Oh yeah I saw that vid
#competitive_discussion
supple ether
Regenerator+lifedew/blessing+hospitality seems like a synergy waiting to be abused at a high level
Since its not stat boost based either, crits wont solve it (entirely)
Or so me thinks
rain cedar
Which is better Shiny Brute Bonnet on my Team or Shiny Hisuian Zoroark
I need answers quick
mighty stump
This isn't competitively relevant
rain cedar
Which is better Shiny Brute Bonnet on my Team or Shiny Hisuian Zoroark
It is which should I choose it for competitive team???
mighty stump
It isnt lol
Are you playing this for Ranked ladder? What's the rest of your competitive team? Whats the rest of the sets
rain cedar
Are you playing this for Ranked ladder? What's the rest of your competitive team...
My competitive team plan is Delphox Sylveon Vaporeon Iron Hands Iron Valiant
mighty stump
Sure, where is the paste
rain cedar
Oh yeah I don't understand that sorry
mighty stump
Doubles or Singles
mighty stump
Depends on what matchups youre struggling with
rain cedar
Depends on what matchups youre struggling with
I will chose Brute Bonnet for now is Brute bonnet good with Iron Hands whil double battles?
mighty stump
You probably also need some level of speed control with that team
Bonnet probably will just end up being defensive and I'd rather just run Amoonguss over Bonnet
Otherwise mirror Iron Hands/Lando-T/Urshifu can be rough
It does have a niche over Amoonguss being a dark type
Therefore Prankster won't hurt it from Torn, but Torn will just click Bleakwind
rain cedar
Otherwise mirror Iron Hands/Lando-T/Urshifu can be rough
I have urshifu
mighty stump
I mean
rain cedar
Oh
mighty stump
You came from #sv_discussion with a team that seemingly is built for in-game
And youre not running Urshifu
Im mentioning the opposing
rain cedar
My competitive team plan is Delphox Sylveon Vaporeon Iron Hands Iron Valiant
Well how about Hisui Zoroark with this kind of team?
nocturne holly
“Dry age drago” 💀
mighty stump
<@465881273454559252> <@372191031044866051> wtf are y'all doing in VC
Im pretty sure they knocked out.
smoky hawk
I dropped Leer on tornadus for icy wind. Good results have followed
bold geode
Im pretty sure they knocked out.
Yeah ain't no fucking way they haven't
I played monkey trap beat in there for like 10 minutes and just nothing
keen karma
I played monkey trap beat in there for like 10 minutes and just nothing
stole my entire flow
keen karma
https://pokepast.es/422dfd84e4cd1bb7 honestly i was thinking tailroom with roaring armadd on paper sounds amazing
chrome knot
what on earth are you cooking for urshifu
keen karma
honestly it doesnt even need fire tera blast now with armadd
bold geode
Yeah I know that
It's kinda not like the worst idea
keen karma
although this isnt the exact moveset i dont think
chrome knot
Like idk if it's cooking or not
keen karma
im not running scarf bcuz im playing off of tr/tw
bold geode
I know one guy who actually somehow uses a 0IV speed Urshifu in Hard TR and it's tera fire SD
With Mystic
keen karma
yeah thats fire
although how tf do you get a 0 iv shifu in game without wanting to die
that's strictly a showdown team
charred saddle
monke, the most weird set ive seen thus far is choice scarfed tera blast poison urshifu
keen karma
monke, the most weird set ive seen thus far is choice scarfed tera blast poison ...
?
poison is perfectly valid
charred saddle
it is so dumb that i checked if its water and not dark
the tera blast option, and its water
not dark
bold geode
monke, the most weird set ive seen thus far is choice scarfed tera blast poison ...
Well I mean
There were mfers in C running Tera Electric Blast on fucking everything for Gyarados
keen karma
actually poison is prolly better than fire overall
charred saddle
reg C?
bold geode
Yeah
charred saddle
didnt play that time 
i literally started reg E 
bold geode
Even though like
Just hit it with any Electric move it's not that hard
Unless it teras, it's gonna die
charred saddle
but electric blast sounds doodoo
bold geode
But yeah in Reg C, there were people who were so scared of Gyarados
keen karma
Even though like
Just hit it with any Electric move it's not that hard
Unless it...
thats just stupid then
actually
tera fire tera blast shifu on sun teams might be cooking
mellow barn
today for long time, I got myself some pokemon cards 
Been playing too much Roaring Moon EX deck that I kinda wanna run Roaring Moon on VCG 🤔
keen karma
cool
feral ledge
https://pokepast.es/280ab5559d22496c
Thinking about this, not sure if I’ll build it but thinking of this as a sandstorm team?
keen karma
https://pokepast.es/280ab5559d22496c
Thinking about this, not sure if I’ll buil...
this seems like iron bundle food
mighty stump
Bundle can't really deal with TTar great, but id be concerned about Gastro/Sandy/non-scarf Lando
Nothing here actually benefits off Sand aside from Ttar/Arcanine
charred saddle
chi yu flutter lead?
as the opposing
keen karma
Bundle can't really deal with TTar great, but id be concerned about Gastro/Sandy...
it cant?
what does ttar do to it
charred saddle
nvm theres Harc
mighty stump
252 SpA Iron Bundle Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 84-98 (47.7 - 55.6%) -- 78.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Tyranitar Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Bundle: 98-116 (74.8 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage
keen karma
wtf
charred saddle
holy shmokes AV ttar tanky
mighty stump
R yall forgetting Sand boosts SpDef
charred saddle
i do remember that, forgot that it stacks with AV
keen karma
tbh i thought it was defense
keen karma
R yall forgetting Sand boosts SpDef
do you think salamence can pair well with armadd on a tailroom team
or roaring is a better pick
mighty stump
I had a similar idea to running Moon with Psyspam hybrid wise but within execution it feels less great
If you want a hybrid team there was a released one with Weakness Policy Armadd
keen karma
which tourney
mighty stump
which tourney
near crag
Hi, I'm having lots of trouble with trick room. That's the team: https://pokepast.es/ce3ed95bb41d7d37, thanks
orchid falcon
ik Iron jugulis is bad
But i just wanna know
has it EVER got ANY usage in gen 9 VGC?
like in reg A?
next stump
Hi, I'm having lots of trouble with trick room. That's the team: https://pokepas...
