Sega Mega Drive/CD/32X

[plain quiver]

And all calls on the game were patched on-the-fly inside the emulator core to redirect them to the MP3 files and MP3 decoder.

[vital idol]

Was that the secret sauce of the release, then? As I said, I haven’t dug too deeply, just trying to figure out what changed from the original “dump”

[plucky flare]

they hacked the emulators to play it, that's what the secret sauce is

[plain quiver]

We have those dumps since at least 4 years, just no technical means to read them before.

[vital idol]

Right, pretty sure a prominent member of the mister community was working on that at least originally 😆

So does that mean that everything is decrypted now?

[plain quiver]

The dump of the original sound chip is missing.

[glass shale]

Wondering what @narrow jasper had to do with all this Paprium on RetroArch thing 🤔

[distant sage]

well it m ight not be mister but at least it looks decent-ish in my steam library

will do for now

[drowsy halo]

So is this game made by a scammer any good?

[snow knot]

It’s really good

[elder briar]

i've heard it's "good"

will have to load up retroarch and see i guess

[snow knot]

It’s maybe a bit repetitive but most brawlers kinda are.

For a genesis game it’s pretty amazing imo. Gonna wait till it comes to mister to give it a really good go. I want to play on my CRT

[drowsy halo]

Cool. Maybe Fonzie will make more good games in the future too.

I'm ready to back the Kickstarter

[snow knot]

Those would be happy days

[pine crystal]

If people haven't learned their lesson with the Paprium Kickstarter campaign, they deserve what they (don't) get with the next one.

If only people could stop rewarding bad behavior...

[ebon quail]

Heard Paprium finally got cracked hopefully this leads to the game working on MiSTer!

[clear needle]

Like @plain quiver said, I had an earlier version. I have the newer version now. I might do a live stream later today after work. I like the game, I felt it could have had more moves.

[warm carbon]

https://tenor.com/Wdor.gif

[snow knot]

if you see this shit on the poster in the police station it means the game is gonna freeze. crazy piracy protection by fonzie

[clear needle]

Lol, that's funny.

[snow knot]

then sega bans ur genesis from sega online

[pine crystal]

Ain't that some shit...

[fallow dome]

Yeah that’s what I’ve been wondering. Is the actual game good or are people just talking about it because of the drama?

Sounds like both!

[fallow dome]

It sucks that Kickstarter got turned from a really cool, preorder campaign idea to a scam artist’s playground.

[plain spear]

Patiently waiting for Paprium core LUL

[bright pivot]

"Mode VI EXPS-on" I made a code on pause screen then this logo appear, any ideae of what it is?

[drowsy halo]

I was making a joke. I'm not actually going to back a kickstarter for a scammer.

[bright pivot]

Remember that rom still miss lot of functions like mega cd ai, arcade mod and all dipswitchs stuffs also megawire 4.0 support

[glass shale]

There’s a new release from yesterday

[bright pivot]

yep v.2.0

but it's a core revision

made with the same source code

[drowsy halo]

What is mega cd ai?

[plain quiver]

The Mega CD CPU could be used for a simulation of a second player playing with you.

[glass shale]

Mega CD Ai Caramba!

[pine crystal]

It was something only used by the Sega CD version of The Terminator.

[drowsy halo]

Ah okay thanks. And apparently paprium

[pine crystal]

That was a joke as well, by the way. I have no clue. 😄

[warm carbon]

Are the nukeykt fixes new? or just a new implementation by cray?

(kind of like a "story based on the novel by stephen king" situation)

[warm carbon]

Can folks (esp @ivory shale and @gritty tide ) test this core? I'd like to get it in the repo so we can put the sound issue to bed (for now). I needed to rebuild the core because Sorg updated the SYS on the repo (and the other test build I posted is from before that).

I didn't hear anything with headphones on Keio, Shadow of the Beast, or Sonic

[ivory shale]

I know this is rather late to the party, but it's an emulator that is apparently used for speedrunning. I hear it's supposed to be pretty accurate.

[jade turret]

Bizhawk is a multi system emulator like Retroarch, running mednafen cores etc. It's got a bunch of TAS functions which is why speedrunners use it, that's the reason to use it over anything else.

[ivory shale]

Just tried Keio, Shadow of the Beast 2, and Popful Mail in it. Night-and-day difference from the original core, though I am not sure if it sounds better than the previous two audio fix ones. I think audio sounded slightly worse/more crackly than before but I am not certain. I also decided to try Keio in software emulators and it sounded significantly better than any of the SegaCD cores over either analog or HDMI. There was no crackling at all and this hissing that was in the background was not present (Or maybe just much harder to hear).

[warm carbon]

that could also be the port/connector/1000 other factors. I think ricardo is still doing more in depth tests - this is just to stop the bleeding. It shouldn't sound any better than the other fixes - it's just a new build so I wanted to make sure it was ok 🙂 Thanks for looking at it!

[ivory shale]

No problem, thanks for working on this. It's not clear to me if over HDMI if the old and new core sound the same or if there is slight crackling, I feel like I have heard this intro so much that I can't even tell the difference anymore. But yeah, for all I know it could be somethign with my setup at this point for small stuff like that.

[bright pivot]

While paused: Up-A-Up-A-Up-A

a sound validate the code

[plain quiver]

"EXPS-VI" for Extended Sprite Mode VI over 80 sprites on-screen without flicker

[bright pivot]

thanks

[bright pivot]

and 32x content

[bright pivot]

funny that we have to activate it

[plain quiver]

Another strange idea from Fonzie.

[cursive sedge]

So, is it possible to imagine that in a short time there will be a core that could run Paprium? I'd love to test it on my CRT.

[plain quiver]

No.

[cursive sedge]

Okay, time to moderate my expectations.

[vestal otter]

game include mp3 tracks, only when mega cd will works in one day

[plain quiver]

The game is working with a hacky way (injection & bypass) + uses a small MP3 decoder that we don't have on MiSTer.

[faint onyx]

Very mediorce gameplay anyway, compared to SoR II.

[spring lantern]

Wonder if the Groovy fork of Retroarch would work

https://github.com/psakhis/Groovy_MiSTer/tree/main

[heady harness]

I don't have the time or talent, but it would be awesome if someone compiled the Groovy fork of Retroarch with the Paprium specific changes to run on the DE-10 nano and display on Groovy. Be more self contained that way.

[finite rapids]

It’s not good

[fading hare]

If you were Robby right now, you'd follow that up with "It's great!" in about 5 minutes.

[warm carbon]

Yeah but this is bacon so the forecast calls for a high chance of “but better than your mom”

[gritty tide]

No problems here. Audio is clean with vga_mode=rgb on the usual tests

[torn dome]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydMLculJDIc&t=1227s&pp=ygUHcGFwcml1bQ%3D%3D

[split stratus]

He’s referring to this commit https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MegaDrive_MiSTer/commit/ac052cd6d842d2ccf7ced1960126bb33e364fdb8

not sure why I’m credited as these are just quick copies over from Nuked MD FPGA, but I’ll take it :^)

[warm carbon]

@gritty tide @ivory shale Sorry to bug you guys again but I hadn’t realized we had an unstable with the updated sys (basically the same thing I shared yesterday). Do you mind testing this one last build: https://github.com/MiSTer-unstable-nightlies/MegaCD_MiSTer/releases/download/unstable-builds/MegaCD_unstable_20250703_077d86.rbf

[warm carbon]

thats what i figured was happening. “written by Cray based on the story by nukeykt”

[plain spear]

WOOO Got it running! (on retroarch)

[manic ridge]

So what's this cartridge fix on the change log?

[split stratus]

It’s a fix related to the internal emulated cartridge https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MegaDrive_MiSTer/commit/36f24a8af55f6076156d392a7441ee2d9ade87b6

Basically the cart select and cart read signals were assumed to become high at the exact same time

But sometimes cart select comes in a bit late, this caused the sdram to not be read for that cycle

This caused the crash in Bishoujo Super Street Fighter II: Glamor Queen

It’s strange we didn’t find more games affected though, it seems like a rather critical error

Was great that Paulb-nl spotted and fixed it

[manic ridge]

Oh okay thank you for the explanation

[gritty tide]

No problem, always happy to test anything. I didn't experience issues again, I think we may have fixed this finally

[glass shale]

Just learned that the second Paprium kickstarter was also a scam 🤣

I wonder what makes people fall for not only one scam, but TWO scam campaigns

I wonder if the mustache bastard throws out a third KS campaign the same people would back him?

[fallow dome]

I shouldn’t comment but I’d like to believe there was a genuine attempt to deliver. But I’m also a naive optimist lol.

[plucky flare]

this time for sure!

[manic ridge]

More like optimist deez nuts

[void eagle]

I wish he didn't use the name Fonzie. It's an insult to Happy Days and the original Fonzie.

[velvet mural]

Yeah, shoulda been Fozzie. Wokka wokka wokka....

[ebon quail]

I think so too. Less cause of me wanting to be optimistic and more cause I can see that the guy is talented coding wise, he's just very... perfectionist (I think that's the right word to use?) to an absurd degree that it starts effecting the project as a whole.

[drowsy halo]

I'm ready! 💸 💸 💸

[ivory shale]

Sorry for the delay. Sounds just like the previous test core to me.

[teal roost]

Anyone get that Hybrid Front translation working? Runs fine for me in genesis plus gx but on mister I'm getting

[faint onyx]

Just tried it. No issues here with the latest Mega Drive core. Can't open your attached file.

[blissful lagoon]

I believe it needs the region to be set to Japan

[teal roost]

this worked, thanks! didn't occur to me to futz with the region because it was popping some command line stuff that looked more like the patching process had gone wrong

[faint onyx]

Strangely it works fine with EU region set. Japan is fine, but US gives this cryptic error message.

[bright pivot]

I don't understand why people still try to play retroarch on mister...

