competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

Yeah but like

Steel type

Body Press vs Sand Tomb

[lofty tartan]

Right

[mighty stump]

If you acn go 9-0]#

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Body Press is just the safe move.

[grizzled bronze]

body press is right there 😭

[mighty stump]

Im actualy like

Getting frustrated

[bold geode]

Teddy C'MON BRO

[mighty stump]

And now when you should be clicking Sand Tomb into Raging Bolt

You don't

Pls

[lofty tartan]

He could've KO'd Primarina like 3 times over 😐

[grizzled bronze]

too late

[mighty stump]

GJ Benjamin

[grizzled bronze]

that was something

[atomic mural]

benjamin was COOKING

[willow vault]

I am so confused, I was playing showdown bo3 reg G and dude beats me game 1 with calyrex, then leaves (I assume they thought it was bo1, and I get points.) I’ll take it but so don’t feel good

[lofty tartan]

Eh just take the W and move on

[bold geode]

That happens sometimes
Just load up another lmao

[willow vault]

Fair enough just the first time it happened to me

[bold geode]

There was just so many mistakes

Alright
C'MON TIM

[grizzled bronze]

time for masters

[tough idol]

Let's go Nils

[bold geode]

https://x.com/ragimali/status/1776702468816068809?t=9YdvY30rky3w5UGpTca9dA&s=33

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Look at this Legion

Well Benjamin there WAS something he could do
It's called
Body Press

[dusty gate]

Right to masters lol.

[lofty tartan]

Bro called Benjamin "Teddy" for a second. Savage.

[mighty stump]

Masters time

I wanna watch the player who beat Soula 2-0

oh shit

The P2 Ursaluna Balnace

That shit is good

[dusty gate]

[bold geode]

GO TIM

[dusty gate]

Why did that take so long send lol.

[mighty stump]

Nils Dunlop looks like Nicholas Donnelly

[dusty gate]

[tough idol]

[bold geode]

Oh my

[dusty gate]

Legion.

[bold geode]

Lacius.......
Lamp

[dusty gate]

Am confused what you mean.

[bold geode]

Wait Chandelure is a chandelier I'm fucking big stupid

[dusty gate]

[tough idol]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-steve-carell-brick-lamp-gif-5715014

[bold geode]

Tofu I don't fucking see it

I don't think Tim has even won a local ever

[bold geode]

Actually Legion I just remembered
EU already got NAIC bro
Alex Gomez won 2023 NAIC

[tough idol]

Ah well we can win it again lol 😆

[bold geode]

NUH UH

Oh yeah NA won it in EUIC last year

Paul Chua

Has regular Ursa got a event?

[mighty stump]

Speed Boosting Flutter

the no damage Flutter

[lofty tartan]

I'm running speed boosting flutter on my Kyurem-W team but it's for speed control and to pressure/punish teras

But I definitely don't mind seeing my opp speed boost.

[mighty stump]

OOF

[patent marsh]

you need one?

[mighty stump]

Nils going for a safe play but I think that was a good poisition to go for a punish

Tim has to make aggressive plays to gain an edge and you shuold be trying to punish rather than going neutral

Board state right now favours Tim

Wood Hammer + Tera Ivy would be so good for Tim into Amoonguss right now

@lofty tartan Thoughts

?

Oof

[patent marsh]

oof

[lofty tartan]

My thoughts are that Spore was an insane call.

[mighty stump]

Im so confused as to why Stomping

Nils literally just

Im dead

[grizzled bronze]

ggs

[mighty stump]

This gameplan worked twice

No Tera btw

[dusty gate]

So much pivoting jesus.

[mighty stump]

https://x.com/WoodTofuVGC/status/1777012516008464463 please like my next hit tweet

🪵TofuVGC (@WoodTofuVGC) on X

First @vgccorner for Vancouver, now @Invicnati to win EUIC

Twitter · Apr 7, 2024, 4:36 PM

Lmaoo

[willow vault]

ggs

[mighty stump]

Nils showing that just play your bread-and-butter

Tim played too conservatively

Understandably

He did still play well

First year in VGC and 2nd place at EUIC

Incredibly solid game of fundamentals

[pearl wind]

they muted the stream?

[tough idol]

Dillon gotta do some begging

[patent marsh]

joever

[thorny ridge]

anyone have a kyurem dynamax adventure?

[mighty stump]

Could try #1211390453421711412 , If I get one ill let you know

I'm working through the legends

[thorny ridge]

tyty

ive been going through it all day and got no good adventures lol

well groudon and torn but im never using them at an event

[mighty stump]

Mfw Tyo hates Groudon

U just haven't seen my tech

Never missing Precipice Blades

[thorny ridge]

yeah the accuracy is the main thing haha, i hate missing

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/3e5df4e07a86fd36 Doesn't even miss against flying types bro

[thorny ridge]

gravity does make sense

groudon giraffe probably is pretty legit, sabeleye seems a bit hard with caly shadow indeedee around a lot

since giraffe learns gravity

[mighty stump]

👁️

[molten oasis]

huh

[dapper crag]

Farigiraf's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Crunch, Double Hit, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Low Kick, Natural Gift, Psychic Fangs, Retaliate, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Confusion, Dazzling Gleam, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Mirror Coat, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Razor Wind, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Twin Beam, Uproar, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Amnesia, Attract, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Captivate, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Foresight, Gravity, Growl, Guard Swap, Helping Hand, Imprison, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Mean Look, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Odor Sleuth, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Telekinesis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wish, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Farigiraf.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[molten oasis]

it does

interesting

[thorny ridge]

giraffe is broken

every single restricted pretty much pairs well with it

[mighty stump]

Fr

[molten oasis]

fr

anti fake out is awesome

[foggy lodge]

Tsareena could be good?

I saw some people talking about Tsareena's comeback

[solid frigate]

yeah but Farigaraf has Better Typing, and is more Defensive so it can stick Longer,Plus Grass types you have the Ogre

I mean Ogerpon,if Ogerpon is not here i can see Tsareena make a comeback

[mental glen]

Anyone have a good build for cramorant?

[solid frigate]

Cramorant?

good god i need to check

[clear galleon]

hey is there any channel in this server for people looking to battle in S/V?

[tough idol]

#1046572041421197352

[foggy lodge]

why

[dapper crag]

Move: After You

The target makes its move immediately after the user this turn, no matter the priority of its selected move. Fails if the target would have moved next anyway, or if the target already moved this turn.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

Move: Instruct

The target immediately uses its last used move. Fails if the target has not made a move, if the move has 0 PP, if the target is preparing to use Beak Blast, Focus Punch, or Shell Trap, or if the move is Assist, Beak Blast, Belch, Bide, Blazing Torque, Celebrate, Chatter, Combat Torque, Copycat, Dynamax Cannon, Focus Punch, Hold Hands, Ice Ball, Instruct, King's Shield, Magical Torque, Me First, Metronome, Mimic, Mirror Move, Nature Power, Noxious Torque, Obstruct, Outrage, Petal Dance, Rollout, Shell Trap, Sketch, Sleep Talk, Struggle, Thrash, Transform, Uproar, Wicked Torque, any two-turn move, or any recharge move.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[willow vault]

Is levitate bronzong the best defensive wall of Calyrex-ice. Don’t know why I thought about it but it resists ice, immune to ground coverage with levitate and doesn’t take super effective damage from Tera fighting incase they use that.

