Nintendo 64

[solar slate]

that starting girl should be where that traffic light is now, at least according to the arcade version.

[latent dagger]

what mode are you playing in?

championship or cruise the world?

[solar slate]

I checked all modes. the Fuchsia_Starting Girl should appear always when starting a race.

[latent dagger]

I can't even find footage of this so-called starting girl

but I do see footage of arcade vs n64 trophy girl. only way to know if the patch took for that one is to get a trophy.

she should be all hot bikini looking with more bouncy boobs compared to the full t-shirt less bouncy version on N64 normal

I have to get offline now for a bit. need to close things up and head home.

[solar slate]

https://youtu.be/bmS9F28Xdwc?si=qbkUJ_KLh5AqIDdk&t=29

this should be that starting girl

but thats the AC version

the N64 has traffic lights there

so the patch should in theory change quite a bit there

[latent dagger]

idk if it's just poor wording or what, but the patch states that it changes the girl's outfit, not that it adds a girl in where there was none

so I'm not sure about that one

at least, that's just what i read when reading the basic description above each patch file linked in that forum

[solar slate]

okay, I got a update. I checked both patches with a Hex Editor and they are indeed corrupted. It seems that during upload some lines of text were attached after the real end of the file. I have removed that garbage. Flips did not complain and patched the rom. However, I still can not find what the patches are supposed to do.

[chrome quest]

That's interesting. Id need to take a look, not tried the composite blend yet. For the image, part of what I found was the HDMI output was also lacking content towards the edges that hardware has, so I'd imagine the whole image aspect is tied up in that. Odd little work around for the little shift though

[solar slate]

I found a video on youtube. That shows that somehow they have replaced the traffic lights at race start with the starting girl (propably from Cruisn USA). But I do not see such changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFTowsgPr7Y

[solar slate]

The matter has been solved. The patches now work as intended. I will repack the patches properly and add some information to it later today. As bonus, we also got a patch for Cruis'n USA to show the Arcade version Girls too.

[zinc dew]

What do the patches do?

[mortal panther]

They alter the game's code.

[zinc dew]

I laughed out loud at that, well played lol

[solar slate]

well its true XD

the patches are mostly adding back Arcade visuals and censor removal. two patches alter the collision to that of the Arcade version and fix collision problems on the China track.

@latent dagger in order to make the girls visible you have to activate that in the options/screen settings. It is by default off and replaces the starting girl with traffic lights.

that is very irritating. I know the game since it came out and always thought it was totally cut from the game. Who messes with options anyway 🤣

It seems, with a skilled hacker we could even restore the animal collisions. The routines for it seem to be left in the game.

[topaz otter]

Looks like they straight ported the arcade rom

[solar slate]

they did

for all 3 games

[topaz otter]

We can probably turn it back on with a gameshark code

[solar slate]

not if you miss the assets

and that seems the case for cruis'n USA

[topaz otter]

https://datacrystal.tcrf.net/wiki/Cruis'n_USA_(Nintendo_64)/Notes

[solar slate]

Robby hasn't said anything yet but belongs this topic to games and patches?

"but all the chunks are invisible. " << yes because they missing the assets

[zinc dew]

Thank you for being considerate. It depends on the flow of the conversation. It’s pretty fast and loose but I think patch conversations apply to both the platform and the #games-and-patches channel.

It’s more on topic than me asking how people pronounce Jaguar in #1055574003810578503 anyways lol

[latent dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6NekSO_EfA&t=39s

timestamped for your convenience

[solar slate]

mhm when in doubt maybe ask a Jaguar?

😂

[zinc dew]

WDYD?

[green epoch]

https://tenor.com/nQEKaeFqXsQ.gif

[latent dagger]

seriously? playing Goldeneye MP with Pierce Brosnan?

bruh

[glossy lake]

Um, he is holding a gun…

[latent dagger]

so?

I would feel safe

[chilly ember]

Pierce brosnan is awful at goldeneye so i'd destroy him in a game

[latent dagger]

that's totally fine, but you at least get to say you hung out and played GoldenEye with James Bond himself

[green epoch]

That’s what the gun is for

[topaz otter]

I beat pierce brosnan at goldeneye

someone asks him how that makes him feel

he says I was shaken, but not stirred

[neat sierra]

A bird in the hand is worth two on the guitar

[chilly ember]

Wise words

[stone pilot]

Hi, I'd like to order one Bill Clinton and Al Gore playing Zelda, please

[green epoch]

The Pepsi can is a nice touch

[zinc dew]

Man, it’s getting more convincing

[stone pilot]

That was unfortunately the most direct giveaway for me, since that style of the Pepsi logo is too new

They introduced that logo in 2008

[chilly ember]

Unfortunately I wasn't the one who created the prompt, I saw it posted in the GTA3 Dreamcast port discord but after seeing robby's post with Pierce Brosnan, it was only fitting i reposted it here so i take no credit lol

[green epoch]

Yeah, for me it was more about how much of a schill he was for pepsi. If that photo were really taken, there absolutely would have been a pepsi can facing towards the camera right there.

The dove perched on the guitar, however......

[latent dagger]

Thread is full. Needs another purge.

[raw oriole]

Purge time! Thank you for your service, just rejoin the thread if you like. Discord has this weird 1000 poster limit in threads.

Okay, starting just after Hodor who was the last one last time I did this.

🧐

[onyx minnow]

memories of irc channel takeovers

[raw oriole]

Heh!

Yeah, does look like that

[onyx minnow]

next you'll +o all your bots

[raw oriole]

I would dearly love a Discord-provided wildcarded /kick

[weary palm]

Wild

[raw oriole]

Ah crap. The list moved.

@weary palm

Sorry 😄

Ok! That was a lot. Sorry all. To prevent this happening again, don't be offline, and be chatty enough that you don't have a plain white username 🙂

Silly Discord and its silly limits.

[chrome quest]

I gazed upon the hand in the air, chuckling as it tossed my brethren aside, cast into lands unknown. Will I survive this tyrants whims this day.....
It appears so. PHEW!

[little socket]

You made scroll

Then again you put robby in his place

Mixed feelings

[weary palm]

Yo

[raw oriole]

Particularly funny to accidentally punt you, since it was you noted the thread was full! Derp, sorry 😄

Downside of picking from the 'inactive' list is that it does move around as people are on and offline

[willow linden]

[rose elbow]

i'm being chatty, see??? i'm being plenty chatty. chatty chat chat chat i love the n64 core

[turbid warren]

idk about accuracy or clock speeds or anything about computers but i'll say the N64 core is my favorite way to play the N64 🙂

[magic girder]

Did Robby survive the purge?

[timber sun]

I SURVIVED

[solar slate]

yes, he spoke to the Jaguar god.

