tp82kb4dppw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2125296381-7tnydkr9dr2lgpti5b3wgy3s7i19c16pw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reggbo3-2125298244-lxdkvqcgyexci7dk9k4v9w2vi0d658apw
I think the current rough draft gives me a lot of options
flowed decently as well
so i'm gonna see where on the ladder we can get to with it later
Gonna need to check the Sludge Bomb calc vs Ogerpon
rustic mountain
chi yu making up for the misses w/ that crit and burn in g2 and 3 lol
not like either mattered
mighty stump
Silly fish
rustic mountain
solid frigate
molten oasis
cyan smelt
i was thinking about koraidon/venusaur recently
mighty stump
I know Hilligant is also common for Coaching shenanigans
cyan smelt
might try koraidon/hilligant
mighty stump
Btw
In case anyone needs ideas
Granted, some of the opinoins are probably outdated/misguided/not the full picture
But with a bit of critical thinking you can probably peruse this to just gain some form of insight
molten oasis
maybe i can see other zacian things
still, unsure on how i feel about the current thing
cyan smelt
did they write off zama and miraidon
molten oasis
pre indi and stockholm probably
mighty stump
I think Gouging is still pretty ok
molten oasis
i think incin hurts it
cuz, you'd rather have the incin half the time
ig i wouldn't be opposed to trying zac gouging again
mighty stump
Again, depends
cyan smelt
since when does smogon do vgc analysis anyway lol
molten oasis
the ground types i have to deal with are really just bloodmoon rn
mighty stump
Well Smogon's formats aren';t VGC related but there are VGC Smogon players
For instance
Rajan Bal
Lol
Underhill
cyan smelt
fair
mighty stump
Cause the fundamentals/method of thinking/analysis are pretty much similar thought patterns
molten oasis
do you think zac gouging, amoonguss, uh, smth like that could work?
cyan smelt
why not howl scream tail?
molten oasis
...i forgot about that but zac wants a dragon partner
or ig zac supports dragon partners really well offensively
mighty stump
Could work
mighty stump
zac bolt and zac drago are things ive had some success with
Did you read Aaron Traylor's recent team report
I think you should
mighty stump
and it puts perspective into just how much work it can take to make something different work to a high level
molten oasis
it is proving difficult
to get zac to work but also i'll put the work in
more as im starting to run out of time
mighty stump
Dont forget to have fun with it
molten oasis
yea
this seems like they collaborated a lot on this
ok so things vary a lot
so from what im reading so far
teams change a lot but they pick out things theyve found worked well
lmfao i cant with "and im wolfe glick, and i think they should run incineroar because it's just the strngest freaking pokemon in the game"
mighty stump
lol
One key thing id love to point iut
Don’t just follow a player’s opinion just because you respect them
(unless you have a really bad opinion then like)
This isn’t an excuse to dispute players who know what theyre talking about if you’re trying to learn
molten oasis
mhmm
mighty stump
Like you obviously have to have good reasonings/justifications to back up the alternative options you wanna explore
molten oasis
thats fair
i kinda
i want to try gouging fire zac but i also kinda want to try drago zac again
hmm
rustic mountain
mighty stump
Honestly i wouldnt even Booster Spe Gouging
patent marsh
mighty stump
Id consider Howl with clam
Protect + Howl play > Gouging can start doing some decent chip
Blitz over Crash especially for things like Zama
and Farig
molten oasis
what does 150 speed get me
molten oasis
oh that would be good for single strike
alr ill just do that then
ill just, idc that much
this team, besides the wellspring does not really like kyogre that much
https://pokepast.es/fa3407753a3b602a its a start
mighty stump
Probably an Ogerpon/Pao lead into Tornogre stuff
molten oasis
yea
mighty stump
Could also consider Paonite
molten oasis
ig inner focus would help
rustic mountain
will paonite make its return
molten oasis
with incin
rustic mountain
i faced a donbozo team yday
mighty stump
I mean things like Paonite and stuff and all that are still like
Options
I don’t think people should close off past cores if they fit the logic
rustic mountain
idt so either
molten oasis
pao amoonguss and shifu are really just slap on rn
mighty stump
Like Dondozo with Defense Tatsu makes sense
Like against Zamazenta? Zama hard loses that
Body Press Dondozo also screws CIR
and Incineroar
Tera Grass ignores Amoonguss
rustic mountain
they didnt even activate idk wat their last was im assuming tatsu
mighty stump
I also like Sash/Mirror Coat or Counter Tatsugiri
rustic mountain
I also like Sash/Mirror Coat or Counter Tatsugiri
that seems intriguing
rustic mountain
defense dozo could b solid tbh
mighty stump
that seems intriguing
Like it also encourages you to think about “dying properly”
molten oasis
mighty stump
e.g. putting yourself into range so you can die without chipping Tatsu
Its interestin
I liked it
I thank Rank 7 JPN
rustic mountain
yea i think body press is in an interesting spot rn too so getting that +2 from commander is very nice
mighty stump
Unaware also huge
rustic mountain
protect/body press/order up/wave crash?
