#competitive_discussion

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bold geode
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6.28% if you account all

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Does NO ONE appreciate the monkey?

strange fjord
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oop, just realized the new pokemon images aren't up to date Psweatduck

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ill fix it soon-ish

forest arrow
bold geode
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As I do you

gentle notch
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Is Pikalytics updating anytime soon or is there a different site I can use for the time being

strange fjord
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munchstats

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idk how often pikalytics updates, but munchstats updates every month.

next stump
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calcing offensively against incin is such a headache hahaha, there are a million spreads

strange fjord
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fr

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its it an attacking flare blitz or supporting snarl

bold geode
strange fjord
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or both

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honestly, annihilape has such a cool design

cyan smelt
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bring annihilape back

gentle notch
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
cyan smelt
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i've found if i use kingambit right it's very powerful

bold geode
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It is
But Annihilape like
Checks Incineroar like a motherfucker

molten oasis
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Wow flutter and incin at the top what a surprise

cyan smelt
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but annihilape has to watch out for flutter

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and torn

bold geode
autumn vault
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opponent has a long way to learn type matchups

cyan smelt
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i haven't seen any annihilapes

bold geode
cyan smelt
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i'm too low ranked probably

gentle notch
autumn vault
proper pivot
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how can i improve my team? its shiny lucario, garchomp, grimmsnarl, meowscarada, ceruledge and ogerpon

nocturne holly
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rip

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lando I at 26%??

strange fjord
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lando i making a comeback

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hard hitting special attacker to take down those pesky archaludon

bold geode
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Just carried over

strange fjord
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waiting for the day eviolite munchlax makes it in the top 100

autumn vault
bold geode
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You can swap the forms

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Swap forms, reset mochi, go from there

autumn vault
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ik, just why switch landorus and change its ev spread, moves, etc

bold geode
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For a good hitter lmao

autumn vault
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thats true, i cant say anything against it

bold geode
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Easier than resetting previous games and going for it

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I had to do that shit for an Urshifu

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And then afterwards I learned someone had an Urshifu farm

autumn vault
bold geode
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Eh it's alright
At the time my spreads weren't complex so
I basically only had to change it once other than teras

autumn vault
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also where are you guys getting those percent usages? I use pikalytics and it doesnt change the ratings and i dont see incarnate anywhere

bold geode
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MunchStats

smoky hawk
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Alright... I want this to be my Portland team next weekend. Let me know if this isn't terrible:

autumn vault
smoky hawk
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I included team notes

bold geode
autumn vault
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yup, it has prankster and latias doesnt

coarse cypress
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Are all PokƩmon currently usable?

smoky hawk
bold geode
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Sash

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Oh wait fuck
Cloak it

smoky hawk
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I know

coarse cypress
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Or are the blueberry academy mons still not usable in battle stadium

bold geode
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Um
Also Rocky Helmet on Latias is better and honestly Sitrus is available so put that on Incineroar

bold geode
strange fjord
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Urshifu-W does not want to punch a latias holding rocky helmet

bold geode
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Also Topaz the fact you have no speed on Entei and aren't running Inner Focus bothers me

coarse cypress
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Ahh alright. Iā€™m gonna have to restructure my team cus of how flawed they are against a lot of the popular ones Pearl

bold geode
strange fjord
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been running cover cloak on mine, but idk if i should switch to rocky or not. love to ignore those fake outs

coarse cypress
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Could i ask for someoneā€™s opinion on my team?

strange fjord
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i can give my opinion on it.

coarse cypress
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Thanks

bold geode
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What it be

nocturne holly
coarse cypress
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Is there a good website for me to create that on?

bold geode
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I was ready for a text wall

coarse cypress
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Me too, lol

bold geode
coarse cypress
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Alright Iā€™ll brb

smoky hawk
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If I sash whimsicott, what item for Chien-Pao? LO is taken

strange fjord
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either screenshot the team afterward or upload it to a pokepaste after

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life orb?

smoky hawk
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Yes

bold geode
strange fjord
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maybe clear amulet or nevermelt ice

smoky hawk
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I think I'll cloak whims

nocturne holly
bold geode
nocturne holly
strange fjord
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chein pao kinda needs sash fr

nocturne holly
nocturne holly
bold geode
strange fjord
smoky hawk
nocturne holly
nocturne holly
smoky hawk
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Because I've already covered everything you're saying

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But no worries

nocturne holly
coarse cypress
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How do i upload the pokepaste after?

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Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Drain Punch
  • Flare Blitz
  • Fake Out
  • U-turn

Gengar @ Expert Belt
Ability: Cursed Body
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Shadow Ball
  • Clear Smog
  • Thunder
  • Psychic

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Competitive
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Surf
  • Ice Beam
  • Grass Knot
  • Roost

Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Earth Power
  • Dragon Claw
  • Swords Dance
  • Iron Head

Scizor @ Punching Glove
Ability: Swarm
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

  • Pounce
  • Bullet Punch
  • Trailblaze
  • Brick Break

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Knock Off
  • Swords Dance
  • Protect
strange fjord
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should be at the botton the of team builder

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oop

bold geode
bold geode
coarse cypress
strange fjord
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nice

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is this for singles or doubles?

coarse cypress
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Singles

nocturne holly
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ok

coarse cypress
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I hastily made it so ivā€™s and tera types arenā€™t included, whoops

nocturne holly
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most of this chat is vgc based players, youā€™d need @summer shore Help for that

coarse cypress
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Ahh ok.

strange fjord
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welp, i don't the the singles meta. i shall hope someone else will provide better insight.

coarse cypress
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As far as I can tell for myself, a lot of them just donā€™t fare against whatā€™s currently running around in bss Pearl

molten oasis
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A lot of us donā€™t the singles meta

coarse cypress
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Iā€™m currently trying to make a doubles team, actually. I donā€™t think Iā€™ll use this same team but Iā€™m thinking of keeping infernape and scizor

molten oasis
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Infernape unfortunate kinds sucks in vgc

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@bold geode ask him about it

cyan smelt
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how come nobody's using alcremie in tr, decorate could be good

molten oasis
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He tried getting it to work for a month

nocturne holly
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monke knows all about itā€¦

dapper crag
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PokƩmon No. 869: Alcremie
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Sweet Veil, Aroma Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/60/75/110/121/64

Total

495

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
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cursed speed tier

coarse cypress
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Unfortunate

nocturne holly
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FO is useless in singles right

molten oasis
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Your fairy spot I feel would usually want flutter or primarina

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Meh defense and bad hp stat

coarse cypress
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In that case Iā€™ll probably just replace infernape with heatran

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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Thereā€™s reasons to not use alcreamie

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Like, the fact it blows up to physical hits lol

dapper crag
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Alcremie's moveset:
Physical Moves

Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Giga Impact, Last Resort, Play Rough, Tackle

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Hyper Beam, Magical Leaf, Misty Explosion, Mystical Fire, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Tera Blast, Tri Attack

Status Moves

Acid Armor, Aromatherapy, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Calm Mind, Celebrate, Charm, Decorate, Encore, Endure, Entrainment, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Imprison, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Recover, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Alcremie.

