#competitive_discussion
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Also, isn't Torkoal kinda frail?
ooh alr thanks that makes sense
No it's extremly bulky on the physical side
clefairy is widely considered a strong competitive pokemon, doesn't change the fact that 90% of every team online uses the same 10 basic pokemon with niche picks scattered throughout
Yeah the support moves are just there to take advantage of prankster
oh alr, however I already have life orb on my landorus?
True the same 10 Pokemon are always used but that's how it works, there is a meta
Lemme get another set from my sheet
alr thanks
Metas happen in any competitive game.
yeah that's mad, 10 out of 500+ options, not really fun imo
It just makes it easier to counter them since you're going to know what mons are going to be heavily used.
Tornadus (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bleakwind Storm
- Tailwind
- Rain Dance
- Weather Ball
is there such a thing as an anti meta team
Yep
But if the enemy doesn't use meta you are most likely screwed
thanks
clam__ has given 1 Gen Rep to rayo_officialyt
Hell, my Chesnaught tends to shit on a Flutter when I Tera Steel it because it literally can't do anything against him.
And even anti meta team doesn't work if you don't use it properly
I think the evs could be improved in your team
Could you drop pokepaste again
Up here is the improved ingame team
Hydrapple (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 110 Def / 146 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Yawn
- Recover
- Fickle Beam
- Syrup Bomb
These are better evs for Hydrapple
Forgot to change Flutter's Tera but it is Fairy
@queen hull also I don't know how to feel about Chesnaught
Ooh, okay. I'll need to see if I have enough berries to bring down the def stat
That set is too offensive
He's my boy so I'm going to use him
Chesnaught @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Body Press
- Synthesis
- Wood Hammer
Most people don't expect it
Something like this might help more with the spikes utility
Is this singles or doubles
Doubles
You definitely don’t need spikes
Yeah. Spikes aren't going to do me any good
K but Belly Drum isn't either
?
Lemme find another set I have
Belly drum is infinitely better than spikes
Honestly, my Belly Drum set has been working well with Chesnaught
K
Chesnaught @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Earthquake
- Drain Punch
Can also be swapped with Covert Cloak
IDBP is better
Idk why people tend to settle with "it works" when there is definitely "better"
I haven't gotten many results with Belly Drum
Belly Drum leaves the mon too low and priority moves often can end it
Kinda like a ticking time bomb
Hmm... I'll give that a try. I didn't want to use IDBP since most versions of the set really only had that be Chesnaught's only attacking move
I think people get stuck in the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mindset when they see some success
What's IDBD
Iron defense body press
Oh yeah I agree it's better
That's the payoff though, higher consistency just gotta play around it
Should swap Drain Punch maybe for Wood Hammer or Trailblaze
Seed Bomb would probably be a better choice
I just put it back in national dex because there was too much toxic
No recoil to hurt itself and higher BP than Trailblaze
what is it calced for

Make it bulky while doing good damage in rain
That's what my old notes say
Damn, I'm gonna need to farm mochi for my Naught. I don't have any Def or HP mochi.
Calcs should be really specific instead of "make it bulky"
You wanna survive certain hits and pick up certain KOs
yeah i dont get what the getting bulky is for
yeah this is what i mean
My old notes aren't precise
Now I do calcs but back then I didn't
Either you're hitting a damage threshold you're satisfied with or you're splitting damage for no reason,
or you have exact bulk for a reason or might as well have no bulk
So you can't recommend a spread if you can't explain what it does, personally.
im asking since i dont really remembering seeing that set
U suck
Me on showdown putting the sliders on random bulk before I test it 🤭
It's a self made set

mods help me, im being harrassed by a staff /j
jokes aside yeah
Most of the sets in my sheet are self made from some inspiration I found when playing ladder
No one can help you here
This is not a safe space

Hope you have your focus sashes
YOU ARE ALONE
Cause I got multi-hit moves and theyre useless
im sturdy tho, and i can use burning bulwark
Have your focus sash cuz I'm about to give that focus LASH
NO 
by chance too im max max hp def and like rocky helmet
I'd still go with sets that are specific to your needs instead of home brews that can't be explained. Some of the normal Lando spreads are pretty effective.
