#competitive_discussion

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mighty stump
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Probably

atomic mural
fallen rivet
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List of mons I feel stellar type would be good on that are vgc viable:

Enamorous
Terapagos

atomic mural
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i def want a strong physical attacker but idk who

fallen rivet
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Urshifu is a good choice as is rilla

forest arrow
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Urshifu works

fallen rivet
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Both forms

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Though water is usually better

forest arrow
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I’d opt for water with Torns Rain

atomic mural
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ok

nocturne holly
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Fari has been one of the best on this

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idk ig I could try sinis?

atomic mural
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should i go mystic water or choice scarf set?

nocturne holly
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that would work right

mighty stump
nocturne holly
mighty stump
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Eugh Electro Shot

chrome knot
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tofbu

mighty stump
mighty stump
chrome knot
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hay

mighty stump
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hai

nocturne holly
chrome knot
forest arrow
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It’s not STAB and needs rain to use without wasting an item slot on herb

nocturne holly
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that’s what I thought

mighty stump
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Only against certain matchups do you have a guarantee

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I.e no weather/no sun

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specifying cause sun/torn are two different things

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and that as a generalist id prefer running tbolt so im not forced to run something else

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that sets Rain for me

atomic mural
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is this good

nocturne holly
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mhm

atomic mural
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i just need to make an ev spread

forest arrow
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Probably want priority in Aqua Jet over U-turn, U-Turn is better on scarf variants so you pull it off without getting hit

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252atk/252spe

atomic mural
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finally

forest arrow
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Can dump 4 into HP or SpD whatever your pref

atomic mural
forest arrow
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Amoongus

mighty stump
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Speaking of Electro Shot

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I’m gonna probably try some HO version of Archaludon to fully form an opinion

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I’m still not convinced about it but we’ll see

mighty stump
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BP?

keen karma
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body press

mighty stump
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No

keen karma
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they got the mini sprites for the new mons in

nocturne holly
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Thank god

mighty stump
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Oh the Archa sprite is so nice

atomic mural
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this is good correct

keen karma
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look at the raging

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raging looks so fucking good

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i might try comfey

mighty stump
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Archaludon @ Life Orb
Ability: Stalwart
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Electro Shot
  • Draco Meteor
  • Flash Cannon
  • Protect
nocturne holly
dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1021: Raging Bolt
Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/73/91/137/89/75

Total

590

keen karma
nocturne holly
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it’s bulk is not ideal

keen karma
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it has plenty of bulk

mighty stump
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It’s bulk is amazing wym

keen karma
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especially for the damage it can dish out

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i want to use the paradox mons but i dont want to find out on the 25th they arent legal

mighty stump
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But im currently trying to translate some JPN builds

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Unfortunately I don’t read the language

tired sage
keen karma
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its top 3 but idk wth its top 3 in

tired sage
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huh…

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it’s kanji ;-;

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i feel so useless now-

mighty stump
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It’s probably one of Cobalt’s tours

keen karma
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are those on limitless

atomic mural
mighty stump
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Ladder tour

tired sage
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water moongus maybe…?

keen karma
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wait actually tofu what are your sources to get jpn teams

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i wanna watch their tourneys

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but i have no idea where to find them

nocturne holly
mighty stump
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and Liberty Note

molten oasis
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It’s bulk is so good

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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🫵ha

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Anyway

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How we all doing atm

keen karma
forest arrow
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About to shiny hunt Duraludon

molten oasis
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Throw you really called aipom lover

keen karma
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drago gimme a random mon to use

forest arrow
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aye bruh anime aipom

molten oasis
forest arrow
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Don’t hate lol

keen karma
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no i dont

molten oasis
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Ok

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HYDRAPPLE

forest arrow
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Hydrapple

keen karma
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wait that is predictable

forest arrow
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Called it lol

keen karma
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hydrapple + comfey ig

mighty stump
atomic mural
nocturne holly
forest arrow
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It’s has great bulk, just max max

molten oasis
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With rain from torn or pelipper

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mighty stump
molten oasis
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Gouging fire

forest arrow
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They’re that better? Lmao

bold geode
keen karma
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gouging is an amazing pick

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im on it

mighty stump
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Im getting this translated

forest arrow
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Bulwark is cool but you can still get spored so idk if I really like it over protect

bold geode
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Ok good I was confused for a sec

molten oasis
keen karma
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they already have spreads for raging

mighty stump
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Wow okay

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I see how it is

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It’s an expectation now

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You’re getting abandoned

bold geode
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Drago you went to Japan for a week
You should know Japanese

bold geode
keen karma
molten oasis
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Pfp change up time

keen karma
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eww

molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
fallen rivet
nocturne holly
molten oasis
dapper crag
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Raging Bolt's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Crunch, Double-Edge, Dragon Hammer, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, Giga Impact, Heavy Slam, Outrage, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Supercell Slam, Take Down, Thunder Fang, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Charge Beam, Discharge, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Rising Voltage, Shock Wave, Snarl, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Thunderclap, Twister, Volt Switch, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Charge, Dragon Cheer, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Protect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Taunt, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Raging Bolt.

keen karma
bold geode
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Yeah Tofu isn't that how it works?

molten oasis
bold geode
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Like honestly once you get there, you just get put in a different dub

nocturne holly
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what moveset and item for raging bolt

nocturne holly
molten oasis
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Tbolt thunderclap Draco/pulse and protect

mighty stump
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99% of the time dub is just done badly

fallen rivet
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I’ve liked lefties and calm mind/tclap/dpulse/prot

mighty stump
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sadge

dapper crag
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Move: Fake Out

Has a 100% chance to make the target flinch. Fails unless it is the user's first turn on the field.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

