competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

I did that twice and i forgot Talonflame Gale Wings existed-

i think because of me being stupid-

[autumn vault]

or brain not computing (nice way to put it)

[crimson flume]

I also expected torkoal to move first without trick room. Yes, I am sometimes crazy. Comp is mentally tiring, especially after a loss streak.

[solid frigate]

my brain is not braining

[solid frigate]

yeah,but i still keep on trying,cuz i legit want the experience to understand the matchups

[lofty tartan]

So usually Incin is pretty bulky actually so you need a little help with Beads of Ruin or Helping Hand or Tera Blast Water with Rain

[autumn vault]

anyways i will have to somehow find out on how to get a picture of a rental in #rental_teams

[solid frigate]

mhm

[crimson flume]

I dont let my win rate bother me at this stage cause the more it bothers me, the more I will be too nervous to even play well.

[lofty tartan]

Focus Blast is bad. Don't use it. Does the same damage as Tera Blast.

But you can play into dark types pretty well most times. I've gone like Torn and Crown before - or TornUrshifu is a good way to scare dark types

Landorus covers for Crown incredibly well. If Lando is on the team I usually err on the side of Tera Water Tera Blast for Crown

[mighty stump]

Key for Kingambit

[lofty tartan]

Dial K for Kingambit

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-kingambit-gif-6197672305090599897

[crimson flume]

Instead of Tera ground?

[lofty tartan]

Usually, yeah. Tera Water doesn't do any better into Kingambit though, but Landorus is pretty solid there

[crimson flume]

@tough idol oh if you can. Share ev and iv spreads on pokepaste too!

[lofty tartan]

I gotta get a nap in but I'll be posting the team I'm currently playing as a rental later

[crimson flume]

Hmmm.... guess I need lando... that's incarnate I presume... more reason for me to start PLA lol.

I also need to evolve a hisuian liligant for torkoal. Just in case I feel like bringing torkoal in.

Only possible in PLA.

[tough idol]

I just tried Pon, Lando myself

Amd I believe I used Detect Ursh on mine too

With Mystic Water

[autumn vault]

protect is literally better than detect

[mighty stump]

Legion you can send a paste 😭

[mighty stump]

Explain

And I can disprove it

C:

[autumn vault]

more PP

is there something i dont know?

[tough idol]

Aren't they the same thing, also Detect less likely to be Imprisoned

[mighty stump]

• You escape Encore locks sooner
• Avoids the niche Imprison-Protect strat

[autumn vault]

Well played

[mighty stump]

😎

[autumn vault]

but explain the encore locks

[mighty stump]

So

In potential endgame situation

[tough idol]

Also sorry lol 😆 Mika sent me about 5 pastes of different teams 😅

[mighty stump]

Sometimes you can get Encore locked which prevents you from using any relevant move

However

Encore does not work on a move that runs out of PP

Which frees you up from the lock

[autumn vault]

i see

[tough idol]

I did not know this

[mighty stump]

Thats why some Encore endgames against per-se a support Pokemon which holds no moves sometimes

Or no move that can hit the target relevantly

Will attempt to force you to Struggle

Or attempt to like chip you down

But if you run through PP fast enough you might be able to escape if you recognise it's one of those situations

It's also the reason why you shouldn't PP up some of your support moves

One of them being Protect

The PP reasoning is valid though, sometimes you want to maximise PP for PP stalling

a-la Dondozo

[tough idol]

On a positive note, I have had about 6 T1 ragequits, because I've used TW, Tachyon Cutter into either Flutter or Pao and they drop like a rock.

[autumn vault]

i don't PP up protect

i only do it when it has 5 pp

[tough idol]

I PP up everything, not like its hard to get them

Them again I'm cart exclusive atm, can't stand Showdown on phone. PC purchase in the works

So I spend plenty of time grinding

[silk thorn]

What would be the best tera type for a defensive garchomp with rough skin, rocky helmet and sturdy?

[autumn vault]

It cant have 2 abilities

It doesnt even have sturdy

[mighty stump]

Fire, most likely

[crimson flume]

Detect instead of aqua jet?

Also choosing between tera ground and tera water for crown.

[tough idol]

Detect over U Turn I believe it was

Running Surging, Close, Detect, Aqua

[solid frigate]

nice

idk why i use Drain punch and U turn

[craggy dagger]

drain punch on an aquashifu?

[solid frigate]

idk why i do that-

[crimson flume]

Guess im doing tera ground for now on crown. I do not have landorus yet lol.

[burnt marsh]

trade for it?

[tough idol]

Never had Drain on a Fu

[autumn vault]

Same

[burnt marsh]

not like itll be hard to find a lando

if you cant just catch it in another game

[charred saddle]

it is. you do need another game

[tough idol]

I've got about 6 Landos I think from PLA, Go, Sw

[charred saddle]

thats what makes it quite hard

[burnt marsh]

use pokemon home gts

youll find alot more

[tough idol]

GTS is a minefield of hackmons

[charred saddle]

theres not much legit mon in gts so.

[burnt marsh]

yeah but you can find legit ones

just need to look harder

[charred saddle]

and u cant differentiate them

all you can know is, there is no red flags or no

[burnt marsh]

just avoid lvl 100s to start

[charred saddle]

doesnt mean that its not

[autumn vault]

Also everyone wants a furfrou that lives in who-knows-where

[burnt marsh]

and if you get a hacked one put it back up for another lando untill you get the legit one

[mighty stump]

I'd probably just try to look for one in this server before going to GTS lol. Then going through a benefit of a doubt.

That's not really any better.

[crimson flume]

Imma make a trading post.

[mighty stump]

You really shouldn't promote trading away hackmons.

Lol

[crimson flume]

If I play PLA i wanna enjoy the story not rush the story for competitive lol

[autumn vault]

True

Both true (🪵tofu and Orange Mochi.)

[burnt marsh]

look if you want an extra lando i might have my pla one? id have to look but i think i left it alone bc i had one alr from swsh

might still be rotting in the cart

[autumn vault]

I also have a spare lando-I

From my recent playthrough of it

[solid frigate]

i want one lol-

but eh maybe i'll get my own

[mighty stump]

If you do decide to go through with any trades, please arrange them external to this channel

Just as an FYI

[solid frigate]

yeah get it

[burnt marsh]

even if its pretty much a free lando for anything? js id give it away for a migikarp if its extra

i thought the middle man q was so you dont lose legendarys

[solid frigate]

yeah.

but it depends on if the reciving needs anything or no

[burnt marsh]

yeah thought so

[solid frigate]

i just Need Lando to make my Sandstorm team

[autumn vault]

Sand force is worse than sheer force imo

[burnt marsh]

i did not have the spare im sorry, guess i alr traded him off

[lofty tartan]

Lando-I doesn't need to use Sand Force on a Sand team.

[solid frigate]

Eh its ok,i can find on my own

Should i use Lando T or Lando I for Sand Team cuz both of them are ok

[lofty tartan]

Depends on what you want them to do, really

[crimson flume]

I put up a trading post. Not allowed to trade here haha.

