competitive_discussion

[grizzled bronze]

swsh?

[cold ivy]

i have swsh

[grizzled bronze]

usum? oras? bw?

[cold ivy]

i dont think i have tjem in there ill check

[craggy dagger]

do you have the dlc for swsh?
cause you can do dynamax adventures for them

[cold ivy]

i dont have pc so i only have the switch games

or a ds

[grizzled bronze]

fair

so your best options are either pla, swsh, or go

[craggy dagger]

you should be able to get them in swsh-
just a little bit of looking around in the max lair

[cold ivy]

pla is legends arceus?

[grizzled bronze]

yup

[craggy dagger]

yep

[grizzled bronze]

isnt torn an exclusive tho

[cold ivy]

i got tornadus and landorus cloud in pokemon sword so im transfering them over

[craggy dagger]

dont think so?

[cold ivy]

its thunderous thats an exclusive

[grizzled bronze]

sword exclusive

[cold ivy]

i think to shield

[grizzled bronze]

thundurus is shield

[grizzled bronze]

oh nice

[craggy dagger]

Ho-Oh, Latios, Groudon, Dialga, Tornadus, Reshiram, Xerneas and Solgaleo are Sword exclusive. Lugia, Latias, Kyogre, Palkia, Thundurus, Zekrom, Yveltal and Lunala are Shield exclusive.

[cold ivy]

ill be back once i get each of the pokemon to lvl 100 to get the best moveset for each of em

[grizzled bronze]

you dont really need to get to lvl 100

[cold ivy]

oh

[grizzled bronze]

just go at least lvl 50, have the right moves and you're fine

it'll scale down to level 50 anyways

[cold ivy]

they’re all 50+

[whole ibex]

Y’all feel like Wolfey hates Incin too much?

[grizzled bronze]

yeah just give them the right movepools and give pp ups to low pp noves

[grizzled bronze]

i think it's just a joke honestly but not sure

[tough idol]

@cold ivy check Serebii.net and make sure they've learnt the level moves they need

[craggy dagger]

well-
incin is kinda-
on almost every team-

incin is just-
too good-
its why i hate it

[cold ivy]

what moveset would be good for each of them?

[tough idol]

I tanked Ultra Ball from 1 win to MB against Incin teams, then started using my RS Urshi, then bounced back and made it

[craggy dagger]

im just-
doing showdonw stuff

and getting nowhere cause im playing "gimmicks"

[grizzled bronze]

incin is just "that guy"

[cold ivy]

https://pokepast.es/e3febd0850df8ae0
is this good moveset

the stats are off on bolt bc hyper trained

[tough idol]

Very much no

[cold ivy]

o

[tough idol]

Torn, Lando both Special Atk so those sets don't really work

Incin needs Intimidate

[cold ivy]

what moves would u reccokend for tornadus/landorus

[tough idol]

Also you don't have items specified

[cold ivy]

they dont have items yet

[tough idol]

Items sometimes depend on what your moveset is.

[cold ivy]

ok

[tough idol]

Hoping there's someone here that can link the place to look at popular sets. I can't remember the link.

That was my Lando/Torn, but it's a different team to your plan

[cold ivy]

yeah

[solid frigate]

damn

[bold geode]

Not enough monkey

[solid frigate]

3/10 no Monke

[cold ivy]

what movesets would u recommend for my team?

[tough idol]

Rillaboom the Recluse will come soon

https://pokepast.es/e3febd0850df8ae0 need some input from other guys on this.

They know as it is won't work and I can't remember which link to send them too smogon or the other one (I know ones singles)

[bold geode]

What even

[cold ivy]

im new to comp lmao

[bold geode]

What is this for

[cold ivy]

doubles

[bold geode]

So VGC?

[cold ivy]

i think thats what its called

i wanna start on ranked once i get that team all good and ready

[bold geode]

Ok so yeah

Then oh man there's a lot to fix here

[cold ivy]

lmao

[tough idol]

I covered a few basics and gave my Torn, Lando sets

[cold ivy]

should i make my torn lando ur moveset or nah?

[tough idol]

Depends on synergy with team

[cold ivy]

oh

[tough idol]

Monke is far better than me to help with building

[cold ivy]

oh ok

[tough idol]

You also may end up with a Monkey in you're team

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/37202ed6d16ce4e2
Legion I fixed the movesets, help from there

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[tough idol]

Incin needs Intimidate
Landorus Sheer Force
Iirc

[cold ivy]

i gotta lvl tornadus up a bit and prob thunderus for the bleakwind and storm

[bold geode]

Ok gimme a minute and I'll give a breakdown

[tough idol]

I'm the never used Bolt guy (I have 3 sat doing nothing atm lol)

I hit MB using my Regional team with 1 change (Chi Yu dropped for Flamepon)

[bold geode]

So
The reason why I gave the mons the movesets I did

[fallow pumice]

Hey what should i do with said flutter mane

[scarlet otter]

Choice Specs

Only 1 word: Choice Specs

Spamm dazzling gleam and nuke button moon blast

[fallow pumice]

Whats choice specs

[scarlet otter]

There you go delete that message

[cold ivy]

uh

boost’s speed but only 1 move i think

[scarlet otter]

Item that boost special moves by x1.5 but locks you into 1 move until you switch out

[tough idol]

It's a held item

[last yarrow]

That's choice scarf

[scarlet otter]

Where did you get that idea from

[cold ivy]

idk

[bold geode]

Raging Bolt is good with that moveset if it has like Booster Energy for example. Calm Mind can be done with Leftovers, or even replacing Protect with Snarl if you want AV. Electric Tera is alright, but Fairy is good too.

Incineroar is a support mon, not an attacker. It wants Intimidate and that moveset to mess with the pace of the battle and to switch in and out to weaken opponents damage output. Ghost/Grass/Water tera can be good and I'd recommend either Impish or Careful, even Adamant can work

Tornadus wants speed control with Tailwind and Bleakwind is a double targeting Hurricane so. Steel or Ghost tera can work. It also wants like Timid or Bold nature iirc.

Landorus I is a special attacker, and Sandsear is Ground Hurricane so. Poison or Steel can work and it wants Sheer Force. It wants Timid

Ogerpon looks fine, except I'd give it Adamant or Jolly nature. Usually we do Follow Me over Swords Dance, but SD can be interesting too.