[neat sierra]

Rest in pieces losers

[green epoch]

On hell of a netsplit

[zinc dew]

lmao @raw oriole does not mess around

[timber sun]

ops plz

[raw oriole]

I was bored 😉

[dry oak]

I finally got removed

[lament escarp]

I survived once again! I'm the cockroach of this discord!

[latent dagger]

I always survive cuz I'm just cool like that

[rare relic]

Channels would be cool

[twin barn]

having channels for every single one of these cores would make the channel list way too long. there's a lot more under mister-cores than you see

when we originally decided on threads for these we didn't know about this limit

it only became known to us like a year later or so

[timber sun]

plus the purges are a fun yet harrowing way to see if you make the cut!

[latent dagger]

Even though discord of course gives you the ability now to just remove channels from your channel list in order to clean up the UI for yourself that probably wasn't available back when you decided on threads, or if it was you just didn't know about it or the other possibility of just taking into consideration that a lot of people don't realize they can do that for themselves in order to clean up their UI

Also threads have a limit for posts if I recall correctly, so at some point this channel itself is just going to be archived and a whole new one created because we'll reach the message limit.

[zinc dew]

DISSENTERS WILL BE DEALT WITH, SWIFTLY

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[latent dagger]

I see Robby drank coffee this morning

Here I am chilling with my green tea

[topaz otter]

I had high hopes for Jack Black and videodr0me

[latent dagger]

Long live the new flesh

[iron wren]

I would expect nothing less from our second favorite Rob

(Sorry not sorry, Robert takes first)

[zinc dew]

Of course, he’s the one with the talent and brains

[fierce girder]

Don’t forget looks

And personality

[topaz otter]

And money and fame

[languid dune]

I lived the latest purge!

[neon heron]

I always to check to see if Robby gets ejected.

[hushed nova]

hope springs eternal

[languid dune]

Karma for ejecting me last time!

[storm vessel]

What a long list of names
Jaime is a removal machine

[sullen harbor]

oh hey I survived the Purge

[native monolith]

I did not survive the purge. But I cannot be stopped, only mildly contained.

Seriously, though, I don't post much, just listen and keep up to date.

[green epoch]

some would argue that you are the best of us

[native monolith]

I try not to disappoint. 😉

[languid dune]

I very much try to disappoint. I'm quite good at it.

[lament escarp]

Did you know that all actors who played james bond are British? So weird!

[rose elbow]

all ?

[lament escarp]

Appearently

[rose elbow]

On Her Majesty’s Secret Service is aussie🍻

[thorn flax]

aussies aren’t brits?

[bright lotus]

brits aren't upside down aussies???

[lament escarp]

All part of the commonwealth.

[rose elbow]

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a 1969 spy film

hmm.. shit

[lament escarp]

We all learned something, so we all win.

[mortal panther]

...and Pierce Brosnan isn't even left-handed.

[lament escarp]

Maybe it's a flex. He shoots you with his left hand because that's enough.

[kind nimbus]

Lord Dundee is their only true God

^^ historic event where Lord Dundee showed Princess Diana who's boss

[lament escarp]

Movie from 86. Not subject of his majesty.

[topaz otter]

diana rigg 💌

shame about the goofy bloke she's pointing that gun at

[worn delta]

Connery - Scottish
Lazemby - Australian
Moore - English
Dalton - Welsh
Brosnon - Irish
Craig - English

[magic girder]

Connery = best Bond

[worn delta]

I rewatched Dr No for the umpteenth time the other night. It is still brilliant and Connery was the best.

[mortal panther]

"If it's not Scottish, it's crap!"

[lament escarp]

My intec modkit arrived and unlike the n64 modkit, it does the rumble!

[magic girder]

But you don’t even play N64. I thought you were a modern gamer?

[lament escarp]

Yes, I have it for remakes of n64 games.

[magic girder]

Ah, that makes sense

[thorn flax]

sir we play n64 games here

[latent dagger]

Did I ever show you my JB collectors edition?

[worn delta]

No

[worn delta]

Ah that is a nice looking set

I have a BD one from a few years back but the packaging is nothing to right home about

I really hope we get decent 4K releases at some point, watching Dr No it could really benefit

[latent dagger]

I don't think they ever released any kind of ultimate set like this one on BD with all the extras (and those two books) unfortunately.

I don't know if 4K would ever really help with stuff that old though. It's gonna have too many imperfections that show through unless you start digitally alerting the footage to "clean it up"

Then you're stuck in this weird LotR and Star Wars situation

[worn delta]

Actually quite the opposite, because films like that were shot on 35mm and had lush colours films from the 60s can benefit the most from 4K HDR transfers

One of the issues with the BD discs is they have clearly had a lot of DNR applied, it would be great to not and have the film grain back so people's faces look less waxy and the backgrounds less noisy

The transfer was really showing its age when viewed on a big TV

[latent dagger]

That's ultimately why I usually only get DVD copies of stuff lol. They didn't do any of that DNR nonsense with movies back then

I watch all my movies on this

[worn delta]

Oh no they definitely did, need to check on case by case basis. Thankfully a lot of more recent BD discs have moved away from slapping it on, but there are some awful AI noise reduction on some big studio 4K discs sadly.

Even LOTR suffers, there is a scene in ROTK where Gandalf's staff disappears because the AI scrubbed it out for a few frames. Really lazy.

[latent dagger]

I meant that back in the day DVDs usually weren't heavy DNR if any. Perhaps some stuff released before DVD was ever invented or even laser disc for that matter when being released on DVD had some DNR, but even stuff that has a little DNR has very little and it's also not even noticeable at the lower resolution of DVD and when viewing on a CRT

And I am very aware of the LotR nonsense lolol. Coupled with the terrible color grading that took place when it came to the extended editions and then further the 4K re-releases that were then based off of those terribly color graded extended editions on Blu-ray and had to be recolor graded on top of the color grading which still has some off looking stuff because of it lol

[worn delta]

Ah yeah, if you are watching on a CRT then different kettle of fish to a big flat panel

[mossy vector]

Education time. Probably the best way to think of the Nintendo 64's RDP is as a modular audio synthesizer, but for video.

Instead of mixing sound, there is RGB color channel and Alpha channel mixing capability. Instead of audio samples (patches), there are textures. Instead of note event fields (velocity, pitch, distortion), there are vertex attributes (brightness, direction, translucency).

Kaze Emanuar recently released a YT video describing the CC (color combiner). A small but powerful interpolator in the N64 rendering pipeline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJJC6FJKu58&ab_channel=KazeEmanuar

[bright lotus]

oh

the level is shifted around the player, it's not the camera

now I get it

[lament escarp]

What's the "correct" stiffness of a N64 stick? I have one I fixed up with kitsch-bent parts and one from the intec modkit and the kitsch-bent stick is way stiffer. How stiff were real sticks when they were new?