I also ignore stat changes
Oh wait I found some more notes
I just say "nu uh"
Is it Lando-I or Lando-T @charred saddle ?
yeah, i just wanna see if its any relevant
Hidden Ability: NUH UH
Lando-I more like Lando-Why
Max max lando go brrrr
oh nono, its not for my team, im seeing if theres a new spread i should be aware of
These notes are impossible to read 
like ill be calcing just enough to ohko lando, and then suddenly bulky lando appears 
I didn't check it fully. But I do know Lando-I wants max speed for sure. Looking at the bulk, the 132/4/4 isn't doing much.
Yep
mhm
I cannot read these notes, they are on my horrible arabic handwriting
Give me like 20 mins to read this
ok but can you not read
Yes
i have nice handwriting too
Cheater.
SEE
im illterate
TOXIC TOFU
specs?
yep
252 specs?
But not Tera Fairy
Tera Fairy is still a guaranteed KO
You're better off just clicking Poison Tera, Sludge Bomb, and KO'ing the Flutter Mane
252+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus in Grassy Terrain: 72-85 (43.9 - 51.8%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO
Grassy Glide doesn't even KO Lando without the bulk.
I mean it takes no 3HKO
yeah no reason not to poison tera, especially to ensure the ko on flutter
Another extra hit
We have failed to language
If you Poison Tera there, you resist the Grass moves and get a STAB on Sludge Bomb
The Urshifu one is relevant if its Adamant Scarfshifu
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Poison Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom: 211-250 (101.9 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It is
I don't have any offensive calcs in my notes from what I can tell
Let me calc quick
0+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 132 HP / 4 Def Landorus on a critical hit: 198-240 (109.3 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Uhhh I think your calc is very wrong here.
Its a post tera calc
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera Poison Landorus on a critical hit: 117-138 (71.3 - 84.1%) -- approx. 2HKO
Post Tera with zero bulk.
Which Tera? Urshifu or Lando?
Now i'm confused
252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 132 HP / 4 Def Landorus on a critical hit: 312-372 (172.3 - 205.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO****
Not even close.
Oops, confused it with Tornadus
I was reading the notes for Tornadus 
The 2 previous calcs were Landorous
It's the Urshifu one I was reading Tornadus for
:/
With Raging Bolt being weak to Lando-I as a MU in general, id rather just have a scout turn and see
I think your use of "tanks" misplaced.
Tanking a move is basically taking it and survivng. Lando survives Draco Meteor from a 100 Sp Attack Raging Bolt without bulk.
and then be able to OHKO with Sludge Bomb post Tera
100 sp Atk is pretty common.
But its rare to see 244 Modest imo
Not a bad threshold
But like
Just odd overall imo
244 modest no bulk is like 43.8 chance to OHKO
Since
You take Draco
Potentially might not kill if it Teras
and you die to L-Orb recoil
Yep but this calcs show the bulk of this thing
Testing it without bulk it still tanks the move.
The bulk doesn't do anything different
Like you're still faster than Raging Bolt and Sludge Bomb KOs if Tera Fairy - if no Tera then EP KOs
Does give 3HKO to Rilaboom Grasy Glide and Flutter mane Moonblast needs bulk
Why do you need a 3HKO from Grassy Glide whne you OHKO the Rilla?
You tera Poison in front off the Flutter Mane that's faster and OHKO it with Sludge Bomb
Well you pray if it doesnt tera
What if you can't tera?
If you can';t tera, sounds like a piloting issue. Imo those wincons and such already would want to be predetermined and accounted for
But like... making a 2HKO into a 3HKO when you're faster and more offensively positioned seems wildly incorrect.
I think this is still enough to justify running
Suit yourself
I dress myself all the time
🐒
I dress myself and my kid. Get on my level.
Nah
I don't wanna be a grown up
It happens whether you want it to or not xD
Unless you’re a Sasquatch, if you’re a Sasquatch the rules are different
tofu
since we were just talking about Howl gouging for nite LO, what about coaching Hitmontop for it
- intim + FO
How do I teach my landorus sandsear storm in sv?
- As Landorus by level up (80)
Level 80
https://pokepast.es/8e1543c3b2d80d00 is this a good iron boulder team? the ev spreads are subject to change
Do you want tips just Iroun Bould or whole team?
id say whole team
Doubles or singles?
def doubles
sand does spdef
Don’t use sand
yeah i wasnt
Oooops forgot that
Why are you running Tera Stellar chien Pao?
because people say it good
Sadly not a samsquantch. Just a normal dude. 
Stellar doesn't do anything about that
i just want chien pao to murder with stellar icicle crash
That could be done with Ice Tera
Hippowdown exists and is also a sand setter. Just a more passive set with Yawn pressure and stuff. But it's seen play in Gen 9 Doubles.