Lastly Chien Pao just wanted Protect. I'd recommend Focus Sash and Tera Ghost

Legion help from here lmao

[cold ivy]

choice things are all the same, i just dont know what stats are which lmao

[tough idol]

Easy to mix the choice items up tbf lol

[fallow pumice]

Where do u find this choice specs

[scarlet otter]

Before you make the team in SV

Go to website Pokemon Showdown

To teambuild and try the team

Until you feel comfortable with it

[cold ivy]

how do i change ability to intimidate?

none of my incin line knows intimidate

[scarlet otter]

Ability patch, but 1st you should go to showdown and try the team

[cold ivy]

alright

[bold geode]

Ability Patch
Can find those with tera raids, usually 6-7 star or via trading

[cold ivy]

i have 7 capsules and 6 patches

[tough idol]

They are gonna use Incin, but they have Blaze so they need the Patch

[bold geode]

Then just use the patches on the Pokemon who's abilities need changed (Incineroar and Landorus Incarnate) and there you go

[cold ivy]

the team would be good for which doubles SV

ou, ubers, uu, lc

[scarlet otter]

SV uses VGC (doubles) and BSS (singles) format

[cold ivy]

oh ok

[scarlet otter]

Those are tiers only found in Showdown

[cold ivy]

VGC 2023 Reg D or
VGC 2024 Reg F?

[tough idol]

F

[scarlet otter]

Newest one is Reg F

[cold ivy]

alr

[tough idol]

You can theoretically get away with earlier Reg Teams, but power creep

[cold ivy]

i have to add 1 to each pokemon on ev and then change each lvl to 100

[scarlet otter]

Not necessarily

[tough idol]

Next Reg may just break it all lol

[cold ivy]

well to play it i have to add ev

[scarlet otter]

Every mon’s level is set to 50

[cold ivy]

to validate it

[scarlet otter]

Of course that’s to determine a mon’s stats

[cold ivy]

and it said landorus learns sandsear at 80

[bold geode]

It'll be VGC Regulation F

[scarlet otter]

Is this your 1st time in competitive?

[cold ivy]

yes 😭

[bold geode]

And in VGC on Showdown, level 50 is alright as in ranked (VGC) levels are automatically set to 50

[scarlet otter]

Don’t worry we can help you

[scarlet otter]

Already explained that

[solid frigate]

yeah you need to make EVs

[scarlet otter]

You need to add evs as those affect the stats

[cold ivy]

ok

[scarlet otter]

Each month has 508 evs

[cold ivy]

ill try my best to match them to my sv stats

[bold geode]

I didn't see that

[scarlet otter]

You can invest max 252 in each stat

And each time you inves 4 into a stat it increases the stat by 1

[solid frigate]

show it to us when its done

[scarlet otter]

@cold ivy

[cold ivy]

ok

[bold geode]

Oh my God this is fucking confusing

[tough idol]

And example for you

[scarlet otter]

You should make evs help your mon

[cold ivy]

oh i completely forgot, what items do i get for my pokemon

[scarlet otter]

Depends on the mon

And goal you wanna acomplish

[cold ivy]

i cant match raging bolt as hyper trained-

[solid frigate]

Incin either use Safety Goggles,Sitrus Berry or Lefties

[tough idol]

Lefties Incin?

[bold geode]

No Lefties Incin

[solid frigate]

i see some sets use them

[last yarrow]

Just double checking, I can post my team here with pokepaste to get feedback on it right?

[bold geode]

Those sets aren't it

[scarlet otter]

@cold ivy what mons are you putting in your team?

[tough idol]

Citrus, Figy or AV

[bold geode]

Yes
What format if I may ask

[scarlet otter]

Yeah of course

[cold ivy]

nvm

[solid frigate]

wait AV?

[scarlet otter]

Assault Vest

[bold geode]

Assault Vest

[solid frigate]

Ik its Assault Vest

[bold geode]

Also Goggles Incineroar best Incineroar change my mind

[last yarrow]

Regulation F, relatively new to competitive but I watched a ton of Wolfy's vids so I have an alright idea of what goes into it

[solid frigate]

But AV Incin when most Incin use Parting Shot?

[bold geode]

Oh we do a lot of VGC

[solid frigate]

i mean U turn exists but still

[last yarrow]

https://pokepast.es/8c074f0c005f916c

[scarlet otter]

Sitrus allows you tank one more hit from Urshifu-R or Land-T

[tough idol]

If you use AV use Knock, Flare, Fake Out, U Turn

[bold geode]

It was used a lot before Parting Shot, then after it slowly died down more and more cuz Parting Shot has a lot more value imo

[solid frigate]

ok fair thats Gen 7-

i think i remember now

[scarlet otter]

@last yarrow tera ghost Tornadus to precent fake out

[bold geode]

Land T is not as relevant and Urshifu Rapid can be a 1/16 with tera so
Plus it died down a bit so I'd be more worried about Amoongus

[scarlet otter]

Why calm mind Flutter

[tough idol]

Ran into a few of them this afternoon

Even hit a Tera Bug U Turn AV Incin lol 😆

[scarlet otter]

Moonblast seems like a better option as a nuke button

[solid frigate]

Use Coverage like Mystical Fire on Flutter

[last yarrow]

I like the added bulk and damage calm mind adds, and figured dazzling gleam spread damage would be good

[scarlet otter]

Nah Fairy and Ghost is enough coverage

[solid frigate]

but Calm Mind technically wasted a spot-

[scarlet otter]

Moonblast is far better and calm mind is not really good enough in adding bulk as most of it’s threats are physical

Choen Pao, Urshifu are all physical

[scarlet otter]

Moonblat is better than mystic fire

That move is only used in choice specs as 4th slot

[last yarrow]

Got it, swapping calm mind for moonblast then

[scarlet otter]

Also why Ninetails, there are better screens mons that can support way more like Grimmsnarl

And Land-T is a weird choice

[solid frigate]

does he wanna make a Snow team?

[bold geode]

I'm seeing some fat takes in here

[scarlet otter]

No, he only has ninetails for snow

[scarlet otter]

Not that he is bad just very big victim of powercreep

[scarlet otter]

Which ones?

[solid frigate]

Lando I feels better if he really wants to use it

[scarlet otter]

Yeah Lando I is far better and combos very well with Tornadus

[last yarrow]

I figured aurora veil would be good, from what I've seen it helps a lot with surviving hits that'd usually oneshot + getting both screens up at once saves a turn so I can helping hand or blizzard

[scarlet otter]

That’s understandable but Ninetails-A has horrible defensive typing

[solid frigate]

it only works on Snow,and sun and rain teams are decently popular

[scarlet otter]

So you are not taking many hits

You’ll get one shot fairly easily

[last yarrow]

So landorus T isn't as good anymore?

[scarlet otter]

And with the recent surge of rain dance Tornadus it’s hard to use Ninetails

[solid frigate]

its just not as valueable like it used to,Because god damn Incineroar

[scarlet otter]

Not that, just he is a victim of powercreep

[tough idol]

Lando T usage fell off, when Incin came back, Lando I is more popular now

[scarlet otter]

Incineroar shuts him down with intimidate and Lando I having more offensive capabilities

[scarlet otter]

Have to agree unfortunately

[solid frigate]

Yeah Fallen King

[scarlet otter]

Lando-T was annoying so I’m happy it’s not used anymore and now it’s in hell

[last yarrow]

Alright, thanks y'all for the feedback

[scarlet otter]

But I’m sad to see the cat in every tournament

[scarlet otter]

Np

[solid frigate]

at least like 20 teams-

[scarlet otter]

don’t finish that sentence

[solid frigate]

[tough idol]

It's here to stay for now.

