competitive_discussion

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-slam-gif-23917579

[bold geode]

Like don't get me wrong, I see the Water logic

[nocturne holly]

is this sarcasm

[dapper crag]

You're not making sense Winton sorry

[cyan smelt]

You also get hit for se by rillaboom

[molten oasis]

I do too but also, if your complaint about Tera flying is a weakness to electric

[bold geode]

It's just realize hey both are weak to electric, and you said flying was bad cuz weak to electric

[molten oasis]

How does water even change anything

Also, bundle still threatens you because of freeze dry

[dapper crag]

why would I tera flying on flying/ground mon with no tera blast

I see no point to use flying tera over water

[bold geode]

Forget tera blast ok

[molten oasis]

Remove the water weakness

And gain a grass resistance

Which is very useful against rillaboom

[bold geode]

I'm saying you said earlier tera flying wasn't it because you'd become weak to Electric
Water has the same idea

[dapper crag]

but you can answer this with a type chart

you guys are funny lol

[bold geode]

Fuck the type chart
Seems you need to hit it up lmao

[molten oasis]

Clearly

[dapper crag]

what

tera water is fine on my landorus

[nocturne holly]

🫠

144p quality

[molten oasis]

🫵

[bold geode]

I'm not saying it's shit omg

[molten oasis]

Water is fine

[bold geode]

Ray this was you correct

[molten oasis]

You’re logic about gaining a weakness to electric applies to water

[fallen rivet]

Huzzah I have enough coins to get a gholdengo

[molten oasis]

[dapper crag]

the logic is not that though

tera water resists ice/water

flying doesn't

[molten oasis]

[dapper crag]

converting immunity to weakness is fine

I don't see the point of running tera flying without tera blast

none of you have made that compelling so far

[molten oasis]

Grass resistance

[bold geode]

Ok bro that's not the point lmao

[keen karma]

what are you guys arguing abt

[nocturne holly]

fr

[dapper crag]

I don't even know, looks like toddlers wanting to get final words lol

[bold geode]

I'm just stopping lmao I'm actually pressing my head against a metal bar lmao

[molten oasis]

Yes cuz monke were the toddlers here

[dapper crag]

all of this for running banded lando EQ, this degens way out of scope

[bold geode]

Goo goo ga ga

I shit my diaper

Anyways fuck it
Drago what doing

[molten oasis]

Waiting for orders at work

[bold geode]

Wanna come lay in my baby crib with me

[molten oasis]

And Yk, was arguing with the guy who doesn’t understand his own logic

[molten oasis]

I’m all in

[bold geode]

Lmao

[molten oasis]

K I got orders I’ll be back

[dapper crag]

you guys can't make difference between tera flying with tera blast and tera water being used for defensive purpose

no point in running tera flying without tera blast, what is so hard about this ?

[bold geode]

No you can't read

Or understand shit
But I'm not explaining it again

[dapper crag]

would be simple if you understood that part

I do not run tera blast

[bold geode]

I do lmao

[dapper crag]

then what's the fuzz about

[bold geode]

Idgaf about the tera blast

But I'm not explaining it again

[dapper crag]

cause you don't seem to get it and this is very very degenerate

[bold geode]

If you didn't understand it the 20 times I said it, what says #21 will work

[molten oasis]

A curse of every comp player, we can’t read

[bold geode]

Waffle fries what's good

[nocturne holly]

what should I cook next

[fallen rivet]

Soufflé

[fallen rivet]

Not much just taking a break atm

[nocturne holly]

what mon do I cook next

[fallen rivet]

Ah

Hmmm

Try something with gyarados

[bold geode]

Souffle dumbfuck

[nocturne holly]

name something else

[bold geode]

Ah
Me just got off work, I might do some laddering idk

[bold geode]

Souffle

[fallen rivet]

Sounds fun

[nocturne holly]

laddering like 5 games is fucking insane

[fallen rivet]

How about Monika

[bold geode]

I can do 20

[bold geode]

Yes
Just Monika

[fallen rivet]

*mimikyu bruh

[bold geode]

Lmao

[fallen rivet]

Sorry

[nocturne holly]

I’ve climbed way more than I rver have
In a shorter time frame
And my w/l ratio is really good

[dapper crag]

Laddering in short burst is the best way to climb

[nocturne holly]

-calc 19/2

[gentle crag]

Result: 9.500000

[bold geode]

Nah
20 games
Put yourself in crippling sadness

[nocturne holly]

5 games a day is the meta

[dapper crag]

Not doing too too much rn, Brute Bonnet is giving me headaches

[bold geode]

Wtf are you doing with Bonnet

[dapper crag]

Playing

[bold geode]

I'm sorry, but it's kinda ironic you argue results and then use Bonnet

When's the last time I've seen one of those fuckers
Not since EARLY Reg C when I used it

[dapper crag]

plot twist, you can win games with brute bonnet in your lineup

that's the goal I set myself, winning with one uncommon Pokemon

[fallen rivet]

I tried using that bronnet set on showdown and it did pretty ok

[dapper crag]

Yeah I like it

[bold geode]

I actually have been playing with some alright Infernape HO stuff and God it's so cursed it's hilarious but it also works

[fallen rivet]

I like amoongus better but I can see bronnet’s strengths

[dapper crag]

Amoonguss is great, but Bonnet is spicier

[fallen rivet]

Can agree

[dapper crag]

statwise it's pretty great

[fallen rivet]

I wish it had a better learnset because I feel like it could run av

[dapper crag]

no way you lose spore

that shit is stupid

[fallen rivet]

This is true

[dapper crag]

The greatest asset is that it gets a 5th move passively

It's so often targeted you don't need Rage Powder

[fallen rivet]

Interesting

[dapper crag]

I'm just coping for it being worse Amoonguss tbh

[dull ibex]

Bonnet?

