🆚│battle-reports

[severe linden]

used for af too

[swift raptor]

Not if you play army

[barren pier]

I wait an answer too ☺️

[severe linden]

well ofc

[swift raptor]

So not used for af lol

[turbid tendon]

I am very, very likely to be Optimus Maximo and the new hero of the next Air Force line-up

[turbid tendon]

Please try the combination I mentioned

[swift raptor]

That if your using optimus on your af instead of army, whereas those who will use the meta af will use max, selina, new hero

[warm beacon]

max, selina, cat

🤔

[turbid tendon]

If there is no defense, the air force is very vulnerable

[warm beacon]

golden equipment be my defence 🤣

[turbid tendon]

@weak horizon try please

[crystal olive]

What about Selina, Max and new hero?

[severe linden]

max , selina , new hero is the combo you go if you cant use op or mega

cuz this hero is better than saker

[merry scroll]

you are very lost my friend

[fierce falcon]

lol

[turbid tendon]

[gritty breach]

Newboos innit

[stray apex]

Dmg inc is an insignificant stat

Compared to hero attack%

[plain forum]

My army is Springfield/Cromwell/Megatron and my air is Maximo/Selina/Optimus

And my army is like.. decent 12 perk full purple

[swift raptor]

Why don’t you put op in for crom and then get new hero?

[indigo oracle]

Basically identical setup lol

Which is why I consider new hero too, in order to get OP to army

[plain forum]

Waiting to see if new hero is any good. So far I see a lot of bashing

Yeah and it’ll help get me closer to a second army march too

Preycis / crom / Kat or something for attacking

[indigo oracle]

Yeah I’d go prey crom brad7 as my 2nd army

[plain forum]

Nice, also fairly close to brad7 myself so is an option

[wanton rock]

mei> brad

[turbid tendon]

You think so, but it's wrong, Maximo was able to become the best with the same (DMG).

[echo coyote]

Proof?

[humble dawn]

More like 12%

[stoic reef]

Well, the more results you have. They were based on limited battle rounds.

Still getting decent triggers though for me

[humble dawn]

Your lucky

In the few battles I've done

Triggered maybe once

In individual defense she triggered barely

[chrome acorn]

So this new Air Force hero the sht?

[echo coyote]

Literally just hit sandtable and u will know proc rate

[echo coyote]

I haven't heard a single good thing about the new hero tbh lol

[stoic reef]

And it was above or at 3 triggers every round

WZ and Sandtable

[echo coyote]

What's the exact % from sandtable?

[chrome acorn]

Appearently the hero is worse than Selina and Maximo but good enough for third hero status

Not worth it if u ask me

[merry scroll]

pretty decent hero, better than saker, equivalent to megatron when you have giallar vals i would assume

[wanton rock]

there is literally no reason to use mega on air

if don't have army, u should use OP

if u do, then mega belong there too

and new hero is meh

maybe equal to saker, maybe not. not worth upgrading, its. ot any improvement

[echo coyote]

A hero being better than saker isn't saying much

I wouldn't upgrade it just bc its slightly better lol

[violet topaz]

you have a bug
*Army on attack

[ebon citrus]

I want see a side by side of new girl with Max, Selina, OP vs Max, Selina, Lynx

Wb, Sandtable, or WZ.

Trigger rate is about 50% idk where people are getting 30%

[echo coyote]

I have yet to see a single report from sandtable showing any % lol

[ebon citrus]

But general chat is full of AF haters lmao. So maybe it's misinformation

[quartz venture]

Saying max is op isnt being haters, and many people who play air found the average trigger rate around 20% for now. But its still recent so more data will Come

[dusky mica]

You realize no whales are running Prime in AF? Most have shifted to Cromwell instead of Saker and putting Springfield on Army main. Also your formula on Selina and New hero does not account on Selina’s L7 bonus, but with the skill description is pretty vague and I believe the damage increase for the back two rows is for regular attacks only and are not factored into Max’s triggers. Could be wrong but…

[ebon citrus]

No. It's not vague. And I take the average. I look at lvl 5 skil and level 100 5*. Most people won't get to lvl 7 for a long time.

LYNX add 40% attack to all. 80% dmg to back 2 row for regular attacks only. 25% dmg for first two rows with skill lvl 5 for regular attacks only.

[ebon citrus]

Watching 10 min of sandtable, catgirl attacked 2-4 times a round. Maybe I'm lucky. But 3÷6 comes out to 50%.

I did my sand table with saker, catgirl, and Selina. She triggered more than Saker for 10 mins. No way her trigger is 20%

[quartz venture]

It would require multiple people watching entire Replay to Come up with a good idea, i dont use or plan to use this hero just saying you what i read since reset, best way to figure the truth is Always to test yourself if you Can anyway 👍

[ebon citrus]

Good point. I'm AF main, so I have more of an interest in this hero than maybe some others.

[bronze tiger]

Any stats available on this? Curious on exclusives and other base info. Seems like the af guy is way stronger.

[hazy echo]

Try the new heroe/ maximo/ Selina against army. At least 180 march size and let me know please. Defense is what worries me

[ebon citrus]

what defense?

[hazy echo]

I mean new hero doesn’t have any defense stats to replace Optimus. For the ones who use him… i don’t think is worth it. Unless there is something im missing

[ebon citrus]

was a joke. but other than the 30% hp increase. you get nothing. so front line is all you have. other than than, if Mega or Sea hit middle row then lmao what defense?

[hazy echo]

I feel like they should release a hero specific for airforce defense. You know army has the new hero with the rifle… navy has the blue transforme. But airforce has saker? Lol

[ebon citrus]

thats what i was hoping this one would be. but I guess the 800 shards I saved for this hero are going to go to perks. and Ill save for the next AF hero that is hopfully defense

[hazy echo]

G G

[echo coyote]

The guy has no idea what he is talking about, I wouldn't waste too much thought on them

[ebon citrus]

i disregard misinfo

[lost glacier]

Somewhat correct, mostly wrong

Reasoning for Spring going into army main marches is because they are using Prime on AF.

But most of the whales aren’t using prime as they’d prefer to keep him on army. This is what leads to Crom on AF over Saker

[severe linden]

How does crom on af work? Just curious

Lmao looks like af is starting to use more army heros 🤣 af take over !😈

[wicked quarry]

mathematically, op isnt good for army.

the reason why op is good for air, is because air firepower is so high, that battles are very very short (ends in two turns)

the shorter your battles, the more powerful op is

when fighting against, say, crom-mega-spring, the battles can be very long as the firepower is about half that of air

[dusky mica]

You get into top 20 in WZ weekly and into SvS WZ? Or see whales in EL. I hate arguing but I’m not wrong. Springfield is in Army because he’s next best to use with Tron and Prime on Army because they switched Crom to AF and paired with Selina and Max. If you got all L7’s or higher and all three troop types hardly anyone is using Prime on AF.

[dusky mica]

We use Prime on Army for the L7 bonus for army, the shield against navy first round to get hits in weakening as much as possible before it wears off, and the disarm for navy because meta for navy is all rage based and his disarm blocks rage regeneration. So Prime is still meta for just about every whale. What you have to understand is in SvS and EL you have to hit buildings with all troop types and that means navy with suppression. Prime gives you that edge. Now if you have no army then yes a lot of people use Prime for your reasoning. The same principle is why in SvS WZ where you have to use all army vs army, navy vs navy, and AF vs AF that people put pulse jammer on navy because army is single target makes the most sense to have purple chip on it. Purple chip goes on AF because the hit all Vals get boosted from purple chip and Navy gets pulse jammer to block two boats and rage regen for those hero’s.

[dusky mica]

She works on AF because her shield is better than Saker’s by a little and shields Max’s stacks better. With the bonuses on attack from the hit all Valhalla’s, Cromwell’s attack gets a bigger boost, and with the Hit All Valhalla’s doing a lot of damage reducing all stacks Cromwell’s attack is more likely to hit and kill the stack getting the splash bonus.

[cosmic timber]

sorry, found your convo interesting, dont mean to butt in, but crom hp shield is army specific

[severe linden]

her shield is only for army no?

[dusky mica]

True so scratch the shield the rest is correct

[cosmic timber]

ya the val+splash makes a very good combo

[dusky mica]

I don’t use her in AF.

