Make a team per starter each gen
#competitive_discussion
keen karma
Yeah make an incin team
mighty stump
Emboar only
molten oasis
Nah too much work
molten oasis
Yeah make an incin team
mighty stump
Emboar the true Incin counter
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
molten oasis
Incin will just become slapable fake out Mon number #3
mighty stump
At least Incin will let us add another mon weak to Iron Hands
dapper crag
Looks so great
molten oasis
Incin would be weak to hands
keen karma
At least Incin will let us add another mon weak to Iron Hands
Araquanid/suicune
mighty stump
No it is
molten oasis
Iâm confused
mighty stump
Incin doesnt wanna take that fighting move for free
keen karma
Im running covert hands
molten oasis
Oh I see
mighty stump
Just the sustain it adds by being a dark type
If it gets DPâd
can be a bit annoying
molten oasis
Im running covert hands
Plz just, just donât
bold geode
Im running covert hands
You've lost to Fake Out many a time
keen karma
You've lost to Fake Out many a time
Sd covert hands max bulk
cyan smelt
Annihilape is immune to intim, fake out and parting shot
keen karma
Idk if ape will skyrocket
Personally i think it might
molten oasis
Yea
dapper crag
Incin won't care much about Ape
molten oasis
Incin is just that guy
keen karma
Weezing balance i think is gonna be even better going into this format
molten oasis
Incin won't care much about Ape
Yes it will. It canât fake it out it canât parting shot it it definetly doesnât want to fight it at +1
mighty stump
Annihilape isnt Dmax Kyogre or Zacian-C pre-nerf
Annihilape good option but so is standard Flutter
dapper crag
Yes it will. It canât fake it out it canât parting shot it it definetly doesnât ...
Nah
molten oasis
ok true but I still donât think incin wins against ape
mighty stump
It doesnt
Incin definitely loses against Ape
But other factors need to be considered like how willing are people to slap ape on a team lol
mighty stump
Defiant/Competitive simply doesnât deter Intimidates because you have a side slot to account for
keen karma
What is standard team again?
molten oasis
Me running kgb cuz kgb is a better Mon
Torn shifu harc pao rilla mane
I think is the most standard team atm
Rilla/hands
mighty stump
Hands/Mane/Urshi/Torn +2
dapper crag
Gholdengo been rising up last month
molten oasis
Oh itâs hands ok, Iâve seen lots of pao rilla
mighty stump
If not you just run Salance
molten oasis
Or moon balance
mighty stump
Hands is just free
molten oasis
True hands is that guy
dapper crag
I'm not the only one seeing Gholdengo everywhere ffs
karmic temple
N gas stops paradox abilities now
mighty stump
Gholdengo is alright, its been steady
molten oasis
Iâm running banded single strike idgaf about gholdengo
mighty stump
N gas stops paradox abilities now
It always stopped the trigger but doesnât stop existing Proto/Quark Drive
molten oasis
I also donât see dengo as much as something like torn shifu
mighty stump
I also donât see dengo as much as something like torn shifu
Theyre usually on the same team
Which is why I said +2
+2 has been like
molten oasis
Ik
hazy vector
Trick Room Toucannon
dapper crag
Been seeing a lot of Gholdengo and I play lot of games on my free days
mighty stump
Bundle/Chi
molten oasis
I havenât been playing
mighty stump
Moon/Ogerpon
hazy vector
I just realized Trick Room Toucannon would be really good
mighty stump
Heatean/Boom
mighty stump
I just realized Trick Room Toucannon would be really good
Probably not but youâre welcome to believe that
hazy vector
Probably not but youâre welcome to believe that
He's slow isn't he? Usually slow sweepers are good in trick rooms correct?
dull ibex
not exactly
hazy vector
His base speed is 20
dull ibex
you can't be only slow to be good in tr
hazy vector
I think
next stump
the operative word in that sentence is âsweeperâ
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
cyan smelt
His base speed is 60
molten oasis
60 my guy
hazy vector
My bad
keen karma
Torn shifu time
hazy vector
I forgot
dull ibex
all good đ
mighty stump
- Slow doesnât make you a good sweeper automatically
- You need to have significant strong offensive pressure through either coverage or one shot potential
cause like Dillon said
Sweeper is the operative word
hazy vector
He is a good attacker though
mighty stump
Would it function? Probably
dull ibex
tbh its stats dont look aawful
next stump
dull ibex
what is its movepool?
mighty stump
Would it be good? I wouldnt be picking it over Ursaluna
bold geode
Incin won't care much about Ape
NUH UH
molten oasis
Sick
dull ibex
POGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
next stump
RIP moon weezing lol
hazy vector
what is its movepool?
