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looks good on paper but horrible to use
i tihnk vouch worked more as a confirmation of service complete than vouching for the person
whys that
static strike life stacker was p good
i been in comparison with my BV
your bv that is abusing the bug i assume
bug? what bug? who said bug?
not a bug
unintended interaction

they asked grok if it was good
lol
so yeah of course nothing will feel as good as the most broken thing in the game go figure..
i have a KBoC witch too and still better than the lifestacker
in what metrics
i mean in terms of clear, mapping NOT BOSSING
the clear build wins against the non clear build in clear
agreed
more news at 11
this just in...
but yea lifestacker is good no doubt
Wait hang on Amanda I'm getting something.... TFT jenebu has just deleted all the channels, its the worst incident in the history of path of exile trade Amanda
just... clunky
Tom they just hit the third tower
FAAHHHHHH
i mean i hit a mob every 7 seconds and just shield charged across the map popping stuff wasnt clunky at all
guess my build is shit then sigh - was using Smite lifestaccker
imagine moving when HH can teleport you around
imagine using HH when u can use Temporalis
does that work with my voidborn mtx
in what sense 
for general yapping, use the #💬│yapping-general channel
i don't understand, we are talking about poe here so what is the poe chat for if not this
please stop yapping or you will be banned
general statement. poe1 welcome here
Does beyond work with the eternal legion scarab?
Theres a channel to find bloodline services?
they use to post in #🏅│challenges-wts or #👑│boss-carry-wts
thanks sir
np at all, glad to help
hello sir, Is there a way for me to quickly link my Discord account with PoE? I want to reach Awakened.
I left this Discord server and just rejoined, so I've lost quite a bit.
what channel sells vorici white sockets

i think #💬│yapping-general
what foulborn skin of the lords keystones i can buy for bv minion pact?
If you aren't here to sell your build or ask for vouch restore please use #💬│yapping-general to generally yap
Is sacred the lowest vouch restore? I had the exalted one I believe (3rd badge of w/e) i think
oh yeah me too i actually had divine, please restore my roles
@bright hatch where is the report-a-mod channel?
Yo dose anyone have an Aurabot POB i can take a look at?
no need, all our mods are excellent
dang you sound like Nell already
good luck with the reddit rage
Does anyone know where the ticket system is for roles? pretty sure me and a few buddies were awakened+ and still dont see the restore
Something has surely happened with sirus i ran him about 40 times no awakener orb
could anyone sell me a trial of piercing truth?
did they remove all the roles?
i still have mine, did you ragebait leave the channel
think a lot of people did that, they just forfeited their roles
thought tft was gone now begging for role back
tft is gone
now you just have jenebu, his lapdogs, and no tools or bots to actually make the server work 
i need a new GPU, should i get a 5090?
I mean to be fair, all the tools and vouchbot etc still exist at the poehub discord. So technically it's not "gone" per say. Just not here anymore. Here will be a new system/setup - curious to see it.
yes
is it possible to send a 50m shipment with 0% risk?
wow thats a great use of the blacklist channel - feeding your own ego
What a tool
Nah, i never left anything
good morning gamers! i see we now have a yapping channel (i now realize its afternoon for me lol)
If you happen to have proof, you can open up a ticket in #💀│service-reports.
We are working on a better ticketing system.
hi mates, what would be a good rare/uniq gear for maximum lvl 60 to help rushing my friend at breach in t16? to lvl 95
@omga Great, ty for the reply. Ill see if I can dig up some proof
is there any way to restore my rank? i got screenshot from poehub of what it was before
Guys, how to link poe account?
I'm staring right at it, but I can't see it
"regarding the vouching system, we are working with ggg right now to obtain access to a developer application which will let me re-implement linking poe to discord, the primary mechanism for avoiding scams and fraud. hopefully i'll hear something about that soon."
ah thanks
@bright hatch no more alpha tft friend role ?
is this tru
@bright hatch hi sir, is it possible to restore rank? i got poe hub screenshot. was awa servc provider
Any chance we do something about the build service providers in the WTS build channel?
They're legit spamming full pages of BS. They have their own channel don't they?
o/
you think anyone actually reads the channel and doesnt just ctrl f?
Looks like they don't yet. Hopefully soon. Hard enough to get your build noticed without getting immediately spammed out by a build service seller.
Yes?
Bro.. I read the channel. I want to see notes. If I'm not after a specific build, I'm scrolling and checking prices and showcases like what?
yea definetly need a slowmode on it >.>
what do you guys think is the right cooldown, you're right, 30m not enough
6 hr slowmode enabled 👍
1h slowmode and a channel for service providers specifically.
this
what do you mean service providers
They had that prior and it separated the big page long spams that they do very well.
So stuff like buying leveling runs, selling/trading for people, doing full builds for people etc etc
Just general services a lot of people do provide and a lot of people do use.
i think you might just have that category hidden
goto browse channels at the top and toggle on poe1 sc services
I... shouldn't? I never hid anything before.
level services is there
Oh yeah level carrying I see it
its when it came back didnt got ticked in by default
So that can get collapsed into a WTS-Services channel yeah?
To provide a full build on request for someone?
yes
it really depends if there is video or not
And take a 35% fee of the build? I'd consider that a service. It takes a long time to craft an entire build.
i give you 100 div you give me 15 items
if there is a video of a showcase than it probably is a service
cause he has to make the video too right not just trade the items
also has to have a character he can showcase it on idk
Yeah, I don't have the items on hand prior to you asking me "make me a cyclone build". I need to then do the research and put together the items one by one and then hand over a full set.
It used to be in a services channel prior and it takes bloat away from a channel that's already hard to get noticed in.
i have a custom services hidden, im still deciding how that should work trusted role wise
don't want 
Yeah I'd imagine that's annoying to work out. That's a very trusted service.
honestly we have join dates
longer u in the more trusted you should be is my opinion but who knows
ppl could have alts and stuff so that might not be an only indicator
iirc Ascended Service Providers was required to post custom services like that in the past. while its a rough title to claim it means you have placed effort and time not only in the community but in the game.
Exalted Service Providers still take a bit to access, especially for people who arent doing 3 min services like boss carry or slot unlocks ect.
what i dont like about the current/old system is the people that doesnt vouch lmao
I'd fully agree with that. I can't remember what the service level req was before, but I wouldn't argue with ascended.
and i dont really feel right crying and ticketing about it really
as someone who does services that take an hour and a half average to complete it really stings when i do not get a vouch after carrying through the campaign for the whole time.
yup xD
one or two people not vouching on a boss carry, you probably dont even notice. when you spend a full 1.5 hours with someone and they ghost you....