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
nocturne holly
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8 physical moves lmao

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why does it get drain punch

molten oasis
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I mean itā€™s a special attacker thatā€™s fine

dapper crag
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PokƩmon No. 987: Flutter Mane
Types

Ghost/Fairy

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/55/55/135/135/135

Total

570

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
nocturne holly
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wrong command šŸ˜­

dapper crag
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Flutter Mane's moveset:
Physical Moves

Astonish, Giga Impact, Phantom Force, Poltergeist

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Hex, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Icy Wind, Magical Leaf, Moonblast, Mystical Fire, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psyshock, Shadow Ball, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Charm, Confuse Ray, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Imprison, Mean Look, Memento, Misty Terrain, Pain Split, Perish Song, Protect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Trick Room, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Flutter Mane.

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
nocturne holly
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Flutter learns 4 šŸ’€šŸ’€

molten oasis
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I think you literally only use this Mon for decorate

nocturne holly
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yea

molten oasis
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giga impact fluttermane

nocturne holly
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it goes hard

dapper crag
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[Latest Gen] Latias
Reflect:
  • As Latias from a TM, HM or TR
SableyeBot version 4.25.0
nocturne holly
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why doesnā€™t it learn tr

smoky hawk
molten oasis
nocturne holly
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yea but

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it would be cool
too fast to utilize tr tho

bold geode
molten oasis
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It doesnā€™t get tr

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It is a 110 speed Mon lol

cyan smelt
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damn i didn't realise it was that fast

nocturne holly
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icy wind or ice beam on latias

cyan smelt
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mist ball

molten oasis
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Well

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Heā€™s saying along with mist ball

cyan smelt
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ice beam

bold geode
molten oasis
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And it depends, do you want additional speed control or killing power?

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Like with ice beam you best lando I and other Latias, that donā€™t have Draco

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Can also do good chip to rillaboom

nocturne holly
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I think icy wind works better with gambit

smoky hawk
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Is taunt uncommon? I'm concerned about all these latias running around with head gear

nocturne holly
cyan smelt
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helmet

smoky hawk
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Yeah I'm saying wouldn't mental herb be the safe choice?

coarse cypress
molten oasis
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Jk looks good

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Standard balance pretty much

nocturne holly
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lmao I got fucking scared for a minute

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idk I wanna do a bulkier lando I spread

molten oasis
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What do you want to live

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Thatā€™s always the first step

bold geode
craggy swan
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252+ SpA Life Orb Protosynthesis Tera Electric Raging Bolt Helping Hand Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Heatran: 361-426 (93.5 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

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šŸ˜Ž

bold geode
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Lefties Heatran best Heatran

craggy swan
bold geode
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Well look at all the shit

coarse cypress
molten oasis
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Fun fact. Mickey Mouse is now Public Domain

bold geode
craggy swan
molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
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Thatā€™s an example of public domain

nocturne holly
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what

molten oasis
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Anyone can do whatever they want with the character now

nocturne holly
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Winnie the Pooh horror film?

molten oasis
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Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey is a real film

bold geode
molten oasis
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Mhmm

bold geode
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Finally

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Let's go chat

nocturne holly
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thank god

bold geode
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I mean did the people who made that Five Nights at Treasure Island ever get sued?

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Actually remember Five Nights at Candy's?

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Actually @dull ibex do you know anything about FNAF fan games?

dapper crag
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Move: Hard Press

Power is equal to 120 * (target's current HP / target's maximum HP), rounded half down, but not less than 1.

Type

Steel

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

ā€‹

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
dull ibex
bold geode
dull ibex
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No

molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
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Mickey Mouse first appeared in 1928

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So every cartoon thing that came out in 1928 is public domain

whole ibex
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I been trying to get 0 speed iv Applin for weeks now šŸ’€

molten oasis
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Oof

whole ibex
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I tried breeding, I tried the afk strat and a few outbreaks.

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Honestly getting a little annoyed

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lol

next stump
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breeding should just be 1/32 odds right?

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how many eggs did you do

whole ibex
next stump
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and you made sure not to use an IV passing down item? because if itā€™s random IVs and you did 200+ hatched youā€™re insanely unlucky

whole ibex
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Time Iā€™m collecting eggs

whole ibex
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Iā€™m just not getting the shiny

next stump
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oh lol youā€™re trying for a shiny 0ATK

nocturne holly
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do you want a 0 spe and shiny

polar canyon
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You can get any male pokemon with 0 speed in the same egg group to pass the iv

next stump
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I thought just a 0ATK in general

whole ibex
next stump
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oh ye I meant SPE

polar canyon
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Whats applins egg group?

bold geode
whole ibex
polar canyon
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Oh

whole ibex
polar canyon
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If you want to make sure it gets the speed from the ditto give the ditto a power anklet

bold geode
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@molten oasis I'm jamming to Cupid in 2024

polar canyon
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You can give the applin the destiny knot

molten oasis
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Cupid is just a good song

whole ibex
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But thanks

polar canyon
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Weren't you complaining that you can't get it

bold geode
whole ibex
polar canyon
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I see

whole ibex
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Yeah, I can understand the mixup

polar canyon
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Honestly breeding is easier in swsh so if you can transfer it from there might as well

whole ibex
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As for the afk strat, there will be times where I would literally miss the no good speed by ONE IV.

whole ibex
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I mean, I suppose I can just do one of the marks that can be given that doesnā€™t need random wild encounters

bold geode
whole ibex
bold geode
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Little torn

whole ibex
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Oh lol

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I donā€™t know what to do anymore

next stump
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isnā€™t 0 and 1SPE IV functionally the same?