Which is more reliable as it makes your defenses better
Don’t use Ice Tera either
And gives you the boost multiple times
Usually Chien-pao isn’t the main offensive force on a team
Tera Ghost is better though
And wants boosts on both of its stabs
So stellar or ghost are your two best options
bro what didn’t even know that thing was in the game
🤷
also how you’ve been Mika
W
Hope she enjoys
She got a giant plush Squirtle last night and a little Squirtle. She's enjoying.
lmao I bet
I recommend this build for Entei
Entei @ Choice Band
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Def / 4 SpD / 100 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Stomping Tantrum
- Extreme Speed
- Flare Blitz
Why Band?
Why Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz?
And why two fire moves
Max attack and choice band ensure a lot of damage
He has Chien Pao though
lorb is better on entei
^^
True
Dude Fire naturally resists Fairy.
Entei @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Def / 4 SpD / 100 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Stomping Tantrum
- Extreme Speed
- Protect
Kid named Choice Specs Shadow Ball
You can Tera Normal if you expect the Shadow Ball. If it's Specs and locked into Fairy moves and you switch into it, though, you have the pressure
Wouldn't Choice Specs for Flutter Mane be better?
Rather not waste my tera to help check the most common VGC mon atm tho

I’ve been using AV with Entei and it’s been putting in serious work
That’s probably one of the best reasons to use your Tera tho…
"Wasting" tera to check one of the most offensive mons the format?
lmao
Or… and this is just an idea
All those people who Tera Grass in front of Urshifu have it wrong, man.
I save my tera for one of my sweepers and just run AV
Defensive teras are valuable as well.
I know.
And anyways, going for Tera Normal just means I lose my fairy resist anyway
Using Tera to check a major offensive threat is hardly a waste.
Weird evs for Flutter mane too
You're talking about Specs on Flutter...
Then lets say it’s booster energy SpA
Flutter Mane @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 28 HP / 212 Def / 132 SpA / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Icy Wind
And you just swapped into a shadow ball that chunked 50% of your HP
i do see some power gem specs mane lately tho, for entei and incin
so even more reason to tera
With AV entei can live that and then Sacred Fire back
You can make up any scenario to support whatever point you're making because nothing is actually taking place.
But if you swap into a booster Flutter and they call your swap, that's a thing that happens.
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 140 Def / 76 SpD / 36 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Parting Shot
- Knock Off
It’s called getting outplayed
And this whole conversation is talking about things in a vacuum. People still don't get what that tmeans.
AV is fine, I just found it severely underwhelming in what I actually want it to do
And for the purposes of this guy’s team, I’d say he should stick with Flutter Mane
If you’re running Entei without Chien Pao, then sure, go LO or band
But since he’s already getting additional damage there’s not much of a need
Plus it helps with getting your Snarls off
It seems I missed the MSS registration for Portland. It didn't say on the website what the cut off was and there was also nowhere to register on the site. Apparently it was a QR code we were supposed to scan at the event to sign up. But the website also didn't give any instructions about the QR code at the event and I never even saw it myself.
Kinda irritated rn
I mean Pikalytics should be taken with a grain of salt because of where the information is sourcing from - you can also change that source and it gives you different results.
VGC 2024 Reg F and Reg F BO3 show different items for Entei. Switch data hasn't been populated yet, and this completely disreegards any official tournament placements.
And most of the Enteis I've seen with Chien-Pao are running either Band or LOrb for the damage.
Iron Boulder needs Redirection AND speed control if it wants to set up
I used it for a while and it desperately needs both
Plus, I use LO Entei with Pao, its still underwhelming with Vest especially on a non-full investment
what do you think about this tofu?
- intim and FO
If its really an issue, and you really care about Flutter Mane, I wouldnt even be running Snarl
I'd just click Iron Head and leave it at that
Raises the target's Attack and Defense by 1 stage. Fails if there is no ally adjacent to the user.
Fighting
Status
0
—
10 (16)
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Yeah I’m talking about Snarl for other special attackers
I've been interested in tinkering with Coaching but I hate taking turns off.
No

Opportunity cost is a real, commonly overlooked thing
yeah but then its quite the same situation with Howl no
Cause this team just doesn't look like it wants to try and slowplay if you're trying to Iron Boulder
Gotta run that Prankster Riolu
Oh yes lemme just Dynamax real quick
Tofu you're gonna brew some Boulder with me.