It can use things like Bullet seed and Brick Bread
mighty stump
Like in weather
bold geode
Are they seriously
mighty stump
But it never stopped Item
dull ibex
It can use things like Bullet seed and Brick Bread
meh
next stump
I think theyâre patching in that it works with the item now too
next stump
but idk
bold geode
Bruh hopefully it ain't item lmao
next stump
their game fucking sucks
dull ibex
Brick Break is good
not enough to carry the mon
bold geode
That makes Moon suck with Weezing now
molten oasis
Iâm guessing itâs saying the ability canât be procced with the item
mighty stump
If it actually works with item then weâve been playing the most bug ridden metagame ever
molten oasis
That makes weezing kinda mid
mighty stump
They just fucked up
hazy vector
not enough to carry the mon
Beak Blast Power Herb?
mighty stump
yet again
next stump
moon won thousands of dollars off bugs LOL
dull ibex
If it actually works with item then weâve been playing the most bug ridden metag...
tbh with tpci I would not be shocked
mighty stump
Fr
molten oasis
LMAO
mighty stump
tbh with tpci I would not be shocked
I mean
next stump
same shit with dozo back when you could order up on protects
mighty stump
Order Up
bold geode
Lmao yeah
Literally made a mid Mon a BEAST
mighty stump
Come on
molten oasis
Order up was such a joke
mighty stump
Beak Blast Power Herb?
Ehh, if you look at the alternatives and what they provide and what makes them good
molten oasis
The fact it would boost when you protected was wild
mighty stump
Youâll realise something like Toucannon falls short for a reason
hazy vector
Ehh, if you look at the alternatives and what they provide and what makes them g...
I'm just biased I guess
dapper crag
Incin Suicune def a pair I'm gonna have fun with so hyped
mighty stump
Like its why you tend to see a rotating door of the same 30 Pokemon
molten oasis
Suicune will literally only be good if it gets scald
dull ibex
I'm just biased I guess
and that's okay! I imagine it could be function but good is a very strong word
molten oasis
I think
dapper crag
I use it no matter what
mighty stump
It either takes more effort to play and find more consistent success, or just is too hard to pilot to a consistent degree against the metagame
dapper crag
Suicune is a good boi
molten oasis
Scald either raises or drops itâs viability by a lot
mighty stump
Thatâs the price of niche picks/favoritism
molten oasis
I like Suicune I think itâs a good support PokĂ©mon just like
mighty stump
Suicune is going to hate Wellspring
dapper crag
Gonna find a gimmick to make it work
hazy vector
and that's okay! I imagine it could be function but good is a very strong word
Not bad sense the mon shares the same stat total as Staraptor
mighty stump
Suicune has a nice enough niche in not being flinchable to set TW
dull ibex
Not bad sense the mon shares the same stat total as Staraptor
star raptor isnt very good either
molten oasis
Thatâs itâs entire niche tho
mighty stump
Not bad sense the mon shares the same stat total as Staraptor
BST vs Stat distribution are two very different things to consider
hazy vector
star raptor isnt very good either
Close Combat Staraptor
dull ibex
Close Combat Staraptor
its very mediocre
hazy vector
its very mediocre
Still can one shot
dapper crag
not entire imo, it's bulky with great defensive typing + good utility
dull ibex
Still can one shot
not good enough
bold geode
mighty stump
not entire imo, it's bulky with great defensive typing + good utility
Thats the niche, just barely
bold geode
We active now
dull ibex
also what is it one shotting?
bold geode
also what is it one shotting?
Your braincells
mighty stump
Still can one shot
A lot of things can also one shot, but how much of the metagame can it actually damage well
hazy vector
also what is it one shotting?
Rock, Steel
dull ibex
Rock, Steel
but isnt that true as most big weaknesses?
next stump
wait hahaha imagine the people bringing moon weezing to san antonio in 2 days 
dapper crag
Entei too and Raikou
dull ibex
I imagine this is a very pve mindset (not an insult)
dapper crag
can't wait for DLC I'm so hyped
bold geode
wait hahaha imagine the people bringing moon weezing to san antonio in 2 days <:...
God that'll be fucked lmao
molten oasis
wait hahaha imagine the people bringing moon weezing to san antonio in 2 days <:...
Oof
keen karma
moon won thousands of dollars off bugs LOL
Wdym
molten oasis
They gotta rebuild lmao
hazy vector
but isnt that true as most big weaknesses?
That a Gyroid from AC?
dull ibex
That a Gyroid from AC?
it is
mighty stump
Rock, Steel
252+ Atk Staraptor Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera-Steel Gholdengo: 148-176 (90.7 - 107.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Its not even guaranteed
tough idol
wait hahaha imagine the people bringing moon weezing to san antonio in 2 days <:...
Can't you change team reg up until the deadline
mighty stump
and Staraptor doesnât even have the EVs to run max attack
bold geode
Literally they did same shit with Indeedee but kept that bug
Why not keep the other bug
dull ibex
what bug
next stump
yes you can but it blows to practice with a team and then have to drop it
mighty stump
It wants max HP for Final Gambit
dull ibex
I have that one in my Animal Crossing
I do too!
mighty stump
yes you can but it blows to practice with a team and then have to drop it
The death of Weezing teams
dull ibex
what indeedee bug?
molten oasis
Weezing teams are super dead yes
bold geode
what bug
Apparently Moon activating Proto off of BE beside Weezing is a bug they're fixing
molten oasis
what indeedee bug?
The trick room bug
dull ibex
The trick room bug
thats not a bug
bold geode
Also Indeedee wasn't supposed to get TR
mighty stump
Apparently Moon activating Proto off of BE beside Weezing is a bug they're fixin...
