competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

Aren't most miraidons specs

[solid frigate]

yeah but like Terapagos Calm Mind set

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[lofty tartan]

Against anything flying, you can still Fake Out. I've run Psychic Surge Indeedee w/ FO before. If Torn isn't cloaked, fair game

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. +2 252 HP / 12 SpD Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 52-62 (25.7 - 30.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

Calm mind twice lol

[molten oasis]

that includes levitate btw

[lofty tartan]

^

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but they terad terapagos right away to remove psychic terrain

[solid frigate]

yeah so My cresselia is actually vunerable to it

[lofty tartan]

That's neat.

[molten oasis]

yuh

[little plank]

So from the looks of the past 2 regional caly shadow is falling off

[lofty tartan]

You still get terrain into other terrain mons and get FO when you want it because you can remove terrain on-demand.

[cyan smelt]

Pretty nice idea

[lofty tartan]

Until everyone stops teching for it because they think it's not good, and then it sweeps an event.

The circle of life.

[molten oasis]

its good, give it time

[cyan smelt]

Kyogre and caly s are not washed

[little plank]

I mean I'm bringing kyurum white to naic lol so less caly shadow the better

[lofty tartan]

Best of luck

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/c737bf76d73af95f

I think i can remove Torn for Whim or any pokemon with Redirection

[molten oasis]

you're going to NAIC? pog

best of luck to ya, im going as well

[cyan smelt]

Wish they still did ocic

[solid frigate]

i missed the EUIC

[forest arrow]

Aye good luck

[solid frigate]

guys should i remove Torn for something else?

[little plank]

Your name made me think of how broken zacian would be if he had extreme speed lol

[molten oasis]

that would be interesting

[strange fjord]

tera normal e speed

big damage

[little plank]

Pre attack nerf lmao

[solid frigate]

Zacian go brrrr

[molten oasis]

pre attack yea but tbf

it did deserve a nerf

although i think intreped sword and dauntless shield's nerfs could get reverted

mostly for zac, i think it was a bit much for it

[solid frigate]

ummm i reeally need suggestions-

[molten oasis]

wellspring or clef over torn or smth if you want redirect

or drop the cress

[forest arrow]

Yeah I was gonna say clef

[solid frigate]

time to find Another Clefairy

[cyan smelt]

Clef could be good in tr too with after you

[solid frigate]

Cresselia can just help me remove Sleep when Terapagos is sleeping

[molten oasis]

yk who else can semi do that?

wellspring, or yk, kill the amoonguss somehow

or run taunt incin

[solid frigate]

welp time to run my own Team and leave the rental behind

[solid frigate]

tried Wellspring

[forest arrow]

Clef can heal pulse or life dew if you’re worried about that as well, just gotta make the right call when they double up and go for clef with protects

[solid frigate]

i can try Clef replace Torn

[forest arrow]

I’d say cress but it’s your team, hope it works for you

[solid frigate]

it works well

Where is the damn LUNAR Baby

found it

[cyan smelt]

Lunar baby?

[solid frigate]

yeah

[cyan smelt]

What's that, cress

[solid frigate]

Clefairy

[cyan smelt]

Oh right

[solid frigate]

can someone gimme the EVs for it

[solid frigate]

My Incin is AV-

[molten oasis]

ah

[solid frigate]

also really need the EVs for it rn

[cyan smelt]

Safety goggles incin?

[solid frigate]

its on Cresselia

[cyan smelt]

Oh

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why My Rillaboom is Miracle seed

and also why Tornadus is here

And i am changing back to Torn

I got screwed over by Opposing Torn who has the same teams as me besides FLutter

[atomic mural]

I have this 1 speed iv blood moon ursaluna

but I do have the resources to grind for a 0 speed

is that one speed point difference worth it

[solid frigate]

depends,but mostly its fine igues

[fluid wind]

https://pokepast.es/15cfdf54299c95b7 what do yall think about this team

[mighty stump]

0/1 IV is no difference

[atomic mural]

oh you are right

I forgot to change it to 50 to check that

i was just at 70 which is the level you catch it at and theres a difference at 70 so it threw me off

this ursaluna also has an attack iv between 3 and 4

[solid frigate]

If you don't want to hunt another BM Ursa,then i think its fine

[atomic mural]

i dont

it takes like 2 minutes between each reset

[solid frigate]

ok then stick with it is fine

[atomic mural]

its also the one I got through my first playthrough of the DLC so I got unreasonably lucky

[molten oasis]

nice

[solid frigate]

nice

[molten oasis]

i had to play all of the game again to get a 0 speed one

that, sucked

[solid frigate]

i got a maxed speed one

[atomic mural]

it was written in the stars that i get to use freddy fazbear

[rustic mountain]

i mean u didnt have to, u chose to

[solid frigate]

31 IV

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

at the time i did

[rustic mountain]

y

[molten oasis]

but now im not running bloodmoon

[cyan smelt]

I remember resetting for a 0 speed caly i

[molten oasis]

at the time i was considering taking bloodmoon to naic

[rustic mountain]

thats my point u couldve just not run bloodmoon haha or go turbo like most ppl do

oh naic gotcha fair enough

mine was 31iv i jus said fuck it

[atomic mural]

also in school my class is reading a book about new orleans so its a sign i have to go to NAIC

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

31 IV BM Ursa gang

[rustic mountain]

🤝

[solid frigate]

at least go Turbo mode like Turbo Incin

[rustic mountain]

i remember turbo incin w/ sash in swsh

[atomic mural]

like look how lucky I got (the nature was hardy originally as well as the spdef being "pretty good")

[solid frigate]

i feel like the Turbo incin in Indy is that direct Reference

[rustic mountain]

ik

jus making me remember it also being a niche thing in swsh

[solid frigate]

lol

tru tho like you never see it coming

[rustic mountain]

it was a smart call. it has its pros

made sense for the caly ice team. idt its something u wanna jus have tho jus b.c

[solid frigate]

mhm

[craggy dagger]

terapagos the galapagos giant turtle

[solid frigate]

forfeit Everything to the Tortol

[atomic mural]

why do so many tournaments end up having caly ice in the top 8 but never in grand finals

its a curse

[solid frigate]

funny thing is that Terapagos stopped it twice

and Only Caly Ice Won is in South America

[atomic mural]

at least it won once

[solid frigate]

yeah i mean its not bad for it

rn Koraidon,Miraidon,Terapagos,Zamazenta and Caly Ice won at least once

[atomic mural]

like im looking at labmaus and every tournament i look at a caly ice team is usually in the top 4 or 3 but never in grands its so dumb

[solid frigate]

Terapagos almost won 3 times lol

[atomic mural]

yeah

[cyan smelt]

Tortol

[atomic mural]

now im gonna be the main HATER of the turtle

[solid frigate]

this is why you don't betray your Miraidon

[atomic mural]

Im just not a born miraidon user

I wan born to be a caly ice user

[atomic mural]

(I suck at using him)

[solid frigate]

what i was born to be a Set Up user?