40

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

3

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

fallen rivet
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Sadge

molten oasis
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Sadge indeed

keen karma
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wait

fallen rivet
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Waiting

mighty stump
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itd be less bad if there was better meshing between the emotion and the voice of the lines

bold geode
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You're one of those gatekeepers huh
"If you're not watching it in Japanese sub, then you're not getting the true experience"

keen karma
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draining kiss on comfey outspeeds fake out

summer shore
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Morning chat tahc gninroM

mighty stump
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Lol

bold geode
mighty stump
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But its not about “more emotion”

nocturne holly
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They actually drive me to a point of like
“Fuck this I’m not watching it”

mighty stump
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its the delivery

molten oasis
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Cool ways to proc weakness policy SChewwo

fallen rivet
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Depends on the dub, because FMAB’s dub is 👌👌👌

molten oasis
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real

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FMAB is so good

mighty stump
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The Boy and The Heron’s dub is pretty alright

mighty stump
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Cyberpunk Edgerunners is dub and sub done right

fallen rivet
molten oasis
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Still need tonwatch that

mighty stump
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Sukuna v Mahoraga also was done well in sub and dub

bold geode
mighty stump
molten oasis
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One piece has a decent dub

forest arrow
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Yall down to grind BP?

bold geode
molten oasis
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Luffy is, luffy prevents me from touching the dub whatsoever

summer shore
molten oasis
bold geode
keen karma
molten oasis
keen karma
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for jjk

fallen rivet
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I’ve only watched AoT ds and fmab. And I guess some of the pokemon and bakugan anime PikaLmao

mighty stump
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I dont have the patience for animations sometimes and I read fast

bold geode
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I also like how like a good chunk of the voice cast for DBZ dub was introduced at the start lmao

bold geode
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In OP

keen karma
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how do you feel about the recent chapters in terms of quality

summer shore
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Tho?

molten oasis
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Zoro and franky English va go hard

fallen rivet
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Eren VA very good and also inosuke in the dub which confuses me

summer shore
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Ch235?

keen karma
bold geode
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Like Vegeta and Piccolo is Zoro
Trunks is Sanji
Krillin is Usopo

keen karma
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it ends in a year

summer shore
nocturne holly
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What item for raging bolt? Booster energy?

fallen rivet
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Lefties imo

molten oasis
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Although I can’t ever deny SUUUUPERRRRR in the Japanese dub

bold geode
keen karma
molten oasis
summer shore
bold geode
keen karma
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it feels like jjk fell off

bold geode
keen karma
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it just dont feel the same 😔

bold geode
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Yeah I love the ice picks

fallen rivet
mighty stump
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Personally JJK is just one of my favourites cause also I get to talk about it with my friends

mighty stump
keen karma
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and i talk abt blue lock too

bold geode
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Bleach is good
MHA is not the greatest but ain't bad
Lot of people get turned off by the fanbase

fallen rivet
keen karma
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blue lock jjk and kaiju no 8 are what i read mostly

keen karma
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but for some reason the schedule for kaiju no 8 makes it hard for me to keep up

forest arrow
mighty stump
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Kaiju No 8 is scheduling trouble

keen karma
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i never know when chapters are dropping

fallen rivet
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I tried code geass but I didn’t jive with it imo

mighty stump
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You know what’s based af

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My girlfriend knows Air Gear and Yu Yu Hakusho

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and I was like god damn

keen karma
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thats a W

mighty stump
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I hit the jackpot

molten oasis
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Yay I got a better one scrolling google for a second

fallen rivet
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My aunt really likes fruits basket

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Idk I really don’t know anime

forest arrow
mighty stump
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Ah Fruits Basket

molten oasis
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I agree

mighty stump
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I just hear about it

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What else am I reading

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Oh yeah

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mighty stump
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“100 Ghost Stories to Tell Before My Death”

keen karma
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went in unsatisfied cried when it ended

mighty stump
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86

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Peak anime

fallen rivet
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I watched that one set of Star Wars based anime. Two of them were very cool

molten oasis
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Hmm

keen karma
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i actually never saw 86

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never heard anything about it either

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but like i was going to watch it

molten oasis
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I kinda teared up last when Luffy finally defeated Kaido, like happy tears

mighty stump
fallen rivet
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I’ve heard about initial d and evangelion

Evangelion frightens me

molten oasis
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Real gust of emotion happened with that insane track in the background

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Music hits me if done right

mighty stump
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Evangelion is good for what it was at the time but its not a “ill rewatch it” type anime

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Like its cerebral

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lmao

keen karma
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i love evangelion

fallen rivet
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Another server I’m in loves it, even though it has nothing to do with it

dull ibex
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Gurren Laggan >

keen karma
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my all time favorite manga has to be opm so far

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or technically manwha

molten oasis
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I will not watch evangelion anytime soon

keen karma
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i love the webtoon

molten oasis
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Have a list of things I need to watch

mighty stump
molten oasis
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Gundam goes so hard

dull ibex
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No

molten oasis
mighty stump
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You just need pretty colours to stay stimulated ADHDBoy

dull ibex
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Honestly death note goes hard

fallen rivet
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I so want to watch a mecha anime that isn’t hyperviolent/sus/sad

mighty stump
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Dearh Note is so overrated

fallen rivet
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Like big robot go brrr

dull ibex
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Your taste is wrong

molten oasis
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I feel the same way with my hero

mighty stump
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You eat chicken nuggets from a microwave

molten oasis
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I think my hero is insanely overrated

mighty stump
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Don’t talk to me about taste

keen karma
dull ibex
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My hero is popular that's it

keen karma
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i was binging then frieren dropped

molten oasis
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You’ve seen the average mha fan right red?