Crunch or Lash Out in Chien-Pao can help
most TR setters are weak to dark
charred saddle
amoonguss can help in TR ig, tera water then spore?
mighty stump
it placed pretty well in a couple Reg B regionals
I mean it won Stuttgart
So yea
Tailwind/Snarl was very nice at the time
and not having the x4 weakness, it acted like a faster Hydreigon
Flying coverage appreciated
next stump
how about inside tr?
you just have to cycle protects and use amoonguss. That’s the downside of using fast teams, if TR goes up you usually get swept
near crag
is it viable to get a "trick room unsetter", or something that makes it not work, like endure?
orchid falcon
is it viable to get a "trick room unsetter", or something that makes it not work...
thow in Indeedee
next stump
the best option would be running a pokemon with imprison and trick room
mighty stump
Alternatively, get comfortable with resetting TR using your own TR mon instead of telegraphing a denier
That or having a mode that cna work against common TR matchups
That way you don't have to run a dedicated Imprisoner, which can sometimes feel like youre sacrificng other matchups
near crag
is tera poison sinistcha a good option? because my plan is to use it instead of amoonguss, but it would make me lack poison coverage. Is it viable?
charred saddle
why are you going tera poison? for tera blast option?
charred saddle
yeah i dont get the point on poison tera
keen karma
honestly i might just start running roar to get rid of booster buffs
near crag
why are you going tera poison? for tera blast option?
yes
near crag
Amoonguss doesn't run Poison coverage anyways
clear smog isn't the best damaging move, but it works most times
mighty stump
Yeah but are you worried about stat boosts or do you want real coverage
No harm in running Sludge Bomb
Since Sinistcha really wants its 4 moveslots for alternative moves
That aren't Tera Blast
Especially since its typing mainly beats Urshifu-RS very nicely
chrome knot
No harm in running Sludge Bomb
always ran this on my fungus
was fun af lol
someone on showdown told me to end it all and that the game always babies r words :3
keen karma
articuno is such a nuisance i might just use it on a team
fallen rivet
Rank 10 
sleek oxide
Is it possible for someone to make a rental team based on my pokemon showdown team?
next stump
that’s a lot of resources hahah
karmic temple
If you’re donating all the vitamins
keen karma
good av harc set?
sleek oxide
that’s a lot of resources hahah
I mainly just need the mons as close to the sets as possible, I don't really mind IVs or EVs as much since well I know how troublesome that can be
I just wanna see if it has a working chance in game just as much as it does on showdown
The reason I can't do it myself is because there's a pokemon on the team which I don't have access to since it's an event pokemon and I got the game after the event
molten oasis
<@465881273454559252> <@372191031044866051> wtf are y'all doing in VC
Sleeping
charred saddle
event mon? are you talking on doubles?
i dont remember any event mon allowed yet in vgc(?)
like at least walking wake or leaves
karmic temple
The reason I can't do it myself is because there's a pokemon on the team which I...
Which mon is it? Walking wake and iron leaves aren’t allowed until January if that
karmic temple
Fezandipiti 🤭
charred saddle
the draft team i made with fezan uses sludge bomb/wave (the special one) dgleam and nasty plot protect 
budget fluttermane
lofty tartan
You guessed it, Cigar xD
nocturne holly
the only thing it does is poison
ok so I think I’ll either cook hatterene or regidrago
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
nocturne holly
can hat use e force in gen 9 vgc?
I wanna cook clops hat bm ursa
why isn’t specs ursa used more? Cuz of not being able to use blood moon in succession?
next stump
why isn’t specs ursa used more? Cuz of not being able to use blood moon in succe...
yes
fallen rivet
Yo what’s a good support Ogerpon spread
Because it popped off last game but was dangerously close to dying
nocturne holly
ok so I think I’ll either cook hatterene or regidrago
Maybe sneasler
next stump
Yo what’s a good support Ogerpon spread
ogerpon-W?
fallen rivet
Yep
dull ibex
Yer
fallen rivet
(Also should probably actually properly ev my flutter mane since it’s been defensive this whole time without realizing it)
silver ravine
For a bulky offense team, would Corviknight or Kingambit be better? I'm leaning towards Corviknight as it's less of a pain to get, and I can always run Tailwind on it.
dull ibex
hm?
molten oasis
Red I think we both passed out in vc last night
dull ibex
I think fell asleep in vc tbh
dull ibex
Red I think we both passed out in vc last night
LMAOOOO
yeah I was woken up by people coming saying hi and leacing
molten oasis
Lol
dull ibex
then i dipped and slept again
next stump
For a bulky offense team, would Corviknight or Kingambit be better? I'm leaning ...
for VGC, Kingambit is infinitely better
silver ravine
for VGC, Kingambit is infinitely better
I just hate how Kingambit's whole gimmick is tossing a coin
next stump
what do you mean
silver ravine
It's a game of selecting sucker punch and hoping your opponent attacks that turn
next stump
that’s not really tossing a coin though
you can usually tell when they’re going to attack and also have a good idea of when they’re pressured enough by it that they need to either protect or switch
plus Kingambit is more so on those teams to dissuade intimidate pokémon and to punish things like Gholdengo
vapid hedge
Yeah sucker punch is not really a cointoss
That would be like saying protect is a cointoss
it will always be a % chance that you wont protect anything, but its a matter of calculations, not cointossing
bold geode
yeah I was woken up by people coming saying hi and leacing
Yeah I legit played monkey trap beat for 10 minutes straight and spammed Geometry Dash and just not a fucking word
keen karma
It's a game of selecting sucker punch and hoping your opponent attacks that turn
In 1 on 1s you can just spam it
silver ravine
I might've just been misusing it then.
Sucks that I already have a heavy ball Rookidee, but I have a lot of aprimons so getting a heavy ball Pawniard shouldn't be too hard
karmic temple
what does fezan offer
just tw and icy wind and chance of poison?
My good sir, we don’t run tw around these parts. Dgleam, icy wind, protect, and roost
nocturne holly
what do you get with roodt
I’d rather have it get koed after speed controlling to free up a slot
karmic temple
More time on the field after 1/2 icy winds you’re faster than most things
Bulky fez sticks around for a while if it’s not focused or one shot
The only downside is doodoo damage and praying for rng to land poison
I will say it’s fun to read a scarfed stomping tantrum into it then Tera flying
hollow fossil
So I fogor, if I have a power bracer and ko an attack-ev mon, how many attack evs will they give me?
