#competitive_discussion

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Fun fact: Zekrom in gen 8 UBER is A tier mostly because of Dragon Dance and with Zacian banned, it outclassed Kyurem-Black as well due to having a great MU into the defensive 3: Eternatus DM Necrozma and Yveltal

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when baxcalibur has Dragon Dance but not Garchomp

Man this proves Gameffreak don't care about them

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idk why tho

autumn vault
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Probably to pivot out against ground types

solid frigate
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Volt Switch does the exact same Thing+ Hadron Engine

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timber falcon
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yeah but it seems like thinking to far into it, just dont pivot into the ground type

timber falcon
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mhm

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Or tera a pokemon into ground

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A very simple solution

timber falcon
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heck u can press protect to scout

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unless u are choiced ofc]

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Imo specs miraidon is not the way to use it

timber falcon
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oh wait lmao

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i was looking at anything goesPikaLmao

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Just use Life Orb if you want damage, plus it gets protect to scout ground types

timber falcon
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much better

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and with specs it can't use protect

timber falcon
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specs is fine no?

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But specs is pretty nice

timber falcon
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look at this#

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1760s use it 40%

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Specs miraidon goes crazy

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timber falcon
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electric seed was NOT that good

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timber falcon
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then he dipped

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He is smart (maybe but we dont know) and it isn't god tier, opposite

timber falcon
solid frigate
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i might go for AV Miraidon but then again My Ente is the AV mon

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timber falcon
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as innovative as tr ogerpon?

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Let me use specs therian man

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No

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innovative like the above message

timber falcon
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timber falcon
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btw the idea behind pon was that i could tera when i needed speed, and room service tr when i needed to go slow

timber falcon
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there was someone else who i talked to it about, pretty sure it was nova

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timber falcon
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after she showed me her specs harc team PikaLmao

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timber falcon
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no those are ivs

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That was even wose btw

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jk

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chrome knot
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chrome knot
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cornerstone on psyspam was a key player

timber falcon
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no i meant grass ogerpon holding room service

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as the sweeper

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timber falcon
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it worked once actually, then i deleted the team

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i swear give Items to Pokemon that normally dont use just make it as a fucking meme

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I want to see it and die of cringe

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i swear when i first saw Room Service i just laugh my ass off

timber falcon
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it was quite a long time ago, she said it wasnt that bad but i guess ill never know untill i try

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i love you 3 specifically judging teams as if i dont vomit my eyes out seeing some of ur guys’ pastes

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I also died of cringe when Sour Cigar reccomended me tera ghost weezing

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i just exists

timber falcon
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ill admit some of my teams have been especially like, wtf

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but i can always rremake

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willow vault
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I never build bad teams what do you mean?

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I’m joking

timber falcon
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i think ive done pretty good in erasing the evidence of my bad teams

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unless i mention em again

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solid frigate
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i build team that just have stupid mistakes like giving AV to a Partingshot Incin

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Like this!

timber falcon
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NO

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or EV calcs wrong

timber falcon
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NOT THAT TEAMmochige

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solid frigate
timber falcon
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The search bar

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Oh no

timber falcon
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i didnt know this existed

solid frigate
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the only time i actually try something new is Terapagos Cresselia

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This is very cringe

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I stopped trusting Cigar for a day after that

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I am just waiting for something dumb I said to be pulled up

solid frigate
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lol

timber falcon
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good old delusion

mighty stump
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Generally

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It’s not bad

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What us? That’s too kind

timber falcon
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thanks u

mighty stump
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I’m just stubborn in insisting building of good habits cause I know overall it will just lead to more effective play/winning more

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and more enjoyment

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So more people stay in the hobby

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And that’s why we listen when you talk, atleast as best as we can

mighty stump
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Like i’m pretty sure people will get tired getting wailed on being stuck in an undesired rank

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Why do i remember this

mighty stump
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and at the root of it it’s cause I care about every player improving

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maybe a bit too much

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mighty stump
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Anyways finished HGSS for the first time

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mighty stump
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Well I forced an early Munchlax encounter straight after my starter so I could headcanon it as a partner

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mighty stump
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Snorlax at the end soloed Lance

willow vault
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Nice

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Nice

mighty stump
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I was level 51 so not even overleveled

timber falcon
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i generally didnt know every message ive sent here can be found with little effort, im flaberghasted

mighty stump
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Oh yeah speaking of messages

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I have a pretty decent memory so of you say something stupid enough I’ll probably remember

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mighty stump
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Dunno

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Nothign noteworthy

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Oh I’ll take it

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What is the stupidest thing i said?

timber falcon
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ive made some questionable takes lol

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mighty stump
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Zekrom countering Miraidon

zealous badger
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wat r good partner for shadowrider?