whole ibex
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You missed out on 4 evs

next stump
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Sorry for it being on mobile, but they both give you a 44 final stat

whole ibex
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Hold on

next stump
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so if itā€™s for trophy purposes and seeing the ā€œNo Goodā€, then 0SPE is needed, but otherwise 1SPE serves the same competitive purpose

near crag
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Is a goggles set viable on landorous?

next stump
molten oasis
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Lando I wants life orb

near crag
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Iā€™ve been playing with scarf, but I think it could benefit from the versatility

summer shore
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Did I get pinged here

karmic temple
molten oasis
nocturne holly
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theyā€™re gone now

next stump
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if you want a goggles intimidator, I think Incineroar fully outclasses Lando

molten oasis
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Agreed

next stump
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Lando is there to be scarfed and threaten damage with tera blast flying and fast u-turns

molten oasis
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I think Lando T is kinda, just, around rn. Lando I is the new hype rn

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also I feel like Lando T canā€™t run anything else but scarf

near crag
molten oasis
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Incineroar coming back hurts it a bit

bold geode
molten oasis
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Lando I does insane amounts of damage

bold geode
summer shore
molten oasis
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And scarf is on shifu a lot, so lando T wouldnā€™t get it

nocturne holly
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Sitrus incin is him

bold geode
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
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Mounke

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mOUnke

molten oasis
bold geode
whole ibex
# next stump

But in showdown, It won't let me put in the 4 evs when I slide it.

next stump
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Iā€™m not sure what you mean

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What is your Hydrappleā€™s EV spread

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252HP/252SpA/4DEF or SpD?

molten oasis
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Literally you just use incin now unless itā€™s filling a certain niche

whole ibex
molten oasis
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Like defensive coverage or something

next stump
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are you going for a 0 Speed IV but then investing into Speed with EVs?

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or will it have absolutely 0 speed at all

whole ibex
bold geode
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Dillon wtf are you running good sir

next stump
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then 0 or 1 IV is the same

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I promise

molten oasis
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Good question im curious myself

next stump
molten oasis
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FARIGIRAF POG

bold geode
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The 6 is back lmao

near crag
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Whatā€™s lando Iā€™s thing now? Whatā€™s the difference between it and lando T, in terms of playstile?

whole ibex
bold geode
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Dillon I remember that 6 was everywhere in fucking Toronto

next stump
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Oh I see

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Are you investing in 4 stats

whole ibex
next stump
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because this will technically result in wasted EVs

bold geode
next stump
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If you invest in 2 or 4 stats, you waste 4EVs

molten oasis
whole ibex
next stump
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so most TR 0SPE pokƩmon will just invest in 3 stats, or say fuck it and invest in 4 but waste 4EVs

molten oasis
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Lando I runs life orb and sheer force to blow stuff up with earth powers and sandsear storms

summer shore
molten oasis
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Then you have poison coverage for grass

summer shore
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Terrak in PU is crazy

molten oasis
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Interesting (idk wtf is going on in there)

karmic temple
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Wow so many moved to uu

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(I donā€™t know what that means)

bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
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Incineroar ain't OU though?

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I'm guessing it don't do shit in singles huh

molten oasis
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I dont think incineroar is the beast that it is in vgc compared to BSS

summer shore
bold geode
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But INFERNAPE DOES LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

molten oasis
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Iā€™m still avoiding torn

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And flutter, per usual

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If nothing else works than whatever

summer shore
molten oasis
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Lmao

bold geode
whole ibex
molten oasis
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I use it similar to gholdengo

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My gholdengo was always slower but I just set up and killed shit with it

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Hydrapple has giga drain so it can keep itself alive

near crag
molten oasis
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ā€¦Iā€™ll consider that

whole ibex
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^

bold geode
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Actually not the worst idea

whole ibex
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Peli looks good here

bold geode
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But keep in mind you're also making yourself prone to Torn

molten oasis
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I guess I donā€™t necessarily have a torn answer atm

summer shore
bold geode
near crag
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If you do pelliper and incineroar, you are even further encouraged to spam intimidate and parting shot

bold geode
near crag
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Rain gosa up again

molten oasis
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Id like other suggestions cuz in general I just donā€™t like pelipper as a PokĆ©mon, pretty frail, doesnā€™t hit very hard, just sets up tw+rain and dies is not something Iā€™m fond of

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the other thing being torn bleh

bold geode
molten oasis
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How is that not true thatā€™s what I seen it do

bold geode
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But it also looks funny

molten oasis
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Itā€™s fucking ugly

bold geode
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Yeah
That's why it looks funny

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Rowan my favorite professor what's up

fading pond
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this is my team's current offensive coverage and i need ideas for 2 more pokemon that will help cover water and ground + actually provide something

Screenshot_2024-01-01_at_15.37.27.png
bold geode
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What is the team?

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I mean easily if this is doubles I gotta say Rillaboom is one

molten oasis
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Rillaboom yea

fading pond
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i'll try that maybe

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ty

summer shore
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Pelipper is not that frail

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That mon can live some outrageous things

whole ibex
molten oasis
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From my experience itā€™s pretty frail

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I have also used it, not much.

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When I see it I kill it in 2 hits

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1 if I have electric coverage or something to explode it

molten oasis
dapper crag
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PokƩmon No. 279: Pelipper
Types

Water/Flying

Abilities

Keen Eye, Drizzle, Rain Dish (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/100/95/70/65

Total

440

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
summer shore
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That mon just lives physical neutrals that it shouldnt be

molten oasis
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Mk

static flame
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so what even is stellar type? how do u counter it whatā€™s SE against it

next stump
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the pokemon retains its original defensive typing

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so whatever would hit them before tera still hits them after tera

wild cairn
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how to share battle teams?

near crag
static flame
dawn crown
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is the damage for explosion the same at all health

nocturne holly
nocturne holly
dapper crag
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Move: Explosion

The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

250

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

ā€‹

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
kindred cypress
# summer shore

One of these days I will actually take time to find out what that means

orchid bay
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Anyone about? Discuss in game usage of Pogeymonz

smoky hawk
thorny glacier
static flame
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How do u get rid of opponents substitute?

nocturne holly
near crag
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how much time does pikalytics take to update to the new reg?

spice harbor
spice harbor
nocturne holly
smoky hawk
gentle cragBOT
nocturne holly
cyan smelt
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i wish i could come up with my own teams

nocturne holly
shell sandal
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can someone explain to me how battles work inside of the game? i play showdown but I was wondering whether there is tiers like OU inside of the game