[severe linden]

so the idea of using crom is to take advantage of her splash proc with the all hit val

is she better than prime?

[dusky mica]

I have a hit from EL where a guy hit me that should have won using Springfield and I killed him using Crom. I have all troop types and massive stats, but I’m army main and I refuse to sacrifice Crom to AF

[severe linden]

im running max selina prime rn

[dusky mica]

Plus my Saker, Max, and Selina are all L7

[severe linden]

I have lvl5 exclusives

[dusky mica]

That’s not the argument to make it’s that Prime against navy is better on Army for all the reasons I said in that explanation.

[cosmic timber]

springfield is marginally better, crom is still the go to IMO for offense in army

and i dont think crom replaces prime in air
hes just better in army with es 7

[severe linden]

but using him in af tho not army

[cosmic timber]

i would argue that hes better against air too XD

[severe linden]

ig Ill just pass on using crom and new hero fro af and wait till they have a decent defense hero made for af

[cosmic timber]

if u want the best army march possible, offense and defense, you'll need prime :p
if you want good marches for both army and air, then you can think of putting prime in air, but there really isn't a good prime replacement in army

[cosmic timber]

[dusky mica]

When you have all castle skins, base decor effects, and all decor mostly lvl 4 or higher and super high stats you can spare Prime for Saker with Saker’s shield on AF. Also to note if you have 5 fully perked marches like me Springfield pairs better with Preycis on your 2nd defense march for the bonuses he gets when defending and shielding Preycis’s stacks. Crom/Tron/Prime, Springfield/Preycis/Kat, Erin/SeaSpray/Nemo, Yuu/Nereid/Bailos, Saker/Max/Selina all L7’s except no need for Nereid unless you just want that passive dam reduction.

[dusky mica]

Actually if they come out with a better AF hero to replace Saker, then Saker, New AF hero, and Aya on second AF march in fortified formation (preferably lvl 13 or higher) would not be a bad second march. Or if you try this second march you could put Starscream in for Saker on main just to try this second march…

[echo coyote]

SpartA has been using villi aya rock as AF 2nd march, its pretty terrible even with lvl8 excls lol

[dusky mica]

This reasoning will also make it interesting to see a combo of Max, Crom, and new AF hero, because the hit all Val’s regular attack would get boosted by new hero taking stacks down faster for Crom’s splash damage…

[dusky mica]

Yes because not enough hero procs and hero procs do the majority of damage in marches. That’s because AF doesn’t have enough hero’s to make a good second march. It’s why I don’t have six fully perked marches. I’m saving perk mules for when AF has enough hero’s to make a second AF march.

[cosmic timber]

very true, the dmg inc would help the vals hit all, and then i think the "another attack" thing should work similarly

with this hero, and lancaster, seems like they pushing to use vals on airforce

[dusky mica]

That and pushing new Val Tech

I think a lot of the new hero’s will now have stats with Val tech in mind…

[pastel lantern]

Vals an area of the game that has been overdue for some attention

[dusky mica]

What’s up old buddy? I agree it’s been needed and I’m interested in seeing the tech that makes repair quicker and cheaper!

[pastel lantern]

Same! Going to be building a whole lot more of them with the bump to lvl 83 troops! That's pretty decent! And I definitely trust your advice Bob. Never led me in a bad direction 👍

[violet topaz]

DM Private for stat

[opal plume]

Entonces conviene el chip morado y no el dorado en AF?

[cosmic timber]

Chip is mainly useful against navy (because of rage heroes)
And he's talking about SVS wz, where only navy can be versus navy, hence pulse jammer on navy to affect the others navy

[opal plume]

Gracias por la explicación

[timid atlas]

Lalalaaaa laaa lasaalaaa

[dusky mica]

This is 100% correct and with encirclement you don’t have to worry about it, but I put and leave it on Navy for all the other reasons I’ve explained

[echo coyote]

Its great for the biggest whales, thats about it imo

This whole buffing vals thing is gonna make them even more untouchable for anyone less than whale lol

Garbage change imo

[wanton rock]

you probably just count it differently 👀 50% from back 2 rows is 33% in total

[wicked quarry]

There is no reason whatsoever to watch any replay at all. Just obseve total dmg dealt by regular atks and the difference when running catgirl vs. not running her and extrapolate from there

[wicked quarry]

#📮│game-suggestions message

[wicked quarry]

(100% atk inc) Selina max op
or
(80%dmg inc)serval max op?
My selina is 3.1 atop upgrading her

[last finch]

@surreal crescent how is this possible 🤔

[surreal crescent]

Navy not ded

[little grotto]

This channel is for battle reports. Discussions about reports and heros can be had in #📱│game-discussion 👍🏻

[severe linden]

The 80% is only on reg attacks tho

[wanton rock]

[little grotto]

Yeah discuss battle report, not have a full on discussion about each individual pigment on a heros skin 🤣

[quick fractal]

Is that real?

[wanton rock]

mastery 19 lmao

[quick fractal]

Wow

[ionic sage]

I hope Miku can do something his results with the replay

[proper dragon]

This is too much 🤣.. I am not sure whether same can be done with other troops like having Nemo or Erin alone to take out Army or Mega alone to take out Air...

[weak horizon]

Air - Exclusive 4 & only 2 purple equipment

[quick fractal]

Stats for 1st please

[echo coyote]

But maymi is

[late wraith]

Share the attributes 👀

[hushed seal]

Need stat, I wouldn’t test air vs navy. Should be air vs air or army.

Ignore what ppl tell u, Lynx is decent hero, good stats. Proc rate ~35%. And need lvl 5 es at least for her to be good.

[merry scroll]

man you couldn’t even get her name right

[ebon citrus]

you don't do it out of all 9 stacks. just last 6. doing from all 9 is misleading

[finite wasp]

No doing from only last 6 is misleading lmao

If a hero had 100% trigger rate on stack 5 it’s more accurate to say the trigger rate is 11% instead of 100% because you only fire 1/9 of the time

[weak horizon]

#💪│join-us please create a recruitment discord group and poster

[alpine ether]

5х 60.6B ?

What a garbage

[rugged crest]

First one is 619M 😂😂

[brazen nacelle]

Lol

Worser than bailos 🤣

[static seal]

Attack or defense ?

Lvl of exclusive is same on both sides ?

[severe linden]

these are all won by max procs

[turbid tendon]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I said before that there should definitely be an Optimus for the Air Force

[lapis narwhal]

"an Optimus" 🤔

[turbid tendon]

Just try the combination of Optimus and Maximo and the new hero once

[lapis narwhal]

Lol

[rugged crest]

First one we both have full ex5. Second one only have max ex7. Both i was attacking

[rugged crest]

Probably yeah. Still it means i have to be so lucky or have no chance

[plain forum]

pretty sure 5 is because there were 5 normal attacks, not that it triggered 5 times

[brazen nacelle]

Sure? Count the normal atks to the proc countdown? Bc he attacked 8 times but she had 5 i think that was the procs

[plain forum]

well only the back 2 rows can proc Serval double attack, so that would mean his front row got wiped out and basically every single time Serval proc'd when it could

[brazen nacelle]

The first report was 3 atks & only 1 proc

Lmao confusing 😂

[plain forum]

let me check a report I have vs her

[rugged crest]

Gold chip. Some units in first row got jammed

[brazen nacelle]

Is that proc countdown from the double atk or counts it the normal atks?

Did you check that

[rugged crest]

Double attack only

[plain forum]

not only do I believe it's the number of hits... it also includes the fire damage as a proc

[brazen nacelle]

Checked the replay?

[plain forum]

in this fight Serval proc'd 3 times, hitting 3 ships each time.. the stat sheet says 10 procs. So it has to include ignite damage too

[rugged crest]

Yea zukki’s right this is actually ignite damage only. Her double attack will be included with regular attack dmg.

[loud basin]

was doing some test wtf i can't see her damage?

[rugged crest]

it will only show after you get her ex5 for some reason

[wanton rock]

it count inside normal attacks

[plain forum]

stats left/right as shown in reports... seems to come down to max procs (no surprise) but overall relatively similar outcomes for both prime/serval at lv 80 units in warzone

[severe linden]

I would try against tanks

If you do af it’s gonna be a maximo battle

[north geode]

Anyone tested with valhals ? That extra attack with af valhals that hit all units and deal.80% dmg seem broken

[wanton rock]

level of excl?