Trying to specifically give 208 to one of my mons
karmic temple
8+whatever base ev the mon has
dapper crag
I need ideas, I want to build a nice team around Heatran as a win condition
unique gyro
How do you guys cope when RNG is fucking you really hard? I missed air slash, a 95% accuracy move twice. And this mother fucker hits every single hydro pump and focus miss he throws at me.
next stump
I think the two best Heatran teams right now are the Roaring Moon balance teams (Moon + Amoonguss + Heatran + Hands + Lando-T + Flutter) or the Farigarif & Chien-Pao/Dragonite teams
next stump
How do you guys cope when RNG is fucking you really hard? I missed air slash, a ...
in the long run it evens out 🙏 just gotta keep telling yourself that lol
unique gyro
I’m ready to buy a new set of joycons after I throw them out the window.
And a new window. The window was closed.
dapper crag
How do you guys cope when RNG is fucking you really hard? I missed air slash, a ...
You move to the next game. I keep track of why I lost games and sometimes you get haxed, the same way you get lucky wins when you get some crits rolling your way
Mental toughness is a great skill to develop in competitive environment
A lot of good players don't have what it takes to cope with high stress and end up not performing as well as they could in pro sport/e-sport
unique gyro
No matter how well set up I am and how many good reads I make, all it takes is one lucky crit fake out into crit sucker punch to ruin my entire existence.
Unfortunate
Doesn’t began to describe my series
This game rewards blind luck and nothing else
next stump
I think that’s just the frustration speaking
dapper crag
One big thing I've noticed is that I think I made the best reads but I could have done so much better in all my losses but 1 so far (out of 60 games total)
next stump
If you really do think that, I think VGC just isn’t your game
dapper crag
I play 4-5 games, review them. Really help improving my consistency and covering for optimal plays
unique gyro
Nah I’m just upset. I love the game tho. I love the toxic relationship we have. I enjoy the abuse
keen karma
willow vault
You know what I’ve enjoyed using recently, rh Salamence with roost, it’s really solid
keen karma
https://vxtwitter.com/ralfdude90/status/1729589107628601837?s=46&t=MNRLY0fyCI16n...
Cooking
dapper crag
Yeah CTS is what I play
fallen rivet
What’s ots
dapper crag
Open or Closed Team Sheet
fallen rivet
Ah
dapper crag
The real ladder is not using the team sheet
it's only a thing for tournaments and the bo3 one, I don't like having the option on showdown
I don't design my teams for my opponent to know I'm not Tera Blast Landorus lol
You get to discover the Choice Band after you lose one Mon
nocturne holly
More time on the field after 1/2 icy winds you’re faster than most things
That’s only against two opponents
I’d rather have a free slot after a tw/icy wind
dapper crag
It's a game of selecting sucker punch and hoping your opponent attacks that turn
You cripple it with a burn and you simply get ahead on switches, if they rely on Kingambit last Mon and you have your own, ez read
mighty stump
CTS is so pointless for anything beyond ladder heroing
Its like winning a boxing match with a nut punch before the bell rings
Pokemon is at its best when the field is level so the plays rooted in informational deduction display real skill expression
mighty stump
You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying
dapper crag
Paul Ruiz got it right
mighty stump
Stealing an advantage based off cheese is a lot easier than having to make solid plays when your opponent has equal information
karmic temple
If anyone asked me for OTS on showdown I immediately deny it bc I’m usually using a meme team and need the surprises to go off
mighty stump
I can make proper reads CTS or not and so can any good player
Doesn’t make the setting better relative to the alternative option
As if saying traditional medical practices in the past were fine because it helped when modern medicine now exists
dapper crag
OTS is only for tournaments/events, they say it likely is something to help with tera shenanigans
karmic temple
I can make proper reads CTS or not and so can any good player
if you’ve been paying attention to vgc for the past month or two i would definitely agree that it’s easy since most teams are copy/paste
mighty stump
if you’ve been paying attention to vgc for the past month or two i would definit...
Most reads come down to identification of wincons and safe plays anyways so its not even real reads
even without “copy/paste” teams
nocturne holly
I’ve almost been playing vgc for a year 😭
I took like a 4-5 month break but still
dapper crag
nice how do you like it so far ?
next stump
OTS is fucking miles better for tournaments
I ran thunder wave + trick iron ball grimmsnarl back in gen 8 like a little cheeser
I won every single game one in that regional hahaha
dapper crag
your opponent was adapting in the Bo3 though right ?
which is a nice expression of skill in itself
mighty stump
Might as well cut to the chase and check who the better player is from the get go
You remove the pointless variance over hidden advantages that even some more network inclined players can scout ahead of time anyways
OTS levels the playing field
willow vault
I like open team sheet, it just feels more fun. Like it’s not completely blind on whether my opponent has a proper team or just stuff I would never predict that then works, which is still on me to pay attention for cheese but in general I like open team sheet
dapper crag
so OTS official ladder when ? will it be the standard in gen 10 ?
mighty stump
Who knows
dapper crag
Who ?
willow vault
No-one knows but don’t think so
mighty stump
Its still better now even if it is a consequence of unable to lock battle boxes/teras
and VGC is whatever The Pokemon Company wants it to be
dapper crag
so if they don't think it's worth they would remove it
willow vault
Which is whatever makes the most money
dapper crag
or not implement it
mighty stump
Perhaps, but basing your opinion on what Pokemon thinks is worth competitively is a metric I wouldn’t want to follow
dapper crag
I just play the game
mighty stump
Judge the dealt hand through my own perspective rather than their decisions
Clearly
willow vault
I’ve seen what they did to splatoon tournaments, I am not trusting Nintendo to make open team sheet
mighty stump
Who wouldn’t, doesn’t mean people can’t view what is their preference for the hobby’s future
willow vault
The fact they decided turf war was good for tournaments is beyond me
dapper crag
I like it, fun way to involve the brain in Pokemon
Building a team for VGC is so rewarding
willow vault
Agreed
dull ibex
its not nintendo
dapper crag
making a team around Heatran right now
willow vault
Just question do any mystic water Urshifu run max attack?
dull ibex
yes this matters, Pokemon company handles pokemom stuff
willow vault
making a team around Heatran right now
Heatran so fun
dapper crag
yes this matters, Pokemon company handles pokemom stuff
Surely lol
dull ibex
what nintendo does isnt necessarily what TPCI will do
willow vault
Fair
dull ibex
that being said they like a mix of comp and casual
so ots is not going to happen on ladder
willow vault
I wonder what the gimmick for next generation will be?
dull ibex
and gimmicks wont go away either
and there not going to impliment stuff like showdown officially either sadly
willow vault
I think it would be funny if next gen the gimmick is dynamax but your Pokémon become small
dapper crag
Showdown is the other way around
dull ibex
as much as gamefreak is bolstering comp, pokemon isnt a comp focused game
dapper crag
They follow what the games are and mimic it into a simulator + some added formats
dull ibex
They follow what the games are and mimic it into a simulator + some added format...
what exactly does this have to do with I said?
dapper crag
Showdown is not official
dull ibex
yeah?....
mighty stump
Just question do any mystic water Urshifu run max attack?