Bonnet is definitely capable enough to win

If it fills a niche

[dapper crag]

The niche being funny shroom

[dull ibex]

Fair

[molten oasis]

Bonnet has a niche

I just hate it’s typing

For what’s supposed to be a tanky offensive Mon it’s just weak to everything

[dull ibex]

It's not bad enough that I would judge Jay or anyone for using it tbh

[molten oasis]

Yes for sure

It’s usable and offensively it’s decent

[dull ibex]

Yeah it's not a throw like

[molten oasis]

But then having what, 7 weaknesses? Sucks

[dull ibex]

not using flutter ever

[molten oasis]

Hey I’ve gotten by

[dull ibex]

True

[molten oasis]

I get mane is a slap on and it’s very good

[dull ibex]

You are hampering alot of teams sadly

[molten oasis]

I do not like it when I’m trying to find a 6th with good defensive synergy

Mane is just 3 immunities and what feels like 0 useful resistances

[dull ibex]

I wonder what calm mind could do

[dull ibex]

Immune to fake out. Dragon stabs, immune to drain punch and cc

[molten oasis]

Calm mind sounds interesting

[molten oasis]

Yk what else does that (except 1 is a resist)

Gholdengo

[dull ibex]

Alot of neutrals is good too tbf

It's only weak to ghost and steel

[molten oasis]

that’s fair but like

I can’t switch mane into any physical attacks it feels like

[dull ibex]

How bulk do you go

[molten oasis]

It feels pretty hard to get mane in safely without sacking something

Even with high bulk

[dapper crag]

Sack Flutter Mane to get something in

[dull ibex]

Do you only play balance drago?

[molten oasis]

It’s not like I can switch it into wood hammer or surging strikes or heavy slam without it getting very weak or dead

[dull ibex]

I'm ngl I'm finding ho teams I like again

[molten oasis]

It’s what I’ve been mainly playing but I’m gonna expand a little in reg f

A lot of the mons I like are balance mons

[dull ibex]

I just think you need to really learn flutter

[dapper crag]

You can run Focus Sash full glass cannon if you want to switch in and live at no bulk investment

[molten oasis]

Fucking why, I’ve gotten by without it

[dull ibex]

Not that it needs to be on all your teams

Because it makes teams better calm tf down please

It's fine if you chose to not listen to me that's whatever but be civil please

[charred saddle]

thats… my old name

[molten oasis]

I’m not gonna sit and learn mane man

[dull ibex]

Why

[molten oasis]

I’ll learn it if I feel like i need it for a team

[dull ibex]

What does it hurt to get better with it?

[molten oasis]

Which I haven’t

I generally care about knowing how to best it more than learn it

[dull ibex]

I'm ngl I still don't like torn

[dapper crag]

nobody really likes torn

[dull ibex]

It's getting easier to stomach

[molten oasis]

I don’t like hands either

[dull ibex]

But I don't like it's move pool

[molten oasis]

But like, it’s good and I understand it’s uses

[dull ibex]

Hands is needed alot lmao

[molten oasis]

And yes I don’t think people like torn

[dull ibex]

More then flutter tbh

[molten oasis]

Yea

Hands is just a very useful Mon rn

[dull ibex]

Whimsicott will fix my tailwind needs tbh

[molten oasis]

Real, well

I have support moon

Support moon is goated

I’m excited for whims and Incin

Whims is gonna be fun

Incin has so much role compression it’ll be quite nice for my playstyle

[dapper crag]

support moon does big damage

[dull ibex]

I just think whimsicott has niche bullshit

[molten oasis]

Real

[dull ibex]

And I like it's kit more

Torn does big damage as well

[molten oasis]

Priority tr

[dull ibex]

That doesn't work

[molten oasis]

Ik ik

Twas a joke good sir

[dapper crag]

torn doesn't do that big damage since it runs 1 damage move

[true niche]

Did chi yu fell off?

[dull ibex]

That one move does big damage

[dapper crag]

not really

[molten oasis]

Ehhh

[dull ibex]

No its still super good

[dapper crag]

Chi Yu is still in a pretty good spot

[molten oasis]

Chi yu is still very good

People just like torn shifu more 🤮

[dapper crag]

Chi Yu kills stuff in neutral it's not even fair

[molten oasis]

My kommo-o took over half from it

[dull ibex]

Tbh mane might be my favorite comp mon rn

[molten oasis]

I was pissed

My favorite comp Mon

Uhhh

[dull ibex]

That or dusclops

I'm happy I made shiny clops work

[molten oasis]

Dengo is up there, support moon is up there, a9 is up there

[dull ibex]

Harc >

[molten oasis]

Harc is up there

[dull ibex]

Fits me more tbh

[molten oasis]

I wish lando wasn’t just

Scarf

[dull ibex]

Lando isn't that bad tbh

[molten oasis]

No not by any means

[dull ibex]

Remember max Lando 😅

Max airstream was a mistake

[molten oasis]

I think we should be more innovative abiut lando sets besides choice items tbh

Ik WHY scarf is so strong

[dull ibex]

It kinda can't

[dapper crag]

go clear amulet or life orb

[dull ibex]

No don't do orb

Go amulet or av for sure

[dapper crag]

why ? sheer force life orb is so strong

[molten oasis]

Yes lando doesn’t really like doing orb at that point yiu just do band

[dull ibex]

Wrong Lando

[molten oasis]

Oh we’re talking about lando t

[dapper crag]

you said be innovative

[dull ibex]

Yes with Lando t

[dapper crag]

switch form

[dull ibex]

Not how that works

[dapper crag]

it works

[dull ibex]

That's a different mon Jay

[molten oasis]

I mean sure but they play very differently

[dapper crag]

yeah

so you'll innovate with a very different set 😉

[molten oasis]

Anyway, the av lando, it’s just hard to get av on lando in the first place

[dull ibex]

"We should innovate on Lando t" use a different mon 5head

[molten oasis]

So many other things want av

[dull ibex]

Thats kinda why scarf is the only way

[dapper crag]

you specified that after

[molten oasis]

I’ve tried sitrus before

[dull ibex]

What Lando I runs scarf

[molten oasis]

I think sitrus is neat

[dull ibex]

Swords Dance?

