🔨│crafting-help

[serene meadow]

In my calcs it's around 8500 to hit all 4 on the fossil

[wraith prawn]

8k fossils is not justifiable imo lol

[serene meadow]

Yes

[wraith prawn]

yea lol

[halcyon jasper]

calculator?

[serene meadow]

Lol I was thinking maybe imprinting 35% + all attributes, and just trying to foulborn regal, then exalt for life, and if I miss then Aug life and pray

[halcyon jasper]

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

yea, left click mods u want, then select "fossils" as method, "compute best selection"

[wraith prawn]

honestly idk how good foulborn regal/ex is versus normal, that may be an option in this case. originally (saying not sanctified was fine) i was thinking of just needing 3 mods but if u need all 4 its kind of the worst thing ever

[serene meadow]

Yup, that's why I waited so long before actually going for it

[wraith prawn]

iirc all attr/int/life will all have the same weight so 35% + suffix imprint -> regal jail

regal is like maybe a 2-3%?? and then the ex would be the same odds basically

[serene meadow]

Yup...

[wraith prawn]

way cheaper than fossils

clusters r kind of awful though, theres a reason synth clusters r mirrored so much

[serene meadow]

At this point I'm only thinking of what's faster. I already have like 800 sancs stocked up from previous crafts anyways

[serene meadow]

Yup

But there's none for my build

So here I am lol

Gonna try going back to beast jail

[wraith prawn]

sanc fossils are like 4 mirrors worth if craftofexile isnt lying which it probably is but i cba to check

which imo is wayy too much to justify time save

also as im sure ur aware u can very quickly run the economy out of delve-exclusive fossils (which are now all of them) if u craft too much lmfao

yeah theres like ~800 total on faustus atm

[serene meadow]

Yeah, been clearing out all the fundamentals and pristines

They like doubled in price rn

[wraith prawn]

i should get back in the mines

[serene meadow]

Lmao

[wraith prawn]

faustus has all my money anyways

i need 0 investment strats and im sick of Science for the time being

[serene meadow]

I feel you

I wonder if people would mirror this if I post it

When it's done

[hardy pumice]

this late into the league idk if things get mirrored much in the first place, especially jewels

who knows though

its kind of hard to have an item in mirror service anyway, since you really want to use it yourself

[serene meadow]

True

Honestly I just wanna finish with it, this is pretty much my end league project

Hopefully I can finish it this weekend

[halcyon jasper]

how to craft these?

My base is already

do I spam exalt, eld annul now unntil I hit p1/p2?

anything I can block?

[wraith prawn]

if u wanted those exact mods u can block evasion (%inc evasion OR +# evasion)

its probably cheapest to just slam slam? though personally i might consider settling for t1/t2 just cause it's a bit annoying otherwise

[hardy pumice]

lock suffix veil chaos for MS into slam ex and craft life - likely the best option

hard to beat it for value

[wraith prawn]

yeah i agree if ur not looking for exactly t1/t1

[hardy pumice]

otherwise its a tall order to hit two t1s

could of course try the eldritch method for one of the two mods then lock suffix augment for the other

[wraith prawn]

matron is like 2 cents rn so ur basically just paying veiled chaos and a bit of luck if u slam

i was playing around with blocking flat evasion -> slamming so u maybe get better life than crafted cause its only like 1 div to redo prefixes if u get fucked up*

[hardy pumice]

is that 2 cents at what RMT provider's exchange rate /s

[hardy pumice]

u mean just going for lock suffix veil chaos and slam, and repeat that

[wraith prawn]

yeah pretty much

going for like t1% evasion* or t2+ life

[hardy pumice]

i guess yea the veils are cheap and so are matrons

[wraith prawn]

if theyre willing to slam annul slam annul they prob have enough anyways

[halcyon jasper]

I just saw that Vei Chaos is not expensive at all.

[wraith prawn]

yea

[halcyon jasper]

slammed a bit and setttled with t1 life t3 speed, prolly 3 div or so

thanks!

[wraith prawn]

if u care ab life more than speed thats fine

[halcyon jasper]

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

if u want speed veiled is prob best option

[halcyon jasper]

!giverep @hardy pumice

[wraith prawn]

but good settle for now

[halcyon jasper]

yup

1 div lock suffix is not expensive compared to slamming eld annuls xd

[hardy pumice]

it should be like 60 chaos

unless thats standard

[halcyon jasper]

what 60c?

[hardy pumice]

the suffix lock from bristle matron

[halcyon jasper]

bestiary?

[hardy pumice]

yeah?

[wraith prawn]

ye

[hardy pumice]

i assumed thats what you meant by 1div suffix lock

[wraith prawn]

if u meant 1 div for suffix lock + veiled chaos its around that

but matron itself is 60c

[halcyon jasper]

thoiught you mastercraft lock it

[hardy pumice]

that would be 2div then

[halcyon jasper]

I see,

[hardy pumice]

and yea you dont do that, because matrons are 10 times cheaper

[halcyon jasper]

bestiary very cheap eh...

:D

[wraith prawn]

when u have 3 suffixes, the beastcraft can only give u suffixes cannot be changed

so its literally just the price of the matron for that craft

[halcyon jasper]

what about prefixes can't be changed?

same?

[wraith prawn]

its still cheaper, u have to do it 4 times on average

[hardy pumice]

prefix lock is a 1/4 i think

[halcyon jasper]

I see

ty!

[wraith prawn]

because there r 4 metamods it can roll

prefixes|suffixes cannot be changed and cannot roll attack|caster modifiers

[hardy pumice]

could even get the multimod and try another matron with 1/3, insane value

[wraith prawn]

i dont think matron can roll multimod

[hardy pumice]

why not

[wraith prawn]

im not sure i just dont think it can, but that may have been one of the 7000 changes to bestiary they made due to some obscure bug it caused

[hardy pumice]

not that i ever tried using matron on an open suffix item

and honestly i dont know anyone who actually crafts items that way

even if on average its cheaper than 2div

that is too much effort

[wraith prawn]

i know several people who have tried and then immediately gave up

lmfao

[hardy pumice]

sounds about right

[wraith prawn]

its good at leaguestart for profit crafting i suppose

[hardy pumice]

not sure, havent looked at matron prices on league start

[wraith prawn]

but other than that most ppl dont care ab the extra ~1 div

[hardy pumice]

since matrons are only in t16 maps i cant imagine they're very abundant

[wraith prawn]

i assume it also depends how fast u start leagues

[hardy pumice]

this league i remember matrons being pretty damn expensive early on, something like 1.2div

[wraith prawn]

theres probably a lot of ppl who do it at the start of the league but not at the very start

i could also probably just find data on that somewhere

instead of guessing

[hardy pumice]

but thats still like week 2 or something, not exactly early

whatever, i guess its a thing to keep on the radar

prefix lock from matron still sounds like a meme

[hardy pumice]

nothing on the wiki suggests multimod isnt available

[hardy pumice]

that graph looks like it sure went up fast

[wraith prawn]

yep

thats what i mean by depends how fast u start ur league

i make dogshit woke orbed swords like hour 8 of league cause everyone kills sirus and nobody has any reason to use woke orbs yet so theyre 2 alch shards

[hardy pumice]

if i have money that early im buying veil exalts not tryna invest in matrons for prefix lock ngl

[wraith prawn]

veil ex method tried and true as of late

personally last league i made a disastrous economic speculation and lost a mirror on like day 5 then quit cause the league was bad anyways so nowadays i tend not to invest in anything atypical

[hardy pumice]

insane vaal street investor

[wraith prawn]

??? the metamod page does but not the beastcraft for it

ok i need to test this

FUCK im so poor

@hardy pumice ok so the metamod wiki page is just lying it can roll

[hardy pumice]

go try using another one

if it turns rare we are so back

[wraith prawn]

oh i see the vision

im busy editing the wiki to stop LYING !!