[plucky flare]

I think maybe it would a better experience if they ran the video through groovymister core

[heady harness]

If someone would build this, I'd happily test 🙂

[warm carbon]

zakk is busy fixing 240p>480i transitions

please don't disturb him

[glass shale]

What’s Robby doing

[drowsy hemlock]

Being lazy. He is a dev, after all

[glass shale]

Didn’t know he’s a dev

Core dev?

Pi core?

[plucky flare]

ChannelPin.rbf

[drowsy hemlock]

Chief Micro-transaction Engineer

[fallow dome]

I can’t be specific but I attended a presentation from an economist on a popular MMO and it was depressing.

[drowsy hemlock]

I’ve seen mythic quest 😅

[fallow dome]

I haven’t seen that show but it was depressing for me on how the guy discussed how best to manipulate people into spending all their money with zero remorse.

[drowsy hemlock]

Micro-transactions seem to have died down in console games, haven’t they? Or am I just imagining it/have normalised it?

[fallow dome]

They’re normalized.

[drowsy hemlock]

I can imagine

[drowsy hemlock]

I dunno. Maybe they’re more subtle than a few years ago

Also I never really play free to play games (with one exception, rarely)

As soon as a game goes ftp it turns me off it

And if it’s always been that way….

[fallow dome]

I am not a fan of that business model for personal reasons so I avoid F2P games. I don’t want to discuss the ethics of it or the responsibility one should bear for their own poor choices, I’ve done that countless times.

That wasn’t directed at you, sorry. Just a blanket statement.

[drowsy hemlock]

I just know that any F2P game will end up being a deliberate massive time drain to push you towards paying to win or whatever

That just feels like bad (purposeful) design

So I’m with you

(Fall guys in the exception, and my character looks boring cos I haven’t unlocked costumes)

[vital idol]

The steam sale showed me the microtransaction nonsense is still in full force. Clicked on quite a few thing to find either 2 or 3 different “packages” or the 30 small things that they contain.

And it is really frustrating because not a single page actually had a breakdown of what was included where.

[ebon quail]

Games that have pages on PCGW usually have a section that breaks down DLCs and special editions.

At the same time however, sometimes games make it way too confusing even with helpful sites like that.

[sage prairie]

companies hire psychologists that specialise in addiction, and create gameplay loops and mechanics that are specifically meant to get people addicted. It's pretty messed up.

[velvet mural]

Hired them away from the cigarette manufacturers, I guess.

[glass shale]

jotego paprium core wen https://github.com/mamedev/mame/pull/13939

[drowsy halo]

Maybe Fozzie will make us one

[glass shale]

There's some discussion going on here as well: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MegaDrive_MiSTer/issues/70

"Papirium"

[drowsy hemlock]

I can’t believe how mental everyone is going about playing Perineum

[vital idol]

Well, there were quite a few people going back to the original funding that payed for it and never got their copy.

[plain quiver]

Papirium is better.

[vital idol]

So, people are excited to at least see what they thought they funded rather than Fonzies cocaine habit

[faint onyx]

Most will be disappointed anyway. The enemies AI is a joke.

[vital idol]

That’s because you need the tower of power to fully experience paprium!

[faint onyx]

Preorder now, and get another Thong for free!

[elder briar]

don't think the game is worth the hype but anything to get people what they rightfully deserve is a win in my book

if the devs won't do it then someone will

[drowsy halo]

It's like Fozzie was hiding some kind of masterpiece. We should start a perenium 2 kickstarter scam.

[glass shale]

The ROMs required by the mame PR are already available:

Smallest file is 99.99% similar to the first 8K of the ROM used by GenPlusGX

The bigger file seems like the rest of the ROM encoded somehow

Those (or a combination of both) could be the ones used by the MiSTer core eventually

[plucky flare]

it's probably pcm data

maybe wavpak or something

also when talking about a mister core here, keep in mind the 'undumped' bit of this cart is apparently a stm32. so a 32 bit ARM cortex-M

[glass shale]

It looks like there's no sound at all in the mame PR:

[glass shale]

That's only if we need PCM audio. Figuring out FM audio and just ignore audio from the "Datenmeister" sounds like a good starting point

[distant sage]

good game or not paprium is a sight to behold. it's got an amazing look and imo it sounds great too. it's not top tier gameplay wise but ive enjoyed the hell out of plenty of turds that look worse and play just as average. not defending the devs but if the game isnt worth the hype it's at very least worth the curiosity

[pine crystal]

I think the main reason for the hype is that we shouldn't be able to play this game outside of the original cart, but here we are. It was inevitable, but still a noteworthy accomplishment worthy of attention... no matter how much the game itself didn't live up to that hype.

I certainly wouldn't place it on the same level as XOR file releases for CPS-2 almost 25 years ago, but still...

[frosty stone]

Incomplete without FPGA thong

[pine crystal]

The extent of my excitement was "Oh wow, it's playable now? Cool."
after a few hours of trying it out...
"Yeah... I'm going back to Streets of Rage 2."

[faint onyx]

This color palette, puh. Too much pink and purple.

[snow knot]

Do we have any talented seamstresses here that can recreate the thongs in preparation for an FPGA core being released? I’m guessing we will need mostly Large and XXL.

[distant sage]

Its probably what works most for me. Its got a vibe thats for sure. Different strokes for Different folks though

I love a good neon-drenched experience

[snow knot]

The game really pops in 2 player mode. Unless you have played it with a friend your missing the full experience

[fallow dome]

I imagine there’s a fair bit of seeking compensation fueling that too considering all the people burned by the kickstarter

[velvet mural]

It seems that a lot of people paid money for a game that they never received. I'm sure that they would like to finally be able to play it after all these years.

[warm carbon]

Yeah, I think people have been dying to stick it to fonzie

[velvet mural]

And those people should theoretically be within their rights to own a "backup copy"

And cynically, in order to press a copyright case against anyone else, Fonzie would have to come out of hiding - but if that were to happen, he would need to face the people he defrauded.

I'm not trying to justify a third party copying the game - I'm just laying out the logistics of what would happen.

[glass shale]

That's also my opinion on what's missing from that mame PR

[glass shale]

So it looks like FM sound won’t be so simple to implement 😔

[plucky flare]

also the mp3 version is literally just the OST from archive, lol

[glass shale]

CheaterLittleMan

[sharp river]

The native MD music sounds pretty good (to my ears). But I still play it using the DATENMEISTER.

I'm just glad I've been luck and received my copy of the game.

[drowsy halo]

What if Fozzie had changed his name and was here among us?

[ebon quail]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-hidino-it-could-be-you-it-coud-be-me-gif-23428091

[vital idol]

I have never seen Robby and Fonzie in the same room before!

[drowsy halo]

Is this a confession??

[plucky flare]

both names end in the same sound

DUN DUN

[warm carbon]

they both do like flexing..........................

[shut aspen]

he's also a. scandalous...

[drowsy hemlock]

I always thought there was something sketchy about that guy

[glass shale]

https://tenor.com/view/gunther-gunther-and-the-sunshine-girls-you-touch-my-tralala-tralala-ding-dong-song-gif-13464604

[fallow dome]

MY DING DING DONG

[worldly dust]

I wonder if there's even a tiny ounce of interest to implement a 480x464 resolution for the Mega Drive core

This crackheaded romhack of Dune II uses it

[elder briar]

that would have to be an interlaced resolution no

aren't those already supported? like in sonic 2 vs mode

[worldly dust]

If it's interlaced it sure isn't working

Hmmmmmm

[elder briar]

don't think the genesis would support 464p

[worldly dust]

I would foot forward in to readproof this for it

[elder briar]

you're on a vga monitor right? are you using the scandoubler? maybe it doesn't play nice with interlaced resolutions

[worldly dust]

For more be fine results

[worldly dust]

Yeah no, HDMI and regular CRT tv is the same

[elder briar]

weird

[worldly dust]

Guess it was coded for software emulators

[elder briar]

ah yeah that could be. some rom hacks are weird like that

i know sonic 2 advanced edit won't work on the core

[drowsy halo]

a rom hack just for software emulators. What a time to be alive.

[elder briar]

it was a lot more common before flash carts and fpga became mainstream

hell, a majority of sm64 hacks are still designed only for software emulators

[warm carbon]

Can anyone confirm if this happens on real megadrive hardware? Seeing it oh hdmi and analog. Latest core and unstable main (Another World (EU))

[faint onyx]

This happens (or something similar) when you try to force a native PAL game into 60Hz. I just tried my japanese MD1 and it shows the same flickering. On my PAL MD1 the game is fine in 50Hz, as it should. Tested on a CRT of course.

[warm carbon]

I shouldn't be forcing...though hrm

the CRT supports 50hz

[faint onyx]

Then you force it on the Mister side, wrong region set?

[warm carbon]

oh weird, it was set to JP. I wonder if that's why

[faint onyx]

Fact is, the game works fine on a PAL MD1 and a 50Hz capable CRT.

[faint onyx]

YES!

[warm carbon]

shouldn't it autodetect the region?

[faint onyx]

It should

[warm carbon]

wonder if the header of the file is bad

will auto detect if I set it to file extension

yeah, it's not auto detecting

is it auto detecting for you?

no, it's just this rom

nevermind, let me see if replacing it helps

[faint onyx]

I think the Mega Drive core needs to be set to EU manually.

Setting the Priority to EU>US>JP works though.

Then the game is detected as PAL rom

[warm carbon]

yes, I am seeing that now

very weird. do we think that is a bug

[faint onyx]

I don't know, doesn't seem like a "real" bug

Maybe set by choice.

Ah, ok. Tried Alien Soldier, which exists as a PAL only version, and it's detected properly. With a US>EU-JP order.

Tested some other EU exklusive, the all work fine. Maybe it's the header, redump makes error too.

[warm carbon]

yeah

I need someone smarter than me to see if it's a header issue - otherwise I can file it

[faint onyx]

The Rom header has both regions enabled, according to GenRomsuite. United States and Europe

So, this is an error.

Sent you a fixed header version.