[cold ivy]

https://pokepast.es/be3c06fd8137c18f

[solid frigate]

Give Incineroar Intimidate and Lando Sheer force

[cold ivy]

ok

[tough idol]

Drop Terrain and Voltage on Bolt for Thunderbolt and Protect

Wellspring drop Swords Dance for Follow Me
Chien Pao drop Ruination for Protect

All mons bar a couple are missing EVs

[solid frigate]

And EVs looks Lacking

[cold ivy]

i used mostly ivs to match stats

idk where to find the actual ev numbers

[tough idol]

IVs and EVs are different things

IV are the numbers assigned when you catch them (plus any Hypertraining)

[forest arrow]

What items are you considering for them as well

[tough idol]

EVs are the values you can alter that determine end stats

[cold ivy]

no clue 😃

[forest arrow]

Pao wants sash

[cold ivy]

ok

[tough idol]

Crap ignore

[cold ivy]

huh

[forest arrow]

Lando wants life orb, Incen probably wants sitrus or goggles

[tough idol]

https://www.vgcguide.com/ev-training#:~:text=What you need to know,train two stats per Pokémon.

Last one sent the Google link lol

[cold ivy]

i just added 20 sp def to ogerpon and changed the iv so it matches stats

[tough idol]

@cold ivy basic guide as to what EVs are in the game

[cold ivy]

okay

what should i give bolt and tornadus

[forest arrow]

Covert cloak/mental herb torn

Bolts commonly have AV atm iirc

[tough idol]

This is an example of the EVs (these are not end stats) use Pokemon Showdown to see what the stats end up as, saving in game resources

[cold ivy]

ill do herb on bolt

[cold ivy]

okay

[forest arrow]

Herb is no good on bolt

[cold ivy]

okay

so herb on tornadus and cloak on bolt?

[tough idol]

AV Bolt seems to be common

Cloak Torn

[cold ivy]

whats AB

[forest arrow]

Yeah Assault Vest

[cold ivy]

ohh

[forest arrow]

cloak torn

[cold ivy]

cloak on torn?

[forest arrow]

Yeah

[cold ivy]

ok

imma try the team now

wait

[tough idol]

Also very important

[cold ivy]

my ogerpon has 20+ iv for spcial defense

[forest arrow]

I suggest taking the Move changes Legion gave you earlier too, rising and terrain just isn’t really viable

[cold ivy]

does it need just 20

[forest arrow]

Pao wants protect

[cold ivy]

what move do i change for protect

[forest arrow]

ruination

[solid frigate]

all IVs except for Sp attack max

[tough idol]

Bolt Tera Fairy
Incin Dragon/Grass
Torn Ghost
Lando Poison
Chien Pao Ghost

[cold ivy]

no- i need 20 iv on special defense it says

and if i use max ivs itll change stats?

and i want it to match the pokemon in sv

[solid frigate]

do you mean EVs?

[solid frigate]

these are BS sometimes-

[tough idol]

Ogerpon is locked to all 20s in IVs

[solid frigate]

but you can max it out

[forest arrow]

You can max it to 31

[timber falcon]

I think 3 are already maxed

[cold ivy]

i just changed iv on spd to 20 and now im good

[tough idol]

@solid frigate they are new and don't quite understand the system

[solid frigate]

[timber falcon]

Also what’s the team

[cold ivy]

https://pokepast.es/2a63db9b42d4e4f3

thats the final outcome

[forest arrow]

There’s a guy you can give bottle caps and he will max out your IVs for stats you choose

[timber falcon]

Why am I seeing blaze Incin

[cold ivy]

uh i thought i changed that

[craggy dagger]

uhm-
you're missing a lot of EVs

[timber falcon]

Yeah

Dawg where are the pao evs

[cold ivy]

it says intimidate

[solid frigate]

i can try make the EVs for them if they want

[cold ivy]

but if i max ivs and use evs i cant lower the stats

[timber falcon]

Why would u want them low

[cold ivy]

should i get all my pokemon lvl 100 and use gbc on all them

[craggy dagger]

no

[cold ivy]

to match my sv stats

[tough idol]

Never use Gold

[forest arrow]

50 is all you need to get too

[craggy dagger]

gold bottle cap

[cold ivy]

okay

[timber falcon]

To match in game stats?

[craggy dagger]

dont do the cap-

[cold ivy]

ok

[craggy dagger]

please-

[cold ivy]

so just do gbc on them at their current lvl?

[timber falcon]

Don’t even need bottle cap for evs, just ev train em

[tough idol]

Regular Bottle Caps

For IVs you need

[cold ivy]

isnt ev training breeding??

[craggy dagger]

no
use vitamins please-

[timber falcon]

No-

[craggy dagger]

no IV is breeding, EV is vitamins

[cold ivy]

oh

[timber falcon]

Effort values

[craggy dagger]

Inherited Values VS Effort Values

[cold ivy]

i have 92 Zinc

what do i use on

[timber falcon]

Also no matter WHAT u always wanna use all evs

[craggy dagger]

this is uh
the easiest one to understand for me
https://youtu.be/H3yJekQmJN0?si=NHNxSaRmonlxDYrq

[timber falcon]

Yeah watch that

[solid frigate]

i can try edit your team if you want

[tough idol]

Don't use any in game resources until you've got a grasp of the system.

[cold ivy]

u can try if u want

[tough idol]

I made that mistake and it cost me a lot of hours grinding berries to reset my mistakes. (Pre mochi)

[timber falcon]

Also I’ve just noticed that’s your assault vest bolt seems to have protect

[craggy dagger]

legion makes a good point

[timber falcon]

Which it can’t use

So yeah remove that

[tough idol]

Ah yh maybe Calm Mind

[cold ivy]

ok

[timber falcon]

Also natures are off

[cold ivy]

huh

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/fc7fa2fa4433252c

@cold ivy

[tough idol]

Or be that rogue and run Fairy Tera Blast Bolt

[craggy dagger]

adamant pao-

[timber falcon]

Idk about weather ball

[forest arrow]

thats from sun team ignore that lol

thunderbolt in that slot

[tough idol]

Also glad I've hit Master Ball now. Before the influx of Snow teams come tomorrow

[craggy dagger]

weather ball isnt bad-

[timber falcon]

I don’t think webs are needed tbh, maybe snarl

[craggy dagger]

webs is good speed control
snarl imo is better cause SpA debuff

[timber falcon]

In fact weather ball might work

[craggy dagger]

we need an intimidate but special-

[forest arrow]

Yeah thats a sun Bolt meant to change the moves

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/796d2bda616b9a9a

[timber falcon]

Yeah apart from ivs looks good

Wait why booster

[forest arrow]

but better IV's EV's to get you started

[craggy dagger]

wouldnt you just want max IVs?