[plain forum]

All 5s, enemy has lv7 Selina

[turbid tendon]

@plain forum Try the combination of Optimus and Maximo and the new hero

With Valhalla, the new hero attacks all 3 rows

[haughty bear]

Even with full val march she's weaker than Selina and if a hero needs a full val march to be better then that hero is very much for the biggest of whales only

[severe linden]

She has a weaker buff than Selina so ur missing out on a lot if u replace her with serval

[solemn stratus]

[lost glacier]

Serval is also buffing Maximo? or am I wrong?

[hallow bone]

<@&667607304300134430>

[chrome acorn]

That’s odd 😂

[hallow bone]

In #📝│translation-suggestions and #🔍│take-me too

[severe linden]

Only 40% attack tho

[late wraith]

Comps 👀

[severe linden]

The 80% damage inc is for reg attacks for the back two rows

[solemn stratus]

We have the same comps

[late wraith]

Damm share stats

[severe linden]

Kat diff🤣🤣

[late wraith]

Thanks

[radiant whale]

Any erinyes &cromwell reports?

[lost glacier]

Gotcha makes me not want to push this hero now lol

[hazy echo]

Max/sel/saker vs max/sel/serval

Which one is better?

[severe linden]

Max sel serval

[hazy echo]

Thank you, but Max/Sel/Optimus is better for PvP, right?

[echo coyote]

Yes

Imo not worth upgrading serval unless ur superwhale and cannot afford to use someone like starscream instead

One of the very rare times I'd advise using starscream lmao

[haughty bear]

Starscream isn't bad especially since you could get him 5* for very cheap with 2 lvl 4 exclusives

[echo coyote]

Most already have em 5 star, so id be better to just stick with that until an actually decent 3rd AF hero comes out

I find it very hard to believe serval won't just be replaced when next AF hero comes out

[hushed seal]

But max wants 2 chicks instead of 1 chick and 1 robot.

[severe linden]

Max sel op is the best rn , but many people use op on army

[severe linden]

Lmaoo

[humble dawn]

Bad world boss report

[winged glacier]

Thats only amalia paints

[loud basin]

man open erin Chan's perks

this is giving me anxiety

[winged glacier]

Yuu work better for me

[frank spade]

Imagine the next Airforce hero will have a big benefit of hitting burning units. I really expect this. Because with gillard and Serval you have constantly the enemy burning.

[plain forum]

Extra damage to burning units or something 🤔

[vocal sigil]

he got better stats then me with 3 heroes lol

[solemn stratus]

[vocal sigil]

[barren pier]

has anyone tested Maximo Serval Optimus? some say it's a better team than Selina Maximo Optimus,thanks

even against tanks they say it's good

[cold terrace]

Can’t see that being true

Mathematically serval < Selina

[chrome acorn]

The fact u 5 starred her before Maximo 😭

[shut osprey]

Max procs are the issue added with no Selina to be the buffer and no prime to protect Mid row

Would be better off just using Amalia and star for more damage then the Maximo

[violet topaz]

Not good, Serval, Max, Selina still better than primz

[wicked quarry]

Anyone know about the 914-hero suicide attack? Its being discussed in this vid after around 3:00 min mark. Hope anyone can explain this to me 👍

https://youtu.be/Q4CX2_kbt4U

[weak horizon]

Is it still used ?

[rustic shoal]

Could you please explain this? Because as far as I can see Selina is 1.22x multiplier to HP of all rows and 2x multiplier to attack of last 2 rows. Serval is 1.4x multiplier to attack of all rows and 1.8x multiplier to damage of last 2 rows (with a chance of extra normal attack). Looks pretty even to me (with a slight advantage to Serval)

[rancid token]

Serval’s damage increase is only for normal attacks, means that it won’t increase the damage of Maximo skill

[rustic shoal]

[severe linden]

Hb max Selina prime ? Is it better than serval Selina maximo?

[pulsar blaze]

Anyone know what gives this stat increase please

[wanton rock]

WoO buildings

[wicked quarry]

It can be also hero skills which are giving some dmg increase ( while hero isn’t required to deploy in battle) for example Yuu exclusive skill lvl 5 gives +3% dmg inc …

[quartz venture]

No svan those numbers goes into hero skills . Haafy is right as there is nothing else that give that much dmg inc in others

[wicked quarry]

Ah yes sorry 😞😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[pulsar blaze]

I have pantheon skin and have 0%

[silk void]

cuz it goes into base buffs, or you're not in an svs type event

[pulsar blaze]

The pantheon buff is separate from damage stats so it can’t be base buffs either as the void is 20% damage decrease

[violet topaz]

For me Not, Prime for Army

[hazy echo]

Max/sel/ Optimus Vs Max/Serv/Optimus ? Which one is better any battle reports.?

[brazen nacelle]

How?

[severe linden]

Ur kat didn’t even proc🤣🤣 wym how , it was a 2v3

[brazen nacelle]

She changed the roles with prey lol

[severe linden]

I think u would’ve won that if u used someone other than kat

[brazen nacelle]

Mybe 🥲

[severe linden]

And his mega popped off

[hushed seal]

We should test af vs air or army only . If ur air is losing to navy maybe just because of VIP lvl.

[echo coyote]

Air v air is just whos max procs first, its garbage for testing lol

Also why would u use air to try and beat army, thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day

[lapis pewter]

All opinions are welcome. But a variety of similar reports in different scenarios would be appreciated. Air Vs is 💩 though 🤣

[wanton rock]

because it works🤷

[quick fractal]

I think it’s only for testing

[echo coyote]

Not very well lol

[wanton rock]

not "i want to beat army, lets upgrade air" but "all i have is air, how would i do better against army, with Serval or without her

[echo coyote]

If all u have is air then what u gonna test lol

U should be upgrading 2nd unit not trying to find a hero thats better against tanks

[quick fractal]

😑 not for beating tanks testing survivability against 2 hero

[echo coyote]

2 hero??

[quick fractal]

Like how you attack a whale to see where you stand

😑😑😑😑😑😑, I’m done..

[echo coyote]

Thats not testing

If I hit a whale with ben I would do better than if I hit with AF meta, doesn't mean ben is better

[wanton rock]

not necessarily all i have, but for example, you need to attack building with multiple types, need to know how your air will do the best🤷 also to know if Serval worth upgrading for new players who doesn't have heroes yet

your units will end up fighting all types

[echo coyote]

If ur air hits army ur prob losing, no hero is going to prevent that. Im still confused as to what ur actually testing

Serval is ultra whale food, simple as that

Small players do not test heros

That would require them to actually upgrade the heros..

[wanton rock]

small players ask whales to test heroes for them they don't just blindly upgrade heroes without testing

[wanton rock]

lmao. you know its not that simple, yeah? depends on stats, and also, by how much you lose is part of the question lol.

[echo coyote]

Then how will they follow this

[echo coyote]

U can lose by very different %s when hitting army with air depending on where army procs and if u survive to even have 1 proc

Its going to be different every single time even with the same heros

Navy is way more consistent to hit as they pretty much follow a pattern

And u can clearly see the difference 80% of the time

Also its actually helpful since airforce is meant to hit navy

[wanton rock]

so you saying just use aya tsuru tian mu, right? because test are useless and all heroes are the same

[echo coyote]

?

Care to explain that one lol

If u use Selina max prime against army, u could very well have a report where u lose by 80%, or 50%, etc just bc of how army proc

[wanton rock]

you saying test against all types are useless, i don't get what your point. do you seriously think tests are useless? or you need to test against the same type only because against/with suppression is automatically win/lose?

[echo coyote]

Same type is useless bc air v air is just luck

[wanton rock]

so you saying test are useless, just, all heroes are the same, its all luck, use aya tian tsuru

[echo coyote]

I'm saying testing air v navy is better than air v army

[echo coyote]

When did I say all heros are the same?

[wanton rock]

if tests are useless, then how can you know if hero is better or not?

[echo coyote]

By hitting navy instead of army

[wanton rock]

so testing against one type only?

do you think you gonna be fighting one type only?

[echo coyote]

Usually testing against same type is also useful, but its air so🤷‍♂️

[echo coyote]

Whats the point of testing against army?

What do u learn from that?