[plain quiver]

I personally dumped multiple times that cart from multiple sources (6 in total), even with extracting directly the chip from the board for another project (pun intended) like 17 years ago.

The header was an error when mastering the files for the final revision of the game.

Redump doesn't do cartridges, BTW.

[warm carbon]

yeah, it's no intro

[faint onyx]

Of course, No-Intro. Sorry.

[warm carbon]

so nothing to be done here, @plain quiver ?

[faint onyx]

But it is an error in the header. Easy to fix with GenRomSuite though.

[plain quiver]

Same type of errors like Die Hard Arcade Europe on Saturn.

You can fix the header, but that's not the original release coming from the support (but who cares really).

[faint onyx]

https://mi.tsdx.net.ve/genSuite/gs_en.htm

Maybe No-Intro got confused. The game was released as "Out of this World" in the NTSC territory. A lot of MD games at that time were still multi region.

[warm carbon]

yeah, that was what I was wondering too. I wonder if it's even the same dump - maybe OOTW had both versions on the cart (I have no idea if this is a thing)

[faint onyx]

MD games were pratically region free until (iirc) fall 1992. But Another World/Out of this world had dedicated region releases for PAL and NTSC

[plain quiver]

Not possible, 7 dumps, from 7 different sources. During 7 different times.

That's not a mistake.

With at least 4 different machines/dumping methods.

The direct binary copy of the chip gives that header.

[faint onyx]

Well, then it is what it is. As i said. The games at said time were region free anyway. But the Mister core detect of course US first, when the order is set to US<EU<JP.

Ok, the MD version was released in mid-ish 1993. Strange, but it shows that not all games followed the protection Sega wanted to have.

Funnily the NTSC version (Out of this world) has only the "United States" region set in the rom.

[pine crystal]

Not wanting to play a PAL region game?
Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

[pale plover]

I'm going to play a NTSC game in PAL because I'm a rebel without a cause.

[worldly dust]

Out of This World is kind of a terrible name that ironically didn't dodge ANOTHER tv series coming out with that exact same name, so I sympathize playing this game in PAL

less so the Mega Drive version because in my opinion it has the absolute worst set of sound effects imaginable

the final stretch of that port is a grind on my ears

[formal summit]

Just realized the new unstable md core had fixes for direct video; it totally fixes the issues I had with the red/purple tint I had on the crt!

Thanks for the fixes 🙏

[warm carbon]

I believe those are in the stable now too, no?

[formal summit]

Oh nice

[plain quiver]

32x core incoming.
ETA : 30-40 mins.

[warm carbon]

What are we testing?

[plain quiver]

The usual suspects.

MK II, VF, Doom, Pinocchio, Kolibri, Star Wars.

Updated with the recent changes of 2025-07-17 on the SH7604 module.

-fix bus release by Slave
-fix the Sleep command

[vital idol]

-add segaCD support

[warm carbon]

knuckles hasn't crashed yet

[elder briar]

where does the crash with chaotix usually happen?

[plain quiver]

Multiple loops on the title screen.

[warm carbon]

still good here

[old sierra]

Is sys (fairly) up to date in this one?

[plain quiver]

From March of last year, I forgot to add the last version from last month inside today's core.
I was in a hurry today.

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/S32X_MiSTer/issues/59
We could test that too.

[warm carbon]

Yep, just got a crash after the first stage

[plain quiver]

Same.

So the bug is present.

[robust flax]

Tried it too and crashed

[warm carbon]

Sorry 3DO. The empire threat is more important

do we know if it ever worked?

Ok, assuming we are all taking about the same thing (the stage where you have to kill 20 ties around star destroyers) I just beat it on the April 18th 2024 stable

luckily SRG doesn't make very many updates to his cores so the change should be able to track down

[robust flax]

Yea thats the part, crashed after shooting the first 4 for me

[glad aurora]

Hey now 3DO has Rebel Assault lol

[plain quiver]

Updated with the recent changes of 2025-07-17 on the SH7604 module.
-fix bus release by Slave
-fix the Sleep command
-updated to the latest sys module

@fallow dome You can pin that one.

I forgot to update the sys module yesterday, done.

[narrow panther]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/neofid-studios/copperstorm looks cool

No ROM/digital version though. So I'm going to need to get an OSCR or something. I'm not sure what the recommended cart reader solution is

[versed rapids]

https://x.com/krikzz/status/1946277801910297077?t=zTlD3Pw0LGv49Oo3K5S2DA&s=08

krikzz (@krikzz)

Paprium. First run.

X · Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 PM

[snow knot]

quick someone message Krikzz and tell them that they prefer Streets of Rage 2!!!

[woeful goblet]

Thank you for this new build! MK 2 still shows slowdown at my side

[fallow dome]

Ok, thanks done.

[glass shale]

No sound as expected

[versed rapids]

it s the futur of gaming 🙂

[woeful goblet]

Now that an MD-MSUversion is on its way soon, hope we can see it on Mister too

[versed rapids]

if it can managed to RE the chip could be great also but could taking huge space

[pine crystal]

That was just posted literally just a few comments above....

[nocturne tusk]

Oh neat. Game itself definitely isn't worth the hype but I respect the work going into making it work.

[bright pivot]

I don't think so...

[pine crystal]

"...especially for this game."

[old sierra]

So does this mean Patrium can in theory be ran, but there will be no sound at all?

[vestal otter]

only sfx, no mp3 tracks

[ebon quail]

Yep, in other words, unless someone figures out some method of playing MP3 files while a game is playing, this is the best we'll get

[vestal otter]

just leave it as it have

[ebon quail]

Or wait until someone figures out a way to emulate the game outside RetroArch

[pine crystal]

Wonder if its audio hardware is something that can be handled via something similar to how a MT-32 Pi works. An add-on daughterboard handling it separately that MiSTer can interface with.

Would be a neat expansion cartridge idea for the MiSTer Multisystem.

[old sierra]

In theory could the music be converted to a different audio format and someone make a rom hack adding it in?

[pine crystal]

There is supposedly a 'compatibility' mode, but I think I read that using the Z80 in that manner introduces strange vibrato effects.

[plucky flare]

it still requires the STM32

it just bypasses the onboard DAC

also please I implore you all

the game does not actually use mp3s

there is no mp3 decoder

[old sierra]

PCM wave files?

[plain quiver]

24 PCM-tracker.

For speeding up/pitch modification during special attacks, the current dump cannot reproduce it.

[plucky flare]

they're already reversing the cpu->stm32 communication for the tracker. you're going to get HLE of it and then maybe sometime down the line someone will extract the rom for the microcontroller

mister will probably never really be able to run the rom, but maybe the HLE is doable. still might be tight to fit in megagdrive core tho

[old sierra]

Ironically maybe room in the old Genesis core?

[drowsy hemlock]

Genesis core will never die

[fading hare]

As long as Road Rash exists with the frame rate patch, Genesis core will live on!

[torn dome]

should have made it for Saturn instead of this SuperFX-chip-from-hell nonsense

[elder briar]

what about all those msu-md/md+/mode 1 hacks people have made for genesis games

idr if either of the genesis cores support that

[fallow dome]

It does, I pla the Genesis moonwalker with the actual soundtracks and it’s RAD AS HELL

[faint onyx]

MD+ isn't supported. But MSU-MD is.

[elder briar]

neat

[narrow jasper]

The STM32 dynamically rebuilds the soundtrack using a PCM sample/sound bank

They aren't actually streaming entire PCM tracks

The code that generates the soundtrack hasn't been dumped, so instead the current leak streams the soundtrack from the OST's MP3s

[ebon quail]

That explains things

So we still gotta wait for a full dump then before we can dream about the game on MiSTer

[stone plinth]

Outside of the 8kHz issue with Afterburner II, is the audio with the new MD core pretty spot on? I've realised I'm looking at MDFourier graphs with no idea of what I'm looking at. The junkerhq site isn't working for me atm

I'm just wondering what reasons there are to use the older core Vs the new one. (Not arsed about adaptive blending)

[split stratus]

Yeah it’s pretty great, here’s what the latest MD Fourier analysis looks like compared to a model 1 VA3. The only real difference here is on the right side of the graph which are high frequencies that most people probably won’t hear.

The main real issue left is the After Burner II one, but other than that I haven’t really noticed anything comparing the two by ear

I am interested in fixing these last few audio issues, it’s just that I don’t have much experience with audio processing yet. Would love to learn though

Actually I missed this comment from birdybro til now :

“Closing this draft PR. The root cause cannot be solved through filtering, only obscured, and the cost of filtering it is too great in terms of resources and timing impact currently. The fix for the ringing artifacts resides in the ym7101 module. It would have to be modified much in the same way emulators already do this.”

Didn’t realize there was a core issue beyond filtering here, very interesting

I’m confused though, the ym7101 is the VDP. I didn’t think that had any impact on audio, maybe a typo?

Oh, it does affect the audio. Just looking through it now

[stone plinth]

I wish I could help in some way but I'm not even remotely programming orientated

My actual Mega Drive is a Model 2 VA1 with a Triple Bypass so it has its own thing going on.

[stone plinth]

So if I'm reading this right, the PSG channel has a rolloff at about 5kHz compared to the MD1VA3 console?

[split stratus]

I had it a bit mixed up, sorgelig added a 8khz filter to the PSG channels to cut down on the noise in After Burner but it’s not technically accurate

I think that’s what the graph is showing

Though, you can set it to “no filter” and that removes the 8khz filter. I’ll try that and compare to a model 1 VA0 tomorrow, currently away from my mister setup

[stone plinth]

Doesn't that apply to the entire circuit?

[split stratus]

No filter does yes, it turns off all the filtering. It just also turns off the filter that only works on the psg

[stone plinth]

Ah so it's like all or nothing atm

[split stratus]

Yeah unfortunately

[stone plinth]

Oh well, hopefully it'll be fixed some day

I'm fortunately in a position where this probably sounds better than my actual Mega Drive anyway

[brittle geyser]

Afaik 2 different things:

1. YM7101 for visual ringing artifacts -nothing to do with audio, rather unwanted oscillating halos or fringing around sharp edges in video output and
2. YM2612 and YM3438 stuff as those are the audio chips but those issues (ladder effect, etc) were fixed in updates quite early on iirc

[split stratus]

Oh I see, makes sense

[old sierra]

Hmm, I didn't appreciate the Genesis core hasn't had .sys updated since before the DV stuff. Might be worth that being updated since people are still using it.

