3DO Console

[lusty crypt]

At the Rochester Museum of Play. 3DO getting the recognition it deserves. 🙂

[jaunty yacht]

Looks like @white narwhal’s house

[white narwhal]

Haha you aren’t wrong

I’ve got 14 M2s now 🤣

[jaunty yacht]

That’s 13 other players you’re preventing from enjoying themselves. Hoarder!!!

😘

[white narwhal]

Hahaha duplicates and research boards

[jade quartz]

Plot twist, Awbacon lives at the Rochester Museum of Play!

[jaunty yacht]

I thought that’s just what they called his momma

[jade quartz]

Dis just got real.

[jaunty yacht]

He knows I’m only kidding ❤️

[jade sleet]

Shame to see those units on display and not playing any titles

[white narwhal]

Your momma shops at Rochester Big and Tall

In the moomoo section

[white narwhal]

The museum of VGE is always accepting visitors. Just bring beer

[crystal cypress]

3DO is just a toy!

[jade quartz]

Don't toy with my emotions!

[crystal cypress]

Truth hurts …

[jaunty yacht]

Ur mommas a moo moo

[crystal cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/sick-burn-omg-owned-ooooo-gif-5565292

[lusty crypt]

It's Monday. You know what that means...

Time to play 3DO.

[lusty crypt]

Apparently not.

[jade quartz]

Everyday is 3DO day!

[lusty crypt]

Except Mondays.

[jade quartz]

That's because Mondays don't exist.

[jaunty yacht]

Tell me why I don’t like Mondays

[dapper oar]

If they don't exist, then why does Garfield still hates them? Is he stupid?*

*||This is a meme btw.||

[jade quartz]

I was actually thinking of Garfield when I made that post!

[raw dove]

I was gonna start making a 3do core.......

but like....

i have 0 idea how to even start making a core.. unless you count "buying a development FPGA chip" as step 1

..cuz in that case.. got it!...

Think ChatGPT can get this for us?... like load a ps1 core into it.. and go "now make this work for 3do"

imma give it a try. brb

[empty epoch]

Off to YouTube to make a “core developer supaslicer is making a 3do core” video 👍

[raw dove]

lol

[lusty crypt]

smashes 3do and DE10 together
Why no work?

[raw dove]

i put my de10 nano next to me like a son... and i was liek "this is called a 3do.. watch closely and learn all you can"

i turn it back on.. still.. no 3do

worked for the n64 somehow.. that was all me. no one helped or lifted a finger.. it was me sitting the DE10 next to me as i played n64 games

[wild skiff]

@raw dove - Have you tried pouring each device a glass of Bordeaux, lighting a candle, and dimming the lights while they listen to Charles Aznavour on vinyl?

[jade quartz]

You got this! Our savior!

[wild skiff]

Actually- to be period correct, zima and crystal pepsi

[raw dove]

ZIMA!!! that is where i messed up.... ill see if i can ebay some rn..

[white narwhal]

I’m gonna make a 3DO M2 core. Like god intended

[bold burrow]

3DO died for our sins

[bold burrow]

@kind hatch oh damn I thought that was funny lol

[kind hatch]

I got scared of offending someone 😃

[bold burrow]

That’s very kind of you. For what’s it’s worth I’m a Catholic and found it funny myself lol.

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/ned-flanders-fainting-the-simpsons-not-baptised-passing-out-gif-17030366885612532138

[kind hatch]

I was also worried that me making a jesus joke just after your jesus joke, might prompt an unending cascade of jesus jokes which would surely ultimately bring about armageddon and the end of the world.

And I just could not that happen

[lusty crypt]

Speaking of rising from the dead. You survived!

[jade quartz]

He was left on the boarder of the lands for dead.

[lusty crypt]

I tried to start this rumor on Twitter, but...

DID YOU KNOW: ROBBY IS THE BODY MODEL FOR THE RETURN OF HANDSOME JACK?

and that's the only joke I'll make, because i don't want to disrespect robby and his position of needing to stay quiet.

[bold burrow]

It’s true, I burned the vault symbol on my face and everything

[lusty crypt]

and that was before you worked at Gearbox

[modest zodiac]

And I will test it for you 🙂

[raw dove]

Here is an idea:

We create a 3DO patreon.... and it just sits there.., getting money.. and then eventually.. someone takes the patreon from us.. and gets all the momey.. and makes a 3do.........maybe

Like a down payment on a ford fiesta, but instead its a 3DO core

anyone in here a lawyer?

i just make Virtual machines and database and stuff.... i cant do real coding

[abstract mist]

Hopefully 3DO is in higher demand than a Ford Fiesta...

[twin wing]

more fiestas were sold...

[kind hatch]

This is a great idea and we can leave the money resting in my account in the meanwhile

[raw dove]

yeah, and if no one steps up to the plate..... i buy myself a ford fiesta.. whic would suck.. cuz i WANTED a new tundra

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/father-ted-resting-in-my-account-the-money-was-resting-in-my-account-gif-11784167

[lusty crypt]

Someone is finally working on a CDi core. There's hope for the 3DO.

[halcyon dagger]

give me plumbers don't wear ties on my CRT or give me death

I think it's funny that the CDi core came about first purely due to it having such a notorious misfire in the form of Phillips Zelda. As I understand it the developer already owned a CDi, mainly on account of his enthusiasm for YouTube poops

Plumbers Don't Wear ties is arguably as iconic of a bad game, but a much deeper cut still

[lusty crypt]

It's sad to see both consoles reduced to being known mostly for their bad games.

[half ibex]

Secrets of Tatjana is better than Plumbers Don't Wear ties

[halcyon dagger]

i wouldn't consider it sad! with the CDi, most of the games are bad but have such a distinct personality to their badness that people still remember it with a lot of affection. i think two things can be true. i love a lot of bad movies for the same reason.

[lusty crypt]

It's true. I do buy a LOT of trash from Vinegar Syndrome for the same reason. 😂

[bold burrow]

I think it’s accessibility. People can’t play the CD-i or 3DO easily so the notoriety of some of the titles takes over the conversation because that brings in more attention.

Once MiSTer cores get made for both of those consoles I think you’ll see some opinions turn.

I can only speak for myself but due to ignorance and lack of access to the CD-i I didn’t place much value in it at all. After exploring the library I think it’s pretty cool and there’s a ton of stuff that really sparks my interest.

[halcyon dagger]

Yeah, with MiSTer cores it changes the calculus so a system is worth exploring as long as there's a few gems. I am truly excited to try the few great 3DO exclusives out there (most of which I found via @white narwhal)

[jade quartz]

Don't miss Twisted! A shockingly fun game show multiplayer game.

[lusty crypt]

You're the best, Robby.

[jade quartz]

Robby is better than me confirmed. I accept my defeat. Next time Robby. Next time.

[lusty crypt]

You're great too, but I had to deduct a point because of Wisconsin.

[jade quartz]

Awbacon's alternate account discovered!

[raw dove]

Proof?

[raw dove]

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/08/the-ill-fated-philips-cd-i-is-getting-its-own-mister-fpga-core

Got it

[lusty crypt]

There’s a channel in this Discord

[raw dove]

Surrreeeee next your going to tell me a guy named Bob made a n64 or or or psx core

(I found it...thanks for the heads up)

[unique edge]

I want 68040 or 3DO, just give me something that will play super wing commander

[lusty crypt]

@jade quartz Is the 3DO core done yet?

[jade quartz]

I'm playing it right now. And I refuse to share it with anyone else!

[lusty crypt]

Such 90s tude!

[abstract mist]

No kidding. Feels like CPS2 Shock all over again!

[flat flint]

One of a few games left for PS1. 😁

[oak basalt]

I forget, what's the best 3DO emulator?

[jaunty yacht]

Unserious answer: MiSTer in 2028

[modest zodiac]

According to the emulation wiki the Opera libretro core is the recommended one

[lusty crypt]

Seconding the Opera Retroarch core. Especially if you switch on some QOL features like hi-res 3D and overclock.

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-foreseen-vision-psychic-gif-12611637

[jade sleet]

Pheonix if RetroArch isn't your thing

[modest zodiac]

I think the last one I tried was years ago and it was either 4do or FreeDO

[oak basalt]

Thanks all!

[jade sleet]

Neither have been updated in over a decade. Don't touch them anymore

Opera and Phoenix are the two most accurate and optimized. Both have tons of options

[modest zodiac]

I know, it was a long time ago when I last used them, I not tried to emulate 3DO since they were the popular ones lol

[jade sleet]

Been a while, then haha

[modest zodiac]

Yup lol, now I am just waiting for a MiSTer core 😛

[jade sleet]

Opera used to be "4do" because it was a branch. The dev got tired of it being affiliated with the old 4DO so he changed the core name to Opera. It's had a complete rework in major parts of the emulator

[modest zodiac]

Ohhh cool cool

[jade sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-bob-sponge-forever-tired-gif-7583491

Despite being one of the most voted for among the obscure or "weird" consoles in polls every year, I don't think there will be a core

[modest zodiac]

I think there will be eventually just need a current dev or a brand new dev to undertake it, ElectronAsh started one once and got it to boot the BIOS bit then to the best of my knowledge never continued it

But people all said there wouldn't be a CD-I core then out of nowhere Slamy is working on it so I am holding out for a 3DO core eventually

[jade sleet]

3do requires extremely fast communication with ram for the SPORT function of the hardware. It's a decent hurdle

[modest zodiac]

Yeah, I understand it is not gonna be easy but I am still sure someone will attempt it at some point

[unique moat]

MiSTer 2 board should remove any potential technical hurdles trying to do 3DO on the DE-10 Nano. Seems there is uncertainty if it would be possible due to ram issues.

As more cores are made the 3DO looks more and more appealing for the systems nobody has taken on yet if a decent Dev is looking for a project to take on.