[hardy pumice]

you can do that?

i didnt even know it was open to just anyone to edit

[wraith prawn]

looking at the edit history of this page is really funny cause im friends with like 70% of the names im seeing

[wraith prawn]

now i havbe this stupid fucking bow

im keeping it

fuck dude i got 10 chaos and 2000 beasts to my name now whatever faustus will give me my money back Eventually™

[halcyon jasper]

how do you guys know what to craft for profit, like stuff you don't need for your character but other might want it

[hardy pumice]

some things are the same every league, some change, you just open poe ninja and see what people are playing and what rares they're using

a LOT of people just copy some streamers build, so knowing what popular creators are playing also helps

[wraith prawn]

for me personally a lot of it is just knowing certain builds rly well that stick around for a while

[hardy pumice]

something like a tri ele bow, high defence prefix armour, flicker strike gloves - you can just craft every league with no market checking and its gonna be good

for flavour of the league builds poe ninja has you covered

[wraith prawn]

every now and then u can be rewarded for super obscure knowledge but generally u just craft whatever is meta

sometimes a youtuber puts out a craft and theyre realyl bad at crafting so u can profit craft on that too (if u know how to do it better)

[wraith prawn]

for instance this which i made more of because im poor now

[serene meadow]

@wraith prawn it took 350 imprints but its done lol. horrible craft

[wraith prawn]

gg noobs

[hardy pumice]

i will never understand these jewels honestly

[serene meadow]

this was made to burn currency for no reason

cause im bored

[hardy pumice]

i get spending a mirror on a perfect small cluster - they're incredibly hard to make. I get spending a mirror on some weapon

but i dont get spending a mirror on a large cluster

ur paying a mirror for 4 crit multi

just get a regular one without synth for 1/20th the price, surely not even the most insane 100 mirror in stash giga baller would mirror one of these

[stuck fulcrum]

Bros just got a lot of F-you money, let him spend it🤣

[serene meadow]

exactly lol

and im gonna mirror it twice now

and be done with the league

[hardy pumice]

damn

all that work to not even give it a spin??

[stuck fulcrum]

I died 7 times on HC, now trying to sell all my stuff on SC and have some fun

[serene meadow]

this is basically cosmetic anyways

just wanted a cool large cluster

lol

[hardy pumice]

also i didnt mean to like diminish the value of your effort, its a great league end project, i just see large clusters in mirror shops so often and i never really understood the point

[serene meadow]

no i 100% agree with you, mirroring large clusters is the worst investment someone can make on a build probably

did not take it as that

[wraith prawn]

ive seen a few builds where people are at the state where they basically can only corrupt uniques or mirror items to improve

and eventually they mirror 3synth large clusters as part of that

[hardy pumice]

thats common enough, but synth large clusters gotta be like dead last on the list of upgrades

[wraith prawn]

and they are admittedly pretty few and far between

[hardy pumice]

i dont even know what would be lower value

id mirror a heist trinket before one of these

[wraith prawn]

but the ppl who are at that point are also probably the most likely to have mirrors to do it so theyd give u like 4 mirror fees' worth for +16% multi or whatever

having said all that yeah i agree its kinda the final upgrade

i think even some giga expensive items (flat str + %str mageblood comes to mind) are better investments per-mirror despite costing way more

[hardy pumice]

oh yea in a league where you can buy a perfect dual shrine belt for 20 mirrors

id rather save up for it

some people out there probably dont even need to save

thats the ones who mirror a large cluster

[wraith prawn]

have u seen the korean int stack reave pob this league

[hardy pumice]

no

gotta be crazy if u mention it

[wraith prawn]

fuckers got corrupted rare items and its not even like a meme

this

thats the sorta person doing it

[hardy pumice]

those boots must have been real annoying to make huh

[wraith prawn]

theyll probably upgrade them eventually

if u go week by week they keep like re-crafting the items and corrupting them again for better corruptions (???)

[hardy pumice]

did they really get the esh bloodline

just for the 30 int, thats it

[wraith prawn]

yep

[hardy pumice]

thats the craziest part about it

[wraith prawn]

i played around in pob and its actually more dmg for them to put in a raise spectre in both weapon sets, and weapon swap vaal reave for stacks, then use farrul bloodline

they just do that +30 int because they want 5k int

[hardy pumice]

oh yea that chest piece gotta be next on the chopping block

just 40% damage corrupt? weak sauce

[wraith prawn]

i think ive never seen a pob like this outside of standard

[hardy pumice]

and boots i think can roll +1 endurance charge

[wraith prawn]

im really curious how much it costs

yea they can

+1 all may be better than the endu charge tho, precision + empower + eclipse lvl is giga for them

[hardy pumice]

why is that ambush even there

nobody uses that do they

is it just for pob number inflation

[wraith prawn]

possibly

this may be the greatest pob warrior of a generation

apart from the guy with like 100 billion dps

[hardy pumice]

that gotta be the empyrean build

specifically made for pob warrioring

[wraith prawn]

theres presumably some bug in poe ninja causing this

[hardy pumice]

thats probably the empy build

they got a video on exactly how they set it up to inflate dps as much as possible while also having a completely nonfuctional build

[wraith prawn]

yeah but thats all gone now

hang on im opening this in pob and seeing wtf the bug causing this is

[hardy pumice]

i believe one of the big reasons its so broken is they use those "grants X aura" corrupts which for some reason count as active auras in pob

but really they dont work at all

[wraith prawn]

ok this is a good sign

this feels wrong

im not entirely sure how the skill works but 900 stages of any skill seems incorrect

[hardy pumice]

damn, they got a marylenes and its not even volatiled

sad

[wraith prawn]

ok these are INCREDIBLY based shoes

why is this fucking 900 here

what is causing poeninja to put that there lmfao

126m or even like 1.2b dps feels perfectly normal here

[hardy pumice]

the 900 is just because they specified it at 900

it doesnt go beyond 900 in pob so thats just as high as it gets

it should just mean "hits per cast"

blade blast detonates blades, some of them overlap on the same target, this is the number of that

though i believe it says up to 50 blades can be detonated per cast, so anything above 50 shouldnt even work? even with greater spell echo you're still only detonating 150 maximum

that makes me wonder why is it even capped at 900

specifically 900 is a weird number to cap it at

[sick idol]

I want to craft a medium cluster with wrapped in flame + powerful assault

what is the best method to do this

I dont know how to find the index values of these and therefore dont know which one is better to buy fractured, or alternatively, I could split this into two medium clusters with one wrapped in flame + towering thread and one powerful assault + towering threat

[unreal egret]

https://poedb.tw/us/Medium_Cluster_Jewel#EnchantmentModifiers

[sick idol]

do you happen to know how ilvl works

do i need a ilvl 84 ?

for it to be easier or does it not matter

[wraith prawn]

u can get those notables at super low ilvls, like ilvl68 iirc

[unreal egret]

if you want notables you dont want i84

since it dilutes the pool

[wraith prawn]

ilvl 83 vs 84 is for t1 normal points

[unreal egret]

https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe1&b=153&lv=83&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=22&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={"limit":88}&gns={}

@sick idol

[compact phoenix]

the secret to not being poor

craft something that sells and craft a lot of it till the market dies

[pulsar arch]

`||Item Class: Amulets
Rarity: Rare
Eagle Medallion
Onyx Amulet

Requirements:
Level: 65

Item Level: 85

+12 to all Attributes (implicit)

10% increased Strength
15% increased Area of Effect
Suffixes Cannot Be Changed (crafted)

Elder Item
Warlord Item
||`

Does anyone the best way to make this 3nn suffix 1 nn prefix ? with str as a must

know*

usually i go for str suffix cannot be channged then reroll chaos for the dot multi

but here is now 1 nn prefix and suffix and if i reroll the prefix gets changed, can i avoid this somehow ?