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In a way, it does

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mighty stump
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but

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A weird way

mighty stump
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Generaly I also don’t believe in bad players, the only bad players are the ones with attitude problems

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zealous badger
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thought fari and indeedee

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oh i did a dumbness

mighty stump
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So Incin/Urshi/Boom/Clefairy/Torn

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mighty stump
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or Chi/Flutter/Urshifu for HO

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Well with my team it allows Zekrom to counter it, but generally no it doesn't

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Not the first image

zealous badger
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thx

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No worries

timber falcon
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btw i think its about time i start cooking with palafin again

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solid frigate
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why did i always thought of that Moxie Boosted Quote where he said about Mienshao

mighty stump
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Lol

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Its not the first time someone made an alt to annoy me

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Although I just find it sad that’s what you’re putting your time into

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Afnan is just an asshole, i remember he tried to get me to not use amoonguss because he doesn't like it

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Which is very stupid

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i remeber and dont remeber this person?

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mighty stump
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Well

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No use bashing on someone

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mighty stump
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Who’s excited for Indy?

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Me

timber falcon
mighty stump
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Wolfe casting is jncredibly pog

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timber falcon
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indy = regional?

mighty stump
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I’m also excited about the f1 race tomorrow since our f1 society at uni are going out to watch the race at the pub together which will be fun

mighty stump
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dont think so highly of urself

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pls

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I still remember this

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bold geode
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Wow

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bold geode
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Imma throw hands Tofu
I'm not afraid like that one guy in Indy

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Kebab in the uk is so good

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gentle cragBOT
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bold geode
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But Amoongus job is to be an annoying fuck hole

mighty stump
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be more dedicated

mighty stump
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Im pretty international

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So ig im lucky jn that regard

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Like i think England is very beautiful but i swear in one trip that lasted 21 days half of it had rain

mighty stump
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Well I cant say much about England considering I was in Edinburgh for 90% of the timr

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mighty stump
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I miss Edinburgh winters

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a bit of it was Scotland

mighty stump
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My desk was right next to the window so those winter chills could breeze by

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And i hate bagpipes thanks to scotland

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Oh, I’m from the south so not much experience in northern England

mighty stump
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when you have a heaty biology it helps a lot

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timber falcon
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oh yeah i just remembered

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Ah I used to be from south-east now I live in south-west

mighty stump
timber falcon
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Tofu u never said what caly-s had to defeat pagos

mighty stump
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So i’m constantly warm

mighty stump
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Lol

willow vault
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That makes so sense

timber falcon
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OHHHH

bold geode
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Get some more Ying in ur life

dapper crag
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Move: Psyshock

Deals damage to the target based on its Defense instead of Special Defense.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

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mighty stump
autumn vault
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Get some Yin-Yang balance there

timber falcon
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thats why i am scared of Caly S teams running that

mighty stump
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Probablt my recommendation for CalyS teams would be like

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If you have Indeedee

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Astral/Psyshock/Expanding

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  • Protect
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Yeah yeah Yin Yang

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mighty stump
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If its non Indeedee id judt go for NPlot sets

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It also does great against ice rider

timber falcon
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for a team that has pelliper, should incin run knock over blitz?

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pelliper only appears for certain MUs so idk about overall

autumn vault
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You can make a case for knock off as the offensive move

timber falcon
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cause im running wisp, parting and FO

mighty stump
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Knock Off no Blitz is correct

timber falcon
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wisp is like, my ony caly-i answer

mighty stump
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If you’re running Wisp

timber falcon
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ok knock it is

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mighty stump
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Logic behind that is you’re losing Flare Blitz anyways, Wisp deals with stuff like Boom anyhow cause if you dont KO it, just cripple it

timber falcon
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then i think ive made a pretty good mirai team if i do say so myself

timber falcon
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wisp over blitz

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mighty stump
timber falcon
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😭

mighty stump
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Roster wise at least

timber falcon
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Miraidon and Incineroar?

mighty stump
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Set wise is wrong

timber falcon
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ill take that

mighty stump
timber falcon
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oh incin is bad here?

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bold geode
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We talked about Yin Yang, but what about the imbalance of Mike and Ike

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mighty stump
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Wellspring is like

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Ok

timber falcon
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wellspring almost carries my team lol

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Hearthflame?

mighty stump
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but that slot on a Mirai team is the flex slot

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mighty stump
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Again, i’m gonna reiterate what E-Terrain provides, and there is a certain core that gets it’s main weaknesses improved cause of it

timber falcon
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whats that

mighty stump
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Dunno, good luck

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Think back to what team archetypes get answered by sleep, common sleep users

timber falcon
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bundle?

