competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

Steel is fine if you can control the Fire weakness

[dull ibex]

Tofu

I bought the video game

[brazen bough]

I'm on my way

@mighty stump dyk if there is a faster way to submit team sheets

or whether or not it is based on your stats after ev's?

[mighty stump]

Theres the Extreme Speed extension, but I’m not a part of the circuit

[brazen bough]

k

[mighty stump]

p o G

[brazen bough]

@next stump is the teamsheet for the rk9 supposed to be on in game pokemon

also do i use the pokemon's actual levels or set them to level 50

[next stump]

yes it’s supposed the exact final stats of your in game pokemon

whatever level they are in game

[brazen bough]

ok

so evs included

[next stump]

EVs included

[brazen bough]

ok

[next stump]

whatever the final stat is

[brazen bough]

ty

[next stump]

you’re welcome

[dull ibex]

Ye

[next stump]

GL to anyone playing tomorrow, sleep time for me

[clever chasm]

Hey anyone here in chat to help me out i have a question

[bold geode]

What need

[charred saddle]

i need you

🙈

[bold geode]

Finally someone does

[charred saddle]

[bold geode]

[cosmic gust]

Can anyone help with items

[bold geode]

Floatzel is not good rn
Azelf is meh at best
Hands would want AV more than anything
Latias likes support more with like Rocky Helmet
Kon Mo O and Incineroar are the only two viable ones other than Hands I see rn
Then again, a Pokepaste would go a long way

[molten oasis]

latias isnt viable???

latias is good, i think its just a bad point in the meta for it since its just, HO shenanigans

[bold geode]

I didn't say Latias wasn't viable per se
Just not as a offensive piece, which I see the item for such there

[autumn kelp]

Honestly I had slapt teams with Latias so ez

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/e058740203ff06d1 couldnt leave my boi smeargle behind, so i made the team revolve around him

thinking of going roaring over incin though, any thoughts?

[summer knot]

Could I get a sample for pelipper in a rain party?

[bold geode]

Just use shit like Urshifu or Ogerpon
Or stuff that can have defensive benefits from it, like Rillaboom or Gholdengo

That's what rain teams usually do

And as for Pelipper itself, you can honestly just go sash max spatk max speed usually no problem

[eager swallow]

https://pokepast.es/9929868a666ec334 what can i do to improve this team

[fast ether]

I'd recommend
@Eject Button, Grass Tera
Drizzle Ability, Bold Nature
HB252 D4 (H=Health, B=Defense, D=Sp. Defense
Moveset
Chilling Water
Hurricane
U-Turn
Roost

[lofty tartan]

Pelipper is too frail in this meta to make viable use of an Eject Button and can be too badly outsped by most threats to make viable use of U-Turn or Roost. That's why most of them go with Sash.

Right now this is a pretty normal Pelipper set

Pelipper @ Focus Sash
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Weather Ball
• Hurricane
• Tailwind
• Wide Guard

[tough idol]

Hey Mika

[hollow shell]

Hey, wanted to ask.
What is a good build for Blazaken right now?

[tough idol]

Not seen any Blaziken builds myself. Others may be able to help you when they are awake

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/e9d03e970e5fec74 thoughts?

[molten cedar]

For some reason I wanna add scizor to my sun team even though fire is her only weakness and is literally 4x effective against her

[mighty stump]

Grass over Steel on Entei

if not Normal

Bulk on Whimsicott if Covert Cloak

Tera Steel

Or, tbh, I run Tera Rock

Adamant on Dragonite

[dapper crag]

I calced Entei iron head steel tera OHKO flutter manes outside sun

[mighty stump]

Stomping Tantrum on Dragonite

Not necessary, you want Stomping on Entei and Sacred Fire is a better button to click into Flutter Mane especially if you have Sun.

[dapper crag]

what spread you recommend for bulky whims?

[mighty stump]

244/116/148

[dapper crag]

also, I might take out walking wake for waterpon maybe

[mighty stump]

HP Def SpDef Bold

What it does

[dapper crag]

oh I like that spread

you think redirection is necessary on the team?

Ogerpon (water) was gonna be my partner for Entei originally

@mighty stump

[brazen bough]

Is there anywhere to park near the venue

Or is it nearly just a walk from hotel thing

[dapper crag]

and thanks for the suggestions!

[gentle crag]

clare.exe has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[dull ibex]

sup

[cyan smelt]

I'm seeing a fair few more people use greninja water shuriken to proc stamina now

[dapper crag]

loaded dice also?

[brazen bough]

Thats a dumb gimmick

[cyan smelt]

I assume it is loaded dice

Greninja I think also has haze to deal with dondozo

[dapper crag]

it has haze correct.

[cyan smelt]

My clodsire is better than greninja

[molten cedar]

Does anybody know what’s the best fire stab on Gouging Fire?

[dapper crag]

heat crash/flare blitz I think?

[molten cedar]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

realmushwhat has given 1 Gen Rep to clare.exe

[dapper crag]

np

[cyan smelt]

Most I've seen run heat crash

[cyan smelt]

clodsire is goated, just won me a match against someone ranked 1500

[brazen bough]

Gl to anyone attending charlotte today

[cyan smelt]

imma nickname my clodsire godsire

[crimson flume]

Does anyone have the EV Spreads of A. Galkin's team in #rental_teams?
Building my own version as well.

The website: https://victoryroadvgc.com/2024-portland/ doesn't show the EVs either.

[cyan smelt]

hmmm i can't find the evs on vgcrepository

[crimson flume]

I also am building his team myself lol. But Idk which stat to EV train.

[next stump]

EVs aren’t shared unless he shares them

so I’m guessing he did not

[crimson flume]

Guess I'll just be using the spread that most people use in pykalitics.

[next stump]

you can watch the stream and steal his HP stats at least

[brazen bough]

You ready for this tourney

[next stump]

let’s hope so hahaha

[brazen bough]

Im honestly nervous as shit

I had like 0 time to practice lol

Im mostly gonna use this place to hopefully make friends

[next stump]

that’s a good way to approach it

a lot of people here didn’t practice

[brazen bough]

Yeah

I didnt have time either

Like friday i just got home from school and left

I was gonna try to get some sets down but got to the hotel at like 11

[cyan smelt]

i'm still struggling against that farig BM stuff

[crimson flume]

Which is better for gholdengo?
Timid 108/0/4/212/4/180 or
Modest 196/0/140/52/4/116

Comparing the two highest ev spread usage for both Bo3 showdown and regular showdown

Planning to use him with scream tail

[mighty stump]

@next stump How soon does Charlotte start?

[brazen bough]

Like in a few mjns

Im sitting down rn

254 if anyone wants to meet

[nocturne holly]

gl

[nocturne holly]

gl
boutta day 2 another one

[mighty stump]

Good luck to @brazen bough @next stump @agile drift @tired atlas @rose stump at Charlotte

Soz for the ping, o7

[cyan smelt]

gl everyone

[tired atlas]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

crest_of_thunders has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[agile drift]

Thanks gamer

[gentle crag]

whatshamidt has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[brazen bough]

Thanks brochacho

[gentle crag]

generaliavgc has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[charred saddle]

tofu farming rep

[mighty stump]

ez

[polar canyon]

So how do you guys deal with chientei?