I suspect at some point we will have solid cores for 3DO, CDi, Virtual Boy and Jaguar

PC-FX too

[jaunty yacht]

PC-FX is one of the big guns of those that remain, for sure

[bold burrow]

isn't that the porno computer

[jaunty yacht]

Video game erotica told me it was good

[bold burrow]

checks out

[jade quartz]

Best youtube channel. All the erotic video game news and updates! With the occasional side of 🥓 !

[jade quartz]

In all seriousness, you're thinking of the PC-98. PC-FX is the successor to the PC Engine/Turbografx-16.

[bold burrow]

Why do you know this

[jade quartz]

I learned it from Video Game Erotica obviously. @white narwhal can confirm.

[twin wing]

you bested him, now take his place and visit maidcafes with dp

[white narwhal]

no thats your browsing history...sinner

Everything's bigger in Texas...including your browsing habits!

[bold burrow]

Is the PC-FX cool?

[white narwhal]

It has its moments

Team Innocent / Zenki FX are must plays

Chip Chan Kick is fun but also pervy and that’s not my jam

Rululi Ra Rula is ugly as sin but fun as hell. Metroidvania game

Zeroigar is worth playing

[jaunty yacht]

This is why I demand lists! VGEs top 4 PC-FX games!

Feed the algorithm!

[white narwhal]

lol I don’t think I’ve ever made a numbered list vid

Every time I tell people a collection of good games it gets downvoted to shit because if I forget someone’s fav game then it’s like I broke into their house and F’d their wife and took an upper decker

[jaunty yacht]

Some people would pay for that

But I get not wanting to deal with the fallout

I’m always keen to hear people’s favourite games, especially if it’s on systems that I haven’t got much exposure to

[jade quartz]

Hey, as long as the list includes Killing Time, we all good.

[jade sleet]

https://youtu.be/jXss06sab2Y?si=txErWb8oJRTXpr6Y

[white narwhal]

Who let you in here?

[jade sleet]

The door was open

[bold burrow]

Sorry, only people with “3DO” in their name are allowed in here

…. shit

[white narwhal]

Like @bold burrow mommas bedroom

[lusty crypt]

MK2 is coming together nicely.

[jade sleet]

It's close to beta testing stage. Audio is being wrapped up rn

[torn wraith]

THe Mister 3d0 core in Git, hasn't been updated for a year or so, is it still "active", or put on a "backburner", or it's not happenning? Don't mind however long it takes, just a bit of latest news would be nice. Many thanks.

[bold burrow]

It might happen but just assume it’s been abandoned.

[bold burrow]

I honestly think it’ll definitely happen, it’s only a matter of time.

[kind hatch]

Slamy's CD-i core has infused all of our souls with hope for the improbable

[torn wraith]

Thanks for the insight, be nice to see it working if it does get picked up again.

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-inevitable-avengers-gif-26958275

[lusty crypt]

Having just recently revisited my CDi collection... it will be a crime if we never get a 3DO core while that... thing... does. 😅

[radiant crow]

Yup. If we get a fully functioning CD-I core then 3DO, Jaguar and Virtual Boy are inevitable

[unique moat]

What has become apparent with CDi core progress is the system is a lot more simple than probably most people assumed. The system is really 4th gen rather than 5th gen.

[lusty crypt]

It's a really simple system comparatively. I'm actually glad there's a core in progress. My 550 unit is starting to have laser issues.

[radiant crow]

Not too surprising. It realeased in 1990/1991. Pretty basic graphics all things considered

Regarding Jaguar, might not be possible on current hardware due to RAM limitations

3DO is PS1/Saturn level so it's definitely possible but a lot of work

[unique moat]

Actually 3DO is the unknown there - has been a lot of discussion about whether the ram requirements of the 3DO could be met on the DE-10 Nano

[lusty crypt]

Robert gave a very clear opinion on it, and he's one of if not the best around. I believe him. And I'm sure he'd love to be proven wrong.

[waxen violet]

the VRAM is very special, but should be possible to replicate at a good level, compared to e.g. the PSX core quality.
For a fully, 100% accurate way, it would probably either require a second sdram or a different FPGA with enough BRAM

the question is if anyone would notice. Like the dual sdram version of psx is also pointless

[bold burrow]

Most people aren’t familiar with the 3DO so probably not

[half ibex]

I am really interested in funding some money to help do a decap of a 3DO console.

[lusty crypt]

I fully agree. I love the thing, but even I prefer the dodgy emulation options to hardware these days.

[bold burrow]

3DO is pretty cool, I’d love to see a core even if it isn’t as accurate due to hardware limitations

[lusty crypt]

Get to work, Robby.

And add netplay support.

[jade quartz]

Awbacon: "Hold my beer!" ||And subpar VT cheese. ||

In all seriousness, I even had a 3DO, and played it a ton back in the day. But it's been so long since then, that even I would likely not notice any minor incosistencies.

[reef copper]

I cant believe I live in a world where there is a in progress cd-i core but still no 3do core 😭😭

[reef copper]

It would probably still feel better than software emulator Ive tried. I owned a 3do and every emulator Ive tried felt off in some way.

[white narwhal]

I’ll cut you

[white narwhal]

The question is always “is the difference mathematical or human noticeable” because so many differences on MiSTer can be detected by tools and tests but the end user would never know

[unique moat]

Nice to see Robert checking in on the 3DO channel. Hope springs eternal. 🙂

[waxen violet]

can't judge currently if there is enough bandwidth on one sdram to hold both main ram and vram. If yes, the difference would be minimal.
If ddr3 is required to hold the vram, it would lead to the same situation we have with psx: average bandwidth to vram must be higher to compensate for the long random delays. Therefore some games might see issues. For psx there are 5(?) games known where this is an issue and 3 of them could be solved with an OSD option

[bold burrow]

Seems like a great compromise to me!

[wispy bolt]

For psx there are 5(?) games known where this is an issue and 3 of them could be solved with an OSD option
what does OSD mean here? does it just mean "we could have an option in the OSD menu that you can trigger for these games"?

[bold burrow]

I think he means increasing the core’s internal clock speed

[wispy bolt]

so OSD does just mean "triggered/set in the on-screen display" here

👍

[lusty crypt]

Wish we could route audio to the headphone jack of a Dual Shock/Sense to really capture the awesomeness of the 3do

[waxen violet]

there are OSD options to alter the timing, like "GPU slowdown" or CPU turbo. When these are used, some of these issues are gone

but you can't use them as default on all games, because on average they make the core less accurate, but for some games the shift in a certain direction is needed as the current vram speed hits a sweet spot for them to show (mostly minor) glitches

[wispy bolt]

interesting. what games are these on PSX?

[waxen violet]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/244

[jade quartz]

Haha, I checked the video of the example issue for Chrono Cross, and the random visual junk that shows up in the battle looks like it does so in time with the music. 🤣

[torpid ravine]

One of the main reasons this core needs to exist!

[white narwhal]

You misspelled Killing Time

[jade quartz]

Seriously though, Twisted is awesome.

[abstract mist]

It's time to get Twisted!

pick me, pick me, pick me, pick me...

[torpid ravine]

I really feel it showcases the systems video capabilities. Really felt like a wacky live and interactive game show.

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/m-and-ms-christmas-commercial-they-do-exist-they-exist-commercial-gif-19390949

Me after watching @white narwhal 's latest M2 video.

[white narwhal]

🤣

[polar flower]

Myth or Fact: If you plug a 3do controller into a Genesis or Atari, it will fry the console.

[jade quartz]

Never tried it! But I did plug the Genesis controller into the Atari 2600 and it worked.

[abstract mist]

Works on a C64/C128 as well. B button is the action button.

Never tried my 3DO controllers on anything but my 3DO though.

It's my understanding that the pinout is different.

[polar flower]

Yeah i remember when i only had 1 genesis controller, we'd use my cousin's cx40 on my genesis for 2nd player. Obviously they were not equal but it was exciting that we could do it.

[raw loom]

You'll probably fry something. The voltage & ground pins are in different places on the 3DO controller compared to the Genesis/Atari standards.

[polar flower]

Amazing. Take a standard port that has existed for over a decade and rewire it to fry the competition.

[lusty crypt]

Worth it for having a headphone jack on your controller.

Plus having the daisy chain port on top.

[polar flower]

Ah okay so that's the benefit. Still no need to move the voltage and ground pins.

[lusty crypt]

Sounds like something a 3DO hater would say...

[polar flower]

[jaunty yacht]

DIVORCE!

[lusty crypt]

stated reason: irreconcilable differences

[polar flower]

Signed 📜🖋️

[polar flower]

easiest divorce ever. We should do this again sometime.

[jade quartz]

I feel like I've lost my two dads...

[lusty crypt]

Look on the bright side: double Christmas gifts as @polar flower and I compete for your love.

[jaunty yacht]

I thought @white narwhal was your dad?

[polar flower]

3 dads. Now things are getting interesting.

[lusty crypt]

THREE dads?!

[jade quartz]

He's my real dad. mistahsnart and Virtual Matt are my step dads. They had to take me from Awbacon because he was a deadbeat dad.

[polar flower]

No one is going to question this story

[lusty crypt]

All he did all day was play scratchers and drink.

Which is fine. It was all the Taito arcade boards that were the problem.

[jade quartz]

He spent all day killing time by playing Killing Time. No time for little MARl0.

[lusty crypt]

His heart belongs to Tess Conway

What's important @jade quartz is that you're loved.

Shame about the Wisconsin thing.

[lusty crypt]

Just wanted to give an update: @polar flower and I have decided to give it another shot.

It's important to us that little @jade quartz has a loving home full of copies of Gex to play on his 3DO.

[polar flower]

Yes. I was worried for little @jade quartz after @white narwhal didn't even acknowledge that little @jade quartz had referred to him as his deadbeat dad.

[jade quartz]

The 3DO family is back together!

[jaunty yacht]

You guys truly are the greatest. Glad to see you’re giving it another go ❤️

[kind hatch]

This is why relationships should never be based solely on Gex.

[white narwhal]

I officially disown @jade quartz and now adopt @bold burrow as my son

[jaunty yacht]

Lucky @bold burrow 😂

[jade quartz]

Run Robby! He'll make you eat VT cheese!