mighty stump
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I need to watch Frieren

fallen rivet
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Mha just weirds me out. Idk why

molten oasis
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they’re something else to say the least

mighty stump
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DanDaDan fell off

nocturne holly
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ok being totally unbiased (death note is like the only anime I’ve ever watched) best anime I’ve ever seen

dull ibex
solid ravine
mighty stump
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Gachiakuta is super underrated

keen karma
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one anime that is underrated is blue period

plain drum
molten oasis
mighty stump
dull ibex
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mighty stump
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SAYS THE DEATH NOTE ENJOYER

dull ibex
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There's nothing special about the my hero Fandom

keen karma
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its so good

dull ibex
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I don't watch anime

fallen rivet
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Aot is one of the anime ever

molten oasis
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No just the title is weird

mighty stump
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ALL U DO IS WRITE BOOK, THIRST OVER A BLONDE AND DIE

dull ibex
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I am not even anime normie

keen karma
dull ibex
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Tbf the blonde was simping for him

mighty stump
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mighty stump
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That shit hurded

dull ibex
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No they aren't

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They're like every other popular anime

plain drum
molten oasis
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Red has never met a true MHA fan

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Smh

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dull ibex
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The dbz Fandom is just as annoying, the jojo's Fandom is just as bad

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Naruto, etc. They're equally as cringe

fallen rivet
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Idk but there’s this one anime about weird monsters you catch in balls. I think you could make a video game or trading card game based on it

dull ibex
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As a jojo's fan They're just as bad

mighty stump
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You can’t just equalise literally every fandom for being individually cringe though

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DBZ scales at the top

dull ibex
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They're all cringe because they're super popular

mighty stump
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MHA scales cringe in a different manner

fallen rivet
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Popularity attracts cringe imo

mighty stump
dull ibex
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They all have stupid degenerate morons

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dull ibex
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Gundam fans are also fucking annoying

mighty stump
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Me staring at Hell’s Paradise enjoyers

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Where is the cringe cause it’s popular too

keen karma
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it could've been better though

mighty stump
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Popular not = cringe

dull ibex
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Popular does equal cringe

fallen rivet
dull ibex
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I'm not going to listen to counter arguments

mighty stump
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Thats just contrarian lmao

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You’re literally being contrarian

plain drum
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I’ll keep cherishing my Banana Fish

fallen rivet
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The what

mighty stump
dull ibex
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I've had mostly kind interactions with zelda fans, they have cringe idiots too

plain drum
dull ibex
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It's me I'm the cringe idiot

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I care about the timeline 🤮

plain drum
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Isn’t Zelda like 3 timelines

dull ibex
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You don't want to open this can of worms

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I could go on for hours

keen karma
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do you like sports anime/manga

dull ibex
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Me?

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I don't watch anime

fallen rivet
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Oh yeah I watched part of the volleyball anime. That was fun

plain drum
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If I ever actually feel like learning about Zelda (never played the games) I’ll be sure to track you down then

dull ibex
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Anyways my hero is a fine show, over hyped.

fallen rivet
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Ya

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dull ibex
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Dbz is the one I have beef with

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Because you like literally any anime and those idiots go BUT DBZ DID IT FIRST!!!! CAN THEY BEAT GOKU

summer shore
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As bad as dbz fans are one piece is as bad

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Lol

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dull ibex
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That's the thing

mighty stump
dull ibex
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Dragon ball is great

summer shore
fallen rivet
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Idk I don’t actively seek out anime to watch. I usually just see what’s recommended/already on

keen karma
dull ibex
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But I never want to watch it because people shove it down my throat

mighty stump
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They’re remaking OP already

summer shore
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And still one piece has stinkers

summer shore
bold geode
mighty stump
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Its gone on for so long

dull ibex
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also anime tends to be way too long for to watch

mighty stump
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The jokes write themselves

bold geode
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They gotta be doing something right

bold geode
plain drum
fallen rivet
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AoT had like, 4 final seasons lul

mighty stump
keen karma
dull ibex
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I'm a big youtube series guy

keen karma
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actually what was their last project

fallen rivet
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Paldean winds lul

mighty stump
dull ibex
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Honestly speaking of Fandom nintendo fans general ones tend to be annoying

bold geode
fallen rivet
plain drum
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I gotta run, nice seeing you again Tofu AscCatBongoWave

dull ibex
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What is paldean winds?

fallen rivet
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S/V prequel anime

dull ibex
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Oh that sounds cool

fallen rivet
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Ish

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It’s on YouTube if you want to watch it

dull ibex
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Pokemon generations was fire

fallen rivet
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Yessssss

dull ibex
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If it's a youtube anime and it's short I probably watched it

mighty stump
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Anythjng can be a show if its done right lol

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Emphasis on done right

keen karma
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are you guys watching solo leveling

mighty stump
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Im not

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Im like meh about it

bold geode
mighty stump
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I read it when I was like few years ago

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it*

keen karma
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the animation looks underwhelming compared to the webtoon's art

mighty stump
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and im kinda over it

bold geode
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plays the isekai meme continuously

keen karma
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kinda like the blue lock anime

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blue lock imo did not do the manga justice

mighty stump
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Honestly I prefer manga cause I get to save potential tattoo frames

keen karma
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animation wise

mighty stump
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Slideshow time

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mighty stump
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I was so disappointed

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How do you fuck up sth like that

keen karma
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i doubt another studio would've picked it up probably because of a situation like vagabond and berserk

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wait actually no nvm

dull ibex
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Umm this is comp chat /j

bold geode
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fallen garden
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oh do magmar and electabuzz finally get eviolite

forest arrow
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They’ve always been able to hold eviolite

forest arrow
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They got follow me, and their abilities are static/flame body can utilize it actually pretty well

fallen garden
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is that the main buff?