God. Im out of candy. Seems I need to farm bbqs and tera raids. 😦

[autumn vault]

Depends on what the team needs

Lando i for special attacker and lando t for physical attacker

But lando i is the winner as incin exists

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/c79fdf778073cf93

here you go

[burnt marsh]

think you tagged wrong guy lol

[crimson flume]

Im gonna go with incarnate. Id rather copy what others are doing at this point.......

[autumn vault]

Naive?

[solid frigate]

idk its not finished

[burnt marsh]

you ment to tag morris

[lofty tartan]

I must go - my people need me

[crimson flume]

Oh ya. Mb.

[solid frigate]

Yep lol its ok,i did not mean to

[crimson flume]

So wait. Tera water or tera ground on crown is fine right?

Just to be sure. XD

[solid frigate]

Moves?

[crimson flume]

Tachyon cutter
Expanding force
Tera Blast and protect

Way to counter dark types like urshifu and kingambit.

Incineroar too but hey. Incin is everywhere.

[solid frigate]

Ground,Cuz Urshifu Rapid Resist Water, just to make sure

[crimson flume]

Im moving away from tera psychic

Its too niche...

I saw a ground crown once. I thought he was trolling, until he destroyed me. Lol.

[burnt marsh]

gonna move right back to it when expanding farce calyrex shadowrider comes back

[solid frigate]

Yeah its actually surpisingly good

[burnt marsh]

yes farce

[crimson flume]

Calyrex cant be obtained in violet no?

[solid frigate]

Expanding Farce lol

[crimson flume]

Snacksworth does not have his snack.

[burnt marsh]

i have shadowrider

[solid frigate]

idk why it does not have it

[burnt marsh]

you can trade them from your home boxs

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/58c4687270dbd9fe

Idk why i put Kyogre with Terapagos-

[crimson flume]

S/V is my first game since gen1 and gen3

Yeah. I dont have those other mons from bdsp, oras, usum, sun moon, swsh, diamond pearl, etc.

[solid frigate]

well i have all except Gen 8 and maybe Sub Legendary

Urshifu and the Horses i got them

[tough idol]

Snacksworth can't have Calyrex Shadowrider

[craggy dagger]

sub legends?

[tough idol]

Spectrier and Glastier are there I believe. Calyrex is not. You have to combine them

[craggy dagger]

sv has the two horses and the item that can combine the two but not calyrex itself

[rustic mountain]

gf forcing ppl to buy swsh:

[tough idol]

I'm more annoyed Reigns are tied. So you can't have both

Though I'd go for Shadow anyway, I'd like to have both for different teams

[rustic mountain]

they did the same for swsh

def annoying

[tough idol]

I only got SwSh late after I got SV

I was too deep in CoD ranked 😭

[rustic mountain]

haha gotcha

[craggy dagger]

i thought that calyrex was gonna be catchable in the disk…
there was a leak about it but i guess that was wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tough idol]

It was a DLC figure head, be a while yet

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[crimson flume]

Can we combine them in violet?

[crimson flume]

Same lol. Someone on youtube was playing with calyrex. Bruh. I thought it was catch-able in the dlc.

[craggy dagger]

you can combine them but you need calyrex from swsh to be able to

[crimson flume]

Darn. Seems gf forcing people to buy other games.

[craggy dagger]

what’s worse is calyrex shadow is prop gonna demolish the restricted meta

[crimson flume]

Seems I need to play sword soon... sigh..

[knotty mirage]

It just sucks you cannot have both ice rider and shadow rider at same time on one games

[crimson flume]

Same with urshifu. You need 2 kubfus for 2 forms lol. I managed to trade for another kubfu.

[knotty mirage]

Not it's different the thing is you can only combine one calyrex at a times

[craggy dagger]

key item shenanigans.
just like necrozma and kyurem forms you can’t have both at once

[knotty mirage]

Yeah

[craggy dagger]

also the fact that you can’t home a combined form

[burnt marsh]

itll be an expanding farce

[solid frigate]

i don't have the Genies-

[craggy dagger]

oh the genies

[solid frigate]

yea-

[tough idol]

You can combine but one or the other

[next stump]

good luck to everyone looking to secure a spot in EUIC today 🫡

[karmic temple]

Oh man do streams for euic start later today/tomorrow?

[next stump]

Nope hahah, just the signups to play in the event go live today. The event itself is in 6 weeks

[craggy dagger]

o7

[tough idol]

55 minutes and counting

[solid frigate]

Wait is Pokemon Player ID is Username?

[crimson flume]

Managed to get a lando.

Problem is i am out of candies...

Urshifu gobbled up the rest of them.

[solid frigate]

damn-

Urshifu becomes Po for a sec

[crimson flume]

I usually farm bbqs with my PC + discord on.

For now, I guess ill farm tera raids.

Hard to use discord on phone ngl.

[solid frigate]

I need to decide on which team i'm gonna bring if i am gonna participate the Tournament

[crimson flume]

Global Online Tourna?

[solid frigate]

The One in London

[crimson flume]

Oh gl!

[solid frigate]

but yeah maybe Online as well

[tough idol]

Apologies for the language, but FUCK, EUIC Reg requires a Rental. I don't have a Team other than my Liverpool 1

[solid frigate]

https://pokebin.com/148a93802501fd25
Was thinking of this team i heavy Modify it

[solid frigate]

oh boi

worse part i haven't put my rain team inside the rental

[next stump]

Is it required at time of registration? Or can you submit it after you secure your spot

[next stump]

It’s the number you have on your Play! Pokémon account

[solid frigate]

got it,damn i need to save money for the tournament-

and i need to think of which team should i bring into

[craggy dagger]

wh-
that’s…

[tough idol]

It may be OK lol. 2 mins to go. Best not be or I'm not going lol

[solid frigate]

there is Online Tournament i can join but idk man-

Plus i am still deciding on which team To bring

[crimson flume]

Is the online tournament a bo3?

[solid frigate]

As a participation prize, any player that finishes at least three battles will receive 100,000 League Points, a Gold Bottle Cap and an Ability Patch.

i think its BO3

[craggy dagger]

Global challenge isn’t bo3 i think

[strange fjord]

It's like ladder.

[solid frigate]

isn't? Ok

[strange fjord]

Bo1 Close Team Sheets

With Rating going up and down

[solid frigate]

so its basically Showdown

[craggy dagger]

yeah that’s what i thought

[strange fjord]

Limited Battles

and Limited times

[craggy dagger]

cause how do you ots bo3 online

[solid frigate]

anyways

[strange fjord]

Limitless is the service they use of Bo3 Online. But obv not here since its all in game.

[solid frigate]

wait-

you have same name as me lol

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-peter-otto-octavius-doctor-octopus-spider-man-no-way-home-hey-peter-gif-22940477

[solid frigate]

[autumn vault]

Hello, Peter

My name isn't Petter

[strange fjord]

Hello, isn't Petter.

[real prairie]

@tough idol https://twitter.com/PokemonNewsUK/status/1760742505417499099?t=m2rD8xJwBTyCm44M6RVfrA&s=19

Pokémon UK (@PokemonNewsUK) on X

Registration for the Pokémon Europe International Championships is now LIVE! 🏆

Follow the relevant link below to sign up now.

Spectator: https://t.co/hKoGKr8k85
Competitor: https://t.co/qCjMVTO7O0

We can't wait to catch you in London this April!

