#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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trick room has -6 priroity making it go last

queen monolith
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That doesn’t explain it

molten oasis
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then vikavolt is naturally slower than farigiraf

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meaning it was min speed and undersped your farigiraf

queen monolith
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But he went before me first round.

molten oasis
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because trick room goes very last

queen monolith
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Then again in trick room

charred saddle
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they meant that they TR then after that vika moves first

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not the turn they clicked TR

molten oasis
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im saying after

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he's saying first turn, he clicked tr and went last

queen monolith
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Turn 2 they went first after the room went up.

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 738: Vikavolt
Types

Bug/Electric

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

77/70/90/145/75/43

Total

500

Other Formes

Vikavolt-Totem

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molten oasis
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its slower than fari

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meaning its faster in tr

dapper crag
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Move: Trick Room

For 5 turns, the Speed of every Pokemon is recalculated for the purposes of determining turn order. During the effect, each Pokemon's Speed is considered to be (10000 - its normal Speed), and if this value is greater than 8191, 8192 is subtracted from it. If this move is used during the effect, the effect ends.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

5 (8)

Priority

-7

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

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queen monolith
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Vikavolt has a lower base speed?!

molten oasis
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yes

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so it sounds more like a lack of information, not a hacker

queen monolith
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I thought it was fast

molten oasis
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it should

charred saddle
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huh, u said that "his vikavolt, which had moved before me. After the trick room was up, he moved before me again"

solid frigate
charred saddle
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the vikavolt move first, then TR and again move first

queen monolith
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I thought he had a higher base speed

molten oasis
charred saddle
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thats why i specified prio, tailwind and speed control

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dude. the way he said it is vikavolt moving first in TR and NON tr

molten oasis
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...

molten oasis
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cuz now im confused again

charred saddle
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.

molten oasis
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"got a trick room set up against his vikavolt, which had moved before me" definetly means the turn BEFORE tr went up

charred saddle
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which had moved before me --> implying moving first in non tr

then after TR was up, he moved before me AGAIN --> implying still moving first IN TR

queen monolith
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I did say he went before me after tr went up also

molten oasis
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because vikavolt is slower than farigiraf

queen monolith
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I thought he was fast. He’s literally a lightning bug essentially

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But base 43?!

molten oasis
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gen 7 loved their slow guys for some reason

solid frigate
queen monolith
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How fast is a toedscruel?

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 949: Toedscruel
Types

Ground/Grass

Abilities

Mycelium Might

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/70/65/80/120/100

Total

515

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molten oasis
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its ability makes every status move -1 priority i believe

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1004: Chi-Yu
Types

Dark/Fire

Abilities

Beads of Ruin

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/80/80/135/120/100

Total

570

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queen monolith
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Damn. I lost a speed tie to a toedscruel

dapper crag
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Ability: Mycelium Might

This Pokemon's Status moves ignore certain Abilities of other Pokemon, and go last among Pokemon using the same or greater priority moves.

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solid frigate
rustic mountain
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doesnt even need it lmao

molten oasis
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just makes it -8 priority

solid frigate
molten oasis
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it got spore so

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it balanced that and prevented a fast spore user

charred saddle
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prog did a team featuring it with galarian wheezing + slaking

rustic mountain
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i played one w/ weezing it was scarfed spore

charred saddle
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the gas made it into a very fast spore user

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ye ye its interesting

solid frigate
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oh yeah i forgot wheezing does that

pastel blade
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So is terapagos and ogrepon gonna fall off the face of the earth after this gen? Cause idk how they’re gonna work without tera

queen monolith
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I wanna use a yanmega. But I don’t know the best Tera type for it

next stump
solid frigate
solid frigate
charred saddle
next stump
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i need walking wake for the regional and didn’t want to trade for a hacked one

charred saddle
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oh dillon u need one? i had a lot from my alts got like 10

molten oasis
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oh yay i can go get an iron leaves i probably wont use

solid frigate
next stump
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i’ll be good with this event but i appreciate the offer

charred saddle
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but if its like a return im gonna assume still 1 per account

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since if u did caught the WW and IL in the first run, im pretty sure u cant catch it again at the second run

solid frigate
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yeah

charred saddle
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so if u do have them in the account, still no catch in the 3rd

well they might change but still

molten oasis
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im kinda curious how they'll be catchable in the future

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all of the paradox

solid frigate
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idek

rustic mountain
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finally a good event for the people who have missed em prior, would be better if we could get em shiny

solid frigate
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my laptop is still 81% whole day without Charging

rustic mountain
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grats

queen monolith
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What’s the best defensive Tera for a yanmega?

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 469: Yanmega
Types

Bug/Flying

Abilities

Speed Boost, Tinted Lens, Frisk (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

86/76/86/116/56/95

Total

515

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rustic mountain
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yanmega seems tough to use, gl

charred saddle
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why steel?

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fire?

rustic mountain
solid frigate
rustic mountain
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they r saying steel still makes u weak to fire

charred saddle
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then why not rock? both resists

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just doesnt make a lot of sense foing to like steel

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ur just opening weakness to fighting and ground now

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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well any tera opens up a weakness to other things

charred saddle
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i mean as in u lose one to open to another more common moves

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rock isnt really seen now, lack of rock slides

rustic mountain
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me meteor beaming u 🫡

charred saddle
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i mean then again its a hard mon to use

charred saddle
solid frigate
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if its Steel then you have to risk against Incin,Gouging,Ogerpon and other fire types, if its Rock then Urshifu and Ogerpon exist

rustic mountain
# charred saddle i mean as in u lose one to open to another more common moves

again, that happens w/ tera. thatd b like saying dont run tera grass or fire cuz it opens u up to other common weaknesses while those have both been strong tera types on certain mons. its not always about picking things w/ the least amount of weaknesses otherwise everything would be fairy, electric, poison etc

solid frigate
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Basically you still weak to Ogeprons

charred saddle
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i mean if ur just flipping weaknesses then okay ig, just that im more intrigued on why choosing steel

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since theres a lott of good defensive typing to choose from still

queen monolith
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So rock Tera would be best for yanmega?

charred saddle
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nono, thats just me using an example

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tbf i never played with yanmega or used one

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didnt know how it would work in the game too

foggy lodge
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Rock is a bad tera in general

rustic mountain
# charred saddle thats true, but what i mean is like just saying the tera to say A doesnt really ...

oh yea im not justifying steel specifically, i already said the overlapping weakness to fire is enough reason to not run it imo (different for more offensive mons using a type they already have to boost their damage output) but i jus mean overall its more about how u position and leverage the tera vs tera weakness cause thats going to happen for most tera types. ofc tera types need to have thought put into them but its a trade off. im going from x weakness to y weakness

charred saddle
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ye ye

knotty mirage
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Can galarian moltress be good agains't mienshao and caly shadow combo ?