[cold ivy]

my bolt is hyper trained on all stats

[craggy dagger]

booster bolt to hit harder ig?

[solid frigate]

cuz i forgot if he want to make it as a Sun team

[timber falcon]

Wait btw why glasses torn

[tough idol]

I prefer Rain Dance on Torn over Protect

[timber falcon]

At that point u might aswell take advantage of protect

[cold ivy]

wait so im confused what is the final pokepaste set

[craggy dagger]

well if you're running booster you run protect yes-

[solid frigate]

can it do Sunny Day to make Bolt have another item for it?

[cold ivy]

so many moves and items 🫨

[solid frigate]

I was gonna say that Amoogus Spore

[timber falcon]

Yk when someone replies to you the box becomes yellow?

When u reply to me I don’t see nothin-

And it spooks me

[cold ivy]

he can turn off @

[solid frigate]

reply Ping off maybe

[timber falcon]

Taunt

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/4bf806117c53d7c7

[timber falcon]

Oh u can do that?

[solid frigate]

oh wait prankster-

[cold ivy]

torrent

[solid frigate]

?

[cold ivy]

my bolt is hyper trained all stats so the EVS u gave dont match

[solid frigate]

Hyper Train does not equal to EVs

[tough idol]

Nvm Prankster. Unless you're in TR you're oustpeeding the Shroom

[cold ivy]

but when i put them in the stats dont match up

[timber falcon]

Also why ghost Tera torn?

[cold ivy]

so theres no way to put them into sv

[timber falcon]

It alrdy got cloak

[solid frigate]

do you mean Incin? cuz i did not give tornadus Ghost Tera

oh wait nvm

[cold ivy]

torn has ghost tera someone said

[forest arrow]

Ghost is for HO Paonite stuff, I forgot what cybertron has said about it

[timber falcon]

Steel better

[tough idol]

Fighting immunity, a lot of CC Ursh about and the Paonites

[timber falcon]

Why would it ever need fighting immunity though

[forest arrow]

Cause people expect Tera steel

[cold ivy]

im a little confused rn, which pokepaste is the final draw and should i update into showdown to start using?

[timber falcon]

Steel helps much more threats that just e speed

Like specs flutter

[solid frigate]

lemme do some final touches

[forest arrow]

Is also weak to a lot too

[cold ivy]

okay

[timber falcon]

Ghost stops one singular play from happening-

And that’s normal type moves

[tough idol]

And fighting

[timber falcon]

But fighting wasn’t ever gonna be a problem

Paonite also isn’t as common, it’s better to cover for the more common plays

[tough idol]

I've come across a fair amount of Choice Locked Urshifu (Close Combat) and my Torn just has to Rain Dance then Bleak to finish.

Every tera Choice has its benefits and downfalls

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/3d5847dcddb7c64c
Final

[cold ivy]

alright

[timber falcon]

But in the end some are just better for the meta

Also rocky helm torn becoming popular by the day, quite interesting

[cold ivy]

i got this

[solid frigate]

should work

[cold ivy]

bro

what is population bomb, it took tornadus from 100 to 18% with like 10 hits

[solid frigate]

Loaded Dice Population Bomb

[cold ivy]

ohh

yo

sandstream hudt gave shiftry 2x attack?????

[solid frigate]

Wind Rider

[tough idol]

Wind Rider ability

[cold ivy]

oh

i lost

[wispy spade]

You don't got this?

[tough idol]

Big part of Comp is learning what mons do. Hence why I suggested not doing on cart first

[wispy spade]

[cold ivy]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2072754046-5h1rptfghb0iudbbojuqjuroc8iu7sipw

[cold ivy]

well its just showdown

doesnt make me lose anything

[upbeat quail]

Lol 2 games in a row I lost because we were both down to 1 Pokémon each and they got the 10% freeze chance on ice beam and ice punch respectively

Feels bad man

[cold ivy]

oof

[tough idol]

@cold ivy you're Landorus has wrong ability

[cold ivy]

uh

[tough idol]

You lost HP to Life Orb. Needs to be Sheer Force

[solid frigate]

I forgot to edit that out-

[cold ivy]

torrent gave me a final draw thing

oh okay

[solid frigate]

Ngl i am trying to use your team rn

[cold ivy]

thx for all the help, i gtg for a few hours

[solid frigate]

and i got wiped yea

its not bad just i don't know how to pilot this

[tough idol]

Forgot I did this when Nova mentioned it lol

[solid frigate]

Wait,Torracat-

is it nick Torracat or is it an actual one

[tough idol]

Eviolite Torracat

[solid frigate]

Ok thats actually impressive

but then again is Pre evo of Incin

[tough idol]

Gets same Ability. Less powerful but faster

[solid frigate]

Yeah thats what i meant

[tough idol]

I just gave mine Scary Face as it doesn't get Knock Off iirc

[solid frigate]

That works

Flare Blitz,Parting Shot,Fake out and SF?

[tough idol]

Yup

[solid frigate]

yeah i think EVs are the same

[tough idol]

Lol 100 stats here though

[solid frigate]

I feel like thats gonna work just as good as Incin did

[tough idol]

Doesn't live Surging. No berry

[solid frigate]

and does not live against other Water Types?

or Earthquake right

[tough idol]

Not done many calcs. But others have. I did feel the Surging though lol 😆

[solid frigate]

ah

[tough idol]

Hitmontop is my next Master Rank Project (ps I use the mon in the fight. Not just win with 4 good mons)

[solid frigate]

so its similar to how Wolfey wins with Dipplin right

[tough idol]

Similar but u just need 1 win for the Ribbon

[solid frigate]

ah i see

[bold geode]

@brave barn plz refrain from chatting in #rental_teams , they like to keep that chat clean for rentals

But to answer your question, yes it should let you

[tough idol]

I'm not killing myself getting from Rank 1 to MB with them lol 😆 @solid frigate

[solid frigate]

LMAO Good luck lol

[tough idol]

FML just found a box I forgot I had. More HOME sorting to do

[solid frigate]

lel

[tough idol]

Having 4 saves is sometimes a curse

At least I know where I was dumping extras now

[solid frigate]

Holy fu thats a lot of-

[opaque adder]

I only made 4 saves in sword and shield to get 2 regidrago and 2 regilik lmao

[bold geode]

You think that's a lot

Legion show em your Kubfus

[solid frigate]

for me yea,

[tough idol]

2nd Switch with 2 saves back when Leaves and Wake were available

[tough idol]

It's not Kubfu now

[solid frigate]

ok that i am not suprised cuz my friend has tons as well

[bold geode]

Oh you finally thinned the herd to one Legion?