Yeah, it takes 2s to open the vouch channel and @ someone lol
i did a lot of leveling and once you done people usually forget heck even i forget lmao
i usually have the #✅│services-vouches even in the post
i made it a habit to make them DM me on discord to confirm the service so i could @ them in the reminder channel with a SS with proof of service, i was missing probably a good 20 vouches. which like i said with 1.5 hour service times... it hurts
It used to work for exalted service providers + then u had to contact the bot to talk to mods about getting custom services role.
I know this because i used to do it for item selling until they basically removed everyone from it.
Also what happened to vouches, i was like 9 away from ascended service provider xd
They got reset to half the value of the rank.
they all got nuked with the tantrum
bro everyone and their trust me bro i was 9 away
Was the only fair way to settle everyone.
oh sure
lowkey i dont even know where i was before the nuke
i guess alot of fakes vouches happened
Some people, myself included, were close to the next ranks and got dumped a bit but whatever. Woke provider is fine anyways
ye i was curious it wasnt just me
Nah. server wide
Hi, I guys. Would like to ask, is there anyone doing gold rota in standard? there is no post on it? 
xd
i mean vouch wise lmao
i will forever remember the day when the nuke happen tho.
and not why you think xD
i actually dropd a mirror that day
well arent u a lucky fuck
i mean this wasnt the first tantrum, just the biggest one, remember the clown emoji explosion a few leagues back?
luck has nothing to do with it sir
luck has to do with any drop in the game
i was at 6m kills when it dropd xD
ok ty good info
one of my buddies put on his pilphering ring when he swapped to breach strat and has a clip of him with 670~ divines and 3 mirrors this league. like wtf are those odds
Guys, how can i edit someone's filter that i followed ? I try to check on filterblade but it did not show
pilfering is the devil
p2w statistics lmao
You need to go to filterblade and use the creators account name to find their filter and import it. From there you can edit and then sync.
but if they update their stuff yours get updated too right? , how to break that chain tho
It only updates if you manually update in-game or you've set auto-update in filterblade.
Both of which you can easily fix/avoid.
It still doesn't show, maybe it is private ?
oh ok good, last time i used it i dont think it had that/ or i couldnt find it xD
The other thing you can do is simply make a copy of the filter and import it.
it was couple years ago tbh
Then it's just considered your filter and only updates when you make changes.
i got so fckin mad, made my little costum filter with sounds and whatnot spent hours for the right amount of moaning and then somehow it got updated lmao
I know things are in the works but while we are on discussions like this, any plans to bring back the vouch reminder channel, so we can ping people who have not vouched for services? as well as setting a pin in service channels stating requirements for vouches for completions of a service.
the pin thing 1000% needed 😄
His filter is out of date, so i want to change it my own
You should be able to make a copy of the filter and import it to filterblade. Then from there you just do the normal editing, sync it/make a name/etc etc, push to poe
looks like there isn't any pins in any of the service channels stating what is expected of a type of service, such as 5way requirements for a service being completed and Level carrys required to state the content being run for the job ect. ect.
Yeah that's admin stuff that's going to take a fair amount of time for a 3 person team to take care of.
I think the main focus right now is security and re-linking with GGG
(I'm guessing based on an earlier convo, could be wrong)
yep like i said
know things are in the works
Ideally some of the easier things can get handled while they get an API key sorted with GGG and working out requirements ect.
Yeah I don't disagree. I'm sure we'll have it all soon.
baby steps
what is with these guys selling ward shatter elementalist and showing dps with 20 casts per second
How do I send msg on #📦│builds-wts?
It might have a rank requirement now.
whyyyyyyyyyyy
Because it's an easily scammable service
is it? 99% of builds can fit into 1 trade
A lot of people don't double check properly.
i guess gems take room too
Then they get the build together and realize something is off and the seller has em on ignore already.
its extremely easy to make a pob with good numbers and looks cool that does nothing in game and doesnt work
If said buyer DOES notice, then they just sell the build as normal and it's on to the next victim.
I wanted to sell my build sadge
It's a ruthless scammer world out there. Protect ya neck
so because people cant look at what they are trading for i cant buy or sell builds
Something like that, yeah. lol
Yeah hate to be the bearer of bad news but hey, it's not all bad.
It's only 20 vouches to get to trusted. Do some free services
on of them u mean ? xD #📦│builds-wts message
maybe we need build middlemans xD that actually levels up a char for the build makes a vid, post it for you and gets a %
If I was gonna do that, I'd just craft the build and sell it as a whole and have that be the plan from the start.
Your only limiting factor is what characters you have, and currently, that's not very limiting. lol
xD
ward break foulborn heart bound loop with less duration autocast skele's and zombies they do infact get near over over 20 casts per second
sorry, hwat
have you not seen it?
I'm not saying I don't believe it at all, that was just a mouthful of minion build jargon I have little understanding of lol
guys running around literally autocasting like craft with wardloop
ward shatter itself has a 0.15 sec cooldown
server tick rates in shambles
it really is a disgusting setup
at 12% cdr its 7.5 casts/sec
People blamin us breach farmers for the server bloat.. smh lmao
as far as i know you dont get 1 ward shatter per cast on ward break
you have a global CD
POE 3.28 Cast On Ward Break Exsanguinate Elementalist COWB
just pulled one up on youtube, quick google
Ye gonna look now
im well aware, ive put 2 mirrors into one over the last few weeks
what's counting his ward as breaking, it never moves lol
you run an iron flask that gets back all its charges and refills ward when it breaks
I guess this is why that iron flask I looted earlier was 60d
100%
I did literally 1 exped map to test big bomba with cyclone and see if it was doable with the aspirational palsteron setup
Spoiler: it's not
the mjo ball light orbiting cyclone?