[twin cargo]

i wanna get back into competitive pokemon and does anyone know how good hydreigon is in this meta?

[solid frigate]

trash.

[atomic mural]

it stinky poo poo

[twin cargo]

i knew it 😞

[solid frigate]

its now restricted Format

1 box art legendary time

[twin cargo]

oh wait fr?

[solid frigate]

mhm

you can see the #rental_teams

[twin cargo]

my calyrex is about to go crazy 🔥🔥🔥

[solid frigate]

Caly Ice is better now

[twin cargo]

WAIT REALLY???

nah i’m still a shadow rider believer

[solid frigate]

Yeah Caly Shadow is just not it for this format

[solid frigate]

Me with Terapagos:

[twin cargo]

how good is terapagos?

[solid frigate]

top 3.

[twin cargo]

i don’t have the dlc :p

[solid frigate]

i would say TOp 3.

[twin cargo]

what are the other 3???

[atomic mural]

zamazenta is honestly a contender for top 3

[solid frigate]

Caly Ice is the Best
Followed by Miraidon,Terapagos,Koraidon(I Guess) and Kyogre/Zamazenta

[twin cargo]

WHAT

what happened while i was taking a break 💔

[atomic mural]

id say my top 3 is caly ice, terapagos, and zam

[solid frigate]

Top 3 for me is Caly Ice,Miraidon and Terapagos

[atomic mural]

miraidon is 4 and 5 is caly-shadow

[solid frigate]

a lot actually

[atomic mural]

zamazenta won a regional in germany

[twin cargo]

is urshifu still good 🥺? i haven’t played since gen 8 :p

[solid frigate]

Stockholm is Sweden-

[atomic mural]

ah

stockholm sounds german im sorry

[solid frigate]

Geography not Geographing

[cyan smelt]

Urshifu still good

[solid frigate]

its still a menace

[twin cargo]

YEAHHHH

[solid frigate]

Its not restricted but its very good

[twin cargo]

my urshifu rapid strike boutta go crazy

[craggy dagger]

yeshhhh

[atomic mural]

did you know urshifu adamant max speed choice scarf urshifu always outspeeds caly-shadow?

[twin cargo]

i’m sorry what

[solid frigate]

by 1 point

[atomic mural]

yeah but that one point matters

[solid frigate]

yey

[twin cargo]

but how is single strike? i have both but i wanna know which one is better :p

[solid frigate]

its still great but Rapid is better

[twin cargo]

alr 🫡

[solid frigate]

also Currently,Koraidon,Miraidon,Terapagos,Zamazenta and Caly Ice won at least one Event

[twin cargo]

damnit and i traded away my koraidon too

can i use the ride one?

[atomic mural]

i need people to know my opinion that araquanid is actually a good niche pick

[solid frigate]

yeah but you can't bring it into Rental?

[cyan smelt]

You can, just change it to battle form

[solid frigate]

i think there is ONLY ONE ARAQUINID in all 5 Events

[twin cargo]

oh oki!!!

[atomic mural]

ok but that one was 9th place

they just didnt need the niche

[solid frigate]

I'm just a Terapagos Cresselia beliver

[twin cargo]

one last question how good is landorus and tornadus?

i loved using them last generation so i wanna use them again

[solid frigate]

Tornadus is Great in Pranskter Speed Control,Landorus I is now more better than T

[twin cargo]

nice to know!

thank you :3

[solid frigate]

if you need help,just ask us,this Reg is quite hard this time

[twin cargo]

i will thanks :3

[solid frigate]

[atomic mural]

remember: araquanid always needs more support from people (you could be them)

[solid frigate]

let them think about it

[atomic mural]

ok but +6 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Araquanid: 155-183 (88.5 - 104.5%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

[solid frigate]

then again,

Its not very Effective

[atomic mural]

thats why its a niche, if you stuggle against zam too much, and you really dont want rain of your team, you run araquanid

obviously not on sun but

[solid frigate]

i mean Serperior is used as well

which is funni

[atomic mural]

isnt that for contrary stellar tera blast

[cyan smelt]

Or leaf storm

[solid frigate]

no its not

i don't think its Stellar Tera

[atomic mural]

wellk thats like a move you 100% put on it

[twin cargo]

SERPERIOR IS IN THE GAME???

[solid frigate]

ummm in the DLC

[twin cargo]

NOOOOOO

[solid frigate]

all the Starters are in the DLC

[twin cargo]

that’s my baby 😞💔

[solid frigate]

i can trade you one

[atomic mural]

including the goat

[solid frigate]

you mean Incin?

[atomic mural]

ermm

[cyan smelt]

Wait it gets scale shot too which would lower its speed but raise defence lmao

[twin cargo]

THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME IF YOU DID

[solid frigate]

honestly if you make the TR set,it would be tanky lol

[solid frigate]

go to dms

[atomic mural]

i was talking about the REAL goat

https://tenor.com/view/araquanid-araquanid-pet-pet-pokemon-gif-16349322576860259266

dont the power items work in battle?

[next stump]

yes they do

[atomic mural]

how much do the power items boost the stat

ah wait they dont

they just lower speed

[next stump]

yep just 0.5x speed

[atomic mural]

nvm mind them

if they actually boosted the stat I would have ran power lens ursaluna blood moon

but nvm

would have been cool

I believe in the heart of the cards (will probably put this on rental teams)

super unoriginal names but just ignore those

[twin cargo]

what item would be good on koraidon?

[atomic mural]

clear amulet

[cyan smelt]

Clear amulet

[twin cargo]

clear amulet?

[atomic mural]

ye

[next stump]

cool team

[twin cargo]

what’s that

[solid frigate]

new item

[next stump]

mental herb giraffe is cool tech for closed teamsheet

[cyan smelt]

Item that prevents stats being lowered

[twin cargo]

oh!!!

where do i get one?

[cyan smelt]

Delibird presents

[solid frigate]

in Mezagosa Delibird i think

ALSO I NEED TO BUY SALT

[twin cargo]

alright!!!

[atomic mural]

its also an almost guaranteed trick room partnered with follow me smeargle or wide guard araquanid

[solid frigate]

why does this team feels like a Closed Team sheet team-

[cyan smelt]

I believe in rotom wash

[solid frigate]

wait

[atomic mural]

no

[solid frigate]

thats just half of Wolfey's Smeragle Team-

[atomic mural]

well the spreads are different

[next stump]

does smeargle underspeed your trick room sweepers?

[rustic mountain]

sd still down

[cyan smelt]

Rip

[rustic mountain]

all good jus wanted to get a few games b4 crashing

[solid frigate]

F

[solid frigate]

tru....

[atomic mural]

first game on ladder actually went so good

[cyan smelt]

Noice

[solid frigate]

why there are still some people run Electric Seed Miraidon-

with Quark Spam+ SNow

[cyan smelt]

Maybe to deal with rilla?