I'm stumped

[weary steeple]

PAIN. I am back to rank 1 beginner tier

Grinding to masterball is gonna be a biscuit

[polar canyon]

Rank 1 of beginner tier congrats

[weary steeple]

Yeah lol. I was master ball last season but I haven’t played since today so like idk maybe that’s why I got reset ALL the way back

[mighty stump]

Either you have a way to stop Priority Spam like Farigiraf

Or you run something like Gouging Fire for fast Breaking Swipes + pressure the Chien-Pao slot

[polar canyon]

That sounds nice

Thanks tofu

[mighty stump]

You can also run Scarfshifu for ChienTei specifically in the back after a single Breaking Swipe, they can't come close to KOing

Lots of options

Amoonguss is also good, cause with Tera Water it becomes difficult to KO

From what ChienTei has as coverage

[polar canyon]

Cant a dnite in the back damage a chipped amoonguss?

[mighty stump]

So

[brazen bough]

Man im nervous

[mighty stump]

With Dnite

If its PaoNite

You can leverage the Ghost typing more like sth Gholdengo/Flutter

which is easier

Cause you can also fish for burns with Burning Bulwark

Breaking Swipe is SE and overall Gouging Fire can really stop any momentum PaoNite wants to build

PaoTei is "weaker" and is more liable to getting Breaking Swiped

But Sacred Fire can be problem

For your side slot

So with Amoonguss, if you already got through PaoTei

They have to lock-in with something on CB Dnite

Which you can work to your advantage

e.g. preserving a ghost type or something or fish for a burn on it via Burning Bulwark

[next stump]

how was round 1

[brazen bough]

Won

[brazen bough]

How was yours

[next stump]

1-0 🙂 solid start

[brazen bough]

Great

Lets keep it going next round

[crimson flume]

Is gholdengo a better partner for flutter than chiyu?

[mighty stump]

Icy Wind Flutter can enable a Gholdengo, but no. Not in a synergistic way.

[crimson flume]

Managed to reverse engineer the EV spread and nature thanks to the numbers being shown when you inspect his team.

I just used Showdown to reverse calculate the EV spread.

These pros aren't using the spreads everyone uses.

[mighty stump]

Yeah but it's still kinda meh if you don't know what thresholds the spreads are for as they could be team specific.

[crimson flume]

I tried the rental team on my friend who is in master ball. Even if I didn't defeat him, I managed to OHKO 2 of his mons with make it rain

Despite it not being super effective.

Didn't expect that tbh.

[crimson flume]

This game is super complicated in a competitive level. I still consider myself a newbie lol.

[mighty stump]

I recommend going through the resources in the pins

Fundamentals are important

[brazen bough]

Lost game 2

Mirror match 2-0

[next stump]

its best to lose early since you’ll get easier opponents usually

[brazen bough]

He was for sure tough

Max speed bm

It was really rough

[real prairie]

Anyone seen Wolfe new video? Is Ursh really as big of a deal as he is making out? Personally it's a pain in the backside but not game breaking 🤷‍♂️

[tough idol]

Cant find the damn link for tournament pairings again lol

Ah got it lol I'm dumb

[supple ether]

I think that was his point, it's not game breaking -- the game is still playable and popular -- but it's unhealthy and sets a worrying precedent (is what I got out of it)

[polar canyon]

You really can't play defensive against that guy

[supple ether]

Yeah, all the counterplay to urshifu was basically: attack it firster and/or betterer

[polar canyon]

Also it being dlc exclusive and swsh exclusive until last month is pretty bad too

Sure I had sword dlc from the beginning

But you can really see how that sucks

90 dollar bear

[supple ether]

Sidenote, why is thundurus not super popular rn? It seems like it has amazing or neutral matchups into most the meta rn

Plus a relatively deep movepool

Kills urshi, shuts down bolt, flutter, amoongus, sets weather, neutral into ogrepon

[polar canyon]

If you see potential might as well be one of the first to use it

[supple ether]

Problem: I am very bad teambuilder

[tough idol]

It's on one of my teams for next week. I just need to choose

[supple ether]

Iron crown psyspam to open day 1

[ionic shell]

FK

im so lost in this meta

[chrome knot]

armarouge on top

[supple ether]

My money's on justin last turn I thought he was cooked fr

[chrome knot]

he played that turn beautifully

[supple ether]

We love seeing ogrepons getting ohkod

Justin for champ

[brazen bough]

Im watching paulruiz vs big slim rn

[tough idol]

How was your game 3

[brazen bough]

I won

Hope to keep the streak up

[supple ether]

You got this!

Justin who? Amirite

[brazen bough]

No

[supple ether]

[tough idol]

All the Discord guys I are there are doing OK so far

[charred saddle]

is this cybertron as the MC?

[supple ether]

I think so

[tough idol]

Yh he's casting more this year

[charred saddle]

oo nice

just opened the stream lol

[tough idol]

Another cpl of hours and I'll have my 2nd Iron Crown

[supple ether]

[supple ether]

Whatba turn 1 wowers

[brazen bough]

Fari is crazy

Idk how it isnt being used more

[charred saddle]

nice read by justin

[supple ether]

[charred saddle]

the terrain is very annoying tho

no e speed no sucker

[supple ether]

Damn

Very convincing set by justin

[tough idol]

Dillon and Yotam are both 3-0

[brazen bough]

Crazy

[next stump]

[lofty tartan]

I am Iron Crown.

[tough idol]

Hey @lofty tartan

[lofty tartan]

Hi.

[brazen bough]

Gl

Im 2-1

This match i faced a meowscarada sylveon umbreon team

[charred saddle]

what?

[polar canyon]

What does umbreon even do

The yawn snarl toxic support

[charred saddle]

raid support

[next stump]

lmao that’s a free dub

[brazen bough]

2 losses until im out of the tourney

I need to lock in

[rustic mountain]

waiting for the inevitable day 2 drop out of top 12 for the giraffe

[tough idol]

Elite 4 run number 20 or so lol 😆 Ogerpon sweep coming up

[patent marsh]

[supple ether]

JUMPLUFF?

Very interesting matchup

Damn wild spatk drop

[lofty tartan]

Jumpluff has seen play before in these Torkoal Sun teams as a TW support. It has Chlorophyll

[brazen bough]

Safe to say my run is over

2-2

[supple ether]

[novel crypt]

Question. If I make it to ultra ball tier, is it possible for me to get hit back down to great ball? (Like, in one season, not across seasons cuz ik about season resets)

Currently terrified to keep fighting. Just made it to ultra ball for the first time in my life.

[supple ether]

Nah, you cant drop out of whatever tier you make it to.

Applies to masterball tier too. Good luck!

[novel crypt]

Thanks!!!