#PokemonEUIC

Twitter · Feb 22, 2024, 7:05 PM

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/35d5de5c96c063fb
i need help…

[timber falcon]

yes im near here

[timber falcon]

thats some interesting pick u have there

[charred saddle]

no protect on enam?

[craggy dagger]

nope full offence

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 905: Enamorus

Types

Fairy/Flying

Abilities

Cute Charm, Contrary (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/115/70/135/80/106

Total

580

Other Formes

Enamorus-Therian

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

i should add protect though-

i could replace weather ball

[grizzled bronze]

such a weird enamorus set tho

there's like no moves that can take advantage of contrary

[charred saddle]

only stellar tera so ye

[grizzled bronze]

draining kiss when there's dazzling gleam

or moonblast

[tough idol]

That sold out for tonight so fast

6am alarm incoming

[autumn vault]

Good luck on the tourney Peter Morris

[tough idol]

You looked me up from Liverpool didn't you

[autumn vault]

This is where i discovered your name

[tough idol]

Ah well lol 😆

Forgot that bit. But either way, you'd need a name to track

[autumn vault]

Ik that in tournaments you have to register with your real name, don't worry it's the last time i will call you by your name

[real prairie]

Well there goes my chance there will be availability left on payday (next Wednesday) 😭

[craggy dagger]

drain kiss is for once i have +1

[tough idol]

Wave 2 tomorrow morning

[craggy dagger]

cause it hits hard and i get healing

[grizzled bronze]

eh

you have to burn tera for that tho

[craggy dagger]

i know

it’s a second option to have ig

[grizzled bronze]

and who knows if you can even guarantee that +1

[craggy dagger]

wym?

i have fake outs for days xD

[grizzled bronze]

a decent player can play around that

[craggy dagger]

idk-
would you rather i have eviolite servine with stellar tera tera blast instead-

[real prairie]

Guess I won't be competing then 😢

[tough idol]

Looking same for me, so many ppl

[crimson flume]

Tried Tera Ground Iron Crown!

I was happy when I saw super effective tera blast

[craggy dagger]

tera ground is usually the better way to go

but i know that tera water crown also exists-
both offer great coverage :>

[crimson flume]

Latest fight so far. Not sure why he burned my crown though. Crown is a special attacker...

[timber falcon]

its overpon

[karmic temple]

I like tera water because it’s what tofu put in his blog post and I’m too lazy to change it 😌

[timber falcon]

in the tofu we trust

[crimson flume]

I can't count how many times I insta killed an amoongus. I gave incin safety goggles for a reason.

[timber falcon]

did they just decide not to tera

[craggy dagger]

burn is for chip-
and lefties negation if you have lefties

[crimson flume]

Lead was a dusklops and a snorlax. He didn't tera.

[timber falcon]

he lead what?

[crimson flume]

For some reason, his snorlax spammed belly drum in front of my urshifu...

[craggy dagger]

cause with burn, you have to be more careful with rolls of ohkos

[crimson flume]

I was like.. "okay. Free kill"

[timber falcon]

oh snorlax tr sweep

[crimson flume]

Yeah.

[craggy dagger]

where’s tofu-
cause lax is his mon-

[crimson flume]

He probably got overconfident after killing my torn, so much that he did another belly drum in front of an urshifu that had close combat.

[timber falcon]

another?

[crimson flume]

Belly drum. Ice punch. Belly drum. Faint.

[timber falcon]

why the heck he go twice

[crimson flume]

Dusclops spammed a will o wisp and then TR

[craggy dagger]

wait why did they belly drum twice-

[crimson flume]

No idea. Overconfidence maybe or greedy.

[craggy dagger]

this is standard dusclops behaviour

[crimson flume]

Yea.

[craggy dagger]

wisp tr pain split

[timber falcon]

and then refuse to die

[crimson flume]

I almost panicked when snorlax did another belly drum. Cause after the first belly drum, torn died from full hp with ice punch.

[timber falcon]

yeah ofc its max attack

[crimson flume]

Then I realized I can just close combat him lol.

[timber falcon]

im so confused at his play

[crimson flume]

Its lower masters

[timber falcon]

yeah but theres overconfidence and theres setting up infront of something thats 100% gonna OHKO you

maybe he missclicked?

[crimson flume]

Yeah. Even I got confused and almost panicked.

Hahaha.

I always assume my opponents do something for a good reason. "Assume"

[timber falcon]

guess thats just in game pokemon, where the wierdest sets and players reside

[craggy dagger]

HEY-

[solid frigate]

lol

[shell sandal]

yep i used to be a 50/50 type of dude lol, now im rank 2000

[real prairie]

NGL not being able to apply for London is really killing my competitive motivation, this was what i was hoping to grind towards, I assumed registration would have opened in March since its in April 😭

Are there any other UK based tournaments before worlds?

[solid frigate]

appearently

No

[real prairie]

ah that sucks

guess I have a long grind for next year

[craggy dagger]

it’s always nice to start after worlds.
gets your motivation up to compete for CP for the season

[real prairie]

was there only the single UK regional between Japan and Hawaii?

[next stump]

There is still another wave of registration tomorrow that you can try for

I think there was only that one UK regional, everything else was in other countries

[craggy dagger]

i think so yeah-

[real prairie]

Won't be able to, won't have money til payday, with 3 kids we live pretty much paycheck to paycheck unfortunately. Also had a car accident early in the month so that wiped out my savings 😭

That's life though sometimes

[solid frigate]

Say that to me who does not have a job yet and 2 days later turn 18

[real prairie]

Haha what I'd do to be 18 again, hope you have a good bday

[solid frigate]

yeah.

[shell sandal]

how do you qual for regionals

or is there any online tournaments i can compete in thats not on the world level lol

[real prairie]

Regionals only require application

Worlds requires qualifications

[shell sandal]

i dont want to be on TV lol

so i would never do regionals, j curious

[real prairie]

Loads of online tournaments but they aren't to the scale of worlds obviously

Smogon has loads in various different formats

[shell sandal]

nah i want vgc style

[solid frigate]

The thing is,most of us Play VGC

[real prairie]

They have a few Vgc tournaments

But not many

[solid frigate]

Yeah

[real prairie]

Local card game shops sometimes host their own too

Not so much in the UK, but loads in the US

Growing community in London though

[solid frigate]

yeah-

Grow UK's Pokemon Comp Community man

[next stump]

you could do local tournaments if you’re only thing is you don’t want to risk being on stream

your*

[nocturne holly]

I’m sure you could ask to not be shown on stream

[leaden raptor]

best item for H-Samurott?

[craggy dagger]

mmmm
whatcha looking for exactly?

[leaden raptor]

a good item for indigo disk

thinking between life orb or black glasses

[craggy dagger]

hamurott could work.
it’s not in the best place rn with urshifu and the fighting and electric weakness in vgc-

oh-
nvm black glasses sharpness ceaseless could work

tera dark on top if you wanna go overkill

[leaden raptor]

thanks

[craggy dagger]

but ceaseless, sacred, razor shell, flex slot would work well with sharpness

[nocturne holly]

You can use anything for that

The dlc is pretty easy

but yea glasses is optimized

[craggy dagger]

i’ve seen non vgc players struggle a bit

[leaden raptor]

1-10 how was it for you?