Set up might have some niche

[dapper crag]

Nasty Plot Lando-I Sheer Force Life Orb

[molten oasis]

Cuz you kinda get some of the bulk you miss out on with av

[dull ibex]

Jay plz stop

I'm trying to help drago

[molten oasis]

I think sd clesr amu Lando would be fun

[dull ibex]

You could do it

[molten oasis]

Wait, that sounds kinda good

[dapper crag]

I'm really sure Lando-I can do well lol

[molten oasis]

Although

The whole thing with lando is Intimiate drops

[dull ibex]

Alright drago I'll talk elsewhere

[molten oasis]

So set up isn’t as good

[dull ibex]

I'm not dealing with this

[dapper crag]

Run Hisiuan-Arcanine + Lando I

Using same Mons is not really innovation if you just use another variant imo

You wanna INNOVATE, go somewhere else with the Mon that has a super busted from nobody's using because you wanna put a scarf to make it look cute

[dull ibex]

Using a different mon isn't innovation

We made it clear drago wants to innovate Lando T

This is wildly unhelpful

[dapper crag]

Different form

[dull ibex]

It's a different mon in practice end of story

[molten oasis]

Different form isn’t really inovating a Mon that runs the same set

Over and over again

[dapper crag]

Same dex number for both forms = you can't use both = same Mon

[bold geode]

Who pinged me

[dull ibex]

Yeah whatever anyways

[molten oasis]

Lando T does different things than lando I

[dull ibex]

Lando I is stagnant as well

[bold geode]

For sure

On the T vs I thing

[molten oasis]

No

I want to innovate lando t a bit

[bold geode]

Lando A?

[molten oasis]

Cuz all it does is scarf

Which, sucks

But I get why it’s so hard to slot another item on it

[dapper crag]

try choice band

[charred saddle]

me

[molten oasis]

I have I’m saying without doing choice items

[bold geode]

What need

[charred saddle]

this kek

[molten oasis]

Like lando has other tools no one experiments with

[bold geode]

Oh lmao

[charred saddle]

nono im just replying with a joke

[molten oasis]

I want to experiment with them

[bold geode]

Wassup googoogaga

[charred saddle]

[bold geode]

Naw I'm a toddler so that's how I speak

Anyways time to eat lol

[dapper crag]

Landorus-Therian's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Fissure, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Outrage, Payback, Punishment, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, U-turn

Special Moves

Earth Power, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Sandsear Storm, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Landorus-Therian.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[molten oasis]

It has taunt which could be neat on a sitrus set

[bold geode]

IM COLD FUCK

[molten oasis]

Do like

Stomping rock slide taunt protect

Tera water

[bold geode]

Make sure not to run Tera Flying

[molten oasis]

I wouldn’t run flying anyway

Hold up lemme cook

[dapper crag]

tera flying lando is like super standard with tera blast lol

[molten oasis]

Landorus-Therian @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 132 HP / 100 Atk / 140 Def / 60 SpD / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Stomping Tantrum
• Rock Slide
• Taunt
• Protect

[fallen rivet]

Dragonite upon being hit with powder snow

[molten oasis]

I cooked, I forgot what the spread was for

But I made the spread

[bold geode]

But if you don't use Tera blast, you can't use it bro

[dapper crag]

lol sure

[next stump]

mixed AV lando popped up like once or twice last gen at some regionals

i think it was grass knot

[molten oasis]

That would make sense

Idk if I’ll do mixed

I just want to do NOT scarf or band lando for once

[molten oasis]

Could you find any of the teams it’s on so I can take a look?

I just want to see what it was paired with

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/6fd8a61c54aa74ae

very gen 8 team lol

[molten oasis]

Yes was gonna say lol

Lum would be interesting

[orchid falcon]

Can someone tell me how to improve this? https://pokepast.es/779a696709503df5

[molten oasis]

Scarf tatsu is better than sash imo

Taunt doesn’t work on av

[fallen rivet]

I wonder how well one could run a team like that in this gen

[molten oasis]

Dozo can do wave crash instead of heavy slam

[nocturne holly]

tatsu wants to be closing games with scarf yea

[next stump]

i really think that’s not the best way to run dondozo in this format

[fallen rivet]

Maybe wave crash over heavy slam? But I do see why one would run that

[next stump]

it’s much stronger as an offensive sweeper

wave crash/order up/3rd attack or substitute/protect

with leftovers and tera dragon

you could also consider rocky helmet but that’s kinda niche

[orchid falcon]

so i can still run heavy slam?

for flutter mane?

cuz it OHKOs

[molten oasis]

For an av lando rn maybe something like this Landorus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 132 HP / 100 Atk / 140 Def / 60 SpD / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Stomping Tantrum
• Rock Slide
• U-turn
• Brick Break

BB for screens

[orchid falcon]

i was looking for a more speedy lando

[molten oasis]

Literally the only reason

No I’m cooking my own lol

[orchid falcon]

kk

[next stump]

wave crash also OHKOs flutter mane

I think Earthquake is best 3rd attack currently

[orchid falcon]

has recoil tho

[molten oasis]

That’s fine

[next stump]

heavy slam is only clicked into flutter mane though

every other pokemon you’d rather hit with STAB

[orchid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-black-guy-thug-shaker-discord-caption-gif-25597417

[charred saddle]

even if its like SE? weezing galar 120 BP heavy slam (i just played it)

and what about Harc fairy tera? is it still better to go wild charge?

[next stump]

this is for dondozo specifically

[charred saddle]

ooh mb mb

[molten oasis]

Real

[next stump]

you’re good 🙂

[charred saddle]

but on the case of hands, is is better for heavy? or wild charge

since i find myself in some situations where wild charge feels better(?)

[next stump]

against heatran, never click heavy slam

it does like 5-10% or something stupid

against lighter pokemon, you can definitely use it. It really just depends

[molten oasis]

I think wild charge might do more if it’s Tera fairy

I don’t remember that calc

[next stump]

yeah wild charge does like 3x more than heavy slam I believe

[molten oasis]

Lol

[nocturne holly]

just checked it does

[molten oasis]

LOL

Heatran a heavy boy

[nocturne holly]

100+ Atk Iron Hands Wild Charge vs. 68 HP / 4 Def Tera Fairy Arcanine-Hisui: 96-114 (53.6 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

100+ Atk Iron Hands Heavy Slam (60 BP) vs. 68 HP / 4 Def Tera Fairy Arcanine-Hisui: 86-102 (48 - 56.9%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO

[molten oasis]

Wrong Mon

[nocturne holly]

thats harc lemme do heat

no harc was in question first

[molten oasis]

Oh was it? I missed that

[fallen rivet]

Ok noob question but can I take my harc from arc and use in in comp

[charred saddle]

yeah i asked if wildcharge / heavy slam did more to tera fairy Harc

[nocturne holly]

against tera fairy heat wild charge does more

[molten oasis]

Cool

[next stump]

what does this mean

oh like arceus?