[short folio]

quick tutorial on how to craft these

[hardy pumice]

awk orb two prefixes, lock prefix reforge life, lock prefix reforge speed, add lvl30 aspect and bench craft

alternatively beast lock awk orb for high tier life, then do the rest the same way

i usually do beast locks

[short folio]

Ok tyy

[short folio]

Ok my dear friend i have some extra follow up questions for you

How do i reforge Twice and how would i add level 30 aspect please and thanks

[hardy pumice]

well you lock prefix and reforge once, then lock prefix reforge again

i dont recommend this method honestly, beast lock is superior

but thats the idea anyway

[short folio]

ok yeah beast locking it is

[hardy pumice]

and aspects are added in beasiary, there is a beast craft that literally just adds a lvl30 aspect

look it up

[short folio]

ah i see thanks

[short folio]

When would i orb of dominance for +2 Vaal strikes @hardy pumice

[unreal egret]

Before the woke orb

You beast lock a magic base with +2

Then get bases with frenzy to hover with beast

Until t1 Life

[molten herald]

i have 50% global defence non-frac grasping mail and 28 quality twilight regalia. what steps i should follow to transfer global defence to twilight regalia ?

[hardy pumice]

show the mail

its really important to see all the mods on it

unless its really just the global def and thats it

[molten herald]

1 p 3s

[hardy pumice]

good

then just use the nn essence tech to transfer it

[molten herald]

i use armour essence on regalia and 1p 3s

and slam ?

[hardy pumice]

you dont care about the suffix

but yea thats the plan

[molten herald]

oh okay

lets try

[hardy pumice]

you can also use a non-quality regalia

once you transfer the global def mod to any other base than the grasping mail, it's basically 100% safe, all the further recombs will never lose that mod with correct setup

which means its sometimes good to just transfer it to any regalia first, then transfer to overquality

but its up to you, really theres not much of a difference

[molten herald]

well 28 regalia is lil expensive

okay thank you sir

[hardy pumice]

thats the point, you can first transfer to a cheap base, then start transfering to the expensive one, but at least now your global def mod is 100% safe

so you dont have to risk both the global def and the expensive regalia at the same time

[molten herald]

!giverep @hardy pumice

[hardy pumice]

you should probably show the recomb bases when you set them up, to make sure everything's in order

[molten herald]

well first step is done

now i will transfer it with same essence strat ?

[hardy pumice]

yes

now its safe at least, gl

[molten herald]

okay thank you

last question

if i use ilvl 84 regalia with overquality, will it share ilvls??

like 90 - 84 so 87 or whatever

or should i just use ilvl 86

[wraith prawn]

avg[1,2]+2

actually i forget if its hard capped on the level of the original

but either way 84+86 gives u 86(at least*)

[molten herald]

thank you sir

[wraith prawn]

u have to win the 50/50 to get the base with quality

but the quality base can be any ilvl as long as the other base is high enough ilvl to bring the output to 86

cause the ilvl can be modified

[thick dust]

help me pls

[unreal egret]

Find the original
Use mirror
Pay fee
Enjoy your item

[short folio]

how do i orb of dominance the item and keep it magic so i can beast lock it after , also how do i awakener orb frenzy charges with +10% chance aswell

[unreal egret]

You either get a magic item that has the mod
Or you roll the mod on your preferred base with augs
Then imprint it with prefix lock crafted
Then use a regal and hope it’s not a prefix
Reforge into another influenced mod (check what’s available)
Orb of dominance
Hopefully get no other prefix or anull
Then prefix lock and scour for a magic base with upgraded mod
Same for the frenzy (but do you need the 10%?)

[short folio]

im not entirely sure if i need the 10%

i think so though

[halcyon jasper]

How to craft these?=

I suppose frac suppresss spell then roll eiehter dex or str ess, Searing exarch then block mana ?

[ripe dome]

do i roll over this or sell it?

[wraith prawn]

yea, u could also suffix lock veiled chaos for MS then slam and pray for life

mana wouldn't be the right thing to block tho

str/dex cant roll mana

[halcyon jasper]

I see

[wraith prawn]

% armour + evasion is the right block

[halcyon jasper]

I'll try veil chaos

first streength dex right then remove prefixes lock with beast then veil

I guess

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

u dont need to remove all prefixes as long as u have 1 open

cause veil chaos acts like a chaos orb

it doesnt replace 1 mod, it rerolls all mods but guarantees 1 is veiled

like this is fine for veiled chaos

[halcyon jasper]

ah

I see so veil chaos first then roll dex str

[wraith prawn]

no

[halcyon jasper]

huh

xd

oh it might become veil suiffix then

[wraith prawn]

base with fractured suppress
roll str/dex with either str or dex essence
suffix lock, veiled chaos

all im saying is u dont need to fully clear prefixes before u veiled chaos

[halcyon jasper]

ah yes

[wraith prawn]

as long as u have suffixes cannot be changed and ur suffixes r done, itll work

[halcyon jasper]

I takes a random prefix to veil

thx :)

[wraith prawn]

its like a ~9% chance or so to slam t2/t1 life if u block %armour|evasion

which isnt great but its still pretty cheap for what mods u end up with

[halcyon jasper]

yup

got this now :)

noe veil and then block armour evasion

[wraith prawn]

unlucky

[halcyon jasper]

now annul into veil then block slam?

eld annul

[wraith prawn]

yeah eldritch annul, unveil will (almost?) always give u move speed, then block slam

[halcyon jasper]

let's see

[wraith prawn]

its a 1 in 4 chance of having to eldritch annul which is why i said unlucky

[halcyon jasper]

ah it's gone

xD

veil is gone ;_;

[wraith prawn]

unlucky go agane

also why r u on dragonscale and not wyvernscale

cheaper base?

[halcyon jasper]

Ah I see there is better base, but don't have any ccy atm xd

will recraft ltarer

later

FYI done, cost maybe 1-2 div

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[wraith prawn]

not great life but can always recraft later if u need

ggnoobs

[leaden radish]

I wanna protect the last mod which is to global crit and add one of 2 which is to critical strike multiplier with two handed melee weapons or to melee critical strike multi any advise?

[hardy pumice]

theres no real advice possible

just slam exalt and hope

when crafting these you dont really have many options

spam reforge or fossils on a fractured base with exalts-annuls when needed

[leaden radish]

Sadge : (

Ty tho

[leaden radish]

Thank you 🙂

I got a better mod hehe

[hardy pumice]

that looks pretty bad to me

crit chance and %damage is usually not what you want to see on those jewels

but if you want it, sure

[lone zodiac]

Guys just want to ask how do you put 3 implicit in cluter jewels?

[hardy pumice]

synth

u either buy a 3 synth one then roll them with vultures, or use the harvest craft that adds synth to jewels until you hit 3 implicits, then again roll with vultures

and if the base jewel is expensive, you can imprint it before synthing so you can reattempt it

[lone zodiac]

Vultures do what? Reroll the implicit?

[hardy pumice]

yes

one at a time, for a very high price

its not a craft method any normal player uses, its for mirror shops, and the price is based around that

last i checked it was over 5divines per one vulture and you usually need hundreds or even thousands to roll what you need, and thats just the first step of the craft

[lone zodiac]

Why i needed to imprint? If i can reroll again?

[hardy pumice]

well the vulture just picks one random synth mod and rerolls it

it cant add a synth mod

so if you synth an item and it rolls 1 implicit instead of 3, you are stuck with just 1 forever

so the first step is usually to get 3 implicits, then you start rolling them

[lone zodiac]

I see, if i got 3 mod, vulture will reroll 3 or just random to 1-3?

[hardy pumice]

just one

it will reroll one implicit per beast

[lone zodiac]

Damn

[hardy pumice]

which is also why you need imprints for that step, its RNG which mod it rerolls

which means if you roll say tier1 crit multi, and want to also roll something else alongside it, you will have to imprint the jewel in that state, and then roll more vultures

and whenever the vulture removes your crit multi, you have to restore imprint and try again

[lone zodiac]

So even with 3 mods, vulture can make it 1? Right?