[warm carbon]

There is an updated version of the core. I think Robby unpinned it

#1096614378968727652 message

[old sierra]

Ah nice. May be worth PR into release folder on the GitHub, Sorg will probably allow it.

[warm carbon]

should probably do an official framework update on the repo. I can look at in a second

[plucky flare]

the repo is archived, I'm not sure you can even PR into it

[old sierra]

Ah, that's not ideal

[warm carbon]

oh did he finally archive it?

[plucky flare]

2 years ago, yes

[warm carbon]

then why does it come down with update all?

[plucky flare]

archived repos are just read only, they don't get hidden

and the genesis entry is still in the wiki I think

[warm carbon]

ahh right

[old sierra]

Hah, the worst of all worlds there

Can't be updated. Stills gets downloaded.

[plucky flare]

and now names.txt labels it as "Genesis +" which certainly won't make people think it is the one to use

[drowsy halo]

Genesis Plus

GX

[old sierra]

I increasingly think it should just be put in "Other" and kept up to date

[plucky flare]

or someone else can keep it in a repo and maintain it and one of the optional databases can pick it up

[old sierra]

Yeah, trying to think which one it could be covered by

[plucky flare]

accuracy_is_overrated.db.json

[warm carbon]

Where is the release wiki? is it this: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Wiki_MiSTer/wiki/Cores

[pine crystal]

I believe so. The latest entry is by Slamy on June 13 for the CD-i core.

[fallow dome]

That’s a great idea

[plucky flare]

fpga_emulators.db.json

[fallow dome]

I forgot if I ever pinned it or not but I can pin it now if you’d like.

[warm carbon]

Gimme a sec. Cooking an up-to-date version

[fallow dome]

Ok cool, thank you

[fallow dome]

Thank you, pins updated

Wow! Can you believe the 3DO outdoes the Sega CD?

[fading hare]

I've seen this tactic before.

[fallow dome]

lol shhhhh

[stone plinth]

So since that last update regarding the audio from Sep 23, has there been any testing of possible fixes?

I realised how audible the current rolloff is on the psg channel in comparison to my actual Megadrive as well as the older core.

Also, I don't want this to be misinterpreted as demanding or whatever; I appreciate just how fantastic this core is and I'm incredibly grateful that it and the MiSTer scene exists.

I just love the Mega Drive and I'd love for the audio to reach that same level of fantasticness as the rest of the core.

[gritty lichen]

As far as I understand the core has applied strong internal filtering on this specific channel to deal with an issue that ultimately is caused by an aliasing-distortion issue related to how the core audio outputs are managed by the framework and how the framework resamples them to the target sampling rate, which currently seems to affect the entire Mister system.

Ultimately this distortion issue first needs to be dealt with, so that we can have clean audio output as a baseline to work from. I have been chatting with @dark pumice about this specific issue for a while and I hope that a fitting solution can be eventually implemented.

Additionally we can then use the IIR filter in the framework to match the output of the cores to the real consoles. The MDFourier screenshot shows quite a large difference in frequency response. If the original console's frequency response starts to be attenuated from roughly 5khz onward, that certainly makes for quite a noticeable difference in the audio output that everyone would easily be able to notice in a direct comparison. The human hearing range spans across 20hz-20khz and ideally we'd aim to replicate the output frequency response across this entire frequency spectrum as closely as possible for all cores, in the best case even across all originally supported connection types that a console would offer (composite, s-video, etc...).

Unfortunately I'm also encountering an issue with the IIR framework filter where some filters become unstable and completely bug out the entire audio output, besides a specific filter type somehow ending up with distorted shapes, skewing the intended effect.

I started working on replicating the N64's audio output roughly 2 years ago, and learning how to work with the Mister in doing so, but the mentioned issues currently make it impossible to reach accurate results.

For now I will focus on additional testing and collecting information, which hopefully will further help to understand these issues and in turn help to implement the required improvements.

[ivory shale]

I use Sanni's cart reader, it's pretty versatile. Current version does NES, Famicom, SNES, Genesis, Master System, N64, GB/GBC/GBA. Has adapters to make it compatible with many other systems too. It's an open-source project, I've gotten all the parts from Aliexpress and PCBWay before, but there are many who sell pre-assembled ones, just make sure it's the latest version.

That being said it doesn't mean it will work with all homebrew carts, some of them might have weird designs that it's not compatible with. Isn't this dev's latest Genesis game not even compatible with any current emulator?

[stone plinth]

Thank you for your work!

[warm carbon]

@fallow dome When you ping sorg about the genny core, can you also ask about a megacd release? The unstable core fixes the audio issues folks with 9.2 boards are having, and it would be great it that got promoted to stable so it would go out with update all. I tried pinging him on the forums about it but I dunno if he pays attention to those messages

[narrow panther]

The developer said they're not using any weird stuff that would prevent it being dumped in Copper Storm. I asked on their discord.

[stone plinth]

@warm carbon is this new pinned version of the old core worth using over the one you shared yesterday?

I guess what I'm asking is will it make me better at MUSHA

[warm carbon]

Lol. It's just using the most up-to-date version of the framework. It's likely functionally identical to what I gave you yesterday

[ivory shale]

Ah, neat. Interesting that the dev talked about that considering they said they don't want to release the game digitally.

[narrow panther]

Me and someone else were asking about supporting the kickstarter given we have MiSTers

[glass shale]

https://x.com/krikzz/status/1947442118680842496?t=_4hEmo-rdf2Gojzr4U1Upg

krikzz (@krikzz)

Mega-ed mapper arrived. https://t.co/79JzHg4oZq

X · Jul 21, 2025, 11:42 PM

Paprium core wen

[pine crystal]

PapREEEEum!!!

[fallow dome]

Papi Rum

[split stratus]

Oh that’s great news

I’d guess it will probably need to be used with the older Genesis core. But I wouldn’t mind being wrong

[faint onyx]

Works fine via Everdrive Pro. Doesn't make the game any better though.

[elder briar]

another W for the old genesis core incoming 😯

[fading hare]

If the old Genesis core actually gets updated with this, I'll rename it Paprium Rash core.

Because Paprium and Road Rash will be the only games I use it for!

[pine crystal]

Papriash

[fading hare]

Roadium?

[elder briar]

i love playing mega man: the wily wars on the old genesis core with turbo enabled. the game can be as slow as molasses otherwise

[night cape]

Isn't the Mega CD core that will need to be changed to be able to run this modified version of Paprium?

[split stratus]

Depending how krikzz did it, yes, that’s a good point.

[opaque kiln]

There's a ROM hack for that, really improves the mechanics

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/8780/

[elder briar]

i've played that one before but it doesn't completely eliminate it

still a good hack though

love wily wars. imo it's the best way to play mm1-3

[plucky flare]

everdrive paprium mapper uses a risc-v softcore. wonder how big that is

[glass shale]

It doesn’t work with the Analogue Mega Sg! C’mon, Taber! LOL

[pine crystal]

I fear the Paprium leak and all the coverage and drama surrounding it has the potential retaliatory side effect of pushing Fonzie further into hiding and never fulfilling what was promised to his customers. Has anyone seen any pushback or negative reaction from him or WaterMelon? He probably sees this as a way to finally wash his hands of the whole situation and move on... which helps no one who hasn't received what they are entitled to.

"Well, the game is finally out and playable, so I don't have to do shit now."

He probably doesn't care. He's got his money...

[glass shale]

Fonzie is probably too high right now to give a shit about Paprium

[versed rapids]

https://github.com/krikzz/mega-ppm

[velvet mural]

After 8 years, did you really think that delivering on promises was even still a thought in his brain ?

[fallow dome]

I love Kirkzz’ logo lol

It’s like the Genki logo’s best friend

[versed rapids]

🙂

[ebon quail]

Maybe but at the same time, clearly most people are tired with the silence. Hell if it wasn't for it, I think most people wouldn't have been so happy about the leak.

[pine crystal]

I'm definitely not suggesting the leak was a bad thing. Quite the opposite. At least people are getting something now. That's always a good thing. I'm just pondering about the possible repercussions of it while also wondering if anyone actually cares about that now.

[brave glade]

Took money from people, didn't provide product to a huge chunk of them, somehow i don't think he's coming back. Although you never know, maybe hes around here using a different name

[pine crystal]

Hope so. 😏

[glass shale]

Probably had an OD

[brave glade]

https://github.com/krikzz/mega-ppm how much space would it take?

[warm carbon]

I would definitely do a 12x12, but you might be able to fit it in a 9x9 - would be tight though

https://tenor.com/baM15.gif

[brave glade]

ah man i was thinking more like this much space

it's about the same dimension i tell my kids when they ask how much further we need to drive to get there

[ivory shale]

"the potential retaliatory side effect of pushing Fonzie further into hiding and never fulfilling what was promised to his customers" To be fair, at this point this feels like a multiplying by zero situation. I think he gave up ever considering fulfilling what he promised as soon as he went into hiding. "Has anyone seen any pushback or negative reaction from him or WaterMelon?" as far as I am aware, no. The only pushback I saw at all was a single video that LittleMan linked of some French YouTuber being against it, but judging by the comments and downvotes nobody else agrees, and that apparently a DMCA takedown was issued by someone on archive but was eventually rejected.

[ivory shale]

Well, the FPGA in the only model of Everdrive this is compatible with has a 15.4K LE Cyclone IV and the MiSTer uses a 110K LE Cyclone V. While yeah the MiSTer also has to replicate the entire Genesis itself on top of that (and maybe even the SegaCD) considering the FPGA is still enough for an entire PS1 or like 99% of a N64 I am going to assume space on the FPGA is not going to be an issue.