[jaunty yacht]

He fled to Japan to escape

[jade sleet]

9 pin has been rewired for a bazillion applications like serial and other proprietary uses.

[polar flower]

It's a controller. It is clearly modeled after the Genesis controller

[jade sleet]

It should simply reset the system. I'm not gonna be that guy to test it though

[jade sleet]

Point being is it wasn't a wiring standard. A genesis plug should also be quite hard to squeeze into the 3dos rounded serial port

[jade sleet]

Also would you agree the PS1 controller is modeled after the SNES controller?

[polar flower]

I would agree

[raw loom]

Yep. The PS1 controller was designed off the SNES controller because the PlayStation started as an expanded Super Nintendo during development.

The 3DO wasn’t the only controller to take inspiration from another console’s pads, either. The CD-i also had official 3-button and 4-button pads which took influence from the Genesis and SNES, respectively.

(As an aside, the 4-button pad used almost identical plastic tooling to the Gravis Gamepad on PC, which was also inspired by the SNES.)

[jade sleet]

What other option is there to lay buttons out? Genuine question. At some point you have to move past 1 and 2 buttons and have a reasonable layout.

[raw loom]

6-button faces, like the 6-button pads on Genesis/Jaguar.

Any more than that, and you get into numpad territory, like the ColecoVision/Intellivision.

[jade sleet]

They're inline too, just like the OG Genesis. Wouldn't necessarily count that as a "new" layout per say

[raw loom]

There’s GameCube’s off-shape buttons. I’m sure you could find some odd layouts on plug-and-plays, too.

There’s a 5-button Mortal Kombat pad, for instance:

[jade sleet]

Looks gross

[raw loom]

It could be worse

Could be this:

[lusty crypt]

That controller looks like it feels great...

[jade sleet]

Which is kinda of my point. At what point does an alternative design just look and play like ass? Do you keep traditional inline or go fourway? Or do you build a brand so big that you can do whatever you want and people buy it regardless? I think Nintendo could sell miyamotos turds sun dried at this point and people would buy it

[jade sleet]

Lmfao

[finite anchor]

I just recently learned about this game that was meant to be released on the Neo Geo, but was released on 3DO in korea, it looks interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_Typhoon

[jade quartz]

I can't believe we're less than two days away from the Killing Time remaster! Awbacon will let us know if it's a remaster disaster. Or if it's the greatest thing since....well since Killing Time!

[lusty crypt]

Isn't he in the credits? I think he mentioned something about helping out.

[jade quartz]

Yeah, he lent some materials to them for it. I believe it was something like packaging or instruction manual stuff? @white narwhal

[white narwhal]

Some original art materials / other info

[jaunty yacht]

“Original art” sounds like code to me

[lusty crypt]

@white narwhal is promoting the Big Killing Time® military industrial complex.

[polar flower]

I always come to the 3do thread to get these insider scoops

Never disappoints

[lusty crypt]

It's always "wen 3DO core"

Never "wut 3DO core"

[finite anchor]

3DO core, one game for Christmas?

[lusty crypt]

Ultimate miracle: that game is Gex.

[finite anchor]

I’d be happy with the bios screen at this point 😂

[shrewd belfry]

Green Goblin is actually Gex cosplay

[lusty crypt]

It's funny that the credits of Killing Time Resurrected say they only learned of the real life location of the Conway Estate during development.

They could've just asked me. 🤣

[jade quartz]

I've played about an hour of the Killing Time remaster! It's great so far! Ducks have been murdered. 🦆

[jade quartz]

He deserved it.

[jade sleet]

Pretty sure they stated it uses PC levels, also 3do assets are enabled by default. Not sure what exactly it is he's confused about because it showed plenty to make it clear of this, in all the sneak peaks.

[bold burrow]

what’s up with the ducks

[lusty crypt]

What's not up with them?

[white narwhal]

Killing Time review at 4 pm....but here are spoilers

"GAME FUCKING SLAPS" - VGE

notice: Video Game Esoterica is a highly biased party who contributed things for said remaster and should not be trusted to give objective reviews on this game. Also come find me in the game!

[white narwhal]

Thumb for 4

[lusty crypt]

Tickle tickle

[jade quartz]

Dis gonna be good.

[white narwhal]

its the most biased review possible 🤣 but I warn people ahead of time (and do allow for critique like "if you dont enjoy 90s era FPS games with a lot of hidden switches and hunting around, you may not love this"

[lusty crypt]

I feel that. I picked up the Dark Forces remaster and quickly realized how much FPS game design has changed. Lots of "important doors that don't look like doors" moments. KT has that going too.

[jade quartz]

So you're saying that you're killing time by trying to open things that don't look like doors in Killing Time? That's deep.

[white narwhal]

There’s def switch hunting portions where you can’t progress til you find like five switches that all love to blend into the background art

It’s not Hexen levels of confusing but it’ll stump you here and there

[white narwhal]

There it is! Well one of two places

[jade quartz]

That doesn't say Awbacon! It says A. Bacon! Unacceptable! ||Congrats! 🎉 ||

[lusty crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/bacon-lisa-simpson-hungry-gif-11233467

[lusty crypt]

I used to have so much more patience for it. Now I'm like "where's the location marker? Where's the white paint?" 😅

[jade sleet]

You stomp them

[jaunty yacht]

His middle name is “want”
A. want Bacon

[jade quartz]

RIP

[white narwhal]

Haha you found it first

[jade quartz]

So it's confirmed that we've been communicating with a zombie this entire time. That answers sooo many questions!

[polar flower]

Are we certain he's not communicating with us while living in the year 1690?

[jade quartz]

I love that this implies that he lived to the ripe old age of 115.

[white narwhal]

a life as long as I am

[white narwhal]

its CM sir. Ask your mother

I tuck it into my sock

[lusty crypt]

I don't want to hear about what you toss in your socks.

[white narwhal]

I put in nickels and start beating people with it

homey the clown style

[lusty crypt]

I wish I had a gif of the glue filled socks from Ren and Stimpy handy.

[jaunty yacht]

So they edited the game itself? Unplayable!

[lusty crypt]

Trashed it.

[white narwhal]

https://youtu.be/J1F_P6WOfPQ

and like everything I do 3DO...views suck 🤣

[lusty crypt]

Just finished watching it. Good video. 🍻

[white narwhal]

Super fun one to make

[raw loom]

I’ve really been enjoying Killing Time Resurrected. The FMV gives it a consistent story element that sets it apart from your average boomer shooter, and you can see how the open-world map inspired a lot of later games in the genre.

[white narwhal]

It’s basically Half Life meets Bioshock but before those two games would ever exist

Open world narrative focused first person shooter with an art deco vibe

And maybe the best acting and voice over work of the era since they got Broadway and off broadway actors in the roles

[jade quartz]

I'm having fun in the sewers shooting poop monsters now. 💩

[abstract mist]

Your audience apparently has a surprisingly large amount of normies.
3DO content is simply too sophisticated for them.

[white narwhal]

3DO never does awesome but that doesn’t matter to me

[abstract mist]

Make the content you enjoy making. 🙂

[jade quartz]

If we get a 3DO core, it will surely do well on Youtube! If the CD-i can bring in the views, surely the 3DO can as well!

[jaunty yacht]

Yeah, it’s probably an accessibility thing. Maybe. How good are 3DO emulators?

[white narwhal]

Haha I can’t believe as many people watch the CD-I videos as they do

[jade quartz]

Making progress in Killing Time! Only have one key left to find.

The map is super helpful since it shows where hidden switches are.

[lusty crypt]

Finished it this morning. The map definitely made it easier.

[white narwhal]

I am maybe like half way through. I’m just exploring. Seeing if anything new is there

[jade sleet]

https://youtu.be/po5dwFSIRlI

[jade quartz]

||Duncan|| is chasing me! The OG Mr. X.

[jade quartz]

Just finished the game. It's shocking just how well it holds up. It really was ahead of its...ahem...time.

[lusty crypt]

Only achievement I missed is finishing the game in under two hours. Because.... No.

[jade quartz]

I do wonder what an optimized speedrun of the game would look like.

[lusty crypt]

Really coming along. The zoomed in view still looks weird to me, but that's just because it's different to what I've been playing for 30 years.

[jade sleet]

It's not zoomed in, it's the normal size assets on a smaller resolution

The arcade resolution is like 100px wider in each side

[lusty crypt]

Ok. But it's still a cropped view of the stage. The spike ceiling fatality with the slow pan is a good demo of that.

[jade sleet]

I might could bring up to him to see if he can program it to make the assets scale down a little to make the play screen seem bigger

[lusty crypt]

I figured it was an intentional design choice.

[jade sleet]

No, it's just the arcade assets at original size. They're huge assets. With PS1, Saturn, etc... they're all scaled down for memory saving reasons, so the play screen is "larger"

@lusty crypt 3do vs Saturn

[lusty crypt]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

I'm just saying it looks odd. Here's MK II arcade

Here's the 3DO version

But if it's a design choice, then so be it. It's just a very different presentation. Not good or bad.

[jade sleet]

This recording is squished terribly

[lusty crypt]

It's not. It's 4:3

[jade sleet]

4:3 is definitely squished. The art asset rips say so, anyway

[lusty crypt]

SNES, CPS2, Genesis... Take your pick. They all have wider ratios than 4:3. But that's not how anyone played them.

[jade sleet]

Arcade tubes had vertical adjustments that no one used. If adjusted to keep the graphics from being cut off so bad on the top of the screen for MK2 youd have a proper ratio. If you played on an unadjusted MK2 cab CRT, your experience has been a lie

Adjusted vs unadjusted

[lusty crypt]

All a lie.

🤣

Not sure why you can't just see that the top of the stage is cut off, but whatever. 🤣🤣

[jade sleet]

Of course it is, I already agreed and pointed out the 3do resolution is 320x240 vs the arcade 400x254. My point was that your screenshot used to compare is misleading because it squeezes the arcade image into the same 4:3 ratio as the 3do uses. Arcade is not 4:3 and it's not 320x240

[lusty crypt]

Ultra misleading.