[wanton rock]

you need to know how hero does against all types. you'll end up fighting all of them.

yes, procs matters, always, but with a lot of reports, you can start seeing differences

[echo coyote]

Ur not gonna build air to fight against army, so why test against them as if u are

[wanton rock]

[echo coyote]

Some heros will do better against army then others, that doesn't make it the better hero

[wanton rock]

i give up. enjoy your day bro. this is going no where

[echo coyote]

Its because you haven't answered a single question of mine lmao

U hit army with air, and lose. U switch to new hero, hit army, and u might do better. Does that mean the new hero is worth it for u?

I just don't understand why u would want to upgrade a hero based on how it does against army

It makes absolutely zero sense

[formal anchor]

#📱│game-discussion 👀👀

[echo coyote]

U learn nothing from this air v army interaction

[shut osprey]

😂 what did I miss?

Here let me give my 2 cents on this

All 3 of these are within 100% of my air for hp and atk and damage inc and damage decrease are only like 2-4% off

[shut osprey]

You learn a lot actually like where you sit on the scale in a fight not to mention what hero’s to avoid when fight as air i recommend stay away from prey and crom and mega when fight

And I’m a SVS let’s say you have to defend a solo tower not covered with your main march or your base and if they send army then you know what you can bounce

Plus a lot of players can’t afford a second unit type and it’s often times better to full perk your main march instead of start a second unit type just for it to be outdated with no perks

[echo coyote]

Not sure wym by the whole scale thing, if ur testing on ur own server

[echo coyote]

I mean ur gonna find out either way by letting them hit u lol, its not much of a choice

[shut osprey]

The scale of where your march fits in a fight like whales are top of the scale and ftp MM’s that are built terribly are bottom

Poorly build whales are mid ofc

[echo coyote]

This still doesn't make an argument for testing heros against army as u won't ever upgrade an AF hero just bc it does well against army

You upgrade air heros that do well against navy

[shut osprey]

Look at Maximo why did everyone call him over powered again oh ya cause he would wipe any type of march at the same level as the march he’s placed in

[echo coyote]

Ur not testing Maximo tho, we all know how Maximo is good

[shut osprey]

Ya but I’m saying when he was new. How did we find that out again? Oh ya it was tested against all types plus look at the devs and the post they make about the new hero metas they show against all types

[echo coyote]

Sure max is a rare exception, but how does this relate to testing against army?

[merry scroll]

maximo is an exception but testing serval selina max against army and then comparing it to serval max optimus against army is just not it

[shut osprey]

But it is you have to test these things plus if a hero is better then it’s intended purpose then ya it can get moved like prime being in a air march instead of army because he’s better in the air march these things have to be tested and if they aren’t then how will we know

[echo coyote]

I dont see a single scenario where u would upgrade an AF hero just bc it does better against army lol

If it doesn't do better against navy then the last one, whats the point

[shut osprey]

Maximo and Selina and prime is the same case technically

[merry scroll]

you can test it sure but its not really gonna be reliable to use it as evidence of how good a hero is really there will be not many scenarios where the army has those lvl of stats and same proc rates and same heroes

[shut osprey]

You test a hero I’m not saying upgrade I’m saying test

[echo coyote]

U cant test with a 1 star hero

[merry scroll]

but definitely without a doubt test against army its just not as reliable as you might think, it gives a idea of how fights would go so its 100% worth to test it but still not that reliable

[wanton rock]

if you can beat navy with it, but will lose to army with half your stats, then I'd never upgrade it, because any f2p army can beat me🤷 of course you don't upgrade based on how it do against army alone. but you need to see it does ok against all types

[merry scroll]

testing air against army should be last priority to base an opinion about a hero

[shut osprey]

Whales will test for us as said if you read up you keep trying to argue it’s pointless to test a hero tho because you think “Oh air vs navy is the only thing that will ever happen” which isn’t the case that’s like making the argument perks are useless which they aren’t often times it’s better to perk a march fully then have 2 types of units where one march can get outdated each month

[shut osprey]

It needs to be tested still I’m not gonna want a hero that can do ok against navy but is a instant loss against army when army is more common then navy in this game

[echo coyote]

Obviously air v army happens, but what is testing against that going to prove? What information do u gain that would effect how u upgrade ur heros?

[shut osprey]

The reason prime is in air is because of army

[echo coyote]

The reason prime is in air is bc its an amazing hero lol

[merry scroll]

yeah ik like i said test it for sure

[echo coyote]

Its better against navy then everything else besides like saker lvl7

[shut osprey]

And how do we knows it’s a amazing hero again?

[echo coyote]

Because I've tested it against navy

[merry scroll]

ok you’re both dum

#📱│game-discussion

[shut osprey]

It had to be tested fully for it to be good and another example I can give is Ben being used in Max traps under weakening towers in EL @loud belfry can back me on that one

[echo coyote]

Prime does do better against army then other heros, thats not why u should upgrade him tho. I did it because the effect prime has against navy, which is waay larger

[merry scroll]

3 stack ben hard counters the strat

[shut osprey]

Ben vs Ben +max 🤔

[echo coyote]

Hitting weakening is an entirely different situation

[shut osprey]

Lies

[echo coyote]

[merry scroll]

yep max 3 stack mid row weakening trap gets countered by ben’s shield completely

[shut osprey]

But your air would be better against navy with mega so why not use mega?

[shut osprey]

That’s why you use Ben under the weakening with max

[merry scroll]

his shield only works on attack

[echo coyote]

Cause I had prime before mega lol

[shut osprey]

And put 2 extra stacks of ships in the front of that mid

[wicked quarry]

Just because max does a stupid amount of damage it doesn't mean who will win
Stats and heroes still matter

[shut osprey]

But you would do better with mega against navy so why not get mega

[merry scroll]

yeah but then its not exactly a maximo trap

[echo coyote]

Only when 1k stat dif

[wicked quarry]

Then the 1k person above will win, unless stupidly lucky

[shut osprey]

But it is that’s a half march

[echo coyote]

Anything below that and u can still win with good proc

[wicked quarry]

Nah

[echo coyote]

If ur max proc and hit 1 column then gg

[wicked quarry]

🤦🏻

[shut osprey]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[merry scroll]

true but its not the value you’re looking for when someone who uses an actual march not with ben does hit the trap which more often than not they use something other than ben

[wicked quarry]

Remind me to never transfer to 779, gonna end up losing braincells if I do

[echo coyote]

Thats also what I said, 1k stat dif and usually that air will always win. Below that could go either way

[shut osprey]

Everyone already knows this lol

[echo coyote]

Oh no, salt papi won't transfer here. What a shame

If u dont think a 600, 700% stat dif air cant go either way then u gotta be blind

[merry scroll]

@shut osprey actually nvm i forgot about encirclement 20% dmg so yeah i can mix a boat in the traps when i do have that

[shut osprey]

Lol

[merry scroll]

i’ll just use two stacks of planes and 1 stack of boat 😎

[wicked quarry]

"Just use Max and no heroes"
That's you liv

[merry scroll]

how to beat this navy guys

[wicked quarry]

Use Max apparently

[echo coyote]

600% stat dif btw

[shut osprey]

That’s rare tho 1 aya proc and 0 maximo procs

[echo coyote]

Ye kinda funny

[merry scroll]

it be like that lol you’re right tho its hella reliant on whos maximo triggers first/more/crits

[wicked quarry]

Nah

[echo coyote]

Thats all I'm saying

[wicked quarry]

Not always

[echo coyote]

And people out here pissing their pants

Lemme try and find another AF to hit in WZ

[quick fractal]

It was a lucky hit lol

[shut osprey]

Both of these are attacking and defending
Person on left has 50+ dmg and 300-400+ atk/hp

[wicked quarry]

My point exactly

Guessing they was testing serval too

[merry scroll]

maximo proc diff again tho, second report is how it should be every time with that big of a stat gap

[echo coyote]

Its hard to test how good a hero is when its Maximo just procing more than the enemys tbh

Like 4 procs v 1, serval didnt have much say in that battle

And 4v2

Like the reason the first report is at 38% is bc enemy max proc twice as much as the 2nd report

[merry scroll]

well we’d have to watch replay to know for sure

[merry scroll]

but it did less damage 2 procs 10t 1 proc 12.5t

[echo coyote]

Oh, ig it was normal procs

[merry scroll]

like you said max vs max is all luck tho

[echo coyote]

Honestly what I dont like about air is how dependent it is on max

I've had 1 time that I lost to a navy weaker then by AF just bc their aka nailed my middle row

Only ever happened once, but man it hurt

I hit them again and ended up winning by like 80-90% lol

[severe linden]

The difference between air and navy or army is that army and navy have early procs. But air sacks all early procs and hits you hard with later procs

Everything is in the back two rows vs having all the damage in the first 2 rows

[formal anchor]

Left side all level 7 exclusive

[hushed seal]

Lol 😂 so let’s come to the conclusion. Is new hero good? Worth an upgrade?