[zinc dew]

lol

[lament escarp]

I'm starting to prefer the limp stick tbh. Much less work to wiggle it around.

As soon as Robby made his dick joke I'd be happy to hear some genuine answers.

[mossy vector]

It's more important that they return to center. So if you let go at 1/2 of the way, they zeroed out.

[zinc dew]

I didn’t make any jokes. The original sticks were pretty stiff with a bit of a dead zone

[lament escarp]

They both return to zero, more or less.

The intec stick isn't 100% centered but still fine ingame.

[lament escarp]

I also lubed that stick if that helps.

[mossy vector]

There was no binding or grinding from edge to edge, and the pressure was fairly even. Never got the sense of how far it was moved by the return force.

[onyx minnow]

general rule of thumb is modern controllers are better than the originals, hate to say it.. unless it's arcades where they use microswitches

playing ocarina of time on a modern controller is still better than the original n64 controller experience, even with the dpad notes thing 🙂 my opinion roast me if you want lol

[mossy vector]

Performance brand sticks (that finish🏁 of shame) were very tight and made squeaking noises and bound up sometimes.

[jolly turret]

I just used an original PSOne controller which looks like it has seen zero use, it's in perfect new condition. It looks great but I can not use this thing, the dpad is just too stiff and my thumb was already starting to hurt after just a few minutes. Maybe it needs some time to get worked in, but so far I definitely seem to strongly prefer modern dpads, sticks and buttons.

[mossy vector]

The + was patented, so Sony had to crappify it on the PS1. Sega had their own prior art and lucked out. Hands around the world rejoiced when that damn patent expired early 2000s

[mortal panther]

Too much lube and you start to lose control of the stick.

[lament escarp]

I guess what's important is that the stick feels good in my hand.

[iron wren]

words to live by

[bright lotus]

I have 5 N64 controllers and all the sticks had immense drift away from comfortable deadzone but texture aside I could never ever precisely aim in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark

Zero regrets

[magic girder]

Please stop 😂

[lament escarp]

How do you prefer your stick? Stiff or sloppy? Should lube it up anyway.

[topaz otter]

Heres a real answer

OEM sticks out of the box were firm but not hard to push

When they start grinding down is when they get sticky

An OEM sticks should be very snappy

If you flick it it should snap back to center easily

It comes down to the big spring that's in there

New mod kits probably have a stiff spring

i think people get confused when they do one of these kits and it replaces the module with one that is a traditional xbox 360 style stick with an analog to digital converter

these will never wear down

[lament escarp]

Thank you for the answer. 🙏 I guess the intec stick is closer to original then.

[topaz otter]

it you can flick it without trouble its probably pretty close

[lament escarp]

Only issue I see is that it's slightly off at 0. Could try changing the spring but I'll contact intect first I guess. Maybe there is a calibration tool or something.

[mortal panther]

Maybe the stick has become damaged from letting other people get too rough with it?

[jovial briar]

how close in feel are we thinking the NSO sticks are? i dont remember them ever being as smooth as these ones even as a kid but as i understand it nintendo went with an identical design so i dont know

[solar slate]

When using the N64 core why is Gamma Correction not usable in Video Processing? When switching off the VI filter and using Clean HDMI, VI Gamma is off too. There a few games that need that specific VI filter. One of these Games is Starfox64. The game is playable but the picture is very dark. A filter in Video Processing could substitute the VI Gamma.

Also when using Clean HDMI, Error Overlay and FPS Overlay is not visible but can be switched on and off. Now I have no idea what the correct behavior is but if it is not supposed to be working in Clean HDMI, maybe it should be gray as long as Clean HDMI is activated?

[topaz otter]

whoah now this is over the line

[lament escarp]

This is my baseline. @zinc dew will confirm.

[weary palm]

What kind of controller are you using? You could try adding some deadzone with the functionality i added to mister main some time ago.

[lament escarp]

Intec modkit. It's like the 8bitdo modkit but actually works with the nso controller driver. I contacted their support and they sent me a tool to adjust the deadzone. I also tried exchanging the spring in the stick with a spring from an oem stick and it made it way worse. But in the old spring and it's pretty perfect now. I guess the spring needs to be in the correct "orientation".

[weary palm]

One of my DualShock 2s was acting like that, that's why I added the functionality.

[nova grotto]

I've just tried it but there's nothing different at least in my Mister , do I need to install something else aside from the rbf file ?

[remote hatch]

option in audio video section - composite blend on/off

[blissful wolf]

Struggling to find a cheap worn out host controller in europe and wondering if I should roll the dice on putting the intec into a shitty clone controller

[latent dagger]

The intec kit replaces the stick no? At that point repro clones work fine because you're just using the shell

[weary palm]

Do you get rumble with the intec mod kit

[jovial briar]

damn i book marked the intec kit on amazon and now it says unavailable

[latent dagger]

Are you in the US?

[jovial briar]

Yes

[latent dagger]

https://www.amazon.com/Mod-Kit-Original-Controller-Support，Rumble-64/dp/B0DHR879M9

[jovial briar]

Oh very nice that’s still affordable too

Thank you

Seems like intec is the way to go

I wish I could mod my nso controller to real pcb it feels great but I can’t tolerate the latency even over bt

[latent dagger]

Weird to me though that this product isn't listed on their website. Only Amazon

[jovial briar]

dunno but ive only heard good things

[solar slate]

because N64 Controller seems a hot topic at the moment, I think I can add a few things. When I got my MiSTer, the first things I realized was that I need a proper N64 Controller. A original NSO Controller was just too expensive. I have several original N64 Controller so a SNAC Adapter was a option. Problem is that shipping is always almost as expensive as the adapter itself. Shipping costs are a real problem. I ended up buying one of these 15 euro USB N64 Controller and was expecting nothing good.

I used the controller quite a lot so far. The plastic looks and feels like a real N64 Controller. They used the same molds as the original but modified

the stick is really not bad

a bit too soft but close

15 Euro for it is absolutely fine

I had much worse original N64 Controller.

The Dpad is a bit of a problem. If you press Up or Down too hard, it also presses left or right

the other buttons are fine

[bright lotus]

that stick has better tech than any of the originals

[zinc dew]

If you think it’s decent then by all means share a purchase link for it!

[worn delta]

Does that USB pad take ruble and transfer paks?

[solar slate]

no, thats funny, because all the plastic is still there. you can insert any pak but there is no connector. I can imagine that one of these conversion boards could work if you dremel the plastic to make room for the port.