[solid frigate]

the fact not only they Encored my Terapagos and cresselia making them spamming Calm Mind and Lunar Blessing

they also have aurora Veil

and i only used Rillaboom for fake out and thats it

[cyan smelt]

Is it bundle that's using encore

[solid frigate]

yep

[cyan smelt]

Annoying

[solid frigate]

i did not even bring Tornadus

[solid frigate]

they fumbled by doing that lol

+4 Terapagos

[cyan smelt]

Lol

[solid frigate]

I did not even need to bring Incineroar in this match-

like i only used 3 pokemon

[cyan smelt]

Wait aren't they just going to keep encoring you so you're forced to keep using calm mind

[atomic mural]

Im gonna give araquanid saftey goggles

[solid frigate]

yep

[atomic mural]

I only have one pokemon with the option to ignore spore

[solid frigate]

but somehow they switch

anyways

[strange fjord]

turtle is fun

[cyan smelt]

Tortol is good, remember when people said it was mid

[chilly seal]

Anyone on violet rn?

[craggy dagger]

is showdown back up-

[chrome knot]

guess what

[craggy dagger]

mmm?

[chrome knot]

chicken butt….

[strange fjord]

torchic butt

showdown is not up

[molten oasis]

HAHAHAHA, AHAHAHA

YOURE SOO FUNNY (I’m tired)

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

[wheat geode]

Is there a decent way to use Mabosstiff?

[dapper crag]

Mabosstiff's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bite, Body Slam, Comeuppance, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Endeavor, Facade, Fire Fang, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Fang, Jaw Lock, Lash Out, Lick, Outrage, Payback, Play Rough, Psychic Fangs, Retaliate, Reversal, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Fang, Trailblaze, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Dark Pulse, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Snarl, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Charm, Curse, Destiny Bond, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Leer, Pain Split, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mabosstiff.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 943: Mabosstiff

Type

Dark

Abilities

Intimidate, Guard Dog, Stakeout (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/90/60/70/85

Total

505

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

I don’t have any experience with it, but AV don’t look bad

[cyan smelt]

except for flutter

[molten oasis]

Here’s my suggestion

Don’t use this

[cyan smelt]

koraidon and zamazenta would have a field day with mabosstiff

[honest wharf]

I'm looking at the Stockholm Zama team and is it like a fair conclusion to say that the Latios (holding Soul Dew) there is a check for Miraidon and Koraidon?

Also do we have vods of the stockholm regionals?

Actually I'll just watch the matches to try and get a better guess

[patent marsh]

https://vxtwitter.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1790580854474858857?t=6y-BUThgp9jr1WrvrhtG-w&s=19

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[cyan smelt]

how long has it been down for now?

[cyan smelt]

16 hours according to twitter

[solid frigate]

damn lol

the fact that i can still build teams but not the entire fighting

[cyan smelt]

Wonder what caused the provider's outage

[solid frigate]

idk

[cyan smelt]

Probably the solar storms

[solid frigate]

maybe

[forest arrow]

Me twiddling my fingers at 6 am right when I wake up bc showdown is still down 🥲

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/idubbbz-crippling-depression-gif-21545657

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pelipper-pokemon-im-gettin-the-gif-7744330125253032652

[cyan smelt]

i bet it'll be down for 2 days

[forest arrow]

Mood lol

[solid frigate]

total mood

like i can still build teams,but testing is no go

[forest arrow]

Indeed, was trying to practice for Limitless tourney this weekend

[cyan smelt]

i'm just tryna get to 1500

[solid frigate]

i joined once and i only got 18th/27th

[forest arrow]

I’ll just do Bo3 with you guys if y’all would be down to practice after I get off work

[solid frigate]

i do it after i finished school

[cyan smelt]

i haven't tried my team in bo3 yet but sure but i'll probably be sleeping when you hop off work

who knows how long it'll be down for though

[midnight compass]

How long showdown gonna be down? It’s already been 19 hours wtf

[cyan smelt]

they're waiting on their provider to fix it so who knows

[midnight compass]

Wonderful, I seen that they posted something on twitter, but that was yesterday so their provider must really be struggling 😂

[cyan smelt]

definitely lol

[cyan smelt]

ok just opened up showdown and they said they'll be back in a few hours

[autumn vault]

No, you got a free rep so take it, even if it was disrespect

And yes it was badly timed

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/people-are-mean-to-me-donald-trump-alec-baldwin-saturday-night-live-i-get-bullied-gif-18779181

[mighty stump]

Rank 7 on ladder running Covert Cloak offensive Grimm

Oh

Oh shit

Actually

[next stump]

kinda fire

[mighty stump]

This is the team

Dozogiri kinda fire into Zamazenta in this scenario

It was Sucker/FO/Spirit Break Grimm

Booster Spe Flutter/Specs Turtle/AV Bolt

Lmao I just checked

That win gave me 1800s in-game

[honest wharf]

Folks how much damage do you think Zamazenta suffered here?

[autumn vault]

Like 5-10% of damage

[honest wharf]

Thanks. Am trying to calc EVs based on the damage done by a volt switch from a presumably -SpA Iron Hands

[bold geode]

Dozogiri is a struggle lol

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hyaku-bara-cute-pokemon-rillaboom-gif-26457714

Who we use in those scenarios:

[bold geode]

What kinda Deviantart bullshit is this

[autumn vault]

Idk i found that gif

It is the first one that popped up

You get my point, Rillaboom does great against DozoGiri

[tough idol]

Just spat my coffee out. Opponent quit Turn 2 because Imprisoned Trick Room 🤣

[patent marsh]

[tawdry urchin]

So I waited a whole day just to see this shit...

Also dose anyone have any recomendations for what the 6th pokemon I should add to my team be?

[mighty stump]

Not a defensive one

and not one with defense boosts

[timber falcon]

Dozogiri can be very scary

Made the mistake of also thinking Rilla is enough, mf gave it the tatsugiri with defence boosts

[wide pivot]

Hey everyone, hope you are doing well in these rough times with no Showdown... 😂

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-walter-white-breaking-bad-falling-gif-25642150

[timber falcon]

Gothatelle is interesting

[tawdry urchin]

Why are people using reliboom with calyrex?

[next stump]

it’s a nice way to complete your fire/water/grass defensive core

[timber falcon]

Passive healing, kyogre maybe, FO pressure

[next stump]

terrain is helpful into miraidon/indeedee as well

also yes double fake out with nasty plot calyrex is solid

[tawdry urchin]

But dose grassy terrain not prevent priorioty moves?