[echo coyote]

Unless ur whale i wouldn't bother

From what I've heard better than saker, but not better then prime

Imo it will get replaced by next air hero

[severe linden]

Anyone got any reports on max , serval , Selina vs army ? Compared to max Selina prime vs army?

[weak horizon]

Airforce shouldn't fight army.

It should sink Navy.

[severe linden]

It’s to test the effectiveness of the new hero , you can’t test the new hero against air cuz then it would be a battle of maximo procs , and winning against navy as af is a given

So who else would you test against 🤣🤣

[echo coyote]

So u would test a hero designed to beat navy against army? Makes sense

[foggy obsidian]

Why not though if it does better vs army ur better of using it!

[merry scroll]

nothing wrong with testing its just not accurate to base an opinion off it, i assume is what you trying to say u nub

[echo coyote]

Ye

[lapis pewter]

I want to know how 😂😂

[quick fractal]

MAMINO NEEDS TO BE BUFFED

[severe linden]

How is it not accurate to base an opinion off of it? We already know it does well against navy. We Already know when going against af it’s a maximo proc battle. So why not against army?

I mean yeah ur prolly not gonna win , but I feel like it would show how well it defends

Like does the damage of the burn and damage increase of reg attack from serval help af do better than prime shield ? Etc etc

[merry scroll]

yeah i said test it no reason not to, i just mean the navy vs navy and air vs air is more important.

[severe linden]

But the point is those things are already been tested but no one tested against army . We already know the results of going against navy and af

[wicked quarry]

Can u tap “ Attribute “ and send ss?

[merry scroll]

yeah exactly… im not the one you should argue to this about 🤣 all i said was testing is good do it just don’t base an air hero entirely off its battles against army

[severe linden]

Ohh fsfs

🤣

[merry scroll]

yeah lol i agree with you

[echo coyote]

How well a hero defends against a unit type that gets nearly all its dmg from procs isn't a good test imo. If enemy prey gets 1 more proc then ur last battle against army the data is pretty much useless. There are older heros that will do better against army then some of the meta heros, but that doesn't mean anything bc u still lose either way. If ur picking a hero that does better against army all ur gonna do is lose more units to navy lol

If u test AF v navy, u can clearly see how much better u beat them with new hero v old hero. I dont see why u think that info is not more important than how u lose v army lol

I'll never understand people who try to build heros to beat army with AF, makes absolutely no sense.

Its as simple as, do you build AF to beat navy? If answer is yes then pick heros that do best against navy

[plain forum]

Wait Serval beats navy better than prime?

[echo coyote]

Serval big suck

Unless ur whale who cant run prime on AF

Slightly better than saker, but gonna get replaced by next air hero imo

[plain forum]

Yeah was about to say lol

[severe linden]

Ur not testing to see if it beats army ur testing to see all sides of the coin.

The game isn’t just about hitting or getting hit by navy and af

[echo coyote]

Sure, but army is designed to beat AF. U can't counter that with hero choice

[severe linden]

Yes those may be a big part of if the hero is good or not , but you can’t ignore the army part too🤣💀

[echo coyote]

So no amount of testing is going to actually unlock some secret technique to beat army

Like it gives no info besides confirming u still lose to army lol

[severe linden]

Again it’s not about countering , it’s about how it reacts to getting hit by army 💀

[echo coyote]

"Huh my AF still gets slapped here, good to know" lol

[severe linden]

How badly you lose to army? How many hits it takes to beat The army march ur getting hit by etc

[echo coyote]

That just depends on max

And the army itself

U could lose in the 1st row to like 3 prey proc

[severe linden]

Congrats on making by the assumption and for all we know it’s all talk , there’s not battle report to show. Hence y I asked for a report against army lmao. Ur missing the point here

[echo coyote]

This info on how many hits it takes only applies to the person ur testing against, which makes it useless during all events lol

Testing against ur opponents army during svs makes sense, testing to DECIDE on what hero to upgrade it makes no sense

[severe linden]

That’s for all testing🤣 that’s why we test w people that have similar stats

Again it doesn’t DECIDE on if the hero is good or not . It just gives a more fuller picture . I’ve been saying this over and over again

[echo coyote]

Serval is gonna look good in reports since only whales have upgraded her, and thats the only place it works

[severe linden]

Yeah cuz of the g10 and 100% burn proc rate. But how well does that work against army? No one knows since no one has tested yet (shown battle report) so we can only assume

[echo coyote]

Would depend on armys proc luck

[severe linden]

There’s no battle report to back it up lmao that’s why I’m asking for one to confirm if that’s true 🤣

[echo coyote]

U have anyone on ur server with full val AF?

Idk if anyone is gonna throw a full val march at each other with svs tourney coming up

[severe linden]

Yes but there are more people here that test these things hence why I’m asking

[echo coyote]

Best chance is waiting till next svs

[severe linden]

It’s been almost a full week since new player has been released. And as a whale you have Lancaster to repair and scarmanga to pump Val’s . That’s not an excuse u should use

[echo coyote]

U cant fit 200 vals in repair bay lol

At the very least ur losing 120 vals

For one report

[severe linden]

What’s the diff between that and going against af vs af?

U have a chance of losing af vs af too since it’s a battle of max procs

[echo coyote]

Not much, im not a fan of AF v AF tests bc its literally just who has better max proc 90% of the time

[severe linden]

Exactly, you can’t say ur 100% going to win every af vs af test march

So ur planning on losing those 200 Val’s or reg troops anyways

Again a bad excuse to not test

[echo coyote]

U can repair all vals in svs

Since u have infinite repair bay

[severe linden]

Yeah then test in svs 🤣 but it also doesn’t hurt to ask before also

[echo coyote]

If u can con someone into spending those vals id be proud

[severe linden]

What exactly are you trying to say in the past 30min of you talking w me about this topic?🤣 first you say that testing against army is irrelevant and then proceed to back ur claim up w assumptions, then u say “oh you should wait for svs tourney “ what exactly is ur point ur trying to tell me 💀

[echo coyote]

If u want reports then wait till then, didnt say I agree with it lol

[severe linden]

👍

[severe linden]

This isn’t good , as AF u should be hard stomping navy , the results shouldn’t be this close

Having 16% remaining should happen if you are hitting marches significantly larger in size

Like this

Usually when hitting navy marches around the same march size as you , you should end up w having more than 60% of ur march left over

[last finch]

It depends on stats

You can have same march size but very different stats

[proper dragon]

This is why I hate Air.. look at the stat difference they are in 800% . Even if it is suppression supported the result shouldn't be like this

[merry scroll]

and thats not even a very good air setup not even 5* maximo

[severe linden]

yup and that also depends on hero comp, hes running 3 heros that deal proc damage and I have 1 proc hero , 1 buff hero and 1 survivability hero

But then there are things like this that happen

[echo coyote]

The air has nearly 200% dmg inc lol

[severe linden]

When nothing procs😭😭

[proper dragon]

He doesn't have enough atk stats for the dmg multiplier

[chrome acorn]

What’s the biggest march size anyone has ever achieved? With the EL +25 yk

[brazen nacelle]

Over 300

[visual gorge]

305

[chrome acorn]

Imma need a fact check on that cause idk

[quick fractal]

Look at take

Think he had like a 330 March in el something dumb like that

[chrome acorn]

I know who take is. However I saw his march at 288 last time I saw

[weary phoenix]

LACC in WZ svs was 280

[chrome acorn]

I’m actually speechless. All those accounts I bet add up to over 10 million dollars spent

[foggy obsidian]

Easily

[chrome acorn]

Oh it’s 25 accounts. I bet over 30 million is a better estimate

[foggy obsidian]

I'd say 15

[silent gust]

Outside of EL it is possible though would take allot of $ like more then take has spent just for decos. It is possible to have somewhere like 320ish maybe 330 march size. Few decos have been released since last mathing was done

[wanton rock]

take was 285, before the current event, and without El tech. so 310 in El, 315 after this event.