[hardy pumice]

no

with 3 mods it will just pick one of them at random to change to something else

it will remain 3, just one will be rerolled

[lone zodiac]

Ah alright i got it now thanks alot

[bold raven]

need help, willing to not use lightning essence (scorn/dread/woe instead) if it makes the craft easier

[hardy pumice]

this looks like it really sucks to make

i honestly dont see a good way

[wraith prawn]

^

i do have one absolutely attrocious idea i need to test before i commit to that ^ though

FUCK my Cool Idea™ doesnt work the way i hoped

[wraith prawn]

ok i got it to work but its probably too expensive to justify lol

[somber crow]

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[compact phoenix]

just use whittlings

🚬

[marsh grail]

Is there a tool out there that will alt/aug until you hit a affix you're looking for? my wrist is tired boss.

[compact phoenix]

there are but it comes with a free ban if its detected

[marsh grail]

Is that a likely even tho? Do they really care that much 😐

[compact phoenix]

yea

exhibit 1 is probably somewhere in this discords announcements

[marsh grail]

alright then, dang. I'll keep clickin'

[split silo]

hello sir
how can i craft this body?

[west vessel]

Hey guys, just dropped this. How do I craft this for profit.

[wraith prawn]

u mirror it

that 8% mod makes it really horrible to work with

ur best bet on a similar chest would be to use a crusader or a crusader|shaper base instead of crusader|elder, put strands on it, dense+corroded+fundamental probably, up-tier it, and craft %attributes

ud miss 2% int, +1 int, and 2% all attributes

but other than that itd be pretty close

[wraith prawn]

it looks like u rly just want kinda normal shield stuff on a frenzy shield. block/spellblock/life/suppress/dd sorta thing

u dont have a str base so u cant get pdr or crit reduce

[undone spade]

how do u craft the area of effect essence mod onto this?

is it after awakener orb?

i dont think so right

[unreal egret]

This is just insane amount of recomb tries
You don’t craft this without a couple dozen locks otherwise

Mirroring it is your best bet

If this was made without recombs that would be even more insane

You would need to finish suffixes
Then prefixes with explode elevated
Basically you lock slam for the other t1s

[split silo]

It seems like it's going to be expensive xD

thank you

[broken ether]

hows this thing crafted , without the gain mana mod

[pulsar arch]

Does anyone know the best method of removing the gain life suffix and add a non native suffix ?

[unreal egret]

crit essence for all res, then lock suffix and reforge for other res or keep spamming

[unreal egret]

you cant remove it without risking the other mods

[pulsar arch]

ye i see, thanks tho

[unreal egret]

#🔨│crafting-help message

np 😊

[robust spear]

anyone know of any good resources for crafting items for fub's budget BV elementalist herald stacker build? Trying to learn more crafting methods this league but am still at a pretty basic level

[hardy pumice]

unless he included craft guides in his pob (often enough he does), you're gonna have to ask here specifically for each item, or search for similar item crafts explained

[robust spear]

ahh OK thanks, I looked for videos but didn't think to check the POB notes which is, in retrospect, stupid

I'll check that out and then look for more specific things after. In general do you have a recommendation about how to identify the appropriate search criteria for items? In my limited crafting this league I've found that sometimes a small variation can make something exponentially more difficult to craft (or require a different method entirely)

so how does one identify the key criteria to search for?

or is that just something that takes experience to guess at

[hardy pumice]

if the item is influenced, double influenced, fractured, synthesized, thats probably the first thing to look at

already tells you a lot about it

then you can look at the specific mods, if they are essence mods, special delve/incursion/grasping mail/whatever mods

just knowing that is already enough to make a good guess on how the item was crafted, because e.g. when you see an essence mod you can be sure it involved essence spam, if you see grasping mail mod you know it was recombination, if its double influenced you know it was awakener orb

[robust spear]

thanks, very helpful

and yeah, sadly no notes on the "budget" gear

[compact phoenix]

is it a fubgun budget of 1 mirror

[hardy pumice]

likely

his guides are budget when he makes them, then when he posts them a few days later its already not budget, and weeks later its mirror+

gotta be an early adopter to actually get items for low prices

[robust spear]

yeah, although this one actually doesn't look too bad. probably 500-750 div depending on crafting luck

[ripe dome]

do i lock pref veiled exalt for movement speed? or do i veiled chaos orb? i havent crafted boots since they added the exalted orb

[wraith prawn]

if u lock prefix veiled chaos, there's a 50/50 chance of it being a prefix or suffix, and if it is a suffix there's a chance the item fills but it probably™ wont

veiled ex wouldnt rly be good here

prefix lock means u can still add a mod, e.g. veiled mod from veiled chaos, it just means the mods that are already there wont be changed

[ripe dome]

thank you very much!

[inner steeple]

Bro, he just needs to raise his World Eater Influence, and then he can cast Veiled Chaos until he hits the prefix. It'll be cheaper than spending a million currency on a veiled ex

[wraith prawn]

wtf are u even talking ab

i said veiled ex wouldn't be good

also no, even if you can eldritch annul off a suffix you can't just keep trying veiled chaos because there's a chance the prefixes fill when you hit veiled suffix, atp you have to redo the prefixes (which aren't hard in this case, but still)

[inner steeple]

Then I'm sorry, I'm not a native English speaker, I misunderstood you.

[icy dawn]

how do you craft unique blight-ravaged map?

[wraith prawn]

chance orb

[broken ether]

can i craft this without recomb

or+2 to all gems instead of phys to fire

[hardy pumice]

no

well i mean yea but gl ever hitting it

recomb should be the only real way

[broken ether]

eh gg i already lost 3 bases im cursed

[robust spear]

OK, so trying to craft something like this. One idea would be to fracture the abyssal socket, essence spam for double res, then lock suffixes and veiled chaos until you hit cold or lightning conversion, then eldritch annul down to just that mod, lock suffixes and add life, hoping to erase the metamod. If fail, go back to the veiled chaos step. That seems like it would be really rough as the odds of getting the unveil and sticking the annul are somewhere between 1 in 6 and 1 in 9, then the odds of hitting T1 life are only like 3%, so 1.5% chance of getting T1 life and removing the metamod, or twice that if you accept T2. So that's somewhere between 200 veiled chaos + 200 wild bristle + 2-400 eldritch annul, ~600k pink juice and 33 sacred blossoms and 300 veiled chaos/wild bristle/3-600 eldritch annul, 900k pink juice and 50 sacred blossoms. That

oops, hit enter too soon

that's like 260 div on the low end not to mention the time in processing all of those wild bristle matrons

Given that these are selling in the 80-100 div range, I have to think there is a much better way to craft this

[covert star]

Yeah, abyssal socket fractured would make it much cheaper and easier

[robust spear]

the math i did was for abyssal socket fracture

[covert star]

Ohh, then idk about a better way

Doesnt sound like a 260 divs craft tho

You could always use a veiled ex after max life if u dont want to tepeat veiled chaos tons of times

Also, the only currency that removes a mod is the veiled ex one

Veiled chaos just reforges it

[robust spear]

in the example craft the horticraft removes a mod

[covert star]

Which harvest craft u intend to do?

[robust spear]

would be add a new life modifier and remove another random modifier

although that might not even work as you need to add exarch influence for eldritch annul

[covert star]

Does that exist for sure? Isnt reforge life the only one?

[robust spear]

no

add a new life and remove a mod is in there, it's 17.5k pink and a sacred blossom

there are a bunch of horticraft options like that

but yeah you could veiled ex. It would still be brutal though as you'd need to go through the process of fishing for T1 or maybe T2 life (which would take 30-60 interations on average, locking suffixes each time

[covert star]

Doesnt sound worth at all, i dont know about actual prices, but i crafted many of thoes

[robust spear]

then you'd need to annul down to just the life mod

[covert star]

With just veiled chaos + eldrotch craft

[robust spear]

and then hit the 50/50 with veiled ex which are stupid expensive

[covert star]

And nowhere close to 260 divs craft cost

[robust spear]

yeah that's what makes me think i am missing something

[covert star]

Or just eldritch crafting

[robust spear]

Ohh that would be just spam eldritch chaos until you hit T1 life?