solid frigate
knotty mirage
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Oh because that's the only dark type i can currently think off that will just not drop dead too close combat from mienshao

charred saddle
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quite a nice idea ye

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also deters intim user

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and wins against rilla

foggy lodge
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Goltres + Comfey

charred saddle
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since i think people like to go into rilla incin nowadays

foggy lodge
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Comfey is probably Galarian Moltres's best friend

charred saddle
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goodluck

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 146: Moltres-Galar
Types

Dark/Flying

Abilities

Berserk

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/85/90/100/125/90

Total

580

Base Species

Moltres

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foggy lodge
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why the 85 attack stat pleaseeeee

knotty mirage
cyan smelt
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Galar Moltres is the closest thing we've got to yveltal

knotty mirage
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Yeah yveltal is pretty much caly shadow best check just sad it's not on SV

solid frigate
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actually not as severe

foggy lodge
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I hate that

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And also why are minor legendaries's stats so inconsisteng

solid frigate
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idk-

foggy lodge
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Like the birds have 580

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 380: Latias
Types

Dragon/Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/80/90/110/130/110

Total

600

Other Formes

Latias-Mega

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foggy lodge
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Latias, Latios and Lando have 600

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 245: Suicune
Type

Water

Abilities

Pressure, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/75/115/90/115/85

Total

580

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Pokémon No. 1017: Ogerpon
Type

Grass

Abilities

Defiant

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/84/60/96/110

Total

550

Other Formes

Ogerpon-Wellspring, Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Ogerpon-Cornerstone, Ogerpon-Teal-Tera, Ogerpon-Wellspring-Tera, Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera, Ogerpon-Cornerstone-Tera

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foggy lodge
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Lmao

solid frigate
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Beasts has 580

foggy lodge
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I was talking in another server and someone posted a team with Kyogre Urshifu Rapid strike and Ogerpon-wellspring

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And i told him to drop Ogerpon-Wellspring for Sinistcha because the team also had an Archaludon and someone said it's bad because Sinistcha can't redirect Rillaboom

solid frigate
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yep Raging Bolt Heaven

foggy lodge
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I also told him that

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But the funniest thing was the "Rillaboom is better because it has fake out"

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since Sinistcha has been a staple in Archaludon teams

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Just put a farig on there to stop thunder clap and fake out

foggy lodge
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Rillaboom is good but saying is better just because it has fake out is funny

solid frigate
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lol

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Rillaboom be like after Grassy Terrain

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foggy lodge
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And the funniest thing about that guy was saying is bad because you can't redirect Rillaboom

solid frigate
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yeah

molten oasis
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rilla go bonk

bold geode
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Someone mention

molten oasis
bold geode
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MONKE

solid frigate
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Nobody:

Rillaboom after switching out Indeedee's Psychic Terrain:

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charred saddle
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eh i wouldnt say ludon needs sinistcha that much

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its a good partner yes, but not a staple

bold geode
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Rillaboom good cuz monke

charred saddle
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lots of high ranking and winning team ludon rain team doesnt have sinistcha

foggy lodge
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I think with things like Mirror herb is better Rillaboom

molten oasis
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idt it needs sini at all tbh

charred saddle
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u dont even run mirror herb on ludon

solid frigate
charred saddle
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the most common i think are AV or power herb e shot

foggy lodge
charred saddle
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huh

foggy lodge
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Ah i got the names wrong lol

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It was power herb mb

bold geode
solid frigate
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DK REFERENCEＧＯ　ＢＲＲＲＲＲＲＲ

molten oasis
charred saddle
solid frigate
charred saddle
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AV power herb, nowhere of mirror herb seen

bold geode
charred saddle
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idk what u are talking anout

foggy lodge
bold geode
charred saddle
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was checking other app, didnt see

charred saddle
solid frigate
charred saddle
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but again, power herb stuff doesnt need u to play with sinistcha

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or like rain teams need sinistch

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1018: Archaludon
Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/105/130/125/65/85

Total

600

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foggy lodge
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I forgot it's a pseudo

solid frigate
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wait should it be count as one

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Idk

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It's a 2 phase line

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But it has the 600¿

solid frigate
bold geode
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Duraludon is not a pseudo

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The pseudo for Gen 8 was only Dragapult

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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But Hoenn had two pseudos

bold geode
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Yeah but Galar only had one iirc

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1019: Hydrapple
Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Supersweet Syrup, Regenerator, Sticky Hold (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/80/110/120/80/44

Total

540

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solid frigate
foggy lodge
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I don't know if it happens in english community but in the hispanic community they created the "semi-pseudo-legendaries" term

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Yeah it's so funny

solid frigate
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like even as a Greninja fan i would not consider A-Gren as a Semi Pseudo

little plank
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Anyone been having any success with gen 8?

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I mean reg g brain fart lol

foggy lodge
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lol

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I've been more into testing things and teambuilding, not playing too much

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But i had success with a Zama team

solid frigate
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Terapagos for me,but it depends on MU

foggy lodge
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Ah also a Lunala team but o think the most interesting thing about that team is not the Lunala, is the Skeledirge

solid frigate
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i am still deciding Miraidon or Lunala

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as my 3rd team

molten oasis
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I think kyurem is my primary

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Zac is my second, and I’m not sure about my third yet

little plank
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I can't seem to get any team over 1300 on showdown never had this issue before lol

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Just tried a indeedee-F calyrex shadow weezing gigias team and it was crap

foggy lodge
solid frigate
molten oasis
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Why would you not use unaware

foggy lodge
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Because my Skeledirge has snarl

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But i'm thinking

dapper crag
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Ability: Unaware

This Pokemon ignores other Pokemon's Attack, Special Attack, and accuracy stat stages when taking damage, and ignores other Pokemon's Defense, Special Defense, and evasiveness stat stages when dealing damage.

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cyan smelt
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Just remember that unaware doesn't ignore proto and quark boosts

molten oasis
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That applies to negative/positive on either end?

foggy lodge
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But by example, if Skeledirge uses snarl, the damage is going to take does not consider the special attack drop

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 911: Skeledirge
Types

Fire/Ghost

Abilities

Blaze, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

104/75/100/110/75/66

Total

530

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cyan smelt
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But it might be good for dealing with that muk smeargle shit lmao

solid frigate
foggy lodge
solid frigate
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but i think They will run Tera Fairy cuz Kingambit does not miss Kowtow

foggy lodge
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I'm going to start running Smeargle with tera starstorm imprison

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Imprison has priority?

dapper crag
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Move: Imprison

The user prevents all opposing Pokemon from using any moves that the user also knows as long as the user remains active.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

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cyan smelt
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Smeargle can't learn tera starstorm

foggy lodge
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WHAT

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Smeargle's moveset:
Physical Moves

False Swipe, Fury Swipes, Seismic Toss

Special Moves

Flamethrower

Status Moves

Captivate, Mean Look, Odor Sleuth, Sketch, Sleep Talk, Spore

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Smeargle.