[charred saddle]

from arceus

[fallen rivet]

Yep

[charred saddle]

yeah you should be able to

[molten oasis]

Yea doesn’t matter what game it’s from

[next stump]

yeah as long as you EV train it

[fallen rivet]

Sweat thanks

[charred saddle]

oh right, grit =/= EV

[molten oasis]

Yep

[nocturne holly]

alr gn comp chat 🥱

[molten oasis]

Gn bi-I mean bro

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[orchid falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-cat-goodnight-gif-20504069

[fallen rivet]

Gottem

[karmic temple]

Nice

[fallen rivet]

Thanks

What’s the best difficulty for grinding mochi

[karmic temple]

Easy if you’re solo hard if you get a group of 4

[fallen rivet]

Ty

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/a2a946ee03745f3b anyone got thoughts for a 6th?

[charred saddle]

heatran?

for fire switch ins, and fire coverage

[molten oasis]

Double steel is, not something I like doing

I generally think double steel is ass

[fallen rivet]

Alright time 2 ladder

[cyan smelt]

urshifu

[mighty stump]

Chi Yu, HArc

[molten oasis]

Hi tofu

I don’t want to add extras fighting weaknesses or rock weaknesses but like, every fire type rn just does that

Snow makes this harder 🫠

So chi yu gives me more damage from bundle

[mighty stump]

Hm

[molten oasis]

That’s what makes this hard

The weakness stacking is really easy

Thanks meta fire types for all being weak to fighting

I tried Kommo-o

I just, wasn’t taking it and when I did it wasn’t doing much

Good for defensive synergy

Just, didn’t help in the long run

I don’t mind changing things

With the other members

[mighty stump]

Im looking at the team and im just more incljned to add another heavy hitter

Firepon

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

Cause some board positions might feel non pressuring depending on what youre looking at

[fallen rivet]

Ok gonna take a quick break, sitting at 5-3 in pokeball tier

Dengo very gud

[mighty stump]

and this will allow better manoeuvres around amoonguss

[molten oasis]

We could do sd firepon

[mighty stump]

nah

[molten oasis]

Nah

Alrighty then

[mighty stump]

Glide/Hammer/Ivy/Spiky

[molten oasis]

OH I HAVE RILLA

[mighty stump]

or Glide/Stomping/Ivy/Spiky

[molten oasis]

I forgor

Yea that does give me more immediate offensive pressure

Rock weaknesses are manageable here, unlike fighting

I have lando and bundle for rocks

(Bundle kills the rock abusers)

Ok

So do I just do simple evs here

Or get some bulk in

[mighty stump]

just max max

lol

[molten oasis]

Ight

Jolly or adamant?

I’ll do jolly for now

https://pokepast.es/8a097acf761882cb

[smoky hawk]

I hate games like this

I put my thinking cap on and I choose all my moves based on what I would do as my opponent

And my opponent does absolutely nothing that I would have done. Impossible to read

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump whats ur opinion on banana milk

[mighty stump]

Good, why?

[chrome knot]

ionno

[molten trout]

Oi oi, I'm hoping to get a little help, trying to get back into the competitive scene with my belly drum Kommo-o any recommendations for a doubles partner for it?

[mighty stump]

Probably Clefairy, but there are far better Belly Drum users out there.

and Kommo-o is better run as IDBP if youre going to try and set up

Since Clangorous Soul misses out on a lot of KOs often.

Belly Drum in itself is just inconsistent

[molten trout]

Yeah that may be but I like my set of BD, Sub, DP, Tera Blast

Tera steel salac berry

[mighty stump]

You don't need Tera Blast, you have Iron Head

[chrome knot]

bonk

[mighty stump]

and no recovery? you lose to spread since you don't get speed boosts and quite a few things are easily faster than Kommo-o

Aside from Berry

and TW is pretty meta

[molten trout]

Recovery is on DP

[mighty stump]

Until you meet a ghost type

Sub -> BD is 75% of your HP

[molten trout]

Yeah, then I got my other attack

[molten trout]

Yeah that's how I get into salac

[chrome knot]

use the clangerous soul throat spray one

[mighty stump]

Okay

Alright

I'm not going to bother lol

[chrome knot]

what the

[molten trout]

Look, I just wanted some help with finding a partner for it I didn't want a new set, if that was the case I'dve done it myself

[mighty stump]

And I don't give out advice without pointing out all their shortcomings?

[molten trout]

That wasn't the question I asked though

[mighty stump]

Yeah unfortunately for you, I don't care?

Its not about you

[smoky hawk]

My bleakwind storm misses something damn near every time!

[molten trout]

Damn, seemed like you cared enough to feed your superiority to give me advice about how my set was bad though even though it wasn't what I asked for, could just be me though

Listen, I don't mind a little help, but help what people want help with not what they don't care about

[mighty stump]

Damn its almost as if your set is actually bad and i'm not here to coddle players for their casual inconsistent play

So too bad? lol

[chrome knot]

eat eat eat

[molten trout]

I didn't ask you to coddle me, or my set, I asked for a partner to pair with it faults and all

[mighty stump]

And I answered, and I do my due diligence in explaining the better sets out there

If you're offended, and believe I think it's bad, that's not my problem

[molten trout]

Yeah, but you named one mon, didn't elaborate, and proceeded to dunk on my Kommo-o... if that's your advice then I don't think it's very sound

I know the inherent downsides of a drain setup, and I took them making the set as goofy as it is

[mighty stump]

Oh right I forget people need to have everything literally spoonfed, Clefairy has Friend Guard and Follow Me to stop Kommo from being targetted and tank through spread

[dapper crag]

Ability: Friend Guard

This Pokemon's allies receive 3/4 damage from other Pokemon's attacks.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[mighty stump]

However its pointless without recovery since youre going to have to end up in a situation lacking any sort of bulk with risky plays running Heal Pulse on Clefairy

[molten trout]

And why should I use it over something like indeedee

[mighty stump]

and Salac Berry as your only source of speed control

[molten trout]

Or maus, or anything with icy wind

[mighty stump]

Becuase people usually run more consistent sets that can run protect so they don't care about Fake Out

and usually people run Omniboosting so they don't need to depend on Icy Wind

and Maushold isnt nearly as bulky as Clefairy with Eviolite

So your "goofy" set actually holds you back

[molten trout]

Now THAT is actual information and advice pertaining to what I asked about

I can use this constructively

[mighty stump]

Yeah cause clearly people want to be coddled lol

Children

[chrome knot]

i want cuddle

[mighty stump]

Cause how are you even going to use my advice while maintaining your inefficient set

[molten trout]

If coddling to you is providing helpful information players can use that pertained to their question rather than going on a side tangent about something unrelated then yeah I guess people want to be coddled

[mighty stump]

"side tangent" someone hasnt heard of due diligence clearly

[chrome knot]

omg youre a comp splat player do you know bran

on starburst i think it called (?)