[tough idol]

New DA file started, let the collection begin lol 😆

[rustic mountain]

[willow vault]

[rustic mountain]

ayo been a minute dude (if u remember me ) grats on ultrecht that was awesome

[rustic mountain]

idk bout best but yea it does, idk who is using tera fighting caly ice tho i havent seen that myself

[willow vault]

I’ve ran into a couple of times

[rustic mountain]

really?

[willow vault]

Yeah

[rustic mountain]

weird haha ive mostly fought tera water, 1 or 2 ground

[willow vault]

I would have assumed most ran Tera fire to prevent will-o-wisp burns but some people don’t care

Tera water makes sense for resists now that you mention it

[rustic mountain]

i think if u get in good enough position it doesnt really matter, clear amulet with a better defensive tera seems more consistent

[willow vault]

Fair enough

[rustic mountain]

like u could do tera fire too but again if u get good speed control and dont care about intimidate its like what r u really worried about

[willow vault]

Probably amoongus

Spore go crazy

[rustic mountain]

wen i get caught out by caly ice its usually over unless im playing balance and even then sometimes that too if they get some reads right

amoongus stays good who wouldve thought

[willow vault]

I do feel like Calyrex-ice might be slightly better than shadow interestingly. Very contriversial I would assume

[rustic mountain]

i think they r both like 1 and 2 so not a huge jump, i still hav csr #1

like its jus snowballs so much

and has tera now to cover weaknesses

[willow vault]

Valid, at the moment I’m not liking the teams I currently have (they don’t fit my play style, very well) so trying to make Palkia + bronzong because I’m insane

[simple night]

can someone explain competitive to me?

[timber falcon]

pokemon vs pokemon

[rustic mountain]

haha gl to u, i think palkia is weird rn but im sure u could make something work although idk how consistent

[simple night]

well like more in depth

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[rustic mountain]

^

[willow vault]

Baseline, you have 6 Pokémon all level 50, you bring 4 to a battle. Some things are very useful like intimidate and redirection (follow me, rage powder).

[pearl wind]

oh palkia is interesting but bronzong?

[willow vault]

That’s more useful icl

[rustic mountain]

its a lot to jus explain to someone

[willow vault]

If the best trick room mon is Calyrex-Ice, why not wall it

[timber falcon]

is it the best though?

[willow vault]

God I hate autocorrect

[willow vault]

For trick room sweepers? I would say so

[rustic mountain]

bronzong always seems serviceable in restricted formats

[timber falcon]

u can say that, but different tr mons to good in their own way

equally

[willow vault]

Like?

Just curious

[timber falcon]

bm ursaluna

[willow vault]

Walled

[timber falcon]

hit sin different ways

u say "walled" like glastrier cant be

[rustic mountain]

idk how itll fair into the reg g meta and what it becomes but it usually seems to fill a role in certain teams

[timber falcon]

caly-ice*

[pearl wind]

i'd probably go towards corviknight, not exactly what you want as you dont get the resist for ice (and fighting) but still neutral damage while also offering tailwind support

[willow vault]

Yeah that’s why I’m using bronzong, because it walls it relatively effectively

[thorny ridge]

yoo yes i do haha, hope you've been doing well! and ty 🙏

[gentle crag]

raisedintyo has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

cant complain hope uve been good as well

[pearl wind]

and i lob corvi

[willow vault]

It is interesting and did cross my mind, but like you said I really wanted the ice resist + trick room is generally better with Palkia from what I’ve used

[timber falcon]

palkia is viable?

what does it do

[willow vault]

Not the best, it’s ok

[timber falcon]

is it specs or smth

[lofty tartan]

It's one week into the announcement of a new format - most things are viable because the meta hasn't settled yet.

[willow vault]

I just like Palkia and wanted to use it…

[rustic mountain]

i think it depends on team comp, if u urself are more tr focused as a team, bronzong makes sense but if its more balance based then yea corviknight might work

[pearl wind]

i havent played a restricted format so i dont know how much play palkia can see in a TR team but go for it, i support bronzong

[lofty tartan]

Dialga is pretty interesting in Trick Room if you can min speed it. The typing is really strong, but it's probably stronger in a Double Restricted format beside Ice Rider.

[rustic mountain]

its early tho idk if either will work especially with sun so prevalent, they would be more matchup based

[willow vault]

I get scared of the ground weakness with it

[lofty tartan]

Tera happens and you have Ice Rider

[willow vault]

I know I just get scared

[lofty tartan]

Like if talking about double restricted there. I don't think it's super great in single restricted.

[willow vault]

Sun is so good rn

[lofty tartan]

Raging Bolt and Archaludon have the same weakness and they're really good right now regardless. You can fight through weaknesses :]

[rustic mountain]

yea sun is strong

[timber falcon]

wasnt sun always a decent choice? or was rain just better

[rustic mountain]

its fluctuated, some formats its been a lot better then others for sv

[willow vault]

I know I just don’t like dialga having the weakness as it’s the sole restricted, and many other restricteds run ground moves

[pearl wind]

yeah thats true, i havent used* any TR focused teams (yet) so i naturally go towards a faster mode and i had some great games using corviknight in earlier regulations

but i'll try a dawn-wings team for regulation g so that has to change

[rustic mountain]

rn its at its best tho w/ groudon and koraidon being added

[timber falcon]

i should make a weather team at one point yk, just realised i dont do that

[lofty tartan]

Groudon/Bolt/Venu/Wake has been incredibly fun to play lately.

[willow vault]

Sun has really benefitted from the protosynthesis mons available, it was already great but so many more pokemon gain so much from sun

[foggy lodge]

The body press Kommo-O counts as a TR team?

[rustic mountain]

yea quite a few players have done well w/ it so makes sense its been a less chosen option but on certain teams it can really shine

[pearl wind]

what?

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

👀

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/e1f165c533a8d731 any ideas for 5 and 6?

[foggy lodge]

A team some spanish people used

It made top cut in uhh

I don't remember which regional

[rustic mountain]

oh the p2 stuff

[timber falcon]

spatckers wanted

[foggy lodge]

The P2, Kommo-O, Ting-Lu

[timber falcon]

oh that archetype

it was good for like 2 weeks then fell off like any other

[tough idol]

Ah that one, where ppl got DQd for cloning lol

[foggy lodge]

I only stopped playing that team because the marches were so long

[rustic mountain]

i mean its a tr team as in it had tr as an option

[lofty tartan]

Ah yes. The Ting-Lu debacle.

[timber falcon]

any good spatckers that arent flutter or yu-chi?