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i dont got nso so i cant fight yet but im considering buying it tmw

near crag
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does super fang + counter work? maushold would super fang snorlax, who would counter, than maushold would do follow me, while snorlax chesto rests, than repeat, and lastly do a perish song strat. I didn't build yet, but seems interesting too my eyes

karmic temple
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Tfw you been farming 6* raids all day and havenā€™t gotten any hms šŸ˜­

karmic temple
shell sandal
karmic temple
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Yep

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Doubles battles, no multiple of the same items, mons set to 50, can only bring 4 of 6

nocturne holly
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vgc is the fucking sauce

craggy swan
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snarl incineroar almost fucked me

near crag
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what is the site that shows all the tournaments' leaderboards?

empty haven
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What protection move would be the best on smeargle

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Spiky shield would be my first guess but there are other options

next stump
nocturne holly
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anyone have an AV rilla set

craggy swan
#

why actually run armor tail when you can get your opponents to think you have it and then you run a other abilityChikoWTF

nocturne holly
craggy swan
near crag
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how does counter interact with super fang? does it damage twice the hp lost, or does it not deal damage at all?

nocturne holly
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Iā€™ve been using sand force lando i instead of flicking sheer force

dapper crag
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Move: Counter

Deals damage to the last opposing Pokemon to hit the user with a physical attack this turn equal to twice the HP lost by the user from that attack. If the user did not lose HP from the attack, this move deals 1 HP of damage instead. If that opposing Pokemon's position is no longer in use and there is another opposing Pokemon on the field, the damage is done to it instead. Only the last hit of a multi-hit attack is counted. Fails if the user was not hit by an opposing Pokemon's physical attack this turn.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

-5

Move Flags

ā€‹

Contact

Makes contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
knotty briar
#

Here's the team that brought me to master ball tier if anyone wants to try it

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brazen cedar
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Is Ursaluna blood moon able to be used for the upcoming vgc tournament

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Nice team

sly oasis
knotty briar
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Doubles

brazen cedar
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Thatā€™s double

knotty briar
#

Vikavolt in trick room is actually really good

brazen cedar
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Looks nasty

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Iā€™m gunna build it rn

knotty briar
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Removes, Rillaboom, Tornadus, most Ogerpon, and pretty much any tera grass/water

brazen cedar
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Yea I think I had mine as ghost or something

knotty briar
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Occa berry was purely because I couldn't think of a better item
It's strong enough to not need life orb

next stump
brazen cedar
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Dope I was building a team with it and wasnā€™t sure

next stump
#

are you going to a regional?

brazen cedar
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Just the one for fun on the 14th

knotty briar
#

Heavy slam on ursaluna is to nuke flutter mane

next stump
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as long as itā€™s the regulation F ruleset, itā€™ll be legal

brazen cedar
#

Sweet

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Thank you

brazen cedar
knotty briar
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Ogerpon and Kommo-o on the team was if trick room didn't seem that great

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Rare but it does happen

knotty briar
brazen cedar
#

Haha yea thatā€™s a funny bait tech too

knotty briar
#

I went earthquake over headlong rush because it was generally more useful

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Ignoring follow me and dealing chip while killing a threat is always useful

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Psyshock on Cresselia is basically to deal with amoongus

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Tera steel on Cresselia actually saved me in a match against a blood moon ursaluna

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Went from 43 hp to 7 after hyper voice allowing trick room to go up and have my ursaluna come in freely

next stump
knotty briar
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Assuming they're fully invested in defense

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It still did just under 50%

next stump
#

most spreads are +DEF and really highly invested for Urshifu

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knotty briar
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I personally went 212 defense and 46 sp def on my amoongus but I get what you're saying

next stump
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yes so psyshock would deal like 10% less to your amoonguss than psychic would

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but psyshock is nice into Iron Hands

knotty briar
#

Still a solid option since the shroom doesn't really do offense, but good to know

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Btw Cresselia moving after ursaluna in trick room is massive
Lunar dance healing means you heal the burn damage and flame orb means you keep the guts boost

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Imagine guts boosted facade one shotting your iron hands while lunar dance removes the burn damage

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It took a lot of trial and error to get that team to its best

craggy swan
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either I stalled the trick room or killed the cress fast

jovial storm
#

Okay, real question: why is a fluff ball better than a wind genie as a Prankster?

misty canopy
#

hey does anyone know why terrakion dropped to pu

jovial storm
#

Someone in another server had mentioned that it might be because everyone is using Iron Boulder.

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Or at least is part of the reason why.

misty canopy
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lol

little plank
#

Sooo alolan ninetails with flamethrower how?

knotty briar
knotty briar
little plank
#

It wasn't zoroark

knotty briar
#

My team had difficulty with indeedee and armarouge teams

little plank
#

Also is gigas wheezing combo looking to be good in reg f?

next stump
#

good is a stretch, but itā€™s usable

fathom geyser
#

Question, what does tera stellar even do?

knotty briar
#

Powers up each move once

fathom geyser
#

By how much?

knotty briar
#

It's basically a tera boost

fathom geyser
#

Is that it?

knotty briar
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I think so

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Terablast does become stronger, but lowers attack and sp attack after

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Great for contrary enamorus

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And serperior

fathom geyser
#

I wonder if that is even worth using compared to the defensive versatility regular tera provides.

jovial storm
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It depends on the Mon.

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At least I think it does.

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Hmm.

next stump
#

I think there are a handful of pokemon where tera stellar is even really a considerable option

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Chien-Pao is kinda cool, Flutter Mane is interesting

fathom geyser
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If the multiplier is really just 2.0 like regular tera wouldn't it be better to run a same type tera instead? I'm thinking in the case of urshifu for example

next stump
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Yes, Urshifu would always want to run Dark or Water in that case

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Stellar is kinda cool in the usage case where you can get a boosted close combat

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but that's pretty niche

jovial storm
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Thatā€™s it. Infernape.

fathom geyser
#

What is stellar effective against? Lmao

molten oasis
#

I have only seen stellar on serperior and enamorous, the contrary mons

knotty briar
molten oasis
jovial storm
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Nothing and everything Terastralized.

fathom geyser
#

Oh

molten oasis
fathom geyser
#

Did they nerf incin btw?

jovial storm
#

I hope not.

next stump
molten oasis
#

It got knock off and helping hand

fathom geyser
#

I'm guessing a group at gamefreak really likes incineroar

jovial storm
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I do, but that was before I heard about how much of a beast he is in competitive.

