#Arcades - Shooting Cores

You could also just turn off the coin-op collection from update all too.

I had it turned off for awhile, but ran it again for Turtles in Time the other night. Then just rolled back to the previous Raizing cores.

So there will eventually be a fix?

I can't predict the future

I'm just saying update_all/downloader won't overwrite files if you replace them unless there is a new release

I assume they will fix it but I have no actual confirmation of that

OK, thanks.

The CoinOps collection has nothing at all to do with MiSTer and no one there has any affiliation with the MiSTer project. So you are on your own with those for the most part.

I'm assuming you guys have put in trouble tickets on their github or whatever?

Is this for the mmatrix in the arcade folder or is it somewhere in the subfolders?

its in the alternates folder

no, Arcade Offset

yes, sorry, i was confusing it with something else

2 less frames of lag is nice, but really the big hitters here are auto-cannon and ABC+Start reset

every arcade game needs ABC+Start reset

Great, thank you, I found it now. It was confusing because there are versions in "alternatives" too.

yeah, that was my bad - sorry. I was thinking phoenix not trap15

No, not your fault, I was looking there before and did not know which was the low lag version

hey so uh the batrider core is fucked

even with invincible dip switch off in the core menu - the start button does the pause slow thing

known issue?

Did you run update all recently?

weeeird

5 minutes before

that video

First of all, skill issue SureSure

Second, they did like a whole rewrite of those, I believe, and it's been a bit messy of a release

Some people have rolled back

yeah, the rollback cores/mras are pinned

I've been too cautious to run update all with coin op on until I hear improvements

just disable the repository

it's one of the options in update_all

sure sure got it, I figured I'd at least mention the issue

you could also have an old core config file and it's activating some stuff you can't see

I think something similar happened to me with garegga before I nuked the old config

Noted lemme try that,ty

can't seem to find a general arcade topic so.. Bombjack, the core that downloads with Uall is from 2024 but I can see that Mister-db9 has a fork that is far more up to date than that, fixing gfx errors and what not. Why is that not the one that's downloaded?

Because it’s db9 and that’s not part of MiSTer

ok, so theres not really a way of making sure I am getting the best out of mister by just relying on Update all then?

I imagine there is a way to add the DB-9 repository to downloader

I was just looking for a link to that..

every day is a learning day for me ha

oh wait, there is an option in update all

https://github.com/antoniovillena/MiSTer_DB9/blob/main/db9-user-io-and-snac8.md

ooh right, i see that, never occurred to me that 'DB9' was a thing and not just a dev. wonder why the gfx fixes haven't made their way back to the official core

Thanks guys

You get the best by using update_all. Everything else is unofficial.

Actually most on update_all is unofficial.

but Jotego does great work

You would have to ask whoever did the update why they didn't submit it to the original core

Yeah basically.

right got you

was just wondering thats all

no no, sorry if that came off as curt. they didn't submit a PR to the main Bombjack core, only the DB9 core.

it is a sorg core, so maybe they were scared :p

not curt at all, im not sure what the history of Sorg is though. sounds like someone not to mess with

he is the maintainer of the mister project 🙂

people get upset because he tells them no to their ridiculous ideas

how dare u

that much I know 😊

so he’s built up this aura of being difficult to work with when in fact it’s the opposite, dude is friendly as hell and always open to suggestions.

But if your suggestion is dumb he says no

And a lot of nerds have a lot of dumb ideas

and a a lot of nerds are very sensitive souls

I JUST WANT TO NEST INIs WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

no, but seriously, every interaction I have had with him has been very pleasant.

To be clear he’s told me no, but I’m like damn ok and move on lol

ha thats fair enough

that DB9 core isn't ahead of mister release nor can I see any fixes it has that aren't part of upstream

You mean sorg is the original aura farmer?