[tough idol]

Gold

[timber falcon]

?

[tough idol]

Goldengho

[timber falcon]

ohhhhh

[rustic mountain]

raging bolt

im assuming u mean non restricted

[timber falcon]

i havent used dengo in a while, but im scared of caly-shadow

[rustic mountain]

lando i as well

[timber falcon]

and bolt has the caly-ice problem i dont wanna add to it, so maybe ill add dengo and a mon with wide guard or smth

[willow vault]

Kroger’s pretty good special attacker

[timber falcon]

non-restricted btw

[willow vault]

Ah yes the restricted mon Kroger, thanks autocorrect

[willow vault]

oh mb

https://pokepast.es/d7bf2d73bbf9d474, Idea for the Trick Room core?

[timber falcon]

didnt it fall off immediately? though im not sure why

[rustic mountain]

i still see it on certain teams

[timber falcon]

by core do u mean sweeper

[lofty tartan]

Dunno how this is "fallen off immediately"

[tough idol]

I still have Lando I

[timber falcon]

reg G

[tough idol]

Planning on using it Reg G initially

[lofty tartan]

Dude Reg G is still not settled lmfao

[rustic mountain]

reg g also jus started i wouldnt rule it out immediately even if ppl are dropping it

[willow vault]

So you want reg g, non restricted

[timber falcon]

i mean i havent seen lando-I in reg G

[lofty tartan]

There's 0 usage data

[timber falcon]

mhm, preferbaly a bit bulky though#

[willow vault]

? It’s a set of 4 great runners in trick room

[timber falcon]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh#

[lofty tartan]

Landorus is strong into a lot of Restricted pokemon, and has seen use in Restricted formats in the past.

[timber falcon]

my tr core is always incin moongus rilla

idk why i just rly like the trio

and they have good chemistry

[timber falcon]

oh? i always thought it would struggle

[lofty tartan]

Why?

[timber falcon]

take beeg hits and crumble

[rustic mountain]

it also can deal big hits

[timber falcon]

rly?

[lofty tartan]

If Flutter Mane takes a big hit it crumbles. That hasn't stopped it. It's a very poor factor to be the consideration for a mon doing poorly in the meta.

[timber falcon]

dont flutters have rly bulky sets though nowadays

[lofty tartan]

Some do.

Some don't. Even bulk invested, it's not bulky

It has 55 base defense and hp.

[tough idol]

https://pokepast.es/ea55e66cf2649410

What I'll be trying initially, possible item change on Caly

[foggy lodge]

Nah don't worry

[timber falcon]

oh so i have a bad mindset about mon viability, im noticing here

[foggy lodge]

Gholdengo is not going to die

It's a Pokémon made for competitive

[timber falcon]

sash or specs cant hurt

[rustic mountain]

lando t is usually wat ppl have used in the past so intimidate + solid typing and high atk stat has bode well for it but lando i has more pressure offensively cuz u cant intimidate its sp atk on switch and has decent bulk even w/o its own intimidate support

[lofty tartan]

So here's something to consider

Flutter Mane with 252/252 hp and defense has less hp and defense than Landorus-Incarnate with ZERO invested HP/Def

[foggy lodge]

How did we skip so hard on Lando-I

[timber falcon]

but when i think of adding a mon i think of can it get kills or stop them

[foggy lodge]

This is the first regulation i have seen it being used

[timber falcon]

and lando seems to get killed a lot

[lofty tartan]

That is not the only two roles you should consider

[rustic mountain]

lando i has been around in sv

[timber falcon]

oh

[tough idol]

Lando T was just more popular because Incin wasn't back

[timber falcon]

so then what do i think of when building a team?

coverage?

synergy?

[lofty tartan]

First thing when building a team is "what do I want to use" or "what do I want this team to do"

Intent is critical.

[timber falcon]

oh yeah i get that part

i always draw a blank on mons though

[lofty tartan]

Synergy supports your intent and has pokemon playing off each others strengths/weaknesses (not type weaknesses)

Coverage is more just a mechanical offense/defense thing.

Frankly too many people are fretting about building teams when they should be focusing more on understanding the meta and matches.

[rustic mountain]

filter on sd teambuilder search

[lofty tartan]

Teambuilding is a really advanced skill, and I still consider myself amateur at best.

[timber falcon]

weaknesses that arent about typing?

[lofty tartan]

Yeah there are weaknesses about teams that have nothing to do with typing

[timber falcon]

[rustic mountain]

most players rnt great teambuilders

[timber falcon]

i dont get it

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[gentle crag]

dazedmika has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[timber falcon]

what is a mon lacking if not typing

[rustic mountain]

free rep

[timber falcon]

stats?

[lofty tartan]

Warranted rep. 😐

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

People think it's super easy to make a team

[foggy lodge]

Movepool

[lofty tartan]

Just slap six guys together and win. How hard can it possibly be.

[foggy lodge]

The flareon theorem,,,

[solid frigate]

beeg

[timber falcon]

my brain starts to hurt so much i decide to just sleep for a few hours

[rustic mountain]

it is, its super easy to make a team. winning with that team consistently is the hard part

[timber falcon]

oh yeah this makes sense, kinda....

[rustic mountain]

usually its stats and ability can make up for lackluster typing, see tyranitar. not always the case tho

[foggy lodge]

Entei movepool in gen 2 reinforced the theory that it was a revived Flareon lmao

[rustic mountain]

a lot of times its not just the mon, its how that mon fares into the current meta

[lofty tartan]

I think it's extremely vital to start out using rentals, then moving into combining known things that work

Like this part of a team and that part of another team? Put them together. Do they play well off each other? Do they feel poor into a majority of matches?

The difficulty associated with teambuilding from scratch is 100% understated.

[timber falcon]

oh yeah a few months ago i was told to use rentals

[lofty tartan]

And then you spend 3 weeks making some homebrew, finally test it, and it falls apart.

[timber falcon]

i never did

[lofty tartan]

Mistake.

https://tenor.com/view/shame-on-you-how-dare-you-smh-tisk-tisk-disappointed-gif-15929394

[timber falcon]

idk which rental to use

[rustic mountain]

yea u should it really helps

[lofty tartan]

I refused rentals when I started a year ago too.

BIG mistake.

[foggy lodge]

Search some archetypes

[rustic mountain]

ur gna understand y mons and teams are good

[timber falcon]

in fact i havent played the actual sv game in months either

[lofty tartan]

These teams are good for a reason.

[rustic mountain]

instead of being lost everytime u hit the builder

[foggy lodge]

I think there's a archetypes in reg F tier list

You can search one there

[rustic mountain]

check out like cybertron

theres so many vgc poketubers

[foggy lodge]

And i think is better than just ranking every Pokémon individually

[tough idol]

James Baek is good too

[charred saddle]

tbh not much poketubers are actually good

[lofty tartan]

I even scout Limitless events and build teams that perform well, so I can test them myself. Just using experience and knowledge to fill in some blanks with EVs

[timber falcon]

basically use good teams to get good?