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amoongus is a problem for me?

willow vault
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Ok so electric terrain blocks status and boost electric damage

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I heard Drago thinks Hearthflame is (probably) the best non-quark drive partner for miraidon

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I don't play Miraidon so i can't help

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dapper crag
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Move: Electric Terrain

For 5 turns, the terrain becomes Electric Terrain. During the effect, the power of Electric-type attacks made by grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 1.3 and grounded Pokemon cannot fall asleep; Pokemon already asleep do not wake up. Grounded Pokemon cannot become affected by Yawn or fall asleep from its effect. Camouflage transforms the user into an Electric type, Nature Power becomes Thunderbolt, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to cause paralysis. Fails if the current terrain is Electric Terrain.

Type

Electric

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

mighty stump
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Mmm

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Hit or miss

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I don’t think so personally

willow vault
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Interesting

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Hearthflame does OHKO rillaboom, a lot of other pokemon can do it but i guess it has that and FM

timber falcon
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i prefer waterpon for my groudon MU (biggest problem for me)

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timber falcon
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ok so i dont think i get whats wrong with the team lol

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can someone explain?

mighty stump
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Nothing wrong per se

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Im just trying to direct you towards what I think a correct miraidon team is

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timber falcon
mighty stump
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It sso correct its a meta call imo

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I copied Drago's Miraidon team so idk

mighty stump
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if you can figure it oit it means you have an understanding of the Reg F metagame and Reg G meta

timber falcon
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i made mine through trial and many errors

timber falcon
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timber falcon
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ah so a different approach with dealing woth grouson

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timber falcon
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and i gotta say. ive got no idea why i havent run shifu yet

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timber falcon
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torn shifu carries that MU

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water shifu at least

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pelipper alone carries that MU

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Weather Ball murders it without screens

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Water shifu + Pelipper is really strong into Groudon

mighty stump
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Well give it a shot

mighty stump
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And i have run into a bulk up + screens Groudon

timber falcon
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i think ill try ss shifu with the team + torn over pelliper

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Yeah water shifu goes brrr

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So maybe Tornadus Urshifu is the best possible counter to it

timber falcon
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but im still not sure of getting rid of waterpon

mighty stump
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I just dont think its as solid as the one in my head

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timber falcon
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oh yeah btw, does mirai not run max max?

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bold geode
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Ah ok
I'm not gonna say what Tofu's talking about, but he is right imo

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autumn vault
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Usually yes but there are cases to not go max max, personally i think max max isn't that good

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With specs just go through a bulky route

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Other ones can go through a max max set

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Atleast, what i think, it might be wrong and bad

mighty stump
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Another hjnt

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Mirai is max max choiced

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mighty stump
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what do choice mons like and are liable to

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Huh

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Now I’m confused

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mighty stump
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Ok

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Continue

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So follow me

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And also pokemon that resists the spammable stabs

mighty stump
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Would Follow Me help with Fake Out?

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timber falcon
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ok so i think after 1 game ive seen the benefits of having pelliper over torn

mighty stump
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Honestly

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You guys might see this team in the Regional

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It’s weak to dragon, fairy, ice and ground

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I mean corviknight resists all those types

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mighty stump
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Ok so then maybe we'll see it

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mighty stump
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So think about what I said previously about E-Terrain improving a matchup for a certain core

Combined with some help for choice mons

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Well, to start I’d assume grass wise it shouldn’t be rillaboom or amoongus as they both hurt the benefits of electric terrain

mighty stump
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Mhm

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Other good grass types would be the Ogerpons and maybe whimsicott?

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In terms of speed, it’s doesn’t like scarf mons, flutter or calyrex

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So whimsicott could fit well, gives speed control doesn’t harm your electric terrain

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Also an immunity to dragon and a resistance to both fairy and ground

mighty stump
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Mhm, but I would say none of them have any immediate matchups improved by E-Terrain existing

willow vault
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Ok

mighty stump
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E-Terrain is heavily benefitting your team in this scenario

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Probably a ghost type against fake out

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I guess sinischa could work, heals upon switching and immune to fake out

timber falcon
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oh yeah ive been meaning to ask

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You already said Incineroar works

mighty stump
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I would say that doesn’t stop Miraidon from getting FO’d

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Yes

mighty stump
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So the team is somewhat pivot heavy as well, good flow

timber falcon
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are there any improvements that can be made for my lunala team?