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foggy lodge
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wow

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Also why does wide guard has the same priority as fake out

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I lost a game because of that

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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So you can't fake out the wide guard user

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Unless they're slower

foggy lodge
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I would prefer wide guard not being spammable but having more priority

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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There's ways around it, you target the wide guard user, you taunt it

solid frigate
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SAME WITH QUICK GUARD BUT THATS FINE

foggy lodge
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What was quick guard?

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It was a protect against priority moves right?

cyan smelt
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Blocks prio

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Anyways i think wide guard is a bit down this reg

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Because of OTS

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It's still good tho, but i think is not a mandatory move

knotty mirage
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It's def gonna be everywhere on in game ladder tho

foggy lodge
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Yeah it is

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I run two wide guards in my team

cyan smelt
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Also I saw a game on ladder where dondozo destroyed a cosmic power eternatus, it must've been unaware

solid frigate
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but then again,Both Calyrex,Terapagos,Groudon,Kyogre and any other Pokemon that uses Spread Moves exists so.it might be used alot

foggy lodge
knotty mirage
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Oh well at least i can air slash mienshao if it tries too wide guard fiery wrath

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Dondozo: nah I'd win

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 890: Eternatus
Types

Poison/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

140/85/95/145/95/130

Total

690

Other Formes

Eternatus-Eternamax

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cyan smelt
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I unironically want to run skeledirge again to deal with this muk smeargle shit

foggy lodge
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It's unironically a nice staller in doubles but no one is going to run a staller Eternatus for 9 sets in a tournament lol

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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You'd run out of time and it'd be exhausting

foggy lodge
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If i'd use a Eternatus cosmic power toxic team i would go crazy

cyan smelt
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Pressure stalling only works on CTS bo1

knotty mirage
foggy lodge
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It's a good Pokémon in S/V ladder

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Outside of that nah

foggy lodge
dapper crag
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Move: Heat Crash

The power of this move depends on (user's weight / target's weight), rounded down. Power is equal to 120 if the result is 5 or more, 100 if 4, 80 if 3, 60 if 2, and 40 if 1 or less. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.

Type

Fire

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

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cyan smelt
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I saw heat crash miss on ladder idk why

solid frigate
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Why does it have that lol

foggy lodge
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Ahhhh it ignores specifcally minimize lmao

solid frigate
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Groudon After seeing Alola Muk Minimize:

cyan smelt
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So it doesn't work on costar or psych up

dapper crag
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Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:
Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

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foggy lodge
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It learns psych-up

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Just saying

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Mewtwo's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Psycho Cut, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Earth Power, Electro Ball, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Psystrike, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Barrier, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Detect, Disable, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Guard Swap, Hail, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Laser Focus, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Miracle Eye, Mist, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recover, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Role Play, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Speed Swap, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mewtwo.

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cyan smelt
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Honestly minimise muk next to psych up caly s and fezandipiti is incredibly scummy

foggy lodge
knotty mirage
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Hoo boy yeah that def gonna be painful to fight

solid frigate
# dapper crag

Mewtwo:I have 3000 Possible Ways to kick your Ass

Incineroar:Heh bet

dapper crag
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Mewtwo-Mega-X's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Psycho Cut, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Skull Bash, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Bubble Beam, Charge Beam, Chilling Water, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Earth Power, Electro Ball, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Psystrike, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Barrier, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Detect, Disable, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Guard Swap, Hail, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Laser Focus, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Miracle Eye, Mist, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recover, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Role Play, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Speed Swap, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mewtwo-Mega-X.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
foggy lodge
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Mewtwo just needs another ability

cyan smelt
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Even tera fighting aura sphere doesn't ko ting lu

foggy lodge
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Calyrex has moxie + his ability to spit in his face

knotty mirage
cyan smelt
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Tr with lunala and the dirge is looking good rn

dapper crag
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Fezandipiti's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Beat Up, Brave Bird, Cross Poison, Double Kick, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fly, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Lash Out, Peck, Play Rough, Poison Jab, Poison Tail, Quick Attack, Shadow Claw, Tail Slap, Take Down, Thief, U-turn, Wing Attack

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Alluring Voice, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Heat Wave, Hex, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Moonblast, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Venoshock

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Calm Mind, Charm, Endure, Flatter, Light Screen, Nasty Plot, Poison Gas, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Roost, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Swagger, Swords Dance, Tailwind, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Fezandipiti.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
foggy lodge
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It doesn't have wide guard, good

cyan smelt
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Imagine rocking up to muk smeargle with skeledirge and just spamming torch song

solid frigate
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Lunala or Miraidon

foggy lodge
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Lunala

cyan smelt
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Lunala is goated

solid frigate
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time to build the new Lunala team

cyan smelt
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Lunala skeledirge and ursaluna sounds good

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Also ignores terapagos calm mind boosts

foggy lodge
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Normal Ursaluna or BM Ursaluna?

cyan smelt
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Normal

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Yeah it's better

solid frigate
foggy lodge
solid frigate
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ok time to be toxic and spam EF

cyan smelt
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I love skeledirge, he's my homie

molten oasis
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im a meowscarada fan

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not too fond of dirge but he's cool

solid frigate
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Am i the only one who likes the duck

foggy lodge
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I was checking the Skeledirge from vancouver and is actually really distinct to my Skeledirge

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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The Skeledirge from vancouver ran safety + wow

cyan smelt
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This lunala team seems solid

solid frigate
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Lunala @ Power Herb
Ability: Shadow Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 68 Def / 172 SpA / 68 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Expanding Force
  • Moongeist Beam
  • Meteor Beam
  • Wide Guard

This Lunala?