[pearl wind]

congrats btw!

[fringe hatch]

What's the strategy to stop a strength sap pokemon? Swap into a special attacker?

It's absolutely obnoxious lol

[next stump]

5-4 can get points and 7-2 can cut, keep your head in it

[real prairie]

Raging Bolt thunder claps Urshifu cheeks, can see why it's popular lol

I'm a big fan

We might start seeing Indeedee Urshifu leads to counter Thunder clap 🤣

[brazen bough]

How much cp does locals give

And also mss

[next stump]

30 for winning a local, 50 for MSS

[brazen bough]

Dam

So none for placing?

[next stump]

well yeah but that would take a while to write out

depends on player turnout as well

[brazen bough]

K

It seems like everyone here actually has a friend group

Its hard to meet new people without invading a conversation

[tough idol]

Find Dillon LOL 😆

[brazen bough]

Idek what he looks like lol

[tough idol]

Last stream game winner facing Wolfe Rd5

[brazen bough]

I mean if dillon wants to meet we can meet

[karmic temple]

Just go up to random people, tell them they’re so pretty omg then explain you’re solo and boom

New friends

[mighty stump]

What is that live

No shot

[karmic temple]

Nice new pfp tofu

[brave dune]

https://pokepast.es/44b77d3842ebb5a1
been trying ou this team in showdown. any ideas on how to improve?

[lean creek]

You almost always do power gem over thunderbolt for things like incin on flutter mane but over all not a bad team.

[charred saddle]

dude

[grizzled bronze]

those ev investments coming in clutch lol

[charred saddle]

kyle living on the edge

twice

[grizzled bronze]

imaginary sash

[nocturne holly]

DILLON WAS ON STREAM??

[tough idol]

No

[nocturne holly]

oh

[tough idol]

But Dillon and Yotam are both 5-0

[nocturne holly]

w

[next stump]

[brazen bough]

Bro +6 registeel does 22% to dozo????

[next stump]

it ignores boosts

[brazen bough]

Oh

damnit

I forgot that was even an ability

Welp 2-3

[supple ether]

Dillon for regional champ

[nocturne holly]

ong

[brazen bough]

Real

Im still gonna go for a 6-3 split

After this im grinding locals

[nocturne holly]

what are you rn?

[real prairie]

Not to interrupt the chat but rhydon eviolite lightning rod tera grass surf good for a rain team?

Or is his SpD just too low

[karmic temple]

Yotam numba 6

[nocturne holly]

what on gods green earth

[real prairie]

Wasn't expecting a OP Pokémon crossover but happy to

[real prairie]

Want an alternative to the raichu everyone is running

[tough idol]

Dillon woop 🙌

[karmic temple]

DILLON VS ZACK

[nocturne holly]

“Everyone’s running”??

[karmic temple]

LETS GOOO

[nocturne holly]

on stream??

[tough idol]

No, just notable match mention

[karmic temple]

I don’t believe it’s gonna be streamed

[nocturne holly]

oh : (

[real prairie]

The rain teams I've been facing in the ladder, I'm starting to get the impression the EU meta I'm seeing is wildly different to what you guy face in NA

[nocturne holly]

What format?

[real prairie]

Reg F

[karmic temple]

It’s wild that people are using raichu in vgc

[real prairie]

Faced 6 of them in 20 games today

[karmic temple]

What were they trying to cook with that

There’s 47294728 better electric types

[real prairie]

Lightning rod fake out is all I'm getting from it

[kindred cypress]

When we gonna see Wolfe

[tough idol]

We don't want Wolfe

We want Dillon or Yotam

[kindred cypress]

I am a diehard and I’m proud

[nocturne holly]

that isn’t a great sample tbh

raichu is not the sauce 😔

[real prairie]

Not loads of people run rain teams tbh but the ones I've seen have the mouse 🤷‍♂️

[little plank]

Don't even really need raichu to redirect electric moves when moat rain teams sweeper now is archaludon lol

[brazen bough]

Well now im 3-3

[brazen bough]

That’s dillon?

[fallen garden]

how does Jimmy Friedle's torkoal have a nickname

or is Hot Head just what it's called somewhere

[tough idol]

Yes

Also @brazen bough

[brazen bough]

Its ok

Not the best

Still gonna go for 6-3

[tough idol]

Your 1st Regional isn't it

[brazen bough]

Then next locals im gonna either be playing arch rain or continue this team

I had no matchup practice

[brazen bough]

Ig im watching rn then

[tough idol]

Stream game is Friedle v Navarre

Hopefully the guys win they're Rd6 and get a shot at next feature game

[blissful cave]

Trading 18 shunts

Shinys

[tough idol]

#trading_sv_shiny

[limpid valley]

Can somebody recommend me a tanky nasty plot build for gholdengo? I’m specifically looking for something with sitris berry or left overs to guarantee the nasty plot since my current gholdengo is doing a little underwhelming dmg on my team, but lasting a long time

[foggy musk]

Hi guys, I’ve played singles competitively for a looong time, but keep running into walls trying to get into doubles, could anyone recommend a good starting point? Or way of learning at a faster pace? I feel like I’m banging my head into a wall over here 😭

[brazen bough]

What do people write in their notebooks

Like ive played against like 5 people writing on sometjjng

[foggy musk]

Calcs? If I had to guess. Not entirely sure

Just so they could keep there train of thought maybe? 🤷‍♂️

[real prairie]

Reminders of plays incase they come across similar teams

[pearl wind]

there are some great resources in the pins of this channel that can help you but is there anything specific that you have trouble with seeing that you already have experience with competitive pokémon (singles)?

[real prairie]

As I say this I come across someone running Rhyperior water tera lightning rod

[little plank]

I feel like rhyperior would be pretty nasty in trick room but I don't ever see it lol

[foggy musk]

Primarily stuff I don’t see too often in singles, follow me set up traps, redirection as a whole, finding the right moves, tailwind prankster mons running rampant etc.

And things like ally switch helping hand dragon cheer, stuff I have no experience against and don’t have a clue on how to play into.

[supple ether]

Leftovers is not uncommon for bulky gholdengo, but metal alloy also is an option Ive seen. But for nasty plot purposes, moderate bulk investment is all you need really

[supple ether]

A lot of it is just going to be experience. Seeing mons and moves and synergies as you play

As much as you could learn by reading theory you'll learn more by making that mistake/getting that experience (at this stage)

[foggy musk]

100% I just keep making these mistake’s that’ll cost me a match, with so many ways to play it in doubles it feels much harder to remember all the mistakes I have made, I kinda figured it was repetition. I just wanted to see if there was a way to learn more about it at this point

[supple ether]

my reccomendation might be to watch wolfevgc or cybertronvgc. Their games and play along in your head. Though I imagine aelyz will have something more profound

[foggy musk]

I actually wanted to start getting more into it Cauze of Wolfe, so I’m glad I have a good base understanding 😄

[tired sage]

metal alloy boosts damage too?