voidforge accel stampedes
nvm im thinking Onemanaleft not palsteron
Got an 899 vf, 182 stampedes and well rolled volatiles in the other slots
Got knocked over by the exped rares. made uber bosses look bad
Gonna check this tomorrow after i woke up. thats indeed interessting. As far as i know things that rly possible are -> 4–6 casts/sec never seen something far behind that
literally half of the people selling ward shatter builds are falsifying their dps
the only class getting 20 casts/sec is sabo with 52% cdr and perfect crime
if you have no cdr its 6.66 casts/sec and at 12% its 7.57 for all other ascendancies
all good, might just take some time to get it back
@bright hatch should bring back "report a post"
This is one of the most inflated build prices I ever seen https://discordapp.com/channels/645607528297922560/1489373559406071858/1490930132808892498
@vivid dagger
5 mirror for original sin? 1.5 mirror for second ring? 1 mirror for helm omegalul
like 3 inflated mirrors in those 3 items
shameless bro
why are you listing your OS for 1 mirror more than trade?
why is your light of meaning 1 mirror for 5% aoe when 2% res eff is 9 div
OS is currently 4m, or 3600
lmao good to see people lookin out in the builds channel still
...Also good to see I wasn't the target lmao
everyone inflates a little but thats one of the worst ones ive ever seen lmao
just blatant scamming attempt
I just post at whatever the going rate is and at the top of my notes I say "Prices current as of Apr. 6/26". If someone has a question tomorrow, I quote that and let them know I'll research and update.
Protects me from price changes and protects the buyer from the same.
Just price honestly, all you can do.
You can't price something based on the price you paid for it 3 days ago. You have to price it based on the current market. That's how investments work.
And if you intended to sell anything from the build, then it was just that, a failed investment if the price went down.
It’s a nice build and worth a lot, I just think it’s extremely predatory to list items a full mirror over available market trades, gl bro
im getting flash backs to facebook market place 'i know what i have' lol
When I get bored Ill message build sellers asking how theyre getting 15 stacks of wither on a 25% chance to wither with 4 APS ^_^
just be an honest thomas
Buddy I got no clue what you’re talking about but I’m seriously not surprised
Can I go find similar items for half the price and link them to you for funsies?
overpricing and still arguing 💀
I missed any arguements and drama, was it good at least?
it is kinda fun reading the delusions
"Players will sometimes inflate the cost of builds they are selling far beyond what it is actually worth. "
#🚨│scam-avoiding-101
9 os at 4 mirrors rn=no tiems
sorry your subjective opinion is worse than my subjective opinion because I am right
im just quoting whats written in that thread lol
I am joking
If i had to pick one being worse.. inflating DPS is worse than inflating value
Ive crafted like 13 builds for people in my discord, ill just remake something before i buy it anyways so the inflated prices are a quick lol for me
Who is that targeted at? I dont think anyone was crying or really accusing it of being scam.. Scummy for sure. but ;o
yooooooo are u saying we are rmting?
Thats what i was about to ask him 😂
defending scummy behavior is a weird stance but go off
are u an AI?
5-200 divine markup for the convenience and time and gold saved is not what ANYONE was talking about. they are talking about a "14 mirror" build that is likely worth 5.
It is a Seller Issue when u clearly overprice with 1 mirr. We all put some div Here or there over the TM but that kinda behaviour is definitly kinda scammy.
paying extra for convenience is quite literally how all bulk selling in this entire discord and the community works. Pay for convenience is a non issue.
Do you think 30d an hour strats are the only way to play poe? Ive made >10 mir sellign volatile vaald items for the gamba memes.
i wold liek to say.
yall need to touch grass arguing about this for so long lol
well, like it or not, according to the rules inflating prices is a scam
too dark to touch grass 😛
side hassle while farming
nothing to watch
lol im alt tabbing back in between heist wings xdd
it definitely kills time between free boss carries ^^
vouch farming is hard 💀
Go for it Bro, earn the way Back 💪
If you're inflating prices intentionally, I'm honestly not sure what to call it. Definitely scummy. Scammy? Yeah maybe.
Anyone can post an item on Faustus for 3 mirrors that's worth 3 div. Buyer has always had to protect themselves in PoE. Do I condone it? Absolutely not. But there's a grey area here and there's no easy answer.
For those of you that havent been yolo gambling volatile vaals.. there are some really good hits that are hundreds++ of div and really not that hard to hit
defense enchanted foulborn ghostwrithes, Ynda's strand, replica alberons, enmity's that go low on the reduced
Can I not buy a mirror service if i dont have rep?
I thought I saw something that said there would be no mirror shop
Ahh
The other shops that existed in the community are still out there
jenebu banned
no more mirror items
Does anyone know what the process for recovering our rep is? Or is that still being sorted? I left the server when it became full NSFW and in the process deleted my stats. Was about halfway to Ascended (I have a screenshot from poehub)
Ayy its dumbo
hola
i dont know
I think I may have figured it out. We'll see
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#🏆│rep-ladder !v @ urself
Im geniunely curious when will they sorted out this rep thing, cause i was immortal
that doesn't work if you left the server
Why you left in the first place
server had been destroyed and was just NSFW channels?
well then idk how u gonna recover stuff
So what, all you needed to do is wait couple days
sure
There Poehub
channels deleted and mostly bots and rtd ppl spam

Yea, I have that captured already. I submitted a ticket. We'll see /shrug
wait till they solve relinking and that may give u everything back
Why dont just do service from Poehub
its basically same shit, just there even blacklisted ppl have acces
access* so gl if u get scammed
You say it like people didnt get scammed here when the channel are open back up
never denied it didnt happen here too
well it is, and ppl hating tft for no fckn reason, before async trade tft kept poe trades alive
just bcus x y z had drama wth a b c it doesnt fckn concern 90% of ppl here
Tbf there are some concern about top end people in tft hording all the high-end currency like Hinekora lock for their mirror shop and stuff in the past
Can understand why they are getting some hate
poe conspiracies kekw
beast prices skyrocket everytime any mirror shop crafts a giga item so have you thought of supply and demand?
that was mir shop people & jenebu, none of the mods or LCMs did that
that why i said mir shop and top end people
so ppl crafting mirror items holding hinekora locks for future crafts is a bad thing ok
holding 500+ is a bit much 
how so
make it 2k
considering some items require 100+ ?
only std items take that many
when you hold that much lock you are controlling the market
but thats the whole point of a mirror shop
aha, they dont do that anymore and locks are 150 divines
cause they can't 
anymore which mean you amitted that they do it before?
admitted? i just said from ur perspective
ah so you do know wtf is market manipulation is
the mirror shop is gone and yet hinekoras are expensive
tft mirror shop
its almost like tons of them basically got void'd
so wheres validity in ur statement
you think they they are the ONLY ONE?

then everyone does the same? that includes other mirror shop
so what grounds of accusations u got that only refers to tft?