[covert star]

Pretty much

Yup

[wraith prawn]

fracture abyss, reforge life for t1, prefix lock veiled chaos, unveil convert, craft convert, then slam funny annul for t1 t2+ res

u could funny ex slam if u wanna block dex to make it a bit faster

[robust spear]

funny annul?

[wraith prawn]

eldritch

[covert star]

Sounds like the cheapest way

[robust spear]

do you mean eldritch chaos?

[wraith prawn]

no

[robust spear]

i thought eldritch annul just removes mods

[wraith prawn]

you have 4 mods atp the odds of eldritch chaos doing anything is only 1 in 4

use exalt

[covert star]

It does

[wraith prawn]

then use funny annul

if its not good

[robust spear]

ohh i see

[wraith prawn]

its annoying but way cheaper

if u use funny exalt u can also block a suffix before u slam (cant with normal ex bc u need a crafted prefix)

[robust spear]

and if you prefix lock veiled chaos the veiled mod isn't guaranteed to be a veiled suffix?

[covert star]

You can either get pref or suffix

That would be 50/50 as none will be filled

Unless you fill them

Snd then eldritch craft

[robust spear]

OK, just thought that lock prefixes might prevent the veiled chaos from giving you a prefix

[wraith prawn]

ur gonna have to annul at some point so that u have 2 open prefixes + an open suffix

[covert star]

That way you get a secured pref

[wraith prawn]

cannot be changed means cannot change what's already there

u can add stuff tho

[robust spear]

ahh

[covert star]

Also use some eldrotch ex for the suffixes and fill them (just 2 so you can craft pref lock)

Oh, nvm

[wraith prawn]

doesnt work

[covert star]

It will reforge suffixes

[wraith prawn]

but if ex ~= eldritch ex price, what u can do is like

sec

[covert star]

Yeah, just noticed

[wraith prawn]

lets say ur at this stage

open prefix to craft in, suffixes ready to be done

if eldritch ex is relatively cheap then u can use those instead and block a suffix

cause this way itll never fill ur prefix

its not great odds honestly even with a block (~10% to get t2+ res on ur first slam, ~6% on ur 2nd)

the other way to craft these would be to go through the same process but in reverse, starting with suffixes, then funny currency for t1 life, but then ud have to suffix lock -> veiled ex 50/50

so ur weighing 2x veiled ex vs like ~200 funny annuls

[robust spear]

working on wrapping my head around all this

with the reforge life into prefix lock veiled chaos -- when you hit the reforge life, you need to have just life for prefixes and one open suffix before you veiled chaos, yeah? So you'd need to annul off any excess prefixes that get generated before you chaos yes?

[wraith prawn]

fracture abyss -> reforge life for t1 life -> annul down to 1 prefix + open suffix -> prefixes cannot be changed veil chaos 50/50 to get veiled prefix, annul a 3rd prefix if u get one, block PDR focused to unveil, then make it eater-dominant, clean suffixes, craft dex, eldritch exalt, if its not t2+ res then un-craft dex and eldritch annul; if it is t2+ res then uncraft dex and eldritch ex again, prayge. u can eldritch annul to try and save the res if u miss but its just kinda slam annul repeat

[wraith prawn]

yes

@robust spear if you wanna see the exact process i used you can go into craftofexile, emulator, restore saved item, and put this in.
*you'll probably have to save this as a .txt to open it all, CoE generates enormous amounts of text

then u can scroll up through history and see

[robust spear]

Thanks

And just to be clear, you don't think it would be more efficient to fracture life and fossil craft the suffixes? I know next to nothing about fossil crafting

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

hollow fossil is usually very expensive, i guess you can compare the price to the odds of hitting t2+ res on both suffixes if youd want

yeah it depends on hollow fossil price vs funny annul price atm, usually funny annul would be way better but i cba to log in to check prices rn

[covert star]

Prob many divs per fossil, so i wouldnt say its better at all

Unless there is a high chances fossil combinationbut you would have to check that in craft of exile computing prob

[robust spear]

ok yeah, i just simulated the best fossil methods that i could guess and they all are terrible

hollow+prismatic+sanctified was the best and it was a 120D on average craft

[covert star]

Yeah, figured, fossils can be amazing but also lame many times

It has to be a very specific craft for multi fossils to be worth it if u using expensive ones

But checking just in case its always worth it

[wraith prawn]

if u use 1 expensive fossil u should use other fossils

but usually for hollow fossils the easiest way to do it is to just fracture the mod and then use different fossils or essence to start

for smth like the int/%int/abyss helm u use strands and spam but thats not super common

[covert star]

Usually yeah

[covert star]

Yup, thats exactly what i did with my gear

[covert star]

Minion +2 wands are also better with fossils, but there arent many cases for it to be worth

[wraith prawn]

which wand

i dont play m*nion builds sorry

[covert star]

I dont remember the exact mods, one that Ghazzy uses in every league pretty much hahahahaha

I think it was +1 minion skill gems and +1 int skill gems

[wintry sleet]

Can someone help me on crafting the str stack amulet?

[hardy pumice]

just watch spicysushi guide for it

[wintry sleet]

I watched it but I'm not sure what to do on crafting astrolabe

I did something but Im not sure if its right or not

[robust spear]

yeah, just in this case the point would be to let you fracture the life to make the prefixes easy. just in this case it doesn't actually help anything XD

[hardy pumice]

show it then, maybe we can figure it out

[wintry sleet]

do you want me to pm the items ig or send it here?

[hardy pumice]

here

[tiny bison]

hey lads, i'm trying to add two prefixes to my ring :
"+X to maximum ES" and "Minions deal % increased damage"

is there an "easy" way to do it or is it full RNG with exalts from now on ?

[hardy pumice]

you would have to lock suffix reforge minion for the minion damage, then yolo exalt or augment defence for the ES

[tiny bison]

when you use a craft such as "lock suffix" can you lose the spot of the craft ? i don't know how to explain it, but if i can lock - bench craft as many times as I want in a row i'm fine, but if it then forces me to annul... :S i'm afraid lol

[hardy pumice]

it can force you to annul

the reforge minion part

[tiny bison]

ok tyvm

I've tried my luck with 8 hinekora's after finishing my ring, to try and mirror it with a reflecting mist. All of them were terrible, so in the end i've lost 3 mirrors which took me months to farm. I'm uninstalling, GL Ebony and thanks again for your time. Take care.

[covert star]

Yeah, ref mist unless you are rich af is usually not a good idea if looking for all positives

soldier, you did well this league, hope to see you here on next one

[wraith prawn]

what you were going for is absurdly rare just so you know, 6 positives is not well documented but is presumably in the realm of 250+ locks|mists

[compact phoenix]

only 8

🤣

if youre looking for 4 pos mods, its gonna cost way more than that

[smoky nacelle]

how do I craft this one guys?