[solar slate]

https://amzn.to/3Ri7Q8l

it is 20 euro now, I guess they had a special price for a while at around 17 euro but still it is very good usable for most games. If the game has options to adjust the Control Stick, just lower the Sensibility a bit and it feels like a normal N64 Controller. It is snappy too, It even sounds similar.

Mario Kart 64, Smash Bros and Mario 64 play absolutely fine. Kids had fun. I will get a few more of them since my son asked for N64 multiplayer. For that price I do not need to worry if they ruin it 😄

At one point I will also get a N64 SNAC adapter for FPGA TV to use my ASCII Controller.

[blissful wolf]

tariffs

amazon sellers are halting a lot of their listings

[scenic vapor]

DVDs didn't have the resolution to show film grain properly. Thus some kind of DNR was baked into the format and didn't have to be added manually.

[safe lotus]

Pulling my hair out, have a n64 nso controller. If I don't map anything in main, analog stick works perfect in the n64 core. Seems like whatever combo I do for setup in main, I loose my analog up and down in n64 core.

[bright lotus]

first it maps the left stick, then the right one, and then the left stick's movements in the main

I don't have that controller on hand but I wonder if it mixes left and right sticks together for some reason

[safe lotus]

I'm using the nso nintendo controller, there is only 1 stick. Tried bypasssing and going to the second. Oddest thing is that only left and right works when I map to the main. If I don't map anything in main -- the controller works perfectly in the n64 core.

Same thing happen with a generic USB n64 joystick.

[zinc dew]

When it asks you for up/down/left/right that’s for the dpad. You never map the analog stick in any cores that use analog.

[weary palm]

What the hell was the point of Noise dither, SGI?

[safe lotus]

@zinc dew I've also skipped The tilt and same thing. Very annoying.

[magic girder]

If in doubt try removing the input configs and try again - see if that helps

[mossy vector]

I forgot. It often is half turned on by games accidentally and injecting 1 LSB, but something else needs to be on for it to do what it was supposed to.

[latent dagger]

[mossy vector]

I think it's related to the gamma correction, which almost all games don't use.

[weary palm]

Have you ever thought to yourself "this picture would look better with some artificial noise on top"? Now you can! With Nofriendo video interference simulator your dreams can come true, without having to purchase that $2 cable!

[mossy vector]

It's to change the displayed image 60 times a second. Thus all N64 games run at 60 FPS!

[zinc dew]

Nintendo 64 is perfect you heathens!

[marble cargo]

No it isn't. It doesn't have OutRun. Literally unsalvagable hardware.

[green epoch]

No Metroid game. Condolences

[mossy vector]

If I can be forgiven for guessing, my theory for gamma dither (the core incorrectly names it VI_noisedither) is SGI was afraid of "blacker than black" on NTSC. Large blocks of RGB 0,0,0 can look like a false hsync pulse. Highly technical and not something anyone probably wants to hear further. NES developers were also guilty of picking out of spec 🖤 colors that affect sync.

[stone pilot]

Would you rather the console not have OutRun, or "have OutRun" in the way the PlayStation 2 "has OutRun"

[marble cargo]

It has OutRun 2006 Coast 2 Coast, which makes up for that cheap OutRun remake.

[stone pilot]

that's true! Perhaps the only thing better than having OutRun is having OutRun 2

[zinc dew]

N64 has outrun

[thorn flax]

no light gun games

and fighters so terribad they make Battle Arena Toshinden look like Soulcalibur

[zinc dew]

N64 has lightgun games and Soulcalibur

[thorn flax]

and it’s wild how out of step the n64 was with japanese tastes

[green epoch]

No Metroid. It is unarguable fact that any Nintendo system without a Metroid game sucks

[zinc dew]

N64 has Metroid

[thorn flax]

i’ve got a friend from Kansai who loves n64 but they’re an outlier

[green epoch]

Saying it doesn’t make it true Robby, this isn’t your dream

[zinc dew]

Oh

[green epoch]

SNAP OUT OF IT

[zinc dew]

🫠

[latent dagger]

I think Robby is confusing outrun with cruisn

Or is confusing N64 with C64

[thorn flax]

it didn’t even have Fire Pro!

[chilly ember]

Super smash bros has metroid

[thorn flax]

i’m told the wrestlers on n64 were peak. how it didn’t get Japan’s premiere series is beyond me

[zinc dew]

N64 probably best console of all time

Probably

[mossy vector]

What?

[topaz otter]

i need to see an example of the NES one

never heard that before

[topaz otter]

all racing games on the N64 are the same

hold down the A button to make the giant yellow, blue, green, or red square go in a straight line to the finish line

[chilly ember]

Always forward never back

[topaz otter]

for multiplayer, just do that except divide the tv into four smaller squares and do it simultaneously

if the square is brown, you're probably playing mario kart 64 and playing as donkey kong(why would you do that)

[mossy vector]

https://www.nesdev.org/wiki/Color_$0D_games

[green epoch]

https://tenor.com/dGPlOjWxrKO.gif

[stone pilot]

OutRun is on Nintendo ||Switch, and also on Commodore|| 64

[wanton sun]

Yes, the name is wrong. I picked the name because it is also on when gamma is off with the 1 bit LSB noise.
The real reason of it was revealed in the interview of the RDP chief designer: the dither + dedither can leave some weird artifacts on CRTs that is removed with it. At least that is what he claimed.

[weary palm]

I don't see how that would work. But I guess it did!

[solar slate]

yes but Starfox does and so I want to repeat my question from a few days:

When using the N64 core why is Gamma Correction not usable in Video Processing? When switching off the VI filter and using Clean HDMI, VI Gamma is off too. There a few games that need that specific VI filter. One of these Games is Starfox64. The game is playable but the picture is very dark. A filter in Video Processing could substitute the VI Gamma.

[wanton sun]

clean HDMI does remove the whole VI but instead uses the n64 framebuffer in rdram directly by the HDMI scaler

[solar slate]

yes as it should

[wanton sun]

this is mainly useful for displaying 480i games as 480p

Those games typically don't use VI features anyway to reduce RDRAM bandwidth required

[solar slate]

yes but why is that gamma correction in video processing not available?

[wanton sun]

because the framework module is not integrated into the core

[solar slate]

The reason I ask is because I was experimenting with the VI filter and clean HDMI

With the Video processing filters I found a good combination to substitute for the vi filter. Back in the day, I think it was around 1998 I have installed the first ever RPG mod to my n64. That was that Doubleyou RGB mod. My substitute with the Video processing filters looks similar to the RGB mod from back then and better.

There are 2 games I know off where they have switched on the Gamma Correction VI filter by accident. The whole game presentation is ruined. Starfox is the opposite. It needs the gamma boost.