TFT was getting all the heat because they just one of the biggest one
if i say other shop do it then is okay but TFT is not?
so everyone else is saint cuz tft built a community bigger than them
So is the tft disco back to normal?
saviours kekw
they're staying up/going up cause people are making new mir tier items, due to a ton of them going poof
If you don't want that to happen, drop more locks.
The fact its an issue is not because people are gatekeeping but because lock drop less than its used
never will be

finally someone with a brain
I left when it stopped getting modded and now I lost all my vouches....

i mean every mirror shop does similar things, stocking currencies for future crafts, if 2 ppl do that vs 5 ppl who will get more?
drop the sheep acts and mind ur game
tft had way more than 5 
you cant take an example ok, you want them by exact number, guess what neither other shops had only 2 lets go with autism
What's the most expensive simplex
ig focused is most expensive atm, the armour stacking one
+8 with positive fire res 1/83 locks to get 2x multi 3 positive
profit crafting str stacking
Slow mod 5ways chanel 15 min 🫣
Whoever does this has never done this service. It takes 5 minutes.
what are some farms you can do with breach right now?
5 minutes for 5 runs?
^
breach with beyond for vaal volatile in mirage
u either do bloodlines or skip it and do low invest
I wouldn’t say breach is for volatiles when ur juicing it. It’s more so to fish for t0 and lock/mirror drops
i m not rlly into breach after the strat went into 2-4 div avg on 3 div invest
i would rather farm low invest and skip all the shit
can you still do the weapon swap tech with minion pact?
yo what you're around here too?
small world huh
always thought there must be be some overlap between cosmic/poe
why my role was reset? how can I restore my role? thank you so much
thank you so much
Womp
Are there no rules in the 5 ways section anymore? Hosts are already lying about the number of kills and the number of people in the group. Nothing good will happen without strict rules and punishment.
yi
there is a report channel, instead of complaining on general chat you ll get more from doing so #💀│service-reports
not defending them, but with posts limited to 15 minutes you might find numbers change due to runners being impatient and moving to a newer posted rota and host hasnt updated ad
back when it was 5 minute posts you would quite often be posting 1-2 times, at 15 minutes it makes it a lil harder to fill i assume
I will note this down 
people shoudl be honest with kill counts but i will be suggesting a quicker slowmode in 5ways to assist in keeping the current runs posted
Increasing the timeout period only makes hosts lower their prices to avoid the 15-minute wait. In other words, they devalue their work.
if u edit the posts its reposting it? as far as i know
@red cradle how to get vouches? i got 2, but it didn't count. also wrote u PM, so asking here
i got info
#📋│tft-announcements message , Sorry didn't check incoming dms yet
yeah, saw this. Thanks!
lf build to farm essence/beasts i want to be fast but not die and have some clear i guess
cast on crit chain hook
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is anyone Here an aurabot?
Welp. Took 3 immortals to 30, then 2 HoMs to 9, then 2 Damnations to 16. Always gamble kids.
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I agree
Ofc
Expedition juicing is the most fun I’ve had this league, only been doing it for past few hours
Fast maps, 20c - 30c cost per map.
Averaging 2D profit per map per hour then you got chance to drop olroths boots (220d)
plus iron flasks
if those are still money atp, made a bunch earlier league off em
guys, where i can find the hiest builds selling ? i wanna buy a build
please just make a build yourself man everyone in builds selling channel is trying to make a profit and a huge number of them are very dishonest with pricing
save urself the pain
well i got my beans too but wont spill it haha
made 2 mirrors this league, first time i ever got 2 mirrors
not from drop but still a huge achievement
nice job man good stuff
next league go for 3 ‼️
rob him

how do i get permission to post in build wts?
any place to buy build?
I need gold can I pay someone to get me gold
yea go buy this build 🤣 🤣 🤣 it has a gg price balanced gear ^^ #📦│builds-wts message
Wtf is that build lol, three 1 point voices
That rathpith and that ghostwrithe also
it has 15 years of experience xD
Rich people style
can you start gsf with 10 days and just add more later?
yes
HI
Can I ask, is !givingreps now considered a way to get added as a TFT friend?
wagwan
What is the benefit of the 5 way service?
Yea
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any crafting service?
15000 e girls to carry you
how's new tft?
i lost my role, so, its good bro
l
Noice
is posting services free for vouch allowed? doesn't really display that you're trustworthy right?
Free for a vouch is allowed
It was always allowed, why should it be not trustworthy to do it for free ? xD
maybe it's just me but i thought of reputation system like this:
guy holds my item to do crafting and comes through. +1 reputation.
i pay guy upfront to do challenge or boss and comes through. +1 reputation.
doing something free for a vouch doesn't really give that same sort of credit right?
could i buy an Aul carry from someone?
I mean free for vouche is doing basicly the same Service as all other that get paid for it.
hi chat. how can i do bulk selling ? should i accepted to channel first ? i cannot share my msg
a vouch is proof of service completion. It funny how people still don't understand.
A vouch is not payment, it receipt of service completion. Without it properly being accounted for, a trust system wouldn't work. Though sellers are at the mercy of the buyer.
They are doing boss carry for free.. The price is free. Vouch is the receipt.
aren't vouches for a reputation system showing that the seller is trustworthy?
paid for services, you pay upfront for service and then they come through so they show they are trustworthy.
free service, the buyer risks nothing
where can i buy t17 in bulk?
It's proof of completed services.
think of it like a contractor. a contractor has 20 customers who paid him upfront, and he completed services.
vs.
a contractor who does 20 small jobs for free.
who would you trust to do a $30K patio?
The contractor who does it for free can still be taken to court and made to pay (offer compensation for scuffed service).
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it's a civil case and they don't always go in the buyer's favor
just like in tft, you get scammed, it won't always go in buyer's favor
What service are you selling that is getting undercut by free service providers?
I buy from whoever feels right to me. It has nothing to do with vouches at all, in my opinion. If the service is good and the person is likable, then it doesn’t matter whether you have one vouch for free or 2000 for a paid service.
it was just a thought experiment, seeing what others think
Thats why we all here for, for communicate i guess
Vouch is a receipt. Treat it as anything else and you lose the point completely.
bigmad seems to be getting a bit mad xD
Some take it personally ^^
im not here to change a system. been on tft way too long for that. was just a random thought i had this morning
Yea is a good Point to ask for why not tho, hope u got ur answer to that ❤️
your perspective was a great contribution. thank you for that 🙂
how to mitigate these nasty ground effects in delve?