[elder elbow]

You need at least 2 amulets-1 focused and 1+ any base amulets with influence. One with Elder influence, the second with Hunter. Buy the more expensive one and craft 1 needed influence mod on it (this amulet must be the Focused Amulet) (either Area of Effect or Movespeed). For this to work, the amulet must be magic, not rare. Beastcraft an imprint on it.
Then buy or craft an amulet on any base, but with your needed second mod. Use Orb of Conflict to transfer the needed mod to the Focused Amulet. Ideally, you'll have 2 prefixes left, but if all 3 mods are there, try annulling a suffix. If it fails and a needed mod gets removed, imprint and Orb of Conflict again.
Once you have the amulet with Area of Effect + Movespeed, benchcraft Prefixes Cannot Be Changed, then with 1/12 chance do a Crit Reforge. If it fails, annul and repeat the steps.

or there is a second option, it is simpler, but most likely you will lose a lot of money. I can't check the price, but it should be more expensive

[robust spear]

Trying to get 2x of: T1-2 res , T1 spell suppression on this. Is there a better way than craft dex, eldritch ex, remove dex, eldritch annul, craft dex, eldritch ex etc. etc. etc.

can be any combo of res/suppression

[hardy pumice]

no

thats basically your only way and its really bad, usually i see people work on prefixes last

[broken ether]

how would i craft these , the cold can be any res

[weak sparrow]

how do i craft this?^^

[robust spear]

Yeah, in this case doing prefixes last would have been awful having to either lock suffixes and reforge life repeatedly, then annul off the excess prefixes, then hit the 50/50 veiled ex and then unveil the target mod (which granted is a very high probability) or do veiled chaos and then the add life horticraft hoping to hit t1 life AND not hit the unveiled mod. Both methods are stupidly expensive and would require like 200+ trips to the menagerie

which i think is actually more awful than the eldritch suffix crafting

[smoky nacelle]

!giverep @elder elbow

[somber crow]

@elder elbow, you have been promoted to Trusted Service Provider!

[robust spear]

@smoky nacelle you probably already picked this up but I think the person who responded meant Awakener's Orb not Orb of Conflict

[weak sparrow]

can someone help me craft this?

[elder elbow]

Yes
Sirus orb

[broken ether]

do i just reforge elemental and annul exalt when needed or is there better way

[hexed kiln]

hi, how to craft those? mostly unsure about how to get endurance on kill

[covert star]

there must be another way, but seems totally like a lucky af slam

as that mod doesn't have even any tag

[hexed kiln]

yea i was thinking about that, i think i just skip this mod and try without it

or 1 in 7 reforge influence but i guess there is no point

[broken ether]

do suffixes then suffix cant change with beast and then add mod to hunter\elder item with beast and repeat til hit

[covert star]

yeah, was thinking about that too locking either suff/pref

prob suffixes as suk4 said

[elder elbow]

If you need 35 movespeed and endurki, then it's too expensive.
There are too many ways to get charges, so it's easier to change the build a bit.

[covert star]

and then if u removed the MS, slam until u get MS/Life

and craft the remaining one

can be kinda expensive but you already have a method better than slamming and praying at least

[hexed kiln]

i guees i will just go with t1 life and veiled exalt ms

and craft some prefix

[covert star]

that prob sounds even more expensive

and not secured as you could remove life and having to start all over

[covert star]

you could also do this, once you got that mod, slam veiled ex and have more odds of MS

then crafting life

but i find it very expensive to do

[broken ether]

i have those exact boots

u dont even need the endurance charge on kill just look for like and move speed

u dont need veiled exalt , move speed an life quite common

[hexed kiln]

and this beast craft it just adds a random mod?

[elder elbow]

suffixes are easy to make. And if you just want hp+movespeed, then it's easy too.

[covert star]

wouldnt it be the same as an ex?

[elder elbow]

Its just exalt

[hexed kiln]

i see, just didnt understand the message about " then add mod to hunter\elder item with beast and repeat til hit"

[covert star]

it means use the craft that removes a random modifier and adds a random influenced modifier

[hexed kiln]

but then how i hit life and ms, just exalt till i hit double t1? sound worse

[covert star]

you will have suff cannot be changed and it will be the only removed one

[elder elbow]

If you don't need a resist, then this craft will be much cheaper

[broken ether]

am i just being unlucky or why can i not for whatever reason refract this to axe and sword damage

[hexed kiln]

i will need it but i think i wont have problems with suffixes, i am just thinking about prefixes

[elder elbow]

I'm talking about them too. There is a beast that removes 1 prefix and adds 1 suffix. He can save you 1 time if you roll 3pref

anyway, you make 2 suffixes at the beginning. After that, if you need a resist, it will be expensive to change the 3 prefixes, since you may not be lucky with the anull

[hexed kiln]

i will try to awakener into t1 res with beast lock

but now the problem, is to even roll the tailwind itself. such low weight

[broken ether]

yea so for some reason this isnt possible

[hexed kiln]

how many you spent?

[broken ether]

50

[hexed kiln]

i also could hit anything on average with fogs

[hexed kiln]

thats bad

[broken ether]

yep

idk how this guy has it

[elder elbow]

In theory, it's easier to just buy and use scouring

[hexed kiln]

Probably will do that

[elder elbow]

Nah
Suf lock and reforge cuz u need 2 inf mods

Or just buy it
Lol

[hardy pumice]

you just got unlucky

[hexed kiln]

xd should i keep or i dont need the endurance?, was first lock awakener

t2 res is sad

[hardy pumice]

is it stranded

[hexed kiln]

sadly no

[hardy pumice]

then t2 res is very lucky

[hexed kiln]

i mean i can keep it, anyway making those for myself. but do i really need this endurance. Still quite nice

[elder elbow]

I would choose hp and movespeed instead of Endur

There are just too many ways to get them

[hexed kiln]

i also though so, still i am using this thing

but was just lucky had to think for a moment

[elder elbow]

I often just take a jewel like a caspiro and there are 1-2 simple nodes For charges. Or something else, there are too many ways.

[hexed kiln]

so in the end, how should i hit life and movespeed after done with suffixes?

[elder elbow]

2 t1mods? Lucky slam
Reforge speed until t1 movespeed and foulborn exalt

Or life reforge+veil ex

[hexed kiln]

I was thinking about that, I do not trust 2 t1 slams

!giverep @elder elbow

[hexed kiln]

done, a bit of settling on t2 life, but i hit it on awakener orb. so not going to complain

[elder elbow]

Gj
Veiled movespeed?

[hexed kiln]

and not the best move speed, but this i am not going to redo)

yea

[elder elbow]

1% off

[robust spear]

This may the the wrong place to say this, but man it would be nice if there were crafting and horticrafting benches in the beastcrafting area. Also, I wish that you could keyboard shortcut to remove crafted mod (like toggling between alt and aug, or alch and scour)

[hexed kiln]

i know will do later, this thing already ate a lot of divines from me

[jagged shadow]

yes, or a beast circle in hideout (or menu takes you straight into circle, then click out like "return to hideout")

I spamed 45 matrons yesterday, it would've been very nice to have 😄

[robust spear]

kill me now

[broken ether]

how would i craft these

[wraith prawn]

fracture abyss socket roll harvest defence or dense fossil for t1/t1 ES, prefix lock veiled chaos, eldritch slam for t1 res craft suppress

[robust spear]

anyone know how to make "and" conditions work on craftofexile? I'm trying to simulate the following procedure:

1. eldritch chaos (check for 2 of a list of target mods), if success then end, if fail continue
2. condition check for 1 of the list of the target mods AND open suffix, if fail restart if success continue
3. eldritch exalt (check for 2 of the list of target mods), if success then go to step 1, if fail restart

The problem is that as soon as it gets to step 2 it's passing to step 3 if the item has 1 target mod and no open suffix. It's just not respecting the and criteria. Any idea what might be happening? I suppose I could workaround by just doing two separate condition check steps but I'd like to figure out why AND doesn't seem to work

I'm also not sure why I don't get the option to end on success on the final step

i tried the workaround and that also fails sometimes. It's sometimes passing the open suffix step when there isn't an open suffix

[somber crow]

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[wraith prawn]

this is what you're looking for, no?

"continue" on the final step ends it, btw

[robust spear]

yeah basically, i did it a bit differently

i have 5 different possible target affixes

so initially i tried the list of target affixes with count: 1 AND open suffix count 1

[wraith prawn]

are u looking for [2 of 5]; if [1 of 5], slam?