I love that stupid bull.
I already did
But not with me!
Its PaoTei with Boulder Clef and Torn
I have classic bangers like "oops all priority" and "funny button"
mm
Honestly that priority team started as a joke and ended looking decent.
Hard for him to stick around if he gets slapped everytime he looks at things goofy-like.
Dark moves for pre-tera and steel moves for post-tera
is the ev spread for chi yu 252 spa and 252 speed?
i think so yeah, for sash i think
kk
is it also the same for wake?
No Wake likes to run life orb so usually he is bulkier
idk wake sets
Let me get one
Okay. My ingame double team is all ready. Now I just want to test it out
i remember seeing some sets have some speed to outspeed some important mons, then most on SP atk
then do get like mystic water, hydro steam stuff
wait so for vgc do I have to build multiple of the same pokemon or something if im running 3-4 different teams?
if possible
since then you wouldnt have to change the EV each set
how do i even ev train? it doesnt tell me the exact evs so idk how to get specific
Walking Wake @ Life Orb
Level: 50
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 116 HP / 28 Def / 164 SpA / 4 SpD / 196 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Fire
Timid Nature
- Hydro Steam
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Protect
theres no rule saying u cant, but its annoying to change EV between sets
Use feathers to see how to check exact evs
WW is mainly a sun mon
oh alr bet
can do use Vitamins/ mochi --> both gives out 10 and feathers gives 1
also iron bundle is 252 252 right
but i already half trained some of them
Yes
is there no way to individually check
idk, if its a hassle to check each of them, id rather like clear out the whole EV using berries / fresh start mochi
Use feathers to do math, for example if you can apply 152 feathers to 1 stat it means you have 100 points in that stat
thats only appliable if its hasnt reached 510 EV.
Yeah of course but it is really the only way to do that
Or just calculate each knock down
Oh I forgot lol
You could also just put in the pokemon's stats to Showdown's teambuilder and use the sliders till you get the exact stat of your mon
why didnt they just do it properly 🤦♂️ million dollar company messing us up all the time
thats reverse engineer.
now this is smart
Like if you want 20 evs in HP use power item and kncok down 2 Chanseys
just remember do make it hyper trained to make it easier to calc
and lvl 100 for easier calc too
alr
Or 0 Iv
hence why i said, its annoying to do, thats why you better just go reset the EV with berries or mochi
yeah but u cant go from 21 IV to 0
You do need to have at lv100 anyway to even hypertrain it so...
only up.
@shell sandal can I see your team? A pokepaste for example
no, u can hypertrain it in lvl 50 iirc
When you didn't make it to day 2 and missed the side tournament registration, there ain't much to do
What does yh mean
yes
Rip topaz
K can I see it?
Goddamn it. I need 5 more elec shards for my Vika
https://pokepast.es/4ff6b45a8fc8f5b5
last pokemon is a dragonite
im not doing a specific team tho, im building a ton of pokemon rn so I can have free picks when I start doing vgc in game instead of on showdown
FEZANDIPITI LETS GOOO
Sure, I can get 10s of every other shard in Indigo Disk but not Elec. So fun
Why are you using wellspring for set up?
no reason other than wellspring is my favorite new mon
Well Spring is a better redirecter
whats the lando calced for
it has follow me
Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Atk / 84 Def / 36 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Follow Me
- Spiky Shield
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
i could run this
It's bulkier while still having decent attack
cough cough i got a LOT of it 
just dm me, but i cant do the trade today, prob tomorrow
alr bet
And to compliment Ogerpon
We can change Chi-Yu's set
Chi-Yu @ Life Orb
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 92 SpA / 4 SpD / 156 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
This uses Nasty Plot so while Ogerpon uses Follow me you can set up Nasty Plot
alr i just added nasty plot
ive been playing vgc for 3 days now so im kinda bad rn
my elo is like horrible compared to my singles one
Don't worry everybody starts somewhere
And having a team like that as a begginer is amazing
well its just because I watch alot of wolfe even when I was a singles player
i love singles so much but I got violet a week ago and I want to play pokemon the right way
Oops forgot that
dude thing is, usually chiyu wants ghost tera, especially paired with flutter
oh no I run ghost tera for a good reason, im running sash so I ghost tera to suprise fake out users
chi flutter pressure, knowing u have ghost tera means u cant FO it
basically IH is there staring at a wall
Hmm. My Flutter has both Dazzling and Moonblast but I feel like I should switch one out for Mystical Fire so that it has some way of dealing with a Steel type.