[next stump]

Grassy terrain has no effect on priority moves besides making grassy glide +1 priority

[tawdry urchin]

Then why do people use it? 1 sucker punch and calyrex is gone

[next stump]

clefairy has redirection, you have two fake out users, and he probably had focus sash

the game is never really that simple

[autumn vault]

Aaron Zheng's hair looks like a black pie

[tawdry urchin]

The only fake out user I have is insinaour. nvm, reliboom is trash anyways

[next stump]

👍

[autumn vault]

Rillaboom isn't trash, it isn't good on Psychic terrain teams but blame the ability

[tawdry urchin]

yeah but i don't understand why people use it when indedee is right there to support calyrex

[autumn vault]

You aren't forced to use Indeedee with Calyrex-Shadow

[tawdry urchin]

Why? It has helping hand and follow me as calyrex sets up

[autumn vault]

Rillaboom has Grassy terrain which is nice for the team and Fake Out

It also gets Grassy Glide to get pokemon to not use their focus sash for calyrex to annihilate

[tawdry urchin]

all grassy terrain dose is makes grass type moves stronger and makes glassy slide priority

[next stump]

Wolfey won a tournament with Caly-S without Indeedee and this person got top 32 at a regional with the same team

[autumn vault]

And heals the pokemon on the field by 1/16 of health every turn

[next stump]

The team clearly works

[autumn vault]

And halfs EQ damage

[tawdry urchin]

Yet idk how it works

[bold geode]

Because Rillaboom and Incineroar, which quite of people use, gives you something called a "double Fake Out" core
Fake Out being a priority move that flinches it's target and is only stopped by either Indeedee terrain or Farigiraf, and is actually pretty strong to help it set up
Usually it doesn't need as much Helping Hand support once it gets a Nasty Plot set up
As if your opponent doesn't have Wide Guard, +2 Astral Barrage can start to look a bit scary even with Dark types

[tawdry urchin]

but what if they have wide guard?

[autumn vault]

Then we taunt or Fake out

[tawdry urchin]

taunt with what?

[autumn vault]

Many pokemon have taunt

[bold geode]

A lot of people tend to play around it
Whether by removing the Wide Guard user, Taunt, or single target moves such as Psyshock or Draining Kiss

[autumn vault]

Tornadus Incineroar Rillaboom Grimmsnarl etc.

Also Ogerpon (not worth running taunt on it)

[tawdry urchin]

Ok fine I'll use the monke but what other move/ item do I give it?

[bold geode]

Rn Calyrex Shadow imo wants Draining Kiss anyways cuz the Ghost/Psychic gets hurt by Dark types
Incineroar eats that combo for lunch

[autumn vault]

Rillaboom? Wood Hammer and give it Assault Vest

[bold geode]

Meanwhile Fairy at least you do something to it

[autumn vault]

Also don't go 252 spe on it

[bold geode]

What is full team rn?

[tawdry urchin]

but it has taunt...

[autumn vault]

You have 1 free moveslot, use that one for wood hammer

[autumn vault]

Don't run Indeedee and Rillaboom together pls

[bold geode]

So I wouldn't use both Indeedee and Rillaboom
Clefairy here basically does its job

Oh boy I see the

Oh boy

[autumn vault]

You need more answers to Dark types

[tawdry urchin]

Ok then so I won't be using rillaboom then

[bold geode]

[autumn vault]

You can use that slot for a pokemon who has a positive MU into dark types

[tawdry urchin]

ok so pokemon would that be then?

[autumn vault]

Dark is weak to 3 types: Fairy Bug and Fighting

Lets ignore bug type

So that leaves us with 2: Fighting and Fairy

Honestly you can run Flutter Mane here, you already have an answer to ghost type moves and does good against Dark Types

And you already check incineroar with Urshifu-R

[tawdry urchin]

why need a dark type defender when I have urshifu then?

[autumn vault]

Because only one member can deal with them, having 2 is good enough

And Dark is looking really good against Indeedee + CSR

[tawdry urchin]

mhm ok but would Mienshao be good? I have done some research and Mienshao is apperetnly really good when pared up with calyrex

because it has close combat, a really good ability, wide guard, fake out, and then an extra slot for what ever move works

[autumn vault]

Probably, the team can get 4 supports but Mienshao and Incineroar can still do good damage meanwhile indeedee and clef are stuck to supporting

So honestly if you can't think of something else then maybe Mienshao, i would go flutter mane here ngl

[tawdry urchin]

mmm ok but isn't flutter mane like not really good now cus no one uses it now apparently

[autumn vault]

Its at 32% usage, there are still people using it

[tawdry urchin]

ah ok, then what moves should I give it? I allready know it's getting booster energy

[autumn vault]

Dazzling Gleam Moonblast Shadow Ball protect

[tawdry urchin]

anyreason why 2 fairy moves? Ik dazzling gleam hits both pokemon

[autumn vault]

with Dazzling Gleam you hit both opponents and do some solid spread damage, with moonblast you can do a very good amount of damage and you still get a fairy stab infront of Wide Guard, Moonblast also picks up several KOs that Gleam cant

[tawdry urchin]

ok tysm, Now to test out the team I now need to wait "a few hours"

[gentle crag]

1uk919 has given 1 Gen Rep to lycopoky

[mighty stump]

I tried telling them ages ago

Lol

[patent marsh]

people still trying to do expanding force calyrex?

[mighty stump]

It's not terrible, just also not necessary

Id prefer running Single Target + Boosting, imo if running Expanding Force you'd almost want Triple STAB

[scarlet otter]

I was getting knock off team knocking corbfish and found a shiny one

[autumn vault]

Too blurry to see

[scarlet otter]

Yeah I got a new phone but the camera is pretty trash

Planning to get another phone

[mighty stump]

HAHAHA

I CAN P{LAY SHOWDOWN

[zealous badger]

Its up?

[mighty stump]

Secret website

🆒

[mighty stump]

its showdown but china

[balmy glen]

lol

[mighty stump]

https://china.psim.us/teambuilder

[bold geode]

@timber falcon your notes for rental are not accessible, need to give access to those

[mighty stump]

Lmao

The chinese are asking why are there so many people

[bold geode]

No
I don't need the US government banning Showdown either

[mighty stump]

Whats that supposed to mean

[bold geode]

They banned TikTok cuz of China
Knowing them, they'd probably be like "GET IT"

[mighty stump]

If that was a joke its a pretty poor one

[bold geode]

Did you expect anything else?

Honestly Tofu if you expected comedy from me, you were sorely mistaken

The only comedy I can give you is my GXEs

[bold geode]

Wonder if it's

[scarlet otter]

Nice

[bold geode]

That Regirock

[solid frigate]

UNUNUNUN

[atomic mural]

I can see all those shiny pixels

[mighty stump]

ez top 50 on china

its so kek

there is nobody

[timber falcon]

Thank for this

i think i fixed it

[timber falcon]

it works

just gonna so some random battles

[mighty stump]

https://attraylor.medium.com/miraidons-big-day-indianapolis-regionals-2024-top-8-team-report-9e25996d6641

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-clefairy-confused-lost-gif-5702557

welp

time to make the Dawn Wings Team

[timber falcon]

Oh there were 2 miraidon teams?