Honestly, what catches my eye more is that "risc-v based mcu core (stm32 replacement)". Looks like it's using a CPU on the Everdrive to stream audio from WAV files rather than an implementation that would make the Genesis itself do it. Still probably would not be an issue, the AO486 core has the option to (badly) emulate a MT-32 on the DE-10's CPU... though the CPU is woefully underpowered for that task, but I assume that just streaming PCM files should be possible. Course, we cab't just use that part of Krizz's code since it's RISC-V code and MiSTer's CPU is ARM.

All of that is just a work-around for when/if the STM32 sound hardware ever gets fully reverse engineered and emulated though, then that workaround using WAVs or MP3s won't be needed anymore. I believe that's about the only part of the game left not reverse-engineered (Not sure about the other crazy features like using the SegaCD for better AI behavior or whatever that "megawire" thing it had does)

[brave glade]

If anyone wants to watch a great series on the paprium history this yt series is great (it's from years ago so take that into account). None the less these videos are a good watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXLtnqbeBNI

[plucky flare]

1. the MT-32 is not related at all to an STM32. 2) He's using a risc-v softcore, it's not something 'on the cart'. 3) Arm processor has nothing to do with this

[brave glade]

Just thought id post that up as it doesn't seem to come up in searches on yt anymore but is a great video series (and it's over 6yrs old!)

[heady harness]

How about an "Alternatives" kinda like we have in Arcade. I know it's not exactly the same thing, but Other doesn't feel quite right given what is already in there.

Although, I'm not really a fan of the other label anyway. Like I think Arduboy should be moved to handhelds, but that's just me.

[ivory shale]

I didn't mean that the MT-32 is related to the STM32, I meant that they were using a CPU to handle that part of the audio hardware. That being said, are you saying that Krizz implemented a Risk-V CPU on the FPGA and using that to stream the audio rather than the physical CPU that's on the Everdrive?

[plucky flare]

yes

[plucky flare]

that's unusually cheery for a Sorg response

[brave glade]

it's got a smiley face on it and everything

[woeful goblet]

Is it a critique for Krikzz’s mapper?

[glass shale]

I think he’s criticizing what it takes for the game to run (mcu, firmware plus HDL mapper) lol

[noble thunder]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MegaDrive_MiSTer/issues/70

[glass shale]

Paprium core wen

[light mist]

Mars day 1

[versed rapids]

before or after 3DO 😅

[pine crystal]

Yes. Almost certainly a possible maybe.

[floral ingot]

The accumulated crowdfunded amount related to this "project" is something close to USD 1.5 Million, and none of the campaigns were completely fulfilled, the KS one wasn't fulfilled at all.
I don't think he needs any new excuse to burn people's money and/or steal/trace assets from other games.

[ebon quail]

Steal assets? Damn, never heard about that before. Do you have any more info about that by chance? Cause I'm interested to hear more.

[vital idol]

hah, there is a github repo called csi-paprium which is apparently blocked on this server 😂

which is funny given who did the research 😉

[visual temple]

yeah, that's from one of the trolls that were harassing some people here, so links to their stuff is blocked

[vital idol]

ah, apologies

[visual temple]

it's fine though because they didnt do anything interesting or noteworthy with paprium

[vital idol]

ah yes, I have been bamboozled

[visual temple]

probably

they made a lot of noise about it

but didn't really accomplish anything other than that

[vital idol]

I mean about the account, I swear at one point I verified my eyes weren’t deceived, but alas I was

[visual temple]

?

[vital idol]

I could have sworn that I followed that fake sorg account back to the real one at some point in the past

[visual temple]

sorry i'm really not following what you are trying to say

[vital idol]

one of the contributors is a fake mister account

[visual temple]

yes

amongst other trollish sorts

one of them I think is the one who was harassing over license nonsense

[vital idol]

which ties in to what you were talking about earlier with harassment….I swear I had been linked back to the original in the past, but I was mistaken

(original sorg account, making me think that was legit)

[carmine pine]

it's not the sorgelig account, it's an imposter github account called MiSTerFPGA that already has been reported by multiple people for being an imposter for the purposes of deceiving users but github didn't listen

[warm carbon]

fucking video games.

[drowsy halo]

do these people have dozens of troll accounts, or just one for casual troll harassment?

[warm carbon]

Wait was this the dude that was harassing robert over GPL shit?

[plucky flare]

no, this is something much older

[harsh iron]

I don't think Paprium is a good game.

[fading hare]

Don't pull a Robby now and come back later to say it's a great game!

[pine crystal]

I don't think we have to worry about anyone saying that. Hard to pull off even in jest.

[fading hare]

Never underestimate Robby's powers!

[light mist]

They are just the result of an expectation underflow

[ivory shale]

I'm scared...

[edgy ruin]

Have you tried this one ?
https://github.com/TheHpman/RWORLD

It's from the guy who reverse-engineered / analyzed Paprium ROM

[elder briar]

ooh i hadn't heard of this, thanks for bringing it to my attention

[fallow dome]

The Sega Genesis marks the beginning of Sega’s great console impact, the genesis of their success. Meanwhile the MegaDrive is just a lie, there’s no drive in there.

[warm carbon]

it's not even that big

[fallow dome]

That settles that debate. 👏

[warm carbon]

do the maths

[torn dome]

the video game crash never happened

only the “american atari shock”

i will now rename every wikipedia page

[drowsy hemlock]

It drives Nintendo fans to question their purchasing decisions. Does that count?

[faint onyx]

You Crazy Christians can keep Genesis. I only indulge in the Mega Drive, it drives me crazy..for happiness.

[torn dome]

what a wonderful generation

the 3 kings had such cool names

Mega, Super, Turbo

i guess everyone in the industry viewed the new 16bit machines as essentially “sports models”

and the naming followed suit

[ebon quail]

And then over in Japan they all seem to have some kind of computer element to them.
Family Computer, PC Engine, Mega Drive

[ivory shale]

The Genesis also marks the end of Sega's great impact on consoles

[harsh iron]

Megadrive is an extreme system with extreme graphics and FM sound and a fast system... The SNES is for peaceful people that don't like the fast things and live in the fields... and of course, like the sound of flutes sounding inside a cave.

[edgy quiver]

Did i miss something? Will the Paprium mapper will be included in the MiSTer core?

[pine crystal]

That's ridiculous. 😏

[edgy quiver]

Why?

[pine crystal]

It's a joke.

[edgy quiver]

ah ok.... funny

[glass shale]

Think we need a doespapriumrunonmisteryet.com now

[versed rapids]

mini paprium does run 👀

[fallow dome]

this is perfect lmao

The flutes sealed the deal 🤣

[old sierra]

If proper Paprium runs, is there a way to still run the silly mini game?

[pine crystal]

It will be either/or.
Choose, but choose wisely.

[light mist]

Take out your clone console you filthy pirate

But I vaguely remember that it was possible

[pine crystal]

It's been aaaarrrrrchived.

[light mist]

Has been a few years though

[harsh iron]

Paprium runs in Ev pro, but it has problems

The game has good graphics, but hits doesn't hurt at all.

The physics are not from this world... maybe the game is placed in another universe or another reality... it doesn't feel good.

You can walk without moving any muscle... strange

[old sierra]

So has someone got a ROM that will only ever run as the mini game? Would be good to have that preserved separately I guess

[light mist]

Maybe deleting the save is enough

[pine crystal]

Oh, I don't know. I just sounded funny to say because 'filthy pirate' was mentioned. 🙂

[glass shale]

Yep! Bad dumps which have been around since ages ago are the mini game only

Where are those FPGA wizards from MARS now? Paprium support on MiSTer wen

Hopefully it doesn’t require dual ram 🙏

[plain quiver]

The dump with only Mini Paprium exists.

So it's preserved and already done.

[versed rapids]

Is the Mini Paprium has a end ?

[old sierra]

As in, is it a completable game or does it just keep running until you die/give up?

[restive dagger]

There are 2 potential solutions - 1. we make paprium into CHD, then make mega drive core support CHD, 2. We make it into an ISO.. (difficult) and make the megacd core support this modified ISO.. lol.. just played it on my pocket Ace.

[warm carbon]

Sorg will love both of these solutions

[fringe zodiac]

I call it a MiSTer feature. MiSTer does not WANT to run Paprium. For reasons.

[stone plinth]

So, I'm gonna preface this by acknowledging that the old Genesis core is retired but I have been playing around with it due to the audio differences vs the current core. Something I've always enjoyed is CRAM dots (they're like part of the look for me) and my question is, was is known that the CRAM dots weren't "accurate" on the old core?

In Sonic 3, the devs were able to shove the CRAM glitches outside of the game window for the most part (like when there was a mid-screen palette change). The new core reflects this, but the old core doesn't seem to be displaying them correctly.

This is the current core (I have border turned off so you can't see any)

Old core you can see them

It's not a complaint, I'm just interested. It's cool to see how accurate/inaccurate an old core was.

[glass shale]

New core wins again 😌

[torn fog]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-think-they're-neat-i-just-think-they-are-neat-neat-neato-potato-gif-13037576960641876940

Does the new core still have cram dots, I just think they're neat

[stone plinth]

Oh it definitely does, I leave them on

It's just that Sonic 3 in particular shoves them outside of the viewable window into the overscan/border

did anyone ever remove the 8kHz filter? I've had a look around the code but I'm incredibly out of my depth.

[narrow panther]

Can the old core play Overdrive 2?

[glass shale]

Yes

Glitchlessly

[ivory shale]

The minigame (called PAAAAA) always plays on first boot on an original cartridge, so I guess just deleting the save would be enough.

[night cape]

Running on the genesis + core should always boot it.