rustic mountain
Unaware also huge
tru
mighty stump
Cause u dont care abt Intim
U just BPress
I think Order Up/Bpress + Sub can also kinda work
Heavy Slam too
rustic mountain
yea
im thinkin like csr or miraidon would be good restricteds for it
wat did u run
mighty stump
Grimmsnarl/Flutter/Bolt/Terapagos w Specs like what the guy ran
molten oasis
i won, very cool
rustic mountain
specs terapagos seems good too
molten oasis
just to go into another miraidon
mighty stump
Hydro miss/Draco miss/Triple 3 Turn Sleep/Knock Off crit
rustic mountain
lmao wtf
mighty stump
specs terapagos seems good too
Interestingly
He had Covert Cloak Grimm w FO/Sucker/Spirit Break
I tried that and added Fake Tears for Pagos
rustic mountain
mighty stump
its rlly fun
rustic mountain
yea i like varied grimm sets
it has so many moves it can run
makes it hard sometimes figuring out which 4 to use
i remember in swsh running 1 screen cuz i had intimidate haha
mighty stump
Thats smart tho
rustic mountain
yea it makes sense i had seen someone else doing it and was like hell yea. actually opened up the gameplay a lot instead of feeling like u needed both screens
atleast for me
solid trail
I need help teambuilding All Ik is I will have Flutter Mane and Oranguru on my team I need suggestions
molten oasis
pao zac is kinda nice i wont lie
cyan smelt
so is pao zama
molten oasis
im aware
rustic mountain
molten oasis
the dogs both like similar partners
mighty stump
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2125324872-jp9etirp85adt6lww5...
Only mistake was not clicking Sucker into the Whimsicott or Double up Bundle but either way rlly well played
molten oasis
what turn?
mighty stump
T5
molten oasis
ah
mighty stump
Tera Stellar + SoR is disgusting though
molten oasis
it hurts
rustic mountain
im kinda annoyed they nerfed zacian like they did lol
molten oasis
same
rustic mountain
jus unneccesary
molten oasis
i think the ability should have stayed the same
rustic mountain
lower the atk or change the ability, both is just rough
rustic mountain
in that context yea
mighty stump
But also
molten oasis
rustic mountain
cuz i have a theory they always wanna have the new legends take the spotlight
mighty stump
I feel it would have bumped it up too back up
molten oasis
fucking, hate it
rustic mountain
so the mechanics and shit is geared toward making that happen
mighty stump
and also cause Ogerpon has the same mechanic
molten oasis
should have doubled into the incin last turn but ugh
rustic mountain
it was overbearing without dmax
u mean in series 10?
molten oasis
it wouldn't have killed
rustic mountain
ahh yea it was busted w/ dmax
molten oasis
bblade is just a 100 bp steel move
rustic mountain
it was really good in series 10 too but it def was manageable even w/ it not nerfed. i just think keeping its atk stat and having the boost be one time would be more then enough
molten oasis
they didnt do anything for it lol
mighty stump
I think without nerfing Intrepid Sword
rustic mountain
its the same issue w/ terapagos tbh, w/o tera its gna b really weird to use
mighty stump
There is just no valid counterplay
Cause it punishes Incin more than Zacian
One Play Rough, switch, and now you cant switch in to get rid of the second boost
rustic mountain
i felt i could cycle decently well vs it and players doing the same vs me but thats wat im saying taking away intrepid sword activation every time it enters the field is fine but lowering its atk too jus felt like overkill. its w/e i jus had enjoyed playing with the mon
feels like hard mode trynna win w/ it now lol like im good
rustic mountain
which is caly a
molten oasis
s
rustic mountain
ive never seen that
molten oasis
ive seen it here and there
rustic mountain
yea jus not a tera type ive encountered on any ive faced is all
not saying some1 isnt runnin it
molten oasis
well, i hit 1500 with it
pao zac feels decent
fucking, i hate incin
idk what to di into it
everything i do jsut feels ass into it
doesnt matter what, could have a whole team of anti incin id still fucking lose to it
cyan smelt
what do you do against caly-s
molten oasis
wellspring pao
cyan smelt
yeah incin is hard for zac
molten oasis
ok well incin is hard for every team i build