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 466: Electivire
Type

Electric

Abilities

Motor Drive, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/123/67/95/85/95

Total

540

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Pokémon No. 467: Magmortar
Type

Fire

Abilities

Flame Body, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/95/67/125/95/83

Total

540

mighty stump
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yikes

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could be worse ig

forest arrow
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I say it makes them better than they’re evos

fallen garden
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ah, so eviolite magmar with follow me might have a niche

keen karma
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and like thats all they are there for

fallen garden
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surely magmar also gets will-o?

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 126: Magmar
Type

Fire

Abilities

Flame Body, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/95/57/100/85/93

Total

495

forest arrow
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Magmar gets helping hand and taunt

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 125: Electabuzz
Type

Electric

Abilities

Static, Vital Spirit (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/83/57/95/85/105

Total

490

forest arrow
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Prob don’t need will o, since you have flame body

mighty stump
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I mean

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I guess

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But do I really want to run either

keen karma
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its only gonna work on electabuzz

forest arrow
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Not like they’ll be game changing

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Definitely a niche pick

mighty stump
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Did yall see

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Iron Bundle 7* raid

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💀

keen karma
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yes

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perfect timing for raging bolt and the other dragons added

keen karma
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the only thing i imagine electabuzz being important for is shifu

mighty stump
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Just run Zapdos

keen karma
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if only zapdos got follow me

fallen garden
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or rage powder

keen karma
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rage powder wouldnt make sense

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i really like sinistcha

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i wanna try making it work this format

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it probably works really well on rain teams

fallen garden
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well think about it
birds are pollenators
so they carry pollen
zapdos is a big bird, so it would carry a lot of the stuff
and the static would make the pollen angry
so rage powder

mighty stump
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Freelo

fallen rivet
keen karma
mighty stump
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No?

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I’ve like shown my team with 0 rain and archaludon and sinistcha like more times than I’ve ever showed a team

fallen rivet
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Archaludon runs without rain too

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Just don’t use electro shot

mighty stump
keen karma
fallen rivet
keen karma
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one thing i havent seen much of is terakion + whims

summer shore
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@mighty stump low ladder is so scary bro

ember linden
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Mad respect to both Arcanine

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He will have his time again soon enough.

fallen rivet
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Please let me know if I should stop making these

mighty stump
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You will

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Its the ultimate Bo1 team lol

ionic shell
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my incineroar had fakeout from sword

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how do I relearn it on scarlet

ember linden
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I want to say it’s an egg move, is that right Tofu??

mighty stump
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Mirror Herb

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Probably

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Usually thats how it goes

ember linden
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Ah

ionic shell
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aw mehn

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so i have to breed again?

mighty stump
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No

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Mirror Herb

ionic shell
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oh okok

mighty stump
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Have Incineroar with a free moveslot + holding a mirror herb, then picnic with sometbing that knows Fake Out

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It doesnt have to be the same egg group or anything

ember linden
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That naturally learns it

mighty stump
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just make sure its just Incin and Fake Out Mon

ionic shell
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holy crap

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thank you

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i thought I was gonna rebreed everything

ember linden
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Nope

ionic shell
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also is fluttermane the weather team killer today?

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just came back from a break

ember linden
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Depends on the weather

ionic shell
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i was trying out drought +zard

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ember linden
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That’s fine if you wish to have fun, but in terms of viability and wanting to win I wouldn’t do that.

ionic shell
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yeah I was spamming that on sword

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kinda stuck rn on greatball tier with that team

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prolly gonna pivot to urshifu I guess PikaLmao

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or wait till venosaur can be used

keen karma
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Why tf does dewgong get fo

fallen garden
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.....i think it gets perish song

ember linden
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Yeah dewgong gets fakeout + perish ^^

fallen garden
#

well, we brought this upon ourselves really

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asking for dewgong buffs

carmine trench
#

Welp, I’m about to embark on quite the undertaking. Trying to make a team for Rampardos.

fallen garden
#

surely redirection + good defensive typing will carry you

carmine trench
#

I don’t have the dlc yet, unfortunately, but I was thinking of trying my hand with a mixed Stellar Tera set with him, but some redirection will definitely be necessary XD

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I know the game has gotten very damn hostile for it, but he’s my favorite fossil mon, so I figured it was time to hunker down and treat him as such.

keen karma
#

Would weezing balance with gouging flame work?

mighty stump
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Worth a shot

smoky hawk
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I'm thinking to take a rain team to Portland with pelipper, archaludon, sinistcha, urshifu

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Have to think about the other two mon

deep sparrow
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Throw tornadus on it lmao. Rain dance setter, you could run bleakwind/hurricane and have 100% accuracy in rain.

smoky hawk
#

The problem is taunt on torn and whims

fallen rivet
deep sparrow
#

Maybe oblivious Illumise? Or Tera Dark. Lol. Just throwing things out there, I’m sure you already know 😂

queen monolith
#

Is the stellar Pokémon type good on anyone?

polar pike
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Not really

bold geode
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Offensively it can work
Defensively not at all
Two experimental ones RN are maybe Rilla and Porygon 2

queen monolith
#

How does it work anyways?

bold geode
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Lemon cake and bread
Am I in a fuckin bakery rn?

plain drum
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Yeah

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Would you like to order something

bold geode
#

Anyways
Stellar works like this
So lemme

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So it's once per move type you get boost from tera

queen monolith
#

So it would best help a Pokémon with multiple move types?

bold geode
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So say
Metagross @ Metal Coat
Ability: Clear Body
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 68 Def / 68 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Bullet Punch
  • Meteor Mash
  • Stomping Tantrum
  • Protect

Here is a set, 2 steel and a ground right
If I use Stellar to boost Bullet Punch, it'll boost that but then next turn I won't be able to boost Meteor Mash with it cuz it's been used for that type
But it'll boost Tantrum

bold geode
queen monolith
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So one of every move type can be boosted by it?