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So I am happy to know one of my favorite starters is a huge threat.

craggy swan
knotty briar
jovial storm
#

Which makes anyone with Contrary a scary threat.

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Sort of.

knotty briar
#

Enamorus and serperior go brrrrrr

jovial storm
#

I would throw Malamar there, but four times to Bug is debilitating.

knotty briar
#

Malamar gets skill swap now

jovial storm
#

Could imagine some mons having a Bug move for coverage.

craggy swan
#

I swear there was special moves for the gen 5 starters, they like combine and make a stronger attack

fathom geyser
#

Did they buf serperior?

jovial storm
#

Tera did that.

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Immensely.

fathom geyser
#

So it's finally time to use the funny banana?

molten oasis
cyan smelt
#

enamorus is super annoying because bleakwind storm raises its speed

craggy swan
molten oasis
#

Resist my iron head from av gambit now mf

molten oasis
fathom geyser
craggy swan
#

šŸ‘

jovial storm
#

Pledges are in the game.

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Ugh! I canā€™t decide on a team to make!

knotty briar
#

I getting real tired of imprison

jovial storm
#

All I want is the Rank Master Ribbon on my Incineroar!

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Among others.

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But I canā€™t decide on how to build my team!

knotty briar
#

Incineoar can't be used in ranked yet

cyan smelt
#

2 days

knotty briar
#

Didn't realize it was that close

fathom geyser
#

I have absolutely no idea on what to build.

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Besides banana with hands but I don't see that thing staying viable.

jovial storm
#

I have two days to make a team and nothing is jumping at me.

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Mostly because the mon I want to use is literally the most splashable mon in all of creation.

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So I donā€™t have a core to play with yet.

fathom geyser
#

Maybe wait a few days first to see what sorta stuff gets played commonly to form a idea of what would work

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Wait is ting lu + incin a good idea?

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Add palafin and amogus

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I doubt it but getting stuck in the barely any damage zone doesn't seem like a lot of fun to play

bold geode
fathom geyser
#

Why not?

bold geode
bold geode
fathom geyser
#

I keep forgetting urshifu lmao

bold geode
fathom geyser
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Then I got no ideas anymore besides hoping that flutter mane still stays good FlutterLove

molten oasis
#

And I fucking hate it

mellow barn
little plank
#

I keep thinking about running a perish trap team, but then think about fluttermane lol

lusty mountain
#

I need help with team building

steady cove
#

Who wants to have a 6v6 Single battle with no stat-boosting moves or abilities allowed?

Examples: Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, Speed Boost, Moxie. Items are fine.

DM me. I don't have server notifications on.

whole ibex
#

Yā€™all think Palafin can be used? (Asking for a friend)

molten oasis
wintry canyon
whole ibex
#

I need an excuse to use over Shifu

wintry canyon
#

oh yeah not much reason to...

molten oasis
#

Unless you use weezing, ig

mighty stump
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Lol

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It's really bad

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Forced into a turn of switching out or having no damage output is too easy for a lot of teams to capitalise on

raven sapphire
#

Hey Iā€™m new to PvP and I want to get into it more can someone help me make a team with greninja? Please heā€™s my favorite pokemon DM me if your willing to help Me out or just team building in general so I can do it on my own any tips or things I should know will help

mighty stump
# raven sapphire Hey Iā€™m new to PvP and I want to get into it more can someone help me make a tea...

Greninja is probably relegated to gimmick status/choice item like a Meowscarada-esque mon. You can probably enter him onto some Hyper Offense teams.
The way to make teams with your preferred choice of mons is to have an understanding of the current metagame (which, right now, isn't established since Reg F barely has started). That, or you can identify a solid goodstuffs rental/team and replace one of the mons with a similar typing e.g. Urshifu/Greninja.
Accept that the teams would probably not be as amazing as metagame teams as that is the sacrifice needed to run your favourites.

For overall Comp knowledge, for doubles I recommend visiting VGCguide.com as you need a strong foundation overall to build any sort of team, and some of this knowledge is transferrable to singles. Pikalytics/Pokestats is useful to see what standard sets look like for meta-pokemon. For youtube channels, you can watch CybertronVGC to see how teams are structured and played, and he showcases some pretty interesting ones.

raven sapphire
mighty stump
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Sure, but i'd be more welcoming to future communications be stuck to this channel

raven sapphire
#

Yeah I get that sorry

mighty stump
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No need to be

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Greninja @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Dark Pulse
  • Hydro Pump
  • U-turn
  • Ice Beam

This will probably be what i'd expect to run

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Grass Knot is also an alternative for coverage

raven sapphire
#

Wait I just finished the DLC and I still donā€™t get how Stellar tera type works

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What is it?

raven sapphire
mighty stump
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You retain your defensive typing, but all moves get a damage boost once per type.

raven sapphire
mighty stump
raven sapphire
mighty stump
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or about STAB bonuses

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Okay, just checking

raven sapphire
#

Yes

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I been messing around w showdown and I watched a few wolfeyVGC vids idk if heā€™s a notable yter tho

mighty stump
#

Since Greninja has a higher base SpA, you don't really want to be running physical moves. Yes, it can be considered a "mixed" attacker from memory in Singles, but overall it tends to run SpA moves. On that set, Low Kick and Rock Slide wouldn';t be doing nearly as much damage as it's regular SpA STABs like Pulse and Hydro

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The only reason U-Turn is on there is acting as a pivot move

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I just plonked Stellar Tera just because, why not, it's stylish

raven sapphire
#

Alr alr

mighty stump
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Plus it's technically considered a second Protean boost

raven sapphire
mighty stump
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Since Protean only triggers once now.

raven sapphire
#

Would some good counter parts for greninja be like amoongus, Arcanine - Hisui, n stuff bc thatā€™s what I run it w on showdown

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Wait would sap sipper Girasera be good w greninja?