i love to spread stuff, ferzandipiti with icy wind, flutter with dg
mystical fire no stab is kinda off sometimes, hard to calc for, but you can use it especially when u are going for specs
There is very little support on team
I’m currently playing scarlet and need to complete some group bbq’s if anyone could Invite me to their union I would appreciate it
Only thing is Follow Me Ogerpon and Intimadate Landorous
I know it's the common spread but having two fairy moves feels limiting
yea im kinda garbage at teambuilding. I think this team got me to 1300 elo simply because everyone else is hot trash
Moonblast is very strong a single damage move while Dazzling Gleam helps finish off opponents
It is the regular set
I think something like Thundurus would be excellent on the team
And Fezendapiti feels lackluster
Plus some of my Pokemon are weak on the sp.def side so having a fast mon with a way to reduce common sp.attackers' damage feels like it'll work
As Flutter Mane basically does it's job but better
I guess I'm staying to watch the Day 2 in person to show my local friend support. His name is Gary Qian
no? fezan with toxic spread + icy wind is actually very annoying
- speed, then toxic chance, while its a chance its more useful than its other stuff
FM has those too, Thundurus could replace Fezan
not saying its good, its ass
Toxic chance is not reliable
.
As you are going to die in 1-2 turns
im saying for fezan, running icy wind is fine
I'm saying that replacing it might be the best call
Would anybody be interested in my 6-3 Portland team being on #rental_teams ?
i always take a look at rentals anyway
@shell sandal let's get to the Dragonite
alr bet
its multiscale, aerial ace, extreme speed, aqua jet, roost
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Inner Focus / Multiscale
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Aerial Ace
- Extreme Speed
- Stomping Tantrum
would always want inner focus for FO
dont see any reason for Multiscale if ur banded, in OTS situation knowing ur multiscale and banded is free FO and no more scale
Pretty solid 1st season run so far 
Yep that's what I put but Multiscale is still reliable so I'm giving them the option
@shell sandal also I think we could replace Fezan with Thundurus
we could.... but...
fezandipiti is the tuffest mon that has been released in this gen
What's "tuffest"?
best design, coolest
K we can run 1 niche mon
when reg G comes out i think i might try a raichu team
Fezandipiti (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Toxic Chain
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 248 HP / 108 SpA / 152 Spe
Timid Nature
- Icy Wind
- Sludge Bomb
- Roost
- U-turn
hmmm I think icy wind > heat wave on dipiti
because speed contrl
True
i like to pair dipiti with flutter mane and spam icy wind + dazzling gleam
This is mainly a bulky pivot
Wow both shifus are top 12
what is it calced for?
To switch mons safely in with u-turn
Build from friend
Ya'll are gonna miss out if you don't watch Day 2 Portland
which one is rapid? the 37?
Tofu who are you rooting for
another WW IL grind brother
Rapid is probably 37%
I have a front row seat at the event
First match hasn't started yet
Wave to the camera
Yep
Ew

I thought he wasn’t doing day 2
Still had decent results in DUU
Flight got cancelled
ooh right dillon was there
Oh shit
Not amazing but decent
Dillon winning regional W
Oh seriously? I need to meet up with Dillon
@next stump Where you at? I'm in Portland
LETS GOOOO
thats a spread for lvl100, not lvl50
Slay
Im wondering about Gholdengo
@shell sandal new pokepaste?
Wonder where'd it go
Again my friends spread
Dillon’s gonna fucking pop off
alr im sending
Damn it he’s not on stream
k
im just getting my flutter mane rn
I’m rooting for joe over Alex
fr same
lmao I read your pronouns
“Dumb bitch”
shut the fuck up dumb bitch
WOW
I’m not him
I’m dumb bitch
Ya anytime I’m at a party and we have to label our cups it’s what I put
PaoTeiNite
Who said PaoTeiNite
Joe never conforms to the new DLCs. He's using Reg E in Reg F. He was also using Reg D during Reg E
AV Nite being back is also pretty nice

Cause comfort is also important too, if you're running something you're familiar while people are caught up with new toys, you can eke out some good fights
Anytime they said Entei on stream my dog kept popping his head up 😭 bro they aren’t talking to you
LMAO send pic now
chientei
paotei
im comfortable saying chientei
It’s PaoTei


He sleep comfortable
😮💨
why the compress
you should get another dog and name it chien pao
and then they combine and become paotei
ChiEnIte
DaoTei 
I do not have the time patience or money for another animal lmao
but that’s just ChieNite
DragonTeiPao
Especially since I’m trying to go to more regionals
Chi-En-Nite
NaoDeiEite
but think about how you would sweep randoms
Have they got to top cut yet?
no
Or just started for the day
Set 1
Just started
Cheers Sour. I'm at work so will only be checking in sporadically
w Tera
I have never had Chien-Pao avoid a Burn from SF
That burn was clutch
it’s 50% right
It’s because they’re cheating
whats SF
that’s true
Try that next time !!