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V

mighty stump
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Depends

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How high can you get with it

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Lol

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How well is it doing

timber falcon
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pretty good

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Regenerator benefits from switching

timber falcon
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but i feel like im making many risks per battle

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mu wise

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like against pagos

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my only hope is to somehow get shifu agianst it without any interruptions

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or rilla

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I guess mienshao could make sense, give wide guard protection, good into Incineroar a primary fake out threat and benefits from switching with regenerator

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Also stops people from protecting in front of miraidon

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It also gets u-turn

timber falcon
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basically i need some help deciding MUs into certain restricteds

willow vault
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Have I made any progress so far Tofu?

mighty stump
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Farigiraf, blocks priority in so dumb

mighty stump
timber falcon
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I feel so dumb that took me too long

mighty stump
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But you got there

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So who cares

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mighty stump
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But theres a little bit missing

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I mentioned core

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So its not a singular mon

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I don’t know many cores I’ll be honest

mighty stump
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Think closely to what mons are associated with Farig

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Bloodmoon?

mighty stump
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Thats two

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If it’s Bloodmoon I may have ran into the team

mighty stump
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So why do you think Farigiraf Bloodmoon is improved by Terrain

willow vault
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Did I save the replay?

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mighty stump
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Correct

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Do you see the links now

willow vault
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Yeah, kinda

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A tr miraidon team, very interesting

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I just wanna work out the other two

mighty stump
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So you have an anti-priority mon enabling a powerful fast mode pivot that provides anti-sleep for the TR mode

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I’d assume it’s a Fire and Water type

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This team does not like water rn

timber falcon
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i almost got swept by snorlax lol

willow vault
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I meant grass not fire

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I did not save the replay, whyyyyyyyyyy. Now I have to work out the team

mighty stump
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Lol

timber falcon
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btw, when choosing mons to bring into a game i always bring the restrcited right?

mighty stump
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Ehh

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If you have a shitty matchup why would you

timber falcon
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idk just back up

mighty stump
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Think about it critically, if you have a set 4 that can deal with the opposing team that doesn't include the Restricted, you don't need the Restricted

willow vault
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I feel like it should just be torn + Urshifu from this point but I don’t think it is

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Is there 1 more trick room mon?

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I really want to add sinistcha, can hand out burns, solid in tr and outside of tr, and gives me fake out immunity + a grass type

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Is it gholdengo?

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A lot of ground weaknesses though

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Is it Clefairy + hearthflame, I found a Cybertron video with that in with Bloodmoon + farigiraf

timber falcon
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and at 1 win away from 1600s i get knocked down 20 elo GengarSad

willow vault
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Only other mon I see often is cresselia

junior blade
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Yo guys, whats the better, garchomp or axew

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I meant haxorous

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In what format?

timber falcon
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timber falcon
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calm mind farig

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and belly drum custap lax

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Yikes ots or cts?

timber falcon
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ofc he denied both ots

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mighty stump
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Depends

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Hands?

timber falcon
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man i dont get this

mighty stump
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I’m getting really stuck now

timber falcon
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1 loss and im falling down ladder

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mighty stump
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Well, I use Hands

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Lol

willow vault
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I’m really confused after you said hands was right

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If it’s not Ogerpon water I’m so confused

mighty stump
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Forbidden content

willow vault
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Oh, I got it

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gentle cragBOT
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All I have to say is interesting

timber falcon
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That isn’t the odd part to me

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I guess double fake out is nice

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Oh, oh hands does something very interesting

timber falcon
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1 win then 1600 come on

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Or I thought it did

timber falcon
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is this a known gimmick? or niche

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timber falcon
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aight well hopefully i can get the W

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lovely t1

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timber falcon
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my win con is to get pagos alone

willow vault
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You bring Urshifu?

timber falcon
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mhm

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Nice

timber falcon
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i think i losw

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i lost

knotty mirage
timber falcon
knotty mirage
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Ah okay

forest arrow
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Indianapolis is starting for those that want to watch

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timber falcon
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and now ive lost to a smeargle-caly-s

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1600 is a hike man

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I’m not even in 1200 so, I can’t judge

timber falcon
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really? i assumed u were about 1300-1400

willow vault
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Not in this reg

timber falcon
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oh yeah reg G

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anyways ima take a break before i go insane

willow vault
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1170 in bo1 and 1120 in bo3

timber falcon
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bo1 is hell the higher the ladder i swear

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not even meta, its the niche

smoky hawk
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Indianapolis is starting

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With the new reg. This will be interesting.

forest arrow
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Totally, gonna be a good watch

bold geode
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There he is

forest arrow
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Aaron and Wolfe are casters

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Gonna be a good day

grizzled bronze
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goats

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Welp I got taunted by a ting-lu thoroughly confused

bold geode
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DAYUM

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OMG HONSE V HONSE

dusty gate
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Honse off. yesyesyesyes

forest arrow
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BOLT VARIANT CALY

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that’s my team

bold geode
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@mighty stump do you know if they showed the top 12 usage?

mighty stump
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Hasn';t even started

forest arrow
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They did not

bold geode
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But not usage yet

forest arrow
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Match about to start

mighty stump
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Like we're first match in