[foggy lodge]

Search poketubers with results

[rustic mountain]

hes good he just doesnt explain things as well to beginners imo. his stuff is solid tho if u know the game

[charred saddle]

like some random vgc poketubers used a weird ass niche team in pokeball and have a clickbaity title like "oh this A is meta in reg F"

[rustic mountain]

cant stand that

[foggy lodge]

"Cosmoem is destroying in reg G"

[lofty tartan]

Pokesports - more clickbaity focused. They put the competitive teams behind patreon

Cybertron - best source for solid teams with real results and strong explanations of weaknesses and strengths.

[rustic mountain]

immediate dont wanna see this again

[charred saddle]

only a handful of actual VGC poketubers have actually a thing going for them, usually which does have results

[timber falcon]

im so confused, how does using teams help team building?

[solid frigate]

yep Cybertron build loads of teams lol-

[charred saddle]

you will understand how a solid team works

[rustic mountain]

moxie did well b4 any result irl he had

[foggy lodge]

You can understand archetypes, roles of each Pokémon,how to pivot it, weaknesses of theteams

[rustic mountain]

its possible but just not the same

[dapper crag]

Anyone prepping for reg G

[tough idol]

You u derstand how the mons work together by using them

[charred saddle]

moxie does a lot of niche teams, but he did a good piloting over them which i understand

[solid frigate]

i think some of them

[charred saddle]

he also explains some of his choices

[lofty tartan]

You can't build teams from scratch without strong game knowledge. Using teams built with strong knowledge and actually working to understand why the mons are there, what they do, and what matchups they influence, is key to being able to build your own teams down the road.

[rustic mountain]

most of us here are playing reg g idk wat u mean by prep

[charred saddle]

so i wouldnt say moxie is bad

[rustic mountain]

irl tours still are reg f rn

[dapper crag]

I have my team on cart tryna do some practice runs

[upbeat quail]

Aight can someone link me a good ice rider calyrex team

[foggy lodge]

I want to know how my teambuilding guide works but i don't remember

[dapper crag]

Prep is short for preparation

[rustic mountain]

i like that hes realistic. he plays that but knows its for fun and isnt something hes gna bring to a tour

[charred saddle]

like a how good balanced team feels. how a good TR team or HO team feels

[foggy lodge]

I feel like some random day i woke up and i learned about the meta what

[tough idol]

Cart practice doesn't work right now unless against another person in an arranged battle.

[lofty tartan]

The fact of the matter is that not everyone will be able to teambuild from scratch even aftter they've played the game for awhile, and a lot of professional players DO NOT build their own teams. They have playgroups and they test things together.

[dapper crag]

Yeah that's kind of why I'm in here asking... lol

[charred saddle]

since like if you just randomly starting out making random TR team you wont know how to make it good, unless you know or have a good standard

[tough idol]

Casual throws stupid teams that aren't VGC legal

[rustic mountain]

what r u prepping for if the irl tours are still reg f and reg g has just started. jus play sd games

[tough idol]

Do you have a paste for your team

[charred saddle]

ye ye, some of his videos are good

[lofty tartan]

I just run stuff into Casual Ladder and sometimes pull a real Reg G team, sometimes pull Triple Restricted

[rustic mountain]

i dont watch him much but i see him on twitter

[charred saddle]

even his weird ass tech team still has like a good explanation behind that

[dapper crag]

I enjoy the idea of reg F more??? Why are u guys so mad lmao

[charred saddle]

i watch him jjust because my usual poketubers dont uplaod

[timber falcon]

it might be a but cringe but i do look up to players like wolfe, i love the creativity of being able to use what u want and making it work, but i have no idea how he does it, even after wathcing his vids

[charred saddle]

i usually watch cyvertron, jamesbaek

[foggy lodge]

I watch Neil and Moxie boosted

[charred saddle]

wolfe maybe, but his videos are too long so ye

[tough idol]

Did that, beat a triple restricted with my team, Caly S had no EVs ad id forgotten to do them. Still won

[foggy lodge]

Neil is also good

[tough idol]

[lofty tartan]

He doesn't solely just use what he wants. Wolfe 100% uses what's good, and also uses some niche picks because that's his style.

[charred saddle]

i feel Neil is too biased with his content idk

[rustic mountain]

i think u mean reg g. nd not mad jus not really at that point where prepping is even a thing for a format not even a week old yet

[lofty tartan]

At EUIC Wolfe ran the MOST plain Jane meta team.

100% generic goodstuff

[autumn vault]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2098195034 Zekrom just swept a miraidon team (all 4 KOs go to Zekrom)

[timber falcon]

i mean he picks one mon or smth like exeguttor and builds a team around it

[dapper crag]

Ah so you're one of the people who just copy others. Got it

[rustic mountain]

wolfey is also that good where he can make those niche picks work

[timber falcon]

somth like that, ofc i know he does pure meta sometimes

[dapper crag]

Bcuz there's definitely Japanese testing this rn

[lofty tartan]

Did he actually run Exeggutor at an official event? Because things like that are for content and Limitless stuff, most times

[charred saddle]

thats because he has the basic down

[lofty tartan]

I remember he was at Charlotte and then didn't compete til EUIC, right?

[autumn vault]

It was an online tournament

[tough idol]

Yh testing on Showdown

[charred saddle]

he didnt just start out nobody and use weird mon and win worlds

[timber falcon]

no

[lofty tartan]

Okay so online tournaments and official events have a wide skill gap

[rustic mountain]

i think ur the one whose mad here

also ive been top 500 in sd, i dont need to wait

but im still gna yoink those teams wen they hit

[solid frigate]

Zekrom:BOLT STRIKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[lofty tartan]

No shame

[rustic mountain]

no shame at all

[dapper crag]

More like no creativity

[timber falcon]

no problem with using good teams is there?

[lofty tartan]

I'm not trying to express myself. If I wanna do that I'll learn how to art.

[autumn vault]

See why i put it in B tier?

[lofty tartan]

I'm trying to play a competitive game against other people trying to win lmfawo

[solid frigate]

B for Bolt strike lol

[tough idol]

I suck at team building. So I don't. Mika to the rescue lol 😆

[timber falcon]

sounds like coping and seething ngl, if a team is good let people yoink the archetype or team

[autumn vault]

Also that and Bias

[lofty tartan]

Yo yo you want teams? I got teams.

[timber falcon]

show

[lofty tartan]

I build my own teams and I copy teams, you gotta probem widdat?

[autumn vault]

I got a Koraidon and Zekrom team

[solid frigate]

yoink the Archetype and show the Metas

[autumn vault]

Also a Calyrex-Ice team

[dapper crag]

Yeah and usually the ones winning the most are those who build unique shit bcuz its not meta and ppl haven't built around it since everyone else is also using the same 20 mons

[lofty tartan]

Are you sure?

[timber falcon]

didnt a guy copy wolfes team and win

[rustic mountain]

thats not the case at all

[solid frigate]

cap.