[wanton rock]

nah. most account don't get to 1m. maybe like 5 of them are over 1m, but most not.

[quick fractal]

Ken is almost 100mil cp

[hallow bone]

Ugh. <@&667607304300134430>

[velvet barn]

Sus> geekgod 😝

[hallow bone]

Only 11. Booooo

[quick fractal]

Lmao

Probably new to sandtables

[hallow bone]

Bout to go teacher mode

[velvet barn]

Nobody else even has two 5star heroes

[hallow bone]

Dang

[quick fractal]

I wish I could collect their alliance gift

[weak horizon]

It's just 2 months old server

[hallow bone]

Not 100T alr tho.

[chrome acorn]

To be that large how many lvls of march size is that. Like lvl 9 March size rare?!

[wanton rock]

10

[chrome acorn]

Wtf 😳

[last finch]

More like doesn't have lv320 special effects

[ornate glen]

Hola

[shell palm]

Would you say the same for navy against army? Air is broken and the game has lost its balance.

[severe linden]

Can’t say Fs cuz I don’t really run navy. But I can say it’s about the same for army vs af . I’ve had 150 army marches hit my 182 march and they won with ~30% give or take

It may vary since proc rates for navy and army is diff compared to af

Maximo has a high proc rate while navy relies on rage counts

Army heros proc rate arnt as high as maximo

Wbu what are ur thoughts

[shell palm]

Neh navy shitty at the moment, I see tankers whooping air players with higher March size and stats most of the time with a decent March but then it’s never the same for navy

[severe linden]

I feel like the thing about navy is that if you introduce a damage hero into the lineup then navy becomes op with all the rebuffs . So I don’t see navy getting better unless they introduce a hero that drags the fight on longer for navy to proc more and wear enemy march down

Kind of like a bruiser style

[hazy cobalt]

Not sure if this is where to post this, but is anyone finding that having max,sel,serv is really difficult have your center row survive a good army? Any suggestions? I’m finding megatron guys are removing my back row before I get a chance to laser.

Like, I was doing better with aya because at least she provided some HP.

[echo coyote]

Thats bc serval is not a very good hero, and ur getting hit by army

[wintry siren]

Wenig…

[severe linden]

Prime 🤣

[plain forum]

Yeah the thing is Selina pairs Max so well it’s like Miku always says. You don’t really need more damage. You need a way to keep your planes long enough to let Max rip apart the other team and prime is the best in the game for that.
A real replacement would be an Erin/Yuu style damage reduction shield specifically for air only plus some trigger
Heck even a Springfield type defence only buff would’ve been great because you don’t really need the damage reduction as much when attacking

[cold terrace]

Swap serval to prime

[hazy cobalt]

Thanks for the info.

[wanton rock]

spring himself would've been great buff to 2 first row only, its only encirclement unit in last row with max anyway lol

[brazen nacelle]

Both sides gold weapon and armor

[serene parrot]

Pain

[merry scroll]

how tf that air has worse stats than mine and i’ve never won against someone’s navy like dat

[echo coyote]

Tbf Optimus kinda popped off

And navy has no dmg dec to deal with max laser

[merry scroll]

still i could never do that i guess it might be due to really good crits as well i’ll hit someone with that exact same setup again tmrw and see

[serene parrot]

I didn’t even notice that how we got the same amount of triggers but they deal double damage lol

[echo coyote]

Proc dmg relies on how many units are in the stack, so that can vary even with big dif in stats

[serene parrot]

Ye I’m MM and they’re CE so I guess that helps them a bit too

[echo coyote]

Would have to watch the replay to see exactly what happened

[merry scroll]

the suppressions seem decent/not very high lvl too that air must’ve gotten really lucky with what your akatora and optimus hit and what his heroes hit on your march

[wanton rock]

pretty weak I'd say

spend moar

[brazen nacelle]

Gimme then i will do

[merry scroll]

buff maximo fr

[serene parrot]

Upgrade tron then easy clap navy

[merry scroll]

who to 5* first maximo or tron

im thinking i 5* megatron and upgrade his exclusive to lvl4 since its only lvl3 rn

[serene parrot]

I didn’t even notice ur max was 4* tbh. I would guess Maximo but I have no clue. Miku would know

[merry scroll]

i mainly want 5* megatron first cause my army stronker than my air by a decent 200% stats thats why

[serene parrot]

Yeah in that case I’d do tron

[merry scroll]

yep im almost gonna have lvl4 exclusive on him too so that will be nice

[gusty rapids]

On atk

[chrome acorn]

Sus. Towers buffs? What’s going on here

[wet sigil]

No ATK buff lineup, Nereid sleeping, Akatora on attack.

[sly folio]

No atk buffer on def

[soft pulsar]

It's should be done as soon as possible 😅
While defence

[oak valve]

Can someone explain the limited time dmg inc? If i click the (i) its listed under 'others'

[quartz venture]

Dragon breath skills

[oak valve]

Cheers😅🤦‍♂️ slow morning🤣

[loud basin]

Proud of you mega

[burnt oriole]

Tqs😎

[shut osprey]

Dragons breath base skin skill

Oop someone already said that my b

[loud basin]

[shell palm]

Anyone knows how the pantheon skin works?

Do I need to be in the opponent’s server for the buffs to work or will it work either ways?

[woven haven]

Yes, pantheon only works in svs if u're in the opponent server, in ur own server it doesn't work

[shell palm]

Waste lol, thanks

[echo coyote]

Also works in EL and woo

[raven galleon]

So it doesn’t work in your own server during svs?

[vestal socket]

Yes,,, also the void skin 20 percent dmg decrease

Pantheon good only if you are willing to sacrifice your troops in opponent server during svs

[raven galleon]

Ahh shoiiit I thought it worked during svs in any map 🥲

[vestal socket]

Mountain Academy is better option

[raven galleon]

I didn’t get it 🤦🏼

[vestal socket]

If you have Mountain Academy skin, much better to use during svs,, specially when you are defending your server

[raven galleon]

I missed that skin broski probably get new air skin that seems good

[vestal socket]

Well if you are air user,, then the new skin is good for you

[manic girder]

Maximo need buff !!

[surreal violet]

Never thought i’d see the day

[manic girder]

New navy/army heroes are too strong

[surreal violet]

Although I acknowledge that maximo’s trigger rate was silently nerfed…I still have no problem wiping out navy with airforce.

[ivory dragon]

Is it better to replace Saker with Serval?

[echo coyote]

Neither

[humble dawn]

Yes

[humble dawn]

Replace both with prime

Only use serval if ex7

[chrome acorn]

Void skin?

[full shoal]

Last EL skin

[chrome acorn]

My account wasn’t old enough for it 😭

[full shoal]

You can still get it in the next EL for 50 tokens

[chrome acorn]

I’ll get it then lol

[crimson widget]

How often does the eternal land event occur?

[full shoal]

It’s random, but expect at least 4 months between each event

[crimson widget]

I see. Thanks

[barren pier]

What Mountain academy would be, I don't see it among the skins.thanks

[finite wasp]

Looks like a green mountain

[vestal socket]

This one

[barren pier]

Thanks

[last finch]

Mountain academy is the 2nd level so you see different name for first one

[barren pier]

Yes,thanks

[wicked quarry]

Open question : Someone did a test Seaspray / Erin / Yuu ? All ES 5

[fringe iris]

Saw some people trying that line up, it was garbage. You need an attack buffer

[wicked quarry]

Yes it’s the point but I did some tests and like Bailos / Seaspray / Erin or Nemo / Seaspray / Erine or Nereid / Seaspray / Erin. My point after to have look all reports is Seaspray becomes huge with a debuff hero like Yuu but not gonna remove Erin so I’m wondering 🙄

[haughty bear]

But that'd mean your other heroes and every stack is doing less damage just so seaspray can do more. If he even does more damage due to no attack buffer

[formal anchor]

Bailos seaspray and Erin seem to be safe combo atm

[wicked quarry]

Thanks ☺️

[wicked quarry]

I did the comparaison and yes you lose a bit from Seaspray but in total you do more

[formal anchor]

<@&667607304300134430>

[brazen nacelle]

Pls select your own language in #🌍│language-select then can u write with other with the same language. Thanks 🙏🏻

[crimson widget]

If you could get Erinyes' exclusive skill to LV 7, you can use Bassel instead of Yuu

[hallow bone]

Good shi

[surreal crescent]

No clue how he won...