[molten trout]

Simple enough really, I need to find an effective defensive option with good enough utility to support the set I like, with that in mind I can start looking at mons I'd like

[molten trout]

Oh yeah, I've seen them before, pretty cool but it's not like I know them personally

[chrome knot]

hes a goon he play mario kart wii too

[mighty stump]

Yeah unfortunately you can only have 2 mons on one side of the field and you barely had an understanding of what options you had available without me spelling it out for you after being offended for some reason cause I pointed out your set is objectively bad

But good luck ig

[molten trout]

Thanks for the luck mate!

[mighty stump]

I hate being back already, shitters

[dull ibex]

Hello

Speaking of shitters I am here

[mighty stump]

I meant real shitters Red

[molten trout]

Hey man, if you can't provide advice for all skill levels, new are returning, then don't even bother hanging around public discords

[dull ibex]

I know

You were given advice though

[molten trout]

I was

[dull ibex]

Then take it and have fun!

[molten trout]

I will, I know where to start my search and I'll be able to make something satisfactory

[dull ibex]

Speaking of bad, I'm running max max mystic with swords dance

Swords dance feels a little weird with no bulk tbh

[keen karma]

It took me 4 hours to get 1 urshifu

[dull ibex]

Skill issue?

Idk.

I'm not really sure what to lead into what ngl

[smoky hawk]

I tell myself I'll quit if I win the next game

I proceed to lose the next 4 games

Happens all the time

[cyan smelt]

Don't tilt queue

[dull ibex]

Tofu do you think I should sell my copy of shield?

I'm a little torn on it ngl

[mighty stump]

?

[dull ibex]

I have both shifus and legendaries on save

So maybe I should sell, I'm not gonna play swsh casually

[mighty stump]

If you're really done with it

Sell it

[dull ibex]

Fair

I'll see what it sells for on ebay ig

[mighty stump]

Im sitting here wishing people have to have a minimum server level to interact with this channel

[charred saddle]

“choose your damn mon”

while im reconnecting. sure

[dull ibex]

I agree

I think comp needs a base amount of info because you can talk on it confidently lmao

[chrome knot]

how about vgc entry level test

rentals require approval

[dull ibex]

Ooohhhh

[mighty stump]

Like what am I, a personal google bot?

[charred saddle]

HAHAH

[mighty stump]

Im just gonna start gatekeeping my help depending on what you want to ask

[chrome knot]

yeah so whats manaphys bst

[mighty stump]

I hope you trip into a vat of boiling acid

[chrome knot]

no thats not a number

[mighty stump]

Oh my bad let me just

[chrome knot]

its 600 bc shes always keeping it 100😭

[mighty stump]

4

[dull ibex]

I think manaphy has atleast 1iv

Bro I'm gonna start the no good meta

All 0s no evs

[mighty stump]

No, Amon already did that in Gen 8

[dull ibex]

Serious question about a rental, is the underused team supposed to be literally all underused mons?

Because dengo Chi yu are super super meta

And maushold isn't unheard of in E

[smoky hawk]

In good news, my sash flutter with trick room imprison is working

[dull ibex]

😔

[cyan smelt]

what does armadeedee do when you shut down their tr

[dull haven]

[dull ibex]

Hi Khuja

[charred saddle]

endure WP weak armour

[dull haven]

Hello

[smoky hawk]

They just used the indeedee to helping hand the arma but ultimately I won

[charred saddle]

hello khuja

[cyan smelt]

hi khuja

[chrome knot]

so can we do thay

[dull ibex]

I kinda wanna do the same never used mons concepts

But try to do it better

[dull haven]

What? What are we trying to do?

[dull ibex]

🤔🤔🤔

[chrome knot]

explode.

[chrome knot]

.

[dull haven]

Oh

[chrome knot]

both parts

[mighty stump]

We cant

Lol

[dull ibex]

I'm ngl I'm not sure most of the server would agree to gatekeeping this channel

[chrome knot]

boooooo

[mighty stump]

I don't actually want to

[chrome knot]

gaslight girlboss gatekeep

oops wrong order

[charred saddle]

i mean.. i kinda learned from nothing

[dull ibex]

I do wish less experienced players would stop telling me I'm wrong though LMAOOOO

[mighty stump]

Meanwhile, Tofu:

[charred saddle]

so gatekeeping some new players isnt that good

[mighty stump]

Back in my day

[dull ibex]

No its not

[mighty stump]

Didn't even have comp helpers

[charred saddle]

HAHAH “BACK IN MY DAY”

[mighty stump]

"BACK IN MY DAY"

[dull ibex]

Back in my day tofu was toxic

[charred saddle]

UDH KEK ORANG TUA

HAHAHHA

[mighty stump]

Yeah I can promise you, from when I came back im about to be worse

[chrome knot]

i learned from progesterone man

[dull haven]

Tofu is just my son, lol

[dull ibex]

I'm also mostly self taught

[mighty stump]

Emg tai

[dull ibex]

Tofu has coached me and taught me better habits though

[mighty stump]

Diem di channel ini usia gw nambah x3

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAHAH

[mighty stump]

Stress af man

[dull ibex]

Tbh I'm less likely to defend new players

Too many arrogant morons got under my skin

[charred saddle]

[mighty stump]

but red

"thats not what I asked for"

[dull ibex]

I disagree with getting triggered by being told a set is bad but like

You were hostile "for no reason"

[mighty stump]

Im always hostile what do you mean

[dull ibex]

True!

[mighty stump]

When shitters don't want to consider every angle of approach especially when their approach is shit

with a complete lack of knowledge to back up their shit

and ask me for help

Why the fuck

Would I help

or should I help

[dull ibex]

Oh fatigue you're still here how is team-building

[molten trout]

Just finished my team lineup

[charred saddle]

red moves fast

[dull ibex]

That wasn't sarcasm

To be clear

[molten trout]

No I figured

[dull ibex]

I'm happy you didn't leave and I hope you use more meta stuff eventually!