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lol

forest arrow
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lmao

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Why you ignoring me babe

bold geode
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Yeah but usually they show that before first match, but I guess just off the rip

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foggy lodge
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Nooooo horses battle

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The 252+ Attack Glacial Lance

forest arrow
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Protect both

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smoky hawk
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This is amazing. New reg with restricteds and they got my 2 favorite people in the scene commentating.

knotty mirage
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Is this the first time wolfie commentate on regional

mighty stump
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Yep

knotty mirage
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Huh neat

solid frigate
willow vault
#

You missed quite a bit

smoky hawk
#

We will see Caly as the top restricted, won't we?

solid frigate
willow vault
knotty mirage
#

Definitely

smoky hawk
#

I want to see Caly-ice TR

forest arrow
#

Pelipper rider stonks

#

lol

#

Aaron saying must be nice to not missing WillOWisp

mighty stump
#

Lol

forest arrow
#

I felt that in my bones

mighty stump
#

Quality casting

forest arrow
#

lol

solid frigate
#

flashback moment of him suffering

forest arrow
#

Oh I know lol

#

I have his luck when it comes to accuracy moves

solid frigate
#

kinda same for me,But strangely only Apply to Bleakwind

#

others does not miss that often

forest arrow
#

Day 1 ranked ladder I missed 7/8 Draco’s

solid frigate
#

well except for OHKO moves those don't count

bold geode
#

Holy fuch Caly I

smoky hawk
#

I'll go many games without missing a move and then I'll play several games back to back where I miss almost everything

solid frigate
forest arrow
forest arrow
solid frigate
#

like lucky in a bad way

forest arrow
solid frigate
#

Idk the logic is kinda messed up

forest arrow
#

No I get you, I’m just messing with you lol

solid frigate
#

lol

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i would consider myself lucky if i missed 3 times in a row

forest arrow
#

To each their own

#

I’d be like whyyyy

solid frigate
#

lol true that would be my reaction

#

i just laugh at someone who use +1 Life Orb Crit Expanding Force Caly S just can't OHKO Stellar Terapagos in full health

Abysmal Crit moment

knotty mirage
#

That was really long match with the constant switch in

bold geode
#

I'm just saying
Let's go Zamazenta

#

That turn hurt Dillon some

mighty stump
#

Bro can't read omg

#

Dylan

#

Not Dillon

forest arrow
#

lol

bold geode
#

Fuck I spelt wrong

#

But I'm guessing Dylan turn 1 was covering a Knock Off coming from Incin into Caly Shadow but like
Even then, you Tera Ghost it

knotty mirage
#

Caly ice win nice

bold geode
#

Wolfe with obvious wisdom yet again

forest arrow
#

The boys looking spiffy today

bold geode
#

Fuck
Don't mention Gholdengo

forest arrow
#

lol

solid frigate
smoky hawk
#

Did Zee's pelipper have wide guard?

knotty mirage
#

I think i like this reg alot less people bringing urshi water counter

forest arrow
#

Yeah

knotty mirage
#

I can go back to old times sweeping with urshi torn again

smoky hawk
#

Wide guard is great in this reg

forest arrow
#

Pelipper best birb

solid frigate
mighty stump
knotty mirage
#

I mean i have easier time probably because most of my openent immediately open with caly shadow counter

forest arrow
smoky hawk
#

All incins should carry a dark dmg move now

solid frigate
smoky hawk
#

Probably flare Blitz as well

forest arrow
#

I need a peli hot tub

solid frigate
#

9% i ain't complaining

warped mason
#

Lets goooo ogre officially beating the mid allegations

bold geode
forest arrow
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Actually a little surprised Groudon made it

warped mason
#

Yea groudon is surprising af

#

Actually miraidon is more surprising

bold geode
#

Nah

solid frigate
#

Miraidon beating Mid Allegation right?

warped mason
#

Did people finally find the 6 that make miraidon good?

bold geode
#

Miraidon don't surprise me

forest arrow
#

Miraidon is good .. however forcing quark drive is not

warped mason
#

Miraidon's allegations were unfair, when most of the teams were poorly constructed

mighty stump
#

Lol

#

Well I showed some people what a correct Miraidon team looks like

forest arrow
#

^

solid frigate
willow vault
mighty stump
#

YOTAM

#

Yotam's using my Rayquaza for his team

bold geode
#

Huh

solid frigate
mighty stump
knotty mirage
# forest arrow

Feel weird seeing zamazenta got top 8 usage and not zacian especially after experiencing swsh restricted

bold geode
#

Oh Yotam 3-0

#

Crazy

mighty stump
#

HES ON STREAM

#

LETS GO

smoky hawk
#

Yotam on stream!

mighty stump
#

THAT'S MY RAYQUAZA

bold geode
#

Oh shit

bold geode
mighty stump
#

oBV

smoky hawk
#

Rayquaza??!!