[robust spear]

yes, exactly

if 1 of 5 and open affix

the problem is that it was passing items through the check for open suffix

[wraith prawn]

yes

[robust spear]

passing the "and open suffix: 1" even if it doesn't have an open suffix

[wraith prawn]

the count in the top-right of a box checks "how many of the following need to be passed"

so if you have a count of 1, with all 5 suffixes, and an open suffix

then it'll pass with just the open suffx

and it'll pass with just 1 of the suffixes

[robust spear]

when i got rid of the AND and changed it to a separate condition check where it was just checking for open suffix on its own step it would sometimes pass it even without an open affix and sometimes not

ahhh ok

so you have to do a series of OR checks

[wraith prawn]

unless u mean u separately had an AND statement which i never rly use personally

[robust spear]

yes

that's what i did

a separate and statement, just like you separate or statements above

[wraith prawn]

one sec im pretty sure u can make it work a Better Way that i just dont use personally bc i never target that many affixes

yeah this is what ur looking for

except add in all ur mods u target

ur first step should be all 5 mods, count [2] of 5, otherwise check if it's 2 of 5 + open suffix. by definition it cannot be 2 of the 5 mods (since you already ruled those out), so it has to be 1 of 5 + open suffix if it passes

like this

having said this!!! ⚠️ im not sure if count is exact or at least, so you may have to include a copy of the first box in an or statement, with count=3, in case u get 3 affixes ur targeting

[robust spear]

can't get 3 affixes as i have a fractured suffix, but good to note for the future

it's funny i re-wrote it as a list of 5 ORs like you had above

[wraith prawn]

yeah i usually do that when im just going for 2 affixes, i never really check that many because i usually am going for 2 exact mods (although i don't use the simulator often)

[robust spear]

and it still fails to check for the open suffix

i'll try it the way you just suggested

[wraith prawn]

mine isnt having any issues either way, not sure what ur doing thats changing it

[robust spear]

ahh i see a mistake there should be count 2 on step 2

[wraith prawn]

ye

[robust spear]

although oddly it's failing to even correctly get count 1 right as the item it failed on should have registered as count 0

changed it to count to

count 2

got this

[wraith prawn]

it looks like its fucking up ur tiers for some reason

which is fascinating

cause that first one would have passed if u had no minimum tier

[robust spear]

but in the second example it's inconceivable that it would have taken 55 attempts to get one of those mods

and all i changed is the count from 1 to 2

[wraith prawn]

yeah ok the machine is not having it what is it Doing

[robust spear]

so in that case it is respecting the tiers

[wraith prawn]

sorry i never use this part of craftofexile im not super great at debugging it lol

[robust spear]

fair enough!

i didn't think chaos would be more efficient anyway, but if it was close it at least would have saved the need to add and remove dex every time i annul and exalt

so if it was close i might have switched to that

[wraith prawn]

i wanna say the fractured mod might be the issue here but idk

[robust spear]

as it is, back to add dex, slam, remove dex, annul, add dex....

[wraith prawn]

all forms of chaos-orb-adjacent currency first roll a # of mods on the item; 8/12 for 4 mods, 3/12 for 5, and 1/12 for 6 mods

so having prefixes + fractrured suffix makes eldritch chaos act as an eldritch scour 2/3rds of the time

[robust spear]

ahh

[wraith prawn]

tho since u dont have a prefix crafted i guess it'll roll 1 extra suffix mod more often (by which i mean 100% of the time*)
*if i remember how eldritch chaos works properly that is

[robust spear]

ohh man the game is teasing me, on my first attempt after this craftofexile nonsense i hit t1 res on the first slam and then t3 res on the second, so close

stuck the annul twice but no dice, 0/3

well this was not exactly what I was looking for but it's a hit

!giverep @wraith prawn

[topaz shale]

help pls
how to fracture influence mod?

[wraith prawn]

thats not an influence mod

[topaz shale]

ohh

xd

[wraith prawn]

faceted fossil

its easiest to hit if u pair it with corroded (to block ele res), i think either deft or dense would be the best 3rd fossil to block more suffixes. it's not worth 4 fossils bc of how expensive prime resonators r

[topaz shale]

so, if i missed fracture, can i 100% save base and remove fracture?

[wraith prawn]

saving base is always a gamble

[topaz shale]

recomb?

[wraith prawn]

the very first thing recomb does is choose which base it'll be on, and it's a 50/50

there is no way to change that

[topaz shale]

i know

[wraith prawn]

then why do you think you can 100% save the base

[topaz shale]

just asking

[wraith prawn]

if you know it's a 50/50, then you know you can't

[jagged shadow]

I think he means to save a special mod

like a breach mod

right?

[topaz shale]

no, ask about base

[jagged shadow]

I'm just gonna assume a base level of intelligence behind the question

[wraith prawn]

lmfao

[jagged shadow]

with the confusion being in delivery rather than intent

[jagged shadow]

anyway, no, if you miss the fracture, it stays with the base

you can move whatever mod you were targeting to a new base

[topaz shale]

ok, ty so much

[jagged shadow]

it's usually low cost guaranteed way to get the fracture you want

[wraith prawn]

it's possible to keep the base without the fractured mod iirc, it's just that you can't move the fractured mod to a new base

since you can have a mod in the mod pool but not be selected

[jagged shadow]

I can't think of anything other than like 30% quality bases that are fracurable that may be worth more than a high value mod

[wraith prawn]

yeah, but the chest they were showing didnt have any high value mods rly

just fossil +1str

and i assume theres a lot of necrotics more expensive than that

[topaz shale]

thats true

[jagged shadow]

i think ya'll just pushed me towards a new profit craft 😄

looked up the cost of that fractured on even poo base and it's crazy

[topaz shale]

!giverrep @wraith prawn

!giverep @jagged shadow

!giverep @wraith prawn

[wraith prawn]

hm is it

[jagged shadow]

55d on a ilvl 84 base, 100d on a 86 base with basically nothing crafted

[wraith prawn]

wtaf

logging in

actually i think just faceted + corroded is the play maybe

let me check

yep it is

1 in 4

so 16x faceted/corroded + 4x base

[broken ether]

are these worth to just buy for 75d

[wraith prawn]

that sounds absurdly expensive

assuming its not on a 30 base

[broken ether]

both these 75d

[wraith prawn]

oh theyre essence es yeah that's even cheaper lmfao

that is not worth

[broken ether]

so id save money crafting

[wraith prawn]

basically always

[broken ether]

abyss fracture bases arent cheap either tho

[wraith prawn]

why are you buying the base pre-fractured

people sell things for a profit

they dont lose money selling things

[broken ether]

less headache

i guess i can try fracturing 27-28 base

[wraith prawn]

make sure u split it (or are at least buying pre-split) then

this admittedly got lucky but theyre rly easy to craft, especially if u use essence for prefix which i didnt do here

[broken ether]

i dont need to worry about buying base with implicits right

[wraith prawn]

correct

[jagged shadow]

THOSE are 75d???? BRO ya crafting them would be WAY cheaper, like less than 30d all in

[jagged shadow]

buy a 28 base, split into 3

[wraith prawn]

ppl are so averse to crafting i fear

[broken ether]

u dont wanna know abt the precrafted helemt and gloves i bought then

[topaz shale]

make with second try and 10d on fossils

[broken ether]

what was the fossil for abyssal socket

[jagged shadow]

hollow

also the faustus search will pick up words within item descriptions

[broken ether]

so reforge defence or fossil for ES

[jagged shadow]

so if you ever forget but you know you need abyss socket, typing abyss will put it on the list

[wraith prawn]

the way they do it they just spam woe essence for t1 % es

which is 4 flat ES worse but it's way way easier

if u just care about cost then do woe essence

dense fossils can hit t1/t1 pretty easily but its gonna cost u more because fossils r just more expensive in general

and its only 4 flat ES better

[broken ether]

nice good to know

and which resonators am i getting fossils are new to me

[jagged shadow]

just single socket

you do the fracture first

then you do your actual craft

[broken ether]

yep right after i buy a new base cuz i missed 3 fractures like a pro

[wraith prawn]

i mean thats average

[jagged shadow]

with the cost of bases and fracture orbs, that's totally fine though, right?