[chrome knot]

send la paste

[molten trout]

I'm not like...genuinely mad at anyone I want to clarify that, I just needed help figuring out a partner so I could worry about sets later

[dull ibex]

Completely Fair tbh

[mighty stump]

[dull ibex]

That's good normally newer players just bitch moan call tofu toxic then leave

[charred saddle]

HAHA BITCH MOAN

[mighty stump]

🤔

[molten trout]

Nah, I'm a returning player, I'm just behind on what I should be doing

[dull ibex]

Oh my bad

When did you play before?

[mighty stump]

#sv_discussion exists for people who want to have fun

[molten trout]

About a year ago, I got so salty so frequently I needed to take a break from the hostility

[dull ibex]

Ah fair

[mighty stump]

RandBats exists for people who want to have fun

Im not here to waste time for people who don't want to learn

[dull ibex]

What if beating people is my fun

[mighty stump]

How often do you win when you just listen to me

[dull ibex]

Consistently

[mighty stump]

Yeah, I thought so

[molten trout]

I'm pretty far behind on what I need to be doing, but now that I'm level headed I'm excited to get back into team crafting

[chrome knot]

tofu whats manaphys bst…

[dull ibex]

Tbh you could be nicer (not that you should be) but the idea alot of people have that you just attack and don't give advice is moronic

[cyan smelt]

why does manaphy have like 3 signature moves

[dull ibex]

Not aimed at you fatigue. Btw

[mighty stump]

I could be a lot nicer

[molten trout]

Either way my team lineup is
Kommo-o
Farigiraf
Ribombee
Flutter Mane
Chien-Pao
And an empty spot I'm struggling to fill

[keen karma]

Is this fax???

[mighty stump]

But for a lot of interactions this is one in many while for others this is their one interaction

[molten trout]

All chill

[dull ibex]

I also could be. People don't get the point if you're nice though

[charred saddle]

why ribombee

[keen karma]

Sleep

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 743: Ribombee

Types

Bug/Fairy

Abilities

Honey Gather, Shield Dust, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/55/60/95/70/124

Total

464

Other Formes

Ribombee-Totem

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[mighty stump]

If people want to start taking offense from words such as "im not going to bother" what sort of entitlement does that even suggest

[molten trout]

Old comp brain, I like webs

[keen karma]

Or somrthing idk what other abilit is

[dull ibex]

Rimbombee stands out as bad to me

Are you in doubles?

[molten trout]

Yeah

[dull ibex]

Hazards mean literally nothing doubles

[dapper crag]

Ability: Honey Gather

No competitive use.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[charred saddle]

AHHHA

[dull ibex]

I agree

[keen karma]

I mean now that amogus is coming back it could have a small niche

[mighty stump]

So no Red, as much as I could be nicer, I don't have the patience to because I could easily just leave again and you can try how long you last with picking up the slack

[charred saddle]

never expected that

[dull ibex]

Tbh I wasn't suggest you tone down the attitude

[dapper crag]

Ability: Shield Dust

This Pokemon is not affected by the secondary effect of another Pokemon's attack.

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[keen karma]

For the most part pretty mid tho

[molten trout]

What would I be recommended over ribombee

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 490: Manaphy

Type

Water

Abilities

Hydration

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/100/100/100/100

Total

600

SableyeBot version 4.24.4

[dull ibex]

I just get why a new player would get mad, mostly because that was me at one point

[chrome knot]

she keeps it 100

[keen karma]

What are you using it for

[dull ibex]

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear

[chrome knot]

whats a pirates favourite letter

[dull ibex]

I'm civil to a point

[charred saddle]

chiyu for fluttermane pairing, then bring in clef for komoo

[keen karma]

Corny

[molten trout]

Speed control because my knowledge of current comp is crusty

[chrome knot]

go on whats their favourite letter

[charred saddle]

drop ribombee

[keen karma]

If you want speed control iron bundle is your best bet

[charred saddle]

speed control is better from torn for quick TW

or icy wind user (bunlde or so)

[keen karma]

Yeah torn eleki or bundle

[molten trout]

I was looking at Eleki

[charred saddle]

or even illumise for it, it does get encore too

[keen karma]

Maybe milo sometimes but usually the 3 i mentioned

Yeah illumise is really good imo

[cyan smelt]

only downside with eleki is it doesn't hit lando

[dull ibex]

Eleki has more downsides then that

Which is unfortunate I'm a huge eleki fan

[molten trout]

I mean, my usual thought process is to play Tera ice on eleki with Tera blast

[keen karma]

Lando isnt really too big of a problem for leki tbh

[cyan smelt]

i guess it gets tera ice for eleki

for lando*

[keen karma]

But actually i think leki is a cool substitute for bundle when you want to use booster on something else

[mighty stump]

Saying this is blatant misinformation since you have to dedicate a moveslot and tera in a match to even not get walled

[dull ibex]

I wasn't about to call bs as well

[molten trout]

Sets will need work but heres what I have so far https://pokepast.es/37accc5f395a8078

[keen karma]

Oh i was thinking from you could just run something alongside it

That beats lando

Mb

[mighty stump]

You can

Bundle/Urshifu/Lando deterrents

You essentially want something like Hands as well

[charred saddle]

ally switch girrafe?

[dull ibex]

ew ally switch

noob trap icky

[cyan smelt]

hopefully farigiraf gets e-force in the dlc so we can imprison e-force

[dull ibex]

ignore me I have beef with ally switch

[keen karma]

I c

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/97ac36157d91420f Could this be optimized further?

[molten trout]

Ally wish was my orignal support plan for kommo-o as Gimmicky as it is

[dull ibex]

I just dispise the move and personally dont respect it

run what you want though

I think its better now less dogshit for the game's health but I still hate it

[keen karma]

Actually i think eleki + bundle is cool on paper

[molten trout]

Appreciated, with my set its hard not to run something Gimmicky though

[dull ibex]

fair enough

[keen karma]

Just found i have a shiny litten from swsh

[molten trout]

Huh

[dull ibex]

I have a shiny incin

[keen karma]

Gg

Im prolly not gonna use it though

I only use 1 shiny a team

[dull ibex]

lame

[molten trout]

Low key, I know how bad Kommo-o can be when compared to other usable mons, but partially I just want to use it because I like it a lot and it's not completely trash

[dull ibex]

I flex on everyone 😎

[fallen rivet]

Holy crab I love this team

[cyan smelt]

i want to flex my shiny regidrago on people

[keen karma]

I cant use a full team of shinies

It just feels weird

[dull ibex]

I did that for a bit tbh

[molten trout]