[real prairie]

I'm hosting a league with a bunch of non pros, you are welcome to join that for experience, just for fun

[foggy musk]

That’d be awesome! Would love to watch some of the matches, when would it be happening?

[real prairie]

Still getting the numbers together, aiming for 20 people and matches will be at people's convenience, ruleset will change each league, can join in #1196869047082557480

[foggy musk]

Sounds good, just let me know when you got everyone together

[real prairie]

Join there whenever you are ready so I don't forget about you when things kick off

[pearl wind]

i deleted what i was gonna say originally because in the end it comes down to experience and knowing what to expect on the team preview

redirection for example can be countered by spread moves (heat wave, make it rain, bleakwind storm, etc), taunt, counters to specific redirection users (mostly ogerpon/amoongus)

tailwind is something you have to think about when building a team. what are your plans vs tailwind, are you gonna stop tailwind from going up with potential fake out + strong attack (not a good plan imo, covert cloak alone ruins this)? are you gonna counter with your own tailwind? are you going for trick room? there are multiple options

and finding the "right" moves is also something that comes with experience and the team building process, to know what your team needs and what pokémon can do that/fill that role with what move

i think for now as you have a basic understanding of competitive pokémon, just not doubles, its probably good to look for well documented rental team, reading the notes to see what pokémon does what and just playing some games to get experience

[foggy musk]

Yeah that all makes sense, sorry to ask another question 😭 but how do you personally go about team building?

[supple ether]

Oh, yeah, something specific to double battles is spread moves have 80% base power if vs more than one opponent. So if your opponent has two pokemon, it'll do 80% damage to each. Not super relevant, but something to be aware of

[foggy musk]

Actually a really appreciate piece of info ty

[gentle crag]

SEB has given 1 Gen Rep to chef_h.

[supple ether]

keep that in mind when using damage calculators

Theybusually have a "doubles" button

[pearl wind]

hmm i usually start with one pokémon i want to use, see how i want to use it (offensively or support for example) and then see what its good at and what its bad at.
from there i look for potential partners to help it offensively or defensively.

but everyone builds their teams different, just make sure to keep the meta in mind

its easier to start with an offensive pokémon (imo) and think about what it needs to do its job, does it need tailwind or trickroom to thrive, does it need redirection to set up, defensive switch-ins for bad matchups etc

[fringe hatch]

Anyone else sick of seeing water urshafu?

[kindred cypress]

My man Wolfe on his revenge arc

Insane plays

[foggy musk]

I’ll give team building another shot, thank you for the advice much love

[gentle crag]

SEB has given 1 Gen Rep to .alyz.

[tough idol]

More importantly Dillon 6-1

[next stump]

one more

[smoky hawk]

Wolfe took a break in the hyperbolic time chamber and now he's back

[kindred cypress]

He’s been in the lab

[real prairie]

What team Wolfe running this time round?

Any sign of a new gimmick?

[bold geode]

Nah
The only weird thing is his Flutter has Calm Mind

[real prairie]

SpD build?

[kindred cypress]

Incineroar

[bold geode]

🤷‍♂️

[bold geode]

Huh

[kindred cypress]

Cause if how much he hates it

[tough idol]

@bold geode

[pearl wind]

you got this!

[bold geode]

Thx for sending image, I saw him play but having the team is nice too now

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to ictlegion

[bold geode]

I think it's nice

[tough idol]

NP Monke

[bold geode]

I also just realized that's a Ghost tera Incineroar

[supple ether]

Oh shit i just faced that on showdown

[bold geode]

DILLON IS 6-1
PUT HIM ON STREAM

[real prairie]

Grassy Glide swords dance Ogre is interesting

[supple ether]

Giraffe is a hoe

Also I think I may have finally developed a useable team after weeks in the lab (everything else was bad)

[real prairie]

Anyone seen any of Wolfe games, what is booster energy boosting? SpAtk?

And who is his trick room Mon or is he just using TR as a TW counter

[tough idol]

He used Farig to reverse TR

Boo biased feature pick

[summer shore]

@bold geode mookey

[bold geode]

@summer shore shiiro

[polar canyon]

Too real

[little plank]

Wolfe has a whole lot of priority on that team lol

[karmic temple]

Iron jugulis wat

[limpid valley]

Is there a specific EV build you recommend? (I’m a doubles player)

[dapper crag]

Hello I can use some opinion for my team?

Can anyone take a look

[tough idol]

Post it up

[dapper crag]

Ok give me a sec

Um can’t post it for some reason?

[tough idol]

You need level 6 to post images

[karmic temple]

Send the poke paste instead

[tough idol]

They can't post images

[karmic temple]

Go to Pokémon showdown, build your team then share it

The link..?

[tough idol]

Link should work I think

[karmic temple]

It will

[dapper crag]

Um ok

Ok I made my team so you want me to share the link?

[karmic temple]

Yes

[dapper crag]

Ok give me a sec

[karmic temple]

Click upload to poke paste

Then you can send the link it gives

[smoky hawk]

Must be nice to see your brother win on stream

[karmic temple]

Man I can only imagine how damaged rosemarys hair is every time I see it

[tough idol]

Shes competing at the Regional I'm in next week

[karmic temple]

The amount of bleaching she has to do for it to keep it pink

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/1ea506b522632acb

ok take a look

[supple ether]

Singles?

[dapper crag]

yea

[supple ether]

Sorry I no play

[karmic temple]

You’re wasting evs on the rotom

I think if you’re playing singles you can just run max/max speed spatk on it

[dapper crag]

Max speed and spa for rotom?

[karmic temple]

Not many of us here play singles so you might not get a ton of help

Correct

[dapper crag]

Hmmm ok

Also I could use good Pokemon against someone like ushifu

[karmic temple]

Oh wait is Brendan Aaron’s brother ?

[tough idol]

Yes

[supple ether]

OH thats him?

[little plank]

Could a swords dance setup excadril team potentially work? Something like indeedee excadril tyranitar open with excadrill and indeedee get off a swords dance swap in tyranitar and go all in with rock slides?

Just trying to think outside the box lmao

[real prairie]

Eject button negates U-turn... Learn something new everyday, just KOd my own Ursha with Discharge 😭

[karmic temple]

I’m sure you’ll have luck with it, but it’s super frail and there’s a lot of counters for it

[supple ether]

maybe. Your concern is urshifu definitely urshifu

Cant protect, indeejee lives but then its forced to follow me otherwise you lose excadrill immediately

Cant sash or bring in ttsr until its gone neither

[brazen bough]

Im never running bm and registeel on the same team ever again

[little plank]

I guess a good fourth could be sneasler then with acrobatics

Would pair well with indeedee as well

[fringe hatch]

Say I wanted to run a water based rain team. What are some throw away mons I can add to my list to throw off the trail and convince my opponents I won't use all water pokemon lol.

Like what powerhouses can I include where Thier counters are weak to water so if the opponent tries to counter them they fall into my water trap.