Most baseline ones will
dull ibex
what about showdown not being official?
willow vault
Ok, it was for calcing with salamence
dapper crag
everything, showdown is not part of the official pokemon company from what I learned
dapper crag
but they try to be very respectful of all Mon statline
dull ibex
yes they mimic the games almost perfectly
mighty stump
and there not going to impliment stuff like showdown officially either sadly
The reason is as simple hurting their sales
dapper crag
and do all the right stuff to make it as if you were playing battles
dull ibex
The reason is as simple hurting their sales
I dont even want something outside the gmaes
I want a teambuilder within dlc or something
dapper crag
showdown is great ngl, you can play games and test your skills in fan-made regulated formats
I'm having a blast with random battles
mighty stump
I want a teambuilder within dlc or something
All they will ever do is improve your resource gain
Never anything otherwise
dull ibex
yeah thats kinda what I implied
dapper crag
random battles is so wild I love them
mighty stump
A straight up teambuilder is never going to happen
dull ibex
this is a want, no chance they actually do it
gimmick less vgc with a teambuilder is what I WANT
but that is never going to happen because pokemon isnt comp focused
theres a reason other clones do it and pokemon doesnt
dapper crag
isn't the teambuilder the game itself ?
dull ibex
I want to freely edit my iv and evs without a resource
dapper crag
like you can build your team with the game or I'm not getting what you say
dull ibex
and moveset
dapper crag
ha ok you want a battle factory sort of
dull ibex
I want the showdown teambuilder but in cart
but like tofu said its just never going to happen
dapper crag
You can generate Pokemons into the game it seems
someone was talking about that on another discord, some players got banned from an event because they did this
that's what you get for being lazy ha ha
dull ibex
we can't really talk about genning here
personally speaking with no judgement though, not my thing
that's all we should say
dull ibex
youre allowed to say that but its a hot topic that leads to discourse and its better to just not talk about genning
I do trade for my mons and teras alot
molten oasis
Anyone got spare water shards
mighty stump
Genning warrants no competitive advantage and the topic in itself is in line with things that go against discord ToS
dull ibex
you'
mighty stump
With us being a partnered server, we play on the safe side
molten oasis
I’m in a hurry my game crashed and I lost ALL of them
dull ibex
you are not allowed to premote it right?
dapper crag
With us being a partnered server, we play on the safe side
I don't wanna push bad stuff sorry, do I remove what I said ?
mighty stump
you are not allowed to premote it right?
Promote, debate, discuss
dull ibex
sorry my keyboard is small and i hit enter accidentally
mighty stump
I don't wanna push bad stuff sorry, do I remove what I said ?
Not necessary
Its just excessive discussion of that sort of thing, how to do it, etc
same goes for emulators, for example
dull ibex
tutorials on how to will get you insta banned from most places tbh
dapper crag
Anyone got spare water shards
I'm farming some rn cause I ran dry (bad pun I know) doing too much water tera lol
dull ibex
for emulators and genning
dull ibex
I believe tpci has gotten harder on players for doing it because its illegal in japan?
im pretty sure its illegal in japan
dull ibex
yeah that's why then
dull ibex
I think they operate with the laws of japan in mind
or im wrong and spreading misinformation
mighty stump
That’s because they were within the country
dull ibex
fair
molten oasis
I'm farming some rn cause I ran dry (bad pun I know) doing too much water tera l...
Well I need 50 in 2 minutes so
dapper crag
Well I need 50 in 2 minutes so
what ?
you can find rentals in this discord section named rental_teams
molten oasis
I’m in a tournament that starts rn that doesn’t allow rentals
dapper crag
also a lot are shared on CybertronVGC channel
molten oasis
No rental is running what I’m running either so
mighty stump
I’m in a tournament that starts rn that doesn’t allow rentals
Oh yeah good luck for Tommy’s
Pretty sure Spicy should be playing as well
molten oasis
Me panicking to get water and poison shards, hopefully I can get them
Thanks game for CRASHING
molten oasis
Yea it’ll be fun
dapper crag
where do you guys find these tournaments ? I might want to see how well I can do start of 2024
keen karma
Genning warrants no competitive advantage and the topic in itself is in line wit...
Getting legitimate mons is so easy anyways idk why ppl do it
dull ibex
im back everyone
dull ibex
why did i announce? idk
dull ibex
Help me test teams pls 🙏
👀 I can make it boring
keen karma
I need to play in the next tommy tuesday
dapper crag
what is tommy tuesday ?
keen karma
Tournament tour
dapper crag
Tournament tour
what ? tournament tour ? isnt tour short for tournament ?
mighty stump
Getting legitimate mons is so easy anyways idk why ppl do it
Irregardless of ease or time, the process ends up being completely arbitrary in every way
and warrants again, no difference
My personal stake is none, because of said lack of difference
I can have someone buy me a car or build one myself the end result still requires me to have a license to drive it
doesn’t change my driving
dapper crag
and having a license doesn't make you good at driving lmao
so much bad drivers on the road smh
mighty stump
So in fact the whole “lazy” point of the argument is also padded by arbitrary process when majority of the real work for VGC doesn’t even take place in game
dull ibex
and having a license doesn't make you good at driving lmao
so why does being lazy in pokemon matter when it all comes down to piloting a team
oops tofu is making the same argument lmao
dapper crag
so why does being lazy in pokemon matter when it all comes down to piloting a te...
you get disqualified for it when they proof teams in some events from what I heard
dull ibex
right but that isnt the argument
it being cheating doesnt matter
you are saying its lazy, why does it matter if pokemon is a turn based rpg anyways
dull ibex
I think that mindset is a little short sighted tbh
dapper crag
i think genning is lazy, I'm someone who breeds for shiny lol
dull ibex
that's good for you is my mindset
dapper crag
should just not talk about this though, don't want bad stuff
dapper crag
only way to get some reliably rn
even with the new easy methods, can't fetch wild starters
dull ibex
I dont bother with shinies outside of a few
dapper crag
a lot of good VGC Mons are easy to get shiny for
dull ibex
like?