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But only that move?

polar pike
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You get to boost each type of move once @queen monolith

queen monolith
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Ohhh. Got it

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So if I were to use it, someone like urshifu or Koraidon would benefit it well?

polar pike
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From what I've heard it only seems to be viable on rillaboom and porygon-2

queen monolith
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Huh I wonder why

polar pike
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Not sure. I watched a good video on it that I can link you to

queen monolith
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Wait. Only porygon 2? Not porygon z?

polar pike
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🤷 Idk what I'm talking about I'm just repeating what I've heard

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I haven't started playing competitively yet

queen monolith
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Same ngl

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal
Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Base Species

Terapagos

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Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos
Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shift

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/65/85/65/85/60

Total

450

Other Formes

Terapagos-Terastal, Terapagos-Stellar

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Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal
Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Base Species

Terapagos

#
Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar
Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Base Species

Terapagos

queen monolith
#

What weaknesses does grass/water really have?

fleet spindle
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I want to make a good team with Gholdengo, what should I pair it up with?

bold geode
bold geode
queen monolith
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But water resists ice

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Except for freeze dry-

bold geode
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Yeah
That's 4x weak then

queen monolith
#

But that’s really it right?

fleet spindle
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What moves should I have on whimsiscott?

bold geode
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So like Wellspring for example just gets fucking deleted

queen monolith
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And tera starstorm seems to delete it too.

bold geode
bold geode
queen monolith
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That’s fair.

fleet spindle
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Maybe something to stall if that makes sense

cyan smelt
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can smeargle use tera starstorm lol

fleet spindle
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Or do statues conditions

bold geode
queen monolith
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Is there a good Pokémon to team up with water Tera Cetitan?

bold geode
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Cetitan kinda got power crept

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Honestly if you don't know competitive, I'd do some research before getting in
Sounds like a hassle, but knowing some basic knowledge can help A LOT

queen monolith
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I have a somewhat team

gentle cragBOT
#

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

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queen monolith
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After these credits I’ll find them and run them by you. I just need a 6th team member.

fleet spindle
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I want like a support whismiscott

bold geode
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Whimsicott is support Mon
Prankster stuff

queen monolith
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I remember scizor, magnezone. ceruledge, corviknight, and I’m missing one more I can’t remember

fleet spindle
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Yeah pretty much, it's been while since I've been in comp so I need to remember things lol

bold geode
queen monolith
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Oh! Coalossal

bold geode
queen monolith
bold geode
queen monolith
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I’ll probably aim more for doubles then

bold geode
fleet spindle
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Nah

bold geode
knotty mirage
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Is it good to replace tornadus with whimsicot or just keep tornadus as prankster support ?

fleet spindle
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About 6 months ngl

bold geode
bold geode
fleet spindle
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Ye

knotty mirage
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Is there big difference between whimsicot and tornadus as prankster support ?

bold geode
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Ok so when paradoxes were the strongest in the format
Damn got some catching up

queen monolith
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Is eviolite duraludon smart at all?

molten oasis
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Coalossal?

bold geode
molten oasis
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Just give it av

queen monolith
bold geode
molten oasis
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Coalossal sucks

bold geode
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Coalossal ain't it

queen monolith
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What about weakness policy with steam engine and endure to guarantee survive?

bold geode
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Also welcome back Drago thx I kinda need some help lol

molten oasis
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It’s very gimmicky

bold geode
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So Drago if you don't mind, you take lemon cake, I take Lucky, sound good

molten oasis
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It’s fine on arma because of weak armor

queen monolith
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But if he’s hit with water it’ll trigger both and give him a speed, atk, and sp atk buff

bold geode
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@fleet spindle so iirc you thought of Goldie?

molten oasis
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And then still not ohko snythjng

dapper crag
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Pokémon No. 839: Coalossal
Types

Rock/Fire

Abilities

Steam Engine, Flame Body, Flash Fire (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/80/120/80/90/30

Total

510

bold geode
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Or no it was Whimsicott

molten oasis
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YEAAA what is it killing with that even at +2

cyan smelt
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couldn't you side proc steam engine with aqua jet

molten oasis
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At +2 it’s just a normal damaging Mon lol

queen monolith
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Aqua jet is still a water move

molten oasis
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Just trust me on this don’t run coalossal

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It’s not good

queen monolith
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So the team so far is scizor, magnezone, corviknight, ceruledge.

bold geode
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So here's the deal @fleet spindle there's a few ways we can go

  1. Just TW team
  2. Have balance with TW (Incin can be used on both
    Or 3. Do you remember MausApe?
molten oasis
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What format is this for?

queen monolith
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I’m thinking of going doubles

molten oasis
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Like

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Ou doubles or vgc doubles

queen monolith
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I have no clue- I’m new to comp

molten oasis
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Ok

fleet spindle
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@bold geode I remember mauseape

molten oasis
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Do you plan to play in scarlet and violet?

queen monolith
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Yes

molten oasis
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Ok that’s vgc

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K before we do anything

bold geode
# fleet spindle <@817628066020065280> I remember mauseape

So funnily enough
To recap
In early SwSh
There was a Justified strat
Justified is an ability that Lucario had that boosts your attack when getting hit by Dark moves
So Whimsicott had Beat Up to proc Lucario
Do you see where I'm getting at

molten oasis
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Do you want to play the upcoming format on showdown (a site to play Pokémon) or play the current format which only has 2ish more weeks to go

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Id suggest the upcoming but up to you

queen monolith
#

Isn’t showdown a computer Pokémon Battle game?