[broken ether]

i hit it on the 7th

[wraith prawn]

unlucky

[jagged shadow]

money saved 😄

even unlucky

[broken ether]

no it costed me 7d more or smth but wtv

now i just dense spam

[jagged shadow]

or Woe essence

you're fishing for T1 % T1 flat and either force open a prefix with anul, or get one open naturally

[wraith prawn]

goal is {EITHER Essence Flat ES + T1 % ES OR T1 Flat ES + T1 % ES} AND Open Prefix
then you craft prefixes cannot be changed, veiled chaos (50/50 to get a veiled prefix, chance u fill prefixes and have to annul/go again
unveil MS

then ur suffixes r just block, ex slam, uncraft, funny annul repeat until u get the mod u want

[broken ether]

woe essence is just 4 less flat es right

[wraith prawn]

yes

[broken ether]

do i block anyzhing here

[wraith prawn]

how are you going to block something

you already have 2 prefixes

[broken ether]

and if i dont get onslaught i gotta annul it

[wraith prawn]

if you specifically want onslaught then that's gonna be rough

but you're very very likely to get movespeed, i forget if its 100% but its super common

[broken ether]

i got it without onslaught

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[broken ether]

this gonna cost me more than 75d

[wraith prawn]

no

[broken ether]

im 30d into it

[wraith prawn]

i mean most of that is u getting unlucky on the fracture

this got ridiculously unlucky and prefixes took 23 div

[broken ether]

ok i got the thing

[wraith prawn]

ok

now make it EATER dominant (blue!)

what suffixes do u want, just t1 res + crafted suppress?

[broken ether]

yes

[wraith prawn]

ok so repeat the following until u get t1 res:

craft int, exalt slam, remove crafted mods, eldritch annul

once u slam t1 res u just replace crafted int with crafted suppress and ur done

[broken ether]

ok just normal exalt

[wraith prawn]

yes

u can also div it super easily at the end for better ES, since u just have res + crafted mod u can fix ur suffix rolls super easily

[marble talon]

the fact theres only 4 and 2 results tells u the price is fake

almost always theres way more than that unless its a mirror tier item

[wraith prawn]

(that or theyre looking for a really really specific set of mods)

[marble talon]

u can check how to make stuff on craftofexile before u make it to see how much its gonna cost, ask for help here for steps how to do it too if u dont know the method in the first place

[broken ether]

would this be similar to craft

[marble talon]

u gotta recomb the fracture mod from grasping mail

then dense spam for big res or essence spam the res for other res and lock suffix reforge defense or eldritch chaos for big es

very $$$$ tho

[broken ether]

on market they are 200div

[marble talon]

id just get that without the global mod

[wraith prawn]

why dense spam for res instead of dense -> eldritch for suffixes

[marble talon]

dense for prefixes

can eldritch chao res yea

[inner steeple]

The Fractured mod cannot be moved to another base.

He needs to move the global defense and fracture it

[marble talon]

yea

thats wat i meant

instead of typing global defense i wrote fracture mod lmao but yea fracture after

[broken ether]

how do u get that mod on grasping mail

drop only

[elder elbow]

transfer from dex/str/int base

Recombinator

[broken ether]

i mean on grasping mail doesnt look like u can roll it

[elder elbow]

Yes
You need to sell 60 breach rings and you might get one with inc defense

[broken ether]

so impossible

[jagged shadow]

https://youtu.be/wzY91SlzI0Q?si=AEhllE30Tr1fKPIR

[broken ether]

!giverep @wraith prawn

!giverep @jagged shadow

!giverep @marble talon

[marble talon]

yea u gotta spam hand in those rings to id the grasping mail or buy unid ones, hope u get the mod for global defense, recombinate and hope u dont fail the odds to send it over to the twilight regalia AND that it picks the regalia instead of grasping mail as the base result

and then u gotta fracture orb it for 25% chance on top

[broken ether]

ok how hard is this to craft then

[marble talon]

dense spam for es mods, lock prefix, reforge defense for the recover on block or u might hit it while spamming for es and settle for watever es u get unless u want really good rolls and tiers, then its veiled mod for the double dmg focus and thats it

[broken ether]

the block one is hybrid with es

[marble talon]

u can hit it while spamming dense fossils

[broken ether]

okay

and its veiled exalt

for double dmg

[marble talon]

u can proly just lock prefix veiled chaos

oh wait recover is a suffix too nvm

yea

craft this before clicking unveil too for better odds

[broken ether]

i think its gonna be a movie trying to dense all those prefixes

[trim basin]

!giverep @covert star

[silk edge]

Does anyone have tips for this? I used an Awakened Orb with one Elder and one Shaper mod, annul the others. Should I just keep recombining them until I run out of currency?

[neon rapids]

How would I craft this?

[molten briar]

how do I craft these and what would be the approximate budget?

[wraith prawn]

the only way i can think of is to recomb temple mod on (theres like 2000 guides how to do this if you dont know), fracture it, then hollow, annul suffix if you need to, reforge speed, once u have t1 attack speed prefixes r eldritch for t1 life then veil ex for proj speed/damage. if youre in league thats actually crafting at a loss, i guess you could just matron veil chaos until t1 life? but that seems like itd still be more expensive

either theres a lot of these secondhand from when veiled ex were cheaper or im missing something with the prefixes

oh wait, veiled chaos then aug life? thats probably cheapest

yeah its probably that sorry for thinking out loud oops

[jagged shadow]

get the fracture then harvest reforge fire or fire fossil single resonators for the suffixes. Lock suffixes and veil chaos to unveil the fire/ignite

[neon rapids]

I was just typing this as you sent ur reply. okay so far im thinking just alt spam for damage over time mult, regal exalt fracture orb for base. Then is the next step harvest fire or some fossil combo? hope for the perfect suffixes then lock with craft and then idk

but looks like i was almost on the right track

[jagged shadow]

yup on the right track indeed

when you do your suffix locks, use wild bristle matron

and veil chaos not veil exalt

[neon rapids]

mannnn im so happy I was able to kinda figure this out. I'm new to crafting. Thanks for the help.

[jagged shadow]

that will dramatically cut the costs of fishing for the prefix 🙂

[neon rapids]

ya def veil chaos cheaper if u have suff lock makes a lot of sense wow

[robust spear]

OK here's the next project. Can anyone help me understand the key words to search for on this one? I can tell it's double influenced. Anything else about it that I need to be aware of when looking for a crafting method?

(although in this case I want a T1 ele res instead of suppress)

[hardy pumice]

thats beast lock

just lock the tailwind and preview a bunch of onslaughts on a stranded base for resist, then lock suffix ref crit for elusive, lock suffix veil exalt for ms

[worldly scaffold]

Can someone help me complete this craft? I got a good prefix and a good suffix, but I don't know how to add the other attributes without destroying what's already there.

[covert star]

I don't think there is a cheap way as you can't eldritch craft

and expensive ways would be keep locking and begging

so not the ideal

at least from that starting point

[stone beacon]

I'm a super new player been playing about week was following a guide to make this 25/25 Archdemon and just used an awakaners orb on the 2. I didnt want the Accuracy roll is the only option to gamble anul?

[covert star]

Not that i can think of

[stone beacon]

when i awakeners orb it rerolls all the non influenced mods right

[covert star]

yup

the outcome is random

[stone beacon]

if i where to gamble anul it and it hit what could i do

like

[covert star]

apart from both influenced mods ofc

[stone beacon]

reforge life?

[elder elbow]

Can u alt?

[stone beacon]

or something

[stone beacon]

ya

the accuracy is a suffix

and the life is a preflx

[covert star]

yup, with suffixes cannot be changed ofc

[elder elbow]

U neee to annul accuracy?

[covert star]

you could do remove non influenced mod