I will do a stream about the matter and demonstrate it but for the most games it is possible to use clean HDMI and use the Video processing filters and it looks much better without taking the correct feel away.

In the office back then we were forced to test N64 only on CRT with composite cable and this 8h plus per day

so I became a little obsessed with improving the N64 picture

[wanton sun]

that's all fine, but the issue is that the gamma module consumes ressources and more ressources makes the core less routable and therefore even harder to get a decent build.
Currently it takes me about 4 hours of parallel builds to create a new release and I would like to not make it worse.

[hushed nova]

but on top of that the gamma module doesn't work if you feed the scaler direct framebuffer anyways, right?

[wanton sun]

yes, clean HDMI would still not use it

[solar slate]

I see. Anyway, I understand that the N64 core is tight anyway and little changes for one or two games make no real sense

I guess that also explains why the FPS and overlay is not working in clean HDMI

maybe gray them out when in HDMI mode?

but again not for 4 hours compiling 🙂

[wanton sun]

yes, can integrate that with the next release, just have to remember 😅

[solar slate]

it is not super important but a consumer can get a little confused.

in any case, I am super happy about that core and that it even was possible at all. I spend so much time on N64 but installing a super expensive HDMI mod to a console was just nothing I wanted to spend any money on since this is almost half a MiSTerPi moneywise

Oh before I forget, the main reason to look into clean HDMI and the filter options are streaming reasons. I watched many play videos on YT. Mostly they play on (older) N64 emulators. That will look wrong out of the box. If they use more correct emulation it is blurry like the original. Some people record from real HW over composite and there it is blurry as we know it. Now I would like to know what people would like to see in streams or videos. Original blurry, Clean HDMI, Clean HDMI with filters or even with CRT Shadow mask?

The N64 was made with a CRT and cheap Composite Video in mind to make it even more blurry and hide pixels.

That is a huge nightmare on any flat screen

In theory a N64 video or stream would need to be recorded with filters and Shadow mask to be correct. But many people do not like scanline or shadow mask stuff in videos. So what do people prefer when it comes to N64 content?

[wanton sun]

I don't even like shadow masks or scanlines outside of videos. It reminds me of my CRT where i couldn't even read the text of Command&Conquer(n64 version) 25 years ago. Since then I got rid of every CRT TV or Monitor as fast as possible.

[solar slate]

heheheh

oh C&C64 We worked on that too

but yes I fully understand your problem. With Mister, clean HDMI and filters applied that is history

[wanton sun]

I really like the "blurry" VI handling when viewing it on a sharp LCD/OLED. It's a good mix. With a blurry CRT, it's too much for me

[solar slate]

when it comes to VI, I think the only vile filter in there is the De Dither Filter

that one filter is so strong, it ruins all

[hushed nova]

things like scanlines look horrible in recordings/streams

[solar slate]

I found that if you use DeDither, it is better to switch off AA so that the edges are better visible. If DeDither is off, AA can be used

[solar slate]

that is why I asked what ppl like.

[hushed nova]

I'd experiment with a light interpolation filter and see how it looks recorded. not so strong that things are really blurry but just enough that you don't have razor sharp pixels

but some people do prefer the sharp pixel thing so no matter what you do someone will complain

[solar slate]

yeah

I think I found a nice combo of settings. I will show it later in a stream with selected games that look real horrible with all the stock filtering. One very very prominent example is F-1 World Grand Prix (I-II)

[weary palm]

You're a very sensible man. 😁

[bright lotus]

I don't mind the default blurred look but if I could have perfect upscale with no performance issues, I would do that

RGB is a good step up from S-Video nonetheless and makes Doom 64 playable

-# too bad Nintendo were dumb enough to NOT provide RGB

[little socket]

come one, there was that 50 or so french console run

[weary palm]

I have a French console. Are they rare??

I should revisit the modwork I did on that. I did it the lazy way. I should order parts and do it properly with transistors and stuff.

[topaz otter]

interesting, the game genie does blink sometimes, I wonder if this is the cause

[solar slate]

not having RGB and go with Composite was on purpose. Composite acts as another filter.

[bright lotus]

iirc they do not output RGB over SCART, it's still composite over SCART

[solar slate]

When Gamcube was around the corner we had a internal survey on what kind of Video Out the Cube should have. There we had RGB and that is what we got.

[weary palm]

No they dont. There are sliksceening for the components responsible for rgb, but it's not populated.

[jolly turret]

I can definitely see how they used the composite output as an additional filter to smooth out sprites and textures. It actually works quite well.

[weary palm]

Guess it outputs SECAM? Dunno

[solar slate]

french yes

[weary palm]

France is weird like that

I actually set the vcr to secam multiple times when i was a youngling.

Accidentally

Made the tapes black and white when friends wanted to borrow

Whoops, i showed my age.

[bright lotus]

I wonder if anyone would be interested in making some sort of pico device for N64 mem pak

Right now it's probably the only console that doesn't have a handy MemCard alternative

[desert crow]

https://github.com/Element18592/N64-FRAM-Memory-Pak there is stuff like this

[bright lotus]

Would love to have that with SD card

[solar slate]

Interesting fact: While playing with the VI filters I found out that almost all Midway games do not use the Dither VI filter at all. I wonder why.

[bright lotus]

They didn't like it

[solar slate]

Chameleon Twist is another game that makes use of the Gamma VI filter and is too dark in clean HDMI

[solar slate]

it really does not look nice in several games. I also found a lot of games that look and work very nice without any dither. Sometimes it looks like that the VI filters are just active because it was on by default in the dev environment and nobody checked the game without it.

Dual Heroes for example must have Gamma VI on by accident.

[solar slate]

Twisted Edge - Extreme Snowboarding is another game that seems to use the Gamma VI filter by default.

Could somebody check this game out? The demo mode showed me some weird gfx on the background

that looks not normal

[weary palm]

If you're using vga your could build a gamma adjuster and add to the video chain. Like one of those SLG3000's or what they're called. j/k

[lament escarp]

I like f-zero x. It's like a demake of f-zero gx.

[tight notch]

Do I need a specific driver for an N64 controller? I'm using an N64 to USB adapter (unlabeled Chinese brand). The D-pad and center stick work in menus, but the other buttons don't respond—even when I try mapping them as A and B. The C buttons also can't be set. Any ideas?

[zinc dew]

The question above is being answered in #controllers

[brave beacon]

Hello everyone,

I need some help with the N64 core. No matter what I do, I can't save any games. I've tried every save type option in the menus, but none of them work. I've tested this with Super Mario 64 and Super Smash Bros (specifically VS. data), but saving doesn’t work in either game.

I’ve already searched the MiSTer Forum and this channel but couldn’t find any solutions.

Thanks in advance!