dapper crag
a lot
dapper crag
gholdengo, iron hands, flutter mane, amoonguss, arcanine, iron bundle, roaring moon
dull ibex
gholdengo is not easy to shiny hunt
dapper crag
never talked about hunting them
karmic temple
You cannot shiny hunt gholdengo ? It was only available from event
dapper crag
just had to spam the event on someone who were resetting them
dull ibex
^
karmic temple
Sorry I just jumped in I didn’t read
dull ibex
that isnt easy though
you have to get into those which are heavily populated
and you can't anymore its probably the rarest shiny in SV rn
dapper crag
Rare ? Easiest shiny I ever caught in SV
dull ibex
yes rare
dapper crag
Litterally had to wait for someone else to find a seed
dull ibex
you have to catch and evolve the gimmighoul
the coins are a pain and its an event that isnt on going
karmic temple
It was only easy bc you joined someone else’s shiny raid ?
dull ibex
yes
dapper crag
the coins are a pain and its an event that isnt on going
takes like 30-45 minutes to fully reset the triangle spot and get 1000
dapper crag
small barrier when you consider I've hatched 2000 eggs for a stupid Rillaboom I haven't yet found
feral ledge
https://pokepast.es/77336b6d2cf8d9f2
I shared this team this morning, I just had a chance to try it out in Showdown. Won 4 in a row! I’m going to build this team for December!
dull ibex
https://pokepast.es/77336b6d2cf8d9f2
I shared this team this morning, I just ha...
good luck!
dapper crag
nice
mighty stump
Steel Tera Blast is so odd
Its probably preferably to take advantage of not having to deal with Intim drops and go Tera Blast Fly
dull ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4JV5KmjnxQ so easy pokemon isnt skill based at all 😎
dapper crag
some games do feel not skill bases lol
feral ledge
I am thinking about different Tera types but if I Tera out of steel, ground, or rock it loses its sandstorm benefits
mighty stump
Especially since you have 3 other mons with Steel coverage
dapper crag
they end so quick sometimes
mighty stump
I am thinking about different Tera types but if I Tera out of steel, ground, or ...
Only Rock has any true benefit
dull ibex
I think with pure HO the skill is leading right
mighty stump
Avoiding the 1/16 chip isn’t worth losing out on other benefits imo
mighty stump
TTar teams don’t need to all be immune to sand
mighty stump
sorry for clogging chat tofu
I don’t care, no relevant topic was attempted to be broached
keen karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4JV5KmjnxQ so easy pokemon isnt skill based at ...
Harc is probably one of the higher skill gap mons in all seriousness regardless of ability
feral ledge
True any suggestions? Pikalytics don’t give Tera analytics
keen karma
I wanna run pult
dull ibex
this team specifically doyle is meant to be easy as sin to run
dapper crag
True any suggestions? Pikalytics don’t give Tera analytics
they do, switch to showdown
dull ibex
it kinda is relative
mighty stump
True any suggestions? Pikalytics don’t give Tera analytics
Fly
keen karma
The best way to make harc easy to run is to run rock blast
dapper crag
mighty stump
Or some run defensive Water and your Tera Blast becomes U-Turn. But CA is meant to account for opposing Landos so your Tera Blast remains to do a significant amount
dull ibex
The best way to make harc easy to run is to run rock blast
wtf is this suggestion
rock slide over and over and over is simple enough lmao
dapper crag
look tera types on pikalytics
keen karma
? Where did you get the %
dapper crag
? Where did you get the %
pikalytics
nocturne holly
nice how do you like it so far ?
It’s a blast once you get the hand of it
dapper crag
yeah showdown is not a pokemon so no tera xD
dull ibex
I meant that ho is easy to run relative to balance or stall
but in of itself takes a bit of vgc knowledge
dull ibex
yes thank you linear
nocturne holly
I thought you meant that as a substitute of meta
dull ibex
different skills are used imo
dapper crag
yeah vgc is linear
nocturne holly
linear
dapper crag
i find it very linear
keen karma
yeah vgc is linear
No
dull ibex
this team is designed by THATSA to be easy to use for a new player and have nothing but good leads
so your gameplans are often setup in team select imo
dull ibex
i find it very linear
you are probably playing bad players
dull ibex
????????
mighty stump
Its a subjective thing Red
dapper crag
i doubt you can judge who I play xD
keen karma
Guys lets chill
dull ibex
I just dont know what he meant by learning is linear
dapper crag
''progressing from one stage to another in a single series of steps; sequential''
mighty stump
In general however one accrues knowledge is subjective
dull ibex
alright
dapper crag
i put meta mons together
dull ibex
In general however one accrues knowledge is subjective
fair
mighty stump
i doubt you can judge who I play xD
But this is also mildly unnecessary
dapper crag
i record my games (especially why I lose) with who I brought
mighty stump
So in general, lets just move on
dapper crag
I review my games after 4-5
dull ibex
I think harc has been a missing piece for HO
it feels so good to run idk what it is
Im glad ive been enjoying HO again
dapper crag
But this is also mildly unnecessary
saying I play bad players felt unnecessary ya, made it to master ball in 14 games
mighty stump
Mayhaps
dull ibex
tbh I just meant lower ranked games are more linear because less expirenced players
mighty stump
There is also some truth to low quality matches when you’re not in the top 1000 or so of Masterball
keen karma
saying I play bad players felt unnecessary ya, made it to master ball in 14 game...
Uhh
mighty stump
So bad is the wrong term
dull ibex
I worded it alot more hostile then I meant
keen karma
Im gonna run 2-2-2 to reach top 500
mighty stump
I worded it alot more hostile then I meant
Sometimes you gotta chill more with discussions
dull ibex
im also in lower rated games atm
dull ibex
Sometimes you gotta chill more with discussions
Yeah I was not as angry as I came across
dull ibex
I was chilling but I see I came across really mad
keen karma
Do evs transfer through home
dull ibex
I don't words well
dull ibex
EVs do transfer through home
dapper crag
vgc is fun, good vibes
mighty stump
Movesets don’t
dull ibex
vgc is fun, good vibes
yeah its by far my favorite ranked game ive ever played
dull ibex
only game I take fully seriously
karmic temple
San Antonio regional attendees are we excited or ?
keen karma
They should
For some odd reason when i was trying to speedrun ioa my eviolite on kubfu didnt transfer
dapper crag
you should try chess
mighty stump
For some odd reason when i was trying to speedrun ioa my eviolite on kubfu didnt...