5 way How do I reset it? I saw other people get 10,000 kills, but when I tried it with my friends and a full party, we only got around 6,000 kills.
Sometimes you should look at things from different perspectives in order to understand them 🙂
Well, idk what to say man. Nice deflect on 'knowing perspectives'. Sure it's not because you are getting undercut in boss carries (which people do for free if you ask nicely on global).
Its kb and perfectly timed resets bscly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJuaO-pvt4&t=542s here a Tutorial for u ^^,
but led me add 1 thing to that 10k kills is is a secret mystery these guys do 😉 most of them are aura bots and dmg dealer at same time the rest u can think on ur own.
in my experience, when i use to host, the more aoe you pushed for the better numbers you would get
Oh congratz to ur Role ^^
❤️ will do my best to serve everybody and make this place the best it can be
but cause ur ask so kinda cool for that, i will stop today my services that u can farm a bit more ^^
it has nothing to do with my services. i havent posted a service in like 2 days
Hello, I would like to know if it is normal to have lost my Rank Service Provider?
oh ok then i wont stop i guess ^^
Hi, how can I get permission to post my build?
Nah no Moneybag bro only service i get paid for is Acts, all other i did was for free and half of them or more did not even vouche xD
need at least 20 rep
I had over 80 before, do I need more?
go to rep-ladder and see if you can restore your vouches by checking your rep
ok ty
dang today i learned hideout hunting is a form of making currency. people make 15-20d per portal. not bad!
Yea kinda but ill stay in my Celestial Nebula, is more comfortable ^^
🥀
Where would I sell ascendancies like from delirium here ?
where i can find a Sanctum carry for bloodline ?
hmm, why there isnt wts/wtb items for poe 1 league? or am i missing it
currently staff are working hard to restore all the old threads, what is it we are missing and i can look into it
basic items WTS channel in the league section.
there is for standard, but the league one is missing.
was a pretty popular channel
i think we are using #💎│item-showcase but this doesnt cover WTB sorry
Guys, is there a new entry point for the Link role in the TFT channel now?
ah i guess ill use the item-showcase for now, though its a bit missleading name tbh. and its not under the mirage trade category as well
hi
whats the best build for marauder guys? is it rf?
Anyone here an aurabot?
guys how i can earn REVEAL wing on heist ?
anyone has a giga hypermaxed frostblades (non slayer/berserk) or icicle mine pob?
Icicle mines occultist or ?
and you looking for a delve build?
idrc what class with iccicle mines
just anythign thats not zhp bosser/delver
but idk how delve works nowadays i used to watch some guy play zhp icicle mine in deep delve but that was in like 2021
I mean, if you are playing icicle mines occultist, you usually take CI.
icicle mine build that can map well while still having good single target is p much what im looking for
That's a big ask, but I wouldn't rule it out. However, I can't help unfortunately. I played icicle mines of fanning occultist on league start.
It can be made to have decent sustain, but for juiced breach (T16.5, scarabs, astrolabe, 60% deli), it's too much work avoiding death.
So I rerolled to something that is an all rounder with tons more sustain.
this build is giga dead because of how they changed delve
If you filter icicle mines on poe.ninja, you should get an idea of what is possible. (Icicle mines of FANNING)
It melts bosses still.
halo
how can i see service channel need some
i see
i have no clue how it even worked tbh even tho i watched that guy hours at a time
was just spamming frostwall and icicle mine idfk what was going on
thx man ill see
It's also a charge stacking build, so you could be looking at a 400 div ring + kalandra's touch
I never finished the super end game build, I had 37 M dps and 50k ehp when I liquidated it.
hi can somebody help me find service channel
i see
how can you filter out nightmare maps from 16.5 on trade
you would use replica nebulis chainbreaker to scale speed + dmg
its dead now because delve is shit and zhp builds are no longer viable due to new monster types
you need to scale defenses in deep delve
good clear but bad mapper
oh zhp isnt a thing anymore in delve?
is deep delve even good profit nowdays anymore?
no delve got gutted
ah yikes
i remember fractured fossil? i think it was called idk was like always 1 ex+ or closed to
yeah frac fossil sucks now
and that guy gotr a shitload of them always
they changed it so its worthless
cant have shit from delve anymore XD now even the qual fossile is gone
steve just does it to flex nowadays
the only thing of value there are doryani maps and adorned pieces
and boss carries ig. ppl want aul bloodlines
what minimal lvl need for 5way?
also no one plays normal icicle mine anymore it seems like
plays so much nicer than fanning tbh but ig the dmg is just way too much difference
I always wondered, did steve have a youtube or a twitch where he's active?
afaik steven schitt had a twitch but only streamed when he hit integer limit for the first time
idk what hes up to nowadays
when was that lol, i remember in Necropolis league he went pretty deep because I started late that league...
i wish i still knew his name bruh
like casseypoe or smth i have no clue anymore, german i think but not sure rn he talked in english tho im p sure
idr but necro sounds about right
youre thinking of casie, he did stream
yeah smth like that
he said he was making 0.5 mirr/hr back in the day
streams were always chill lowkey
@rustic osprey
yeah i only knew he made a shit ton with delve or atleast looked like it
I’d be careful typing rates like that with (per.hr kind of stuff).
I got timed out by auto mod for it before.
fubglup is above the law
ig ill just stick with frostblades and try some new stuff next league
since im not rly a fan of fanning icicle mines but well see
@unique topaz hello
hello
someone was asking about you
my delve arc is like 5 years ago
💔
anyone have the discord for cast when damage taken?
do u still stream/play or nah? didnt look like it when i looked at ur twitch last time
Heyhey all ;D
guys
why i self-cast sniper mark, the icon show, but when i use sniper mark and imbue mark on hit the icon not show ?
test on fortress boss
anyone know of a current table that shows avg XP / run for 5-ways?
Who?
please stop stalking me i have a restraining order on you
why this shit so slow to develop
Wasnt applicable for discord communication, hon
Greetings Comrades I am UltraMaga and my adjectives are Brilliant/Handsome how does it hang my fellow patriots?
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i play but streaming is no fun
:((
Man the prices people are asking to buy builds to farm the juiciest content at is wild lmao
can u venmo me $50
i lost my 1.5 k div in harvest casino (((
F
is that macho man
i have a nub question:
he is dead
Adds 2 to 110 Lightning Damage to Attacks against you <<---- did this mod make that mobs hit me harder with lightning dmg?