Weâre not sure though
molten oasis
Deedee f wasnât ever supposed to get tr
dull ibex
if they added it to its tm pull it was supposed too
molten oasis
They added it cuz they wanted to ig
hazy vector
thats not a bug
Yk who I'm talking about kinda lopsided
bold geode
if they added it to its tm pull it was supposed too
Yeah because they accepted that bug
mighty stump
Itâs because they shared the den with M/F
tough idol
what indeedee bug?
Indeedee Female 5 star raid had TR, F Indeedee was never intended to have TR
dull ibex
Yk who I'm talking about kinda lopsided
im not sure
mighty stump
and M is the only one that was supposed to have TR
dapper crag
Walking Wake is gonna be legal I feel
mighty stump
Like it always has
hazy vector
im not sure
I'll dm you a pic of it
dull ibex
alright
molten oasis
If the entei form appears
dull ibex
I dont accept friend requests sorry
bold geode
They had that bug and instead of fixing it, they rode off of it
dapper crag
If the entei form appears
yeah entei is dlc confirmed
molten oasis
Awesome
cyan smelt
Wake is gonna hate wellspring
mighty stump
i mean of course the form is going to appear Drago
molten oasis
Draco meteor lol
mighty stump
seems a bit silly not to
bold geode
seems a bit silly not to
We're a silly bunch of people
dull ibex
they could wait for restricted meta for wake and such to be legal
molten oasis
Wake isnât walled by wellspring it just canât click itâs water move
mighty stump
We're a silly bunch of people
Who is this âweâ
next stump
we get the ban list for reg F on christmas right?
dapper crag
no no no wlking wake is paradox not restricted
mighty stump
we get the ban list for reg F on christmas right?
Righto
bold geode
Who is this âweâ
Kami
molten oasis
Thatâs so far away 
bold geode
And Kita too
bold geode
Of course I did
Cuz I'm a child
mighty stump
So kita
bold geode
You think I wouldn't have remembered WeWe
mighty stump
I suppose
keen karma
Depending on dokutaro bst it may or may not be restricted đ€
molten oasis
Iâm kinda hoping terapagos is restricted tbh
Idc if it isnât good or itâs broken
bold geode
Iâm kinda hoping terapagos is restricted tbh
keen karma
Yea
molten oasis
I donât want ti deal with it yet
mighty stump
Probably not who knows
keen karma
It loses all its value after this gen đ
bold geode
I highly doubt it'll be restricted
mighty stump
All I know is im updating PengWIN immediately
keen karma
Unless tera stays
molten oasis
It loses all its value after this gen đ
Ogerpon be like
mighty stump
Wonder if the Paradox will just be forgotten about like the UBs
bold geode
Wonder if the Paradox will just be forgotten about like the UBs
Not my Hands
molten oasis
I mean you lose access to embody aspect
keen karma
Terapagos based on leaks will completely suck without tera
molten oasis
Unless they just make it the base ability
mighty stump
Who cares about leaks
bold geode
Hands shall stay no matter what
molten oasis
Or give it and only it Tera
mighty stump
The DLC is out in 2 hours
bold geode
No it's out in 22 minutes
dapper crag
based on ''leaks'' anyone can leak anything
molten oasis
I thought it was out in 20 minutes
dapper crag
wait for the game and be happy
mighty stump
âŠ20?
bold geode
Yup
mighty stump
I was told 9
molten oasis
Thatâs what everyone has been saying
bold geode
Tofu what time is it for you rn
mighty stump
since when did it become 8
keen karma
Yeah its 8 est
bold geode
It was always 8pm EST
mighty stump
20 minutes ig
bold geode
Yeah
And I'm still in Taco Bell
dapper crag
Yup, the file is even scripted in the Switch from last update
molten oasis
Interesting
bold geode
Can we even talk about file encryption here?
dapper crag
well your games are encrypted in your switch if you wanna play them lol
mighty stump
Well itâs not really using third party software or whatever
So
Nor is it teaching you how
bold geode
Ok honestly I don't know how that shit works so
dapper crag
like the games are encrypted so you can't just access them without special access
bold geode
Technology idiot
mighty stump
8 am playing Pokemon
Next to your desk with the rising sun
This is great
I wish my AC was colder
bold geode
I might not make it if they don't hurry up with my fuckin food
dapper crag
bruh I'm 31 and I'm as hyped as I was when dota 2 released
molten oasis
Get it to go
mighty stump
No matter how much people disagree at least on content day
Everyones hyped the same
bold geode
I ordered online and accidentally put in drive thru
I go inside
And they're like
"We'll make it for you now"
Like wtf
mighty stump
my team is EVâd and ready to go
i should stock up on balls
Nevermind i have enough
bold geode
i should stock up on balls
You got......
brisk hatch
It's 7:45pm..I live near Washington DC.
Is dlc out yet??
What's gonna happen??
Is my game gonna ask to update?
molten oasis
15 minutes
dapper crag
What's gonna happen??
Is my game gonna ask to update?
your switch is going to heat up and die
molten oasis
Man thats gonna be annoying
keen karma
Man thats gonna be annoying
Not really
molten oasis
Tf you mean not really
keen karma
Porygon is balanced
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
molten oasis
Balanced doesnât mean its not gonna be annoying
molten oasis
That bulk with eviolite is fucking gross
mighty stump
This motherfucker
molten oasis
Bolt beam
forest arrow
Oh dear
mighty stump
Bolt Beam Recover TR
molten oasis
Bleh
brisk hatch
I've never played with smeargle or against..