All my experiences are a lie.

[jade sleet]

I'm not sure where you wanted this to go. You brought up the 3do was "zoomed in". I explained why it looked "zoomed in", where you then said it was cropped. So I posted a comparison of scaled down Saturn sprites versus the fullsize arcade on 3do. All of which lead to you posting a vertically stretched to 4:3 MK2 in emulation and you denying it was a poor representation of the arcade because you claimed the arcade is 4:3.

Also yes, if you played the arcade game on an unadjusted CRT with a vertically stretched screen, your experience regarding arcade perfection is simply untrue lol. Its not an attack of your character. MK2 in every technical and intended use case is not a 4:3 game. It's an arcade machine, it's supposed to be adjusted for one single game for one display. Your SNES can get away with it because it's got hundreds of games and connects to millions of displays

[jade quartz]

Sounds like it's basically just "screen crunch". Similar to when NES and SNES games were ported to the GB and GBA. Like Super Mario Bros. Deluxe on the GBC. Same pixel dimensions for everything, but less screen resolution/realestate, which gives you less visibility.

[jade sleet]

Right and instead of making entirely new assets or heavily modifying them, it was decided to just use the full sized sprites. At the end of the day, I'm sure the dev can write some code to scale backwards, like in samurai showdown. Minus the in and out movements. Just a fixed camera that's slightly further back. And he may, who knows.

But he managed to fit all the arcade sprites into ram at 1:1 size, 60fps, and full parallax with extra on some stages. If it had been less than any of those 3 things, I'm sure no one would hear the end of it.

[bold burrow]

I’m not impressed.

I’m blown away!

[kind hatch]

I'm just the normal type of impressed.

[jade quartz]

You remembered to follow through this time! Congrats! 🎉

[lusty crypt]

No flex though. I've come to expect a flex.

[lusty crypt]

I didn't want it to go anywhere. It got weird and funny. 🙂

I'm looking forward to the finished game.

[abstract mist]

💪 😬

[jaunty yacht]

Hi Robby

[abstract mist]

Sorry. Only had so much time to respond on this bullet train. Moving too fast.

[jade sleet]

https://youtu.be/m0p2HO-CkeE?si=8zGk9bnRDFpNpfn1

[jaunty yacht]

#1055574003810578503 message
@jade quartz

It’s a completely different game on DC? Just the same name?

[jade quartz]

Yeah, the original version that was in development for the M2 was canceled, and then the game was heavily reworked when it finally released on Dreamcast.

[jaunty yacht]

Ahhh, that’s kinda cool. Thank you 🙂

I still need to get around to playing the first game!

It’s on “the list”

[jade quartz]

Aw🥓 actually just did a video series on it!

[jaunty yacht]

I know but I usually fall asleep to his videos 😂

[jade quartz]

Daaaaaamn.

You hear that @white narwhal !?

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-throw-under-the-bus-toss-under-the-bus-thrown-under-the-bus-south-park-gif-12530727

[white narwhal]

It’s ok. I put everyone in his family to sleep. I tucked his mom into bed last night

[jaunty yacht]

I’m kidding. Occasionally I do queue up a bunch and fall asleep - only to wake up to some random 3 hour long game sack video

It’s literally always Game Sack. I have no idea why

[white narwhal]

I fall asleep watching YouTube every afternoon

[jaunty yacht]

New videos come out at night over here. It means I always have a new VGE video to watch in bed 😂

[jade quartz]

I'm always wide awake, because I need to keep my unhinged comments flowing onto his channel.

[jaunty yacht]

Me too. You might know me as DrNoBrazil

[white narwhal]

Haha I love that guy

I hope he never leaves

[wet crown]

2025 year of the 3DO core, heard it here folks

All we have to do is capture Robert, and tell him he can't get back to his game until both 3D0 and Ngage Core come out.

[jaunty yacht]

An N-Gage core! That’s definitely one I haven’t heard anyone requesting 😅

[jade quartz]

Nobody has been engaged with the platform.

[bold burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[lusty crypt]

Even I’m meh on an Ngage core

[dapper oar]

I'm not opposed to the idea, but I don't know if it's feasible.

Also, if you're gonna include N-Gage, include the Tectoy Zeebo as well.

Don't know if the Tapwave Zodiac and the Gizmondo would be truly feasible on the DE-10 Nano.

[jade quartz]

Game.com core when.

[dapper oar]

When the Virtual Boy and Pokémon Mini get there first.

[unique moat]

Pokémon Mini been here for a good while already

[dapper oar]

I keep forgetting. Sorry.

[unique moat]

It is going to be interesting to see what new cores get developed next year though. With CDi making great advances, Jaguar becoming stable, and Super Cassette Vision nearing completion, systems like Virtual Boy, 3DO and game.com are looking more appealing out of what is left

[modest zodiac]

I am hoping for a 3DO core at some point

[jaunty yacht]

ViRtUaL bOy!

[jaunty yacht]

Really surprised and happy to see the CDi and Jaguar cores making rapid progress. It’s great that more people will get to discover these systems

[unique moat]

Yeah, definitely, so few people will have actually owned these systems let alone had anything close to the full library. Definitely an exciting time for people interested in the less prestigious consoles.

[jaunty yacht]

The Jaguar in particular always seemed a bit of a mystery to me at the time. Cool name, logo and sounded powerful (64 bits?!?!), but I didn’t ever see one in the wild

[jade quartz]

I only played a real Atari Jaguar once in my life. One of my old friends had one back in the day. The controller was definitely...something.

But I owned a 3DO myself!

[jaunty yacht]

Do you still have it?

[jade quartz]

I.......do not.

It's the only console I sold back in the day! And only because I got $500 for it. But I still wish I never sold it.

[jaunty yacht]

That’s quite a lot. How much do they even go for nowadays? Can’t imagine it’s much more

[abstract mist]

A Nokia N-Gage core would be the GOAT(se)!

[lusty crypt]

You can still get an FZ-10 for under $100.

Which if I were buying a 3DO now, is the one I’d go for.

[jaunty yacht]

Our boy @jade quartz made a mint then!

He’s basically Scrooge McDuck at this stage

That’s really much less than I thought they’d go for today

[lusty crypt]

I assume he sold it with controllers and games. I’m talking about just the console with nothing.

[jade quartz]

No, I sold just the console for $500 at the time. I bought it on launch day for $700. And sold it only about two years later for $500. So I didn't own it for long unfortunately. I remember using that money towards my N64.

[lusty crypt]

That absolutely makes sense. I bought mine at the end of the 90s when you could buy an entire collection for $40 on Craigslist. Same story with my CD-i, Jaguar, Sega CD, etc.

In 2000, I was picking up entire Sega Saturn lots for $30.

[jaunty yacht]

Woah, I didn’t realise the 3DO was that much when it came out

That probably explains why it didn’t sell very well

[jaunty yacht]

You made the right choice in going for the N64 though

[jade quartz]

Yeah, I was young and didn't have the money for the N64, so I decided to part with my 3DO. It was the right decision at the time, but I still regret it these days. At least I still have my N64 and Saturn. I did actually sell my PS1 back in the day as well after I bought my PS2 since that console could play PS1 games.

[polar flower]

I sold my Genesis and games to go towards an n64.

[jade quartz]

Most of us did that as kids back in the day. Such is the life of not having money! ||Yes, I get the irony of saying that knowing I had a $700 3DO! ||

[bold burrow]

@white narwhal want to see something cool I found out I could do yesterday

[white narwhal]

does this involve your private bits?

I dont want a helicopter gif

[bold burrow]

@white narwhal ok now post

[white narwhal]

WOW. I SEE HOW IT IS

Well the Alamo isn’t cool and propane sucks!

[bold burrow]

Lmao

[white narwhal]

Charcoal for life

[bold burrow]

Ok sorry, I put it back

Oh oops

[white narwhal]

(Ok that’s actually how I really feel. Charcoal beats propane)

[bold burrow]

My bad, you might need to reset your nickname?

@white narwhal anyways, why would they give me access to that LOL

[white narwhal]

lol way to go...now IVE gotta fix it

how do I do that again?

Thanks blobby

[lusty crypt]

What in the wide world of sports is a goin on in here?

[white narwhal]

chicanery is afoot

[finite anchor]

I wonder when the surprise 3DO core will come? There has to be a developer secretly cooking one up

[jade quartz]

Never take it out again!!

[wet crown]

I successfully distracted you with Ngage so the one true console can sneak in undetected

[torpid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-scared-worried-shocked-horrified-gif-15434993

I had a game.com. I liked the idea of it. But the games…oh boy. The games.

[wet crown]

I was maybe like 12, I saved up money, went to store with my friend and his mom, came home with it, and then my mom was like......wtf did you just do

I think I only ever had the built in light game (which ruled) and Wheel of Fortune

[torpid ravine]

An abomination that should make someone question its preservation. Like “Would future humans be better off knowing the Game.com did not exist?”

[wet crown]

What if it had a mini-disc attachment though

[scenic kite]

Game.com games were not that bad. It was the horrible screen that sucked so bad. A FPGA recreation would be very welcome to me.

[proven basin]

unlikely its a 10 Mhz CPU

[jaunty yacht]

What’s the problem with that?

[bold burrow]

I’m dying holy shit 😂

[jade quartz]

Come on Robby, enough with the selfies.

[abstract mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylB253okwtw

[lusty crypt]

“Dear Penthouse…”

[jade quartz]

Hope you all have a R•E•A•L Christmas this year!

[lusty crypt]

Happy Holidays from me, Trip, and the rest of the 3DO family.

https://youtu.be/tSsXtOvDd4U?si=c2Uwso-ysSnFTyxY

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-cat-scream-head-bang-thurston-waffles-gif-15809057

[bold burrow]

holy shit I love this gif so much

[jade quartz]

It doesn't get any more-a rock'n! 🤘

[jade quartz]

Here's to a R•E•A•L 3DO core in the upcoming new year!