[little plank]

Or even iron crown I suppose

[tired sage]

jugulis going crazy

[supple ether]

252+ atk sneasler 78.4-93.1% acrobatics vs 4HP/odef urshifu

Surging strikes ohkos in return

[real prairie]

They quit turn 1, didn't even see what they were trying to do

[little plank]

So iron crown would probably be the move there then.

Although ss urshifu would still be a huge problem

[supple ether]

Expanding force crown works but also misses the kill if they tera (52.8-63%) and you need to be speed booster

[tired sage]

looks like something i would cook up

[karmic temple]

I like swagger mirror herb sneasler

[supple ether]

Sneasler does not have the bulk for that does it?

Especially since speed goes after you move so youre slow turn 1 well, as slow as 120 is

[tired sage]

unburden prankster swagger though

so that you’ll get the speed boost

[karmic temple]

Yep

[tired sage]

right away

[supple ether]

Ohhhhhh

OH YOU MEAN PARTNER SWAGGER

[karmic temple]

Yeah

[supple ether]

I thought you meant unburden prankster sneasler

[tired sage]

does sneasler even get swagger?

[supple ether]

I assumed it would

[dapper crag]

Sneasler's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Close Combat, Counter, Dig, Dire Claw, Double Hit, Facade, Fake Out, False Swipe, Feint, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Poison Jab, Poison Tail, Quick Attack, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Slash, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, U-turn, Upper Hand, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Swift, Tera Blast, Vacuum Wave, Venoshock

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Coaching, Endure, Hone Claws, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Rest, Screech, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Switcheroo, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic, Toxic Spikes

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Sneasler.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[tired sage]

it doesn’t

[supple ether]

Lmao

That could definitely be interesting

https://pokepast.es/b0429aa6a025e4b6

Any thoughts on this? It's the first team Ive ever got to work even remotely well (Ive been going like 2.0 wl ratio)

Gholdengo might be my problem child

[little plank]

Haha I got this team to master ball

[tired sage]

you want metal coat not alloy.
alloy doesn’t give any bonus

[supple ether]

[little plank]

The perish trap combo works so well

[tired sage]

alloy is only used for the evolution of duralodon.
it’s like an elemental stone

[supple ether]

I cant type 'meta-enter' anymore

This is the true cost of the dlc

[karmic temple]

Why e terrain

[vocal patio]

Can anyone make me a team with flatter mane and dnite?

“Help”

[karmic temple]

#rental_teams pretty sure there’s a few with both of them

[supple ether]

Was flash cannon, realized it wasnt doing anything. Helps the amoongus matchup and can be strong into rillaboom (regidrago is scared of him) and psyspam obv

[karmic temple]

You can taunt the amoongus and you’ve got ice spinner on urshi

[tired sage]

torn might do better imo.
it gets tailwind and bleakwind for speed drops/spread flying

[karmic temple]

Could swap to dark

[supple ether]

Taunt im iffy on with giraffe existing

[supple ether]

Over gholdengo? I was thinking similar

[tired sage]

no over thundy

[supple ether]

Thundy is a non negotiable member unfortunatelt

[karmic temple]

Also eterrain helps any future paradox Pokémon your opponent has

[supple ether]

[karmic temple]

Just don’t taunt then if you see fari

[tired sage]

also-
okidogi wouldnt need to be there with dengo.
dengo can take care of flutter without a care in the world as long as you have the right tera and bulk

[karmic temple]

U turn incin??

[supple ether]

Assault vest

[tired sage]

yeah thats a thing

[supple ether]

Ive seen the light and I aint going back

[tired sage]

stellar drago...
one energy boost and thats it xD

[supple ether]

Drop the dog for speed booster bundle maybe?

[tired sage]

actually nvm i didnt see the spread and tera blast

[tired sage]

mm yeah that would work

[supple ether]

Yeah, it's... Weird. I usually do tera steel, but I have dogi and dengo for fairys

[karmic temple]

I’d rather put the av on oki and give incin sitrus and give it more utility

[supple ether]

Very fair, but brother you have not lived until moonblast does like 18% to you

It's wild

Draco meteor who? Electroshot what?

[tired sage]

might wanna run wildbolt and rain dance (if thundy gets rain dance)

[supple ether]

i guess with bundle I do have another urshiru answer

[karmic temple]

Do we know how yotam and Dillon are doing still

[bold geode]

Yeah Dillon is our only soldier left

[karmic temple]

I forget they need 7 wins to advance?

[bold geode]

As far as I know

Yes at least 7-2

[karmic temple]

Namaste yotam

[tough idol]

Get in twitch lol

Community vote

[bold geode]

Yotam is just in it for points now

[supple ether]

Dillon dillon dillon dillon

[real prairie]

Thoughts on Shell bell raging Bolt over leftovers?

[bold geode]

I saw no vote Legion

[karmic temple]

Same

[supple ether]

My gut says no, but lemme run some calcs

[real prairie]

Where is everyone watching? I'm on Pokémon twitch account and they haven't shown a game yet 😭

So much waffling

[karmic temple]

Shell bell useless

[river flame]

not super useless

if your using a pokemon that is extremally high damage it can be useful

[karmic temple]

Nah it’s useless there’s much better items you can use

There’s a reason why no one runs it

[supple ether]

Hmmm at a glance, best case scenario you're healing ~18HP (this is assuming youre basically ohkoing people). Leftovers heals like 14

[bold geode]

Don't do that

[supple ether]

So yeah gonna say ueless

[real prairie]

Shame, thanks

[bold geode]

Shell Bell is not it in VGC

At least it's never used

[real prairie]

Yeah, using it in raids had skewed my opinion of it

[tired sage]

well in raids...
opposing pokemon end up with

[supple ether]

Shell bell could be used over lefties on a no-hp, high offense mon like bundle or flutter (except they're not bulky or slow enough for the recover to matter )

[tired sage]

more than 1K health

[real prairie]

Aguav berry maybe over leftovers?

The left overs just seems very insignificant

[supple ether]

Risky. Just use lefties or sitrus. With protect that's +12.5% every other turn

[tired sage]

lefties are good on bolt

[supple ether]

Not including grassy terrain ehich is common

[tired sage]

its bulky enough that you get enough recovery to sometimes live a hit

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1021: Raging Bolt

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/73/91/137/89/75

Total

590

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[real prairie]

Fair, thanks chaps

[tired sage]

base 125 hp is not something to laugh at
then the added base 137 spa

[real prairie]

Mine is max HP too lol

[tired sage]

:0

EVs: 188 HP / 140 Def / 20 SpA / 68 SpD / 92 Spe

[karmic temple]

Where was our community vote

[tough idol]

@bold geode they didn't do a vote. The lies are real

[supple ether]

Thundurus is slept on so hard this format, Im telling yall

[bold geode]

Fucking propaganda I swear

JOE IS RUNNING THE SAME FUCKING TEAM

[real prairie]

Likely only because it doesn't have tailwind

[timber falcon]

raging bolt ❌ raging bulk ✅

[supple ether]

Would break the meta if it had tailwind fr fr

[karmic temple]

Damn

I thought Joe had it Lmfaoo

The loud “OHHHHH” I said when the sp didn’t kill

[smoky hawk]

That's why I use adamant chien-pao

The flutter went first. Was that a speed tie?