[solid frigate]

theres two in top cut during Indy

One is Rajan's,one is the one with the Ditto

[mighty stump]

Damn put some respect on Aaron Traylor's name

[solid frigate]

i forgot the name-

also i am multitasking so i did not see it even its shown

anyways

Necrozma Dawn Wings time

[timber falcon]

I only watched like 2 games and both were rajan and the guy who won lol

I mean the guy who came 2nd

I bad with names

[solid frigate]

same

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/5b373fce3ce6e9da I have the team in game and ready to make a rental out of it, any issues?

[solid frigate]

it could work,=

[autumn vault]

Any complaints?

[harsh depot]

Feel like you'd get destroyed by Ice Rider

And no counterplay for Farigiraf setting up TR

[willow vault]

Welp, guess I can focus on my work more now

[craggy dagger]

trick room looks delicious here

[next stump]

taunt tsareena + kyogre makes farigarif’s life hell

[harsh depot]

Exactly what I was saying

[craggy dagger]

but otherwise it looks nice tbh

[willow vault]

Yes, Archaludon. I hate the Pokemon but other than my personal dislike of the mon the team looks good

[mighty stump]

Idk any setter that wants to eat Water Spout though

[harsh depot]

I still see a glaring weakness to Ice imho

[autumn vault]

Let me guess it traumatized you with constant +1 SpA and Defense

[craggy dagger]

can do wide guard tr though-
but that team looks fine-
it’s just if trick room goes up then it’s over

[next stump]

wide guard TR loses to taunt

[autumn vault]

What setter would want to eat a water spout?

[next stump]

it’s really hard to get TR up against tsareena kyogre stuff

[willow vault]

No, I just thought the design of the Pokemon could have been significantly better so I’ve been dissapointed since

[craggy dagger]

oh yeah

[next stump]

you basically need follow me, not rage powder

[autumn vault]

Looks good enough to me

[solid frigate]

I'll use Rapid Strike Urshifu for replacing Single Strike for now

[craggy dagger]

look fine though

also technically archa can do tr

[harsh depot]

Calyrex Ice Rider + Follow Me = Game Over. CIR typically has Trick Room and Focus Sash iirc

[craggy dagger]

sash cir-???

[willow vault]

Focus sash?

[craggy dagger]

that’s sash shadow rider-
and clear amulet ice rider

[harsh depot]

Oh, That's CSR. Ignore me, sorry

[craggy dagger]

it’s ok we all make mistakes

[willow vault]

It’s fine

[mighty stump]

Wonder how the addicts are managing

Another 2 days without Showdown

[craggy dagger]

what addict-
oh showdown

[little plank]

Bro I've had nothing but down time at work

[willow vault]

As an addict, I’ve diverted my attention to finishing the last part of the website for a project

[little plank]

No showdown is killing me

[harsh depot]

I'm still new to VGC and only realized recently that Ice Rider prefers the Clear Amulet. Sorry about that, still learning

[autumn vault]

As an addict, i set my eyes on making teams in game and Pokerogue

[willow vault]

And completing the Pokédex for Pokemon sword to be able to get a shiny regieleki

[craggy dagger]

it’s fine lilly
we all start somewhere and make lots of mistakes

[harsh depot]

I'm SOS chaining for Alolan Rattata out of demotivation for climbing the ladder in-game. Made it to Great Ball tier with Wolfe's team, so that's cool

[autumn vault]

Part of the process

[willow vault]

All good, I’ve made plenty worse mistakes before

[autumn vault]

Learning is important tfor getting better

[willow vault]

Learnings fun

[craggy dagger]

i’ve made mistakes but most of my mistakes are my idiot team building

[little plank]

I got to top 300 with my kyurum white team on ladder last night slow climb though

[willow vault]

Oh I’ve been there before, probably still am

[harsh depot]

I'm still struggling against other Calyrex Teams tbh

[willow vault]

What’s on your team?

[harsh depot]

But I have a handle on how to play around TR with Clefairy and After You

[craggy dagger]

clearly not uh-
as bad as me…

cries in choice specs harcanine

[willow vault]

I’m not exactly the model of normal but, I’m not insane

[harsh depot]

https://pokepast.es/1314bd159c873ada
It's just Wolfe's team with CSR and Clefairy

[willow vault]

Good team to start with

[craggy dagger]

well too bad i am

[willow vault]

I respect the honesty

[craggy dagger]

explosion wild charge choice band regieleki

[harsh depot]

Yeah. I wish I could I get someone to just watch and tell me what I'm doing wrong. I get super salty when I don't understand how I lost

[willow vault]

No

[willow vault]

Do you generally play on in game ladder or on showdown?

[harsh depot]

I can do either. I have a capture card for in-game, and I have the team on Showdown too

[willow vault]

Electroweb is my favourite eleki shenanigans

[willow vault]

Oh well I don’t know why to get replays from switch to here but with showdown you can just upload your replays and send them here and ask what you could have done better, we are always willing to help out

[craggy dagger]

what’s a good pokemon to blow up-

[harsh depot]

That's true, but showdown is down at the moment. I would do that otherwise

[autumn vault]

I reccomend that you use meta teams first and then when you get better at the game you can use some niche strats, you learn quicker with meta teams

[craggy dagger]

can also vc steam-

[harsh depot]

Stream in VC? Exactly what I was thinking

[craggy dagger]

that’s debatable-
for me i learned through niche cause i knew them better-
it helped build a sense of what to use with the tools i have (even tho the tools were garbage)-
then i tried to move onto meta and…
it kinda worked?
i’m still trying to use both riders, mirai, korai, pagos tbh

[harsh depot]

@craggy dagger Do you have time to watch a battle or 2 rq?

[craggy dagger]

hehehehehehehe

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Regieleki Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zacian: 195-231 (116.7 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[craggy dagger]

mhm i’m free though my phones abt to die so idk how long i’ll be able to watch

[harsh depot]

That's fair. Don't have to in that case.

[craggy dagger]

it’s fine it should last me an hour

[harsh depot]

Okay. I'll pop into a VC here

[solid frigate]

Can i join? wanna have some insights

[harsh depot]

Sure!

[spiral ridge]

Good luck Lilly

[tawdry urchin]

If I was in a doubles game and I was using clefairy and calyrex shadow and the oppodent was also using caly rex if clefairy uses after you on the calyrex would that make it garanteed that my calyrex attacks first before the oppodent's calyrex?

[mighty stump]

That's not how that works

After You only allows you to move first straight after the user if the user is faster than whatever you want to beat

[tawdry urchin]

So the move it's self dose nothing but next turn I'll be faster than the pokemon I used it on?