molten oasis
#

Yep. It is also playable on phone through a browser

bold geode
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If you don't Lucky, then Annihilape and Whimsicott
Gives Ape TW support, which is liked, and Beat Up to stack Rage Fist just like MausApe would do

queen monolith
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Ah. I’ve never touched showdown

molten oasis
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To test and learn yiu should

bold geode
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And Annihilape likes to face off against our good ol kitty named Incineroar which is huge

molten oasis
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You don’t waste nearly a much time building something in game just for it to go south

fleet spindle
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Ooooh I get it

queen monolith
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I got most of a team set up though for scarlet and violet

molten oasis
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um

queen monolith
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I had help with it though

robust sonnet
#

Is flutter mane good in vgc

molten oasis
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here’s the thing, your current 4 don’t synergize with eachother very well

bold geode
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So with Whimsicott, you can start with that duo
I'd go with your own Incin too cuz well why not in this economy, and then the other 3 are for you to look up and figure it out

bold geode
robust sonnet
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Yes

molten oasis
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And are pretty ok to just not good in the current forms

bold geode
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There you go

robust sonnet
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Oh ok

fleet spindle
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What held item should I give whim?

queen monolith
#

So who would go well with ceruledge?

bold geode
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Lol
Sorry if came off like a smartass but asking that kinda falls in that line for the regulars in here

molten oasis
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Are you sure you want ceru? I dont think ceru is very good atm

bold geode
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Yeah Flutter Mane does insane damage it's too good

molten oasis
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Like it can work

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But it’s not like, strong

queen monolith
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It’s a grass Tera ceruledge with flash fire

molten oasis
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You will struggle with it

bold geode
molten oasis
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It is pretty bad into the most common archetype being Tornadus urshifu

bold geode
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If Cloak, Steel tera or hell even Poison looks nice

queen monolith
#

Which urshifu?

molten oasis
#

Water

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Both are good but torn shifu is very dominant rn

bold geode
#

Like I saw a Poison Whimsicott somewhere and the sense it made

queen monolith
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I have one

molten oasis
#

Let’s, let’s start with shifu, sound good?

queen monolith
#

K

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It’s a water urshifu. Standard fighting Tera rn

molten oasis
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Ok. As stated before, urshifu is very good with torn

bold geode
molten oasis
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WATER

bold geode
#

Bitch what

molten oasis
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idk where fire came from fuck

bold geode
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I was starting to say lmao

queen monolith
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Water Tera for surging strikes stab?

molten oasis
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Yessir

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Then would you like to do mystic water which amplifies the damage of surging but makes you slower or do scarf which makes you faster but only lets you click 1 move

queen monolith
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He’s a hardy urhsifu. That matter?

molten oasis
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Your nature matters a lot

queen monolith
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I think mystic water sounds better.

molten oasis
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Urshifu runs jolly or adamant rn

queen monolith
#

But mine has +spd right now. Wouldn’t I want that?

molten oasis
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Nope

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It’s just not worth it at all

bold geode
#

Man at some point I gotta build with Ape now
Knowing the actual value of it
Like before even with sound theory, I thought it'd be shotty
But wow

molten oasis
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Urshifu is not a Mon yiu build defensively

bold geode
#

I'm honestly amazed with myself that I called it

molten oasis
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You build it to maybe some hit but usually you just want to build it fast and offensive

molten oasis
queen monolith
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But wouldn’t hardly be good then? +spd but -sp atk

molten oasis
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Just like I started the hydrspple Prima stuff and now we’re seeing it pretty common

queen monolith
#

Hardy *

bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
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Actually rn everyone did it first lol
I feel like half the ladder is Ape

molten oasis
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It needs A LOT of investment

queen monolith
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But his sp def isn’t being effected at all

molten oasis
queen monolith
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It was lowering his special attack

bold geode
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At least

molten oasis
bold geode
#

Remember I spread the propaganda

molten oasis
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Mhmm

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I remember that

bold geode
#

Now to spread misinformation
Spidops y'all

queen monolith
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How’s that look? About to change it to water Tera

bold geode
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Don't do that lol

molten oasis
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Lemon shifu doesn’t invest a ton into bulk as it misses out of important speed tiers and kos

molten oasis
fleet spindle
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I want to have a fast physical attacker, what should I use?

molten oasis
#

Urshifu

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Chien pao

queen monolith
#

Who would I put with urshifu?

fleet spindle
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Is urshifu allowed in comp yet?

molten oasis
queen monolith
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Let me see if I got him

molten oasis
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I believe

fleet spindle
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Ah

molten oasis
queen monolith
#

Would galarian zapdos do any good?

molten oasis
#

can’t believe I just said that I despise Tornadus

molten oasis
#

I wouldn’t add it to your team atm

bold geode
queen monolith
#

Which form tornadus?

molten oasis
#

Incarnate

bold geode
#

Do NOT do Therian lmao

molten oasis
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Prankster adds priority to all status moves

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Yes Therian is not good

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You do prankster, then run bleakwind storm, tailwind, taunt, and rain dance

summer shore
bold geode
# fleet spindle Ah

Honestly if you wanna be like informed on what is legal, just go to teambuilder, select Reg F as format, and have a look

molten oasis
#

Once we do moves and mons I’ll send you some ev spreads to follow

queen monolith
#

Got it. Transferring him over now

bold geode
molten oasis
#

Do you know what evs are?

summer shore
empty haven
#

I would like to use Serperior sometime soon if it’s legal what moves would it run other than leaf storm

molten oasis
bold geode
summer shore
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???

dapper crag
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Serperior's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Bind, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Bullet Seed, Cut, Double-Edge, Dragon Tail, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Hold Back, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Leaf Blade, Natural Gift, Outrage, Petal Blizzard, Pursuit, Return, Rock Smash, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Slam, Strength, Tackle, Take Down, Trailblaze, Vine Whip, Wrap