It's less special when they're all shiny

[dull ibex]

wouldnt it be more special

instead of 1 shiny that is rare you have 6 rare mons

less lucky to occur

[molten trout]

Much cooler when it's the main crux of your team that's shiny

[keen karma]

^^^

Especially with shiny legends

I cant use thise

Unless they’re subtle shinies

Like cresselia

[molten trout]

I want to get into VGC but I have no clue how to even approach that cesspool

[fallen rivet]

cesspool

Out of curiosity why do you call it that

[keen karma]

Because its toxic sometimes

[fallen rivet]

Completely valid

[molten trout]

it's a mess to me, the community is 90% more upsetting than the smogon tier system

[fallen rivet]

Completely understandable

[molten trout]

And the issue with getting into comp. VGC is I can't avoid the community

[fallen rivet]

Yeah I get that

[dull ibex]

I CAN RECREATE A VGC MATCH IN ANIMAL CROSSING I have such a good idea bro

im cooking with gas for sure

[molten trout]

Pfff

[dull ibex]

I eman you could

[molten trout]

Yeah, but if I want to take it seriously it'll mean having to interact with the community to schedule to go to or participate in events

[dull ibex]

if you want to play in tourneys sure

but you also dont have to play tourneys to taket h game serious

[molten trout]

Yeah, but I kinda feel like otherwise it's a little boring if I'm not participating in events

[dull ibex]

ig

[fallen rivet]

Ok just had the biggest bruh moment ever

So I had Tera gholdengo and harc against a low chien pao and decided to extreme speed to end the battle but they Tera ghosted and knocked out dengo and I thought I had basically lost but apparently they only had icicle crash as their only other move but it was still doing a lot of damage. In my extreme idiocy, I had managed to neglect to fully pp extreme speed so I managed to survive all the icicle crashes that hit (one missed) and ko the chien pao and myself with struggle, winning the battle

[deep sparrow]

Honestly from the times I’ve just asked questions, you’ve never been rude or toxic. Same goes for Redington. I haven’t had a bad interaction yet.

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/landorus-therian.gif

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/landorus-therian.gif

[molten oasis]

hmm

[mighty stump]

Yet

[deep sparrow]

Oh I’m sure I’ll clash with someone eventually. But I’m still too new to be throwing out my competitive opinions. Lol. I try not to speak on things I’m not at least 90% sure on 😂

[mighty stump]

Easiest way to go about it is if you treat what I say with the emotion of a robot

So I’m sure it’ll be fine

[dull ibex]

im only nasty when people piss me off

[molten oasis]

I thought we clashed at somepoint?

tbf

I’ve clashed with, a bunch of people recently 🫠

[deep sparrow]

I don’t think so. I haven’t clashed with anyone yet 😂. I don’t know enough about vgc to argue about it

[molten oasis]

That’s uh, that’s good

I’m happy you’re trying to learn the game

[dull ibex]

just know everything 5head

[molten oasis]

Real

[mighty stump]

I mean its fine to disagree

Even if you’re new

[molten oasis]

Yea that’s true

[mighty stump]

What I cannot accept are people who try to deny the shortcomings of their sets when its being pointed out because they need to be pointed out

or try to engage in pointless black/white discussion

Everything about this hobby is so opinion-based and contextual

and yes, some opinions are very clearly better than others

better might be the wrong term, more accurate*

[deep sparrow]

Im not awful at vgc, im just not as a good as I want to be. Being bad makes me want to get better 😂. Im a competitive person, so when I do things, I wanna try and obviously better myself. And there’s tons of people here with the experience and knowledge that I don’t yet have. So I just soak it in.

[mighty stump]

That tends to be where people grow, and its for people like you I need to swat out any misinformation

Confusion is common

[deep sparrow]

And I appreciate it 😂 im sure it’s tiring

[molten oasis]

I used to be pretty dumb about the game but I kinda got over stuff and started improving

[mighty stump]

I don’t mind trolling around or having fun just, time and place

or unless its obviously a joke like Steel Beam Corviknight

[molten oasis]

I matured

[mighty stump]

Hits you with dematurisation ray

[molten oasis]

NOOOO

[mighty stump]

DRAGO NO YOU HATE IRON HANDS AGAIN NOOOO

[charred saddle]

no more dry age drago

[molten oasis]

[dull ibex]

drago still dislikes hands and mane

[molten oasis]

Oh I still despise mane

[dull ibex]

yeah its weird

[molten oasis]

But I’ll use hands

Hands does what I need it to

[deep sparrow]

I use to play tournament paintball. Practiced every weekend, went across the US for events. Had to step away for a couple seasons since im going back to college for cyber security. So now I just use that competitiveness on other things 😂

[molten oasis]

Real

[mighty stump]

Why is it the cybersecurity x VGC players

its

Like I now know a non-insignifxant number of cybersecurity people playing VGC

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[cyan smelt]

it's because of the amount of hax in vgc

[molten oasis]

Dw tofu I’ll be one of them in a few years

[mighty stump]

real

also real

[molten oasis]

It pays well

So I can have a fucking life and not rot away

In a kitchen

[mighty stump]

my unpaid intern life be like:

[dull ibex]

its so they can hack the mainframe and dc people

[molten oasis]

Real

[charred saddle]

dry age drago

[dull ibex]

anyone around that can vc?

[molten oasis]

I had my dad go “Yk it’s kinda like a video game” when I mentioned cybersecurity

[deep sparrow]

My step dad got me interested in it. He’s the manager of some company for data security, and infrastructure.

[mighty stump]

probably

[molten oasis]

Most likely red

I’m kinda tired so I wouldn’t be surprised if I pass out

[dull ibex]

im gonna make a vc

[deep sparrow]

Pretty much can work from anywhere as long as he has his laptop and a internet connection 😂 money is good to.