1 being easy

[craggy dagger]

i haven’t actually played it-
but with a decent team i would say maybe 8-9?

[leaden raptor]

alright

[nocturne holly]

1

the hard part was how long it was

I don’t enjoy Pokémon games much nowadays

It’s really just vgc

[mighty stump]

I highly enjoyed the DLC

Everytime they managed to KO something I was like “wow they KO’d something”

[tired atlas]

Fr lmao

[nocturne holly]

they never did anything for me

with all the hype about Carmen being like crazy good at battling

she’s kinda shit

[bold geode]

Big funny

[nocturne holly]

nemona was crazy tho

she was actually helpful

[echo hatch]

Playing ladder on console and on two different teams I’ve seen raging bolt with solar beam and firepon with quick attack

Wtf is going on

I guess solar beam on bolt is not that weird with sun but quick attack on firepon had me perplexed for a minute

[shell sandal]

what is a good ranking in masterball? im at 3,000 rn

[next stump]

it completely depends on your definition of good

[molten oasis]

What are y’all up to

[molten oasis]

What is the point in running solar beam on bolt lmao

Quick attack kinda makes sense, you get a way to kill things that are low hp

But at that point run grassy glide with rilla lol

[dull ibex]

Setting up a vm

[bold geode]

What dat

[dull ibex]

Virtual machine

[bold geode]

Ah

[echo hatch]

Trust me I’m just as confused

Solar beam fucked me up mentally when it came out

Did like no damage as well

[craggy dagger]

solar beam bolt-
huh-?

[echo hatch]

I don’t know!!!

That’s what I’m asking

[craggy dagger]

wait fire pon with quick attack-

its not like eviolite servine is worse enough-

[smoky hawk]

After you + trick room. Does anyone know if that works?

[bold geode]

Yes

[smoky hawk]

That's badass. My tr team can potentially do that

[next stump]

wait lmao does that actually work hahaha I never really thought of that

[mighty stump]

It does

[molten oasis]

Neat

[mighty stump]

Lol

[molten oasis]

What is it for?

[mighty stump]

Do you remember Prankster Trick Room

in Gen 8

[molten oasis]

Wasn’t that something involved with riolu?

[mighty stump]

Hatterene would click Max Guard, but Prankster Copycat would copy “Max Guard” as TR since that was the base

This lead to you settjng TR at +1 priority

Lmaoo

[molten oasis]

Lmao

Goofy ass meta

[dull ibex]

A virtual machine?

[molten oasis]

Well what are you making it for

[dull ibex]

using windows for gaming while im on linux

[molten oasis]

Nice

[dull ibex]

yep

[dull ibex]

and it was never used 🙂

not on mass atleast

[bold geode]

Boys fuck it
Wanna VC

I'll take that as a no

[dull ibex]

If we get more people

[bold geode]

@mighty stump wanna VC?

[charred saddle]

poopoopeesoo

[bold geode]

Holy shit

Also my one post on the three teams got 35 views

Nice

I guess I could work on a post

[charred saddle]

which team?

the three dragons thing?

[bold geode]

Yup

[charred saddle]

ooo nice

[rustic mountain]

faced a poison tera covert cloak bm ursaluna b4

[bold geode]

Man

[rustic mountain]

sometimes u gta jus take the L and move on

im never gna account for that

[mighty stump]

im at work

[bold geode]

Oh u got job?

[mighty stump]

Yeah I met Covert Cloak

[mighty stump]

No, internship

I mentioned this

Lol

[bold geode]

Ah

[bold geode]

Also I'm writing up a blogpost on the team rn, once I'm done, imma need you to read what I wrote lol
Probably will be evening time for you

[mighty stump]

I’ll probably do that after the NPAA

[bold geode]

Read my stuff?

I mainly need you to look at it to help me make sure on the two spreads I took from you lmao

[mighty stump]

Man’s using my spreads for his content

[bold geode]

Fuck you

[mighty stump]

Damn don’t make me rescind permission

kekw

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

Good job idiot you almost lost tofu permissions

[dull ibex]

I return

oh also VMs allow to test out operating systems without removing mine

[cyan smelt]

why you need a vm

[dull ibex]

A virtual machine

Or two in this case

[cyan smelt]

ik what a vm is lol i'm just wondering what you need it for

[dull ibex]

gaming on linux

and testing different OS

[cyan smelt]

Fair enough

[dull ibex]

if i can get it working

[next stump]

https://twitter.com/billavgc/status/1760955760039637068?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

BillaVGC (@BillaVGC) on X

1117 VG players currently registered for EUIC, take out JR/SR players and no shows, we will just miss the Top512 CP kicker of 1024 masters.

Twitter · Feb 23, 2024, 9:12 AM

that’s a lot of people lol

[dusty gate]

That many players?

[craggy dagger]

[upbeat quail]

Strange Steam or Dazzling gleam on Galarian Weezing?

[charred saddle]

i see more dgleam i think

[dapper crag]

Move: Strange Steam

Has a 20% chance to confuse the target.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[charred saddle]

id just use dgleam tbh

[real prairie]

whats the base power of Return in competitive?

102?

[dapper crag]

Move: Return

Power is equal to the greater of (user's Happiness * 2/5), rounded down, or 1.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[timber falcon]

Increased chances to get a shiny amoongus from outbreaks!!! YIPEEEEEE

ima get myself one of those cockroaches

[smoky quail]

Hi. What should I start for Ranked Online Battle Single Format aiming to the Master Rank? Like possibly Mono-type or need top Meta Pokemon? Just curious

[next stump]

If you pure goal is to reach master ball, play the meta

[smoky quail]

Figure. What list of Meta do I play?

[next stump]

I don’t play singles myself but you can check pikalytics.com for the most used pokemon

and assemble a team from there

[timber falcon]

Just never go monotype. That’s not good

[smoky quail]

Oh thanks. I know Chien-Pao is big must

[gentle crag]

burningcharizard has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[smoky quail]

Ahh. Why? Your reasons?

[timber falcon]

I recommend having meta countering mons. Or just singles shenanigan shutdowns as I call them, taunt on a mon in ur team is a must, ur gonna want a blood moon ursa counter and setting up is good for chipping stall teams

[timber falcon]

Gives ur opponent massive advantage when sending mons out, just not worth it if ur playing to win

[smoky quail]

Means, mix any types? I see.

[timber falcon]

Yes, u don’t wanna be predictable

[smoky quail]

So.... Crashed Bloodmoon is a big threat, plus it's ability is pretty good, can damage Ghost Pokemon

[timber falcon]

Yeah u might aswell actually run it, but make sure you also don’t die to it, personally for singles I like assault vest flutter, but that’s just me

Shuts down the beat pretty well

[smoky quail]

That makes sense why my Mono-type team like Fire team, are easily to be predictable

[timber falcon]

Yeah

[timber falcon]

Also chien pao is anything but a must in’s singles, it’s not easy to swap in and with stealth rocks, spikes and toxic spikes being quite frequent

[smoky quail]

I'm thinking about steaming on Ranked Battle via YouTube.