PS: I’ve had the database downloaded since the core was in beta, but saving has never worked for me—I’ve never been able to save N64 games.

[iron wren]

What steps have you taken to save your game? Have you enabled autosave in the osd, then saved the core settings, and then saved in the game and subsequently opened the osd to allow it to write to the sd card?

[brave beacon]

Hey AndrewPH,

Yes, I’ve tried everything, auto-saving in the OSD, manual saving, manual reloading (though I’m not sure if I did it in the exact right order). Same issue, still no luck.

Is saving N64 games really this much of a pain?

🤣

[jolly turret]

All that you usually need to do are these steps:

-Enable auto save in the OSD
-Save the core settings
-Once you then play a game and want the core to save, all you need to do is to open the OSD menu and it will say auto saving.

[iron wren]

Mario 64 is a good test. With autosave enabled in the osd, and all other settings at default, once I save in the game I open the osd and it writes the save to my sd card. No further actions are required on my part- the next time I launch Mario 64 on the n64 core, it loads my save.

[brave beacon]

And that is the exact same game I'm having problems

[brave beacon]

Mine do not give any saving message..

when I open the OSD

[iron wren]

Do you have autosave on in the menu?

[brave beacon]

Yes

I wil try againg later, spend about two hours trying every single combination. last resort Im going to delete the N64 folder and run update_all again

[jolly turret]

Can you share a screenshot or photo from your core menu showing auto saving is on?

Alternatively try setting up the Mister on a different sd card, to rule out that your card isn't somehow damaged.

I'd definitely make sure you are fully updated to the newest Mister version and cores.

[iron wren]

Running update_all if you haven’t done so recently could correct whatever’s misbehaving

[chilly ember]

What's the thing called that chooses the right save type? That'd be my guess is it isn't choosing the right save type or isn't choosing what at all

[brave beacon]

Sure!Thank you for the help. Later I will get back to play some mister and try againg and take all the necessary screenshots.

[cunning fern]

Do you have issues with saving in other cores?

[brave beacon]

But is not the database job to select it?

[brave beacon]

not at all

[iron wren]

Fingers crossed it’s something silly being overlooked in the potential list of causes and you’re able to get playing 🙂

[chilly ember]

Database should choose the right save type

[brave beacon]

That is probably the cause ahahah

[jolly turret]

It's probably something very simple that is causing the issue. There's definitely no harm in trying a fresh install. At least you don't have to worry about backing up any of your savegames. 🙃

[brave beacon]

Ok guys, thanks! I get back later with some feedback

[zinc dew]

@brave beacon check //media/fat/saves to see if there’s an N64 folder

[lunar ginkgo]

I haven't tried the n64 core for a while. Now none of my roms work. Did something change?

[green epoch]

Nah, there hasn't been a new n64 build since november. Maybe your bios got goofed?

or the game list?

[lunar ginkgo]

I'm in the middlw of looking for the game list

[green epoch]

it's called N64-database.txt

[lunar ginkgo]

I've certainly been getting the database error

[green epoch]

yeah, that will stop stuff from loading for sure

[lunar ginkgo]

I'm going to try winrar to see if I can get a look at the md5s

[green epoch]

this is the md5 of the database file (not sure if it's helpful) 5f912d7695cf4adeeadf6ca4add44ed2

[lunar ginkgo]

I get the feeling mister is trying to read the md5 from the zipped file instead of the rom

[mortal panther]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database

[zinc dew]

Does the game work if it’s not zipped?

[lunar ginkgo]

that's what I'm about to find out

still says missing from database, checking md5s...

confirmed my roms do not match the md5s in the database

[green epoch]

weird

[lunar ginkgo]

what's weird is that I must not have tried loading any other games after playing OOT. I remember having to manually find 1.0 for the blood. I went through and beat it but I remember not liking the right stick for the C buttons. I guess I was so off put by the experience that I didn't try anything else

[wet plover]

Hi, I hope you don't mind a quick Q - how did you get Castlevania to save. Did you use a physical savepack?

I am using original n64 controller with SNAC. I may have to get a save pack but if possible would like use the original controller and keep the save on my SD card.

I have the config file from update_all, the settings recognized but the "controller pack" not found message comes up no matter what settings I use.

I have tried looking but haven't really found an answer.

[iron dove]

For N64, if using SNAC for player 1 then you need to use a physical controller pak. Unless the game supports saving to player 2's pak

[restive bloom]

I don't have anything SNAC

C64 only supports CPak saving.

I assume if you tell it to use SNAC, then it's expecting a real controller w/ real Controller Pak, and so you'll get it not found. C64 doesn't have support for other players' paks iirc.

[wet plover]

this makes much sense and what I suspected but thought to ask/confirm.

Thanks guys!

[restive bloom]

Like I said though, not a SNAC user so I could be totally off-base, but I assume that's probably what's happening. 🙃

[wet plover]

It make sense, I tested other games with the SNAC connected controller but it still saved without a physical pack. So I held out hope that there was a setting I was goofing up.

I read that the N64 had no native memory card management system and each game had to have it's own manager.

No big deal, but good to have the confirmation.

[restive bloom]

Indeed. AFAIK, CPak-enabled games has you hold start on boot to access built-in controller pak note management, if any.

At the very least, I remember that much was the case for Bomberman 64.

[zinc dew]

It’s wild that each game had to make its own controller pak menu lol

[restive bloom]

Probably where the N64 having an actual BIOS would've made sense! Instead of making each and every dev reimplement probably the same couple of pak-related blobs with different graphics just to stuff it in the cart and waste precious ROM space.

[latent dagger]

@wet plover I tried reading the other messages here and it didn't look like anybody actually answered your question. When you were using an official controller in snack mode, all you have to do when you are ready to save the game is bring up a different controller like a PlayStation or Xbox controller, or keyboard, go into the OSD menu change player one controller from snack to controller pack, save your game using this alternate controller input method, then switch back to snack mode. You also need to do this whenever you're going to load a game you boot it up. Please don't mind the misspellings above because I am using voice to text

[zinc dew]

SNACK MODE

[latent dagger]

I am eating Costco pizza in the parking lot right now lol

[wet plover]

trickery!

[restive bloom]

So basically: disable SNAC so it uses emulated save, save with emulated controller, commit save, then go back to SNAC.

Well, like I said:

not a SNAC user so I could be totally off-base,

Thanks for clarifying. 💖

[wet plover]

I just tested it and works as described. exactly what is needed and I get to enjoy the N64 controller.

[zinc dew]

N64 core is best core. Too bad no homebrew works.

[lament escarp]

Since N64 emulation is a mess in 2025, right?