[tough idol]

4 more BM in HOME

[solid frigate]

Insert Loyal three Theme mayhem

[bold geode]

Bro literally got FIVE nights at Freddy's

[solid frigate]

PFFT

i just only had a box of Froakies

[bold geode]

Anyways that Incin/Rilla/Ursh/Lando/Bolt/Pao shit? I'm gonna run it some lmao

[tough idol]

Restricted Ready LOL

[bold geode]

Also @dull ibex I didn't ask earlier sir but have you looked into Helldiver's 2?

[tough idol]

I farm the games a lot

[solid frigate]

i feel like i am pathetic rn-

[tough idol]

When Monke mentioned Kubfu. It was because I used to do 2 hour IoA resets and had about 13 Kubfu at 1 point and a few Urshis. Traded a bunch and helped a few guys out in here

[solid frigate]

fair

[bold geode]

Yeah back in Reg D, Legion was the fuckin Kubfu dealer

[solid frigate]

damn-

i think the only duped Legendaries in my save file is Weather Trio-

[tough idol]

Now I hard grind Bolts, Crown, Boulder and Fire (but it's draining, due to full completion)

[solid frigate]

yeah i only have Groudon,Kyogre and Rayquaza duped cuz Pokemon Go

[tough idol]

I brought SwSh ones over. Then moved all my Go versions

[solid frigate]

damn-

[tough idol]

5/6 Enam are PoGo. 1 PLA

[solid frigate]

5???

oml i missed the events cuz i am grinding for Sinnoh Tour

now my restricted Comp team missing Lando I and Bolt

[tough idol]

Paste? Or secret

[solid frigate]

Well i mean,idm sharing

cuz i know i won't be that far into it

https://pokepast.es/c1b4511cc96903f6

[craggy dagger]

whale

[tough idol]

Ah 2 Restricted, thought it was a 1 lol

[solid frigate]

isn't Kyogre an Orca?

[solid frigate]

i think its 2 right?

[craggy dagger]

an orca is a dolphin
and dolphins are whales-
not baleen whales but toothed whales

[tough idol]

Usually 1 x Restricted First time round for VGC

If for oneofakinds thing it's 1x

[craggy dagger]

yeah usually restricted formats first few seasons is 1 legend, then it becomes 2

[solid frigate]

I think i might box Terapagos(Yes i nickname It Pneuma cuz i am a Huge Xenoblade 2 fan)

[craggy dagger]

i know in swsh they added a fuck all lets add all mythicals too format for one season xD

[solid frigate]

lol imagine they did that again-

[craggy dagger]

prolly will tbh

[solid frigate]

Magerna moment

anyways

which pokemon i could replace Terapagos for?

[craggy dagger]

mag is one thing

[tough idol]

You're choice of Ogerpon maybe?

[solid frigate]

Well maybe Hearthflame

wait

lemme think

[craggy dagger]

use a normal type xD
use-
uh-
uhm-
sawsbuck or smth

[solid frigate]

LOL

ngl i would use Greedent for lols

but nah if its Normal type idk

ok Fire Ogerpon it is

[tough idol]

Friend Guard Eviolite Clef

[solid frigate]

Horn Leech,Cudgel,Spiky Shield and what else?

[tough idol]

Which reminds me, this still needs a ribbon 🎀

[solid frigate]

for the memes

[tough idol]

Follow Me or Swords Dance, depends what you wanna do with it. Wood Hammer also an option over leech

[tough idol]

I actually got it from Tofu lol 😆 traded and Alolan Geodude when Teal Mask came out

[solid frigate]

Swords dance maybe,Follow Me is not as good on Fire pon than Water pon

[solid frigate]

lel

[craggy dagger]

nahhhhhhhh
use clefable instead

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/bba364be54e326c6

here

[tough idol]

And it is done and Immortalised

[solid frigate]

LOL

[bold geode]

@rigid robin also refrain from chatting in #rental_teams plz, comp staff like to keep it clean for rental teams

[bold geode]

Ayo Tofu Clefairy?

[tough idol]

Yup, I supplied Alolan Geodude back at Teal release, Tofu gave me a Clef. I just had to name and get the Ribbon now it may forever sit in a box

[cold ivy]

i was playing some pokemon showdown in the car and my score was 1-15 win lose 💀 🙏

[little plank]

Having alot of fun with this team, kinda just threw it together. What do you guys think I could do to improve it?

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2072804428

https://pokepast.es/478ccd735455e64b

[rigid robin]

I apologize. i was only responding to someone else but I wont do it again

[bold geode]

Oh it's all good
Figured I'd let ya know

[dull ibex]

I don't like hoarde shooters

[bold geode]

Damn
It's kind of fun to me at least

[dull ibex]

Ok

[ember linden]

I’d go flying tera Sneasler, and adamant Shifu, otherwise don’t see anything else

[rocky hull]

https://pokepast.es/8f227c7c8efcd6be Yo i got have a team down for doubles but idk what mons to use for the other half any suggestions

[bold geode]

@gentle delta

He hasn't been summoned

[molten oasis]

He’s probably busy

[bold geode]

Oh shit I forgot Prog my bad

Forgot Prog came out as trans now

Would it be she or?

[molten oasis]

Oh, good for him

[rocky hull]

Me confusion

[molten oasis]

Or them, idk

[bold geode]

Sorry, we were trying to summon our person who is well educated in the art of Armadee

[molten oasis]

It’s his favorite archetype

[rocky hull]

Oooh

Now it makes sense

[bold geode]

But sadly, they ain't come so I gotta do my best lmao

[rocky hull]

Aight

[molten oasis]

Id power herb meteor beam on arma

Lets you explode incin, it’s problem Mon

If not you can do life orb over sitrus

[gentle delta]

https://pokepast.es/08245fc1ce2372e2

Bye

[bold geode]

Damn lmao

[molten oasis]

Lmao, we don’t need to do anything

[bold geode]

Well there ya go bruh

[gentle delta]

Her*

[molten oasis]

Her, gotcha

[bold geode]

Ok so it is she

[molten oasis]

Wasn’t sure

[rocky hull]

I see

Thx for the help

[gentle delta]

Oh and change Arma to 0 speed IVs that paste is slightly outdated

[bold geode]

Oh hey since you're here, there's a question I have to ask (if you don't know it's perfectly fine)
Apparently I heard that Hard TR isn't played as much in Europe, do you have any clue why?

[gentle delta]

Metas tend to develop differently with things like language barriers and also times people are on ladder to test etc

Psyspam for example continues to do very well in AUS despite flittering a bit elsewhere.

I dont pay enough attention to EU meta to speak for it though

[bold geode]

Oh right
Like Melbourne it hit 2nd iirc and the team looked a bit more Reg A than the usual Armadee Psyspam teams nowadays

[gentle delta]

Yeah

[bold geode]

I guess the times in like NA fare a bit better for Hard TR

[gentle delta]

Please don’t ping me again tonight I’m not trying to be rude but I am really not in the mood rn.