[dull ibex]

https://discord.com/channels/663661005514997770/1178982387460362311

[mighty stump]

ill join iab

[molten oasis]

I have to start prepping for a Tommy Tuesday tomorrow

[dull ibex]

im gonna play animal crossing in vc so someone can tell its not a union circle

[molten oasis]

Or today technically

[mighty stump]

I usually do the cooking; my mom made our usual steamed salmon

but she spilled a bunch of apple cider vinegar

all I taste

is vinegar

[molten oasis]

[deep sparrow]

😂

[molten oasis]

That sucks

[mighty stump]

i was so confused

and hurt

I think I’ve been badly poisoned and I have no Lum Berry

[dull ibex]

haha temtem

[charred saddle]

use rest tofu

[mighty stump]

dying

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-3718772

[molten oasis]

Buying the portal collection was so much more worth

And then I went and started playing ff8

[mighty stump]

Btw Drago

[molten oasis]

But yea uh, Wheatley is one of the funniest characters in gaming history prove me wrong

[mighty stump]

where did your username come from

[molten oasis]

Ah

[dull ibex]

one of them not number 1 though

[mighty stump]

Now that SV is fairly old Iono > Larry as a character

Literally a lot of gym leaders > Larry

[molten oasis]

So I went to a username generator cuz I was fucking bored and didn’t love my old dumb username, like it was stupid. And at the time I wanted dragon in the username. Then DrayageDragon came up and I was just like “ight that works”

[mighty stump]

People really just take someone depressed and be like “omg its me its such a good character” man

Shut up

[molten oasis]

Then I went into a few games that forced 15 characters

[dull ibex]

theyre just boring tbh

[mighty stump]

Wtf is a Drayage

[molten oasis]

So it got shortened to DrayageDrago

[true niche]

im ready :3

[molten oasis]

Something related to cargo

[mighty stump]

A TRUCKING SERVICE

[molten oasis]

LOL YEA

[mighty stump]

YOURE A DELIVERY DRAGON

[molten oasis]

I was just like whatever I’m not changing anything

[mighty stump]

DELIVERYDRAGO

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

SHIPPINGSERPENT

[molten oasis]

I deliver the hottest takes

[dull ibex]

and they're all bad

[molten oasis]

Correct

[dull ibex]

wait til I build this vgc stadium on my island

its gonna be lit af

[molten oasis]

Tbf half the time I make a stupid take it’s half me not even fully understanding it

Like when I said dragon stab sucks I didn’t think about it going into most things for neutral

Which is a good thing

[mighty stump]

Its just two monkeys and a stick isnt it

[dull ibex]

no

[mighty stump]

are you sure

[dull ibex]

ye

[molten oasis]

3 cuz Monke got on there

He found a way because monkeys were involved

[mighty stump]

Monke gets on there and the stick disappears cause he ate it

[molten oasis]

He would eat a stick

[fallen rivet]

I may need to replace the pon

[molten oasis]

What’s wrong with pon?

btw tofu ogerpon has felt good so far

[fallen rivet]

I’m really just not bringing it to a lot of matches and need something bulkier

[molten oasis]

Having that immediate offensive pressure helps a lot

[fallen rivet]

True

[molten oasis]

What’s the team?

[fallen rivet]

I’m in a match rn. I’ll show after

[molten oasis]

Ok

[dull ibex]

Hi

[molten oasis]

I went into my pictures to go find the one with the sandwiches and I completely forgot I’m gonna buy this stupid thing

It looks so stupid but I love it anyway

Shit I don’t have any herba mystica

Ugh

Outbreak hunting it is

[fallen rivet]

Trying to get the poke paste on mobile to work but it isn’t 💀

Basically it’s the team I sent in the other day with the corrections and gholdengo

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/snorlax.gif

[fallen rivet]

Alright ended the session 17-9 at rank 9. Have a lot of learning to do

[dapper crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/snorlax.gif

[molten oasis]

Snorlax looking a little different

[dull ibex]

snorlax and harc on the bottom
shifu and teal mask on the top

[mighty stump]

wow they really nerfed Ogerpon huh

[molten oasis]

And urshifu is green now? That’s crazy

[dull ibex]

its just teal mask wdym

[fallen rivet]

10/10 amazing

[dull ibex]

(it is really cute tbh)

[fallen rivet]

It is :)

[mighty stump]

Can't believe youre fighting Ogerpon in Grassy Terrain

[mellow barn]

How is the comp scene? I have been playing the TCG for a while

[molten oasis]

Fine

It’s like, fine

[mighty stump]

guys look Smeargle is back

[molten oasis]

[mighty stump]

Basculegion gained weight

[mellow barn]

👀

[dull ibex]

Pokemon: New Horizons

[molten oasis]

Damn that’s crazy

[dull ibex]

animal crossing looks a little different

[mighty stump]

Great Tusk on vacation

Empoleon when it sees Lando-T

[dull ibex]

Rapid Strike when Wood Hammer

[mighty stump]

252 SpA Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 174-206 (98.8 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 44 HP / 44 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 164-194 (90.6 - 107.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

[dull ibex]

new iron bundle just dropped

[mighty stump]

Mudsdale got badly poisoned

H-Arcanine after getting hit with a drop of water

[dull ibex]

HARCANINE JUMP!

[mellow barn]

[dull ibex]

arcanine being told to jump

[mighty stump]

-1 116+ Atk Landorus-Therian Stomping Tantrum vs. 252 HP / 84 Def Heatran: 168-196 (84.8 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 84 Def Heatran on a critical hit: 180-216 (90.9 - 109%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

[mellow barn]

I do hope arcanine doesn't leave comp scene when dlc drops

[molten oasis]

It won’t

[dull ibex]

harc won

[molten oasis]

There’s no way

[mighty stump]

Its gonna be either H-Arc/Incin

[dull ibex]

won't* harcanine fills a different niche to kanto

[mighty stump]

Lando

[mellow barn]

But I want both

[mighty stump]

And they all do different things

[mellow barn]

Fire team 👀

[cyan smelt]

any teams from brisbane or gdansk or like which pokemon placed highly

[mighty stump]

GDansk finals was essentially a mirror

[silk stream]

Has basculegion seen any play?

[mighty stump]

It did

Adaptability w Choice Scarf

[silk stream]

I assume something like tera ghost. Wavecrash, tera blast, flip turn, phantom force.

Maybe liquidation

[grizzled bronze]

why tera blast ghost when last respects is there?

[mighty stump]

Aqua Jet

[supple ether]

Ive been out of the loop for a while, but with Sinistcha and clefairy back in the mix, is Ting-Lu Fissure relevant at at all?

Or is Urshifu too stronk for tinglu regardless

[mighty stump]

Yeah not anymore

Ting-Lu definitely has the stats for it but might be a tera-hog

Im more mainly worried about stuff like Rillaboom and Lando-T for Ting-Lu even

[supple ether]

Hopefully stall isnt making a comeback

[mighty stump]

Uhh there was a Toxapex stall team that had success