What's it like?
keen karma
Not tri attack?
molten oasis
I've never played with smeargle or against..
What's it like?
CTS shenanigans or scarf spore
bold geode
Bruh bring me my damn food, Taco Bell
mighty stump
This thing gets STAB Tera Blast lmao
molten oasis
Progs new tr setter
bold geode
It's been 10-15 minutes now
brisk hatch
@bold geode I wish they delivered green to
molten oasis
Like ig you can taunt it but then you have to remove it
brisk hatch
Lol
bold geode
?
mighty stump
Waiting for Hyper Beam PZ + Chi Yu
molten oasis
And download is uh, an ability
keen karma
Waiting for Hyper Beam PZ + Chi Yu
Why hyper beam
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
brisk hatch
Medical Mari jane@bold geode
molten oasis
Leading shifu into porgon is gonna be bleh
mighty stump
Why hyper beam
Cause its funny
bold geode
brisk hatch
I live in the country.. nothing delivers takeout here
I hate it
Ppl worship 2 things here
Jesus and Trump
Trump over Jesus prolly.
Disgusting. Hahahaha
keen karma
Just 7 minutes guys
keen karma
L
brisk hatch
I want Snivy as well
dull ibex
potentially 7 minutes
dapper crag
Ppl worship 2 things here
Jesus and Trump
Trump over Jesus prolly.
Disgusting....
you talk U S of A ?
keen karma
6 mins guys
brisk hatch
@dapper crag yeah sorry
You can look up southwest Virginia
I live in the Toe of my state. Lol
dapper crag
I came to Merica as a young adult and thing I find the most is they worship freedom
keen karma
âMerica
dapper crag
it's hard to define Merica when so many states have so many varying identities, lived in Florida for 5 years then move to Illinois for the last 6
dapper crag
Rednecks are real people though
keen karma
âŠ
dapper crag
They work hard
brisk hatch
Racists and homophobes
molten oasis
Wtf happened while I left
keen karma
Wtf happened while I left
4 mins left bro
molten oasis
Iâm aware
dapper crag
Let's end that while it's not derailing too much
brisk hatch
We were discussing our living locals
dapper crag
I like merica the way it is
keen karma
Iâm aware
3 mins left dude
molten oasis
Please donât ping me every minute thanks
brisk hatch
Are you guys 100% on that?
keen karma
2 mins left man
brisk hatch
Think I'm gonna shower while it downloads.. I've been up to long..maybe it will wake me up a bit. ..
keen karma
1 MINUTE GUYSSS
keen karma
OMG
dapper crag
IT'S LOADING
molten oasis
Just wait guys itâs not gonna be instant
keen karma
IT'S LOADING
What?
brisk hatch
Not on mine yet..
dapper crag
molten oasis
Nice
keen karma
Mine is updating
dapper crag
no it's out
karmic temple
Donât forget to claim your free master ball
dapper crag
Worldwide release, click the update
keen karma
Update home guys
mighty stump
I know its out but not for everyone instantly
brisk hatch
Mine isn't asking to update
dapper crag
Yes it is, same hourd for everyone, click update and load
brisk hatch
đŠ
karmic temple
Itâs not it rolls it out like every 10-15 mins
dapper crag
it's out, it's loading for all my friends
mighty stump
This is confirmation at least its 8EST
keen karma
Home is don
dapper crag
DLC hype
mighty stump
HOME has an update
keen karma
HOME has an update
Yes
keen karma
And its done
molten oasis
Home
karmic temple
Probably once your home updates sv will get the update
forest arrow
I got the home update
dapper crag
Oh boy DLC here I come
keen karma
Home is done with maintananve
molten oasis
I CAN USE MY SHINY PRIMARINA
mighty stump
Time to get more drip
keen karma
IM DOWNLOADJNG
forest arrow
My shiny bulbasaur!!
brisk hatch
I hate u guys
dapper crag
You can download DLC guys it's out
keen karma
MY SHINY LITTEN
molten oasis
Iâm updating home first
dapper crag
Have fun !
molten oasis
So I can use my shiny primarina
chrome knot
keen karma
im also downloading
Pog
chrome knot
gib canada the downloaddddd
eternal kiln
Treeko will be the first pokemon I catch
karmic temple
Me still waiting for it to come out đ„Č
brisk hatch
Why isn't mine working I live on east coast
keen karma
Days like these i wish i had ethernet
forest arrow
Yess Ronaldooo
fallen rivet
What time zone are yâall in
chrome knot
est
mighty stump
Im coming home
keen karma
Im coming home
Emboar left you
brisk hatch
Mine is USA eastern time
fallen rivet
Iâm mst đ
brisk hatch
Not here
keen karma
FINALLY I CAN USE SAMUROTR
molten oasis
Shush donât say anything
mighty stump
Btw
eternal kiln
anything
molten oasis
Damn you got me
keen karma
I finished the dlc
fallen rivet
Ok I should prolly leave the server to avoid spoilers. See yâall in 2-3 business days
dapper crag
Intro being lit is now a spoiler
brisk hatch
Wtf fuck
dapper crag
lol you guys are always funny here
keen karma
Intro being lit is now a spoiler
Yes it fucking is dude
fallen rivet
More of a precaution
dapper crag
can you stop with the random pings pls
dapper crag
it's random
forest arrow
Aye letâs go I got it
dapper crag
just stop pls
keen karma
Aye letâs go I got it
Same
brisk hatch
Dude I'm on the east coast US.