[ivory shale]

Also makes me wonder if either Genesis core can display the high-color images that Gamehut guy made that rely on the glitchy look of them. Though I can't seem to find the code for it anymore... also it would only work on a CRT and I don't have one at the moment

[drowsy hemlock]

Really not a fan of the new names.txt. Time to roll my own 😔

“Genesis +” just feels… wrong

(Not a complaint, just personal preference)

[warm carbon]

naming shit is hard

[drowsy hemlock]

For sure, and you can’t please everyone

[pine crystal]

That's why it's been user-customizable since day one. 😏

[drowsy hemlock]

Second sentence ^

Roll my own = go back through the git history

[fallow dome]

I name everything Nintendo on mine

[warm carbon]

true sothern mentality

it's all coke and nintendo down here

[fallow dome]

Nintendo Genesis
Nintendo Mastery System
Nintendo Saturn

[drowsy hemlock]

Nintendo Super Nintendo

Nintendo Nintendo Entertainment System

[drowsy hemlock]

Also it’s called the Nintendo Mega Drive

[stone plinth]

Nintendo PlayStation

[ivory shale]

Since it's the older less accurate core, maybe then "Genesis -" ?

I remember my grandmother once calling my NES the "Tintendo"

[stone plinth]

Genesis + just makes me want to put "GX" on the end of it

[fallow dome]

God I want to rename all my cores Tintendo now

[ivory shale]

Genesis+ GX & Knuckles

[bright pivot]

Paprium stuffs that HPman shared (i think it's audio related or STM32 idk)

[split stratus]

Here it is, I was curious too

[stone plinth]

What an absolute legend! Unfortunately I've just started work so I can't check it for the next 7 hours

[split stratus]

Oof though I just tested After Burner II and that ringing is something awful

[stone plinth]

Thanks for doing that though. Have you had chance to check with MDFourier?

[split stratus]

most games sound great at least

not yet, going to do that next

[stone plinth]

Well that's exciting news. I'm assuming the PSG still gets filtered anyway but this was like a pre-filter?

[split stratus]

Yeah exactly, there's a low pass filter that filters the combined output

but sorgelig also added another filter for specifically the PSG before it gets mixed with everything else

[stone plinth]

Righto that makes sense, thanks!

Excited to see the graph (I think I have a better idea of how to read it now) and more importantly, give it a test run myself!

[split stratus]

pretty close without the PSG filter

Noise and PSG do need to be slightly louder but only slightly

[stone plinth]

Wow that's actually pretty impressive compared to the old graph

Maybe the core could just reject After Burner II

[stone plinth]

My fingers and toes are crossed for a solution to this soon. Thanks again to everyone involved.

[edgy quiver]

Will there be a digital rom version of Earthion?

[night cape]

I wish there was a "Mega AMP" option on the core.

[glass shale]

Core sound is already too good for a mega amp

[stone plinth]

My legit Mega Drive is a Model 2 and has a triple bypass. Not sure how it stacks up to the current filtering.

[torn fog]

Is the mega drive the single system with the most variance?

[stone plinth]

I want to say yes

All sorts of things changed between revisions

[pine crystal]

Probably the only console to rival the Genesis/Mega Drive with regards to audio differences between hardware revisions is the NES/Famicom... and possibly even surpass it.

[stone plinth]

Oh wow that whistle is really in your face isn't it

[pale plover]

I'm assuming the Steam release is just going to be the ROM in an emulation shell, so you can get the ROM in the source files.

[edgy quiver]

Does that method work on mac too?

[vestal otter]

not confirmed yet

[fading hare]

Definitely wouldn't make that assumption.

[kind quail]

Paprium shmaprium.

[night cape]

Thank you for this!

[stone plinth]

Temporary fix found for the After Burner II issue. If you listen to the whistle for long enough, you become temporarily deaf to it.

[glass shale]

I think the whistle has the same frequency as my tinnitus because I can’t hear it 😌

[vital idol]

just wait a few decades and you won’t be able to hear that frequency anymore?

[stone plinth]

Well if I turn off the filtering altogether, I can only faintly hear it.

Audio is such an interesting thing. When I was first getting into audio production and learned about what phase was all about I was like "Oh heck there's like... theory and stuff behind all this."

[ivory shale]

Sadly that's not always the case, and even in some cases the dev or publisher might try to obfuscate the ROM (Capcom did that with the recent collections, I think Konami too). Then there is the case of Rikki & Vikki where the Steam version does include the ROM, but it's pretty much unplayable on MiSter or any software emulator because it uses a custom chip.

[void eagle]

Rikki and Vikki is lacking music on MiSTer, but is fully playable.

[ivory shale]

Huh, when I tried it I just got a glitchy mess. but yes, the chip is for the music

[void eagle]

I think I had to add a specific header to it, but it does work.

[ivory shale]

Huh, maybe I added the header wrong when I last tried, got it working now

[fading hare]

Yeah, we even did a game-challenge for Rikki and Vikki.

[pine crystal]

Yeah, that game has worked for me for years.

[ivory shale]

Odd, I had gotten the game on Steam and tried patching the rom and it didn't work, but just now I tried it again and it worked.

[fringe zodiac]

In 2025 we would play the Saturn version anyway

A global filter to fix one game was a misstep. Such band-aid solutions not only fail to address the root cause but also actively impede deeper investigation and the development of sustainable fixes."

[stone plinth]

Based on what I saw from the GitHub issues page, there were some ideas floating around. I think the focus just naturally shifted to other areas.

[fallow osprey]

What is this Genesis + core from two years ago?

[warm carbon]

the old genesis core. it has a couple different features but isn't as accurate

[stone plinth]

The CRAM dots are a bit off in the old core which, of course, makes it completely unplayable.

[fading hare]

Turbo mode baby! 🤘

[spare summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEg0oDZN3I

[versed rapids]

at least on MiSTer with futur hack of the rom we will able to play it with FM Music

[bright pivot]

You still need audio files

Even in FM

[versed rapids]

ok ...

[thorny pivot]

A week late, but just wanted to say thanks for the framework update on the genesis turbo core.

[stone plinth]

I've actually been enjoying playing with the old core. Reminds me of the time I had to pack away my RetroTINK 4K and a load of consoles and all I had available was my Saturn and OSSC. It was like a little time capsule.

Am I right in my understanding that the old core was still more accurate than the MegaSG? Can't remember if I actually read that or it just appeared in a mundane but vivid dream.

[glass shale]

I had a report that the MegaDrive core doesn’t support YC. Is that true?

[warm carbon]

It works ok for me

Using the mikeS adapter

[glass shale]

Composite and all?

[warm carbon]

pretty sure. I can check again rq

[glass shale]

Thanks!

[gritty tide]

Works for me with MisterAddon’s adapter though I notice like a faint vertical bar effect on edges. I can take a picture when I get home. I use a 13” Magnavox. But I’m happy with the picture

[gritty tide]

I noticed it on the SMS core too. I don’t have the original consoles to know if this is accurate behavior. These are the only cores I’ve seen it on so far

[glass shale]

Are you using an IO Analog Pro from MiSTerAddons?

@warm carbon do you get those vertical artifacts with the IO Analog Pro?

[gritty tide]

Nope, I have a 9.2 board from misterfpga.co.uk and vga_mode=svideo but I’m outputting composite

[warm carbon]

I can look. I actually have the ma cable too

[gritty tide]

Looks like the MegaCD core too. I don’t see it on NES, SNES, PSX, NeoGeo, and N64

Ecco the Dolphin on MegaCD

[warm carbon]

@glass shale that's with the setup you're going for: mister pi, analog pro, MA multi-out cord

[glass shale]

Looking gorgeous OMG! 😍

Thanks for testing this @warm carbon

Is that composite or component?

[warm carbon]

svideo

[glass shale]

Awesome

[warm carbon]

i can test composite too, that's actually easier as this shitty desk tv has that

[glass shale]

Will start my CRT hunt soon

[fallow dome]

Cool looking CuRTs!

[pine crystal]

They're okay...

[warm carbon]

How dare u speak about my d liek that

[pine crystal]

Okay, fine!
It's big... and... shiny?

[warm carbon]

thxthx

[gritty tide]

Can anyone with a MisterAddons Y/C encoder see if they get those artifacts like I do? It seems I see them only on the Sega cores and didn’t know if it was the cores, my .ini, yc.txt or the hardware. My output is 9.2 board > VGA cable > Y/C adapter > composite output with vga_mode=svideo, ntsc_mode=0, composite_sync=1. Switch is away from the VGA port and powered by USB-C

[glass shale]

@gritty tide are you using any custom frequencies for those cores in the mister.ini?

[gritty tide]

No, the mister.ini I pulled a fresh copy from GitHub and only adjusted those parameters above and whichever yc.txt comes from update_all

[glass shale]

Can you pls test G-LOC with the MegaDrive core on S-VIDEO and see if you get a red-ish intro screen instead of the normal colors?

[warm carbon]

yup. i will do that later today

[warm carbon]

Not sure what you’re looking for, but I see no red in any screens

[glass shale]

Could you please share your mister.ini and yc.txt?

[warm carbon]

should be standard yc.txt

[glass shale]

Jesus best user ever!! Thank you! 🙏🙏

[fading hare]

Jesus is a better user than Robby confirmed!

[warm carbon]

I disagree

robby has much more patience than I do

despite working on doom eternal

i dunno what those two things have to do with one another

but it needs to be disclosed

[fallow dome]

Now it’s this thread that won’t stop showing up as unread no matter how many times I click it!

[light mist]

Maybe you are imagining things

[drowsy hemlock]

Anybody else adding messages and then deleting them just to mess with Robby?

[glass shale]

Earthion is up on Steam!!! Wondering if the ROM is among the Steam files? 🤔

[vital idol]

Discord is leaving Robby on unread? What did you do this time? You need to stop going out on strange trains after work.

[fresh wharf]

Happy earthion day!

[harsh iron]

doesn't load in the EV Pro... ROM IS TOO BIG.

[plain quiver]

I've seen a 24Mio file as 'game.bin' inside the Data folder.

But I don't have time to check and decompile it.

Too much fun on Ninja Gaiden and the new Cotton game today.