[rustic mountain]

literally

[lofty tartan]

Wolfe wins Charlotte and an exact identical clone of his team wins the next Regional

[rustic mountain]

bar for bar

[tough idol]

Yes, Liverpool Regional

[timber falcon]

yeah so u can copy and win ez

as long as u are skilled

[lofty tartan]

Playskill is the ultimate deciding factor.

[autumn vault]

Skilled players can win a lot if they know how a team/pokemon plays

[lofty tartan]

You can overcome bad matchups with skill and experience.

[bold geode]

You realize that most successful shit is just maybe a hint of variation from copy and paste
Like a move or two difference or EV difference

[autumn vault]

I can say this as a Zekrom user

[solid frigate]

heck i just throw Meta staples for My Terapagos Team,Incineroar,Urshifu and one of the Ogerpon and i need to try optimise it

[rustic mountain]

im not knocking trynna think outside the box cause u can and players have won doing that but thats not generally wats winning ppl irl tours

[bold geode]

Yeah
It's ok to be a vanilla bitch

[tough idol]

Did make me chucked yesterday though @lofty tartan

Wolfe basically missed cut because he lost to that Fezandipiti team in Swiss

[timber falcon]

meta makes the game easier to understand

imagine literally ANYTHING being complete viable

[solid frigate]

In VGC its perfectly fine for it

[foggy lodge]

Yeah i don't want to think about every single Pokémon in the game

[lofty tartan]

Hey man if a mon can do damage it can take KOs - if it can take KOs it can win games 🤷

[dapper crag]

Kricketune OP

[tough idol]

Tofus Pikachu team ftw

[lofty tartan]

No. Lol

[timber falcon]

no

[solid frigate]

[dapper crag]

Lots of dense autism

[tough idol]

Anyway @dapper crag do you have a paste for your team?

[dapper crag]

I love it here

[lofty tartan]

That's pretty uncalled for

[solid frigate]

ok thats just straight up rude

[lofty tartan]

You must be a really likeable dude

[timber falcon]

idk how that mf does it, the bulk man using pikachu?

[molten oasis]

it didnt reply to the right message fuck

ANYWAY how are we doing

[solid frigate]

F

[timber falcon]

swell

[solid frigate]

its fine-

[molten oasis]

...

what did i miss

[charred saddle]

u miss me

[lofty tartan]

Doing okay, Drago. And nothing important at all.

[willow vault]

Pretty good, how are you?

[rustic mountain]

lets jus ignore em yall

no reason to engage with that

[molten oasis]

i see

[bold geode]

No

[lofty tartan]

Yeah man you didn't miss nothin'

[tough idol]

Hey at least it's not the Bezos guy claiming Fluttermane needs a buff and Urshifu is a Support mon.

[autumn vault]

Just a player coping

[charred saddle]

fuckoff

[rustic mountain]

hopefully an actual mod can come help soon i let em know about wat was said

[bold geode]

Engage with me
Why you a Tree

[lofty tartan]

Thanks, Tree

[charred saddle]

but ur red tho tree

[full rivet]

Not appropriate. Check yourself and give #rules a good once over. Those kinds of comments won't be tolerated.

[bold geode]

Who's off

[solid frigate]

Tree moment

[upbeat quail]

Rayquaza gonna be good?

[timber falcon]

nice to know

[autumn vault]

Yes

[molten oasis]

yea anyway, im fine

[autumn vault]

Me too Drago

[molten oasis]

were getting zacian to work slowly

[rustic mountain]

im not a real mod, this is a joke from another mod from me not finishing the epilogue

[solid frigate]

definently Replacing Dragonite if you want

[autumn vault]

Just destroying people on ladder with Zekrom, all good

[timber falcon]

ok back to compet, im having a spatcker crisis what do i do

[bold geode]

That is definitely a deep fried meme that exists

[solid frigate]

thats the spirit

[molten oasis]

ive just decided howl isnt a playstyle that works with how i play the game

[lofty tartan]

I've just been trying to have fun with Reg G pushing Kyurem-W into folks.

[shrewd scarab]

There isn’t any need for comments like this. Don’t do it again

[upbeat quail]

I’ve been toying with a swords dance, E-speed, and dragon ascent build

[foggy lodge]

Ok i was labbing

[lofty tartan]

The format so far has felt great

[upbeat quail]

Stab flying at 120bp is so good

[foggy lodge]

Rayquaza as a special attacker?

[rustic mountain]

thanks monk

[timber falcon]

good for you

[shrewd scarab]

[solid frigate]

kek

[autumn vault]

Go get them Drago, you can do it, just do it, make your dreams come true

[molten oasis]

zama being better rn fucking hurts lol

[timber falcon]

disney type shit

[bold geode]

You're not appropriate with that cuteness (rizz levels 0)

[solid frigate]

yeah Body Press Iron Defense-

[timber falcon]

making a zama team rn

[rustic mountain]

oh ty as well stryxx

[bold geode]

That is a motherfuckin tree moment if I've ever seen one

[tough idol]

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

speaking of zama, anyone see a zama team lately?

i wanna copy

[molten oasis]

no

[upbeat quail]

Could y’all see a mixed rayquaza set working?

[solid frigate]

Not really

[autumn vault]

I was copying a meme OTOT

[lofty tartan]

Nah I don't like mixed Ray.

[molten oasis]

im already picked out my 3 restricteds im playing with primarily

[solid frigate]

also Water Ogerpon or Fire Ogerpon

[autumn vault]

I do have one but i played like 2 matches with it

[molten oasis]

zac mirai and terap

[shrewd scarab]

Depends on sun or rain

[solid frigate]

EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy

[bold geode]

Prefer mine stirred

[rustic mountain]

jus commit to one or the other if ur trynna use it, its really rough rn imo

[timber falcon]

no zama teams?

[lofty tartan]

Espeed Rayquaza w/Chien-Pao is good enough.

[molten oasis]

ok mr koraidion abuser

[autumn vault]

it is zekrom abuser to you

[solid frigate]

Terapagos,Kyogre and Lunala for me

[molten oasis]

uh huh

[rustic mountain]

jus feels like dnite/chien pao should b there with a better restricted

[autumn vault]

but also that yes

[timber falcon]

lunala, zama, caly-ice best

[lofty tartan]

I don't disagree. Inner Focus is really strong

[rustic mountain]

yea

[bold geode]

Ayo mod with the comp knowledge

[molten oasis]

also whoever said miraidon was mid yesterday

[upbeat quail]

I’ll just play bulky ray

[rustic mountain]

ok gl

[autumn vault]

Koraidon Zekrom and Calyrex-Ice all the way

[molten oasis]

no lol. its very good and i think we all overestimated it

[upbeat quail]

Jk

[shrewd scarab]

What do you mean? Trees here too lol

[bold geode]

Oh it's Monk

[rustic mountain]

im not actually mod tho

[molten oasis]

it has to deal with rilla

[solid frigate]

Underestimated*

[lofty tartan]

Tree isn't a real mod - he's an imposter.