There is no patch yet ! Wtf
keen karma
Dude I'm on the east coast US.
There is no patch yet ! Wtf
Be patient
next stump
I also got nothing yet RIP
keen karma
That probably wont work
molten oasis
Keep trying itâs going finally
dapper crag
this can help
keen karma
Just spam the update button
mighty stump
Just yell into your switch
keen karma
Or that
molten oasis
UPDATE!!!
brisk hatch
Where is the manual update?
molten oasis
UPDATE FASTER!!!
molten oasis
Where is the manual update?
Click plus then go to ti software update
dapper crag
Where is the manual update?
click button
brisk hatch
2.0.2 says I have the latest
dull ibex
Bro you want the primarily vgc competitive discussion to not spoil you
brisk hatch
BS MAN
dull ibex
Lmao
mighty stump
<#663757541343363073> Will NOT be spoiler free
dull ibex
Just yell into your switch
JOYCON JUMP!!!!!
keen karma
Vc anyone?
chrome knot
<#663757541343363073> Will NOT be spoiler free
muting this bye
livid vine
HECK I'm out and can't update
dull ibex
Spoiler: the dlc will have doubles
dapper crag
oh no DLC Iis out
keen karma
Spoiler: the dlc will have doubles
Are you serious man youâre blocked
dull ibex
Spoiler: its in unova
chrome knot
tofu guess what
mighty stump
Spoiler: It has Pokemon
dull ibex
Are you serious man youâre blocked
Good no more trash takes
mighty stump
tofu guess what
Wat
chrome knot
CHICKEN BUTT
keen karma
Haha
dapper crag
I don't know what to explore 1st shit
chrome knot
OOOOOOOOO 
mighty stump
CHICKEN BUTT
YOU CAN SUCK A BRISKET
chrome knot
AT LEAST MY IRON HANDS DOES DAMAGE
dull ibex
I don't know what to explore 1st shit
The competitive additions
Yeah tofu bad hands spread
keen karma
Good no more trash takes
đ«”đ
next stump
that just worked for me
chrome knot
what
eternal kiln
try going into your game and turning your internet on
This isnt working for me :/ It just gives me a message that I need to restart and update, but then nothing happens
dull ibex
Stupid idea restart switch
eternal kiln
I just tried
dull ibex
I want to transfer my mons
keen karma
Stupid idea restart switch
Doesnt work
brisk hatch
@next stump it's still letting me...dammit
mighty stump
Also in advance, a lot of advice competitively regarding DLC mons will be a lot of speculation
next stump
how do you like⊠know the DLC is downloaded
dapper crag
The competitive additions
no in the game
dull ibex
Yes
dapper crag
how do you like⊠know the DLC is downloaded
it'll show the intro
dull ibex
Explore the competitive stuff
keen karma
how do you like⊠know the DLC is downloaded
Rotom prolly
dull ibex
it'll show the intro
What is your version number 2.0.3
mighty stump
how do you like⊠know the DLC is downloaded
Spam the Software Update buttoon
dapper crag
What is your version number 2.0.3
I'm in the game, not going there
dull ibex
Tbh I'm just excited for the data mines
keen karma
Tbh I'm just excited for the data mines
They already dropped
Guys its confirmed
ââ IS BACK!!!
dapper crag
If you guys have troubles do this
dull ibex
Do we have full knowledge on everything added to make comp eaiser?
dapper crag
connect to internet from game, update settings via dlc icon
stop rebooting and click button lol
next stump
ayyy finally got the update
chrome knot
oh liek the bottom right button?
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New master ball gift
dapper crag
Do we have full knowledge on everything added to make comp eaiser?
nobody has played reg F yet, nobody knows full movesets of every mon
brisk hatch
This is such bs... I'm done
Nothing here
keen karma
nobody has played reg F yet, nobody knows full movesets of every mon
He means items
dull ibex
nobody has played reg F yet, nobody knows full movesets of every mon
Not what I meant
I don't care about the meta game rn
dull ibex
Let's go
keen karma
DLC hype is all we care
Fr im so excited
brisk hatch
@next stump are you on the east coast US??
dull ibex
I'm updated
dull ibex
stop pinging me randomly pls
Ping
next stump
central time zone
mighty stump
2nd loading bar moment
brisk hatch
I'm with ya girl! Wtf
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ITS INSTALLED
brisk hatch
Almost 830pm here
dull ibex
Yep that's normal
chrome knot
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Home has maint
brisk hatch
@chrome knot same issue here
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W
chrome knot
me when i lack any decency
dull ibex
You're in a spoiler chat
next stump
surely youâre joking
dull ibex
It's not a requirement
mighty stump
It looks sick
dapper crag
Noice Dillon
next stump
golden apple dragon goes hard
mighty stump
IT DO
dapper crag
Entei looks fire in the paradox form
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I LOVE DOKUTARO
brisk hatch
Do u guys think it's gonna be 9pm for me???
keen karma
They better make it possible to catch multiple of the paradoxes
molten oasis
THOSE ARE RAD
violet parcel
The update is a slow roll out. It might take others 1 to 2 hrs before they get. The worst would be 2 hrs
keen karma
THOSE ARE RAD
FR
molten oasis
except ||terrakion||
dull ibex
Hello mods!
dull ibex
Wow he flipped off drago mods ban him
brisk hatch
I have no update!!!
keen karma
Great đ
Bro its not that serious man just be patient
violet parcel
Got any confirmation on the apple typing?
keen karma
Itâll come
dull ibex
I have no update!!!