[zinc dew]

Correct

[plush summit]

Mistakes were made

RAM BUS not bussin'

[mortal panther]

It's because they decided to use public Rambus instead of private charter Rambus.

Everyone knows that public Rambus is filthy... that's why the graphics look like that.

[plush summit]

RAM Shinkansen is inevitable

[iron wren]

Imagine riding the town rambus :/

[magic girder]

Joint best with PS1

[neat hearth]

what sort of madman thinks of a 9 bit bus

[swift drift]

Converting GBC games to N64 ROMs works. Pointless, but works.

Can we please get the N64 "Turbo" code merged into the main build, and give it a toggle in the options? Waiting for new Turbo core versions every few months sucks.

[quick arch]

The space available on the FPGA is not enough for merge them

[swift drift]

Damn, that sucks.

But also, understandable.

[latent dagger]

Even if it could be merged it wouldn't be.
First and foremost "accuracy and stability" are the intents of cores in FPGA.
The turbo is not accurate nor stable, therefore it's not ever going to be considered "official" and will always have to be kept separate.

This goes for PSX 2X core as well.
And any of the other builds like PWM and c blend.
All unofficial.

[hushed nova]

the real reason is Robert doesn't want to spend 8 hours instead of 4 trying to get build that meetings timing

[magic girder]

As far as I know, there haven’t been new versions of either core for months. They’re both up to date

[latent dagger]

Yeah, no new releases are being worked on as far as I know. Not under active development.
Only recent thing was the c-blend core but that's unofficial.

[primal coral]

Where can I find that core?

[latent dagger]

First result is the latest PSX build he shared and third result should have n64

That's a J btw. Just search kuba

[primal coral]

Oh here:

#1046940919607345272 message

thanks Pengwen 😇

[zinc dew]

Sorry, was a joke about how MVG claimed some homebrew didn't work on the N64 core but it did and for well over a year.

[thorn flax]

middling video guy

[worn delta]

Are there homebrews that don't work that should or was that all nonsense? I remember that came up not long ago and Robert mused that maybe libdragon had been updated since he implemented it or something to that effect

[thorn flax]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo&pp=ygURaXQgbmV2ZXIgaGFwcGVuZWQ%3D

[iron wren]

Last time I tried it, classicube didn’t work on the mister core but does work on hardware and in ares iirc.

The n64 port is not exactly a shining beacon of compatibility though

[bright lotus]

https://youtu.be/l-AWM9h34gM

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1904322521/n64-project-renaissance-tao-v4-stick?etsrc=sdt

I am fond of my 8bitdo replacement but this one is also pretty cool

[lament escarp]

The intec replacement which comes with the modkit also seems fine enough. Afaik you can buy a version that fits oem boards as well.

Greased it anyway, just in case.

[lean sable]

Macho nacho has the best intro music

[lament escarp]

Aye, 164.64$ price point for that stick. I'm happy with the 8bitdo and intec sticks I've got.

[broken creek]

If an original stick module isn't too far gone replacing the worn bowl with just the renaissance bowl is enough of a future proof upgrade for most people.

[lament escarp]

Bunch of options, depends on how much money you wanna spend.

[topaz otter]

on OEM controllers just lube the bowl occassionally with nickel grease

I've been doing that since 1998

[broken creek]

I do that for my guest controllers. Not worth steel bowling them.

[zealous hull]

Speaking of, I assume the N64 modkit is still unable to use rumble in D-Input mode?

[swift drift]

We need a stick solution for the NSO N64 controller. Those are going to wear out just like the real ones and we'll have this crisis all over again.

[neat hearth]

it will be a sticky situation

[lament escarp]

No update on the 8bitdo modkit. But there is a new modkit from intec that doesn't have the same issue.

[zealous hull]

Thanks for the info!

[zealous hull]

Just wait 30 years to spend $200 on metal sticks again. 🙂

History repeats itself.

[lament escarp]

One big bonus of the 8bitdo kit is that it's compatible with oem sticks, so technically you can cram any steel stick in there you want. If only the firmware wasn't so ass.

[zealous hull]

That's the direction I've gone--we'll see if I keep it that way.

[zinc dew]

So that new N64 stick is really cool but the changes to the joystick feel and high price means it’s absolutely not for me. I want original controller feel.

Seems like it’s made for the hardcore speed run community,

Where the high precision is important and the high price isn’t detrimental.

[latent dagger]

idk how I feel about original feel myself

it has this sort of scraping feeling to it as I move the stick around even though I lubed it up quite a bit with silicon grease

I don't like it cuz it constantly makes me feel like I'm ruining it every time I use it and it's going to quickly go to shit even though it's not

I might look into a bowl and maybe even stick replacement at some point here to get something that won't wear down as easily

[solar slate]

what new controller?

[thorn flax]

$164.64 please for your metal stick and bowl (no, the gears are not included. you. fucking. peasant.)

goddamn, should have gotten into n64 mods full time, those sickos will pay anything

[topaz otter]

this is the part that got me

you have to provide your own gears

[amber fjord]

When kitsch-bent reopens, for affordable “oem grade” replacements they are great. And it was cheap.

[restive bloom]

Wait are Kitsch-bent closed rn?

oh nooooo

oh okay, just a week. phew

[blissful wolf]

is there a way when the core is running to check if its the turbo core or regular? trying to debug an NFC zaparoo setup

not sure if the 80hz core is launchng

[zinc dew]

Check the MGL file that the Zaparoo card is launching and that will tell you which core it is.

[brave beacon]

Hello, thank you!! I need yet to try all the tips you guys gave me here. Life happen, could not get to my mister yet 😔

[zinc dew]

No problem! We’re always here when you need us, amigo.

[iron dove]

if you want to check on MiSTer itself, open OSD, press right and choose 'about'
the non-turbo core has a build date of 20241109

[eternal juniper]

Recently got a MiSTer, don't know any of the tricks yet...is there a way to get No Mercy running full speed? Mine runs maybe 1/3rd speed with 4 players. I just have whatever the update_all script gives you

[green epoch]

You could try the turbo core: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_MiSTer/tree/main/releases_turbo

but another thing to consider is that it ran that bad back then, and you just don't remember. The core should be pretty accurate

[eternal juniper]

even truer because I never had the game and just heard it was good looking around for stuff to play a minute ago

def will try turbo though thanks

[green epoch]

the n64 is the console that has suffered the most from modern tvs, unfortunately

[eternal juniper]

I do have CRTs at least, which for sure helps. Still looking for a 36" curved

[green epoch]

I am not at the point where I would kill for a 36" JVC D-Series yet, but I can see it from here

[lament escarp]

So you're telling me, if I find such a TV you owe me a hit?