[stable crow]

Without 3DO fifth-generation is not complete in my opinion. Hope to see 3DO core development in 2025!

[bold burrow]

Hopefully someone who likes the 3DO and knows FPGA development materializes

[kind hatch]

We must find this person...

To the MiSTer mobile!!!

https://tenor.com/view/batmobile-batman-animated-series-driving-fast-driving-gif-11907990

[bold burrow]

I think it’s only a matter of time tbh

It presents an interesting challenge and I think there’s a few interesting exclusives there that would appeal to most people.

It’s just a matter of continuing to beat that drum until the right person notices.

[main crystal]

Please, we must focus our energy on the completion of the jaguar core. Then we can shift to 3DO. Priorities!

[proven basin]

3DO will allow everyone to see how shit it is

[shut tulip]

You Trippin'

[radiant crow]

Exactly. Been here since 2020 and a lot of "impossible" or "lack of interest" cores have been done since. For example, the 3 5th gen consoles (PS1, Saturn and N64) were thought to be extremely unlikely. Then cores that had little interest such as the 32X and Neo Geo CD became a reality out of nowhere. Then there are new core developers that show up and suprise you like Slamy with the CD-i core and Grieverhart with the Pokemon Mini core. 3DO will happen someday

[main crystal]

we just need to get Robert really invested in the 3DO library

[radiant crow]

He made a Lynx and WonderSwan core so it could happen!

[unique moat]

He was saying the other day he really isn't taken by the library enough to sink in the 1000s of hours it would take

Maybe another champion will emerge. Who knows what srg320 will move onto when he is done with Saturn, which must be nearing the down tools point on the DE-10

[radiant crow]

Yeah I was being sarcastic lol. But I think the MiSTer Pi will bring a lot of people into MiSTer including maybe a new dev or two

[unique moat]

3DO and VB must be looking more appealing to prospective Devs now out of what is left

Although 3DO may well need the next board to be doable, there is still confusion there

[main crystal]

but my Jaguar

[radiant crow]

It might be better to just wait on a new board for 3DO. Robert mentioned how it’d take up to 6 months to get the N64’s timing perfect as well as develop other features for he core that couldn’t fit on the DE10 Nano. It becomes a question of whether it’s worth having to kind of rework a core on new hardware

I personally think we’ll get new FPGA hardware in late 2025, but only time will tell

Maybe it’s better to focus on hardware that’s not pushing the DE10 to its limits. Can’t wait for my Game.com core!

[unique moat]

Apparently that one has over 100mhz CPU so may not be doable, need a developer to confirm that though

[proven basin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game.com

10 mHZ

[unique moat]

Ah I was off by a factor of 10!

That CPU doable then?

[proven basin]

No idea speed isnt the only factor

it may have wierd caches and parallel pipelines

I have no idea

Looks like it had virtually no Sw and so would be another of the never used cores

[unique moat]

Reverend Gumby in doing Super Cassette Vision has done the missing parts for Epoch Game Pocket Computer and Hatung Game Master, so those two are low hanging fruit now. An experienced dev (like him) could probably knock those out in a couple of days now

[bold burrow]

I proclaim that not only is it doable but that it will be done!!

[proven basin]

Thats not for you to decide

[radiant crow]

That's awesome. Is Super Cassette Vision likely to be done in 2025?

[unique moat]

It's basically done now, Gumby is just making it even more accurate now he has an actual unit to dig into

Is already the most accurate emulation of the system, by the time it launches it should be the absolute gold standard

[radiant crow]

Love to hear that. I know that's the one system you've been craving @unique moat

[jade quartz]

One could say that he's Trip Hawkin'

[unique moat]

Yeah, that was definitely the most interesting pre 16bit system we didn't have, with proper games and actual exclusives. Very happy to finally be able to check this system out and see if preserved. Hope a lot more people check it out when it moves into Main

[abstract mist]

Funny how that reminds me of watching the demo disc that came with the 3DO... the "Heart of Ice" episode.
https://youtu.be/bnszJyvePtc?t=301

[finite anchor]

@median viper What Fpga board we’re you developing your 3DO core for when you were working on it?

[median viper]

tbh, I don't think I tried it on an actual FPGA yet, only in the Verilator sim. lol

I was genuinely thinking about 3DO again, earlier today.

Some of the 3DO stuff, like displaying the image, is currently done in the C code.

The main hurdle for the 3DO core atm, is fixing the ARM core, so it can run all of the ARM60 stuff.

The ARM60 has a few tweaks, vs the "standard" ARM6.

I was chatting to the author of the Zap ARM core for quite a while.

https://github.com/ElectronAsh/sim_3do/tree/main/rtl/zap

He did do some tweaks to make it more compatible with 3DO games/BIOS, but I don't think it's quite there yet.

Then he got super busy with work, etc. and/or just burned out with 3DO.

I know the feeling, very well. lol

I'm currently too burned out to build the five or so PCB projects I have on the bench, including the new DC mobo.

(and new GD Emu, DIY AV Receiver boards, all sorts.)

I might try to do a lazy "port" of getting the basic 3DO thing running on the DE10.

The 3DO has similar issues to the Jag, when it comes to memory bandwidth, though.

The 3DO used a similar type of VRAM to the MD/Genesis, which had a surprisingly fast way of shifting out bits to display the video.

And some methods to do fast clears and fills of VRAM.

It's likely to require Dual SDRAM, even if the rest of the core got finished. Even then, it might not be quite fast enough.

Also, all of the CD ISO loading stuff is using software emulation from RetroArch / Opera atm.

So no CD stuff at all in the Verilog, aside from the minimal amount to transfer the data from the software emu to the Verilog model.

So the most it would do on the DE10, is display the BIOS logo, and possibly the setup screen, etc.

I'll see if I can find time to do the rough port soon, though.

[shut tulip]

Yep, capital T 🙂

[finite anchor]

Thanks for the detailed explanation, i appreciate your efforts when it comes to 3DO and even a rough port is better than the nothing we have now

[dapper oar]

A 3DO core needs to happen. The fifth generation consoles that failed commercially, literally don't have that many good (or decent) STANDALONE, software emulators. Or none.

Neither on Windows, or Linux, or macOS.

[main crystal]

it will happen. just takes a dev to get interested in it

[dapper oar]

True.

[jade quartz]

Not to mention that 3DO is by far the best of the failed consoles. It really does have a shockingly good library of games.

[abstract mist]

It also has some of the most shockingly bad games as well... but the ones that are good are really good.

[radiant crow]

Indeed. The other failed consoles like the 32X, Virtual Boy and Jaguar all have a library of under 50, while people are surprised when they realize that the 3DO has 300 games

[proven basin]

and of those 300 . 0 are any good !

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/gex-slap-gex-enter-the-gecko-enter-the-gecko-hit-gif-24519640

[raw loom]

I mean - Need for Speed, Crash & Burn, Road Rash, Gex, Samurai Shodown, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Alone in the Dark, Wolfenstein 3D, Killing Time, Space Hulk, The Horde, Star Control 2, Lucienne’s Quest…

[radiant crow]

Escape from Monster Manor is such an underrated Doom clone

[abstract mist]

Wing Commander III, Super Wing Commander, Return Fire, Star Blade, PO'ed... and Twisted!

[main crystal]

M E G A R A C E

[shut tulip]

hmm, sequel might have been pc only. I seem to have em both on GOG 🙂

[raw loom]

…Out of this World, Flashback, Captain Quazar, Off World Interceptor, Shockwave, Guardian War, Total Eclipse, Lost Case Files of Sherlock Holmes, Cannon Fodder…

[jade quartz]

And I know this will be blasphemy for a lot of people, but the EA Sports games were legit incredible at the time on 3DO. Madden and FIFA were pretty mind blowing compared to any other versions.

[proven basin]

Almost everything you listed in your good games are ports from other machines. Cannon Fodder, Another World for example are the Amiga. WIng Commander games are PC. So the best games for the system are ports.

[kind hatch]

Return Fire, Need for Speed, Space Hulk, Road Rash were developed for 3DO and remain the best console versions.

Gex also

[proven basin]

Road Rash was on the Megadrive before the 3DO ever existed

I owned one from New and its the most disapointing purchase I ever made

[finite anchor]

Road Rash 3DO is not a port from the mega drive, it’s a good game imo.

[bold burrow]

If 3DO is so good then where’s 3D1?

[main crystal]

I think you mean 3DP

[finite anchor]

I think you mean the M2, only the privileged own those…

[raw loom]

You’ve got it backwards, actually. Most of the best games for 3DO were ported to other platforms after the fact - often with significant changes & compromises.

[proven basin]

ok so lets take

I mean - Need for Speed, Crash & Burn, Road Rash, Gex, Samurai Shodown, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Alone in the Dark, Wolfenstein 3D, Killing Time, Space Hulk, The Horde, Star Control 2, Lucienne’s Quest…

Need for speed - PC, Road Rash Megadrive, Samurai Showdown - NeoGeo, Alone in the Dark PC, Wolfenstein - PC Space Hulk PC, Star Control 2 PC

the 3D0 was port city

[bold burrow]

You forgot DOCTOR HAUZER

[proven basin]

Plus you cant ever state cannon fodder was ported from the 3D0 to the Amiga. Its just about the most well known Amiga Game

[bold burrow]

lol AMIGER

[jade quartz]

Road Rash 3DO is a sequel, not a port.

It would be like saying Mortal Kombat 9 is a port of Mortal Kombat just because its name is "Mortal Kombat".

[proven basin]

Roadrash megadrive. Ride a motorbike on a course punching opposiiton. Road Rash 3d0 ride a motobike on a couse punching opposition

its not a sequel its the same game

still I would welcome a 3DO core to show all you none owners just how terrible it was and such a massive ripoff

Even Video Esoterica when he shows the games often runs them at Turbo speed in the emulators just to make them playable

Its not a good system

[jade quartz]

It's literally a sequel.

[proven basin]

no its a remake

hence the title

[jade quartz]

Do I need to say it again?

It's not uncommon for sequels to receive the same title as the original.