He probably wanted that to happen or just didn’t care
oh sacred fire
Sacred fire
Sacred fire
right I forgor
nono i was thinking shadow fiend somehow 
anyone who beats me is cheating
Sark Foid
can I post a pokepasta here?
Yea
Yes
Dark/Steel
Defiant, Supreme Overlord, Pressure (Hidden)
100/135/120/60/85/50
550
JoeU locking in those moves like he got a flight to catch
Dillon? Is that you?
He just like me fr
Electric/Dragon
Protosynthesis
125/73/91/137/89/75
590
wait so 6x31 is bad for pvp right since u need 0 atk for special attackers
Not always necessary, it’s optimized but foul play and confusion is nowhere right now
so i can cap the atk on my iron bundle to cure my ocd?
That's a new one
lol
2 CLUTCH
But yeah, its fine
You could ig
-4 Bolt
Joe might win
probably still ohkos smeargle
In general should I put speed IVs on a slow Pokémon like Swalot?
No Horn Leech?
W live
Oh
Ghost/Fairy
Protosynthesis
55/55/55/135/135/135
570
Whew
what tera type should I have on flutter
Fairy for offense water/grass for defense
Crit mattered smh
Sucker punch over ice spinner made sense. But the optimal play would have been protecting chien-pao
Either way it was Alex's game at that point
Sucker was the play 100%
I mean that would have just gone forward to the same board state so its a bit redundant
Ogerpon couldnt break Bolt and having Chien Pao on the field is worse for Alex than valuable for the Bolt, so might as well dish out Damage on Ogerpon and punish it for being offensive
And if it doesnt die
Thats just more turns
That does so much to shifu even without SoR
HUGE ESPEED
I dodged so many sucker punches and thunderclaps yesterday using E-speed
It's so good
Lmao it’s looking grim for joe
Pog
damn dnite lives
It usually does
mhm
*PaoTeiNite
If Dillon and Gary play each other I'm going to be conflicted
Dillon all da way
Gary is my personal friend irl though
Dillon could be the same if he wanted to be but he just ignores my requests to meet up lmao
Dillon ignores a lot of people don't worry
indo Regionals when 
Us: banned from the circuit
They fear us

Tbf there’s a lot on your mind when you’re competing you know that
I'm in a position where I have to keep up with the meta, and also perform well so my words have weight, and people sometimes just think i'm being a shitter 🤷♂️
Which, I am, but don't point it out
Like damn
Gk sehat bang
Makan sayur
Me: havent touched a single green today
kata mama, pake nasi biar sehat
Ini masa depan kedokteran kita di Indonesia
HAHAHAHAH
Gw bikin appointment terus langsung "pake nasi bang lebih sehat"
Stares at my advanced heart disease

google translate coming in clutch rn
Lmao
Indonesian is actually really easy to learn
Since words are directly translateable and also the grammar is just swapped
It's the slang that fking sucks
Everyone here abbreviates everything
Cause we're LAZY
Copy paste? copas
PaoTeiNite lebih baik dari PaoNiteTei 😎
“That’s great bro”
“It’s ok for you too”
“Pol”
Lmao
wrong translation
mantab pol
Ain't no way he's speaking Spanish because I'm close to fluent. Not sure what language that is
Indonesian
Lmao
Lol ok
I have no idea what other languages exist in LATAM
Hey learning languages is hard
Sometimes I still get whiplash that Spain and Mexico both speak, Spanish
Cause I just think oh yeah
"Mexican"
Spanish?
Spanish
Something something
Bilingual and a half
There's minor dialect differences but yeah
Dillon and Gary are both 10/3!