[eternal juniper]

I was lucky to find a 32" JVC wiht a D series tube....on the ad it looked scratched beyond belief but it was some kind of paint or something that wiped right off

now to get this turbo core working, it just goes to black screen for some reason

and menu won't open

[weary palm]

Remember back in the day when You were playing the N64? You liked Super Mario 64 and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Remember

[lament escarp]

I never played n64 since my family was to poor to buy one. Super mario 64 and ocarina of time were distand fever dreams of which I could only read about in magazines.

[weary palm]

Remember when the thermal fuse in the AC adapter triggered and you thought you had to buy a completely new N64? But 5 minutes later the adapter worked again. Those were the times.

[weary palm]

Did you have an older console then, back in 97?

[lament escarp]

Only thing I had was a gameboy pocket with pokemon blue (hence my unhealthy obsession with gen1). Later I bought a used psx from a friend when he got a ps2.

[weary palm]

Not too shabby, my friend

Gen1 is the best gen

[lament escarp]

Mister is an important part of my self realization and self esteem.

[lament escarp]

Thank you once again for making the save data thing for pokemon stadium 🙏

[weary palm]

I did it for you. 😉

[lament escarp]

I feel special. Thank you.

[weary palm]

We're all special

[neat hearth]

yeah yeah everyone's special, big whoop

everyone except me, I'm the same

[lament escarp]

Thank you for respecting this wholesome moment. 🙏

[neat hearth]

I'm nothing if not respectful

[mortal panther]

When everyone's special, no one is.

[neat hearth]

that was my point, indeed

[lament escarp]

So only Jensen is special for not being special.

[little socket]

no, just less special

[neat hearth]

I have zero tattoos

doggy and a Volvo

[bright lotus]

I only had a bootleg disc with UltraHLE and both games looked like a living nightmare

in 1999

I didn't even know that Nintendo 64 was a console

[prime sphinx]

First some reason, i am having issues mapping the analog stick for up and down, on my NSO N64 controller using the 8bitdo adapter. Has anyone else had the same issue and is there a fix for it. I notice that you can't map the analog joystick for the N64 core?

My N64 controller just goes left and right for the analog stick ( Tested on two different NSO controllers)

[latent dagger]

make sure to map the controller in MiSter Main first
I believe the core just uses what is mapped in main for analog

[mint shadow]

In the N64 core, you do not map the analog stick at all, when it asks for left,right,up,down, it's asking for the DPad.

[prime sphinx]

When I map the dpad, it takes it and works but the analog sticks up and down does not work, only left and right

[lament escarp]

Did you map it completely in main or did you quit the mapping when the mouse stuff comes up? There comes some more stick stuff later, so just skip the mouse inputs and follow the mapping screen till it boots you out.

[dusty tusk]

The analog stick for N64 is one of the last things you map

[prime sphinx]

I was able to fix it, by remapping the joystick on the mister home menu

[snow quarry]

I have the everdrive romset but not every game seems to work is there a setting or update I’m needing. I might just pass my games over to a fresh build to try too.

[iron dove]

No-into or htgdb are recommended. Do you have the N64-database.txt in /games/N64/ ?

[snow quarry]

I do have the file and the packs are from htgdb but I unzipped directly to my sd so maybe I’ll try unzipping and transferring

[iron dove]

Zipped works (one or more games in a zip), but not other formats like 7zip

Ie you can copy the whole htgdb set as one .zip and browse into it as a folder on the mister

If you're still having issues, might be worth resetting settings in the OSD or deleting /config/N64.cfg

[worn delta]

As a general rule unless you are really tight for space then unzip your ROMs. You aren't saving much by today's card sizes, and zipped ROMs can cause issues.

Update all should grab everything else you need for the N64 core, be sure to have BIOS DB enabled.

[lunar ginkgo]

I think I figured out the problem I was having. My connected hard drive has a folder explicitly named N64. That causes the core to map over the n64 folder on the SD card. When I was loading from my external HDD it couldn't read the BIOS on the sd card.

[iron dove]

Personally I like the single zip per set of HTGDB for speed of transfer (one large file vs heaps of small ones), they come that way so no extracting needed
Haven't had any issues I can attribute to zips

Each to their own

[worn delta]

If your files are zipped you will get slower loading on cores (like N64) that have fast loading

[zinc dew]

Hey, I tried mapping my controller in the core but now my analog stick doesn’t work. Anyone know why?

[desert crow]

Hey, no we don't know how you messed up.

there a Swap Analog<->DPAD in osd, did you toggle that accidently?

or try remapping outside of the core, and making sure to finish it

[zinc dew]

damn, I can’t respond with my slop joke on you, you’re too nice

Nah my n64 controller is working perfectly, I was just trying to goad someone into reply so I would go “stop posting helpslop”

[vapid hawk]

are we just throwing slop on wherever now? i'm into it just want to check

[desert crow]

Dang it Robby, you fooled me. Please don't help troll

[neat hearth]

you're out of control man

[zinc dew]

Yeah sorry, that was bad judgement on my part. Thank you though for trying to help, you’re very kind!

[knotty zealot]

stop posting spamslop. work hardslop on borderslop. full stopslop.

[desert crow]

No sorry I was wrong, Do what you want to, and definitely don't listen to me.

[neat hearth]

wait um

[weak hill]

how can i download that gif? i must have it!

[latent dagger]

I'm assuming you wanted in a GIF format instead of MP4?

If that's what you want to do then you need to go to tenor.com search for N64 and it might pop up as one of the first few results. You can make sure to select the HD GIF option and then you can save it to your device

[bright lotus]

https://youtu.be/yOnmxC-QPvs?si=CLU4k92ZSWNg7xiX

Noice

[thorn flax]

$164.64

very noice

if noice means expensive as all heck

[chilly ember]

I'd be interested if it was maybe like 50 bucks max

[bright lotus]

but think of the ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒˢᵉᵈ longevity!

or just get the metal bowl

[thorn flax]

what really grinds my gears is the memory-holing of the 8bitdo hall effect stick.

how does it compare? can we get a 6months later review?

[bright lotus]

It's good but a touch too oversensitive

[thorn flax]

or what about just adding some grease to the original stick bowl before it grinds itself away?

[bright lotus]

come back to me in 8 months

[thorn flax]

so it could be “fixed” with a different revision?

[bright lotus]

didn't help my poor sticks in experience

[thorn flax]

ah

I will not deny I’m a pretty casual n 64 enjoyer

[bright lotus]

if you could tune the 8bitdo stick down a notch it would be near perfect

[thorn flax]

you ain’t getting me to play Mario party with anything other than a modern dualshock

[bright lotus]

or at least match the gates in the mimi

[lament escarp]

Try the intec replacement stick, that one is way closer to the original.

[dusty tusk]

Is it like the forever pencil?