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i want to make it more bulky so yeah

cyan smelt
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I think power herb is a trap, put will o wisp and moonlight on there

solid frigate
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i'm thinking what item

cyan smelt
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Lefties

dapper crag
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Ability: Shield Dust

This Pokemon is not affected by the secondary effect of another Pokemon's attack.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
charred saddle
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if ur meteor beam u always use power herb....

molten oasis
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always

foggy lodge
charred saddle
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and u kinda always wanna have meteor beam i feel, since like its strong against dark and incineroars

foggy lodge
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Most Lunala don't run a psychic stab move and just run moongest, wide guard, trick room and meteor beam

molten oasis
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or no tr and a fairy move

dapper crag
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Lunala's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Phantom Force, Poltergeist, Psycho Cut, Return, Shadow Claw, Sky Attack, Sky Drop

Special Moves

Air Slash, Blizzard, Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Heat Wave, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Meteor Beam, Moonblast, Moongeist Beam, Night Daze, Night Shade, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Cosmic Power, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Helping Hand, Hypnosis, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Moonlight, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spite, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wide Guard, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Lunala.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
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I'll run Moonblast

charred saddle
cyan smelt
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It was pretty hilarious to see that dondozo destroy that eternatus

molten oasis
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wide guard is so valuable rn

charred saddle
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idk much about lunala but i think some run like dazzling moongeist mbeam and tr

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not dropping it, have other mons to use.

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i didnt say wide guard is good, its just that some team had like follow me plus lunala tr

molten oasis
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like what, there arent many tr mons that get wide guard that i know off

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that arent lunala

charred saddle
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u dont have to run both tr and follow me

molten oasis
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no, not both

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nvm

solid frigate
molten oasis
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ig

cyan smelt
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Gallade too

charred saddle
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now that i think about it

gardevoir and gallade is the earlier version of ceruledge and armarouge

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each bersion had a sword kinsa thing and the other is just psychic thing

molten oasis
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do you guys know of any tier list makers that have all of the pokemon in s/v and dlc?

solid frigate
molten oasis
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nvm i got one

solid frigate
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huh

torn parrot
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i hit the peak peak that i could go before i crashed

strange fjord
torn parrot
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ill come back to ladder another day but this was my peak

torn parrot
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i experienced burn out tho and tilted

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so i sshall return to ladder another day

strange fjord
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perhaps when SV battle stadium updates to reg g, you could aim top 100 master ball too.

torn parrot
solid frigate
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my best is still 1400+ ;-;

strange fjord
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lmk if you need any help building it

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got too much stuff in game to make a few teams

solid frigate
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i have 6 Terapagos team and the final 7th team is my final team

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ok,Wolfey's Calyrex Shadow Team feels.... like kind off for me

mighty stump
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Why?

solid frigate
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idk he does not use Indeedee,Which is Calyrex's Best friend,but idk it probably just me seeing so much Indeedee Calyrex pairs

mighty stump
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You got synergy baited

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Lol

solid frigate
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I get how the others behave cuz i use similar sets but yeah maybe

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time to Give Incin Parting Shot

mighty stump
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Like how people always ran Expanding Force: imo that’s bait

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Minimal spe invested Scarfshifu is troll

solid frigate
mighty stump
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Enough to outspeed Caly-S

solid frigate
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wait i realised i give Urshifu a lot of Speed EVs

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in SV

solid frigate
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cuz the ran scarf

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or 222 if no scarf

solid frigate
# mighty stump Enough to outspeed Caly-S

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 244 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Aqua Jet
  • Surging Strikes
  • U-turn
  • Close Combat
    Is it good?
mighty stump
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Thats it lol

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Pretty sure it needs to be max Spe though

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149 scarf outspeeds Caly-S by exactly 1

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Otherwise you just speed tie

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The whole point of Scarf is to remove dependancy on TW to pressure

solid frigate
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alright thx

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time to re EV train my Urshifu

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Minor adjustments

little plank
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This might be the most simple but insane play I have seen so far lol

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That opener was nuts

solid frigate
#

STELLAR LUNALA?

torn parrot
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wow

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i comoketely fiorgot about stellar tera

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feels completely non existent in reggers g

solid frigate
torn parrot
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yeah besides that guy

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the only stellar user in all of regulation G

solid frigate
little plank
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Was just trying it lol

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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Clodsire also learns after you and speed ties with torkoal

little plank
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But don't give friend guard

mighty stump
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No redirection, worse defensive typing

solid frigate
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i love how most People(Including me) said Koraidon and Miraidon are Gonna be a lot of use but later it does feel Overhyped-

mighty stump
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Koraidon never felt overhyped, just Miraidon lol

solid frigate
mighty stump
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I have seen 0 people glaze koraidon

solid frigate
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but 2 top 10 teams use Koraidon feels kinda low

charred saddle
solid frigate
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bro.

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wha

mighty stump
charred saddle
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KWKWKWK

solid frigate
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lol

dull ibex
mighty stump
dull ibex
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absolutely not

solid frigate
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lol

charred saddle
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bang sate

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jd pgn makan sate padang gw

mighty stump
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Lol someone asked me if I was beaten as a child cause they got bodied on ladder

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im cackling

solid frigate
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Damn-

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also i forgot Gravity Dialga exists

wicked moon
molten oasis
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ok

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so, heatran, is it good or niche

solid frigate
solid frigate
mighty stump
molten oasis
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so niche

solid frigate
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also i forgot to Terastalise Terapagos on First starstorm lol

mighty stump
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They played badly

solid frigate
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But damn someone actually used Garchomp

bold geode
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@mighty stump doth thou want to VC?

foggy lodge
bold geode
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Groudon better

foggy lodge
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I'm surprised Miraidon is not seeing too much usage

fluid fiber
foggy lodge
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But i feel like it's just a thing of early meta, people are going to optimize it when the regulation is oficially released and it's going to be used

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Maybe not like number 1 and not even top 3 but maybe a top 5-6

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That mon needs a lot of optimization

bold geode
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God I wonder what the top 12 graphic for Day 1 of Indy is gonna look like

foggy lodge
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I'm curious

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Those top 12 images are something from S/V regionals only?