And?
@hollow sluice are you a patriot?
You makin some kind of a point here lmao
im here to spread the word
I have already received 21 vouchers,but it still shows Has not earned any service role in TFT
how can i earned any service role in TFT
what is the forbidden trove
Sure is
Team fight tactics
Better than wow
I think many are better than wow
Everything is
Good thing I failed to download it back in 2012
😢 It's unclear how long it took for GGG to agree to open the LINK entry.
True and real
is int stacking still good or nah?
on the high end ye, and the plus side is nobody is playing it so it's cheap as fuck
also why is buildwts a full hour nowD: sadge asf
Because it should be.
yo guys im new to this server and trying to get a simulacrum carry for the bloodline , some are listed as free for vouch what does that mean
my shit gonna get lost mane that's sadge asf
It was discussed last night and the change was made. Too many people spamming 3 pages of "I'll make your build for you" as a service.
Like it wasn't getting lost to build creation spammers already? lmao
that channel has like 20 posts a minute, after 10m nobody is seeing it unless they specifically search for that build lol. at least on 30m i can go back to the front for a few seconds
People wont search for u name, they search for specific build in search bar so i dont think it gonna get lost tbh.
all this does is just double the avg time for somebody to sell their build:(
It makes literally zero difference. If someone wants your specific build, they'll look for it. Otherwise they'll scroll the channel as normal.
ye that's wut i meant, but as somebody who only makes off meta builds, they dont know they want my shit until they see itD:
Then they dont deserve it 🤣
like who the fuk is gonna look up "spectral throw" in 2026 when there's 3 people on poeninja playing it besides me? but then they look at the vids and pob and go "damn that shit fire maybe i should try"
Then I hope your audience of 3 can pay attention. 🙂
1 out of 3 maybe ^^
bruh this just a scam fr, all it does is hurt off meta build postersD:
Then make the same complaint I did and ask for the build creation spammers to be moved to their own service channel.
Why should this be scam ? i dont get it sry
Because the temporary solution last night was to increase slowdown to 1h
You could also go one further and complain about formatting for people doing this
Uber eater
YoutubeLink
Uber Exarch
YoutubeLink
They just take up entire pages for no reason other than being seen better than anyone else.
it doesn't stop "spam" at all, people are still gona post their build off cooldown. all it does is make it more likely for offmeta builds to be buried. if somebody wants a bv build then they can just search bv and see 999999 people, but nobody is gonna search for my specific build bc they don't know that it even exists
1h is more then ok, clear channel and ppl can search in searchbar.
who cares bruh? their message is gone after like 5 seconds lmao
ye but the difference is meta builds are still gonna have people searching for them
If you don't want to contribute to cleaning the channel up but you want to complain you're not being seen, then don't complain. 
so they gonna show up regardless bc people are gonna look it up. adding a cd does nothing lmao. there are literally 33 people in the entire league playing spec throw, nobody gonna look my shit up and see it. the only hope i have is people seeing my post and going "wait he's cookin"
I'm posting a 3 mirror build and will be posting another 12 mirror one later today. Keep posting. Get seen eventually.
And anyways, you're complaining to the wrong person.
ye ik that's what im doing off cd, but i feel like this change is pointless and all it does is harm builds that rely on being seen
I'm just relaying what happened last night. I didn't change the cd myself. Don't shoot the messenger and all that
oh ye im not attacking you, my b if it came off that way. just seems a lil goofy frfr
I don't fully agree with it being an hour permanently, but I do agree with it as a temporary measure to hold the channel down until Brian and team have time to fine tune them by adding posting parameters and separating things like build service sellers from it.
wait why tf are build service sellers posting in it? is there no custom service channel anymore?
No, this is what I brought up last night that lead to it being a 1h CD
oh there's not, we should prob add that lol
So... I guess it is kinda my fault it's 1h lmao
there's a lot of other custom services besides just build making, they should really just re-add the og channel so they all post there instead of spamming build wts with ads lmao
Yeah, I brought that up and listed a few different services that could get collapsed into that channel.
cuz if the build makers are spamming there im sure the other channels are also being spammed by other custom services lmao
Brian already has a custom services channel made, he's just working out how to do the trusted roles for it and what the minimum is going to be.
And what services will go into it
ah ye i think on tft it was like exalted+ or some shit, idk why it was so high
well, i guess for build making it makes sense, since you basically just say "yo gimmie 5 mir and let me cook for awhile" lmao
Because it's a highly trusted service to have someone put together a full build for you.
Even paying when you get the gear, you put it together and it's not what you expect and suddenly you have questions
ye that's true, and i'm sure there's a lot of back and forth / fine tuning even after the build is done so that does make sense why it was a higher role then anything else
The build creators, in most cases, will handle those questions, but if something is really off? Yeah lot of scam potential there.
ye true
Personally, I always craft out my own sets. I've put too many hours into poe to not. But assuming I didn't and wanted someone to do it for me? I wouldn't ask a white/green name. Hell, I wouldn't even ask someone at the same rank as me.
lmao ye that's fair
crafting the gear is 90% of the fun of a build
AMEN BRO
^
i'm on build #20 of this league already. i literally just have a ton of fun crafting all the gear, spend like 2 days playing it, then sell on tft and go again lmao
When that mist hits just right 
i cant use mist that often 🙁
I hit a mist last night that was definite half chub material.