Lol this is normally how updates work
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OST IS DO GOOD
violet parcel
Yeah its a roll out. So just wait
keen karma
I got it first minute
brisk hatch
So do I need to spam or no
On the update button
violet parcel
So do I need to spam or no
On the update button
You can spam if you want. But i advise to just wait a bit before trying.
Spamming will just get you more frustrated
brisk hatch
@violet parcel thanks
gentle cragBOT
<@339371787005460481> thanks
pokeman1986 has given 1 Gen Rep to rekeos
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WTF
sturdy pagoda
is hisuian samurott a good competitive option?
dapper crag
is hisuian samurott a good competitive option?
It's great
Ceaseless Edge is just so good in singles it's absurd
Choice Band or Scarf depending on team fits the movepool so well
sturdy pagoda
Choice Band or Scarf depending on team fits the movepool so well
it has:
focus sash
sharpness
teratype ghost
252 atk
252 spe
ceaseless edge
sword dance
sacred sword
aqua cut
dull ibex
is hisuian samurott a good competitive option?
It's very Mediocre
The teams it wants to be on has better water types
It's not unusable but it's nowhere near optimal
It's not great for sure
I tried my hardest to make it great
sturdy pagoda
which one would be better?
dull ibex
That is team dependent
dull ibex
Oh my bad singlez?
sturdy pagoda
Oh my bad singlez?
yes
dull ibex
It's great in singles
sturdy pagoda
i don't have enough iq to play in doubles
dull ibex
That's not true
sturdy pagoda
it is tho, i have no idea how to play doubles, maybe i'll keep trying
sturdy pagoda
oh
dull ibex
I'm not familiar with singles strats so I can't really help
sturdy pagoda
i have used dusclops in singles and it is decent
trick room will o wisp and shadow punch can solo half the team in the best cases
at least in sw/sh
dull ibex
Trick room is not very good in singles at any point really
It takes too many turns to set up then switch
vague whale
I purchased the bundle where do I download the update?
dull haven
Updates are rolling out slowly as to not overwhelm the server
So if yours doesn't have the update yet, it's okay, just taking time
next stump
so many double battles lol
ebon flax
Is 252 atk EVs overkill for Belly drum + Last resort Snorlax?
And if so which Defense would be better to up?
(Not super competitive. Just want it good for friendly battles)
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Anyone remember where to get bp
nocturne holly
Where do we begin the dlc?
Uh if the games updated you should get a roto call or whatever and that begins the dlc
If youâre not updated theyâre rolling out slowly
smoky hawk
If youâre not updated theyâre rolling out slowly
I already pre-ordered it
Must be due to my time zone
I'm so far in the past
livid vine
Is 252 atk EVs overkill for Belly drum + Last resort Snorlax?
And if so which De...
252 Atk and HP should be fine for a casual level
ebon flax
Ah I was unsure if it was too much and wasted stats. thank you
smoky hawk
Apparently I had to wait until 22 minutes ago for my time zone
molten oasis
Yâall figure out how to evolve Dipplin or Dursladon
smoky hawk
I read something that says Dipplin needs to know dragon cheer to evolve
Not sure how it learns it
short nebula
oof why is it a 2 hr download for the dlc 
nocturne holly
oof why is it a 2 hr download for the dlc <:PiplupCry:669500461069500417>
It only took me like 15 min lol
nocturne holly
lmao
short nebula
ok nvm same
smoky hawk
Good internet
next stump
some of these NPC strats are lowkey kinda fire
halcyon sable
Uh which is better flygon or Scizor if I already have a ground type on my team
Other than that I would have no overlap should I go flygon due to dragon or Scizor for type diversity and steel which is rather strong
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Literally everything is shiny locked
willow vault
I read something that says Dipplin needs to know dragon cheer to evolve
Dragon cheer is a tm
true niche
Iron Hands learns ||Supercell Slam|| 
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Iron Hands learns ||Supercell Slam|| <:magisweat:669500457487564821>
Doesnt that require hard tr
tawdry urchin
QUESTION: DOSE NPC TRAINER BATTLES GIVE EV STATS?
bold geode
some of these NPC strats are lowkey kinda fire
Bro I've actually had to use brainpower
finite vine
How much do yaâll think will it take for showdown to add all the indigo disk pokemon?
bold geode
Probably not too long
knotty mirage
Is there anything from indigo disk that can be used on ranked now ?
bold geode
đ€·ââïž
mighty stump
QUESTION: DOSE NPC TRAINER BATTLES GIVE EV STATS?