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Not girasera sorry farigaraf

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Mb I was thinking ab a mon from a Roblox PokƩmon game I played earlier

mighty stump
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Allowing you to run something pivot heavy

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Farigiraf only wants Armor Tail

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I recommend just having the resources I pointed out a read before going on

raven sapphire
#

Alr bet thanks

mighty stump
#

-calc 205x0.67

gentle cragBOT
#

Result: 137.350000

summer shore
timber falcon
#

Is there a good way to utilise gholdengo anymore? Or does current meta destroy it

mighty stump
#

Nasty Plot + Clefairy honestly never goes wrong, its just Entei really made it annoying to run into

mighty stump
gentle cragBOT
mighty stump
#

Wow rep farming in my channel

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Reported

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@ moderator

timber falcon
timber falcon
#

tryna take the speed control with it

willow verge
#

wondering if you guys reckon Kyogre will be a part of VGC meta in the future or current, I have a really cool counter-Victini set

timber falcon
#

for this gen at least

willow verge
#

kinda sad i made the best sun team by the end of it but only used it on showdown

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main thing i remember was a wild victini set with final gambit and same hp evs as the common kyogre, as it was sun's main counter

mighty stump
#

Victini is a mythical though

bold geode
summer shore
bold geode
next stump
#

thereā€™s always at least a year of the game where they are playable

timber falcon
charred saddle
#

water tera waterspout choice scarf kyogre in rain EvilRondo

spark ledge
#

anybody has a rental raging bolt team?

bold geode
#

Regulation F isn't up until the 4th

spark ledge
#

oh im playing on showdown

next stump
#

i wonder why they opted to start on the 4th rather than the 1st or 2nd

mighty stump
#

New Years

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Probably

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Holidays and whatnot

near crag
#

Can smeargle learn revival belssing?

next stump
#

no

unkempt flax
#

Yo @mighty stump Iā€™ve cooked again

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Wanna hear it

mighty stump
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Go on

unkempt flax
#

Alright. Before I say anything, a few days ago I got 1410+ on the showdown B03 with it. Thatā€™s not alot, really, but itā€™s a baseline nonetheless.
Anyways Smeragle with shedtail on tailwind HO is actually so much fun

mighty stump
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I hear Smeargle, im leaving

unkempt flax
#

Good day

mighty stump
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1410 bo3 is pretty alright

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thats what, top 100 rn?

molten oasis
#

Smeargle cringe

unkempt flax
#

Um I think it was top 120

mighty stump
#

No clue what the ladder is looking like

molten oasis
#

Fuck smeargle

mighty stump
#

Nice

unkempt flax
#

Nah but like why is no one using it tho

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Am I just old lol

molten oasis
#

Shifu ruins its life

mighty stump
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Like, powercreep

viscid shoal
mighty stump
#

Personally I have no experience with Smeargle, I just think it's ugly and the only time ive seen is on cringe gimmick teams

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Having a mon that can essentialy learn anything is pretty nice

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But the statline makes me desire something else in that slot that I can just use more comfortably

unkempt flax
#

Hold on this is the team. Itā€™s a rental because I posted it on other discord servers. Im not at my pc so I donā€™t have a paste

molten oasis
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Follow me spore fake out is the set I see most

unkempt flax
molten oasis
#

On real teams

unkempt flax
#

Low rez šŸ’Ŗ

molten oasis
#

Like that for example

mighty stump
#

See is it really Smeargle or is it the fact you got PaoTei

molten oasis
#

PaoTei is everywhere rn huh

unkempt flax
#

I brought sneragle 45% verses balance

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Never into tailwind

mighty stump
#

Wouldnt Grass Tera be better here so your Spore doesnt get Rage Powdered

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Anywyas we finished Nino tour today at 4th I think

molten oasis
#

I also feel smeargle wants to resist shifu

mighty stump
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9-1 record

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PaoTeiNite is goated

molten oasis
knotty mirage
unkempt flax
mighty stump
#

It can, if you resist it

knotty mirage
#

I mean with that kind of bulk

mighty stump
#

But Urshifu can still KO through resist depending

molten oasis
#

Rain shifu prob just explodes it anyway

mighty stump
dapper crag
#
PokƩmon No. 235: Smeargle
Type

Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Technician, Moody (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/20/35/20/45/75

Total

250

SableyeBot version 4.25.0
molten oasis
#

Yeesh

knotty mirage
#

Seem's like it will always get kod by surging strike especially if it's under rain or water terra

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No matter defensive terra you use

mighty stump
#

Yeah it does

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I don't deny its utility though

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Just not my thing I suppose

unkempt flax
mighty stump
#

Yeah I was thinking just run boom there

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Lmao

knotty mirage
#

I mean tbf smeargle does not exist on swsh

#

So yeah idk

mighty stump
unkempt flax
#

Also. First time, in the past year that Iā€™ve used torn shifu. Man it does just get free wins

mighty stump
#

Its freelo

unkempt flax
#

Itā€™s honestly sad lol

mighty stump
#

As much as obviously all teams take skill, some are harder to pilot than others

unkempt flax
#

Like so long the days of low elo hell, back to 1400+ doing good versing good teams, instead of versing gimmicks

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Itā€™s not hard versing gimmick teams, itā€™s just annoying

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(Says the person who runs wo-chien)

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Also side note, I love bundle and gholdengo rn

polar canyon
#

If leftovers heals as much as it does being a mostly eaten apple

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Imagine how effective a whole apple would be in competitive

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That's why they banned apples

mighty stump
summer shore
#

@mighty stump guess who just went gym between 1-3am

molten oasis
#

Why?

little plank
#

So just threw up a team idea, not sure about terms but curious what you guys think.

tame night
#

Hi, I have a question. So I wanted to get back into competitive. Sadly I donā€™t have many Legis like Raging bolt, because of the version exclusives. So I decided to get some illegal hacked Pokemon. Now I watched some videos and most of them said that you would get banned for using them. Is that true and if it is true, is there any reliable way to get my hand on these version exclusives?

dapper frigate
#

Lmao. No one is getting banned for Jacksonā€™s

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Hackmons*

little plank
#

Just don't bring them to tournaments is all

tame night
#

Ok, thanks.

next stump
tame night
bold geode
mighty stump
#

That's peak

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Wish ym gym was open around that time

mighty stump
bold geode
#

Current

dapper crag
#

is magcargo any good for double battle?

uneven viper
#

You guys, if you were to use Ninetales in VGC (the fire one) which things you'd think of surviving?

mighty stump
#

Urshifu in sun

uneven viper
uneven viper
mighty stump
#

ESpeed from Dnite

uneven viper
#

I know, but it's insane, it KOs

mighty stump
#

Specs Shadow Ball + Proto

mighty stump
uneven viper
dapper crag
uneven viper
#

That is insane

mighty stump
#

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 20 HP / 0 Def Ninetales in Sun on a critical hit: 132-162 (87.4 - 107.2%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO

#

?