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Tournaments from sw/sh didn't have it, right?

bold geode
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🤷‍♂️

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Wasn't around for SwSh

solid frigate
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which is suprsingly low

foggy lodge
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Koraidon has potential but ehhhh

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It looks better on paper

solid frigate
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not a single Miraidon made it top 10 so yeah

foggy lodge
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It dies when you put it into practice

foggy lodge
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But i think people run a lot of counter to that

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Or just the meta game is kinda built where Miraidon doesn't shine

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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And also every Miraidon player have almost the same team lol

#

Iron Jugulis>>>>>Iron Bundle

solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 993: Iron Jugulis
Types

Dark/Flying

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

94/80/86/122/80/108

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
solid frigate
foggy lodge
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It no longer needs the booster energy

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And is a dark type so you can't taunt it as a prankster

solid frigate
#

yeah

fluid fiber
foggy lodge
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The electric terrain teams need a lot of optimization

foggy lodge
fluid fiber
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Unironically

foggy lodge
#

I really see this regulation hard for Amoonguss

fluid fiber
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Pincurchin?

solid frigate
fluid fiber
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As a second terrain setter for Miraidon?

foggy lodge
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Tomorrow we are gonna have the "Amoonguss fell off"

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Yeah

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You are going to run Jugulis to boost it's speed

bold geode
foggy lodge
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And just

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Focus sash Iron Jugulis considering his bulk is mid

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And more when legendary Pokémon come into play

foggy lodge
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My hard predict is that Amoonguss is not going to be used too much

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In early meta is going to be bad

solid frigate
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I'm obliged to use Very Hard DK picture when Rillaboom is mention

foggy lodge
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Because it's going to have to compete with Rillaboom as the grass type role in the team

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And Rillaboom gives you terrain to counter Miraidon, can 2HK0 it with High Horsepower, it's actually a menace against Groudon and Kyogre, and fills better with a lot of restricteds

fluid fiber
solid frigate
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 642: Thundurus
Types

Electric/Flying

Abilities

Prankster, Defiant (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

79/115/70/125/80/111

Total

580

Other Formes

Thundurus-Therian

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
fluid fiber
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The second setter for terrain could beat out Rilla

foggy lodge
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Thundurus would be better lol

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Because it could set electric terrain with prankster

fluid fiber
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Oh true

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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And the "2 electric Pokémon" is not so problematic because Thundurus is a flying type

fluid fiber
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Actually that is pretty huge

foggy lodge
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So you don't have the weakness to ground so

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Mitski i love you so much

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Anyways Thundurus is a good Pokémon

dapper crag
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Thundurus's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Assurance, Astonish, Bite, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Crunch, Facade, Fling, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Payback, Return, Revenge, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Drop, Smack Down, Smart Strike, Strength, Supercell Slam, Superpower, Take Down, Thief, Thrash, Thunder Punch, U-turn, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Discharge, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Psychic, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snarl, Snore, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Volt Switch, Weather Ball, Wildbolt Storm

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Bulk Up, Charge, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Embargo, Endure, Heal Block, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Role Play, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Thundurus.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
foggy lodge
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Twave, taunt, electric terrain, eerie impulse, scary face, even sunny day for some reason¿

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Imagine if this thing had also tailwind

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Oh it has electroweb lmao

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For some reason i activate my brain at this hours

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Give ideas people maybe i built the number 1 team in the format

solid frigate
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I said that before and i'll say it again,If Xerneas is in SV I would use it Over Terapagos lol

foggy lodge
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I just realized

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Why do special attackers are like simply better in this game

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I mean i know, intimidate and burn

solid frigate
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and there are more Special attackers than Physicals

foggy lodge
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Almost always the meta game crafts to make physical attackers's life harder

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This meta i think it's better for them and is just because of Chien-Pao's existence

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And being able to tera fire to don't get burned, or more defiant users in general

solid frigate
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Special Attackers:Caly S,Miraidon,Terapagos,Kyurem White,Kyogre,Dialga,Palkia,Lunala,Necrozma Dawn Wings,Reshiram,Eternatus,Mewtwo,Lugia,Base Kyurem,Base Necrozma
Physical Attackers:Caly I,Koraidon,Ho-Oh,Rayquaza,Groudon,Kyurem Black,Zekrom,Solgaleo,Dusk Mane Necrozma,Zacian,Zamazenta

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all Pretty Even but Special Attackers are more better Of what Maxi Said

cyan smelt
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Clear amulet helps physical attackers at least

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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The problem with the Clear Amulet

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Well it's not a problem, but it's use is just to don't get dropped in stat and maintaining your Pokémon vanilla

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Is a good item but if things like intimidate weren't so popular you could use a better item

radiant siren
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woops was designing a team with zygarde for reg g and it's not even in the game lol

mighty stump
molten oasis
torn parrot
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i got off of tilt burnout and got my alts back 1600 so i feel better

molten oasis
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i cant even hit 1300 with kyurem rn tf

radiant siren
molten oasis
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you casually hit all your alt to 1600

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crazy

mighty stump
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Don't overthink it lol

molten oasis
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i'll try not to

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not that im playing rn cuz finals

bold geode
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Are you on Showdown?

radiant siren
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I am on showdown too but that's for testing

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i got a list of restricteds but it was for sword and shield lol

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i was like nice zygarde

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I love that Mon

torn parrot
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I miss elders react

dapper crag
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Item: Spell Tag

Holder's Ghost-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
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Item: Spell Tag

Holder's Ghost-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
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Item: Spell Tag

Holder's Ghost-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
bold geode
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Fuck

mighty stump
bold geode
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Meant to only do once, phone lagged

dapper crag
#
Item: Spell Tag

Holder's Ghost-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
torn parrot
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i just wanted to be sure i knew what spell tag was

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I'm so sleepy

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i need an anime to watch before bed

molten oasis
#

hmm what does this do

dapper crag
#
Item: Spell Tag

Holder's Ghost-type attacks have 1.2x power.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
molten oasis
bold geode
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Love it when my opponent makes stupid reads lmao

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Takes balls to go Tera Fighting Blast with Caly into my Amoongus
But it caught my Dark tera so

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Fuck me I guess

mighty stump
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Could be an Incineroar switch lol

bold geode
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I didn't even bring it

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I barely lost first game cuz they got the better hand
Then they do this game 2

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I'm actually starting to believe Wide Guard on Zama might be a little ass

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Like do I even need Wide Guard now
It's lost me more than it's won now

mighty stump
#

Then just run Protect and test again

bold geode
#

Like
Caly S I got Tera Dark Amoongus unless they pull that shit, Incin, and Snarl Bolt
Caly I gets shit on by Zama honestly
Groudon is alright with it
Only one I can see giving me any trouble without Wide Guard for some reason is just Kyogre

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I think Protect probably be the play

molten oasis
#

you have bolt

bold geode
molten oasis
#

yea

bold geode
#

But yeah no, Wide Guard is actively hurting more than helping now

torn parrot
#

i can see how it feels like that in best of 3 ots

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or maybe it just

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depends on the team

bold geode
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Ok
And the SECOND I drop Wide Guard
Caly S Barrage spam
TF

mighty stump
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Lol

torn parrot
#

They know it’s not there now

mighty stump
#

They always know

molten oasis
#

I do think at this point caly ice would be better so probably gonna refrain from it as a whole but pretty much

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The things ky hates outspeeds it and the things it doesn’t hate it outspeeds, so going for a hybrid tr team would be good

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As it’s the same speed as Lunala

bold geode
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Well Tofu
What bullshit do I copy now to stay relevant cuz well that didn't help lol

molten oasis
#

That is something I might try but I might also just do some kind of team with Fari ky a9 dengo then figure the rest out

bold geode
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Hell I can't even ask for help fixing a team
It's all my play
Or maybe the team is a bit flawed idfk

molten oasis
#

Maybe sleep on it?