You cant transfer items through Home
dapper crag
only games, not teambuilding
dapper crag
it's for anyone
nocturne holly
you should try chess
Chess is fucking complicated
dapper crag
chess is the ultimate brain game
nocturne holly
it’s so much to take in
Like I have decent intuition in chess I would say
keen karma
I luv chess
nocturne holly
1v1 me nerd
keen karma
I dont find chess approachable
Its decently approachable but you have to put time into it
mighty stump
I love the Spaghetti 2-1 Defense
dull ibex
im not willing too personally
mighty stump
Or whatever
nocturne holly
see like wtf does that mean
nocturne holly
it’s very hard to get into
dull ibex
tofu is a giga nerd
nocturne holly
from an outside perspective
mighty stump
The Beethoven Assassination
Mfers when they didn’t Beethoven Assassination my Great Wall of France
dull ibex
im also just not smart enough for chess
keen karma
I love the Spaghetti 2-1 Defense
I love Sicillian defense and english opening
dapper crag
want a real fun name, fried liver attack
mighty stump
I just play Fool’s Mate and win and refuse to elaborate
nocturne holly
I love Sicillian defense and english opening
see wtf does that mean
how tf do I do that shit
keen karma
see wtf does that mean
how tf do I do that shit
Chess openings
mighty stump
I just play TFT
dull ibex
tofu you should teach me TFT
dapper crag
it's game theory basically
dull ibex
BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY
dapper crag
like calling hands flutter opening barbaric intents
keen karma
😬
dull ibex
based
nocturne holly
And it feels very adaptive
like how do you set up an endgame when each games is so wildly different
what is tft
dull ibex
team fight tactics
nocturne holly
ah
dull ibex
league of legends autochess
mighty stump
Play league of legends immediately become chad
LoL isn’t it for me
dull ibex
im definitely more of a unite player
mighty stump
Inplayed for a long enough tome
keen karma
Its community isnt even that toxic in my book
dapper crag
BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY
it's specifically game theory, which is a pretty well defined thing not being too nerdy
mighty stump
I prefer my peace with agency
nocturne holly
I wanna get into Val
mighty stump
TFT is better since im in sole control
nocturne holly
Val looks fun
keen karma
I wanna get into Val
Not worth
Its like 1 new thing every few months and shit games until you can carry yourself
dull ibex
tofu im thinking about swapping back to absurdly bulky flutter
keen karma
Its depression simulator
nocturne holly
Its like 1 new thing every few months and shit games until you can carry yoursel...
wbt fornititeb
Fortnite looks like shit
next stump
league ranked community is prettyyyyy ass
keen karma
wbt fornititeb
Fortnite is fun
mighty stump
tofu im thinking about swapping back to absurdly bulky flutter
The godspread i made for Reg B remained relevant til now
dapper crag
also on another topic, gonna look to interview competitive players for my thesis in about 2 months or so
keen karma
league ranked community is prettyyyyy ass
Better than val i can guarantee
dull ibex
fortnite is the best shooter on the market imo
next stump
it feels like most games have a rager or griefer on one side
dapper crag
which is about game theory in turn based games
keen karma
Actually val and lol prolly have the exact same types of communities
dull ibex
fortnite is the best shooter on the market imo
solid mechanically, excellent support update wise, hella accessible, gyro aim and flick stick
nocturne holly
ok but it’s Fortnite
dull ibex
I think epic games deserved the truck load of money they make from it
nocturne holly
like
it’s Fortnite
mighty stump
Fortnite is a game more hated for its community and association rather than the game itself
keen karma
I mean fortnite is fun
dull ibex
he community is annoying as shit
keen karma
Fortnite comm isnt even that bad compared to most games
nocturne holly
building looks weird
dull ibex
alot of kids
nocturne holly
Never played it tho
dull ibex
zero build is my main game mode
dapper crag
aren't kids playing pokemon too ?
mighty stump
I don’t play, but I know about no build mode
dull ibex
pokemon leans adult iirc
nocturne holly
vgc does
keen karma
alot of kids
I find this to be the most interesting part
mighty stump
Pokemon is meant for all ages
dull ibex
or atleast teen to adults
next stump
aren't kids playing pokemon too ?
not really in america in my experience
keen karma
They’re surprisingly not toxic
dapper crag
cause if you look at demographics for fortnite, young adults do play it a lot
nocturne holly
Vgc player base is pretty w
keen karma
Yeah like i said not really that bad
dull ibex
r6 and cod are vastly worse then fortnite
dapper crag
2/3 of fortnite playerbase is 18-24
dull ibex
wait is it really?
dapper crag
well from the data I know yes
dull ibex
is it because the playerbase is growing up with it?
dapper crag
might be +/- 5-10 % but still would be 55-75 %
dull ibex
I still think ITS ALOT of kids
dull ibex
but because fortnite is also still one of the biggest games rn
mighty stump
So
dapper crag
like kids are on roblox
dull ibex
ever really, one of the biggest ever
mighty stump
Anything free is gonna have a bigger demographic of kids too
Valo/Fortnite/League whatever
dull ibex
Im sad I hated fortnite for so long tbh
I was mad it was popular and kids enjoyed it too
now that i play sometimes its genuinely a fun shooter
nocturne holly
Im sad I hated fortnite for so long tbh
I still hate it
I haven’t played it just has a bad rep which keeps me from playing it
keen karma
Valo/Fortnite/League whatever
Micro transactions is the meta rn
nocturne holly
Fr
dull ibex
yeah I stopped being a gatekeepy ass, and learned to just enjoy a game for the game
it took me way too long to learn that
nocturne holly
Yea I can see that
dapper crag
I don't want to school anyone about this, but I know my demographics pretty darn well since I'm submitting prep for my thesis about that... and fortnite is one of the most played games in the world. As of september 23, Roblox is where you find most kids by a huge gap
nocturne holly
it’s not a game its an experience 🤓
The marketing provides to a huge variety of ages
They shifted from games to “experiences” and voice chat
nocturne holly
go home nerd /j
dull ibex
a damn good one too, battlebit is the best shooter of this year and was made in roblox
nocturne holly
some graphics are really fucking good
dapper crag
no matter how you approach the model, it still outshines every other ''engine''
nocturne holly
frontlines is insane
I’m personally a big paintball pro 🤷♂️
dull ibex
I dont play roblox unless its multiplayer fnaf with a buddy of mine
dapper crag
kids gaming on fortnite is a big big myth
dapper crag
what's their age ?