#

This will be interesting

dusty gate
#

LETSGO Space snek.

mighty stump
#

Yotam and me have agreed about Rayquaza being a decent metacall

forest arrow
#

Let’s go Yotam😭

#

I see he didn’t opt for Caly

mighty stump
#

He's vibing he said

#

Plus we're working on Mirai

forest arrow
#

Good stuff

#

He’s facing yet another Pelipper Rider team lol bolt variant

mighty stump
#

Yotam also has a cool secret

smoky hawk
#

Hmm should Stephen even bring pelipper?

#

With rayquaza's air lock

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Damn unfortunate crit

foggy lodge
#

Oh shit, i didn't want to respond to the message

misty helm
#

is shield doggo actually viable due to body press

foggy lodge
#

But why not fake out shadow ball to Urshifu??

autumn vault
mighty stump
#

HUGE PREDICT

forest arrow
#

That’s a sleepy kitty lol

charred saddle
#

knockoff to spore goggles

#

crazy

forest arrow
#

Come on Ray

smoky hawk
#

Are incins and amoonguss even using berries anymore? Rocky helmet/goggles instead, right?

autumn vault
forest arrow
#

It’s still there

mighty stump
#

THATS MY RAYQUAZA ON STREAAAAAAAM

forest arrow
#

I run sitrus on mh amoongus

forest arrow
autumn vault
forest arrow
#

Come on Ray

smoky hawk
bold geode
forest arrow
#

Letsss gooo

mighty stump
bold geode
foggy lodge
#

fck

misty helm
#

can shield doggo come up with a niche in the current meta or does it function worse due to the lowered base stat total and new set of mons

autumn vault
#

Not niche

#

Not completely meta, but not niche

foggy lodge
#

WHAT

bold geode
mighty stump
#

pog miss

smoky hawk
charred saddle
#

POGGGGG

forest arrow
#

DRACO MISSS

charred saddle
#

HOLY SHIT

autumn vault
#

Damn

foggy lodge
#

Why the Ray doesn't have max pps?

charred saddle
#

damn the CC does 50% hurst

misty helm
mighty stump
#

Cause Yotam forgor to PP Up

#

Lol

dusty gate
bold geode
dusty gate
#

I presume they can't change that.

autumn vault
#

I usually don't PP up moves with more than 10 accuracy

charred saddle
#

the crit hurts tho

dusty gate
#

Yeahhh

bold geode
smoky hawk
#

Same. I only PP up moves with 5PP

warped mason
#

Unfortunate

#

Interesting that he's not bringing pao

charred saddle
#

hahah the commentator

#

"surely it wont crit me twice right"

#

-someone out there

misty helm
#

so if you were building a set for shield dog would it be better to run max defense or max attack

forest arrow
#

Max hp, def raising nature with like 156-172 def

#

Rest is dumped into SpD

misty helm
#

okay so mix of defense special defense and hp is better than attack and speed then

smoky hawk
#

Those 2 aren't dying to a +2 MiR

#

That's rough

charred saddle
#

this commentator KEKWCRY

misty helm
#

and do I have to give it iron defense or is dauntless shield enough

foggy lodge
#

The water coming out of Calyrex's head lmao

forest arrow
#

Last move is either Behemoth Bash/Heavy slam

misty helm
#

I would say behemoth bash would more reliably be 100 base power

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned
Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Base Species

Zamazenta

foggy lodge
#

That tclap lmao

forest arrow
#

Your choice, @bold geode would be better insight than me on Zama

misty helm
#

because I got this mystery gift and I wanted zamazenta to be good this gen

#

how did I get the picture let's just say I let a friend barrow it for the photo

#

union circle

strange fjord
#

if you share it in a union circle. anyone can view it if you go to the union circle and click on the member who shared it

#

you can then set it as a profile picture or screenshot it to save as a regular picture

charred saddle
#

insane read

smoky hawk
#

Good switch

mighty stump
#

LETS GOOOOO

forest arrow
#

LETS GO YOTAMMM

charred saddle
#

HELL YEAH

smoky hawk
#

G3!

mighty stump
#

click

#

click the SD

#

Click the SD

#

LMaooo

#

DONT GET CRIt

forest arrow
#

Do it

mighty stump
#

LETS GOOO

#

HAHAHAHA

charred saddle
forest arrow
#

Yotam the goat

charred saddle
#

AHHAHAHAHAHAH

mighty stump
#

That was technically the correct play ngl cause it guarantees the KO

#

Scary

smoky hawk
#

Yotam is playing with his food

mighty stump
#

Lmaoo

charred saddle
#

yeah, they prob also thought that ascent to fighting both cats will end up on yotam win

warped mason
#

Favorite images in vgc

misty helm
#

basically my friend encountered a Pokemon using the two dogs and that I let him barrow for the shoot and using the union circle I was able to get a picture of the zamazenta and zacian in their crowned forms while another person used them in battle

mighty stump
#

My Rayquaza be tuff

#

Put some respect on HIS NAME

charred saddle
#

damn fun game

misty helm
foggy lodge
#

istg if a crit Knock Off came

mighty stump
#

lmao

warped mason
#

Was dragon accent not better there instead of swords dance to play around thw crit?