shii flipping builds on tft is also giga stonks just sayin
i went from 1mir to ~4 in my current build just build flipping lmao. not even overpricing, just self-crafting saves so much
you're right, it is.. but man. That's some hideout warrior shit I can't handle lol
im happy with my ssf bv chieftain
based asf
crafting the gear was fun
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragessf/character/Casie0046-1457/Casie_Mirage?i=2&search=name%3Dcasie
If I craft out a build, I gotta play it for at least a couple days before flippin it
in ssf i KNOW those boots were pain lmao
boots ? they are easy
Yeah that wouldn't be too awful. Lame still, but not the worst of that set in ssf
bruh having to self farm a ton of pairs and then self farm a ton of temples to dc? sounds aids
30% droprate
maybe i just hate temples too much lmao
If they sell 
The nebby is a wild ssf hit though lmao
fracced +2 all, nice
Svalinn ssf, beauty
I entirely glazed over the ssf foulborn MB 
i'm so fucking brunt out of temples bc i did my secret strat at the start of this league. buy temples for 20c that had sanctum of immortality room, rush to room, kill the dude and loot chest for %life/%mana gear (couple chaos) + temple mod gloves (like 30-50c) + stitched demon (a few div) then rush to boss praying for the sitched demon vial (roughly 2% drop rate, and worth like 50+d)
just make a build with like 1m dps and 300% ms and zoom through, i was making like 70d/hr lmao
I farmed breach basically all league. I'm a map blaster at heart and 15-20k kills per map was doin it for me big time
ye i wanted to blast breach but i had like a 15d build and low investment breach didn't hit the same
so i just blasted temple for 3 days straight and went from like 30d to 1mir lmao
I started it with ele spectrum, and farmed out the mirror for the bow in breach with that. The build couldn't have been worth more than the HH I had before I got the mirror bow
literally nobody even understands how temple / vial drop rates even works, like i had to go DIGGING in poedb drop rates to understand it. there's nothing on wiki or even reddit about how it works lmao
so shit is just a free money printer to all the minion builds that want stitched demon for ag
Actually... I did hit a good taming. I had a 52 taming that I guess was worth quite a bit at that point.
thats wild xd its super simple
So I suppose it wasn't full budget anymore. But that was just some dumb personal luck lol
nah it's like the whole "special rooms unlock higher drop rates" thing, plus things like "do i need to actually go into that room and kill the guy? or just rush to boss?"
Everyone uses temple for locus/dory's and that's about it
which, btw, i have no idea if you need to kill him or not, and there's absolutely NOTHING anywhere online ab it, so i just killed him to be safe (plus he has good ass loot lmao)
You're part of the like .2% of the playerbase who has explored that content more than those 2 rooms lmao
im a alva simp
How can i open a ticket?
fact slmao
a true minority. pretty sure there's like 5 of us out there lmao.
Guilty as well. If I go in and see the temple builder has made a crappy 8 rooms to Locus temple? UGH
self farming for soul flask is absolutely filthy tho, that shit is l ike 0.1% dr lmao
it was at fucking 200d on league start and i took one look at the weightings and said "nah fuck that" lmfaoo
you dont farm
soul catcher in the temple xdd
nah i mean the vial for it
to upgrade it, the vial is like 0.1% drop rate even with the boosted chances from having the special room for it
Hi,can someone help get Aul Bloodline or where write to search help?
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Rabbit's_Foot no weighting
ty
naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh is that the uber secret strat???
what's the drop rate on that shit?
twice as commen as doctor
quite rare but hitting vial of the ghost is copium
and the vials aren't weighted? holy fuck im farming this next league
i tested it in std
i think there is no weighting between the vials
i turned in like 100 sets and got 6x viall of the ghost
how can i open alva temple now
aight, fuck it we ball, im league starting pilfering strat next league grinding for those vials lmao
ghost was like 80-200d week one, imagine getting a stack of 10? insta buy-out the entire mirror market
ACTUAL !PRINTING
the card is not commen
ok but 2x as common as doc aint that bad. it's still rare as shit, but if we go pilffering? shii
nobody farming pilf on league start, so that shit cheap asf
How does one even get online for 16+ hours a day making builds for others? Don't they have a job or smth
ah bros anyone can use poehub *
maybe its there "job"
Very suspicious
What build will you go?
absolutely no clue lmao. it'll need to be sum pretty giga since pilf + 40-80% deli is pretty rippy
i'd say cws bc it's tanky enough for it but the clear will probably be dogshit
sounds a job for bv minionchad chief
maybe retaliate glad or something, since you can get pretty stupid damage and tanky with almost no cost
lmao ye but that build gonna be expensive if they dont change anything. although im 99% sure they gonna gut the minion part of the build
its way too stronk and too ez to drop into any build for them to keep it
how do you become a awakened service provider ?
get a bunch of vouches
u service men
u see a man and u service him till he is satisfied then he vouches all over your face in #✅│services-vouches
well shit i just wanted to sell my build i dont rly do stuff like 5 ways or gold rotas XD
?
you put your gear for sale on async and let it sell there
is tft back? as in a good server for once
no scam, no lowball
even if i wanted to do services my wardshatter can only rly do bossing
kind of wanted to sell it fast and together XD
ye go host boss carry, shi ez asf
does anybody need that this late into league
shi idk i see a ton of guys hosting em still so i would assume. shit, i have like 200 hours in the league already and the only t17 i've done is fortress lmao
builds rarely sell fast unless you're getting flipped on or your build is actually valuable
most of those are the boss runs that sadly cant do lycia dont work i get hit to often to clear that and the rest have chances of flask siphon mobs and i insta die if they even spit on me XD
ever since empyrians RMT friends got banned and jenebu not being able to fund his youtube vids wasting mirrors for views mf have completely stopped palying POE
https://pobb.in/cPvmKjWIdGi2 its my own take on the wardshatter it melts uber uber shaper
ok then put it on faustus because ive seen like a thousand russians playing this and one will probably buy your stuff
how can i sold my build here?
Hi, can anyone help me with Capture the Flag achievement? this is my last achievement
sadly gotta get the awakened service provider role and it seems there is no short cut to that
how can i get this role?
Providing services that get vouched by different players.
where do you see those i cant find anybody doing my version on poe ninja
ckaiba played this exact build
just a more polished version
no
Ranks below awakened were wiped, right? Or sth like that
where did you see it then ?
for sure
does he do yt? lol
67
we backkkkkkkk ❤️
im more amazed the 5 yos always defend him saying its donations from viewers 🤣 well kids are easy to fool anyways
empy had some issues with his wrist and has nothing to do with all of this. Also he stopped way before Jens Nebu got banned or should I say "Brian"?
Bismuth ore, xp, gold and gamba juice?
Scarabs could be anything, pack size, ore deposits, who knows?
reddit just went down maybe those poe reddit goblins can take a break from circlejerking
have you ever watched an empy stream? dude is probably the most TOS-following streamer after the ultimatum debacle, hes practically a saint lmfao
So, what do yall think is more fun - ele charlatan bv minion pact or chieftain bv minion pact?
charlatan ele has excel shrine and chieftain doesnt
What time does ziz gauntlet start tomorrow?
1
anyone killing olroth bloodline?
what chat do i go to if i want to buy a aul bloodline ?