[bold geode]

But Tree's a fake mod
Not my mod
Not my Rodrick

[timber falcon]

how?

[charred saddle]

nono

red = mod

[molten oasis]

lmao

[lofty tartan]

HE'S A PRETENDER

[charred saddle]

tree is mod in my heart

[shrewd scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[timber falcon]

WHY DOES HE HAVE THE ROLE IM SO CONFUSED

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Just like this person is a fake at building teams

[rustic mountain]

[tough idol]

Tree = Harcanine = Fraud

[shrewd scarab]

[charred saddle]

fuck off

[lofty tartan]

Dude I'm a fake at building teams you shut up

[bold geode]

Tree has the color against its will

[timber falcon]

am i falling prey to a joke or smth

[lofty tartan]

Not me playing 222 variants

[charred saddle]

monk can you please get rid of monke plz. this man harasses me

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Tree be like

[rustic mountain]

h arc didnt win 6 regionals for these fraud allegations

[molten oasis]

at least its not gambit rn

[bold geode]

He wouldn't
Monk is one letter off from Monke
We're brothers

[rustic mountain]

lets respect the legacy

[molten oasis]

gambit facing the mid allegations rn

[lofty tartan]

Mid until it pins Caly-S

[molten oasis]

you literally agreed with me monke lmao

[rustic mountain]

i never felt less threatened by something then gambit in this format

[charred saddle]

then he got kowtowed

[timber falcon]

say that to lando-T, never escaping the fraud allegations

[shrewd scarab]

But I’m not Monk anymore

[rustic mountain]

lando t had years of success before sv

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/ada39c74c14f4a79

[bold geode]

That's the joke lmao
He didn't win

[rustic mountain]

literally was that guy

[molten oasis]

Therian doesnt even feel good lol

i took it for a spin it just felt bad

[solid frigate]

that feels good

[bold geode]

Wow just gonna do me like that

[charred saddle]

no one plays thundurus with defiant again in SV

[timber falcon]

powercreep crept up to it

[lofty tartan]

People are insane, aren't they, Tree

[pearl wind]

[rustic mountain]

must not know jjk

[charred saddle]

like gen 8 defiant thundurus is funny

[lofty tartan]

Like Waterpon goes to 23% usage and people are like OMG WATERPON FELL OFF

[molten oasis]

pff

[timber falcon]

ive seen it once actually

i lost

[bold geode]

|| Gojo did not win sir ||

[rustic mountain]

thundurus w/ defiant was a 1 gen thing cuz dmax. lando was good since inception up until recently

[molten oasis]

i havent watched jjk

[timber falcon]

liar goatjo will come back

[molten oasis]

first season got me incredibly bored out of my mind

[shrewd scarab]

I wish they would make an ability that puts pokemon to sleep when they make physical contact similar to flame body with burn

[molten oasis]

i didnt even finish it lol

[bold geode]

Diced or chopped?

[rustic mountain]

hha i think its jus knee jerk reactions. like whats current always is gna weigh more then what has been

[lofty tartan]

Please god no contact sleep

[shrewd scarab]

Like plant pokemon has sleep powder skin

[molten oasis]

contact sleep would make me quit

[bold geode]

Oh we talking manga material rn dw

[pearl wind]

effect spore can do that i think? just low chance

[shrewd scarab]

Tree?

[dapper crag]

There should be a item that stops u from being crit

[timber falcon]

he won off an asspull, Gege protecting his king

[rustic mountain]

this would be insane

[molten oasis]

there should be an item that buffs your defense stat like av

[lofty tartan]

Most viable sweepers in VGC are physical. Contact sleep would be seriously OP if it didn't have a chance to trigger something less-threatening than sleep.

[molten oasis]

and some kind of spA intimidate or something

[shrewd scarab]

It would shake the meta up

[timber falcon]

i mean theres an ability at least,

[solid frigate]

appearently not- which is sad

[timber falcon]

but we have intim

[molten oasis]

also frostbite should be replaced for freeze

[solid frigate]

i mean snarl exist but thats about it

[rustic mountain]

depending on who gets it and what it entails itd be broken

[lofty tartan]

^^^

[molten oasis]

fr

[tough idol]

Give it to Mega Ammongus

[timber falcon]

effect spore

[shrewd scarab]

They could call the ability sandman

[tough idol]

Break the Shroon lol 😆

[rustic mountain]

haha oh god

[solid frigate]

the thing is that mega amoonguss might waste on a Mega spot unless they make its stats broken

[shrewd scarab]

Now That would be insane lol

[lofty tartan]

Effect Spore has a chance to trigger something that isn't sleep, and the trigger is only 10% chance

[molten oasis]

cuz im bored anyone wanna bo3?

[timber falcon]

what about spore of effect

[dapper crag]

Ability: Effect Spore

30% chance a Pokemon making contact with this Pokemon will be poisoned, paralyzed, or fall asleep.

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

Give Mega Incineroar a intimidate + regenerator

[solid frigate]

sure ig

[lofty tartan]

30% my bad

[molten oasis]

ok, user?

[solid frigate]

MorrisPXG456

[lofty tartan]

But still - it has a chance to not sleep.

Only sleep on contact would be pretty busted.

[tough idol]

[rustic mountain]

effect spore is balanced cuz 30%, make contact and is 3 seperate status'

[shrewd scarab]

You mean like an ability that deflects sleep?

[timber falcon]

cant forget base 160 health and both defences

[solid frigate]

i will throw my desk

[molten oasis]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2098210416

[dapper crag]

Will effect spore only choose Para and sleep if the target can't be poisoned?

[bold geode]

Tree
|| You see Miguel goofy ass lmao ||

[rustic mountain]

that had me laughing

[shrewd scarab]

I gotta go for now but before I do…. @rustic mountain Why is brooks outfit in one piece: Red so drippy?

[rustic mountain]

im not sure but i think so

it might bypass tho im not 100%

[bold geode]

Why'd he not do that with Gojo

[rustic mountain]

cuz brook is that guy

[bold geode]

Bro really let Gojo fold his ass like an omelette

[rustic mountain]

also i dont know the outfit i didnt watch film red

[shrewd scarab]

Yea you right

[dapper crag]

Could be useful tech into certain metas

[shrewd scarab]

it was alright. Not my favorite but wasn’t horrible

[rustic mountain]

yea ppl seemed to like it

[lofty tartan]

If a pokemon cannot be poisoned but it lands on poison as the trigger, it fails

[timber falcon]

gojo was holding back

[rustic mountain]

im jus one of those where if its not official idc

[dapper crag]

Damn

[rustic mountain]

interesting

[shrewd scarab]

The drip

[lofty tartan]

Same for something like Vital Spirit/Insomnia. If Effect Spore hits sleep but that ability is present, it just causes it to fail.