Chill with the caps. Yes.
tawdry urchin
Chill with the caps. Yes.
ok but dose the pokemon have to win a fight to get it? like if it was a double battle and 1 pokemon kills a pokemon will the other 1 also get the ev stats but it dose 0 damaga to assist
pearl wind
i think due to the exp-share every pokémon in your party gets the EVs
smoky hawk
ok but dose the pokemon have to win a fight to get it? like if it was a double b...
Full EVs are given to every pokemon that isn't fainted
Even those in reserve
The only difference is exp, which is different based on who saw battle and who didn't
mighty stump
Guess thatâs been answered
summer shore
Hi chat
grave agate
Any theory crafting for the upcoming regulation?
mighty stump
Not yet
That's probably going to happen over the course of 2 weeks towards the end of the month
cyan smelt
do we know if the 19th tera type will be legal in reg f
valid widget
tera ice or tera water gliscor? it was given crabhammer in gen 9
but can learn ice/fire/thunder fang
grave agate
That's probably going to happen over the course of 2 weeks towards the end of th...
nice, can't wait to see what yall are gonna cook up
knotty mirage
do we know if the 19th tera type will be legal in reg f
What does this terra type do anyway ?
Is it like boost too every attack type and just give the terra pokemon no weakness ?
meager flicker
hey, I am looking for a double team to use in the new DLC, any recommendation (preferably with no legendries')
dull ibex
do we know if the 19th tera type will be legal in reg f
I am p sure it won't
faint nest
Archaludon is crazy
mellow barn
Archaludon is crazy
Would you happen to know where I can find Alloy?
faint nest
Would you happen to know where I can find Alloy?
No clue just looking at its stats
mellow barn
Ah
mighty stump
Would you happen to know where I can find Alloy?
BB Academy Store.
mellow barn
BB Academy Store.
Thanks Tofu!
gentle cragBOT
Thanks Tofu!
theipex has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
karmic temple
curse having to go to work
Mood. I had to stop at 3/4 e4 members before it got too much later đ„Č
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I am p sure it won't
Why would it not
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Cant
weary steeple
Me trying really hard not to get spoiled with the new pokemon
But also wanting to see the new toys
dull ibex
this chat is not spoiler free btw
lucid lodge
Do u think smeragle will be good in singles
next stump
not really hahaha
weary steeple
this chat is not spoiler free btw
Yeah that is why I am sad lol
At the very least, I am glad triple axel is back
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not really hahaha
you planning on running excadrill???
thats like the #1 on my list atm
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
next stump
cool pokemon
lucid lodge
The question is sand rush or sand force
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The question is sand rush or sand force
Sand rush
smoky hawk
Scarfgle
Scarf smeargle decorate new meta I'm telling you
It'll also have spore, fake out, and maybe tailwind
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You arent gonna be running fake out on scarf smeargle most likely
smoky hawk
There's wiggle room in the moveset
I'm sold on decorate. Scarf smeargle outspeeds even bundle without booster, flutter, and chien-pao
next stump
wait LOL is it true that Incin is getting knock off
next stump
XDDDDD
west solstice
Which ones better, reunclius, or Meowstic
keen karma
Which ones better, reunclius, or Meowstic
they both do different things
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singles or doubles?
west solstice
Doubles
keen karma
no idea
i would assume reuniclus runs attack moves more often though
- format isnt even out
west solstice
Alr
smoky hawk
Which ones better for damage
Reuni is a TR sp atkr
Meowstic was half support half dmg last gen
Meowstic has prankster
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no shit incin got knock off
it did
next stump
knock off and helping hand
dull ibex
IT GOT HELPING HAND???????????????????????????????????
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knock off and helping hand
helping hand wtf
smoky hawk
The glorious return of incin, back and more of a menace than ever
dull ibex
WHAT THE FUCK
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Incin @ sitrus - knock off, parting shot, HH, u-turn
why would you run uturn with parting
knock off parting hh and flare i think
smoky hawk
Oh yeah scratch that
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wait no fake out
tawdry urchin
Full EVs are given to every pokemon that isn't fainted
o...
smoky hawk
K here we go then
Expect this on 80% of teams in reg F:
Incin @ sitrus - knock off, fake out, parting shot, HH
keen karma
just give incin a fifth moveslot
no
smoky hawk
I'll be running that incin set at Portland in January
I'm sold on it. And probably scarf smeargle with decorate lmao. My opponents will despise me
dull ibex
no flareblitz is sus
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I'm sold on it. And probably scarf smeargle with decorate lmao. My opponents wil...
doubt it
your opponents gon be using it
smoky hawk
your opponents gon be using it
Maybe so
How about this?:
Smeargle @ scarf - max hp max spe - decorate, spore, TW, breaking swipe
dull ibex
I dont like breaking swipe but your on the right track
smoky hawk
sixth is TBD
I like metagross personally and I'm planning to use it
smoky hawk
Maybe chien-pao
karmic temple
Iron crown seems pretty legit
bold geode
no flareblitz is sus
Not really
Temper Flare seems so valuable for it lmao
dull ibex
no fire move is sus
bold geode
Actually nah cuz Upper Hand doesn't work off of non priority
dull ibex
also nah flare blitz
or helping hand over blitz
nah nevermind I think blitz is necessary
west solstice
Reuni is a TR sp atkr
Whats a good move Set for it?