#

You seem kinda tilted

bold geode
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Sleep on a fuckin rock that I'll just bash my head on
I'll be just like Zamazenta

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Behemoth Bash
Unga bunga

molten oasis
bold geode
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Fuck I love my bulky Shifu but I might just have to fuckin rev it up to max speed just to help with Caly, which sucks ass

mighty stump
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If you were running Urshifu with Scarf and it wasn't max speed you're trolling

molten oasis
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I think max speed is required rn

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For scarfshifu

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Caly is an issue unfortunately

bold geode
#

Yeah but like
Then it just absolutely blows even more in other matchups
Idfk
Also Groudon Wake is a fuckin issue

mighty stump
molten oasis
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I mean, that’s just generally pretty oppressive

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Wake and groudon have a lot of coverage

bold geode
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But like
It also has Dragon Fire and Water shit
It's got pretty fucked up neutrals

#

Yeah
Water, Fire, Ground, Dragon
Fuckin Four Nations or some bullshit

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Avatar got a little weird

mighty stump
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You wanna deal with Groudon/Wake? Heatran

bold geode
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Yeah lemme Tera Grass so I don't eat shit to Precipice Blades

mighty stump
#

Yea exactly?

bold geode
#

Wait
Eh not bad thought

mighty stump
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You really speak before thinking don't you

bold geode
#

You didn't know that?

mighty stump
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I was hoping your frontal lobe would have developed by now

bold geode
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My frontal lobe was probably pushed in

molten oasis
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Lmao

bold geode
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They did the funny pokey poke to the forehead

#

Yeah idk
Like
I guess I'll just fuck around with HO cuz it's that time of the meta apparently

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Even still

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Cuz they introduced Honse
And they saw Honse
And it was good
Pokemon Bible Genesis 1:1

molten oasis
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im on the ky white train rn

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not touching the horses

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i find ky fun

bold geode
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Eh I find Zama fun, but trying to apply it don't work so 🤷‍♂️

molten oasis
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its good to play other archetypes and see how they click

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then you can try to apply that info to your team with zama

bold geode
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Cuz I also don't know how to calc shit and don't know simple things like "hey the Scarf bear should always outspeed the horse" and I just need to shove fuckin knowledge in my head

mighty stump
#

Funnily enough

#

Ghost + Curselax actually works

molten oasis
#

really?

mighty stump
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Curselax beats Caly-I TR

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Curse + Tera-Ghost means you avoid the IDBP Mirror + be able to consistently chip them down due to passive Curse damage

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While they can't really touch you

molten oasis
#

huh

bold geode
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How tf do I even put any bulk on Shifu now so it don't die to a fuckin paper cut

mighty stump
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You don't

molten oasis
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you dont? idk

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252 252 feels good rn

mighty stump
#

If it's scarfshifu you just play better

bold geode
#

Ah yes
The thing I haven't been doing for a fuckin minute

molten oasis
#

or even 44/196/4/0/4/252 doesnt' feel bad

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it lives dnite espeed

bold geode
molten oasis
#

lmao

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imma go build some tr ky team

bold geode
#

It's just so fuckin stupid
Why do things be fuckin stupid now

mighty stump
#

It's not stupid

bold geode
#

Horseplay is stupid Tofu and not allowed on work premises

molten oasis
#

on a screens team would fari or p2 be better

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or even cress, oh yk

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anti fo is nice for a9 to get veil up

bold geode
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P2 cuz it's not a Psychic type

molten oasis
#

real

bold geode
#

Real shit

molten oasis
#

fr

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tofu you got a fari spread?

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or thresholds i need to calc for one

mighty stump
#

Farigiraf @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Foul Play
  • Helping Hand
  • Trick Room
  • Hyper Voice

I've just been using this

molten oasis
#

kewl

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foul play for caly's?

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im not dumb ik what thats for

bold geode
#

Also I'm going back to Safety Goggles
Tofu
Don't be fooled by the Shuca berry
It's propaganda

molten oasis
#

and shouldn't question it lol

bold geode
#

The Shuca berry is propaganda, it never helped really

mighty stump
#

general bulk split, as much as I dislike doing that

bold geode
#

Do I even live hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

molten oasis
#

do the attack ivs on fari matter for foul play?

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or does it just use the opponents

mighty stump
#

Opponent's

molten oasis
#

cool

radiant siren
#

foul play goes your attack calc

mighty stump
#

It's final stat post modifier

molten oasis
#

all my damage comes from dengo and ky

mighty stump
#

Consideration wise if you;re leaning into bulk with Kyu-W might as well maximise your offense if you're not hitting any important Speed-tier

bold geode
#

Wow
The Miraidon calc for Electro Drift that I lived with tera is now not a guarantee
At least I outspeed 🤷‍♂️

molten oasis
#

and ig wellspring

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oh yea i can drop the speed right

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it was for icy wind calcs

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outspeeding pao at -1

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any other thoughts on it?

mighty stump
#

mm

molten oasis
#

i do think i could be lacking offense

mighty stump
#

I mean you could use my set

molten oasis
#

for ky?

mighty stump
bold geode
#

I just
Wish I could do shit myself

mighty stump
#

You actually hit your bump

molten oasis
#

oh damn

mighty stump
#

It's discussion, not dependance

bold geode
molten oasis
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sure, ill give that a shot

mighty stump
#

Someone's gotta learn from somewhere

bold geode
#

I'm the drunk and Tofu's the bar counter that keeps me from falling on my ass

molten oasis
#

oh do, how much do those spD evs matter as im going av

mighty stump
molten oasis
#

true yea

mighty stump
#

It's not particularly important if you just plan on clicking Tera

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I mean, Wolfe did well without knowing what half his mons EVs did so like

molten oasis
#

not requiring a9 would also he helpful

mighty stump
#

I personally like knowing, but it's not required

molten oasis
#

so yea, ill just use that

mighty stump
#

252/252/4 sometimes isn't a problem guys

bold geode
molten oasis
#

ik

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oh well, could do that

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since im av

mighty stump
#

Like ok, if you don't know what your EVs do but your board development/gameplay fundamental is good then it makes up for it

molten oasis
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and extra damage

mighty stump
#

IF you know what your EVs do to a T it informs how you play i.e. board development/gameplay fundamental

molten oasis
#

might go back to my old spread then

bold geode
#

I do know Zamazenta calcs, but I just remembered some that like y'all told me

molten oasis
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i lived behemoth blade with that, i believe

mighty stump
molten oasis
#

things to refrence

#

oh hey look, a gholdengo, pog

mighty stump
#

Yotam ran Gholdengo as well

bold geode
#

All I see are better teams than mine and horses and turtles
Not even a Groudon in top 8

mighty stump
#

Pelipper is also good right now

molten oasis
#

yea i agree

pastel blade
molten oasis
#

wide guard is super nice, and its good into koraidon like ya said

mighty stump
#

Probably not

bold geode
#

I would run Pelipper if not for the fact the only slots I feel like I can throw it on are either Bolt, Lando or Ursh but like
Ursh would be losing immediate damage output, which has helped Zama do Zama shit
Lando would be losing my one way to deal with Archaludon and with Bolt I'm probably losing a big chunk there