[dapper crag]

Move: After You

The target makes its move immediately after the user this turn, no matter the priority of its selected move. Fails if the target would have moved next anyway, or if the target already moved this turn.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[tawdry urchin]

yeah I'm loosing braincells but nvm because moves looks to be pretty useless

[timber falcon]

Golem

[charred saddle]

after you follows on speed and forces the after you target to move after the user

lets say

H lilligant in sun goes to 314 speed, partnered with torkoal goes to 31 speed

opposing side say had both 200 speed,

lilligant outspeeds all mon and gets after you off, getting it to torkoal and torkoal eruptions goes first even though its slower

it depends on the speed tier, reason why clef had after you is to ensure clefairy outspeeding opposing side under TR and making CSR moving first

also especially that follow me is prio move, so clef doesnt really care about speed, so it can basically just go as low speed as possible

[dapper crag]

Move: Photon Geyser

This move becomes a physical attack if the user's Attack is greater than its Special Attack, including stat stage changes. This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[tame sky]

Does somebody have a good zamazenta amoguss team?

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke (ID 817628066020065280)

[Message](#rental_teams message) in #rental_teams
Name: ShielDog
Code: 85NMTN
Format: VGC 2024 Regulation G
Paste: https://pokepast.es/30ef104bb8099f77
Notes: https://dollarmonke.wordpress.com/2024/05/04/jungles-treasure-shieldog/

Command triggered by dollarmonke. Message from · May 5, 2024, 5:57 AM

[molten oasis]

is showdown still down?

[strange fjord]

yeah

im like a few points away from top 500 on the bo1 ladder and then showdown went down

what am i supposed to do? play battle stadium?

[bold geode]

You want Chinese Showdown?

And no, it's not another China No 3 joke

[charred saddle]

stop making it weird everytime monke

[harsh depot]

Welp. Work is slow. Might stream more battles if anyone is interested in VC

[atomic mural]

I have never gotten to master ball tier in this game, but this team could be it

[harsh depot]

@solid frigate Sorry for the ping, but could you ask whoever has permissions on the VC to make room for one more please?

[atomic mural]

let me in too

[solid frigate]

i don't think they have the permissions

[harsh depot]

All good. I just made a new one. Gonna stream some battles

[atomic mural]

in the chat of that call jut put /claim

[foggy lodge]

I hate CTS so much

[solid frigate]

Double Tatsu

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-join-the-club-weve-got-jackets-jackets-club-gif-18326918

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 795: Pheromosa

Types

Bug/Fighting

Abilities

Beast Boost

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

71/137/37/137/37/151

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[mighty stump]

1-8 Stockholm

[strange fjord]

bruh

love the no guard sets lol

[mighty stump]

Dunno if Yotam memed it from the data

But it made me laugh

[strange fjord]

all 8 loses are from the team sheet error i bet

[solid frigate]

lol

[silver stratus]

I have a strategy that I feel like no one has really seen but could pop off

[next stump]

LOLA

LOL*

dude you gotta wonder the motivation behind signing up and paying for a regional + expenses for someone like that

[dull ibex]

vgc stream?

[next stump]

you’re spending bare minimum $200+ to use THAT team

[mighty stump]

Oh well

Idk you saw my short mental breakdown on not being able to compete in the circuit

The envy I feel

So honestly if someone wants to waste money and enter a regional to do that hey its your money

[silver stratus]

my idea is basically you have grafiai and slaking/regigigas and grafaiai uses doodle on a enemy pokemon getting rid of truant/slow start

making them very scary

[mighty stump]

Its been seen, everyone judged it as bad already

[silver stratus]

I feel like I can do stuff with it

[next stump]

you missed the boat on that strategy being usable by about 1.5 years

[silver stratus]

adding a little bit to it

[next stump]

Regigigas is a strictly better partner but even then, not great

[silver stratus]

I will see

also anyone here do showdown

I am looking for someone do to chill battles with

[harsh depot]

No. It's down at the moment. Also is your server name a meme?

[silver stratus]

no

[foggy lodge]

Someone has a rental that it's most CTS thing?

If you can't beat them join them

[silver stratus]

basically me and my friends were changing their name to things like: "free robux go to scam.gg" or "Free V-bucks go to scam.gg" so I did something with it

[harsh depot]

Right, so a meme. A joke.

[molten oasis]

chinese showdown?

[silver stratus]

yes

[bold geode]

China servers if I'm right
What everyone's doing

[silver stratus]

what does CTS stand for?

[molten oasis]

im good

[silver stratus]

just like normal friendly battles for fun

[molten oasis]

closed teamsheets

[harsh depot]

I honestly should've kicked that guy from VC at the start of the battle when he went up against me. Oh well.

[silver stratus]

I have a good national dex AG team

[solid frigate]

told ya

[strange fjord]

oh bruh, he stream sniped?

[harsh depot]

And then proceeded to brag about how Araquanid is "The goat"

[strange fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995578121845739520/1150048296249851934/AutoMemes.gif

why people stream sniping for wins. just practice lmao

[harsh depot]

I dunno. My fault for not removing him from VC. It is what it is

[solid frigate]

its not the GOAT at all

did not even kill once

[harsh depot]

And then proceeded to shout about he made the right call on High Horsepower to Tera Fire Rillaboom. Smh

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/gogoat-pokemon-grass-goat-bharal-gif-26484000

real goat

[harsh depot]

Besides that battle though, I won 1 and lost 1. And the one I lost was cause of bringing Tornadus as a lead when I should've brought something else

[solid frigate]

tru

[harsh depot]

But gdi I have a sour taste from that battle that I can't shake off

[solid frigate]

damn,wanna fight me for just sparring? i wanna see your playstyle

[harsh depot]

We can, sure. That would help me. Need a bit though to see how dead work is

[solid frigate]

sure

Link Code 658

[harsh depot]

One sec, let me grab my Switch

[harsh depot]

Searching

[atomic mural]

I literally didn’t look at your screen

[solid frigate]

same

[mighty stump]

I suggest just moving on from the issue

[harsh depot]

Agreed

[willow vault]

I like potato salad

[tough idol]

@harsh depot did you stream and I missed it

[atomic mural]

Good for you

[harsh depot]

Yeah. It's fine

[tough idol]

I meant damn I missed it lol

[harsh depot]

Ah. All good XD

[solid frigate]

tortol

[harsh depot]

Tortol is fun lol

[willow vault]

tortol

[harsh depot]

You didn't miss much. Had a funny match where a guy brought a H-Zorua as a lead

[bold geode]

Showdown's back online

[harsh depot]

Hurray!

[solid frigate]

NOICE

[harsh depot]

@solid frigate If you don't mind me asking, what did you mean by my playstyle? You said it was basic, but is that bad?

[solid frigate]

its not bad

its fine for using Tornshifu

[harsh depot]

What can I do to improve overall? Or is it more practice, like you guys were saying?