Must have a lot of bulk

[brazen bough]

man i really wanna get better

[tough idol]

@brazen bough how did you finish

[brazen bough]

dropped 3-5

i tried going for 5-4

but unfortunately i just didnt have good matchups for the last 2

lando i, rain arch

rain in general, super hard for me to play against

especially with my specially frail mons

but i know what i did wrong now

I really wish i did have more time this week to actually test and flesh that out though

although im not too upset about it

its just a first regional but i really do want to get better

but im pokemon'd out today

that will be for another time

[tough idol]

Damn Dillon and Yotam both 6-3

[next stump]

played sableye/comfey/annihilape LOL

actually crazy team

[karmic temple]

Disgusting lmao

[brazen bough]

I knew comfey was good but i have no idea how to use it

[little plank]

Wonder how a grimmsnarl, archaludon, comfy team would fair

[real prairie]

What's a good iron hands counter for a rain team?

[kindred cypress]

No one really runs him anymore, but prob psyspam

[real prairie]

Gonna struggle to psyspam in a rain team

But appreciate the idea

[bold geode]

Meta of Charlotte looking nice

[kindred cypress]

If rain you can always bleakwind or hurricane

[kindred cypress]

Is there a top usage pic yet?

[real prairie]

Here

[chrome knot]

@next stump howd it go?

[autumn kelp]

results ?

[next stump]

6-3 top 128 🙂

[chrome knot]

oahhh congrats

[autumn kelp]

baller

[zealous badger]

Is kanto zapdos better than galarian?

[supple ether]

Kanto birds bad

Galarian zapdos I hear good things about with a choice scarf

[nocturne holly]

Nice
How many points did you get from that?

[next stump]

40 from top 128

[brazen bough]

this tourney was rough for me

i had alot of bad mus into special mons glad you found success though

[real prairie]

Just went 1v1 at end of the game my Flutter Vs their Arch full HP, thinking they have the upper hand here. They go with Steel beam... Lose half their health plus my Daz damage

I protect next turn and they went steel beam again 🤣

Surely a max SpAtk EV Arch steel beam should be doing over 60% of my speed flutter in the first place lol no idea what their spread was

[mighty stump]

Casuals or Ranked ladder?

If this isn’t not in Mball then they probably didnt EV properly

[brazen bough]

arch rain is underrated rn

[mighty stump]

Archa rain js meh

[brazen bough]

i see so many differing opins lol

it seems like people are polarized

some say its like really underrated or others say its mid or subpar

[brazen bough]

dyt arch is meh in general

[mighty stump]

Archaludon is an alright mon

but Archa rain is underpowered by virtue of having to run Pelipper

like ots

alright

[brazen bough]

peli is solid tho.

well actually spread moves are kinda dead

[mighty stump]

Relative to the power level of the rest of the format

its meh

[brazen bough]

oh well

i think i wanna take a different team comp into the locals

what do you recommend

[smoky hawk]

Brendan's iron jugulis was a surprisingly good pick today

[little plank]

Seemed like it was doing work

[real prairie]

Great ball rank 9 I believe

[real prairie]

Mine is partnered with rain dance Tornadus

[real prairie]

Q is though is it actually really good or just caught ppl off guard

[mighty stump]

Is it actually good or are people just good players and understand the appropriate times to bring their niche picks + accurately judging the metagame to make a call

People always go wild seeing a unique pick in a regional

[bold geode]

Is Archaludon good cuz how people play or is how you play good cuz Archaludon

[real prairie]

I'd classify anyone that was good enough to attend to be good players so what I'm saying isn't undermining

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/geto-suguru-suguru-geto-geto-stare-jjk-season-2-gif-7483518399201532097

[smoky hawk]

The only real criticism of IJ I can say is against prankster TW teams but if needs be, it can go tera. Probably poison

[mighty stump]

I mean, anyone who can afford it can attend a regional

Theres no previous qualification required

[bold geode]

Are you good cuz you're Tofu or are you Tofu cuz you're good?

[real prairie]

Thought you had to get X amount of points in the online tournies

[mighty stump]

Nope

[real prairie]

I stand corrected and apologise then

[mighty stump]

Online tournies are not a part of the official circuit

They tend to have their own grassroots circuits

[real prairie]

Thought some were that gave CP

[mighty stump]

While TPCI is the one that runs these huge ones

[bold geode]

Yeah
My dumbass could do a regional (not really but)

[mighty stump]

No the only online event that gives out CP is GCs

Premier Challenges and MSSs are in-person

[brazen bough]

weren't those like non existent

you have to sign up for mss' right?

[bold geode]

They need to come along with that now shit
I'm raring to go

[mighty stump]

Lol

[brazen bough]

what?

[bold geode]

I'M FINNA WIIIIN nah

Nah I'd win

[mighty stump]

ok

[real prairie]

This no longer a thing then?

[brazen bough]

fella you cant even beat me 🥱

the undisputed king of vgc

[real prairie]

Oh that's what you meant by GCs

Ignore me it's nearly 3am here 😅

[bold geode]

Yeah nvm we didn't have good luck before

[mighty stump]

Idk

From the last couple of meme teams hitting nearly 80% GXE

[brazen bough]

man who tf is pinging me that i have 8000 pings

[mighty stump]

I think I have decent options

[brazen bough]

do you recommend any team comps rn to run

i genuinely dont know what to use rn

[mighty stump]

Balance

Lol

Or some gimmick

[brazen bough]

like muk smeargle?

[bold geode]

Oh no I meant last GCs we did

Tofu don't tell me you forgot about that one GC

Where we fucking FLOPPED

[mighty stump]

idk last GC I ended up doing pretty okay I just couldn’t be bothered playing day 3

I mean

I recovered

Lol

[bold geode]

Well no the one where we were both 11-4 and then you went 4-11 on Day 3

[mighty stump]

Yes Monke

I remember

[brazen bough]

wow

[mighty stump]

I generaly don’t bother remembering bad performances

Cause it’s not funny to me

[bold geode]

Pepperidge Farms remember

[mighty stump]

and its 4-11 on day 2 then 12-3 on day 3

[bold geode]

Really? I thought you didn't keep count day 2

[mighty stump]

Thats what I mean by we recovered

it was fine on D3

[bold geode]

We came back

[brazen bough]

omg i finally found my long lost reg f team

https://pokepast.es/92b414a4d7629907 it was so peak

[bold geode]

To be fair though, now imma do so much better

[mighty stump]

Stop bringing the GC up everytime it gets brought up it annoys the shit out of me

[bold geode]

Now that I know slightly wtf I am doing

[brazen bough]

wait tofu how much cp do you have

like ik you arent in the circuit but it builds up over time

[bold geode]

God the teams I had in those GCs were such dogshit

No

[mighty stump]

I didn’t get any CP, my account is registered lol

Pretty sure I missed the threshold anywyas

[brazen bough]

o

[mighty stump]

Is this a No because you think i’m joking or do you wanna genuinely annoy me

Cause I have like, minimal patience before 12pm

[brazen bough]

wow iron jugulis is meta it made top 8 day 1

[bold geode]

That was a no to this Tofu

Welp there goes my fucking help for a team
Fuck me

Time to go build some dogshit

[brazen bough]

I thought i would like full bulk fari

but that shit sucked to play

[smoky hawk]

Do we know if Dillon got his 7th win?