Companies do it all the time when releasing a game on a platform that the originals are more known for. Similar to how Code Veronica only didn't receive the "3" in its title because the RE games were more known as Playstation games.

[proven basin]

Well thats one game out of the list thats mostly ports from other platforms

[jade quartz]

Road Rash is not a port though.

It was a 3DO exclusive until it was ported to PS1 and Saturn (and I believe PC).

[proven basin]

Irrelevent to the general discussion that most of the listed great games for the sytem are ports

[jade quartz]

It's literally relevant because it's not a port.

[proven basin]

but most of the others are ports

there are very very few original games on the 3D0

[kind hatch]

Wikipedia says Space Hulk was ported to pc from 3DO

[jade quartz]

Even that is a silly argument to make though considering how good the games were.

[proven basin]

I owned one for gods sake it was terrible

from new

[kind hatch]

I also owned one

In 94

[jade quartz]

3DO having a killer version of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo doesn't matter that it's a port of the arcade game, when it was a killer version of the game. Same with stuff like Another World.

[proven basin]

yep i got mine when it was released in the UK

[jade quartz]

Got my 3DO on launch day.

[proven basin]

Another World was an Amiga Game

[jade quartz]

And who the heck had an Amiga?

[proven basin]

Almost everyone in Europe

[jade quartz]

Who had a Super Turbo arcade machine?

[proven basin]

it was massively popular

[jade quartz]

Not in the US.

I never even heard of the Amiga until many years later.

[proven basin]

Poor US then, although there are a great deal of Amiga Fans in the US

[jade quartz]

I love the Amiga, but the 3DO was well known here, and nobody knew what an Amiga was.

[proven basin]

3DO was a total flop. I spent a great deal of my cash on it and it was terrible

I got vastly more out of the Amiga and then PC's

[jade quartz]

I wouldn't say it was a total flop. It lasted several solid years, and had a very solid library of games.

It was far from a success, but not a total flop by any definition of the word.

[proven basin]

well thats where we disagree. I see a very very thin library and a bunch of ports

[jade quartz]

At least not in the US.

Maybe it was in Europe, but not here.

One could argue that the Amiga was a total flop in the US. It's a silly argument.

[proven basin]

Apart from its sales figures in the states

roughly 700K Amigas were sold in the states

nearly 5 mil in the world

[jade quartz]

3DO was 100% a failure overall. No logical person would argue otherwise. But total flop indicates that it had nothing of value. It had a shockingly solid library of games.

[proven basin]

well we disagree it has a weak library

[kind hatch]

I only disagree with your factually incorrect statements. 3DO had zero good games, Space Hulk was a port etc.

[jade quartz]

You could go into a Best Buy and play a 3DO on a demo kiosk even. It was quite well known.

[proven basin]

but no one did

it sold very poorly

[jade quartz]

Of course it sold poorly. Nobody is arguing otherwise.

[proven basin]

because it had no Killer Titles and it was expensive

[jade quartz]

It was expensive as all hell yes. But it absolutely had killer titles.

[proven basin]

well as I said I disagree but thats the fun bit of the internet we dont need to be a uni mind

[jade quartz]

We had people visit my house just to play Super Turbo and Twisted.

[kind hatch]

Admit that Road Rash is not a port. Cmon. Admit it 🤪

[proven basin]

I had no one ever ask to play the 3D0, The amiga on the other hand had many people who wanted to play. Often had giant Sensible Soccer tournaments

[jade quartz]

One of my sister's friends was so obssessed with Twisted when she came to visit, that 25 years later would force her boyfriend to buy her an old 3DO just so she could experience the game again. It was that fun.

[proven basin]

Ok its not a port. I was incorrect, Eveything else I say stands

[kind hatch]

Space Hulk also not a port! Admit it you cad!

[proven basin]

Its a PC game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Hulk_(1993_video_game)

[kind hatch]

Admit that some of the games are good you feverish delinquent !!!

[proven basin]

no I cant. I never played any I considered good

[kind hatch]

Return Fire?

Hmmmmmmm??

[proven basin]

Never had it

[kind hatch]

Bah!!!

Wat bout Fifa?

Eh?

Knew it!

[proven basin]

Fifa was on every platform under the sun

[kind hatch]

The 3DO version is a different game

[proven basin]

looks like every other fifa from the youtube videos

[kind hatch]

Your a British, owned a 3DO, and didn't have Fifa!??!?

[proven basin]

yes

Personally I hate football

Now Cricket thats a game

although there has never been a good cricket game on Console or PC

I had the Amiga 1200 in 92 and it blew the 3DO away, it didnt have Fifa though

Plus it also had an interesting "Game Lending" environment

The 3DO didnt arrive until 94 in Europe

[jade quartz]

FIFA 3DO was incredible at the time. Madden was excellent, but FIFA, which came after, was so good it didn't seem R•E•A•L. Probably the most technically advanced game on the console.

The audio was also impressive. The crowd noises, the visuals, and the gameplay all together made FIFA on 3DO one of the first "mind blowing" experiences on any home console at the time.

Remember, the secret to winning is to never—ever make a mistake. You master that tactic, and you will always destroy your opponent.

[polar flower]

You could write a book

[jade quartz]

Only true 3DO fans will get that reference!

[proven basin]

all 4 of then 🙂

[jade quartz]

It's also relevant to the discussion at hand.

[finite anchor]

I dislike Cdi think I’ll go into that thread and tell everyone who likes it how bad it was, see ya!

[proven basin]

difference is I own a 3DO and so can give my opinion on it

I also think the CDI is a waste of time, along with the Amiga CD32

[jade quartz]

A lot of us in this thread own or owned a 3DO.

[proven basin]

Now I dont own a CDI , I just played on a friends back in the day

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[jade quartz]

Took me way too long to find a video with a clip of it!
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3dS-VzWwjvstYjZPIwyGW_dNNHBt2c9q?si=uVXDMdUOBeL6L-wV

[finite anchor]

I own one too, that’s why I want a core. We get it you don’t like 3DO…

[proven basin]

And this channel is for discussing the 3DO

now you will also find I voice my lack of fondness for the CD32 in that channel, and I am just amused the CDI is getting love

[jade quartz]

I think you meant to say "And this channel is for disgusting the 3DO"!

[proven basin]

I have my views. I own one, I dislike it and I will counter the 3D0 is a great machine when I see it

Just because soemthing is rare doesnt make it good

[finite anchor]

You should sell it, you could use the money on a console you enjoy

[proven basin]

I dont deal with real HW now. I play on Emulators and the Mister

It sits in my loft as a memory of days gone past

if I ever move it will go to landfill

[kind hatch]

We were countering your no good games statement.

[jade quartz]

I think the main point of contention here is that there are facts and there are opinions. You very very much like to sell your opinion as a fact. Intentionally or not, that's the way it comes across here.

[kind hatch]

And your Need for Speed is a port statement

[proven basin]

well thats just the way you interpret my typing. I am a very opinionated person !

[kind hatch]

Blatant falsities!!!

[jade quartz]

That also.

[proven basin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Need_for_Speed

it was on PC

[jade quartz]

The 3DO version was the original release of Need for Speed.

PC came later.

[kind hatch]

Not a port for the 3do though hmmmm?

[finite anchor]

I’d rather have the money and let someone else hate or love it if I didn’t like it

[proven basin]

I doubt it even functions now and there is no way I am dealing with Fleabay to sell it

[kind hatch]

You won't get away with this tim

[jade quartz]

Awbacan will take it off your hands for the high price of $0!

He can always use more 3DO in his collection.

[proven basin]

Sure its just $500 shipping to Chicago

[jade quartz]

Worth it.

[finite anchor]

Speaking of 3DO, has anyone got a controller working on mister? I’m not sure if they would work with a mega drive adapter

[proven basin]

they should do

although the passthrough wont work

[finite anchor]

I remember they used to sell snes controller adapters for 3DO

[proven basin]

No cable for reflex adapt it seems

[proven basin]

https://www.retrorgb.com/snes-2-3do-controller-adapter.html

[jade quartz]

I've obtained exclusive future footage of Robby's next visit to the 3DO thread.

https://tenor.com/view/burning-late-omg-what-happened-pizza-gif-11504119

[oak basalt]

3DO is one of those consoles where (most) of it's actual best games are available elsewhere, even on MiSTer. But for their time they were cool. I consider it similar to the Dreamcast in that most of it's best games were ported elsewhere after the console started to fail. But at the time the SF2 Turbo port was great and still has a unique OST. I have no real love for the 3DO but I appreciate it's place in history.

[kind hatch]

All I know is that in Return Fire on the 3DO you capture the flag in a little open top jeep and the flag sits in the back flapping in the wind while you race across the map to crystal clear flight of the bumblebee. It's perfect. In the ps1 port and other ports it's a closed top humvee that looks shit and the sound quality is kak.

[lusty crypt]

What the hell did I walk into?

Why do people come into the holy 3DO channel to say how much they don’t like the 3DO? 🤣

[main crystal]

https://tenor.com/wuzN.gif

[unique moat]

This is a very good question. I would like to see going forward people who don't like or it aren't interested in a system or topic just keep their overly negative opinions to themselves. If you don't like Burger King you don't go into Burger King and tell everyone how shit it is. At length. Repeatedly. If you don't like the 3DO then don't come into the 3DO channel...

Let's keep things a bit more positive if we can gang.

[bold burrow]

omg this chat blew up

[jade quartz]

The moment has arrived! #1052057593654284329 message

[bold burrow]

I don’t like the 3DO

I love it!

[jade quartz]

But do you love it?

[bold burrow]

LOL

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/slowpoke-pokemon-king-crown-gif-11621808

[bold burrow]

I remember being in a Macy’s and playing the 3DO kiosk for like an hour while my parents shopped.

[jade quartz]

I still say that we need a slowpoke emoji!

[bold burrow]

I don’t remember what the 3DO demo disc had in detail but I remember being blown away watching a Batman cartoon on it.