[solid frigate]

more practice

[harsh depot]

Understood. Appreciate it

[timber falcon]

Yippee

[solid frigate]

Guess the Topic of the Tier list

[willow vault]

Viability

[harsh depot]

Usage? I actually have no idea

[charred saddle]

bullet seed

[uncut cosmos]

how good legendaries are at a terapagos impression

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-horizons-autism-creature-gif-5994125894939564203

[willow vault]

[atomic mural]

a tier list to drive everybody insane

[willow vault]

Nope

[timber falcon]

bruh what am i seeing

[solid frigate]

guess the tier list topic

[timber falcon]

leech seed ogerpon and caly-ic

[timber falcon]

i gave up

[solid frigate]

F

[willow vault]

F

[willow vault]

[timber falcon]

lol i used ditto and stole his set

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124579823

[willow vault]

So that was someone else set

[timber falcon]

well the mon

[foggy lodge]

Showdown revived?

[timber falcon]

i think i like lugia and ditto + lando, rest of the team needs work

[timber falcon]

mhm#

[willow vault]

I didn’t even know that Calyrex got leech seed

[timber falcon]

me either

[solid frigate]

It

it's basically Calyrex+Horses moveset

[timber falcon]

bruh i cant connect to server again

is showdown just once again down

[solid frigate]

oml

[willow vault]

It was always gonna have some issues

[little plank]

Kyurum is such a beast lol he's going brrrrr

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124586614

Almost 1400 on my alt account testing urshifu and tornados

[abstract quest]

how u playing in Showdown?

[timber falcon]

it was up for a bit

[abstract quest]

Why is it down

[abstract quest]

Damn I missed it

https://pokepast.es/66bcbdf83f434105

[cyan smelt]

We should be able to see base tortol form in battle

[abstract quest]

it would be useless

but I need feedback for my team

[willow vault]

A totally very serious team that could definitely win a regional: https://pokepast.es/6d73aa461c0647ff

[willow vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124603239. I may have been battered the first 2 games but game 3 is all that matters

[willow vault]

Weirdly good matchup: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124604837 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124608916 thanks for the games @solid frigate

[gentle crag]

crephace has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[cyan smelt]

You might want to change telepathy on Palkia to pressure so you can get healed by pollen puff

[solid frigate]

he knows

[cyan smelt]

Telepathy is only good if you have ursaluna next to you spamming earthquake

[solid frigate]

mhm

basically what i do when i use Dialga

[cyan smelt]

Also isn't Palkia origin better because it's faster

[little plank]

Lmao

It don't get sny better then this https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124622027-jnez99qd85toqztdi1bq9wduy10fmy8pw

[timber falcon]

Pollen puff and telepathy wasn’t thought through I see lol

At least I know that’s what happens for sure

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 484: Palkia

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/120/100/150/120/100

Total

680

Other Formes

Palkia-Origin

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 484: Palkia-Origin

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/100/100/150/120/120

Total

680

Base Species

Palkia

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

Only really relevant difference is the item I’d say

Apart from speed

So yeah only reason to not use origin would be to use LO, but the item for palkia origin makes dragon and water moves multiplied by 1.2x right?

[dapper crag]

Item: Adamant Orb

If held by a Dialga, its Steel- and Dragon-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Item: Lustrous Orb

If held by a Palkia, its Water- and Dragon-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[timber falcon]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

tf

[timber falcon]

Looks accurate to me

[solid frigate]

not really,Caly Ice and Miraidon for me

[timber falcon]

I’m not sure if the Miraidon one, pretty sure people have gotten used to the one that won regional by now, at least I have

What were the top finishers in the recent regional?

[solid frigate]

Stockholm?

[timber falcon]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

Zamazenta,Terapagos and Caly Ice

i think like People should run CM Terapagos cuz its more consistent

[timber falcon]

Specs seems to do just find though

I think CM is for balance teams right

[solid frigate]

i just don't like Specs

[solid frigate]

mhm,and Specs for HO

[timber falcon]

Yea so 2 different play styles

[cyan smelt]

How does the specs sleep talk set work?

[timber falcon]

Amoongus answer

If u think they’re gonna spore, sleep talk

But Ofc there are inconsistencies

[solid frigate]

i mean,tbf.

I don't need it cuz I have Cresselia

plus i have 2 Mons to remove Sleep problems

[timber falcon]

Moongus answer is always needed tbf

[solid frigate]

and Even Tofu understand why i use Cresselia

yeah most of us are in VC Earlier

[cyan smelt]

Amogus

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gif-19075770

[timber falcon]

oh yeah showdown working again

so i have tried screens lugia

but what about veil?

[cyan smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-amoonguss-among-us-sus-whos-that-gif-20298355

[solid frigate]

that means its a snow team then

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

Drago hoi

[timber falcon]

i mean does it have to be fully snow

[solid frigate]

nah

[timber falcon]

i have 4 mons in mind

[solid frigate]

you can just ran A9+Lugia and Comfey+Incin

[timber falcon]

sabelye, lugia, A9 and lando is what im thinking rn actually

comfee will probabaly also be added,

[solid frigate]

at least i got 3 right

[cyan smelt]

I don't trust sableye that nasty gremlin

[timber falcon]

skill swap hehe

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

skill swap is for aura veil certainty btw

and maybe just messing up opponents

[little plank]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124634094 pretty good game for a restricted that I believe counters my team pretty hard

[solid frigate]

GIGA IMPACT DRAGONITE-

[timber falcon]

what was that game plan

[little plank]

Yeah really surprised that didn't do more to ninetails

He was almost 1500 on showdown so had to be some kind of strat lol

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

i mean no STAB, snow + veil

[strange fjord]

yooo showdown is back up

[solid frigate]

mhm

[cyan smelt]

Let's have a pizza party

[strange fjord]

i can finally break into top 500

[solid frigate]

yooo who ordered Meat Lovers Pizza

[strange fjord]

unless i choke lmao

[cyan smelt]

I can hopefully get to 1500s today

[strange fjord]

pizza party time

[timber falcon]

anyone have set for landorus?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-food-pepperoni-pizza-big-slice-of-pizza-gif-1347576143901457072

[solid frigate]

lemme grab it

[strange fjord]

just one slice

[cyan smelt]

Average American pizza slice

[solid frigate]

Landorus @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 52 HP / 20 Def / 252 SpA / 52 SpD / 132 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Sandsear Storm
• Sludge Bomb
• Earth Power
• Protect

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

where da speed

[solid frigate]

maybe Max Max Min is better

[little plank]

I'm so close with kyurum

[timber falcon]

there was this JPN one that i really lied, keep forgetting to save the set

[cyan smelt]

Why did I always think giga impact was a special move

[solid frigate]

its basically Physical Hyper Beam

[timber falcon]

this right here

[solid frigate]

i see

[cyan smelt]

What do you think of hyper beam on terapagos?

[timber falcon]

just use starstorm atp

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

better than missing a turn where they 100% are gonna go for the kill

[cyan smelt]

Hyper beam as an alternative in case they have wide guard

[solid frigate]

as a Terapagos Balance Team user, ehhhhhh-

[cyan smelt]

I guess you can always use single target starstorm

[solid frigate]

which is one of my favourite moves now

Versatile,Powerful and fun to use

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/580d262bd37d3aad any thoughts, for the last mon im thinking waterpon maybe

and im not sure abt ditto

[cyan smelt]

Wide guard mon for calyrex?