W Dillon
damn nice one
Damn Dillion going up against giovanni
dillon against Giovanni
We want the Dillon stream
frfr
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regfbo3-2029441985-cbvhll8cdgxqsr0qhqnlpztiayiw1u4pw i love open team sheet
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between ObiWonKaBlowMe and DJCornyGaming! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg F (Bo3); Date: Jan 7, 2024
Was this a game voted on? I'm sure these guys are wonderful people but there's no way this was requested
Dillon or Gary's game would've been nice
hmm the bug tera
I think Navjit is fairly popular on Twitter
Idk he pops up every now and again on my feed
Navjit popularised Scream Tail for a bit
Was also a cause of great stress for me
Since now it looked like I ripped off him
when I featured my teams
Wtf was that play
That was terrible 😭
Holy shit. My Elec Tera'd Vika managed to survive with only 3 hp left after getting hit by a Ivy Cudgel from a Tera'd Hearthflame Oger. Though they did Superpower my Incin before hand.
Ya know what I'll do for my next team? I'll have priority on everything. Tclap, Spunch, e-speed, aqua jet, grassy slide, fake out, etc
damn, zhezhang got slapped hard game 1
The Bug Tera, gross
Gg navjit
what is registeel+rilla
Steel
Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)
80/75/150/75/150/50
580
Registeel is that Amnesia/Iron Defense/Body Press/Heavy Slam shid
Danm, with follow me supporting registeel its basically immortal
Also which move should i replace?
@next stump
Maybe earth power. Or bloodmoon
Both are valuable
Still working out some kinks but basically the same idea
Hypervoice kinda does their same.job tho, especially since setup
10-4 lost to Gio on double protect
:c
@kindred cypress Again, you’re not following the format + the documents are non-accessible without login
Missing Title, Paste, Format
is he still in
No
10-4 is out
: (
That’s actually really good on darkshifu
THAT MAKES SO MUCH FUCKING SENSE
insane strat
Scarf stellar tera blast. Kills anything that has used tera
Signature ignores stat drops too
Even though youre choice locked
For non choice it also makes sense
Sure
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 116 HP / 196 Def Flutter Mane: 174-205 (62.1 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's a pretty bulky Mane
Try helping hand
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Helping Hand Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 116 HP / 196 Def Flutter Mane: 260-307 (92.8 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
I see a lot of 68/68 and 60/60 too
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 68 HP / 68 Def Flutter Mane on a critical hit: 392-462 (146.2 - 172.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Wait no not Wicked Blow
yeah HH
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 68 HP / 68 Def Flutter Mane: 209-246 (77.9 - 91.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
go 236/116
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Helping Hand Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 236 HP / 116 Def Tera Fairy Flutter Mane: 300-356 (187.5 - 222.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Wait sorry clicked tera
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Helping Hand Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 236 HP / 116 Def Flutter Mane: 150-178 (93.7 - 111.2%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Also made sure I wasn't accidentally leaving leveel 100 on
Thats kinda huge
Regardless of what Flutter clicks
you basically win
I mean I'm a fan here.
https://pokepast.es/fd113ac96b7b6b4c is there anything that can be approved thats obvious?
252+ Atk Tera Stellar Urshifu Tera Blast (100 BP) vs. 116 HP / 196 Def Flutter Mane: 91-108 (62.7 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That's the corrected calc against 116/196
Any iron crowns at Portland so far?
Iron Crown has had some usage there - not a whole lot.
I'm playing a Crown team on the side
I'm climbing with hyper offense psy spam and it feels effortless
Although tera blast does not make contact. It does not go through protect
Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage. Power is multiplied by 1.5 during Gravity's effect.
Grass
Physical
80
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
The user swaps all its stat stage changes with the target.
Psychic
Status
0
—
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Bypasses substitute.
Does not make contact.
Tragic
He just forfeits lol
Why didn’t flutter shadow ball the indeedee?
normal typing(?) 
????
It's a normal type
he did like a very nice play, tera pon, put in pao. but then crit 
thats so hard damn
Thoughts on carbink body press over registeel? The rock typing is not ideal, but the boost in defense and access to trick room seems very valuable
Rock/Fairy
Clear Body, Sturdy (Hidden)
50/50/150/50/150/50
500
you’re telling me this little munchkin has 150 def and sp def?
Lmao yuh it's really quite bulky
My boy Gary is also out. So sad
Steel
Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)
80/75/150/75/150/50
580
Dillon placed 14th
but also 
Gj dillon
Think it depends on number of entrants
546 entered
+80CP & $750
That’s great
I imagine the money cancels out with flights and hotels and stuff tho right
how hard was it?