[timber falcon]

Good luck

[smoky quail]

@timber falcon But yeah. Taunt is a big must of I don't want let him set up the stage. Means, I have to rush beat up

[timber falcon]

Yeah taunt also shits down gimmicks which ruin my day

[autumn vault]

Its an ubers pokemon

[smoky quail]

That's why I can't set up my stage for the full power, like Charizard under Sunny. If ruined by Rain Dance

[timber falcon]

But this is ranked singles

[timber falcon]

And not all Ubers are good in Ubers

[autumn vault]

True

[craggy dagger]

avalanche kitty is good in singles though

[autumn vault]

There is ubersUU but necrozma dawn wings and shaymin sky are awful in ubers but too good for ubersUU

UbersUU is for the weaklings of the uber tier

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah I went back to singles to check out the meta (literally no meta in singles 😭) and registeel is a nice wall sweeper

[timber falcon]

At least as far as I know people just using whatever the heck does damage or is rly bulky

https://pokepast.es/d8defecc894f5195 oh and yeah I’ve got a team I made, it’s really odd but works

[craggy dagger]

for singles?
it’s stall or go hard

hence why clod actually isn’t bad in singles

[timber falcon]

Fr, no one ever said “use a balanced team for singles”

[craggy dagger]

also you only need to worry about one pokemon going down and only need to focus on that one MU

instead of being aware of a second threat etc

[timber falcon]

The problem is u also got half the team

[craggy dagger]

it’s 3 in singles right? compared to 4 in vgc

[timber falcon]

So u gotta try and get the right MU for stall teams

[timber falcon]

Yep

I remember the torture of realising my last 2 mons were spatckers and he proceeds to throw out a blissy

Vgc better

[craggy dagger]

singles is where mixed attackers thrive imo

[timber falcon]

Yeah but back then I was new so all my evs for max or nothing

[craggy dagger]

but max max has its benefits too

[real prairie]

Roost multiscale loaded dice Dragonite is very good for singles

[waxen remnant]

i’ve been doing random gen 9 doubles (showdown) to try to get a better understanding of how to play. at what rating should i start feeling more confident in my playing ability? waiting to play actual doubles until i’m somewhere solid & can feel good ab myself & my team🫡🫡

[next stump]

random doubles is not really equivalent at all to VGC (regular doubles)

[craggy dagger]

it helps with getting used to the doubles scene though

as well as being able to adapt quickly

[autumn vault]

but its 6v6, VGC is 4v4

with no randomness included

[craggy dagger]

well yeah but i’m saying it helps with getting familiar with how doubles works.
2 on the field etc-
and then there’s the adapting situation where it’s random so you’ll have to think more with what you have and what you can do with it

[autumn vault]

true

[craggy dagger]

but once you get into vgc, you get to make a team so you’ll be more familiar with your team

plus levels-

[next stump]

that’s like saying the campaign story mode helps you get better at VGC, maybe technically but if your end goal is VGC you’re wasting time

[autumn vault]

you can practice to get more familiar with the team instead of playing randomness to improve

[next stump]

that similarities really end at it being 2v2

[craggy dagger]

campaign is AI though
while showdown randbats is other people so there are more unpredictable moments

and both do help with getting familiar with the 2 pokemon on the field

as a foundation before you start with everything else

[next stump]

that’s not a skill you need to develop before playing VGC though, that’s something you learn as you play. And even then, it’s something that maybe takes like 20-30 games to get used to if you’re a singles player primarily

[craggy dagger]

biggest drawbacks i can see is that your teams are random and also that the levels don’t match at all

[autumn vault]

i play both formats

[autumn vault]

its 50/50 vs 50/50

levels do not help at all

[craggy dagger]

i owe my game sense kickoff to the randbats format

with resists and having to improvise sometimes if it doesn’t go your way

but ultimately the better way to start is grab a rental do some reading and then pilot the rental

[craggy dagger]

but in randbats it ranges from 60s to 100

also they’re not calced to EV anything

[autumn vault]

it still makes pokemon look super broken while some would look bad when in VGC they are incredibly good

[craggy dagger]

yeah that’s a negative as well

[light mural]

is there anyone who can trade me a 0iv speed blood ursaluna. i want to make a trick room team and kind of need it

[timber falcon]

#trading_sv

[tough idol]

You'll be lucky tbh, since it's an RNG grind to get one in the first place

[craggy dagger]

would check #1112832566261731328 or #trading_sv
there’s more people in #1112832566261731328 so i would def check there first

[tough idol]

Also is anyone here attending EUIC? I didn't even get close to getting a ticket

[craggy dagger]

i know two peeps are spectating but dunno about competitors tickets

[smoky quail]

Scale Shot for Dragonite? Since it holds Loaded Dice

[next stump]

I don’t think anyone is, unless maybe a lurker is going

[craggy dagger]

oh dillon you’re not going?

[next stump]

I really wish I could go but it’s right in the middle of my semester and as a teacher it’s kinda tough to take multiple vacation days in a row

I’ll be at NAIC though since it’s over summer

[craggy dagger]

ah that makes sense

[tough idol]

I was kinda gutted I missed out, but I'll focus more on next season and doing multiple events plus locals now I have some places near me

[real prairie]

I wish

[craggy dagger]

oooo lucky-
the nearest local i can go to is a 4 hour drive…
yet somehow the regionals is a 10 min walk

[next stump]

that’s a smart approach, I honestly think taking 1-2 seasons to just get your bearings and get some experience is very worthwhile

and then once you feel comfortable and can plan ahead, dive in

[tough idol]

I've now got an extra £1k for my holiday in September

Which I'd have blown at EUIC with travel and PokeCentre lol

[next stump]

I never really understand the people who spend like $2000-3000 on their first ever season when they’re most likely just going 4-5 or 5-4 at every event, just go to a couple and grind out locals. I guess some people have a ton of money to spend on their hobby hahaha

[tough idol]

Mine would mostly have been souvenirs lol 😆

Damn plushies and pins lol

[craggy dagger]

some people do have enough money to splurge and go do their hobbies but i feel like there’s also a travelling aspect which is nice to imagine

[grizzled sonnet]

I used to do more competitive a while back. But my cooking career and movie extra stuff kept me busy. But I'm def getting back into it

[tough idol]

Gonna link up with Mika next season and look at a US Regional/Holiday

[real prairie]

£70 extra to spend in the Pokémon centre 😉

[tough idol]

I haven't bothered getting a Spectator ticket, can't justify the travel and hotel expense if I'm not competing for experience lol

[craggy dagger]

if i do end up going to a regionals i feel like i would spend too much on plushies and pins

[tough idol]

It's around £70 just in travel I think plus hotels n food

[real prairie]

I'll take my son just for the Pokémon centre tbh, let me know if you want anything picked up

[craggy dagger]

i want to expand my plushie collection

[tough idol]

Liverpool ticket = £60
Plushies/Pins = £200
Lol ✨️ 😆

[next stump]

pokémon center pop ups are so cool, i’m jealous 😭

[grizzled sonnet]

I used to buy so many Pokemon plushies just cause

[real prairie]

I'm also planning on starting 3d printing soon so if anyone wants any custom pieces in a few months let me know, first few whilst I get the hang of it will be freebies 😁

[grizzled sonnet]

I stick with my Eevee Evolution ones

[craggy dagger]

there hasn’t been a pop up centre in NA yet has there?