foggy lodge
#

👆

warped mason
#

Pretty sure his incin would have won the 1v1

foggy lodge
#

Dragon Ascent probably didn't pick up the KO but his Inci would win the 1v1

warped mason
#

I respect the swords dance lowkey. One shotting incin gives me life.

foggy lodge
#

Nah i don't

misty helm
#

also I have a good question why have I managed to avoid almost all the Landurus-T's

foggy lodge
#

It would be a perfect way to throw an already won game

smoky hawk
#

Urshifu is locked into surging strikes now

#

Against a water type and dragon type

forest arrow
#

Huge turn 1

misty helm
#

it's been non existent on the battle stadium singles

charred saddle
#

dude yotam read every turn so nicely

#

crazy

foggy lodge
#

okay good play

bold geode
warped mason
#

I don't see how yotam wins here

#

Stephen bringing in caly ice kinda screwed him

smoky hawk
#

It's way too early to call the game

foggy lodge
#

Switch Raging and protect Ray

#

hmmmmmm

warped mason
#

Raging would have died

foggy lodge
#

It's better just sacrifice it

misty helm
foggy lodge
#

Outclassed by other intimidate users and Landorus-Incarnate

bold geode
misty helm
#

so the incinaroar has basically replaced it

bold geode
#

Basically

foggy lodge
#

Extreme Clap

warped mason
#

No way stephen plays into double priority

mighty stump
#

GGs

charred saddle
#

welp gg

foggy lodge
#

It's joever

mighty stump
#

WP Yotam

rustic mountain
#

🫡 good set

smoky hawk
#

What a shame

mighty stump
#

the GOAT

bold geode
#

Valiant effort Grandpa

forest arrow
#

Ggs wp gave Ray a great showing

tough idol
#

3-1 the shows not over yet

warped mason
#

Aight someone ping me when there's an ogre on stream

rustic mountain
#

no

warped mason
#

yes

misty helm
#

are restricted Pokemon back into play now with the new rule set

forest arrow
#

Just meant on stream, def still not over

gentle delta
#

I was torn who to root for

#

Yotam is a friend but Stephen is on a team im a big fan of and wanna see succeed

rustic mountain
bold geode
#

We root for Yotam always
Let's go Yotam

rustic mountain
smoky hawk
#

I think Yotam will still make day 2

misty helm
bold geode
#

Also if Yotam wins with Rayquaza, Zamazenta stonks too so

rustic mountain
#

oof

bold geode
#

If Zamazenta has one fan, it's me

rustic mountain
#

haha ray looked impressive at times

tardy cradle
#

gg Yotam LarrySigh

bold geode
#

Aight ping for next round plz

knotty briar
#

Just made it to master ball tier with this team!

smoky hawk
knotty briar
#

Cress survived tera ghost caly-shadow astral barrage

smoky hawk
#

That's good to know

knotty briar
#

I'm assuming it wasn't specs

smoky hawk
#

Is there any pokemon with scarier stats than a Caly Ice in TR?

knotty briar
#

These are the evs I went with

forest arrow
#

I’d prob opt for Farig/Bloodmoon over cressluna but looks good

knotty briar
#

Cress lunar blessing was insane support

foggy lodge
#

It seems good

#

It can heal Calyrex from burns

knotty briar
#

15 wins and 9 losses overall

#

Not great but it still did well

knotty briar
mighty stump
#

Yotam using my Ray on stream is the closest ill get to being on stream ngl

forest arrow
#

Amoongus evs are funny tho

mighty stump
forest arrow
#

LMAO

mighty stump
#

YOOO DILLON IS 4-0

#

LETS GOOO

#

LUGIA ON STREAM?

#

TURTLE OPN STREAM?

forest arrow
#

I think Chance is Spicy?

mighty stump
#

No it isn't

#

Spicy is blonde

bold geode
#

THE APE IS BACK

forest arrow
#

Oop my fault

mighty stump
#

Lmao my Comfey Sableye shit

bold geode
#

Bro deadass replaced Goltres for Lugia

forest arrow
#

Light ball?