Turning ones life upside down and filling it with uncertainty kind makes VGC not as important.

[bold geode]

Felt
Sorry I just initially pinged you just to get someone who knew more about what they were talking about

Have a good night

[near smelt]

Hey so im a broke boi and can't afford Tornadous.
What's a good TR setter or TW setter for H. Decid?

[hoary shoal]

Other than genies I think whimiscott works pretty well

[knotty mirage]

For the trick room either fairigiraf or fem indeedee

[hoary shoal]

But if you’re using it with H-decid uou prolly don’t wanna double up on grass types so as far as prankster tw options go you’re kinda stuck with talonflame or god forbid murkrow. Tr you prolly wanna go with indeedee-f or farigiraf as above. Cresselia if you have one would be dec too

[scarlet otter]

Or Tornadus/Thundurus

[scarlet otter]

Why 2 Attack Ivs on Armarouge?

Wouldn't you want 0 Ivs to deal with confusion and foul play

[charred saddle]

and, 2 IVs and 0 IVs difference are miniscule

65 and 66

[real prairie]

Seeing if there are any more takers?

[mighty stump]

Not like it matters anyways atp

0 Foul Play users

[craggy dagger]

:>

[wispy spade]

makes team with 6 foul play users

[craggy dagger]

foul play evil bear into weakness policy espathra is a thing

which i was unprepared for

[real prairie]

sounds super cheese

with speed boost - stored power?

[craggy dagger]

yeah stored power sweep

which i wasn’t prepared for…
usually incin would wall that but-
dazzling gleam and cc into incin is gonna leave incin dead-

[charred saddle]

love this game

[patent marsh]

L bozo

[charred saddle]

hitting 2 blizzards in a row to 2 opponents outside snow is also fun

gotta love this game indeed

you win some, you lose some

• gambler spirit

[craggy dagger]

true gamblers spirit is using prankster metronome grim to pick off the final mon

[mighty stump]

You kinda just dont end up hitting anything relative to like

Actual dark types

[craggy dagger]

pretty much-

[gentle delta]

My literal actual in game IVs

Shoulda be kinda obvious

[raw thistle]

Can we give them a star for trying

(It was a kyogre)

[scarlet otter]

Hurricane is being used

[mighty stump]

You say that like it's proof Confusion is significant enough when the only relevant Hurricane user is Pelipper

[molten oasis]

Oh, yea that’s true

Cuz torn runs bleakwind

So it has 0 reason to run hurricane

[mighty stump]

And even with Rain being relevant its like still at 2% usage

[scarlet otter]

It’s not but it’s something if possible should be done

[mighty stump]

Is it worth using over something you want to run aesthetically? Not really due to how insignificant it is, hence why the paste just reflected the accurate IVs

[knotty mirage]

Is restricted format gonna be on next month ?

[mighty stump]

Anyways we got Pikachu to top 500

@craggy dagger

[scarlet otter]

I use sometimes specific Ivs like 4 Iv ursaluna for specific goals

[tough idol]

Reg F doesn't finish until end of April

[scarlet otter]

Nice lol

[tough idol]

And no announcements as to next one yet iirc

[knotty mirage]

Oh okay

[mighty stump]

Just delay Restricteds for a bit

Regulation F is incredibly fun

It's solid in variety and play

[knotty mirage]

Fair but idk i just really want to start using caly shadow on ranked

[tough idol]

I'm enjoying Reg F, learning to play multiple teams instead of settling on one for a season/reg

[knotty mirage]

Or miraidon i guess because in this reg there no electric terrain team

[mighty stump]

Until you run into the mirror

[knotty mirage]

I doubt it gonna happen often most people probably would just slot something like miraidon or kyogre

[molten oasis]

Yea

[molten oasis]

I wonder how much that’ll change when restricted rolls around

[mighty stump]

Ha Ha Ha Terapagos spam

Ha Ha Ha

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait for favorites ti be, barely be usable lol

[mighty stump]

I'm probably gonna do Terapagos cause I like it's design

[knotty mirage]

Terapagos is like really terra reliant right i think at least managable with other restricted mon around

[molten oasis]

I’m doing zacian

I like it’s design

[mighty stump]

Have you seen it's stats

[molten oasis]

It’s stats are gross

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar

Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Base Species

Terapagos

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

Boss battle

[mighty stump]

160-110-110

[molten oasis]

Better than bolt and Suicune

[mighty stump]

Who tf cares when you're hitting hard neutrals for Spread

[molten oasis]

Better than zacian, better than caly ice

[dapper crag]

Ability: Teraform Zero

Terapagos: Terastallizing ends the effects of weather and terrain. Once per battle.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

And that lol

[mighty stump]

Bros like

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[knotty mirage]

Good thing it work only once

[mighty stump]

And it's base ability is also good

[knotty mirage]

If it's per switch in yeah that bs

[mighty stump]

Bruh

Imagine

[molten oasis]

I feel like the av mons will be dedicated to hurting terapagos SE

[mighty stump]

Terapagos-Stellar + Mega-Ray

Together

[molten oasis]

I don’t want to fight that hell no

[knotty mirage]

AV koraidon ?

[molten oasis]

Why

[mighty stump]

I feel Koraidon should be able to hurt Terapagos

[molten oasis]

Av koraidon still dies to flutter lmao

[mighty stump]

Koraidon is probably gonna run Fire Tera

Its perfect flip + boosts in sun

[molten oasis]

I agree

That seems like a great Tera

For it

[mighty stump]

Hold up

252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 59-70 (34.7 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Wtf

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[mighty stump]

bRUh

252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fighting Koraidon Helping Hand Collision Course vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 119-140 (70 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

Give it band and helping hand

[mighty stump]

?????

252+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fighting Koraidon Helping Hand Collision Course vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 155-182 (91.1 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Homie???

[molten oasis]

Wtf

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fighting Koraidon Helping Hand Collision Course vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 178-210 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[molten oasis]

That’s not considering ANY bulk damn

[mighty stump]

This is base

You can't Tera in front of Koraidon

[molten oasis]

Yea

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fighting Koraidon Helping Hand Collision Course vs. 252 HP / 28 Def Tera Shell Terapagos-Terastal: 172-203 (85.1 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

Ok bro

[knotty mirage]

I mean you can just prio terapagos and then attack with colision course

[mighty stump]

Ok

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait for set up mons to skyrocket just to handle this thing

[mighty stump]

Terapagos gets CM

So

[molten oasis]

Swords dance mons the

[mighty stump]

But

If you Tera

[molten oasis]

Just to, have a chance lmao

[knotty mirage]

With fake out everywhere

[mighty stump]

252+ Atk Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. 252 HP / 28 Def Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar: 232-275 (86.8 - 102.9%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

You get threateend

[molten oasis]

Hmm

Noted

[mighty stump]

I like how much leaning into the timing of Teras there is

It's great

[molten oasis]