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/202ab0038c69d916 any thoughts on this team? Another impulse team

[craggy dagger]

palafin :0

[timber falcon]

Yep yep

[tough idol]

Who let Palafin out of jail

[craggy dagger]

air slash through

[timber falcon]

Bleakwind make me wanna throw myself out a window

[next stump]

there was one at NAIC last year

[craggy dagger]

bleakwind is just better cause spread

[next stump]

not super big though

[craggy dagger]

ah-

[tough idol]

Next on my list is Official Substitute plush

[timber falcon]

Just won a game to flinch airslash

[molten oasis]

Palafin?

[timber falcon]

Mhm

[molten oasis]

Why?

[timber falcon]

Water core

Cause no I’m am horrible and I mean HORRIBLE at piloting rapid strike

[molten oasis]

But you’re using single strike?

[timber falcon]

I’m better at single

[molten oasis]

Wouldn’t wellspring and incin make more sense then?

[timber falcon]

Wellspring doesn’t hit as hard as I want it to

[molten oasis]

Id even generally prefer Primarina ngl

[molten oasis]

So here’s what you can do

Swords dance wellspring

[timber falcon]

Yeah I’ve tried that but wellspring is walled by grass rilla wayy to easily

[molten oasis]

SO IS PALAFIN????

[timber falcon]

No cause he can’t change type

Waterpon stuck with water

[molten oasis]

That’s a good thing

Ogerpon counteracts that with having a special defense boost

Which helps with swords dance

Urshifu is walled by fairies

Torn is walled by any resistances

[timber falcon]

Not much fairy threats though

[timber falcon]

As always

[molten oasis]

Yea and there’s a whopping 4 things that wall wellspring rn

[nocturne holly]

I never thought hands would drop to 7% 😭

my baby

[molten oasis]

Rilla, amoonguss, bolt, and like, moon

[timber falcon]

3 of which are meta

[molten oasis]

And you counteract this by running things they don’t like so wellspring can set up

[timber falcon]

Hmm true, but then again wellspring feels like more of a defensive option

In that scenario

[molten oasis]

Wellspring is 1, the best Pokémon in the format, and 2, very flexible

[timber falcon]

Wellspring is top???

[molten oasis]

It’s topping flutter in Regionals

And flutter is just a nuke button

Wellspring is more flexible

[timber falcon]

Pretty sure you can’t base use off Pokemon from regionals alone, like rapid still got more usage but single seeing more regional usage

[molten oasis]

[timber falcon]

Good lord what was I saying

[molten oasis]

Single has been getting more usage on cart

The pikanaytics stats are off

[timber falcon]

Oh ok

[molten oasis]

I generally see wellspring way more than flutter rn

[nocturne holly]

what are you running right now drago

Might get back to vgc in a few days

[molten oasis]

Also here’s another thing with palafin

you HAVE to switch it out to get it going

Especially nowadays

[timber falcon]

That’s why I got 2 big and bulkies

[molten oasis]

It doesn’t do shit without it

Yea but also like, it instantly loses to rillaboom

[timber falcon]

Tera

[molten oasis]

Tera ice makes it defensively shit into everything

[nocturne holly]

Palafin gets easily powerceept

not being able to have that insane attack on the get go is a huge detriment

[molten oasis]

What do you do infront of Hearthflame and rillaboom?

[timber falcon]

Oh yeah what does power creep do

Mean*

[nocturne holly]

like

the power levels are just like way stronger

[molten oasis]

It’s when mons that are better overtake Mon that we’re good in previous formats

[nocturne holly]

everything meta is way stronger than say reg a

[molten oasis]

Like, let’s take reg a and reg b

In reg a meowscarada, murkrow, hydreigon were all hard meta

Reg b introduced flutter, hands, and bundle

[timber falcon]

Oh ok I get it

[molten oasis]

Which put them all (especially flutter causing this) out of a job

[craggy dagger]

eh-?

[timber falcon]

Also against rilla heart flame I’d go heart flame torn

[molten oasis]

That’s

Dude that is NOT what I am talking about

[timber falcon]

Oh

[molten oasis]

Ik not saying lead into

[nocturne holly]

I think he meant in like paladins case

[molten oasis]

Ik saying in that position

[craggy dagger]

wasn’t there a dancer quaquaval combo that was shredding everything down in reg a?

[molten oasis]

That counterpoint sucks ass

Cuz it’s putting things into a different situation

[molten oasis]

It was fine

Reg a was very weird

[craggy dagger]

i don’t remember the exact team but reg a was kinda fun

[molten oasis]

reg a is my by far most hated format

I was new so I was already struggling

And like, that meta was kinda just “beat dozo”

Cuz if you don’t you auto lose to it

[craggy dagger]

well it was fun cause there’s almost no tools except for the pokemon in the original dex-
but yeah dozo was kinda boring

[molten oasis]

Yea, anyway @timber falcon don’t run palafin

[craggy dagger]

what made it fun for me was how creative we had to get

[molten oasis]

There’s better options

[craggy dagger]

as much as i love palafin-
it just doesn’t fit in the meta at all rn

[molten oasis]

Tera ICE of all things does not make up for it

[craggy dagger]

watch palafin shred through euic

[molten oasis]

I doubt that even ohkos bolt

[timber falcon]

I’ll think about swapping it out, I’ll change the tera and maybe if it loses me games wellspring it is

But for now I’ll keep testing it

[craggy dagger]

atm it’s outclassed by too many things while being shutdown by fari and other prio deniers

[molten oasis]

252+ Atk Tera-Ice Palafin-Hero Ice Punch vs. 116 HP / 92 Def Raging Bolt: 162-192 (75.3 - 89.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[craggy dagger]

no way-

[nocturne holly]

I remember I got into vgc when I caught a shiny iron hands and my math teacher said it would be really good

[molten oasis]

Oh yea funnily enough

Wellspring has an great mu into palafin

[craggy dagger]

bro bolt is stupidly bulky

[molten oasis]

It’s awesome lol

[craggy dagger]

i love it xD

[nocturne holly]

Didn’t you run like av bolt

[molten oasis]

I love raging bolt

[molten oasis]

Av bolt is so good

[craggy dagger]

it’s part of my lati balance team that’s not doing well cause lati balance

[nocturne holly]

av is good now lmao

[nocturne holly]

lemme show you MY LATIAS BALANCE 😈

[craggy dagger]

i still run lefties-

[molten oasis]

Also I’d share my team but I’m keeping it private for now, it’ll most likely be a rental

(I have already given you a hint on the center point)

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/0c329d2676e94d3f

[nocturne holly]

oh yea I WAS GONNA STEAL YOUR TWAM 😈🔫🦖

[molten oasis]

Good thing I didn’t share it then

I will say, the thing I am running is a really great anti meta pick

[craggy dagger]

this is what i have atm-
rilla gambit is a placeholder but its doing well-
debating on dango now

https://pokepast.es/fbedacc268eb8bb1

[molten oasis]

It’s good into a really big chunk of the meta

[craggy dagger]

lemme guess-
gapdos?
cause of the pfp change

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[craggy dagger]

i should look into gapdos more

[nocturne holly]

Definitely don’t want gambit and dengo together

Rilla looks good on this tbh

[craggy dagger]

i should swap dango for fari shouldn’t i

[nocturne holly]

If you do that you also get the tr route for gambit

I wish latias got tr

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[molten oasis]

Mhmm

[craggy dagger]

i’ll make a copy of it with fari instead of dango

[molten oasis]

My team has 2 niche picks

That I’ve had my eye on

[craggy dagger]

my teams are usually too niche to actually function well

[molten oasis]

Lol, prob cuz no one knows what you’re doing

[craggy dagger]

i recently came across eviolite and i’m messing around with it too much

[molten oasis]

Eviolite on what?