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At this point, just fuckin Thundy I

molten oasis
#

i think with 2 helping hand users i should be fine with offense

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for not dengo lol

mighty stump
#

on god my Urshifu lives Astral Barrage from LO Caly

molten oasis
#

no way

mighty stump
#

CC > Surging Strikes

molten oasis
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rapid strike?

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ah

mighty stump
#

Yea Rapid Strike

bold geode
#

Just brother
I've lost so many games to that fucker

mighty stump
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lol

molten oasis
#

could i forgo redirection, hmm

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nah, i think for now this should be fine

mighty stump
#

mm

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ok im bored playing Caly-S now

molten oasis
#

lmfao

mighty stump
#

Feels too solid

molten oasis
#

it was too good

mighty stump
#

I need to mix it up so I can get comfy

molten oasis
#

maybe lunala?

mighty stump
#

Nah, Kyogre

bold geode
#

Play Zama
Gimme some sauce brother

molten oasis
bold geode
#

I go night night for 5-6 hour, report back lmao

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Anyways me tired now
I go sleep

molten oasis
#

gn

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alr, imma test that team tomorrow

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gonna go finish my math homework, maybe

mighty stump
#

Time to play SoulSilver

molten oasis
#

have fun

tiny vapor
#

if I wanted to build a magearna for general use what kinda Evs should I give it (idk where else to ask)

knotty mirage
#

If you mean for raid just max HP and special attack

tiny vapor
#

not specifically raids just in general

knotty mirage
#

I think it is still the best for it magearna already have good defence/special defence and it don't really need speed

tiny vapor
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mine has no good speed 😭

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also I assume I want a modest nature?

knotty mirage
#

Yes

tiny vapor
#

what kinda moveset would I be wanting for raids btw

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(sorry to be asking so many questions I dont know anything about being good at pokemon)

knotty mirage
#

Probably fluer cannon/draining kiss/flash cannon/calm mind go for stellar terra if you want to use both of it's stab

tiny vapor
#

ty I will remember this (hopefully)

obtuse rain
#

If you have Weezing on the field with neutralizng gas, should stamina (From Archulugeon, or Mudale) be able to activate?

mighty stump
obtuse rain
#

I hate loosing to glitches

knotty mirage
#

Are you sure they just not using ability shield ?

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Because ability shield will just ignore neutralizing gas all together

obtuse rain
#

it was lifeorb

mighty stump
#

Neutralising Gas doesn’t remove already existing def boosts from Stamina

obtuse rain
#

archudragon came onto the field after weezing, and weezing used knockoff on it.

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which activated stamina

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before anyone asks. I was playing random doubles on smogon

next stump
#

did weezing have that ability and not its other option?

chrome knot
#

send replay

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itll tell you if neutralizing gas was its ability lol

autumn vault
# bold geode

Throw more restricted physical attackers there, like Zekrom Kyurem-B Necrozma DM

autumn vault
#

I played Weezing and i am pretty sure it does not let Stamina get defense boosts in neutralizing gas

chrome knot
#

also its randbats im sure the set would be levitate

obtuse rain
#

ill see if I can figure out how to get the replay

solid frigate
#

wheeve

autumn vault
bold geode
#

Fuck it

timber falcon
#

pokemom showdown restarting?

foggy lodge
#

Can i put a link to a video? Is from a top player, but it's in spanish

finite vine
#

What’s the moveset Serperior usually uses in single battles?

mighty stump
#

I assume Sub/Glare/Leaf Storm/Tera Blast

timber falcon
#

i doubled the lando incase one got paralysed, wtf is this

image.png
autumn vault
mighty stump
#

So basically what I said

autumn vault
#

Yes but more precise

finite vine
gentle cragBOT
autumn vault
#

Precise as in evs tera item etc.

mighty stump
#

People need to be more specific in their requests...

autumn vault
#

True

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Atleast i did bring the moveset

finite vine
mighty stump
#

I gave you the moveset you accepted the whole set

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😭

autumn vault
#

He is right though, you asked for moveset, thanked the one who brought the set

finite vine
mighty stump
#

I'm just joking around if that wasn;t clear

finite vine
#

Yea sorry I didn’t checked. Thanks for the help tho ^^

timber falcon
#

how to stop tr from being used

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even with redirection

autumn vault
#

It is the most consistent way

timber falcon
#

hmm i guess that would work

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but only in cts

foggy lodge
timber falcon
#

im just having a bit of tr trouble

foggy lodge
#

It's hard to prevent the TR from being set up

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Normally you just prepare the team to play under TR or bring something that can prevent the TR from being set up

timber falcon
#

i cant even wait it out to win anymore

foggy lodge
#

I've been just labing with Sinistcha and maaaa is good

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The TR to prevent TR from being set up, is ghost so you can't fake out it, and something like mental herb

foggy lodge
timber falcon
#

atp i doubt theres a consistent way of doing, its like tryna stop prankster tw

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but a but easier

foggy lodge
#

Like

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There you have some options

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Taunting the TR Setter, baiting a TR to use TR at the same turn and nullify it, or killing the TR setter

timber falcon
#

killing the tr setter happens once a millenia for me

foggy lodge
#

Man i remember yestarday i lost because my rival used his Ursaluna with 252+ in speed

timber falcon
#

cause i have taunt rilla, but they work their way round that most if the time

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Well not 252+ but it had a lot of invest in speed

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It outspeeded my Raginf Bolt and i lost because of that

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And my Raginf has speed invest lol

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
#

early reg G i lost to booster BM AND Caly-ice

dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 1021: Raging Bolt
Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/73/91/137/89/75

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
timber falcon
#

ots aint saving u there

foggy lodge
#

It outspeeds it by like 15 points like how

timber falcon
#

minimum 180 evs to be on par with base bolt lol

foggy lodge
#

lmao

timber falcon
#

wait no its 116 counting nature

foggy lodge
#

And my Raging has some invest in speed, not too much but it has

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

It should like minimum some 28 evs in speed or something like that

foggy lodge
#

I taunted his Farigiraf with Rillaboom

timber falcon
#

oh no

foggy lodge
#

And the mf Farigiraf used psychic and i didn't do shit because the next turn Inci killed it

#

I think it was something like Iron Hands, Farigiraf, Ursaluna-BM, Ogerpon-Hearthflame

timber falcon
#

bait tr team? 😭

foggy lodge
#

I suppose??

timber falcon
#

but it can work SatoshiuHmm

foggy lodge
#

It also had Urshifu single strike and Tornadus

timber falcon
#

i might have to try that lul

foggy lodge
#

But he didn't bring them to the match

timber falcon
#

oh?