Damn... gold rota prices went up since I last needed them 😂
thx
am i dumb or is 7 div for an originator map totally a scam
u would be correct, did u get scammed?
depends on the map rly. but mostly yeah. mirage originator might be worth that for group play if rolled well. or 8 mod also for group play with good rolls
no im just seeing a ton of landmine scams in the 8 mod wts
thats what i thought, ye buying maps are a landmine hotspot
report please with proof, name, etc #💀│service-reports
whats the punishment
unspeakable things
shiiii kindda tempted now
already did
Thanks for keeping the community a safer place
@bright hatch Hey can you please help with getting my exalt role back? I have my screenshot showing my vouches ready. I am just not sure where to send it.
hi guys any have desacrate a Pale Seraphim i need for my build
Nothing
How is the new leadership? Can you finally joke about stuff without getting blacklisted for eternity?
How do I get chambers of impurity? for 6th slot?
6th slot? you mean my maps can get juicier?
I dunno I thought I read it somewhere
you need to complete a 10 boss Maven invitation
and a t17 to get extra slots
What's the joke
thanks for asking because i didn't know about the maven invitation one
np
Back
@hollow raft aul
🥹 mistype sorry i dont have aul atm
people i need abyssal king in delve, for challange.
@hollow swallow aul
@deft jetty aul?
@fathom wagon Hello, I need full AFK - Aul CARRY for 5 divine!
@quaint lodge #🛡️│general-support
Blacklist is fireeee
Where restore
I am exalted service provider @bright hatch hook me up fam
Also can u hook me up with a job? I js finished my bachelor's in compE
I saw that reaction
Who laugh
why are there 90 div items in #💎│item-showcase ?
where is the vouching channel
any1 else having issue on joining another player HO? like a huge ah spike of network on F1?
could be my internet ngl
but joined a singapore realm and got a wapping 30k network ms
Any clue why risk scarab went up from 150c to 270c over night? Any new strat or what?
Hello good morning anyone here who can help me build necromancer minion build ( THE HIGH END BUILD ) IM WILLING TO GIVE YOU 100DIVS PM ME IF INTERESTED
thats tos
I'm new player sir
#📦│builds-wtb visit here kind stranger
ty
where can i post to buy Lycian Bloodline?
Guys can someone help me carry to orloth boss?
damn maintain
Whats the maintenance for?
My pc keep on bsod'ng since last night.
Yea they had to fix this lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfGWfNoSsgI
lmao
You can just delete ubers with something like 300 zombies that all pop at once lol

Whats the point of removing image posting with the new server?!?
Can't even show off my drops now wtf
EDIT: The poe2 chat has image but not poe. this is discrimination!
to many naughty abusers posting things they should not because they cant help themselves, ruins it for ua all, thats why,
try now
yeah thats an understatement haha, i did get a few good gifs tho ngl, my rat hands fav some of them disgusting gifs xD
you gotta work extra hard here to get banned now so
we dont have mirror service now?
what could be the possible issue i only bsod in poe1? any experts?
RAM issue?
I dont know, my RAM is fairly new tho, bought it like 3months ago...
Tried stressing the CPU to other games and its all normal.
any code you see when bsod?
kernel data inpage error
could be my GPU my main suspect
then maybe check your ssd
HI
to see if theres any bad sector
yeah, it is storege issue, or RAM
Checked in on crysdalk disk and it says normal
all blue light on the left side in crystal disk?
did you run a ram check on windows itself
Yeap all blue
if ram and storage both being normal, reinstalling windows maybe your last hope
well yeah i guess, tried reinstalling thhe game too.
or just reinstall game on another disk
i mean try to do a ram check first
being new not meant to be no problem with the RAM
ill try it now and get back here.
although the possibility is kind of low
@bright hatchcan i ask when linking is live again?
when ggg approves the dev tools i think
😢 I know, I know, actually I wanted to ask about the current progress.
i mean i dont think he would know, u would need to ask someone in ggg

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pretty much what @manic dust said. we're at the mercy of ggg

blessings be to ggg
god bless poe
Wait, wasn't this estimated to be way, way higher priced?
the last i've seen is 50 mirrors but i just gambled 1000 belts rn. Had no idea it was worth this much
Wassup everyone 🙂 How are y'll. I'v got a question, may be anyone got relevant pob for poison molten strike pathfinder, tanky version.
@bright hatch hey there is there a possiblity to get my rank higher! been with tft for over 5 years now and my highest role was awakened.
hit up services wts and get going!
@bright hatch i meant exalted just before awakened
exalted is after awakened
oh damn im not representing myself good here i meant ascended
what are you trying to ask im confused now
to get higher rank in vouches i had before leadership changed
now i only have 125 vouches and i was before ascended just got the ranks muddeled up

lel
I already did like 300 belts
is gauntlet ssf?
yes sir
darn
hcssf even
After, I think (this is just my opinion), but an hard reset of the vouches system, and therefore a reset of people’s vouches, would not be a bad idea. Yes, it would be painful to remake the vouches, but at least it will give a system of vouches where people will have offered real services, it would give a real value to the vouches ranks.
services before arent "real"?
hmm
it’s quite poorly said but yes; before you could make yourself vouche for almost anything (although it was modified for certain services, that almost recent). It gave people who had access to useful lounges, like the build sale (for example), and who was doing really not terrible services, or selling things not terrible at all. it’s in that sense there, I was saying this
whats something that u can get vouch for that u dont think should have?
time lost like @bold mesa posted !"annul"!
did it sell? I see only one that is listed for 150
some people theorized its price is realistically at 400-500 though.
better change all your passwords, unlink your acc, delete everything authorized to use your poe acc, and keep your game on 24/7! ggs
There are plenty of ways to "guarantee" this, but to do this you should not offer people who want to make themselves vouches something to make themselves vouched too easily, like the veiled craft modifiers of the crafting bench before the betrayal rework.
Once upon a time, I had a friend who got his role in this way, and in less than two days, maybe 3.
It was the part that it was “too easy” to get that role that, personally
its a crafting service, and people are giving their items to you, you should 100% get vouched, i dont see anything wrong with that
nah i think crafting bench is fine. it takes a lot more trust to trade over a multi-div item to a complete stranger then to just join their party and enter into their map and sit afk while they kill boss like boss carries do - especially since all the power to scam is in the buyer (they can just not pay after)
boss carries should be unvouched unless the carry is doing your map your loot, but ik all the mfs will be up in arms over it
since you do literally 0 work involving 0 trust as the seller of your own map lmao'