#

Should it be light clay?

mighty stump
#

METEOR BEAM TERAPAGOS ON STREAM LETS GO

warped mason
#

Lugia PogHypers

forest arrow
#

Light ball Sableye the new tech lol

warped mason
#

Lugia undefeated

#

Wait huh

#

Does sableye get trick or something?

forest arrow
#

No it’s an error I believe

mighty stump
#

Its Light Clay

#

Lol

#

Wtf is that Sableye on

forest arrow
#

Yeah I assumed so, they never get it right on screen lol

strange fjord
#

light ball fling for damage and para... truuust its totally not an error

#

(its an error)

autumn vault
mighty stump
#

The GOAT is now on the field

forest arrow
#

So far pretty standard stuff, Yotam is running a cool Ray team tho that gave CalyI a run for its money

#

Was so close

mighty stump
#

great call

#

HUGE

forest arrow
#

Gosh dude that’s insane damage

foggy lodge
#

Yeah the Chi-Yu broke multiscale

mighty stump
#

Right now I think Terapagos is like the 3rd/4th strongest Restricted rn

#

Its just so solid

forest arrow
#

still had +1 sp def and lugia is bulky, I know multiscale was gone

mighty stump
#

and Light Screen

#

But BoR was on the field as well

#

Its a pretty huge cut since its %

forest arrow
#

Very solid, Tyo’s set is really nice

mighty stump
#

Wow

#

Wowwww

#

Been running PHerb Terapagos since day 1

#

Traitor

forest arrow
#

I’m sorry😭

mighty stump
#

Urshifu

#

Huh

forest arrow
#

I didn’t know lol

mighty stump
#

WOW THAT MEANS YOU DONT READ MY BLOG

#

WOWWWWWW

#

jk idrc

#

Interesting play

forest arrow
#

No I’ve kept blog open lol, haven’t kept my eye on terap til recently and that totally crossed my mind

mighty stump
#

Is it cux u hate me

#

Would you still love me if I was a worm

forest arrow
#

No papa I promise I’m just dumb rn it’s still early 😭

bold geode
forest arrow
#

If you’re a worm I’m a worm 🥹

mighty stump
#

oof

#

Sad miss

#

That would have taken Chi-Yu out

#

I think Comfey switch in here would be correct

#

EP into Chi-Yu

#

DKiss threatens Urshifu later

#

Preserves FO later

bold geode
#

Tofu, if even your mother couldn't love that face, how can I

mighty stump
#

I don't mind, your mother did all the loving for me

forest arrow
#

LMAO

warped mason
#

Why is aeroblast not 100% accurate while astral barrage is

mighty stump
#

Jesus

#

Terapagos against the world

#

SE

#

Lmao

#

ok

whole ibex
#

surprise anyone using Luiga

#

esp when tera turtle exists

forest arrow
#

Double protect

#

No screens tho

bold geode
mighty stump
#

I mean, preference, coverage, use of a proper defensive tera

#

BRO WHAT IS THIS RNG LOL

forest arrow
#

This is Throw RNG

mighty stump
#

GC RNG

forest arrow
#

Tommy is me Rn

bold geode
#

Tofu can I just say
I despise vending machines

mighty stump
#

Thank you for sharing with the class

bold geode
#

You're welcome

dusty gate
bold geode
#

But like
I swear how is it so hard to put cash in the fucking machine when said machine is designed to take your cash

whole ibex
#

I thought it was completely outclassed by terapagos

bold geode
#

What is Lugia's

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 249: Lugia
Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/90/130/90/154/110

Total

680

#
Pokémon No. 249: Lugia
Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/90/130/90/154/110

Total

680

forest arrow
#

Lugia is bulky

bold geode
#

Fuck my bad, laggy Discord mobile

#

Psychic/Flying

#

Why'd I think it was Dragon?

forest arrow
#

It should be Psychic/Water, still bugs me to this day that it isn’t

#

like how can you be a Pokémon of the sea but not be water type

mighty stump
#

Because

#

It's Moon related

bold geode
#

Some horoscope shit?

junior blade
#

What item for lycanroc and what pokemon could i add?

forest arrow
#

Damn Lugia won, crazy

mighty stump
# bold geode Some horoscope shit?

Over A year Ago I started Researching the orgins of johto, what I found blew me away. this information has never been made public by Pokemon, But As I began to dissect these games, Everything began to connect. I'ts been 20 years now, We will likely never get a definitive Answer. But this is without a doubt the closest we have come.

Thank you ❤️...

▶ Play video
forest arrow
#

I just put it in my watch later, I’m intrigued because I was a Lugia Stan as a kid

bold geode
junior blade
#

What was lugias moveset and item?

mighty stump
#

Covert Cloak/Aeroblast/EP/CM/Protect

junior blade
#

Ty

solid frigate
#

what did i miss

dusty gate
#

Eepy Groudon.

solid frigate
#

Rest Groudon???