Yea

It’s neat on paper

[mighty stump]

Tera feels like a great

[molten oasis]

Terapagos vs terapagos seems interesting

[knotty mirage]

Will fake out and urshifu on field can threaten terrapagos

[molten oasis]

Pffffff

I doubt it kills

HIGHLY doubt it kills

[autumn vault]

Both want to tera, but if it happens and they use their signature move they get punished, very interesting

[molten oasis]

Yea

[autumn vault]

Pretty much it becomes a guessing game of when can i tera and the opponents wont to get an advantage

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

Not looking forward to restricted

I’m excited to try kyurem white and Zac tho

[autumn vault]

Same but i never played in a restricted format

[knotty mirage]

Now i wonder which gonna end up more bs restricted with dynamax or this

[autumn vault]

I am planning to use Zekrom and Calyrex shadow (in psyspam)

[molten oasis]

I played in one for a week and hated so

Gonna enjoy Primarina and gapdos while I can I guess

[mighty stump]

Thats cuz Dmax is polarising as fuck

[knotty mirage]

You can only use one restricted on the first restricted format i think

[molten oasis]

Yea dmax was ass for me lol

[autumn vault]

I can use both in different teams

It's simple

[molten oasis]

Tera more fun and interesting

We shall see how the meta forms

When that comes around, but for now we will prob see lots of a9 articuno lol

[knotty mirage]

Next game were going back to mega evolution

[molten oasis]

I hope not

[tough idol]

No confirmed comp mode

[autumn vault]

I would hate to face articuno and A9

[molten oasis]

Mega Kangaskhan sounds like 0 fucking fun to deal with

[molten oasis]

Oh it just won a regional

[mighty stump]

Keep an open mind

[autumn vault]

I already hate A9 and with a better muk + smeargle is A9 + articuno

[molten oasis]

You will see it a lot lmao

[mighty stump]

Ive already been playing into A9/Articuno

[autumn vault]

I knew that

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

Pikachu wins

Lmaoo

[molten oasis]

A9 is cool

[tough idol]

Pikachu Worlds 2024

[molten oasis]

If I run a9 I’m probably running a9 Bax

[autumn vault]

same

[molten oasis]

I don’t really like the articuno stuff

[autumn vault]

A9 Bax/regice

[molten oasis]

Do not run regice

[autumn vault]

Regice in an Aaron Zheng video did really good

[molten oasis]

Pretty sure regice is kinda awful

[mighty stump]

Rude

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 378: Regice

Type

Ice

Abilities

Clear Body, Ice Body (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/50/100/100/200/50

Total

580

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[autumn vault]

Outside of snow definetely, in snow its good

[mighty stump]

Regice is based

[molten oasis]

Lemme have opinions lol

[mighty stump]

No

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

[molten oasis]

Nvm no snow opinions from me I’ll just hide in the corner with my Primarina

[autumn vault]

Let me have an opinion: A-Muk + Smeargle are nasty and should be wiped from the pokemon world PERMANENTLY

[molten oasis]

If only they could remove Pokémon forever

[craggy dagger]

OWHHH
pika broken xD

[autumn vault]

If only their balancing on paradoxes is good

[molten oasis]

Eh well if articuno can win a regional guess anything can this reg

[mighty stump]

Time for blogpost

Lmaooo

IT will be such a short one though cause its like "haha rain good + pikachu"

[molten oasis]

Looking forward to that

[autumn vault]

Is it regigigas + weezing time (Never happening )?

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

A9 didn’t seem good this reg than it won so, it can probably work

[craggy dagger]

here we've got a team breakdown and why this rain team works.
and this here is a pikachu

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

Its a good team core it's just that it needs Dmax to work really well (and to make urshifu uncommon so it shines more)

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna climb the in game ladder with my team and then Ill decide on if I make a new team

[mighty stump]

Well

Tyo did say he had to dodge certain matchups

[tough idol]

Bye Incin lol 😆

[mighty stump]

Cause there were some terrible ones

[hoary shoal]

I got pikachu to top ~750 back in swsh xD

[molten oasis]

Like honestly, getting that gapdos team to work and then feel really solid felt so good and idk if I’ll ever achieve that for the rest of the reg

[tough idol]

Yh Hard TR was one wasn't it Tofu?

[molten oasis]

Hard tr was one yea

[autumn vault]

Hard TR is weird ngl (its great against tailwind teams lacking amoonguss)

[craggy dagger]

owh teal legion :0

[tough idol]

Ooh I changed lol

[molten oasis]

I’ve also not played cuz I’m honestly kinda scared to somehow find out the team I worked on will suddenly start failing

[craggy dagger]

i was wondeirng who you were for a sec cause i didnt recognize the color

[molten oasis]

cuz I don’t stick with anything long enough and then switch

[tough idol]

I'm gonna mess about for a bit rest of season using my new Flagship mon

[molten oasis]

And I think I eventually WANT to just have a Mon or a kind of archetype I’m really good at

[craggy dagger]

owhh??
who is itt-

[molten oasis]

Id rather be really good at one thing than be okay at everything

[hoary shoal]

Tbh my fav team of the season has been heatran+ww

[autumn vault]

Walking Wake?

[tough idol]

Tofu OT Clefairy.

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Neat

[hoary shoal]

Yeah with whimiscott setting sun up it has some crazy damage potential

[mighty stump]

Ig with me barely trading anyone

[dapper crag]

Move: Clangorous Soulblaze

Raises the user's Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 1 stage.

Type

Dragon

Category

Special

Power

185

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

I might be a Primarina enthusiast if I think about

[mighty stump]

My OT goes crazy

Lmao

[molten oasis]

I really like Primarina rn

[autumn vault]

🙄

Lucky

[molten oasis]

It’s such a nice typing and I like calm mind a lot in the meta

[dapper crag]

Move: Oceanic Operetta

No additional effect.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

195

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[mighty stump]

I do not remember trading a Clefairy

[craggy dagger]

thats it-

[tough idol]

You traded me a Cleffa for an Alolan Geodude

[hoary shoal]

Thats a z move no?

[autumn vault]

He might have started a new safe file with your username and caught a clefairy, just saying

[mighty stump]

OH YEAH

[molten oasis]

Lol

[autumn vault]

oh guess i am wrong

[pliant kelp]

Hey, I want to play showdown in SV with a 6 ditto team, whats the right format for this does anyone know?

[molten oasis]

Uhhh

[craggy dagger]

mhm-
i was just curious

[mighty stump]

Anything Goes, I think

[molten oasis]

Yea

[pliant kelp]

thanks

[autumn vault]

yeah

[hoary shoal]

Or monotype maybe?