Special Moves

Dragon Pulse, Energy Ball, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Leaf Tornado, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mirror Coat, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Wring Out

Status Moves

Aromatherapy, Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Coil, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gastro Acid, Glare, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Leer, Light Screen, Mean Look, Nature Power, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Work Up, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Serperior.

molten oasis
queen monolith
bold geode
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No not like that lmao
Honestly hold up how do I

molten oasis
#

Yes stellar Tera would be, fine with serperior

empty haven
boreal mauveBOT
#
Normal Tornadus Therian
molten oasis
#

Ok

empty haven
#

What about 3rd and 4th move slot tho

bold geode
#

Why it so fucking ugly

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Also why did it show up so big

cyan smelt
#

protect and a 3rd attacking move

molten oasis
#

Giga drain

queen monolith
empty haven
#

Would glare be any useful

molten oasis
#

Yes that’s basically it

bold geode
molten oasis
queen monolith
#

Maril gives hp ev’s. I know that.

fleet spindle
#

Should I go tera fairy with gholdengo? Or something else?

empty haven
dapper crag
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Serperior's moveset:
Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Bind, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Bullet Seed, Cut, Double-Edge, Dragon Tail, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Hold Back, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Leaf Blade, Natural Gift, Outrage, Petal Blizzard, Pursuit, Return, Rock Smash, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Slam, Strength, Tackle, Take Down, Trailblaze, Vine Whip, Wrap

Special Moves

Dragon Pulse, Energy Ball, Frenzy Plant, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Grass Pledge, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Leaf Tornado, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mirror Coat, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Wring Out

Status Moves

Aromatherapy, Attract, Calm Mind, Captivate, Coil, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gastro Acid, Glare, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Leer, Light Screen, Mean Look, Nature Power, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Work Up, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Serperior.

molten oasis
bold geode
#

And Serperior would be a Special by my guess

empty haven
#

It’s best coverage is like dragon pulse

molten oasis
molten oasis
#

Dragon grass coversge goes to the goat

empty haven
#

Unfortunately but I like it

queen monolith
#

What Tera for tornadus?

molten oasis
#

Hehehe

molten oasis
queen monolith
molten oasis
#

What level is he?

queen monolith
#

70

molten oasis
#

Tf

bold geode
#

@empty haven probably Storm/Pulse/Protect and possibly Tera Water Blast?

queen monolith
#

He doesn’t know it already and it’s not in the remember moves thing

molten oasis
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Oh it’s at lvl 77

#

Lvl him up more

queen monolith
#

I might be here for a small minute. Do a raid to get candies

molten oasis
#

Well

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Hold on let’s get the team built first

#

So you can just get it all done in one go

queen monolith
#

I got water urshifu. Tornadus.

molten oasis
#

Next, hmm

queen monolith
#

That’s it

molten oasis
#

For now do you have access to a hisuian arcanine?

queen monolith
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I should

molten oasis
#

let’s go there next then

queen monolith
#

I’ll check rq

molten oasis
#

Hisuian arcsnine is an offense intimidate Mon

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Intimidate is very strong in vgc

queen monolith
#

I have one. Level 42.

molten oasis
#

Cool

#

We’re gonna use that

queen monolith
#

Bold nature though.

molten oasis
queen monolith
#

Yes

bold geode
#

Aight Drago imma hop off
I need to get some sleep

molten oasis
queen monolith
#

Which mint should I give him?

molten oasis
#

That was cringe asf

bold geode
molten oasis
molten oasis
#

did you break your keyboard?

bold geode
molten oasis
queen monolith
#

Urshifu. Tornadus. And hisui arcanine. What’s next?

molten oasis
#

Is your pc fine???

bold geode
#

Didn't do shit though but it was loud

#

Yeah somehow that laptop screen be sturdy so

molten oasis
#

Id be mad that guy is insanely cringe

queen monolith
#

I have an iron first conkuldurr. Any good for the team?

bold geode
#

But yeah I gotta get some sleep
I might fuck around and find out something tomorrow idk
Possibly figure out Annihilape shit

molten oasis
#

We can either go iron hands, which is an insanely bulky Mon, or rillaboom which is a fairly bulky Mon with grassy terrain and very hard hitting moves

bold geode
#

Nini

queen monolith
#

I don’t have rillaboom. So iron hands it is

molten oasis
#

Do you have the dlc?

queen monolith
#

Yep. But not enough bp yet

molten oasis
#

Gotta grind that out

#

Incineroar is a must have

#

For competitive

#

Hands is fine btw both are good options

queen monolith
#

Do I want iron hands with a relaxed nature or mint?

molten oasis
#

Mint

#

Adamant again

queen monolith
#

Adamant again? I thought relaxed for def

molten oasis
#

No hands has high enough def

queen monolith
#

K. Urshifu. Tornadus. Arcanine. And iron hands.

#

What’s next?

molten oasis
#

So we can do a few things for the last 2 mons

#

We can do chien pao, which blowers defense of all surrounding it which is great for urshifu and harc

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Lowers*

#

We can do fluttermane, which is a Mon basically known for being a nuke

#

We can do amoonguss, which is a fantastic support Mon

#

Spore rage powder and pollen puff is great support for your team in most situations

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We can do gholdengo, a Mon that sets up with nasty plot and then can sweep teams, great defensive typing too

queen monolith
#

What about chien-pao and amoonguss and leave fluttermane alone?

molten oasis
#

Well imo you need some kind of special attacker here

queen monolith
#

That is fair.

molten oasis
#

You could do either gholdengo fluttermane or Regidrago

queen monolith
#

I think I’ll keep amoonguss here. He has effect spore too

molten oasis
#

Effect spore isn’t good

#

Amoonguss uses regenerator

#

Keeps itself alive

dapper crag
#

ignoring the shellos, whats a good moveset for each of these

queen monolith
#

Seems I lost my fluttermane- one second.