[autumn kelp]

last time i check he was 6-3

[smoky hawk]

Oh nooo he was so close

[dull ibex]

vc?

[mighty stump]

iab

[dull ibex]

Based ping me whenever

[mighty stump]

based

[dull ibex]

ye

[mighty stump]

@dull ibex

Lesgeddit

[dull ibex]

thank god we are vcing early

[crimson flume]

@warped mason On Name: Iron Crown Hyper Offense rental, since you're using choice specs on chi yu. Why protect?

[warped mason]

Read the post

[crimson flume]

Ah yeah. Last sentence. Sorry.

[warped mason]

No worries

[crimson flume]

Flamethrower instead of overheat. Interesting.

[warped mason]

Mainly there if u don't want to risk the accuracy

[crimson flume]

Thanks @warped mason!

[gentle crag]

orange_uva has given 1 Gen Rep to akhil002

[brazen bough]

I think i need to play incin

[brazen bough]

Do you think basculegion is potentially a sleep pick rn

[mighty stump]

Nah

[grizzled bronze]

smeargle muk users in 1400

different users, same moves played

[mighty stump]

youll see them in 1600s too

[grizzled bronze]

damn

i just keep smeargle alive so moody wont transfer

[brazen bough]

I may be headed to orlando

[next stump]

Orlando will be another big tourney I’m guessing, it’s usually pretty cheap to fly there

[real prairie]

whos the best psyspam counter atm? Was thinking single strike Urshu but follow me is a b***h

[next stump]

and people go for disney as well

[next stump]

rillaboom helps, imprison/trick room helps, sash single strike urshifu is good

water ogerpon with tera is nice into it

[real prairie]

Can Torn set any terrains?

[grizzled bronze]

nope

[dapper crag]

Tornadus's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Astonish, Bite, Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Crunch, Facade, Fling, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Payback, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Drop, Smack Down, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, Thief, Thrash, U-turn

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Air Slash, Bleakwind Storm, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Gust, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Psychic, Round, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Uproar, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Bulk Up, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Leer, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Torment, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Tornadus.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[next stump]

torn is quite useless into psyspam

[nocturne holly]

Dillon how many points did you get from charlottte?

[next stump]

40, so I’m now at 401/500

[real prairie]

Yeah, mine is Dark Tera but without a stab its just a bit meh

[next stump]

Even if I made day 2 I could only have played 2 rounds which means maybe top 64 if I won both, which only would have been 50 points. So I’m pretty happy with 40 and getting the day off today 🙂

[brazen bough]

I may try p2 registeel

Ive done cress regi + fari regi

[next stump]

the main thing with psyspam is you usually cannot deny the trick room set up, so you need to find a way to stall out the turns

[real prairie]

Im talking Iron Crown

[next stump]

ahh I see, are you playing closed teamsheet ladder or open teamsheet

[nocturne holly]

you’re hella close
boutta win worlds 👀

[next stump]

because your approach to the matchup changes if their indeedee has trick room

[real prairie]

Im playing Ranked Battles on the reg F ladder

[brazen bough]

Dillon a lot of ppl had notes dyk what ppl write down

[real prairie]

so its closed

[next stump]

thank you ♥️ i need them to release that date for worlds ASAP so i know if I can go

[gentle crag]

mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to .begulajr.

[nocturne holly]

Worlds is in Hawaii this year right

expensive ass hotels and flights

[next stump]

I write down speed interactions (like if we have the same pokemon, who moves first. Or if we both have pokemon in similar speed tiers), what pokemon they bring to each game, what plays they make (not always, but sometimes), and how much damage certain hits do

yeah lol hawaii is not where I was hoping for but it’s at least cheaper than japan

it’s like $700 flights from Chicago and probably like $100/night for a 4 person hotel split

[nocturne holly]

how much would you say it cost for all of your regionals?

so far

[brazen bough]

I see

Well now ik to bring a notepad and headphones

[knotty mirage]

If i want to play iron crown psyspam is it better to use it under trick room or use booster energy speed ?

[nocturne holly]

iron crown is like a fast psyspammer, it definitely does not work in tr

I’ve seen booster spe and sp atk

[knotty mirage]

Idk maybe it could work under trick room especially i'm using it alongside armarouge on the team

[next stump]

For this season:

• Peoria was like $100 hotel total, and it was a 2 hour drive so maybe like $30 on gas for my portion.
• Portland was $300 flights (got a $100 voucher because my flight got cancelled lol), and like $125-150 on hotel for my split
• Charlotte was around $100 flight and $150 hotel for my split.
• Indianapolis will be very similar to Peoria in cost, maybe $150 for the weekend.
• LA which I am on the fence about going to or not would be $400 flight + $300ish in hotel costs.
• NAIC was $300 flight, probably $150-250 in hotel costs.

Add in registration fees ($70) and food, it’s probably cost me $2000 or so for 5 regionals + NAIC. It is expensive but it’s literally my only hobby so I don’t really spend much money on anything else

I think if you’re going for worlds on a budget, you can easily attend like 2 or 3 close regionals (driving distance) and just grind locals to get an invite

[brazen bough]

One of the schools i applied to is close to charlotte

[next stump]

Plus a lot of people have travel credit cards and get rewards for flying/staying in hotels, so you get reimbursed some money back

[brazen bough]

So im maybe gonna run it back next year here

[nocturne holly]

Damn

[brazen bough]

Im gonna be ready next time around

Also did you see like a ton of the regionals are sold out

[next stump]

yeah :/ they usually sell out in like 10-30 minutes after posting

and then they have a 2nd small wave later on

[bold geode]

Hey guess what

[brazen bough]

Chicken B—-

[bold geode]

Be funnier

[brazen bough]

I assumed thats what you were gonna say

[brazen bough]

Wait how tf do you still have the mochi role

[bold geode]

🤷‍♂️

[tough idol]

Lol

@brazen bough #server_badges

[bold geode]

Idek if I did that

Now I did

[brazen bough]

Ok

[nocturne holly]

are you gonna continue or

[near crag]

could breloom be viable? Scarf 252+ and tailwind is fast eough to outspeed most things

[bold geode]

Nah

[kindred cypress]

Would die to incin torn and psyspam without Tera

[near crag]

how about prankster spore? Sableye and amoonguss could work for this

[bold geode]

No

[next stump]

just play well with amoonguss and you don’t need prankster

[mighty stump]

^

[bold geode]

Quit trying to skill swap prankster

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu
I've been in this server for a year now
A year you've had to deal with my dumbass

Thoughts?