[craggy dagger]

bisharp, torracat, scyther, brionne

P2 and Dusclops are a given since they’ve been around since swsh

magby and electabuzz too cause they got follow me back

[nocturne holly]

TORRACAT

[craggy dagger]

yeah-

it can live a SS with a roll if you max max into hp def

[nocturne holly]

So can incin w/o eviolite

[craggy dagger]

while incin can’t unless berry recovery

[nocturne holly]

I don’t see why you would use to react over it

[craggy dagger]

idk

it’s a faster incin

[nocturne holly]

what else are you using the berry on lol

[dapper crag]

Torracat's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Bite, Body Slam, Covet, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Dual Chop, Endeavor, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Fang, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Leech Life, Lick, Outrage, Pay Day, Power Trip, Return, Revenge, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thrash, Trailblaze, U-turn

Special Moves

Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Overheat, Round, Snore, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Bulk Up, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Growl, Helping Hand, Leer, Nasty Plot, Parting Shot, Protect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Torracat.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[nocturne holly]

A lot of incins use comes out of being a slow Pivot

It doesn’t need speed

[molten oasis]

you dumb or something?

oh w/o nvm lol

[nocturne holly]

PUT SOME RESPECT INTO MY NAME

[craggy dagger]

hey

tofu came up with the suggestion cause i hated incin-

[nocturne holly]

so you choose the little brat child

[molten oasis]

youve been gone for like a month

[nocturne holly]

yea 😭

[craggy dagger]

bisharp is interesting…
it’s like torracat in its a faster gambit

[nocturne holly]

I’ll get back into vgc in a few days

I’m still decent I think

[craggy dagger]

i’m still garbage as usual 😎

[molten oasis]

bad mindsets

be positive about yourself

[craggy dagger]

okay but drago-
i cook up the worst sets ever

[nocturne holly]

just use rentals

imo piloting>teambuilding

Both are really important tho

[craggy dagger]

no no i’m confident in my plays.
i just wanna start making teams

[nocturne holly]

Well then maybe start with normal sets
To make anti meta you must understand meta

[rustic mountain]

[kindred cypress]

Speaking of that, what would a team look like if each Mon is a counter to each of the top 6 used?

The only one I can think of is empoleon to incin

[nocturne holly]

https://tenor.com/view/vignesh123-vigneshfisrtgif-yoda123-yodamars-gif-3921821958953538672

[rustic mountain]

nah i def agree tho

[craggy dagger]

i mean most of my sets are pretty standard meta sets
but theres always a few that i have to make myself cause people dont use that pokemon much at all etc

[rustic mountain]

a full anti meta team generally wouldnt work, usually u want 1 or 2 things that are anti meta surrounding things that are (that make sense w/ them) to actually consistently win. especially with how reg f is, countering jus the top 6 isnt really helpful, its a really diverse format. ud want ur anti meta pick to be good into the general field

[nocturne holly]

☝️

[craggy dagger]

if you we're making a team that would only counter the top 6, what would you do if you didnt encounter them?
do the pokemon who counter the top 6 have enough synergy to work together?
those would be the first questions i would ask myself before i continue

[rustic mountain]

1. cry 2. idk

[craggy dagger]

xD
while im not the smartest when it comes to teambuilding i think i've explored enough of teambuilding to know what pokemon actually work together

[rustic mountain]

thatd take extensive testing and like foundation of wat ur goin for in achieving that (anything outside top 6, top 30?)

nd usually overcompensating or fixating on jus the top 6 can leave holes to other relatively common mons/archetypes that u jus potentially auto lose to

part of teambuilding is having ur team cover as much as possible to net u as many wins as possible. u can be a fantastic player but shackle urself w/ sub optimal mons and strats and r not gna win as consistently as u would otherwise

[kindred cypress]

I’m just saying hypothetically, if you went against the top 6 most used mons, what would be the perfect counter

[craggy dagger]

it would be hard to find the right mon since theres so many team combos etc

[kindred cypress]

Flutter, incin, rilla, torn, raging, and urshi

[rustic mountain]

the answer is lando t, its always been lando t

[craggy dagger]

easiest tip i can say for that situation is run your own flutter, waterpon, incin, rilla, torn

[rustic mountain]

if u cant beat em, join em

-soulblazing

[craggy dagger]

tbf-
why do you think so many people are running meta picks.
most of them counter themselves

they're meta for a reason xD

[rustic mountain]

yea im not necessarily disagreeing, was jus makin a joke

i do think this regulation does offer more options tho

[craggy dagger]

thats true

[rustic mountain]

u dont necessarily need to default to those

but they are strong picks

[craggy dagger]

im fucking terrified about restricted though

[rustic mountain]

haha

wym u dont wanna see life orb tera ghost caly shadow

[craggy dagger]

shadowdee, miraidon-

[rustic mountain]

yea itll b interesting

[craggy dagger]

i mean we've seen this in swsh. there'll be a way to counter i hope...
its just the cripple that shadow has is gone-

[rustic mountain]

what was that?

cuz dmax being gone also benefits it

[craggy dagger]

4x dark weakness

[rustic mountain]

oh u mean that

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

yea

[craggy dagger]

you tera and now theres no 4x weakness

[rustic mountain]

if it becomes too threatening stuff like tera normal and wat not will b popular

itll have its checks, even like incin resists or is immune to its stabs

common incin w

[craggy dagger]

tera dark is my immediate idea for defensive tera against shadow

[rustic mountain]

that too, or jus have ur own dark types

weve seen in reg f, dark type is very strong

[craggy dagger]

mhm

[dapper crag]

Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Phantom Force, Pound, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

draining kiss tera fairy shadow rider

tera fairy would be the default tera for shadow i assume...
its just too good of a typing

[kindred cypress]

Tera ground kyogre, Tera fairy dawn wings necrozma, Tera stellar Zacian

[craggy dagger]

im not worried about kyogre as much

cause i have a troll flutter set to deal with kyogre

booster speed thunder tera electric

take advantage of the rain set by the opposing kyogre

and we also have icy wind for chips

[craggy dagger]

also would be tera thats not ground cause rilla would destroy kyo

[kindred cypress]

Prob ice or poison

[nocturne holly]

Prob poison for kyogre

[next stump]

tera grass most likely

[kindred cypress]

Plus you know who benefits from rain alot

[nocturne holly]

Or grass

[kindred cypress]

Arch

[next stump]

no fire weakness because of rain, spore immunity, electric and grass resistance

[kindred cypress]

Arch kyogre gonna be fun

[craggy dagger]

true

[kindred cypress]

Do y’all think any paradoxes will return when kroridon and miridion come with free proto/quark?