[timber falcon]

just abt to say i need a clyrex answer

[solid frigate]

both?

[cyan smelt]

Incin is always splashable

[solid frigate]

“The Existence of Calyrex is the Sole Reason Mienshao isn’t Flipping Burgers Right Now”

—Moxie Boosted,2024

I am addicted to that quote

[solid frigate]

yeah Incin is just too good againt it

unless Caly Ice with High Horsepower

[cyan smelt]

Caly ice and pelipper might be a problem for this team

[solid frigate]

insert Throwdat moment

[timber falcon]

and i lost the 1st game

i was using scar ditto and after copying their caly-ice in a winning postion, i press protect#

[solid frigate]

damn

[cyan smelt]

You know what you should add, smeargle with skill swap so you can skill swap moody onto Lugia

[timber falcon]

i dont think thats gonna be consistent

also the leads ninetails sabeleye is surprising me of how nice it is

even agaisnt caly-ice i have wisp and for shadow i got foul play

[cyan smelt]

Also against opposing weather you have a way to guarantee snow

[timber falcon]

mhm

[solid frigate]

Terapaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[timber falcon]

skill swap resets

but i still need a batter moongus answer

[strange fjord]

what about hisuian zoro

[timber falcon]

maybe lol, im going for a pretty niche OTS team

[strange fjord]

gotta mind games then in the bo3 lol

but actually why not Urshifu. looks like you're lacking physical offensive pressure

[solid frigate]

honestly both Urshifu seems fine

[strange fjord]

if they have a calm mind setter, it might be hard to break through

[timber falcon]

yeah i think a shifu worls

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2124648060 my best MU is zama teams

[strange fjord]

hooray! i contributed positively to teambuilding 🎉

[timber falcon]

especially the pelliper ones hehe

[solid frigate]

wait thats Keanu's Team lol

[timber falcon]

missing goltres i think

im seeing versions of his team commonly though

i think i need speed control

i think tw teams run through me

[solid frigate]

Keanu's Team would just Steamroll my Team lol

[timber falcon]

im still very curious abt latios

[strange fjord]

like the set or role on the team?

[solid frigate]

role

i just predict its a hybrid support Offensive?

[strange fjord]

Doesn't it basically OHKO all Amoongus with luster purge

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why i said Support+Offense

cuz Icy Wind Speed Control and Offense with Luster+Draco

[timber falcon]

ok so i booted ditto from the team

after 2 problems were found

[solid frigate]

Kick the Bucket

[timber falcon]

1. booster taunt flutter 2. just plain KO in ninetails

and now im looking at bolt

[timber falcon]

keeps dying

[solid frigate]

yeah Ditto is very Risky to play

[timber falcon]

indeed

[solid frigate]

i think i never used Ditto cuz i am afraid of losing stuff

and its just so inconsistent

[timber falcon]

a risky one indeed

also i think im cooking here

[solid frigate]

looks good

[timber falcon]

i like it

ill make a proper testing account on it tomr and start hunting for lugia

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna have to figure out what to do with people using fairy tera now

[timber falcon]

on which mon

[cyan smelt]

To counter zama

[timber falcon]

behemoth bash though

should do enough chip

[cyan smelt]

I prefer heavy slam

[timber falcon]

oh yeah forgot abt heavy slam

[cyan smelt]

Or I could just iron def body press even with resists

[solid frigate]

yeah like i have Huge problem against Zama

[cyan smelt]

You probably need lando on your team

[solid frigate]

tried,does not look well

[cyan smelt]

Oh damn

[strange fjord]

how heavy is shield dog

[solid frigate]

and Cresselia is one of the Amoonguss Sleep Denier

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned

Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

785kg (120 BP)

Height

2.9m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zamazenta

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Shield

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Red

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

ok damn

Terapagos gets destroyed by Heavy Slam as well

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Weight (Low Kick BP)

16kg (40 BP)

Height

0.3m

Introduced

Generation 9

Base Species

Terapagos

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar

Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

77kg (80 BP)

Height

1.7m

Introduced

Generation 9

Base Species

Terapagos

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

700kg

[cyan smelt]

Serebii says 210kg

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta

Type

Fighting

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Weight (Low Kick BP)

210kg (120 BP)

Height

2.9m

Introduced

Generation 8

Other Formes

Zamazenta-Crowned

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Red

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[solid frigate]

thats Hero Forme

Crowed Forme is 785

[harsh depot]

Anyone around to be in VC while I do more ladder climbing? All good if not

[solid frigate]

its 3:48am so maybe not

[harsh depot]

Ah, all good

[solid frigate]

also i am curious,how much Zacian Weight

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Weight (Low Kick BP)

110kg (100 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 112: Rhydon

Types

Ground/Rock

Abilities

Lightning Rod, Rock Head, Reckless (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/130/120/45/45/40

Total

485

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

355kg (120 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zacian

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Sword

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

SableyeBot version 4.27.1

[silk minnow]

Can someone make a competitive team using 2 pokemon I alr wanna use? The mons are Garchomp and Necrozma Dawn wings

[strange fjord]

damn who do i check weight

[solid frigate]

OK HOW IS ZACIAN LIKE HALF THE WEIGHT OF ZAMA

[cyan smelt]

Shields are heavier than swords

[solid frigate]

No like even the regular forms.

I understand why in Crowned forms

[silk minnow]

Anyone?

[solid frigate]

word of Advice,Dawn Wings and Garchomp does not mix well in a team.

and if its Singles we can't help

[silk minnow]

I would want both on a team but i prefer dawn wings over garchomp, also its gonna be doubles

[strange fjord]

its like mixing water and soda. one dilutes the other

[solid frigate]

at least Ribena Blackcurrant Sparkling does taste good lol

[solid frigate]

even then it does not fit well

[silk minnow]

(Ig just make a team around dawn wings .-.)

For doubles

[solid frigate]

Indeedee,BM Ursa and Single Strike Urshifu

[silk minnow]

Single strike is dark type one?

[solid frigate]

y e s

[silk minnow]

Ok

[cyan smelt]

Amoonguss

[solid frigate]

ya know i actually tried to use My Dawn Wings team and i like it a lot

[cyan smelt]

Nice to see it's good

[solid frigate]

finally have some use for Chi Yu and Wellspring Pon

https://pokepast.es/219915dabd811227

[silk minnow]

Btw just asking, but what about for a team of 6?

[cyan smelt]

Zama hates chi yu

[solid frigate]

thats why i bring it

[solid frigate]

the other 2 is kinda just think which MU you hate against

[silk minnow]

Ok

Im not a competitive genius so uh imma find the ones I hate and is it alr if u can find the counters .-.

[solid frigate]

sure

[silk minnow]

Where do I find MU