Following back on this (BatriderJ) - I deleted

config files from config folder
dip files from dip folder
controller settings from input folder

still the same behavior

new core is just fucked

ty @dawn moat gonna hit dat ROLLBACK

(pinged the wrong jesus oops)

Yeah, let me know if that fixes it. I have not seen that behavior with the new core, but if you deleted everything then I have no idea what is going on

you've tried it yourself?

holding start?

just confirming

not doubting

cuz then I feel like its a setup issue on my end if its not happening for you

I'd test but I'd have to swap misters

I'll load it up right now, hold on

@dawn moat the rollback worked splendid

ty ty we back in batbusiness

I just tested nevermind

turn off 'special'

what is special anyways

also that was it?

Game settings -> Version -> 'Normal'

no I know I saw it there but didnt touch it lol

If I hold start it goes slow, but speeds up as soon let go

yes this is not correct

but zakk solved it

its the special flag

guess I'll update all again smh

so that behavior should only be true if hte invincible dip is turned on

iirc

sorry, I thought from your video it was getting stuck

no it was doing exactly as your video which is shit

because im trying to hold start and tap A to get the next auto fire rate

and to change bullets

goooot it - my bad, sorry duder

(colors)

nah you're good

anyone who actually plays batrider would have noticed this immediately

and been like "wtf I cant change autofire rate"

also "wtf is up with this pause"

also I saw the garegga "zakk" mra in there

yeah, I dunno what exactly that setting changes

I know some games have "special versions" ? I guess? I dont know

does your mra work with the new shit?

Garegga Zakk Edition?

Battle Zakkegga

I think it should, if not I have a working version around here somewhere

time to update all yet again and revert what I reverted back to the unreverted state lmao

ty for your help Zakk

guess I should have tried flipping that, oops

@vestal wagon to use your MRA do I have to patch the rom per your github

https://github.com/zakk4223/battle-garegga-patches

I dunno why im asking I dunno why I'd want to play garegga without pink bullets

no, the mra has the patches in it

okay sick

very impressive

set dip switch 1 to on. I think maybe the core has that already set but make sure.

understood I'm actually booting it up now to see how it goes

I think I need to edit the MRA

for the new core

it aint bootin

lemme see if I can do it myself

k works

I did this @vestal wagon

look at the big brain on brad

I assume this is all I need to do

well I dont know if I didnt break anything...

wait dip 1? test mode?

@vestal wagon is this supposed to be on?

assuming I didnt fuck everything up this is the edited mra

oh sorry

I meant 'stage edit' dip

turn that on and reset

got it

prosecuted fullest extent of the jam is that your doing 😛

yes, expect visitors soon

is there supposed to be an unmarked black van with armored people in my drive way?

classic typo that lasted several cave games

yes now it for sure works

https://github.com/MiSTer-DB9/Arcade-BombJack_MiSTer/blob/49dc91815cc8ca6e5217131bb3bda754fe678f44/releases/Arcade-BombJack_20250227.rbf. The bombjack title screen is fixed compared to the mister core. Also the mister core has an issue for that mentioned still open, the DB9 core is 50 or so commits ahead

it's not. github says that because they commit things related to their db9 code and/or automation

Still the title screen is fixed compared to the mister one. But whatever, it'll get fixed on the official core at some point maybe

what's wrong in the title screen

Half way down the bombjack logo it is misaligned

Ok so.. well here's the thing. Both cores have the issue but it's miss aligned when it's in hori orientation and normal and correct when it's in vert mode. So ignore me with the DB9 stuff that's me juggling two orientations

so as i understand it, the cave 68k core is being updated by translating it to verilog and continuing from there. is this why it's unstable?

I wasn't aware the cave 68k core was unstable

the current cave 68k core is written in chisel which generates verilog.

I suspect you are mixing it up with the raizing core

maybe I am!

they did release something based on the current cave core, which was mazinger Z. which as far as I know isn't unstable but I haven't kept up/tried it much

Mazinger is patreon only at the moment I believe. But it's coming to update all in a week or so

but yeah, I think they are planning on releasing other cave stuff? no idea. They had a roadmap but, in roadmap fashion, they haven't followed it exactly

there's still some games that the existing cave core doesn't cover. air gallet, the sailor moon game, I can't remember the others

I know they were working on sailor moon

there was video of that iirc

it's basically the same as air gallet

higher clocked z80 and the more complicated two way communication between the main and sound cpus

holy shit Junbo Godzilla get on this now

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