[mighty stump]

No Monotype still has species clause

I think

I think AG is the only one with no clause

[autumn vault]

You beat me to it, and yes as a mono dragon player this is true

[pliant kelp]

wonderful, thanks

[molten oasis]

hmm

[hoary shoal]

Idk if monotype has species clause I’ve never played it lol

[autumn vault]

it doesn't

[dapper crag]

Primarina's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Body Slam, Covet, Dive, Double Slap, Facade, Flip Turn, Frustration, Giga Impact, Ice Spinner, Iron Tail, Liquidation, Play Rough, Pound, Return, Triple Axel, Waterfall

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Blizzard, Brine, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Hidden Power, Hydro Cannon, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Misty Explosion, Moonblast, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Scald, Shadow Ball, Snore, Sparkling Aria, Stored Power, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pledge, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Amnesia, Aqua Ring, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Calm Mind, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Growl, Hail, Haze, Helping Hand, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Misty Terrain, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Swagger, Toxic, Wonder Room, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Primarina.

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[molten oasis]

Oh Primarina kept scald?

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-shook-shocked-gif-13010143

[molten oasis]

It’s not bulky enough to be support but that’s neat

[hoary shoal]

I’m a big misty explosion head

[autumn vault]

Burn is still useful

[molten oasis]

Av set with scald hyper voice moonblast and ice beam could be neat

[autumn vault]

anything 30% to activate is 5% of activation for me

[mighty stump]

Damn

There are some

Fire teams on Twitter atm

[tough idol]

Unless I'm blind Serebii does not have Primarina Scald for Gen 9

[molten oasis]

Show

[mighty stump]

The JPN are distributing some heat

[hoary shoal]

In bss I’m using specs primarina rn its a monster

[mighty stump]

Anyways time to gatekeep

[autumn vault]

Always has been

[molten oasis]

But that’s singles

[molten oasis]

Damn you

I wanna see the heat without looking for it

[autumn vault]

[molten oasis]

Oh ig not

[mighty stump]

To summarise it's just Bolt/Incin/Rilla/Urshifu + 2

[molten oasis]

Prima did not keep scald ig the thing is wrong

[mighty stump]

https://note.com/happy_eagle684/n/n2647c872a42e example

[molten oasis]

Nvm that’s lame

The copy paste shit from the most recent regional

[mighty stump]

Excuse me

[next stump]

i’ve been running that core at locals for 2 months and it’s so fking good

[tough idol]

@molten oasis maybe the bot isn't pulling Gen for some mons

[molten oasis]

(I respect it’s consistent, I just don’t like it)

[hoary shoal]

Who woulda guessed the most popular fire/water/grass trio + bolt xD

[autumn vault]

It is just meta pokemon, how is that heat?

[mighty stump]

Another thing is that the top teams still appear to be JPN

or stems from that

[molten oasis]

Yeah, that makes sense

[mighty stump]

Cause solid teams are heat especially the more information you gather about the "copypaste" teams

Every player has altering insights

[autumn vault]

Well you do have a point, that is true

[mighty stump]

The skill ceiling of balance is like

So high

[molten oasis]

Yea, even if it was copy paste there were some interesting mix ups with some of them

[hoary shoal]

Is tera water incin that common? I feel like i mever see it

[mighty stump]

Altering Teras alter the dynamic

[tough idol]

Never seen one. Hardly ever see Incin Tera tbf, think mines Dragon

[molten oasis]

Someday I’ll reach it, but not for a while

A high skill ceiling cuz I sure don’t rn

[mighty stump]

Another one, Item changes on Bolt with Different Tera/Item on Incineroar

[hoary shoal]

Yeah the tera for the mons is rly interesting, idt I’ve seen ghost lando either

most lando-i are poison or ground tera

[mighty stump]

@molten oasis Me and Rinya ended up cooking up similar teams

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[molten oasis]

With the Pikachu?

[mighty stump]

No

Gounging

[molten oasis]

Oh

Interesting

[hoary shoal]

Team I’m currently on is this -chien pao - bolt + nadus + fm

[mighty stump]

https://pokebin.com/21d273ff7cb3d3e6

[molten oasis]

Yo wait the copy paste team doesn’t have flutter, fucking POG

[autumn vault]

POG

[craggy dagger]

whao

[molten oasis]

Interesting

[hoary shoal]

Tera stellar pao is interesting

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/013751bbcf748aa9 Here's my GC team

[autumn vault]

I have never seen a solo dondozo in my life

[molten oasis]

We love the tofu GC team

Tera fire Tera blast moon is based

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/5aeae68f7fb306eb My GC team

[molten oasis]

I’m not sharing mine cuz I already did and I didn’t even play in it

[mighty stump]

One of my goals is to be recognised as a good teambuilder

[autumn vault]

Wait i got 669 on my standing in GC

[molten oasis]

You are a good team builder tho

[mighty stump]

So I've been trying to break out of my box for a while esp observing the JPN players

[molten oasis]

You make my teams better

[autumn vault]

Noice

[hoary shoal]

Just out of curiosity why did you go arma over crown for psyspam mode? Or is it a tr arma and just doesn’t show on the paste

[mighty stump]

I don't have to commit Tera to remove Incineroar

[hoary shoal]

Ah makes sense

[molten oasis]

Maybe im not playing cuz I don’t have a goal

And I also just don’t have time to do tournaments

[autumn vault]

Me too

Tournaments are for people that can travel, they host tourney's in my area once per year or something idk

[hoary shoal]

I don’t have the luxury to travel so I just play like a couple matches on ladder every day

[molten oasis]

Online tournaments mostly but yea

I’m flooded with homework

[mighty stump]

I'm just here to teach people Pokemon if they're willing to learn lol

That's my goal

[molten oasis]

I DO want to try and go to NAIC

[mighty stump]

I don't have anything lofty

[molten oasis]

cuz that be cool

But also, pricey asf

And I have to actually get in

[next stump]

Are you a senior or junior?

[autumn vault]

Senior

[next stump]

ahh okay that makes sense, congrats on the placement 🙂

[autumn vault]

Thanks

there is like 20 people that have 69 on their placement

i didn't play that much and got a good placement pretty early on

[autumn vault]

Did you ask that because someone in the master division got a 6 on the 3rd digit (the 3rd as in 600)?

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2073235913-d8dqmjjy8f841md96aajbq511tg75xppw nice sub lando nerd

[next stump]

no, because I ended in the low 1600s and was rank like 1500-2000

[autumn vault]

Oh right

[next stump]

so I was confused at first how 1556 was giving you a higher ranking but I forgot that there are age divisions for the GCs

[autumn vault]

I see

iirc junior and senior division are treated as 1 division in the GC's

Both can play against each other

[bold geode]

Or beat it into the ones that didn't at first

https://tenor.com/view/look-into-mirror-mitchell-moffit-asapscience-raise-eyebrows-make-face-gif-20191573

[charred saddle]

kpn kpn kita daftar regional singapur bareng dah

[mighty stump]

Can-t wait to go 0-X

[charred saddle]

minimal 1-X

[mighty stump]

Minimal

2-X

ok lah

[autumn vault]

I am