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If its Mystic Water you just Wisp it

bold geode
#

Will O Wisp funny moments

mighty stump
#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Ninetales: 151-178 (84.3 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

Ninetales
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 28 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid Nature

uneven viper
#

šŸ˜¦

mighty stump
#

Or just run a Flutter Mane next to it and who cares

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Flutter now pressures the Shifuslot

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Why is that 100/116

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252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ninetales in Sun on a critical hit: 150-186 (83.3 - 103.3%) -- approx. 12.5% chance to OHKO

summer shore
#

Flutter Mane more like Butter Plane

uneven viper
#

Sorry I am new to making calcs so I guess I was doing it wrong

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At first it said it was a 2ohko

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But I guess I was doing it wrong lol

mighty stump
#

252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 244 HP / 52 Def Ninetales in Sun on a critical hit: 144-168 (80.4 - 93.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Flamethrower over Weather Ball on Walking Wake

uneven viper
#

Oh fr? I thought weather wall was better since I have sun

uneven viper
mighty stump
#

Weather Ball hits 100 BP in Sun while Flamethrower is 135 BP

mighty stump
#

Its not even worth the investment, id just speed creep Jolly Urshifus, live the Scarfed one and Wisp non-scarfed

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Which leads us to this
Ninetales
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 28 SpA / 236 Spe
Timid Nature

uneven viper
mighty stump
#

Also Ninetales isn't faster than Flutter Mane to get real value from Fake Tears

uneven viper
#

Yeah been trying to figure out some evs for ninetales cuz there's been scenarios where urshifu vs ninetales come into play and I lose

uneven viper
mighty stump
#

Either Helping Hand or Wisp. Overheat as well. I don't see why Urshi-Water is a problem when you have Walking Wake as a x4 resist as well

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Which, I don't get why you're splitting the EVs on it either, just go for 244 SpA

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and id run U-Turn on Urshifu

uneven viper
#

life orb recoil, I read that the hp ev should finish in 9?

mighty stump
#

Optimising for recoil isn't worth sacrificing damage

uneven viper
#

Lol I like that thinking

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Would you drop Energy Ball on Ninetales?

mighty stump
#

Yes

uneven viper
#

For Wisp or Overheat?

#

Also, the fact that rillaboom lived a max special attack heatwave under sun is insane to me :l

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hahahahah

mighty stump
#

Either or. Overheat with Eject Pack can be fine.

mighty stump
#

252 SpA Ninetales Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rillaboom in Sun: 176-210 (85 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

You don't even KO non AV Boom

uneven viper
#

LOL my poor fox

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How does eject pack work?

molten oasis
#

Whatā€™s happening today yā€™all

fallen garden
#

Does A-tales have similarly bad spatk

uneven viper
#

Yes

mighty stump
#

A-Tales is just faster

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and bulkier thanks to Snow

molten oasis
#

Unfortunately torn clicking rain dance ruins itā€™s entire niche

mighty stump
#

im more than happy to let torn click rain dance ez freeze dry

molten oasis
#

True true

mighty stump
#

Anyways, bed time

#

Nino tour took me out

molten oasis
#

This early? Damn

mighty stump
#

its midnight for me

molten oasis
#

Good to know

mighty stump
#

Either im going to bed or im gonna commit to shiny hunting this jumbo joltik

molten oasis
#

Yippee

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I have to, figure out a 6th, again

#

The evs on gambit live lando I ep and sludge bomb post Tera

bold geode
mighty stump
#

What question

bold geode
#

About the fucking pfp
I know that was a commission

mighty stump
#

What the one I have?

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This one?

bold geode
#

Yes bro

mighty stump
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A friend made it for me lol

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Like 15 bucks

bold geode
#

Oh I see

mighty stump
#

Do you want their twitter?

bold geode
#

Sure
I'm thinking about getting something rn
Haven't decided yet but I'd like to see stuff

molten oasis
#

again

mighty stump
#

Slap metagross

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have fubn

molten oasis
#

Ffs

mighty stump
#

Bolt/Your own Lando/Metagross/Entei

bold geode
molten oasis
#

k guess Iā€™ll slap PaoTei idk wtf to do anymore

mighty stump
#

I see nothing wrong witht hat lol

molten oasis
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I have 0 real speed control and no fske out pressure

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I have icy wind of clef which I rarely click

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Because itā€™s dead

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From clicking follow me

mighty stump
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Booster Speed Mane if you want Icy Wind + some form of offense that can still pair with Clef.

Just stack Rillaboom as your typing and Incin as well

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You know you don't always HAVE to click Follow Me right

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Getting maximum value from Friend Guard means you take the hit on non-Clef

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It's not just to live miscellaneous spread moves

molten oasis
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Fair

mighty stump
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You can try Heal Pulse on Clef so youre not alwyas clicking Follow Me

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over Icy Wind

molten oasis
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I dropped rilla cuz having those weaknesses to ice and flying felt pretty shitty

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When I had thundy

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booster speed icy wind mane and incin it is then.

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bleh

bold geode
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That was my one idea lol

mighty stump
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Or you can run NPlot Chi-Yu next to Clef as well, or you stick to running Trick Room because you need things to incentivise being attacked

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So there is real punishment to doubling a slot

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Farig/Cress + Add an Ursaluna which can focus on Bulk next to a Clefairy

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Flame Orb and Goggles are open anywayas

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You can even add on Calm Mind/Stored Power Cress or something if you want to be quirkjy

molten oasis
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maybe Iā€™ll do that

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still donā€™t really want to touch fluttermane

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but itā€™s in the builder

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well, icy wind flutter doesnā€™t do much for me speed wise if I have 4 under 60 speed mons šŸ« 

mighty stump
orchid bay
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Anyone about?

bold geode
mighty stump
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Yeah because Pikalytics takes data from Munchstats cause its the precursor

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im dead

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dapper crag
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Clefable heal pulse is underrated, i interchange it with wish sometimes

mighty stump
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Fall of the fraud

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bold geode
molten oasis
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this is the last variant im testing before I throw in the towel

orchid bay
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What moveset would you recommend on Electivire for in game? Supercell Slam, Cross Chop, Ice Punch/Trailblaze and Body Slam?

mighty stump
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Wild Charge is still better compared to Supercell Slam.

dapper crag
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I wish Smeargle had evolution just to fix their overall stats

mighty stump
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Volt Switch if youre going to run AV sets and add on either Stomping Tantrum or Knock Off for move coverage/Utility

molten oasis
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Iā€™m fucking over pulling my hair out over this, I canā€™t teambuild for shit, doesnā€™t help I restrict myself either

orchid bay
mighty stump
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Because I don't like the idea of losing half my HP if someone protects/switches in a ground type/missing

molten oasis
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I can always get some core going then number 6 is a pain in the fucking ass headwall

orchid bay
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Iā€™ve already used the TM šŸ¤£

orchid bay
molten oasis
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anyway test time

mighty stump
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Doesn't change my answer

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Lando-T/Lando-I is still prevalent enough to worry about it.