Maximo too op

[loud basin]

lvl 9 supremacy

having a lvl 9 plane is straight away flex

[stray mauve]

I had a level 1 for 1 year then it disappeared 😔

[placid robin]

You put a little bit Rockfield in your air, use tsuru

[surreal crescent]

Tsuru just 2 star 🥲

[placid robin]

Gotta 5* her, she meta

[arctic matrix]

Oh that's you! 😆💪

[glossy chasm]

Who are you ?

I burnt you ?

[hallow bone]

I'm batman

[arctic matrix]

We fought today

[wicked quarry]

Damn💀

[glossy chasm]

Yes i know but i fought lot pf people bro

I made 800k point. YOU ARE AN AMAZING SERV THE FOR THIS SVS BRO ❤️1258❤️

[arctic matrix]

You got part of my planes march and later I fought with you but with an empty base at the end 😆

[glossy chasm]

Oh i attacked or you ?

It was me

You are very good ❤️

[arctic matrix]

Gg 💪💪

[hallow bone]

Noice

[foggy obsidian]

Who won in the 591/1258 svs

[foggy obsidian]

Nice win👌

[glossy chasm]

Oh nice nathan is very strong

[echo coyote]

Dang thats a crazy amount of kills

[glossy chasm]

Yes

[subtle flume]

And it’s actually less than the first time

[jolly pebble]

👀

[supple smelt]

”Maximo is so OP.” Navy since the game start

[placid robin]

Gotta whale even more

[quick fractal]

Hahaha

[wanton rock]

lmao you know its just bad example, right bad luck or worse stats

[silent gust]

Apparently my army had fun while I was napping.all def no weakening

[quick fractal]

What are your stats?

[silent gust]

High

[placid robin]

WHAT ARE THOSE?! (vals)

[silent gust]

Re upload y'all don't need to hear me and my roommate talking nonsense 😂

[placid robin]

I know what they do... but why... why would you build them

[silent gust]

To gather with sheesh

[green condor]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I only make AF and Navy Vals 😅

[echo coyote]

They don't help you gather tho..

[quick fractal]

“Load increase 300%”

[silent gust]

And that's exactly what I use for load 300%

[kind crest]

that's a huge load

[green condor]

Load is the amount of RSS each one can hold, so this means they can send less troops

[haughty bear]

I'd way rather send 2 stacks of regular tanks to gather than spend the odinium on those tanks and keep repairing them

[silent gust]

I have to send 2 with those

[green condor]

This conversation is less about the battle report now so we should probably take it to #📱│game-discussion now

[echo coyote]

I mean yeah it increases load size, but unless ur gathering gold its completely useless

It doesn't "help" in any way bc u always got troops for gathering

[cold terrace]

Starscream had no skills on either 😂

[quick fractal]

Yup and max is too weak still

Silly af mains

[shell verge]

Other heroes have very much caught up to even out suppression advantages

[shut osprey]

Red pandas are the best at flying planes

[quick fractal]

That’s just sad

[eternal valve]

Fútbol Champagne 🍾🤑

[brazen nacelle]

AF not even 1 purple equipment lol.

[wanton rock]

that dmg tho

[brazen nacelle]

Not even 1 purple and look at atk and hp lol.

Looks like a joke for me 😅

[winged glacier]

That maximo 😪

[shell palm]

What’s the best navy setup right now?

[shut osprey]

Whales base stength out way the navy

Side note what kinda air has no equipment but 3 hero’s 5*

[radiant whale]

Not doing navy is best setup

[shell palm]

So to switch then

Army or Airforce?

[wet sigil]

both

[daring hound]

Hi

How can I contact 851?

[brazen nacelle]

He 0 purple 0 perks - me full perky 2 gold

Lmao what a joke

[shut osprey]

Lmao what

[brazen nacelle]

Yep thats a little bit not fair

[shut osprey]

Nah just bad procs also look at damage stat

[supple smelt]

This scarry, we back to TW since the game start, navy for all.

[craggy spindle]

new

[brazen nacelle]

Why bad procs? Navy has fixed procs 😂

Only bailout have always bad procs but that dmg is not worth from her

[fading creek]

Can someone have a explanation for “HOW THE F…. I LOST “? ….me Highman attacking….

[hallow bone]

Triggers?

Also, regular March over kats army atk and rare dmg inc over Megatrons army atk

[sharp thicket]

Watch replay

[latent sage]

What is nemo ex?

[latent sage]

Nemo ex?

[short sentinel]

• Crit/ dodge chance (check replay cause your opponent use Crit skill too)
• Should replace ATK skill with DMG Dec for PVP
• Hero skill chances + march size?

[shell verge]

5

[latent sage]

Heros perked ?

[shell verge]

12/12 perks and maxed suppression

[latent sage]

Uff 🥹

🥲

[shell verge]

Obviously the navy player had favourable triggers (Nemo silenced Max, and Erin and Sea kept on hitting the mid row), which makes the outcome of the battle perfectly fine. It just goes to show that in terms of meta heroes for each branch, Max no longer stands out as much as he used to

[latent sage]

❤️

I got the same heros as you but not fully perked

About to get nemo 5 star

[pearl nymph]

Encirclement for Serval? Yes or no?

[humble dawn]

Most people say she is useless to non-whales, but that looks pretty convincing

[formal anchor]

Serval kaka poopoo

[pearl nymph]

Rockfield did better, but Serval is cute, so..

[winged glacier]

7

[sly folio]

use DMG increase skill instead of atk increase

[solemn stratus]

They unlocked 6th skill slot and yet i can decrease their hp to 69%, epic number (defending)

[hallow bone]

No prey triggers

[solemn stratus]

Yeah but that proved that im doing pretty good without prey's skill

[astral arch]

Any af can beat that navy, even my grandma don’t use those old hero anymore

[hallow bone]

Probably just perking

[humble dawn]

was about to say the same thing, probably hero perking and swapped heros or something

[hallow bone]

Bumpy asf road. But, worth it

[humble dawn]

personally best to try get a range of heros for perk farming, some af, army and navy

like nimitz, kat and idk rock

[hallow bone]

The Rock

[chrome acorn]

Honestly may be just an old account. Not everyone neeeds to spend to get to the extra skill

[real idol]

Hello

[idle marten]

@lost glacier @chrome acorn hello guys ... This channel is for battle reports you can send gif in #🧋fun-with-gifs or #☕│off-topic

[faint narwhal]

You finished the heavy troop

[weak horizon]

Anish 😂

[faint narwhal]

😂😂

[severe linden]

Rockfield didn’t do better , it’s ur Maximo that did better Lmaoo

[mellow gyro]

Big 🐳

[sinful orbit]

Should I use Heavy Trooper on World Boss or not? If yes, which slot?

[wanton rock]

its not garuda there is prey in there

[hallow bone]

Iz that a new hero

[turbid tendon]

DE👈👉ATK

[zinc elm]

Why won’t my airforce hero’s trigger ?

[full shoal]

Because the HT is in the first slot so your heroes can’t trigger their skill

[zinc elm]

I had a feeling…

So pretty much maximo and saker are not good for the trooper sandtable

[zinc elm]

?

[astral island]

@zinc elm no Max and Sakar are not good PVE heroes (aka wb/ sandtable etc...)

Optimus, Prey, Selina, Megatron, Estrid are some of the top ones. Running villers/ Amelia if you dont have selina also works well.

Want a nice attack buffer that will impact all troop types and then trigger heroes whose trigger ability also compliments most troop types.