[mighty stump]

How I haven't been paid more is beyond me

[bold geode]

Lmao

ITS ONLY BEEN A YEAR, ITS BEEN ETERNITY

[molten cedar]

Tera Grass, Tera Dark, Safety Goggles, just plain old Grass/Dark types, Lum and a wasted teamslot since Sableye isn’t good at all.

The negatives outweigh positives

Just use regular Amoonguss

[bold geode]

Ok now
Sableye can be good

Encore/Disable cycle
Will O Wisp
Twave
Quash

[molten cedar]

Ok that’s actually nice

But still skill swap sableye should not be used

[bold geode]

Yeah no

Bruh

That was too close for comfort at the end with Nicholas

[karmic temple]

Gg wolfey ig

[bold geode]

Wolfe 12-0

Bro's not fuckin around

[brazen bough]

What is top cut

[placid thorn]

His last set was quite intense

[bold geode]

HEY GUYS LISTEN TO JAMES BAEK THERE
Analyze your games, see what you could've done better or anything
Such a good habit

[placid thorn]

Im actually running a very similar team just bloodmoon ursa instead of ogerpon

[grizzled bronze]

damn single more usage than rapid

[bold geode]

Yeah
Single is good rn

[grizzled bronze]

yeah it does so much damage especially into psyspam

[brazen bough]

I really dont think kingambit stats are really as accurate to how usable it is in mus

[bold geode]

Bruh this poll was set up lmao

[chrome knot]

chien pao !

[bold geode]

I swapped to that lmao

Kitty :3

[golden tulip]

hmm Tera fire would be the best offensive Tera for leavanny right

[bold geode]

[golden tulip]

what!!

but like, it would be right

[grizzled bronze]

offensive? why

tera fire tera blast?

[bold geode]

Leavanny just ass

[chrome knot]

shes a queen but she sucks anus

[golden tulip]

obv!!

that's so untrue!!

[grizzled bronze]

it's always the cute mons that sucks

[bold geode]

She's a beauty queen, but that's it

[chrome knot]

lilligant is good

[grizzled bronze]

true

[golden tulip]

she has fell stinger!!

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 542: Leavanny

Types

Bug/Grass

Abilities

Swarm, Chlorophyll, Overcoat (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/103/80/70/80/92

Total

500

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[bold geode]

Rillaboom is good

[mighty stump]

Bug/Grass

Ironically the best Tera would be rock defensively overall

[bold geode]

Rillaboom cute AF

[mighty stump]

Fell Stinger is highly inconsistent for it to be the condition if Leavanny was good or not

[golden tulip]

that's why u use trick grimsnarl (focus sash)) with final gambit veluza obviously

[brazen bough]

Bruh

Walking wake really couldve won this regional

Such a good mu into fari + bm

[bold geode]

@next stump how's Bobby doing?

[near crag]

Is single strike shifu only better now (in comparison to rapid) bc of crown?

[grizzled bronze]

probably because of iron hands dropping usage

[bold geode]

AYO JEUDY ON STREAM?

[golden tulip]

then obviously bring in leavanny on the veluza spot and parting shot w grimsnarl into torkoal and fell stinger the 1hp mon

[next stump]

single strike pressures the tera out of farigarif, matches up better in water oger, and plays better into psyspam than water

[mighty stump]

No, and no. Meta's power level is too high for mons like that

For something too convoluted

[golden tulip]

yes and yes 🤬

[bold geode]

Hey man
How Bobby

[mighty stump]

I'm not here to debate an established point, so suit yourself

[bold geode]

I know Bobby made day 2

[mighty stump]

Its also because teams tend to prep for Watershifu more

[brazen bough]

I expect walking wake to do decent next tourney

Is sv the best vgc has ever been?

[bold geode]

Quite like Walking Wake

[grizzled bronze]

smeargle in stream

[brazen bough]

If ursa fari is still relevant

[bold geode]

NOT FUCKING SMEARGLE

[grizzled bronze]

crying

[bold geode]

I hope Jeudy sweeps his ass off the board
2-0 without losing a singular mon

[grizzled bronze]

like no way smeargle made day 2

[brazen bough]

Smeargle and fari is actually pretty strong

Think about it you dont need throat spray anymore and you can just run full bulk

[bold geode]

WTF
GRASS KNOT TORNADUS

[karmic temple]

Wow smeargle

[bold geode]

Wtf is my man smoking

[grizzled bronze]

interesting team

[bold geode]

@mighty stump explain Grass Knot Tornadus
Why would it be there

[mighty stump]

Probably a way to hit Ursaluna/Urshifu

Urshifu tends to Tera Water

[bold geode]

Yeah
That just threw me off SO MUCH

[grizzled bronze]

smeargle

[bold geode]

Fuck Smeargle

Fuck that painter
Fail him
Reject him from school

Crush his dreams

[karmic temple]

Wow

[grizzled bronze]

no tera damn

[karmic temple]

What a silly game 1

[bold geode]

HUH

[grizzled bronze]

huh

[bold geode]

Such a fucking throw

[grizzled bronze]

that's so huge

[bold geode]

YES
WIPE HIM OUT JEUDY

[karmic temple]

Oh now he Tera’s

[ionic shell]

anyone here can breakdown wolfe's team?

[timber falcon]

WHERE

WHAT TIME STAMP

[grizzled bronze]

now

check stream

[timber falcon]

HAHA YES

[grizzled bronze]

lost game 1 tho

[timber falcon]

All I wanted was to see my goat make it

[near crag]

I know it sounds dumb, but, is urshifu water still worth it, still with urshifu dark having more use, plus raging bolt and ogerpon being out there in most teams?

[grizzled bronze]

yeah

[timber falcon]

yeah

[grizzled bronze]

it's still good

[little plank]

Water urshifu is disgusting lol

[timber falcon]

I have a immeasurable hate for single strike sash

[knotty mirage]

Urhsifu is still really good you can get rid of ogerpon or raging bolt by using landorus incarnate if you have it

[mighty stump]

lmao

This is the most standard BM Ursaluna game

[timber falcon]

Smeargle guy lost lol

[bold geode]

Lmao
Textbook Freddy Fazbearington

[grizzled bronze]

2-0d

[karmic temple]

Good

[timber falcon]

This is why u always gotta send smeargle first

[bold geode]

2-0 sweep right in Smeargle face
THANK GOD

[karmic temple]

Serves him right for using smesrgle

[bold geode]

He did
And ate shit still

[timber falcon]

What smeargle set was bro using

He kept sacking gholdengo

[knotty mirage]

I wonder is the time when urshifu gonna get less use is on reg where koraidon and miraidon allowed

[timber falcon]

Game one shouldve been follow me and nasty plot

[next stump]

favorite strat with bloodmoon teams

[grizzled bronze]

the standard set lol

[next stump]

bait them game 1 with your fast mode

and then just hard pivot to TR for game 2

[timber falcon]

Did it have follow me?