[craggy dagger]

korai might face some issues with that 4x weakness to fairy in that itll become a tera hog 100%

[rustic mountain]

some might have a resurgence, its tough to say w/o seeing wat the meta will be/become

[kindred cypress]

Urshi single got one but he survives, probably same tactics with koridon

[rustic mountain]

wats gna b weird is the sv box legends, flutter and chien pao all being the same base speed

[craggy dagger]

but evil bear has prio so it can sucker punch all day

im waiting to see how pagos unfolds

[rustic mountain]

prolly mid

def bad for single restricted not sure how itll fair in double

[craggy dagger]

but a base 140 spread no resists move?

[kindred cypress]

Bundle with 1 bp higher speed

[rustic mountain]

is that like the main selling point? cuz overall thats not fantastic as ur restricted slot

[dapper crag]

Move: Tera Starstorm

If the user is a Terapagos in Stellar Form, this move's type becomes Stellar and hits all opposing Pokemon.

Type

Normal

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

nvm its 120

but also being able to hit tera'd pokemon for SE while doing spread

its ability is garbage though xD

[rustic mountain]

yea if u can get the tera out before it gets ko'd or in an effective position to take advantage of the tera being spent

idk it jus seems more situational which doesnt feel great for a restricted

[craggy dagger]

yeah i can see your point

[rustic mountain]

i could b wrong but jus how i see it now

[tight verge]

Any good recommendations for incineroar single build (SV)? Feel that not very good in him, current build i m using: careful 252hp 252sdef bulk up, flare blizt, knock off, drain punch, siturs berry, tera flying

[timber falcon]

Why flying Tera

Hmm fighting and ground I guess

[kindred cypress]

It is singles

So don’t expect too much

[pure vigil]

Real fast. Anyone willing to touch trade a gouging fire? I need it for dex. The trading channel is really slow atm

[mighty stump]

Then you just gotta wait it out/make a trading post

[dull ibex]

hello

[mighty stump]

It’s not the appropriate channel to do so here

[dull ibex]

how is everyone

[mighty stump]

Meh

It’s been a shit week

[dull ibex]

yeah I feel I've had an unfortunate first world probelm going on

[bold geode]

That being?

[dull ibex]

I wasted six bucks on a map

They don't offer microtransaction refunds

So I'm stuck with a map that is slowly getting more unplayable

[bold geode]

Oof

I've done that before

[dull ibex]

I would like to buy a different map that works

But mojang doesn't have reviews for their marketplace content that are written

So I can't tell if it's 1 star because the map sucks or it literally degrade over time

So now I have a broken and no money 🙂

[kindred cypress]

There’s the issue, you bought something in Minecraft

[dull ibex]

And?

How was I supposed to know it was broken they don't have reviews

[kindred cypress]

If it’s on the Minecraft store, it’s most likely trash

[dull ibex]

Very unhelpful pop off

Anyways.

Yeah if kinda sucks ngl

[meager isle]

Is reaching Masterball easy?

[mighty stump]

Depends on who you’re asking

For newer players, it’s the first challenge

For other’s, its the warmup

But anyone with an idea of how to play generally is able to reach Master Ball

[meager isle]

oh okay, im not rly a new player so what would be an actual achievement

[mighty stump]

New player with respect to competitive

Not the Pokemon franchise

But achievement wise, that’s for you to really decide

There’s some objective stuff like finishing Top 30 on the ladder, hitting Rank 1, winning a tournament of any sort

Top 500

High GXE%

[meager isle]

ah okayy

[meager isle]

whats considered a high gxe?

[mighty stump]

70+

[molten oasis]

I’m so close, 67% gxe

[meager isle]

alright thanks

mines 45% in gen9ou

but my team has no synergy whatsoever, i just use the pokemon i like most

[mighty stump]

70%, 1500s go

[dull ibex]

I return

[mighty stump]

Why

Have u been playing VGC

[dull ibex]

Why do I return?

I like talking in here, no I haven't been playing vgc much

[mighty stump]

Did you read my message too seriously again

[dull ibex]

Probably not

Sometimes I ignore its a joke

Funnier that way

I don't remember if I took it seriously or just decided to reply seriously

[mighty stump]

Weenus

[dull ibex]

Fair

[mighty stump]

Im glad you understnad

[bold geode]

So inspirational

[mighty stump]

Thank you

I try

[rustic mountain]

[sick coral]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2066689182

[autumn vault]

you have to hate stall

[crimson flume]

Lyco, are you joining the online tournament?

[autumn vault]

the global challenge?

i think so

[crimson flume]

Yea

[hollow sparrow]

best (non ghost) fighting type?

[autumn vault]

Urshifu

[cinder cosmos]

would anyone want to battle me and critique my playing / team later today? it’s OU, singles bc i’m going to be playing against my cousin in an all out battle

[crimson flume]

I don't play singles XD

Doubles and singles are different metas and playstyles iirc.

I'm not the best opponent for this.

[autumn vault]

I play singles but i am trash

[bold geode]

[next stump]

I’m too lazy to google it, does anyone have the list of pokémon week online tournaments

[real prairie]

What's a guaranteed OHKO spread move for fraf

Faced a couple Indeedee fraf leads to set up TR and id rather they didn't lol

[next stump]

indeedee/farigarif?

I don't think there's anything single move that can OHKO farig as a spread, closest thing is maybe specs Chi-Yu heat wave

[real prairie]

So ideally I need to OHKO Indeedee and then either OHKO or taunt Farig

[next stump]

well, you have a couple options:

• Use two spread moves, something like Dazzling Gleam from Flutter + Heat Wave from Chi-Yu
• OHKO the Indeedee and then either taunt or OHKO Farig
• Use the first turn of the game to set up your board in a way where you can pressure on turn 2. Farigarif + Indeedee is a super passive lead, the worst thing that can come your way turn 2 is helping hand + expanding force

[real prairie]

Thanks

[silver ravine]

Any advice on a 6th? This is my first "sweaty" team. I was thinking of Torn for a prankster tailwind. It would just be a pain having to get Sword/Shield. Just need to get Scarlet or find someone willing to trade for a Flutter in a particular apriball. https://pokepast.es/c7556d5154d6cd0b

[timber falcon]

Tailwind looks nice here

But then again ur missing grass and water core

[silver ravine]

Do I need grass and water? I picked chi because it fits well with flutter

[kindred cypress]

U got pla?

Torn is from there

[tough idol]

Would Stalwart Archaludon have a move that could OHKO Giraff

Ability ignores redirection

[silver ravine]

Nah so either way it's a new game. Though pla would probably be the cheaper route

[kindred cypress]

You could always get whimsicott

[kindred cypress]

Rock and ground types go bye with water grass

[silver ravine]

Yeah it's not that much worse and it's a budget option. Thank you

[gentle crag]

striferealists has given 1 Gen Rep to th3awes0meness

[kindred cypress]

The issue is that arch really prefers stamina for body press

[tough idol]

Just giving an option for getting shot of Giraffe, with Deedee potentially going for Follow Me

Then again, Deedee could TR and Giraffe dies for nought anyway, need to get both Ideally