[vital idol]

ninja gaiden and new cotton? what did I miss?

ah, high tension, not on steam yet

[plain quiver]

Yes, I bought it as an import on Switch.

Like the other ones.

[glass shale]

Does it look like a valid rom from an hex editor?

[plain quiver]

Not checked yet, just asked a friend to buy it for him first.
And send me screenshots of the file structure.

I will check inside later if necessary, but I think everyone I know of is already checking the game.

[glass shale]

Those checkers

[plain quiver]

Not mine.

But I can see where to check and decompile later.

[versed rapids]

it misses mister.so 🤣

[plain quiver]

😏

[light mist]

I get the feeling that this koshiro guy knows something about sound

[glass shale]

That almost matches my tinnitus frequency (10200)!!

Yuzo Koshiro fixing MegaDrive core sound wen

[narrow panther]

Earthion crashes on Linux, and I don't know how to extract the ROM to play on the MiSTer. 🙁

[plucky flare]

you can't play it on mister

[narrow panther]

It's not an emulator + ROM bundle?

[light mist]

nope

[narrow panther]

😭

[plucky flare]

also it seems to run fine on linux for me

[fading hare]

The rom is there and can be extracted, but you just can't play it on emulators or MiSTer.

I'm going to boot up the game on my Steam Deck in a bit to give it a spin.

[velvet mural]

Cartridge comes out in 2026 doesn't it

[narrow panther]

Yeah

[plucky flare]

is LRG handling the cart too? prepare yourself for 2027

[vestal otter]

don't think ROM isn't included with the Steam version

and, Koshiro said before, it might be having some bugs until they full complete with the cartridge version

[faint onyx]

The game.bin is 24MB. So no, nothing an emulator or Mister can boot yet.

[vestal otter]

is it file for the .exe game

[faint onyx]

Yeah, maybe it includes an MD emulator too. Makes sense. The game itself won't be that big.

[vestal otter]

don't think

[faint onyx]

I don't know. It really looks like the real MD rom for me. Not sure why they enabled the overlayed native PC text. Makes no sense

Reminds me of the Retroarch Bezels and CRT filters.

[pine crystal]

Captionception

[faint onyx]

Thank god you can disable this. I think this is the real MD game. Has all the game options in lores too.

Nice game, the enemy formations could be a bit less hetic. But technically a marvel.

Good use of the MD hardware.

[fading hare]

Played the game for a bit and made it to the final stage. Then I ran out of credits.

But yeah, the game is good.

[faint onyx]

Not as good a Thunder Force III or IV, but pretty good imo.

[fading hare]

It does have some visibility issues in my opinion at times where it's hard to tell what can and can't damage you.

I died on more than one occasion by colliding with stage hazards that I thought were part of the background or getting hit by projectiles that were hard to see with everything else going on.

Also, what on earth is up with the laggy as hell menus? Not the in-game "rom" menus, but the PC menus for changing the filters and getting rid of the boarder art. I don't think I've ever encountered menus that laggy in my life.

[faint onyx]

The PC menus are perfectly fine for me.

I switched to Raw Input in the controller settings. My 8bitdo Ultimate 2 controller won't work properly without

[fading hare]

I was using my Mayflash arcade stick. And the menus were so busted that it was a genuine struggle to even navigate them. I don't even think "laggy" describes what the problem is. They seemed outright broken.

[void eagle]

I'm suspecting it may actually be a compressed file with multiple roms inside since the game also has the demo and prototype roms as extras and the Hex editor didn't show any MD header.

[light mist]

when in doubt, assume everything can damage you

but yes, same problem on first try

[pine crystal]

Thunder Force III is perfection.
The gameplay, graphics... and damn, that soundtrack slaps.

[faint onyx]

Only beaten by Gate of Thunder. But yeah, the best MD shooter.

[bright pivot]

The earthion rom doesn't run on retroarch nor MiSter, any thoughts?

[drowsy hemlock]

#1096614378968727652 message

[plain quiver]

There are like 4 ROMs in one.

The final version, 2 betas and a preview version.

[glass shale]

Someone already decrypted the bin file? 😱

None of them running on emulators/MiSTer?

[drowsy hemlock]

#1096614378968727652 message

[pine crystal]

But can you play it on emulators/MiSTer? 🤔

[drowsy hemlock]

#1096614378968727652 message

[stone plinth]

I'm hoping Yuzo's new music inspires some solutions for the PSG channel on the current core.

There's a lot of magic that goes on in that channel, especially in Yuzo's music

[versed rapids]

https://bravewave.bandcamp.com/album/earthion-original-soundtrack

Exo-War Bastion is great track 🙂

[plain quiver]

No sample mode used on the YM2612 module for the soundtrack.

Strange choice done by Koshiro.

[stone plinth]

I've only really heard mostly his Streets of Rage stuff but I think samples were used mainly for sfx

You could probably get closer to a 909 style sound with proper synth rather than a sample

[faint onyx]

Buuuh.

[chrome moss]

My hope was I could buy the game and get the rom. Playing on PC is nice but playing on Genesis or mister is nicer

[fallow dome]

Calling this out as awesome and super encouraged. Please support modern retro games by purchasing them through online stores or the physical cart, even if you intend to only play on your MiSTer. This is a great way to contribute back to retro gaming.

[chrome moss]

Absolutely, I am buying it 100%

[drowsy hemlock]

Except you can’t play on your MiSTer

[faint onyx]

We will probably in 2026.

[velvet mural]

Yeah, if I was going to release a retrocomputer game on Windows in 2025 with the actual retro-ROM in 2026, I would probably make a recompiler rather than an emulator to distribute

And probably half of the people who would make a retrogame in 2025 targeting original hardware would put some weird additional chip on the cartridge either because:
a) They want to prevent people from running it on emulation (and/or pirating), or
b) because they aren't able to achieve what they want by writing code for the existing hardware (either they aren't good enough at programming, or are writing in HLL and wasting cycles, or their imaginations are just creating stuff that's not possible on original hardware).

The other half would "color within the lines" though

[glass token]

I just wish I could pay for the rom. Happy to support this game as I do want to play it but would prefer to do so on mister on my CRT.

[velvet mural]

Yeah, I'll say it's 50-50 whether it'll be playable that way when it actually gets released

[plain quiver]

We are doing some researches now, and we have maybe found a method for deobfuscating the assets.

[faint onyx]

The early prototype?

Just had a quick look a few hours ago.

[plain quiver]

Extracted from the Steam release, on one of my MiSTer.

[faint onyx]

So this prototype is already working? Impressive. Do you think the normal game will run too?

[plain quiver]

I don't know at all.

But we have access to the assets now.

I just wanted a PoC with others, as I don't want to go further.

The game is zero day.
And I know personally some team members on the game...

[fading hare]

Definitely a more worthy effort to get working than something like Paprium was. Been playing Earthion on my Steam Deck and it is quite good.

[faint onyx]

So it looks like all rom versions are inside the game.bin after all.

[plain quiver]

I don't know if they are complete, I'm checking right now.

And I was potentially wrong before. Mea culpa.

[glass shale]

I can see there’s some hax0ring going on here 🤔

[plain quiver]

The game boots but graphics are scrambled.

Special mapper ?

[faint onyx]

encyrpted or compression?

I can't see why this game would need a new mapper.

[fading hare]

Could always just be implemented to prevent easy rom extraction/distribution.

[plain quiver]

The sounds and effects work correctly though and the logic is there.

[chrome moss]

Nice! So there is hope. Pretty cool!

[fading hare]

At least in the short term until the physical copy releases.

[warm carbon]

i’ll buy it the moment i can extract the rom

[fading hare]

Honestly worth buying regardless.

[warm carbon]

i will not play it on the PC / steam deck - that’s the problem

but if I am buying the rom for my mister….

[faint onyx]

Maybe the game.exe acts like some kind of protection and decrypt the graphics properly. I don't know. I just play video games.

[fading hare]

Let's just create a color filter for the game! Boom!

[plain quiver]

I deleted some of my earlier statements because my decompilation analysis was flawed.
And people were parroting my words on certain sites.

Mea culpa.

[vital idol]

Don’t forget that Robby runs time extension 😉

[ivory shale]

Yeah, I agree that people should not just distribute the ROM, especially for a homebrew game that literally came out less than 24 hours ago. What about a tool (once/if we figure this out) that extracts the ROM but requires you to use the files from the version you purchased on Steam? I think people created such tools for some of the Megaman collections since Capcom obfuscated the ROMs in those.

[faint onyx]

In another words, a patch.

[ivory shale]

I don't think you can just toss a bps on it to pop out a rom.

[faint onyx]

Sure you can. Source file+already extracted rom, and then create a patch for the diff.

[warm carbon]

I'll let you take from this what you wish

[ivory shale]

You bought Bad Rats?

[fallow dome]

No sharing of the rom or instructions on how to decrypt it, please. Not saying anyone here was going to, just posting that preemptively.

[pine crystal]

Hey, that's my screenshot!

[fading hare]

Nice, the password I recorded from my Steam play through actually records your initials too, so when I booted it up on my MiSTer it's just a direct continuation, initials and all.

[fallow dome]

Looks very cool

[fading hare]

Finished my first play through on MiSTer! Normal difficulty.

[faint onyx]

Huh, via an extracted rom?

[split stratus]

I’ll definitely be buying this if it can be played on MiSTer

[faint onyx]

Ah, via MisterCast i guess

[warm carbon]

no, there is a rom in the wild. it’s why I bought it

[glass token]

Just played through it on steam. Game absolutely rules. The CRT shader is quite nice too

[plucky flare]

wild roms? like free range roms? you have to venture into the forest to hunt them?

[warm carbon]

If I told you robby would have me arrested

[plucky flare]

Robby's cops only travel by train which means they can't reach 99% of the world population

[faint onyx]

Ah, finally. This feels so much better via Mister+Retrotink 4K+LG OLED than on my Windows PC via Steam.