[rustic mountain]

the bandana is crazy haha

[molten oasis]

brook has the best drip

[rustic mountain]

i fw it tho

[bold geode]

More glaze than a donut shop

[shrewd scarab]

Frfr lol

Aight later everyone. Be good be respectful

[dapper crag]

Anyone cooking with lugia

[rustic mountain]

later monk

[timber falcon]

i will be doing once theres a meta

lugia tied no.1 fav mon

[bold geode]

Fuck off (have a good day sir)

[rustic mountain]

lugia seems really tough to use rn

[dapper crag]

Same lugia is my favorite restricted but it'll be hard to make work

[rustic mountain]

someone prolly is, idk if any1 here

[willow vault]

Nah bronzong just clutched up against a Miraidon. Absolute W

[rustic mountain]

might b better off waiting for double restricted

ur gna have to work really hard to compensate for lugias lackluster damage

[pearl wind]

[rustic mountain]

either via set up or partners

[dapper crag]

I'm using a meme team rn, set up

[lofty tartan]

I saw a CM Lugia set but I was unimpressed

[timber falcon]

REALLY hard

[dapper crag]

I'm doing more of a stall strategy

Pokémon No. 249: Lugia

Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/90/130/90/154/110

Total

680

SableyeBot version 4.27.0

[foggy lodge]

Oh

[timber falcon]

i despise stall so damn much, what do you gain?

[pearl wind]

damn lugia is fat

[foggy lodge]

That's

[dapper crag]

I gain dopamine

[foggy lodge]

Not a good attack stat

[dapper crag]

From ppl rage quitting

[timber falcon]

lugia is bulky but is killing NOTHING and manages to lose to top restricted mons lol

like all of em

[foggy lodge]

Caly Shadow, Caly Ice, Lunala

[lofty tartan]

Loses to Kyurem-W too. 154 spDef is gonna make it take some hits though

(Turboblaze ignores Multiscale)

[foggy lodge]

Ohh it has multiscale

[lofty tartan]

Yes

[foggy lodge]

Still i don't see a reason to use it

[lofty tartan]

I saw I think a pokesports video with shed tail switches into Lugia

[foggy lodge]

You can break it with something like fake out

[lofty tartan]

Because Multiscale will apply to the Substitute

So Lugia stays at full HP while the sub takes reduced damage 🤷

[foggy lodge]

It has shed tail??

[lofty tartan]

No you use something else with Shed Tail to switch into Lugia.

Shed Tail gives the switched-in pokemon the Sub

[foggy lodge]

Ohh

[lofty tartan]

I'm not saying it was good- just that I saw it

[foggy lodge]

If it had shed tail it would have been a buff

Not a good buff because shed tail is not so good in VGC

[timber falcon]

can lugia work at all

[foggy lodge]

But it would have been something

[molten oasis]

abusive calm mind user ig

[timber falcon]

says the swords dance user

[dapper crag]

Whirlpool protect recover psych up

[lofty tartan]

I guess it can work

Working is a low bar.

It isn't likely to be very good

[molten oasis]

let me like swords dance lol

ggs

[solid frigate]

ggs

[lofty tartan]

Most things can work, really.

[timber falcon]

ggs cant believe you forfeit

[molten oasis]

i thought it did less i wasnt paying attention

[timber falcon]

btw for those who didnt watch drago forfeit in a winnin position, like guaranteed win

[molten oasis]

OTOT shut up man

[solid frigate]

bro-

[tough idol]

[bold geode]

Lol

[solid frigate]

Is it Scarf Urshifu-

[molten oasis]

its like, with all of you you all shove losses into my face

[timber falcon]

hehe lmao i was praying on dragos lost for game 3 to laugh my ass off

[molten oasis]

STOP DOING THAT

[solid frigate]

OTOT shut up

[timber falcon]

im sorry

[lofty tartan]

Man, read the room

[molten oasis]

not all of you but yk who you are

[timber falcon]

i typed it too late mb

[bold geode]

Damn it I had joke

[molten oasis]

monke, dont

[bold geode]

Fuck I still replied

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/the-creatures-gassy-mexican-no-slap-gif-3449242

[tough idol]

4-0 Certified joke?

[timber falcon]

but hey u won

[molten oasis]

so anyway anyone else wanna go?

[timber falcon]

ill do it

[molten oasis]

k

[bold geode]

Damn near made me choke fucker

[solid frigate]

i need to thhink which Ogerpon-

[timber falcon]

im bored and havent used lunala team against one of u

[molten oasis]

user?

[solid frigate]

Somehow Terapagos does not have Shell smash,ITS A FUCKING TURTLE

[foggy lodge]

ok random question, anyone wants to play Smash?

[timber falcon]

Totorules

[solid frigate]

give Terapagos shell smash next gen

i don't need to run Meteor Beam if Terapagos has that

[molten oasis]

where did you go?

[lofty tartan]

Lemme spectate @molten oasis

[timber falcon]

My data stopped connecting to my laptop

[molten oasis]

bruh

[molten oasis]

will do

[timber falcon]

One sec

[foggy lodge]

I found the rental wujuu

[solid frigate]

huh

[molten oasis]

double dark gambit, ehhh

[solid frigate]

kowtow and sucker?

[molten oasis]

yes with swords dance

[timber falcon]

Drago re send ima just use my phone

[solid frigate]

i swear thats German-

[molten oasis]

ok

[solid frigate]

or french

or spanish

[molten oasis]

still says youre offline

[foggy lodge]

It's spanish

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-horizons-gif-491322984974427334

[molten oasis]

there it goes

[foggy lodge]

Paleosíntesis

[solid frigate]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[molten oasis]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2098222997 @lofty tartan

[foggy lodge]

I realised

It has 5 protects what

[molten oasis]

great burn

ggs

@tough idol ready?

[timber falcon]

Ggwp

[tough idol]

Yh im here

[lofty tartan]

Link it

[molten oasis]

user?

[timber falcon]

Can I watch the match?

[lofty tartan]

😄

[bold geode]

One question before you do

[tough idol]

User is Legion79

[timber falcon]

Fr that was lucky

[molten oasis]

i missplayed pretty hard and i should have brought rilla

[timber falcon]

Stoped moongus from dying

[molten oasis]

just did not play well that match

[bold geode]

Would you eat a turd kebab from China No. 3 Shrek edition?

[molten oasis]

legion what is your user?

[solid frigate]

what-

[lofty tartan]

I feel like you had an opening to double up and just ko Amoonguss with spinner/Cudgel but you split focus and bit a protect for your troubles

[molten oasis]

oh im so dumblmao

[tough idol]

Legion79

[timber falcon]

I feel like our matches are always repetitive tbh, in the outcomes at least. I normally win then lose

[bold geode]

Would you Drago

[molten oasis]

yea

[lofty tartan]

It's good to review though

[molten oasis]

wtf is that

[solid frigate]

wait what is that-

[timber falcon]

Depends is it an actual turd though

[bold geode]

Its exactly what I said
Don't read into it

[molten oasis]

then no

[solid frigate]

even as an actual Chinese here idk what the fu- is that

[molten oasis]

cuz idk wtf it is

[bold geode]

Hey man
It's Shrek edition

[timber falcon]

Why tf did i search up turd kebab

[bold geode]

I didn't
Did you?