dull ibex
almost 13
so I assume he is hanging out with kids around that age
Oh btw I use kid and minor interchangably
its not correct but I wont stop lmao
I do know plenty of adults around my age play fortnite as well though
nocturne holly
baby brother made me think like 7 😭
dull ibex
some of my friends play it too
dull ibex
baby brother made me think like 7 😭
im 25
nocturne holly
Fortnite caters to a large audience e
dull ibex
tbf alot of kids play call of duty and that is catering to adults specifically
I dont take age rating into account
nocturne holly
I recently just moved and the outlook on Fortnite here is way different
like it’s heavily liked here
Where I was before it was really hated on
dapper crag
I dont take age rating into account
they certainly don't themself lol
dull ibex
true that
dapper crag
like if age rating ever stopped a kid from playing a ''mature'' game
dull ibex
I played gta and cod as a child
they were not made for me for sure LMAO
and now I play children's games sometimes LMAO
oh man speaking of shooters
Splatoon is also one of the best shooters on the market
criminally underappericated
dapper crag
the game that has been the most surprising from game theory analysis recent few years is league of legends
I think VGC/Smogon has some potential hidden
dull ibex
elaborate?
dapper crag
You know how they make tiers for specific metagames that dates like... 10-15 years+ sometimes
dull ibex
mhm
dapper crag
Why is that ? What's the reasoning behind valuing that Pokemon as a S+ and that Pokemon as an A
There has to be some metrics defining them, even if they're not clearly layed out
dull ibex
oh its usage
dapper crag
no cause you can ask different players (with proper mmr/results backing them)
and they will value different things in how they rate specific Mons (I'm not talking about a specific tier, just all of them)
game theory is a broader approach, you're not looking at only one format, it's the whole game
dull ibex
oh yeah vgc and smogon are super super subjective it is interesting
dapper crag
but you end up with same results asking most players
so you can take out the subjectivity (most of it) if you gather enough data for a specific format/metagame through metrics, analysis, opinions and theory
keen karma
time to run talon
dapper crag
I'm still awaiting approval by my supervisor, but if I get the green light, 2024 is gonna be a heck of a year for me. Gonna try and interview a bunch of competitive players from selected formats (including VGC)
dull ibex
based
nocturne holly
the only thing cooking is me and my fucking frozen chicken patties
put me on master chef goddamn
karmic temple
@nocturne holly GOOD LUCK AGAINST TIMMY
was about to workout then saw you pop on his stream
summer shore
Why is that ? What's the reasoning behind valuing that Pokemon as a S+ and that ...
Tournament basis
Old metagames are mostly still active in tournament scene
And the metagames are still evolving
dapper crag
Yeah tournaments can have them evolve a bit if they're really old from what I see
but I mean, you can find static tierings from like a decade ago on smogon forums right
That is where I want to introduce the concepts of game theory, what values are there in a metagame for Pokemon competitive ecosystem
karmic temple
Oh mb I saw him battle spicy cigar for the tour tonight and thought it was you
nocturne holly
yea that’s spicy
bold geode
Tournament basis
@summer shore
fallen rivet
Went from 2 wins to 4 wins away from mb tier 
dapper crag
Went from 2 wins to 4 wins away from mb tier <:RowletCrying:702513730201714819>
Oh no don't say it like this, you need them wins straight up, play to your best ability instead and it's gonna come one day 🙂
nocturne holly
my season record is 18-3 rn
fallen rivet
Oh no don't say it like this, you need them wins straight up, play to your best ...
thanks. That helps :)
gentle cragBOT
thanks. That helps :)
wafflefries.787b has given 1 Gen Rep to raymeta
fallen rivet
I'm at 50 games with 29(?) wins so idk what my streak is
dapper crag
I'm at 50 games with 29(?) wins so idk what my streak is
If you're 4 wins away that means you're like bottom of the progression bar right, so saying you need 4 wins means you need them in a row. If you go 4 wins 4 loss in alternance you're not going Master Ball is what I'm saying.
fallen rivet
yeah basically
summer shore
<@177012687111323649>
Winton
fallen rivet
If you're 4 wins away that means you're like bottom of the progression bar right...
So how do I progress better then
dapper crag
So how do I progress better then
Win more, lose less
But don't think of it as you NEED to win
next stump
So how do I progress better then
were you the player that’s just playing for the masters ribbon on their pokemon
or am I mistaking you for someone else
fallen rivet
were you the player that’s just playing for the masters ribbon on their pokemon
Nah I’m doing it for fun
next stump
ah okay, my bad then 🙂 what team are you using?
fallen rivet
lemme get the pokepaste\
nocturne holly
I just piloted dengo like a fucking idiot
protected because I was scared of chien sucker punch
BUT PSYCHIC TERRAIN WAS ON
Then I fucking DIDNT TERA DENGO INFRONT OF CHIEN PAO EVEN THO IT HAD CRUNCH BECAUSE I FORGOT ABOUT INDEEDEE FOLLOW ME
I won tho
fallen rivet
ah okay, my bad then 🙂 what team are you using?
nocturne holly
not happy bout the win
The team is based on dengo yet I couldn’t win with it
I also could’ve taken out chien pao with dp from hands
Instead I wild charged in case they terad
BUT THEY ALREADY USED THEIR TERA AND I FORGOT
that was an ass game for me
If they played better I was done for
charred saddle
damn, heavy slam ohko
chrome knot
soagheti monster
deep sparrow
How is everyone tonight?
true niche
if you're running tornadus and urshifu-rapid strike, is it better for tornadus to be faster than urshifu? 👀
mighty stump
Not necessarily
Some Torns don't even run speed investment like the Rocky Helmet ones
true niche
ok, just had situation Sinistcha used rage powder, and urshifu attacked first, would've been nice to KO the partner pokemon
deep sparrow
I haven’t seen too many Sinistcha teams. Love the Pokémon though
mighty stump
ok, just had situation Sinistcha used rage powder, and urshifu attacked first, w...