[shut tulip]

aww, you didnt mean speedy's cousin

[jade quartz]

lol, yeah the Mr Freeze episode was on the demo disk that was packed in with the console.

And Two Stupid Dogs!

[bold burrow]

lol two stupid dogs

[jade quartz]

I only remember that show because of the 3DO.

[bold burrow]

So I don’t really have nostalgia for the 3DO other than it being this mythical super console that was beyond anything else that was out there.

[jade quartz]

What's funny about the 3DO, is that not only did I have one, but my friend who lived across the street also had one. So between the two of us, we had a lot of games on the console to play.

[bold burrow]

Wow

So you’re the rich kid friend everyone had

[jade quartz]

Just spoiled rotten!

I actually remember how it went down. My grandma gave a lot of money to my parents, because she said that she wanted to see them enjoy it while she was still alive rather than waiting until years later as an inheritance. So my parents told me and my older brother and twin sister that we could each get something special with it. My brother got a used car since he just got his license. My sister got a new TV for her room. And I asked for a 3DO. Got it on launch day in 1993! It's a R•E•A•L memory for me!

[abstract mist]

I was in the Air Force at the time, and basically had 'disposable income'... so shortly after I bought my Model 1 Sega CD, I bought the 3DO as soon as it was released. Yeah, the $700 hurt, but I did have lots of fun with that console over the next couple of years.

The 3DO was pretty awesome at the time. This was after several years of Sega Genesis/CD and SNES... so yeah, it was pretty impressive compared to that.

They really missed the mark on those damn daisy-chained controllers though. That was a ridiculous multi-player solution.

The controllers weren't the best quality either. I remember needing to back off the screws on the back of the controller just a tad to get the D-pad to register diagonals properly for some reason. Never realized it was an issue until I got Super Street Fighter II Turbo.

[jaunty yacht]

“Friend” - people knew him, that’s all

The 3DO arguments are good, if only because it allowed me to get a list of recommendations for games to try when a core is inevitably released

[bold burrow]

I missed the whole thing, I just saw a lot of back and forth and scrolled through it lol

Then I saw moondandy chime in and knew it was in good hands

[oak basalt]

I think if people are investigating the 3DO because of it's possibility to be a MiSTer core it's ok to be critical. Just blowing sunshine and rainbows about a console isn't super constructive either. Just keep it civil and a discussion with opinions as opinions and facts as facts.

Show respect is all I'm thinking.

[proven basin]

Not going to happen the Channel is to discuss the 3DO bad and good not to worship it

[proven basin]

Nothing said was offensive to anyone or attacking anyone. Its opinion

[lusty crypt]

[abstract mist]

That's not for you to decide...

[kind hatch]

Admit that Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels is not a port! Admit it!!!

The later ports of Space Hulk: VoBA for the pc, ps1 and whatever else were missing sound effects that left the atmosphere of the game feeling flat.

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-can-you-deal-with-that-trash-talk-mad-gif-11640535

[proven basin]

You said Space Hulk which was a PC game. You didnt say Space Hulk Vengenance of the Blood Angels

Yep that game wasnt a port. My point still stands the Library is thin and has a lot of ports

I am never going to like the 3DO. It cost me a substantial ammount of money and was a disapointment. I didnt find any good games on it and still hold that view.

A core if developed will just allow others to see. This channel isnt for fan boying about how great a machine it was. Its for discussing it in all its good points and bad points. If its truely as good as you think then you should be secure in your opinion

[kind hatch]

Oh so you meant the non existent port of the pc game Space Hulk is a port?

[proven basin]

Space Hulk is a PC game

[kind hatch]

I see

But you said it was a port on 3DO

Hmmmmm?

[proven basin]

No the original game Space Hulk was for a PC. You then added a subtitle to the game

which as I have stated above wasnt a port

its important to list the full titles as games often can be confused

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Hulk_(1993_video_game)

a Pc video game from 1993

[kind hatch]

I thought you'd be familiar seeing as how you owned a 3DO an all

[proven basin]

I dont think there is any one who knows every title

[kind hatch]

You don't seem to know many

[proven basin]

I purchased mine was disapointed by it and abandoned it within 6 months.

[kind hatch]

When's you get it?

[proven basin]

at Uk Launch

[kind hatch]

What games you have?

[proven basin]

Very few

[kind hatch]

Take ur time

What games?

[proven basin]

I am not taking part in this. I have the console I dont like it

[kind hatch]

Gotcha!

[proven basin]

You do seem an exciteable fellow

Ok you got me I secretly dont have one. Just dont tell anyone

I keep it next to my non existent Amigas, My C64s, My Zx81, BBC B , Electrons Xboxes

[kind hatch]

My information bout the 3DO comes from inside my own brain

[lusty crypt]

This really takes me back to the schoolyard 🤣

[proven basin]

It really does.

[abstract mist]

sigh...

[bold burrow]

3DO is for cool people only, sorry @proven basin

[proven basin]

gosh that must be why I hate it so

[kind hatch]

You do realise that this conversation leads to us all becoming best Internet buddies for life? Right?

[bold burrow]

now I’m jealous 🥺

[proven basin]

I have no issue with you. You just amuse me

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-jj-gif-25980969

[oak basalt]

I'm looking forward to messing with a core for the crap bad but good games like Demolition Man or Way of the Warrior. Seeing as how most of the good games on this system are better on other systems I'm not sure what else I'd play but it would be fun to explore lesser known stuff.

I guess better may be subjective depending on what game and what you cared about in that game. Like music in Road Rash for example is still best on the 3DO version but the Saturn version runs better.

[bold burrow]

One person’s good game is another person’s bad game and vice versa. People genuinely enjoy the 3DO and that’s really cool.

A 3DO core will probably bring in a bunch of new fans too!

[abstract mist]

The 3DO simply did not age well (for many reasons). Too many tend to forget or overlook what the console was like when it first came out. This was during a time when the Genesis and SNES reigned supreme for years. It showed promise... initially. There were a handful of titles that were very well regarded on the console at the time.
For example, the early '90s was pretty much the height of the Street Fighter craze, and everyone wanted the best version of the arcade experience at home.
Super Street Fighter II Turbo was exactly that... for a little while, at least.

[scenic kite]

I owned a 3DO also. I bought it right as it was being phased out, ironically at a Wal-Mart in upstate New York. This was around late 97, early 98. Got the system for $99, and several several games for 5-10 apieces. I have very very fond memories of playing Star Control II and Return Fire. I kept it for several years. In many ways, I regret selling it, but retro prices were high, the drive was becoming unstable and I didn't have the skill (at the time) to properly fix it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you like what you like. I can certainly see that if someone bought the system new at launch, at full price, they probably wouldn't have been happy with the lineup and would move on. But if you got the system later when more was released and you didn't have the sour taste of the high price, you could quite enjoy the sizeable library. I think a 3DO core would allow you to see both perspectives, how it wasn't really worth the high initial price (given the competing options).... but how if you judge it solely on the merit of released games, its a good system and much fun can be had.

[bold burrow]

Oh shit, Star Control II for the 3DO is amazing isn’t it? I played the fan made PC port and loved it.

[scenic kite]

Yes, and the 3DO version is often preferred because of the voiceovers and music. It's pure art.

[abstract mist]

Ultimately, yes, I was disappointed with the system in the long run... actually, not that long, since the PlayStation, Saturn, and N64 were right around the corner, and the 3DO was seeing massive price reductions only a year into its life.
Spending $700 then finding out that I could have waited a year and got one for a fraction of that didn't exactly feel great... but oh well.

[oak basalt]

That's technology for you.

[abstract mist]

The whole 3DO ecosystem and business model certainly had its issues, but it wasn't a complete shit system.
It was just a failed Trip Hawkins experiment (not his first, and wouldn't be his last)... but there were some good times to be had early on.

[bold burrow]

So you’re saying Nintendo copied 3DO with the 3DS?

Trip Hawkins is a failed Trip Hawkins experiment lol

[abstract mist]

Although, I have caught myself wondering over the years to what extent I'm just making excuses for the system to justify the price I paid for it to make myself feel better. 😉

[abstract mist]

Not to the extent of someone like Peter Molyneux.
At least Trip Hawkins produced results. 😏

[bold burrow]

[oak basalt]

Poor deluded Peter.

[unique moat]

Best version of Wolfenstein.

[oak basalt]

Better than the PC?

[unique moat]

Generally considered to be. I played a bit on mine a few months back and was tasty.

[oak basalt]

I've heard good things about the Jaguar version too. But I've never been a big Wolfenstein guy so

[lusty crypt]

Interplay did a great job with that “remaster” of Wolf. Ended up on 3DO, Mac, and Jaguar

3DO and Mac got the full treatment.

[bold burrow]

[main crystal]

M E G A R A C E

[jade quartz]

Why do we have more versions of this emoji!?

Where's slowpoke!?

The fans ||me|| demand slowpoke!

[bold burrow]

Fine

Slowpoke

But I’m out furniture shopping for my daughter’s room right now so I can’t do it

[jade quartz]

Your daughter can wait! Priorities!

[finite anchor]

What about a 3DO logo emoji?

[bold burrow]

Gotta be a real core first

[finite anchor]

“ Not going to happen “

[bold burrow]

I think it will, honestly

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-inevitable-marvel-avengers-endgame-gif-14599588

3DO core

[finite anchor]

Yeah hopefully, I’m just messing around 🤭

[jade quartz]

Need to correct you on this one. You should have said "Gotta be a R•E•A•L core first"!

Okay, I'm good now. I've used up my GIF quota for the next month!

[oak dune]

I would really like to play Super Wing Commander with no speed issues

[oak dune]

Also Dr. Hauzer, even if the game benefits from overclocking the CPU

[bold burrow]

Is the game good?

[oak dune]

It's a very unique horror game where it's not the monsters, it's the traps that get you

[raw loom]

Dr. Hauzer is rough around the edges (largely due to being an early fully 3D title on hardware that wasn’t quite powerful enough to handle it), but you can see how it was quite influential on later survival horror games.