Ultimately Army does the the best in PVE

But in regard to the HT as the previous have pointed out your HT is in the front row by himself and Max for example on triggers on tiles 4 through 6. So you will need to use some of the heroes I mentioned that can proc in slot 1 (which Meg, Estrid, Prey, OP after round 1 all can proc in that slot)

[merry scroll]

all 3 of the heroes you used are useless you only use 1 stack of heavy troop in the front while maximo saker and selina all only work mid-back row

[zinc elm]

Aaaa I see… all of those troops I have at a very low level

But thank you for explaining this to me 🙏

I mean hero’s

[merry scroll]

do you not have any other 4-5 star heroes?

bumblebee would be better lol

[zinc elm]

I tried my kat earlier and she didn’t trigger either

[merry scroll]

your heavy trooper is not set to army then

[zinc elm]

Nope it wasn’t

But I mean cromwell still triggered

[merry scroll]

cromwell is universal, triggers on all types… katyusha only can trigger on army

[zinc elm]

Aaaa I gotcha

Well this is going to fun lol

Thanks again 🙏

[echo coyote]

Lmao

[zinc elm]

Don’t laugh at me

🥺

[echo coyote]

[turbid tendon]

After 24 hours you can change its place

[merry scroll]

?

[turbid tendon]

I don't want to change the place of the heavy soldier for no reason

[merry scroll]

okay good for you man

[turbid tendon]

Heavy soldier is for ground force only

It will come later for the Air Force and Navy

[merry scroll]

once again you are very lost my friend…

[turbid tendon]

From left to right

Ground Force, Air Force, Navy

[merry scroll]

that is not at all how that works

[turbid tendon]

we will see

[merry scroll]

there’s nothing that defines the heavy unit we currently have as army/navy/air no matter what you choose it copies the stats you have of the force you choose it to be there is no special condition that make it only better in one unit type it works same for all it’s just preferred to use it with maximo and have atk spd% so you can trigger maximo at start of battle

[turbid tendon]

read this

[merry scroll]

………..

again that literally changes absolutely nothing besides what kind of unit it mimics.

and for the third time you are very lost my friend…

[turbid tendon]

😒

Talking to you is literally boring

[merry scroll]

that doesn’t even make sense bro you keep saying things that are just completely wrong, plus you tagged me first for no reason and started saying things that had nothing to do with me

[severe linden]

You can pick which type you want lmao

Top left

[last finch]

That's not how it works lol

[edgy garden]

83/2000 We still need radar missions.😵

[deft nebula]

Radar mission don't give chips

[rugged bough]

You can click on the “i” icon on the top right corner of the page.

Meaning if u fancy collecting.. u can only store up to 2k chips

[ashen bramble]

Which chip is the best for 1st heavy trooper?

[plain forum]

depends how you use it, Shamir for PvE, probably Xyston for PvP
Hoplon seems kinda pointless because the heavy trooper will have higher rate of fire than normal stacks so putting it in the front row will waste the ROF advantage

[spark solar]

That’s not how it works. When all three battle units are out I can make them all airforce if I like. Or all navy.

[warm beacon]

which chip for PvP?

[astral arch]

I love Pringle

[lofty current]

xyston

[frozen ice]

سلام

[midnight meteor]

Explain? How do 800+ units not have to be repaired or downgraded?

No urgent care facility either

And no Ke points

[merry scroll]

thats because you attacked the base with a HT, attacking bases with HT repairs all the loses for the base

[midnight meteor]

What about defense? I got hit by someone (no HT) but had my HT defending and I didn’t get Ke points

[lofty current]

it will be like any normal battle then

[idle marten]

[sinful cipher]

Do one w the HT

[placid robin]

In a system mail was said trooper on attack wouldn't do anything basically...

[idle marten]

The report was in odinium

[sinful cipher]

Oh mine was full base hit 🤣

[idle marten]

Rip

[sinful cipher]

My peeeps are cool i let them know and we watch the replays laughing 🤣

[celest flower]

.

[finite wasp]

Air vs air in a nutshell

[hidden nimbus]

I didn't understand

How come???

[dire ermine]

Meh... Full vals

[lofty current]

this is insane, full perked army and level 7 excl

[sage warren]

Because of maximo ghost 👻👻

[terse epoch]

Hahahahaa

[terse epoch]

Aha hahaha hrf 11

Cheater, 😂😂😂

[lofty current]

yes 🤣 0.4% attack speed

[terse epoch]

Got you 🤣

[terse epoch]

I have seen its very broken with thus maximo

[lofty current]

super broken, but i got it on a trashy chip

[terse epoch]

True 😂

[lofty current]

this guy is maxed out and the best i do without ht is 10-30% to him while am fully buffed, but this was even without alliance red badge

[terse epoch]

Againts whales. Work great this xyston, one time and we to. Got priviliage 😂, actually maximo is really broken, becouse hit 3 rows

[terse epoch]

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 Nice one

[solemn stratus]

[quick fractal]

Nice bro you found a poor af player 😂

[solemn stratus]

My army stats are stronger than their af stats

[quick fractal]

Dude is 3hm with 500+ stats is what I’m saying

[solemn stratus]

Component issue lmao

[quick fractal]

Oh lol

[north geode]

Probably took equip down and no perks

[midnight meteor]

🐳 (kidding I’m not)

[quick fractal]

🤣🤣🤣

[hushed spade]

Anyone got any battle reports for marshal World boss for navy set up over 100aa per hit?

[frozen torrent]

@ancient bane

[ancient bane]

spicy

[frozen torrent]

his Preycis was out on a smoke break

[ancient bane]

[nimble tree]

Op and prey smoke break

[frozen torrent]

when it's in you're favor you just got to love it lol

when it's not *This game sux! OMG

[nimble tree]

Definitely in my favor. I’ve been trying to beat my friend for a while now. Saving this shot till the end of time 🤣

[frozen torrent]

get it printed and framed just to mess with him a step further haha

[short sentinel]

Wow

[plain forum]

Heavy trooper 🙃👍🏻
Air lv5 exclusives, army lv7
Air has HT, army doesn’t

[wicked quarry]

Here you go

[hushed spade]

Legend

[fleet kindle]

Is this permanent behavior? Or just temporary?

[wanton rock]

perm probably

[wanton rock]

[sharp ferry]

all those negative navy reports. they can still win against air

[quaint fiber]

[formal anchor]

Nerf navy

[wanton rock]

[formal anchor]

That's Photoshop

[wanton rock]

no, he actually did 68% damage to me, although I have better dmg+-

[weak horizon]

Prime mega maximo 😅

[wet sigil]

get Selina

[wanton rock]

made her 4* today she'll be 5* by time I'll have morale

[cold terrace]

HT diff

[north geode]

Use xyon set ... 30% dmg increas at start maximo shoot 1st and it takes 6 rounds for shimir to get to that level

[cold terrace]

You get what you’re given

[north geode]

I have the exactly same one 😅 still using xyon think it is better

[cold terrace]

6.5% atk speed…

[north geode]

You just need 0.1 to shoot 1st

And if enemi is attackinf you with ht you dont care cause you wont lose any troops

[cold terrace]

I’m not a whale so I can use this set for pve also

[north geode]

And you also cant attack with it same thing so it is ht vs no ht and 0.1 should be enough for ht to shoot 1st i am no whale also but i better work on pvp setup than pve

Cause at start better to have 30% dmg than 8 and waite for 4 round while half dead to get to 30

Just my oppinion

[cold terrace]

It’s valid opinion but me is whale

[jaunty harness]

This formation works for army too

?

[cold terrace]

I don’t see why it won’t

[cold terrace]

Btw shamshir could be better than xyston in pvp also - clearing buildings filled with troops over 8 battle rounds

Definitely the best scaling

[north geode]

Definitly best scaling but rarely any 1 on 1 pvp last more than 5 rounds and usualy in building 1st guy is strongest one so you want max dmg at start not later i belive

[echo coyote]

U dont have to run 6/6 shamsir

The set bonus really isn't that important atm

[cold terrace]

Better bonus

[echo coyote]

Xyston is just way better for pvp

[cold terrace]

For 1v1 scenario yes

[echo coyote]

The reality is ur not gonna smash through like 7 200 march players in one hit to make shamsir worth in pvp lol

And by the time u have a bigger buff ur not even facing actual marches

[cold terrace]

It takes 4 rounds to get shamshir with more DMG than xyston so no that will be 2 marches

[echo coyote]

I still don't like it lol, too situational imo

[north geode]

Yea i agree better 30% dmg right away than to w8 for it... only.good for boss there just to much dmg 18 % i belive per round more dmg

[finite wasp]

Air iSn’T BRoKeN

He attacked me btw

[wanton rock]

nott broken, you have encirclement

[finite wasp]

🤔

[blissful garnet]

Air is broken !!

[wanton rock]

20% dmg increase and 30% decrease >>> 100% def