#

normally its tw BM though

foggy lodge
#

That would make sense

timber falcon
#

he really trusted its speed lol

foggy lodge
#

Why does the ladder is BO1 CTS i hate it

timber falcon
#

well gotta have some gimmicks available

foggy lodge
#

Why does a fanmade website has a better format for players to train before tournaments than the game itself

timber falcon
#

i dont even know why lol

#

maybe not everyone can acces nintendo switch online???

foggy lodge
#

I'm going to start running the most random teams to farm points in ladder

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Time not use restricteds in reg G

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Like a guy from another server said "legendaries are gay"

timber falcon
#

sounds like cope ngl

foggy lodge
#

It's cope

timber falcon
foggy lodge
#

Anyways before i entered to VGC i saw many people arguing about that topic, like saying nah legendaries aren't that powerful

#

And i believed that and now that i'm going to play my first format with legendaries i feel like i subestimated them lol

stray badger
#

I've been trying to look at Pikalytics of Ubers tier to find potential good shiny restricted mons for Reg G but at best there's Dusk-Mane Necrozma, which is teamed mostly with other restricted/banned mons and I don't have SwSh

foggy lodge
#

XD

stray badger
#

I could either use a legal but genned one or trade for one.

timber falcon
#

legal, u cant discuss genning here

stark kindle
stray badger
timber falcon
#

oh u want shinies only

stark kindle
#

Welp. Might as well buy swsh then

timber falcon
#

uhhh what should i expect

image.png
mighty stump
mighty stump
dapper crag
#
Pokémon No. 927: Dachsbun
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Well-Baked Body, Aroma Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

57/80/115/50/80/95

Total

477

SableyeBot version 4.27.0
stray badger
mighty stump
#

Pikalytics isn't the only place to find VGC Reg G data

timber falcon
#

well shit

image.png
#

got burn on both my mons

mighty stump
#

LabMaus also has Reg G stuff

timber falcon
#

groudon dropped?

mighty stump
#

Not surprising, it's good imo but Precipice Blades is still inaccurate

bold geode
mighty stump
#

Oh shit i'm on here

stray badger
#

Well I've tried asking here and just get "it isn't out yet"

timber falcon
bold geode
mighty stump
#

Terapagos

bold geode
mighty stump
#

I do

#

Turtles are one of my favourite animals

#

? Not really a place to ask about save files

fiery rune
#

area zero sry

timber falcon
mighty stump
#

Oh, did you mean to Union Circle?

fiery rune
gentle cragBOT
strange juniper
strange juniper
mighty stump
#

Thanks proton

stray badger
#

At least I can get the Super-Ancient Trio

#

And the Creation Trio

bold geode
mighty stump
bold geode
#

Oh

#

A Zama Clefable team and a Zama Cresselia team?

stray badger
bold geode
#

There's a team on there with Coaching on Zamazenta

mighty stump
#

I made an oopsie and put Tera-Water Incin on the paste, I forgot to change it

timber falcon
#

Did u start in sv?

stray badger
#

I started in SM but it's been a long time since I've even had my 2DS, I lost it a while ago.
I started shiny hunting/comp in SV

timber falcon
#

Oh ok so swsh was skipped

#

I just buy all the Pokemon games that are related to home poliwhirlkek

stray badger
#

And Let's Go, but Mewtwo is in BDSP at least

timber falcon
#

Excluding different versions ofc

stray badger
#

I still hate the Home subscription

timber falcon
#

Subscription?

stray badger
#

The subscription to use more than 1 box or transfer in from Bank

#

For a service you might not even use once any given month

timber falcon
#

What u need to pay money for that? :/

#

That sucks tbh

stray badger
#

$16 a year

chrome knot
#

its like $5 for a year

timber falcon
#

The duality

chrome knot
#

LOL mine was just a guess tbf

#

i bought home ee like last year so i forgor

timber falcon
stray badger
#

The worst part is that there are still limits! Yeah you probably won't use all 6k storage slots but if I'm paying for it I should be able to use it however I want!

chrome knot
timber falcon
#

Greedy company arkeknine

chrome knot
#

greedy people

mighty stump
#

Me who has never paid for a HOME subscription ever:

timber falcon
#

So I’ll end up a greedy mf too steamhappy

timber falcon
stray badger
#

"don't want to sit through a dozen dozen loading screens filling out the national dex? Better pay up!"

timber falcon
#

more box spaces?

stray badger
#

Yes

timber falcon
#

oh thats neat at least

stray badger
#

You'd have to fill the 1 box you get, save, go back in, drop them back in game, drop in the next group, save, and keep doing that over and over again to fill out Home's dex

#

Or you could pay for it to do it all in 1 go

timber falcon
#

thats cheap lol (not the price the method)

stray badger
#

The 2020 subscription craze where you own nothing GardeSip

mighty stump
#

It's honestly not that bad

#

A bit of extra time to save some money is worth the trade if you don't want to pay

#

People can spend hours shiny hunting but not to move their collection

#

Not even hours lmao

stray badger
#

I would have less of a problem with it if it was a one time payment, as is you're subscribing to something you won't use often

#

If you used Home every day, maybe. Still scummy but it's better.

mighty stump
#

Then why pay for it if you're not gonna use it often, it's pretty simple logic to me

stray badger
#

The NSO subscription is super scummy but you use it all the time

#

Home is not designed to be something you use often

mighty stump
#

Yeah so why pay for it if you're not gonna use it often

timber falcon
#

transfer pokemon

mighty stump
#

You still recieve the same service, just slightly less efficient

#

End result is the same

stray badger
#

Unless you want to transfer in Pokemon from Bank

timber falcon
#

maybe, but i never owned any consoles besides switch (i feel left out SadMimi )

#

u dont understand my envy when u said u were playing soul silver yesterday