[reef copper]

That was 1 of my favorite games on the 3do

[raw dove]

Rochester strong museum of play

[main crystal]

is that an arcade stick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

oh no, it's just my 3DO fight pad

[lusty crypt]

I’ve been thinking about it, and the 3DO is just the worst…

…at being boring

[bold burrow]

It’s a cool looking system

[raw dove]

I actually own an fz 1... And it is honestly my favorite LOOKING system

It just looks classy

Like 90s 80s classy
... But a man on 80$ Wall Street def did coke off the top of this thing while wearing all white on a white sofa listening to Huey Lewis and the news

Now.... Imma ask AI to write fan fiction where Patrick Bateman somehow gets ahold of Marty and docs Delorean

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mSsmEG2lmyjb-svmBNl2eBTDOxZL93JpcM1LU053wOc/edit?usp=drivesdk

Tangent over.... Back to 3DO

[main crystal]

All tangents serve the 3DO

[white narwhal]

Only weirdos own the FZ-21

Plus that case is lame

All the cool kids leave it next to a Wii U 🤣

And apparently a sticker from a jumper pack

[lusty crypt]

FZ-10 crew over here. 🤘

The poor kid 3DO

[abstract mist]

Only two FZ-1 models... my original, and the one my brother had that he gave me.

[raw dove]

Weirdos....and apparently museums..... There is no spectrum...only those two groups

Lol

[raw dove]

Ps.... The Patrick Bateman , Delorean 3DO story isn't actually that bad lol

[jade sleet]

What the fuck happened here on the 3rd, Jesus Christ

[jade quartz]

happened.

[jade sleet]

Road Rash 32bit (Blood of the Couriers) was definitely a sequel lol

[jade quartz]

Yep. To imply that it was a port was just factually wrong.

It would be like saying Mario Kart 64 is a port of Super Mario Kart because it involves Mario and friends racing in karts on tracks.

[jade sleet]

3do always getting panties in a twist

Poor bloke

[polar flower]

Super Mario World is my favorite port of Super Mario Bros 2

[jade sleet]

Anyway, MK2 is almost ready for public beta release

https://youtu.be/QmbhFRao-ok?si=iYslxb5MYwaDTFMU

[jade sleet]

TRVE!

[bold burrow]

YOU WEREN’T HERE TO DEFEND US

THEY RAIDED OUR VILLAGE

[main crystal]

your ancient greece is showing

[bold burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/peasants-monty-python-gif-24070330

[main crystal]

Right now, the developer who will eventually write the 3DO core is probably hacking away at something completely unrelated, not knowing their destiny, and how they will save us

[jade sleet]

I'm sorry. I sensed a disturbance in the force, but the dark side clouded my vision

[abstract mist]

Robby didn't do his job.
That's what happened! 😏

[lusty crypt]

We will rebuild.

[bold burrow]

I was sleeping lol

I think

[jade quartz]

You were shopping for your daughter and never created slowpoke emoji! You're earning the title of slowpoke!

[bold burrow]

Oh yeah that

[jade sleet]

They're typically easily repaired and fleabay is like, 1 of 50 million places to sell it. Find someone willing to buy it as is instead of trashing it. Taiji mods, a 3do enthusiast who is located in the UK would probably be interested. I know this is like, a 4 day old topic. But tossing it seems a bit absurd. I wouldn't send a speccy to the curb just Cause its not fun or has a bad tape head

[bold burrow]

I heard the 3DO may have committed war crimes

[lusty crypt]

You are an agent of chaos.

[proven basin]

Its not being tossed because its no fun or has a broken anything. Its being discarded due to a potential move and a need to

reduce my stuff

I cant be bothered to deal with people and the shipping

[reef copper]

I was looking around at cast for games and happened onto the guy in Need for Speed on 3do. His real name is Brenan Baird. Didnt know he died from cancer.

[kind hatch]

Rest in peace Brenan Baird. Probably waxed everybody in heavens ass by now.

[reef copper]

He probably raced someone to get in heaven .lol

[jade sleet]

You have zero second hand shops to donate something to?

[bold burrow]

I heard the 3DO may have kicked a few puppies.

[jade quartz]

Many a puppy were harmed in the 3DO's wake.

[abstract mist]

Somewhere along the way, the 3DO got 'Tripped' up...

🦗

...

[oak dune]

Hawk just flew by

[finite anchor]

Hey @waxen violet I didn’t know you made the lynx core until recently, apparently it shares similarities with 3DO

[abstract mist]

R.J. Mical, Dave Morse, and Dave Needle have/had a long history together. They co-founded Amiga and co-designed/developed the first several models and operating systems.
They were then involved with co-creating what eventually became the Atari Lynx.
Then they were involved with co-creating the hardware that would become the base of the 3DO when their startup company (NTG) merged with The 3DO Company.
Their DNA is present in all of them, therefore similarities are not surprising.

[jade sleet]

Yepp. Lynx graphic format is SCOB, 3DO Cel is CCOB. Lynx is essentially a 16bit 3do. Would have rather seen the hardware scaled up slightly and made into a 16 bit home console. Could have produced some pretty good looking and unique graphics

https://youtu.be/xI0t65uQykU?si=ZTJmzuMhe5XbiE1B

Lynx was quite the handheld, doing some crazy effects on slimeworld

https://youtu.be/-E0l6iqer2s?si=QohJdNxRXlHuzFEf

[unique edge]

Super Wing Commander only exists on 3DO and Macintosh and none of the Mac emulators support joystick.

I started hacking on Basilisk 2 trying to give it joystick support but I was only able to get a single button mouse mapped to the joystick.

Never figured out howto make a multi-button mouse in Mac OS Classic. (old Macs supported an 8-button mouse, it was how they did Joysticks)

[oak dune]

Even with keyboard SWC only ran at clown speeds on any Mac emu

Me playing SWC on Basilisk II

[oak dune]

for what it's worth Phoenix did allow me to use joystick on 3DO and it worked mostly fine

ow

look up "Phoenix Emulator + English Patch" and you'll find it

[unique edge]

I had SWC running at a reasonable speed, not stupid fast and not too slow either.

[oak dune]

I could never figure out how to adjust speeds

[unique edge]

GPU resolution in Mac OS adjusted the rendering performance

higher resolutions ran slower iirc

[oak dune]

I think I tried that and the game did not let me through but that was a while ago

[unique edge]

The other option was sheepshaver

it shares sourcecode with Basilisk II for input, but ran worse haha

PPC vs M68K CPU

I'd love it if we got an M68040LC Core, don't need an FPU for SWC/Mac OS 8.1

3DO would be better tho

[vagrant glacier]

does anyone know someone who could recap my 3do fz-10

[main crystal]

Retro Six? https://retrosix.us/products/panasonic-real-3do-fz-1-repair-service

[vagrant glacier]

thanks

[jade sleet]

https://youtu.be/qk0Rld083N4?si=Qkh_eP-BhRhuDZ_m

[lusty crypt]

Oh wow!

[bold burrow]

Yeah, it’s really neat how well it runs and he’s using a doom editor to make maps.

[jade sleet]

Well, a modified doom editor

The maps are much simpler in form

Here is two doom-like structures for a room he recreated from E1M1 in his engine

[devout inlet]

Oh hey I work across the river from there 😂

[fierce seal]

3DO core on the way by SRG320

https://youtu.be/rEoBPgfd17M?feature=shared

Wtf hahahaha

[jade quartz]

Mother flipp'n WHAT!?!?!?!?

@white narwhal

[white narwhal]

I KNOW

working on video as of now

SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST BABY

[jade quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-gif-23353691

You know what this means @bold burrow !? 3DO emoji time!

[scenic kite]

Came here to post the link and was already beaten to it. All hail srg320!!!!

In his 'free time'..... https://x.com/srg320_/status/1879611087701889034

Sergiy Dvodnenko (@srg320_) on X

For the last two years when I have free time I've been developing the 3DO core. Finally I have some visual result. There is still a lot of work to be done on sprite engine and dsp. So far only a few 2D games (with rectangular sprites) work. https://t.co/cxU1ghtjIY

Twitter · Jan 15, 2025, 7:26 PM

[final epoch]

amazing , this is really happening ?

[jade quartz]

With the Saturn core in the final stretch, I would assume he'll start working on 3DO more?

[final epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/proud-touched-tears-crying-man-gif-5608453

[kind hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-head-explode-amazing-shocking-wow-gif-19681784

[olive oak]

groan

okay well, I guess there's that

[jaunty yacht]

Woah! That was unexpected! Looks like it’s reasonably far along based on the video

“So far only a few 2D games (with rectangular sprites) work”

Ah, okay. Still impressive though!

[devout inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-break-gif-8337997201999083820

[jaunty yacht]

Feels like the latest stable build is v1.0 really

[lusty crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/we-survived-licisca-the-decameron-we-made-it-we-managed-to-survive-gif-11905537650767980049

[finite anchor]

3DO woooow i cant believe it!

[oak dune]

I am very stoked for this

[jade quartz]

Now we can migrate over to the new thread. No longer just mister-related!

[finite anchor]

so we will get a new 3do emoji?

[jaunty yacht]

Looks like I better start collecting some 3DO and Jaguar games for my MiSTer…

[jaunty yacht]

@white narwhal, what are the essentials?

[reef dune]

[jaunty yacht]

Oh, and some CDI games too

[proven basin]

I can give you a list its very very short

[jaunty yacht]

Sure, but I know you’re not its biggest fan 😉

[proven basin]

well soon you can experience its direness yourself. SRG is a mad man, Spare time core whilst doing a saturn core in a war zone

[jaunty yacht]

He’s an absolute wizard

[proven basin]

Remember 3DO fans he has a Patreon

https://www.patreon.com/srg320

[white narwhal]

just be happy we are happy 🙂

[unique moat]

Incredible. I did think this might well be his next project as Saturn winds down.

[main crystal]

FYI, get in before it fills up https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/1329170138234097745

[unique moat]

Hopefully he can pull it off with the over specced ram it has

[lusty crypt]

I doubt we’re going to have N64 level crowds 🤣