[timber falcon]

Yes 😭😭

[solid frigate]

I am gonna throw up-

[molten oasis]

why are you looking this up wtf

[bold geode]

Why did you lmao

[willow vault]

I’m glad I didn’t search it up

[timber falcon]

I WAS CURIOUS and now I’m regretful

[solid frigate]

where is the nearest Garbodor-

[bold geode]

That was just me saying dumb shit
I didn't tell y'all to look it up

Who all looked it up lmao

[timber falcon]

I just didn’t think it through

I think I’m the only dumbass who did lol

[solid frigate]

i also did-

[bold geode]

Tbf I kinda wanna look it up now

[timber falcon]

LMAO

[solid frigate]

and i need a Garbordor-

[timber falcon]

Also where is legion vs Drago match

I’ve never seen legion play

[willow vault]

Probably didn’t bother letting us see

[molten oasis]

caly s

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2098232733\

[willow vault]

Caly-I

[solid frigate]

oh no

[bold geode]

I will admit
I looked it up
Not as bad as I thought

[upbeat quail]

Oh yeah, rayquaza is busted. One swords dance and most non-resisted attacks kill

[timber falcon]

It’s shit on a kebab wym

[bold geode]

I've seen worse

[solid frigate]

give me a plastic bag or Paper Bag

[bold geode]

I have seen worse

[solid frigate]

i seen worse as well but that-

[molten oasis]

ggs

[bold geode]

It's disgusting
But it's not the worst thing

[tough idol]

GG

[molten oasis]

im done

[foggy lodge]

I hate console ladder

[molten oasis]

that mu sucks

[timber falcon]

Lando-I still relevant I guess

[molten oasis]

fucking just, ugh

what do i do into tailwind

[lofty tartan]

I liked that line @tough idol and I saw what you were doing

[molten oasis]

droping this team man that felt awful

[timber falcon]

Speed control is needed then

[molten oasis]

i hate that i FEEL REQUIRED to run speed control rn

ugh, k well, im done for the day

[willow vault]

It happens in most restricted formats

[molten oasis]

gonna drop this damn team

[mild wolf]

Do it!

[solid frigate]

shut

[timber falcon]

Bro.

[mild wolf]

Oh you meant like delete?

[molten oasis]

ggs everyone im gonna go do something productive

[timber falcon]

Yeah…

[molten oasis]

as in go sleep

[willow vault]

Cya

[timber falcon]

Gn

Or maybe it’s a nap

[mild wolf]

Thought you meant like drop the paste here. No worries

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-gloogy-pokemon-good-evening-gif-10193450954131579046

[timber falcon]

Man I feel like 💩

[willow vault]

Good evening

[foggy lodge]

What time is there lol

[timber falcon]

10pm for me

[foggy lodge]

Here it's 5PM

[willow vault]

Rn for me it’s 10pm

[timber falcon]

🤝

[solid frigate]

10pm gang

[timber falcon]

Compet at night hits hard ngl

[solid frigate]

UK?

[willow vault]

gmt goes crazy

[timber falcon]

Yessir

[willow vault]

Yessir

[solid frigate]

[foggy lodge]

lmao

[willow vault]

Great minds think alike

[timber falcon]

Lmaooo

[tough idol]

Gonna try some other teams out tomorrow

[molten oasis]

its 3 for me

[tough idol]

I'm also 10pm gang

[willow vault]

am or pm

[willow vault]

Heck yeah

[molten oasis]

pm

https://pokepast.es/f724b583c713fe14 anyone wanna play with this shit team go for it im not touching it

[tough idol]

No work until 13th too, so messing with Pokemon stuff it is until about 3am

[timber falcon]

I’ll take the grimsnarl set it’s rly nice tbh

[willow vault]

You wanna play Palkia trick room with Bronzong?

[molten oasis]

no

[willow vault]

But it’s epic

[molten oasis]

the grimmsnarl set doesnt work if indeedee exists

and from that match indeedee just isnt a fun mu at all

i got pinned so fucking easily

[solid frigate]

indeedee feels like a Perfect Partner for most teams-

[molten oasis]

idk what im supposed to do with zac man, ive tried so much shit

[tough idol]

Yh the Indeedee plus Poison Tera Lando I kinda did it

[timber falcon]

Hmm I do see that with farig too

[molten oasis]

yea

[timber falcon]

Maybe I’ll look for ways to kill em

[foggy lodge]

Anyone wants to play reg G bo3? I want to test the Lunala team

[molten oasis]

what is supposed to feel good about zaC when all anyone needs is speed control and anti prio to fucking beat me

[timber falcon]

I’m right here with my lunala team

[molten oasis]

the team relies too much on fo and priority

[timber falcon]

Does scarf count as speed control btw

[molten oasis]

yes

[timber falcon]

Oh ok that’s nice to know

[timber falcon]

So do u wanna battle?

[foggy lodge]

Sure

JuliHD

[timber falcon]

Aight

[molten oasis]

have fun. im gonna go theory build another zacian team and then not play it for days

[willow vault]

Could just play a different restricted

[timber falcon]

Sent

[molten oasis]

i want to get zacian to work

[willow vault]

Could try gouging fire howl shenanigans

[tough idol]

I'm gonna go spitball some zacian stuffs

[tough idol]

Lol

[foggy lodge]

Can you send it again?

[molten oasis]

im going in a circle

howl stuff balance stuff howl stuff

literal circle

[willow vault]

How about tailwind stuff

[timber falcon]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2024regg-2098242602 if anyone wants to watch

[tough idol]

That's what I'm thinking about throwing into a 'team'

[foggy lodge]

Accept the open teamsheet too

[molten oasis]

thres jsut literally better restricteds to put on a tailwind team

ie caly s

everything is HO and im playing balance

[tough idol]

I wanna try Throat Spray Farig Shadow Ball (I know prob bad)

[molten oasis]

probably better than what i have

[rustic mountain]

test it, see how it feels

[tough idol]

I know it KOs Caly S with little investment is all

[rustic mountain]

off rip seems weird but u never know

[tough idol]

Only pain for me is mobile lol 😆 takes forever to put stuff together

[foggy lodge]

gg

[molten oasis]

ill go try howl stuff AGAIN ig

[bold geode]

I wanna post a gif of Elon Musk on that Joe Rogan episode but I can't

[tough idol]

I don't even know who Joe Rogan is

[molten oasis]

doesnt change my mu's into shit at all

rain torn lando ruins my life

[willow vault]

I believe has something to do with the ufc, and does a podcast

[bold geode]

He's one of them folks on the interwebs grandpa

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/29a45d2bfc3cd460 ill go back to this ig

[willow vault]

Ok gl

[tough idol]

[willow vault]

More like 0-4

I have no idea what I’m yapping about

[bold geode]

You motherfucker put that away before Tofu sees

I'm gonna have fucking flashbacks tonight now