Probably positionally you might have wanted to protect/taunt or switch
Rather than requiring Tornadus to be faster
dull ibex
Hi
mighty stump
bye
charred saddle
dull ibex
👀
mighty stump
you know what time it is
dull ibex
I'll make a vc in a second if that's what you mean lmak
mighty stump
yes
polar canyon
The lake in the top right of the minimap looks like a pp
dull ibex
that's hilarious
polar canyon
Is it
dull ibex
Poop
dull ibex
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2023regulatione-2000966439-os5snirrod5d512j9alfdoomtcj0rk4pw @mighty stump this is what happened while you are afk btw
next stump
it’s way too cold outside
mighty stump
it’s way too cold outside
Just Sunny Day
keen karma
it’s way too cold outside
25 for me
dull ibex
Just Sunny Day
I used rain dance
polar canyon
Wild
orchid falcon
it’s way too cold outside
too man people are using A Ninetails in comp
mighty stump
Don't ping me ⭐
bitch
mighty stump
Plz do not unless important
important
dull ibex
Fuk u
keen karma
important
do you think calcing for 3hko's is a good benchmark
im calcing off of booster speed moonblast flutter and hands
dull ibex
Man is a fucking genius
no me
keen karma
man i cant wait for hitmontop
actually do you guys think hitmontop will be overshadowed
bold geode
actually do you guys think hitmontop will be overshadowed
Oh absofuckinlutely
dull ibex
actually do you guys think hitmontop will be overshadowed
Yes very
keen karma
well actually that was a dumb question because its one of the more less popular mons
dull ibex
what does hitmontop want to do
keen karma
its very good though in past games
dull ibex
well actually that was a dumb question because its one of the more less popular ...
no it wasnt its a fine question
you didnt ask if pikachu would be good
that would be a dumb question
keen karma
but it was still overshadowed then
bold geode
Hands
Incineroar
Addition of Upper Hand
Rillaboom
Other stuff that gives more than the FO pressure
Cuz let's see here
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.24.4
bold geode
Oh it has Intimidate wtf
dull ibex
there is no reason to use it over incin genuinely
keen karma
incin is just better hitmontop tbh
they dont do the same thing
bold geode
Did not know that
But still what would you rather choose
Hitmontop or Incineroar
dull ibex
they dont do the same thing
I mean yes they do
dull ibex
yes incin also does that
keen karma
if anything double intim is gonna be really high in usage i think
bold geode
Yeah Incineroar is support that can actually put out good damage
dull ibex
it does everything practically
dull ibex
hitmontop even if its out dps' incin that does not mean anything when incin can do great damage and do everything else well too
dull ibex
I just dont think wide guard is all that valuable ngl
"oh but it covers alot of moves" sure better use of that slot with more productive moves imo
bold geode
Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh
Maybe maybe not
I think Hitmontop would be there for a rea niche aspect
dull ibex
hitmontop could be used on a team probably pretty okayly
keen karma
I just dont think wide guard is all that valuable ngl
its very good move but bad distribution
dull ibex
but we asked if its outshined
bold geode
Can it work? Sure. Will it be around a lot? Probably not.
dull ibex
which is a undisputed yes
keen karma
Can it work? Sure. Will it be around a lot? Probably not.
imo its without a doubt gonna be good
dull ibex
tbh I think in reg e foward it will be lando, harc, incin
keen karma
intim + fake out is extremely good
dull ibex
with hands and rilla getting some use as well
harc is only there because its dumb on hyper offense
bold geode
intim + fake out is extremely good
Yeah
But when talking about if it'll be outshined or not
When Incineroar does same thing
keen karma
lando incin will be part of alot of teams together
dull ibex
maybe
keen karma
Yeah
But when talking about if it'll be outshined or not
When Incineroar does sa...
it will most likely be anti meta
dull ibex
maybe not
what does anti meta mean to you doyle?
Alot of people throw that around im not sure it means what they mean
bold geode
I mean anti meta probably
Or niche role
But will it be around as much or more than Incineroar
Hell no
dull ibex
niche at best tbh
keen karma
mons that are low in usage that have their own niche but will be able to do well under specific circumstances or good underexplored mons
dull ibex
isnt anti meta just stuff that goes well into the meta
what you said is just smogon's UU tier
keen karma
it also gets mach punch
dull ibex
bruxish was antimeta because it countered alot of popular meta mons at the time
same with bramble
bold geode
You stfu about Bruxish
keen karma
and i think it has potential to be a damager with technician
bold geode
I don't wanna hear a fucking WORD about Bruxish
That mf can die in a hole
dull ibex
suffer
keen karma
i wanna use hisuian zoroark next format
bold geode
I absolutely despised that team
dull ibex
I just kinda beat every bruxish I saw LMAO
bold geode
I couldn't win a single match against that team
dull ibex
LMAO
chrome knot
I don't wanna hear a fucking WORD about Bruxish
That mf can die in a hole
pussylips mon😭
bold geode
It was bullshit
dull ibex
skill issue
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the mons on my list of interests is zoroark, hitmontop, entei, suicune, gapdos and other
bold geode
pussylips mon😭
Idk if you can say that here lmao
chrome knot
monke would you give her a smooch
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suicune will also be very good likely
mighty stump
Could be worse
dull ibex
what pouty said is fine
bold geode
monke would you give her a smooch
With the Hello Kitty bat yes
chrome knot
LOL
dull ibex
just dont say that in generla chat you'll get modded lmao
chrome knot
i got modded for saying obvious joke
dull ibex
yes
chrome knot
by raid helpers
dull ibex
this is a pg-13 discord
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Could be worse
what are you talking abt
bold geode
I got modded for talking about toys not for children
dull ibex
I understand being sctric
mighty stump
Thankfully
bold geode
I was in gen chat I was asking for it tbh
dull ibex
I got modded for talking about toys not for children
you should have known you would get modded for that
chrome knot
i said umbreon users r losers and i literally have 6 of them for raids
mighty stump
I mod the mini stuff here
chrome knot
and some rh was like ERM THATS NOT NICE
bold geode
I mod the mini stuff here
Imma mod you for looking handsome
dull ibex
Imma mod you for looking handsome
Tofu SImp
chrome knot
monke look ping
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Good thing this ain't Twitch
t3 sub monke
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"WOWZA thanks for the 500 gifted monke"
bold geode
t3 sub monke
Hey
Don't leak my Pokimane status bro
mighty stump
Btw I checked my message count today
I have 220k messages in this server
200k of them are in this channel
dull ibex
56k for me
dull ibex
51k in this channel
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I have 220k messages in this server
wtf you just joined 2 days ago
dull ibex
me too tofu lmao
mighty stump
Im a bot
dull ibex
speaking of bots
one is speaking right here 
mighty stump
Youre probably not seeing staff channel counts so
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Youre probably not seeing staff channel counts so
ooh say