molten oasis
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It tends to switch out once or twice a match if it can

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Flutter+amoonguss works

molten oasis
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You can do gholdengo too if you’d like

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You can get it set up fairly easily with fake out pressure and redirection from amoonguss

queen monolith
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Ngl I don’t really like gholdengo

molten oasis
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let’s do flutter then

queen monolith
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K just need to go grab a new one

molten oasis
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You’ll prob be suggested dengo in the future for whatever reasons so be open to to new mons like that, even if you’re not fond of designs

queen monolith
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It’s not the design

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He just feels off to me

molten oasis
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What feels off about it?

queen monolith
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Idk. The typing, how a scrappy Pokémon or something with trick and ring target can easily make it get hit hard

molten oasis
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Steel ghost is an amazing typing

dapper crag
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Item: Ring Target

The holder's type immunities granted solely by its typing are negated.

cyan smelt
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the only mon with scrappy is hisuian decidueye and it's not good

molten oasis
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Yeaaaa I don’t think that’s in scarlet and violet

cyan smelt
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it is

molten oasis
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And yea you don’t need to worry about scrappy at all

molten oasis
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Literally have NEVER seen that item in my life

queen monolith
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Fairy counters dragon, fighting, and dark. And urshifu is a fighting type

molten oasis
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You can add flutter it’s fine

queen monolith
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I just need to catch one

molten oasis
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You’re reasonings for dengo being off just don’t apply to vgc much

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As scrappy is a bad ability and nothing is running ring target

queen monolith
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Eh I’ll use dengo

molten oasis
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Well scrappy isn’t a bad ability it’s just on bad mons lol

queen monolith
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What ability for gholdengo?

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Modest?

molten oasis
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The only one you can use good as gold

queen monolith
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I meant nature. Mb

molten oasis
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Oh yes modest

queen monolith
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It’s past midnight and I was up early for work

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But okay. Modest it is

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What about amoonguss?

molten oasis
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Alr, here’s a paste to follow to build the team

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Everything in here is tested by me and a bunch of others

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If you have questions feel free to ask

dapper crag
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- [Grass/Poison]
Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Water

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Poison, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fire, Flying, Ice, Psychic

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.
Poison-types cannot be Poisoned.

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- [Grass/Dragon]
Resists (0.25x)

Electric, Grass, Water

Resists (0.5x)

Ground

Neutral damage

Dark, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Poison

Weak (4x)

Ice

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

queen monolith
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K I’ll look at that tomorrow after I wake up

mighty stump
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I'm confirming Electro Shot is bad

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Lmao

mighty stump
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It feels poorly if you don';t bring a rain mode

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And even with Stellar tera you kinda miss out on some KOs at +1

dull ibex
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Hello

mighty stump
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Damn its you

polar pike
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Caught a flutter mane yesterday, should I just train it like the smogon website recommends?

keen karma
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If you’re playing singles yes

mighty stump
polar pike
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I'm not sure yet

mighty stump
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If its Singles Ubers, then you go to Smogon.
If its BSS or In-game Singles, also use Pikalytics.com

polar pike
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In game singles for now thanks

mighty stump
polar pike
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Man idk what stats those are

mighty stump
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Use the Regulation D build, it should work out.

polar pike
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K ty

mighty stump
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Wait woops

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I mistyped the SpA and Def

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HP/ATK/DEF/SPA/SPEF/SPE

polar pike
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Spef

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Special efence

keen karma
polar pike
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Oh my god it's so cold outside my hair froze in 3 minutes

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@mighty stump so it seems like the teammates should be cresselia, tornadus, among us, and chien pao
What should I use for the 6th?

keen karma
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Thatsaplusone is building with smeargle and hisuian zoroark

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Thats kinda genius

karmic temple
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It’s certainly fun and quirky

silk stream
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Never 100% about evs. Will have to do some calculations later. But surely this'll be a good team if paradoxs are allowed. Speed control, weather control, terrain control, and some hard hitting tanks. And fire water grass core. https://pokepast.es/8e0a8cd95b53e205

polar pike
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Besides cresselia, tornadus, among us and chien pao what's a good 6th mon to go with flutter mane? Using it for the game itself not online yet
I assume urshifu would be decent?

abstract gyro
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does parting shot have priority?

bold geode
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No

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Unless the Pokemon has Prankster, like Grimmsnarl

livid leaf
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So me and my friends are creating our own gyms with signature typing and mind happens to be ground typing.

Rules are no legendaries or Mythicals and tera ground doesn't count, can I ge5 opinions on this since it's singles format.

keen karma
plain oasis
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hi! quick question, does the number of maushold (3 or 4) affect the effect of the beat up move?

keen karma
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any1 have a cc hands set

plain oasis
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ty !

keen karma
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actaully what does non av hands run

nocturne holly
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imo non AV hands loses a lot of its value

keen karma
nocturne holly
keen karma
tired sage
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or i’ve seen more booster than clear amulet

pure ginkgo
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anyone wanna buiild a team for me!

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(that surronds garchomp)

nocturne holly
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I’ve actually seen lefties hands

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well CA is also on sd hands

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CA is more common than booster tho I think

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nvm pikalytics says booster is

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Sitrus is also an option

bold geode
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If you're going SD, you got options
CA (Clear Amulet), Leftovers, I'd even consider Safety Goggles

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Tera Fire is good for that though so you don't get burned
Hell I'm half tempted to do Lum for that reason sometimes

tidal blade
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does anyone have a good gouging fire spread?

hollow niche
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Do u prefer mystic water or scarf urshifu?

chrome knot
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personally a splash plate kinda gal

fallen garden
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black belt urshifu personally

hollow niche
chrome knot
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yeah :3