If I make top 200 in 3 weeks I'll be happy lol
gl
i just started the game and im going to charlotte in 2 weeks
I didn't know people outside of top 8 get money
Also GL
probably not the best idea
Think it's 750 down to 16th @smoky hawk
u too
Nah, go for it. People have won their first regional
Gotta start somewhere, if you can afford to do it, why not
I'm a newer player im probably not gonna win haha

My 2nd tournament will be more fun. Signing up for EUIC
gl man
I have 2 weeks until I can register my team for Liverpool. Have a near complete idea 💡 lol 😆
I have a week before im ultimately forced into being locked in
Gl
You will need it
I would participate in tournaments but im too broke to travel and in my country they dont host the tournaments here 🥲
Nearest MSS for me is 5 hours xD
Gotta travel Maine to Boston for Locals lmfao
im guessing for hard switches into shifu
I ran chesto rest dozo in reg c or d
It was a certified boss monster
Any ways to fit Chien-Pao here ?
Lmao wbt regionals?
I mean
Thinking of replacing Raging Bolt
There's no Regionals in New England lmfao
you’re in New England
Yes.
what the fuck
damn so it even worse for you
I’m in ny
you’re like in the upper corner lmao
Dude NY has Locals
Which part of NY?
Cause there's a lot of action in that whole area. You should be able to find something - but 2 hours is pretty agreeable for a tournament that awards CP
I'll travel 2 hours if Maine gets more MSS and PC shots
is anyone else headed to charlotte after next week
Southern NY
I was, but the end of our year was very bad so I ended up canceling my Registration
ah that sucks to hear man
hope it gets better for you
Is Tera Stellar or Ghost better for Chien Pao?
I'm making a big career shift which will hopefully enable me to travel more for VGC so that's a thing 🤷
And is jolly or adamant nature better
What are you shifting to?
wish the best for you!
also sorry if im replying too much
Currently taking a bunch of certifications courses for cybersecurity. Trying to get as much education under my belt before I go for it
That sounds great
oh im planning to major that in college
what do you do in cyber security
its ultimately security
lol
Travel is expensive. So I need some stable finances under me before I should try to get more serious about it. I dove into it headfirst in my first year and I needed a better foothold
on computers
cybersecurity has grown alot over the years especially since how powerful technology is becoming
It really depends on what type of cybersecurity personnel you are.
oh yeah there is like being an analyst and stuff like that
Yeah for sure
Companies are operating digitally more and more and they need systems in place that keep those assets secure
mhm
So it's varied, but like Generalia said, it's security on computers xD
It's highly employable and has a really competitive salary so it's a good fit if I need financial stability and enjoy the work. 🤷
And we really need financial stability after the end of this year
good luck
fr wish the best on you
Gonna approach 2025 VGC season with a little more ammunition so I can actually compete and not get locked out by cost or availability 
we should run some sets sometime it would be fun
i plan on growing even when i get into college haha
💀
I forgot how badly Kingambit gets walled by Chesnaught. Even the Defiant ones.
Chuppa playing out of his mind rn
too bad no one runs chesnaught
Poison jab?
Even if it had that, mine has Steel Tera. My opponent managed to get his to +6 atk but it got burned and then he let my Naught get 3 IDs off.
Is it top 8 now? Wondering if I'll get home in time to catch any games
Yeah, Im unsure how deep into top 8 we are but currently postgame interview
I might see the finals then lol 😆
one bp should ohko lol
but thats a good place to set up
something that can’t do shit to you
I left it alive so that it could struggle against my Naught while I dealt with the other mons. A Latias who kinda just tickled my Chesnaught with an Ice Beam, an Incine, and a Rillaboom.
They ended up using their Tera on that Kingambit and it was Dragon, interestingly enough.
That’s the way you should’ve taken care of it
ignore it cuz it can’t do shit
Guys. I'm true to my name, last reg and this one too:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2029540836
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between T0paz777 and Starcode66! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg F; Date: Jan 7, 2024
that’s awesome to hear, let me know what events you’re going to when that time comes and we can make some plans
Hi guys, what do you think about this ranked team ? https://pokepast.es/460b76b9976dd821
How y'all doing
I'm good now I'm home from work
Omg that shit lol
Shiny sandygast solo
Fuck that's bad
Anton gg
Damn lol
Yeah that was wild, anton made it look free
@next stump CONGRATSSS SO PROUD OF YOU !!!!!
I've been trying to tell you I'm at the Portland event
And good job, btw
I’m sorry it’s been a headache of a weekend with my flight being cancelled