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And Protect is just standard.

orchid bay
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Eh?

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In game?

mighty stump
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...? Yes?

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In-Game? The ladder in game?

orchid bay
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Which gym leader has Pandoraā€™s?

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Noooooo.

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Landorus***

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Not to play ladder

mighty stump
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But this isn't the channel for PvE content

orchid bay
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Which is?

mighty stump
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But overall in that case

orchid bay
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They always say come here to talk movesets and EVs

mighty stump
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Just run Supercell Slam if you want to

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I'd still run Ice Punch for coverage and otherwise do whatever you want for the other 2

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You absolutely do not need EVs for PvE content either.

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And here you can also get away with just running max hp max atk

molten oasis
mighty stump
orchid bay
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Well. I almost lost to Crispin with the setup I have, so Iā€™m happy with the EV training and breeding I did for this team

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But yeah. Stomping Tantrum is a shout. Ice punch hits ground harder than trailblazer

mighty stump
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You can clear the DLC by just Max HP + relevant offensive stat

charred saddle
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oh old pfp tofu

mighty stump
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Yer

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Back to standing on bisnis

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and by standing I mean going to bed

bold geode
dull ibex
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Hi

molten oasis
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Ok, I think I finally got something

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Av kingambit slaps

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I like where my Hydrapple is at

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Shifu and incin feel pretty good

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Clef is good

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I think Iā€™m keeping icy wind on it for now

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Fari is also prob the ideal speed control as my team is fucking slow

charred saddle
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u have a vertical bed tofu? damn

mighty stump
charred saddle
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aowkaowakow

mighty stump
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gw lapar cuy

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zzz

uneven viper
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Guys, is there any drawback or negative effect to using Hydro stream under rain?

mighty stump
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No.

polar canyon
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The drawback is that you don't get the speed/spatk boost you'd get from sun

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But idk if you can even call that a drawback

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Just less bonus

uneven viper
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I was thinking it would do less damage, but under rain it will be 80 base power, right?

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It would not be boosted by rain, hydro steam is only boosted by sun?

bold geode
inner jewel
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Is there a good website where u can check pokemon /team usage in doubles (vgc format)? Or check sets etc

bold geode
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Pikalytics or MunchStats

inner jewel
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thank u

bold geode
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Don't have MunchStats link but Pikalytics gets their info from MunchStats anyways so

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Np

pale cipher
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Reg F

bold geode
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VGC I presume?

nocturne holly
pale cipher
nocturne holly
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ok so
I donā€™t see a point of cress on this
Nothing here needs tr

pale cipher
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Cress I'd mostly a redirection

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I can't use indeedee cause of psychic terrain

nocturne holly
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I think sunny day torn would be nice, buff harc and wake

pale cipher
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Cancels my priority scizor

nocturne holly
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Scizor isnā€™t the sauce rn

pale cipher
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I wanna make it the SAUCE tho lol

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I love my scizor dude looks so good in this game finally lol

nocturne holly
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ok first if you really wanna use scizor, I think you should use CA on it

mighty stump
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This feels smashed together

nocturne holly
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you also should have protect

mighty stump
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Eleki/Cress/Wake have no real contribution other than just existing imo

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Making use of Scizor's priority you might as well go along with Paonite stuff

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That or you run CA as suggested by Cigar

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and you run Swords Dance on a balance style comp

uneven viper
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Thnx

uneven viper
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With raging bolt maybe

crude pollen
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What is CA?

uneven viper
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Or Ursaluna blood moon, considering you got Regieleki already

mighty stump
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Clear Amulet.

pale cipher
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I know urshi water is used alot in this reg that's why I had eleki to scare urshi

mighty stump
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Raging Bolt does the same thing without being nearly as frail or reliant on Speed Control

uneven viper
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Yeah it could be a good addition, it also has priority Thunderclap

mighty stump
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It's not like anything here really benefits off of EWebs either

uneven viper
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And since a lot of them use scarf, if your trick room, that should be an advantage

little plank
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This is the kinda team I'm going for, need help with evs and teras though

pale cipher
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So git rid of eleki add bolt

little plank
mighty stump
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Your sets and EVs also need fixing

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  • Dual Wingbeat on Scizor, Tera Water over Fairy
  • Rillaboom wants defensive EVs, not Max Spe Atk/Jolly
  • Walking Wake wants significantly more speed and that defensive EV investment looks suboptimal. Id also run Draco over Dragon Pulse.
  • Change Regieleki
  • I don't really see what Tera Blast Water is hitting that would be relevant for that but eh.
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And Scizor is also missing 4 EVs

mighty stump
little plank
mighty stump
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Why is Amoonguss Eject Button

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Id rather have another recovery item on Politoed rather than a Damp Rock if you're playing pivot heavy cause you can reset weather later down the line anyways.

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Incineroar probably wants the EVs relating to Lando-I rather than Urshifu so

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Gothitelle does not want Sassy Nature

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Cause you're not running 0 Spe IVs

dull ibex
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vc?

mighty stump
little plank
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I have eject button on amoonguss as I can switch gothitelle out from a hit that might ko it and bring it back in to keep the shadow tag up

dull ibex
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its up

pale cipher
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look better? prob not lol

mighty stump
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It's better, I still don't see what Walking Wake is doing for you here

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If you need a Raging Bolt set there is one in the pins

pale cipher
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the walking wake was fire covrage

mighty stump
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Why do you have 28 Def on it

molten oasis
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That is a tanky rillaboom

mighty stump
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Where are you getting the EVs from?