And item for it to hold
Sorry if I'm asking too much btw
dull ibex
https://pokepast.es/75e5a2bd8e7c15f8 probably too much support
might just ditch smeargle
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might just ditch smeargle
smeargle is overrated tbf
west solstice
Isn't he really bad stat wise
keen karma
it prolly wont be good sash just immediately loses to urshifu or anything that doubles up
dull ibex
yes but that doesnt matter
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its also fairly slow
and ho teams tend to be really fast mons
i think scarf has a better chance
smoky hawk
Whats a good move Set for it?
I'd run it with indeedee as a partner, have life orb, calm mind, expanding force, focus blast, recover
Ability magic guard as it cancels recoil from life orb
west solstice
I'd run it with indeedee as a partner, have life orb, calm mind, expanding force...
No trick room?
dull ibex
all of its infamy is from gen 6ish
keen karma
nobody talks about it
that is the biggest cap i've ever heard
west solstice
nobody talks about it
Seems like Gamefreak does
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ok man
dull ibex
people are more focused on incin
keen karma
idk if you think you are some kind of innovator or something
dull ibex
no?
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but ppl are def talking abt smeargle
dull ibex
im talking about a mon good almost 10 years ago because it seems fun
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topaz for instance
smoky hawk
No trick room?
Have the partner indeedee be the TR user
dull ibex
oh my god you're right your highness im so sorry you are always correct
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oh my god you're right your highness im so sorry you are always correct
as long as you understand
dull ibex
people freaked out about smeargle for about a week then forgot about it because its not nearly as good as it used to be
keen karma
the format hasnt even started dude
dull ibex
two people in a discord discussing smeargle sets is not being talked about
keen karma
why are you making all these claims
dull ibex
shut up already
I dont care that the format hasnt started
I dont claim to know how the metagame will shape up
im allowed to speculate on what I think might be good
smoky hawk
Format will start on showdown pretty soon most likely
next stump
we donât have a ban list until christmas
dull ibex
im not going to put up with being told it hasnt even started every single i disagree with your speculation you are not the main character
dull ibex
we donât have a ban list until christmas
that is shame tbh
keen karma
i mean you keep saying this mon is mid and this mon is not as good
dull ibex
because its objectively isnt
keen karma
keep those claims to yourself the format literally hasnt started and it could be the complete opposite
dull ibex
it lost dark void which was smeargle's niche
no doyle im not going to keep them to myself get the fuck over it
if you are so sensitive i need to clarify its speculation over and over again you are the probelm not me
dull ibex
Screw dark void anyway. Inaccurate as hell
darkrai was nerfed for smeargle's sins
speaking of the format not starting yet
THATSa has a rental up already LMAO
bro is lightning fast
keen karma
idk how he ev's his stuff this quickly
dull ibex
viewers I imagine tbh
I wonder if he puts up his ideas to patreon or something and trades
smoky hawk
Or he transferred pokemon already competitively ready
dull ibex
he can't
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Or he transferred pokemon already competitively ready
home is down
dull ibex
home is down
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unfortunately
smoky hawk
Oh gotcha
dull ibex
until 1am i believe
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last time home wasnt nearly as long right?
next stump
iâm so bummed that the legendaries are shiny locked
dull ibex
I laughed tbh
next stump
at least thatâs what iâve read on twitter
keen karma
iâm so bummed that the legendaries are shiny locked
i watched an austin john plays video
imagine how my face changed watching that video
tired sage
not all legends are static encounters are they.?
dull ibex
its sucks ngl, but it is hilarious people were so convinced they werent
next stump
i have never and will never understand the point of shiny locking something like that
even if youâre gonna do full odds, let people grind
dull ibex
I dont understand shiny locking anything
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i was annoyed because i literally could've hunted them in swsh but i didnt thinking they were gonna be huntable in dlc
dull ibex
unless you literally arent going to make a shiny
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and i caught them in swsh
tired sage
ig itâs time to go back to DAâs for shiny legendsâŠ
next stump
yeah Iâm gonna have to do a new SWSH save to hunt in dynamax adventures
smoky hawk
I already transferred in every legendary ages ago
tired sage
iâm just sad the aura trio were cut from the game
keen karma
yeah Iâm gonna have to do a new SWSH save to hunt in dynamax adventures
we should do them together because i was planning on that anyways
and it saves pain
keen karma
unless you literally arent going to make a shiny
idk why they spend time making the shinies just to not release them
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well i mean they probably dont spend that long on them
dull ibex
idk its stupid regardless
smoky hawk
Is excadrill going to be good? I remember when it was meta gens ago
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i mean
it kinda makes sense for this gen since they are all static wilds
story wise shinies wouldn't make sense
dull ibex
tbh it makes less sesne
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how
dull ibex
static encounter are perfect for resetting
tbh I dont really care about the story reason
bold geode
Is excadrill going to be good? I remember when it was meta gens ago
Maybe
Maybe not
Most likely it's power crept imo but something could happen
dull ibex
its a recolor
keen karma
Maybe
Maybe not
Most likely it's power crept imo but something could happen
i think its gonna be good
dull ibex
excadrill could be okay it has a legit niche
bold geode
Tbh I can't really clearly see the meta game rn anyways so
Idek what all gets Upper Hand
dull ibex
we have no other good sand abusers