[worn lake]

Enjoying playing it on steam, great to see the various audio filter options in the menus

[fresh wharf]

anyone have any success with genny controller on earthion on steam with the reflex adapt? im struggling lol

[fresh wharf]

flashed to xinput mode and tweaked a few things on steaminput and it works like a dream

damn got to level 7 and biffed it

[glass shale]

Same reason I purchased it too

[pine crystal]

So, your name's Jack?
Jack O. Lantern?

[bright pivot]

@plain quiver someone told me this about deemonclaw , what do you think?

From a quick analysis of available ROM dump, the game uses the known Sega mapper for SRAM/ROM bankswitching through !TIME signal (writes to A130F1h-A130FFh) so any dumper capable of dumping SSF2 game and previous Neofid games should be able to dump the full ROM (18×512KB pages).

I did not see any unmapped address being accessed so it does not seem there is any copy protection, it is likely same hardware as Demons of Asteborg cartridge... with bigger ROM

[plain quiver]

No idea, sorry.
But it might make sense, since NeoFid isn't going to be completely redesigning for that game. They had a mapper that worked on previous games.
And the time seems a bit short to change mappers.

(Very busy today, sorry I can't take more time.)

[bright pivot]

no worrires, thx for reply

[glass token]

I used a Saturn controller no problem. had the reflex adapt plugged in before I started my pc and it worked right away. The firmware I have flashed on my adapt is n64xinput, saturn/gen, snes/nes

[harsh iron]

Earthion is impossible in the SNES.

SNES lost forever.

Megadrive is a protocultural system that came from a distant star in liquid light ships milions of years ago. It was designed in the deep of the Universe for give us the FEELING, the true FEELING.

[heady harness]

...I couldn't resist...

Robby's cops.

[glass shale]

ROM police

[fallow dome]

OI, U GOT A LICENSE FOR THOSE ROMS, INNIT?

[drowsy hemlock]

Why are you trying to be a British chav?

[fallow dome]

OI, BRITISH IS AS BRITISH DOES, SPAGHETTI-OH

[drowsy hemlock]

u wot m8

[vital idol]

I just want to know why Robby is brandishing a femur

[fallow dome]

I am super British so I say spaghetti-oh instead of Cheerios cause British don’t eat cereal but they eat pasta

[drowsy hemlock]

I eat cereal, every now and then

[old sierra]

You guys joke, but I literally can't view the off topic channel here anymore because of the new UK online safety laws and I am refusing to scan my face to get access.

[fallow dome]

LOL seriously?

Do you now have a ping in that channel that you can never get rid of?

[fallow dome]

Geeezus

[old sierra]

Yep.

[noble thunder]

Oh yeah, the facial recognition that gets tricked by Death Stranding

[fallow osprey]

Does Earthion work on the MiSTer core? I bought it on Steam, copied over the .bin, but it just boots to a black screen.

[plucky flare]

that bin will not work. we can't tell you more than that

[old sierra]

And yes, I did just get a notification on the off topic channel I couldn't view. Thankfully I can mark as read so it goes away

[fallow dome]

I thought I had a fool proof way to troll the British!!!

[drowsy hemlock]

Came in for me before I even knew what it was (I ignored the news about this) - it’s the only scan I’ve done 😄

👀

[warm carbon]

https://bsky.app/profile/luckykennedy.bsky.social/post/3lvblwcxig22z

(@luckykennedy.bsky.social)

Out witted by the source engine... HOLY SHIT!
Getting tricked by a game model from 2004! Jesus Christ that's embarrassing!

▶ Play video

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[old sierra]

Yeah, my mate used Death Stranding 2 to beat it, so it does indeed work

Without derailing this thread, the clown show this law has been has just mass pushed people (especially young lads wanting to look at boobs) into using VPNs and ironically are now more likely to see genuinely harmful material, so it has been a complete mess.

People in the US keep engaged, as a similar bill has gone back to your House that would bring in similar age restrictions.

[glass token]

I got Earthion working on the MD core. Looks so damn good on my CRT

[heady harness]

Yeah, can't view adult web sites in my state without providing ID first now.

[fallow osprey]

I feel ZPF will dwarve compared to Earthion. Wow.

Earthion is the real deal.

[glass token]

It really is. I’m gonna try for a 1CC today using my arcade stick on mister. That last boss is tough though might need to do easy mode first lol

[warm carbon]

Worst fucking timeline

[chrome moss]

How does it play on Genesis? Lots of slowdown or pretty solid?

[warm carbon]

No, it’s wild it plays perfectly

I keep having to remind myself I’m playing it on a goddamned Mister

[plucky flare]

"I'm doing illegal things"

[glass token]

I paid for the game on steam and played through it on my PC. Now I’m playing it on mister. I’m not the only one to say this so what is the issue.

[warm carbon]

Goddamnit I knew it, YOU’RE THE COP

[plucky flare]

ANY OF YOU KIDS EVER USED "ROMS" BEFORE?!

[loud gull]

Everdrive x3 cant handle the size of earthion for like 400kb

[old sierra]

Does this Earthion game not have a cart release?

[glass token]

Comes out in 2026

[old sierra]

Or is it one of these situations like Paprium where the card has a load of modern chips on it

Ah OK

So they released some digital version as a file bundling the ROM with an emulator?

[vital idol]

just delete it every 24 hours and you are legally secure

Robby told me so

[glass token]

@old sierra a .bin is included in the steam release. Some manual work is required to get it to work on mister. I can’t say more than that. I got some heat for things I said yesterday so gonna leave it at that

It’s a great game any way you play it though

[old sierra]

Thanks for the info. I am not looking for the file, I am just trying to catch up on the conversation and think I am now

[loud gull]

I will preorder the cartridge as soon as its possible, tbh the steam version doesnt feel right

[ivory shale]

Just make sure to delete them within 24 hours and you'll be fine.

[ivory shale]

Please tell me that LRG aren't the ones handling the physical release

[fading hare]

They are. womp womp

[plucky flare]

enjoy your 2027 cart delivery

[ivory shale]

🙁

[glass token]

Yeah fuck LRG forever. Never giving them a single dollar

[chrome moss]

Just bought it! Excited to boot this up tonight when the kids go to bed. I keep hearing nothing but excellent things

Is it true I am locked into an xbox 360 controller? Or can I use my DS4 on my PC just fine with the Steam release?

[warm carbon]

DS4 works fine on steam

[faint onyx]

Raw Input is supported too.

It's a bit annoying that the 8bitdo M30 has generally an akward button detection in Windows though (in a completely wrong order). Couldn't remap the buttons to the real MD layout.

[glass token]

If you have a reflex adapt you can use a saturn or genesis controller too

[faint onyx]

Problem seems: The PC GUI button mapping won't allow specific buttons from the M30 (A to A e.g), even if you delete already mapped buttons.

Via Mister you are free of this nonsense. Real MD pad mapping with the 8bitdo M30.

[warm carbon]

https://tenor.com/vniC.gif

[drowsy halo]

Open a Paprium 2 kickstarter

[faint onyx]

Poopium for all!

[ivory shale]

Paprion? Earthium?

[glass shale]

Fonzieon

[ivory shale]

That just sounds like the worst possible option for an Eeveelution

[faint onyx]

Too late!

Tell it Yuzo, it's his fault. 😆

[ivory shale]

Nah, should have used .rm files

[faint onyx]

He actually made MP3s...and FLAC.

https://bravewave.bandcamp.com/album/earthion-original-soundtrack

My favorite:

https://bravewave.bandcamp.com/track/exo-war-bastion

[glass token]

Yooo def gonna get this FLAC. Soundtrack bangs. Automatically shot its way up to one of the best on the Genesis

Wonder if Mondo or someone else will do vinyl

[fallow dome]

Yeah I agree, Paprium is like the real deal and Earthion is not a real

Paprium gang rise it

Jesus I almost laughed out loud in this meeting I’m in

[faint onyx]

Earthion is Triple A, Paprium Triple P(oop).

[faint onyx]

https://imgur.com/gallery/lego-case-mister-fpga-project-RQdzVXD

[fallow dome]

Paprium is basically Earthion but good

[worn lake]

Seems LR is

https://blackscreenrecords.com/products/earthion?variant=51341863354634

[faint onyx]

You can order the soundtrack everywhere. LOL, even normal media stores here in Germany lists it.

[versed rapids]

Are you Fonzie 🤣 ?

[faint onyx]

Jean-Claude Martial Arts?

[drowsy hemlock]

Is Perineum better than Earthbound?

[drowsy halo]

I know ppl hate fozzie but maybe we should give him another chance, financially.

[drowsy hemlock]

Is he the guy with the Lambo?

[drowsy halo]

No he made perenium

[drowsy hemlock]

Ah, thanks

[drowsy halo]

Lambo guy lives in Spain

[drowsy hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/lady-gaga-alejandro-roberto-fernando-choreography-gif-16992565

[drowsy halo]

Yeah. He didn't make games though. He made consoles for you to enjoy playing games on. But sega tried to shut him down

[drowsy hemlock]

Sega really are the Nintendo of gaming

[drowsy halo]

Nintendo has the better version of earthworm john

[drowsy hemlock]

I’ve only ever played Earthworm James on my MegaDrive

[vital idol]

have no fear, LRG is! https://limitedrungames.com/products/earthion-2lp-vinyl-soundtrack

[trim silo]

Anyone playing earthion? Looks good I want to test on the core

[sly zephyr]

main+sub button doesnt work on earthion, I hope they release a patch

[fallow dome]

so he’s the true Grundle Gooch???

[plucky flare]

main+sub works fine

[glass token]

Make sure in the core you have 6 button controller selected

[stone plinth]

I've been hearing some great stuff about a shmup on the Mega Drive with excellent music. I think it's called Thunder Force IV?

[warm carbon]

Actually it's call Sonic 3. The snow level has some great music definitely not by michael jackson

[stone plinth]

Have you actually heard Hard Times?

I was shook

https://youtu.be/H2OWC5Hosv8