Tinkers Post - Please put your favorite combos here

[chilly ibex]

.....

[subtle tree]

you need so much of this just to have a chance at getting any parts.

[chilly ibex]

Wdym

Why

[subtle tree]

every ingot you smelt gives you 1 mb.

so you need as many ingots as mbs needed for each part.

[chilly ibex]

...

[orchid nimbus]

That’s miserable lol

[subtle tree]

however.

all you need to make neutronite is throw an iron ingot inside an assembled fusion reactor.

so break one block, throw several thousand iron, and close it.

but you will have an explosion that 1 shots you, and you'll irradiate the entire area

[orchid nimbus]

Again, Sakura dimension LOL

[subtle tree]

LISTEN.

IM NOT SMART.

I THOUGHT IT WONT BLOW ME UP AND IRRADIATE MY BASE.

the evolution of minecraft is crazy.

[modest tulip]

Or you just wait for mobs to drop the blade, I’ve got a neutronite small blade from my enderio spawners

[modest tulip]

What should I build with this?

[subtle tree]

Does this have a neutronite handle?

You might want one because it gives a 1024% damage boost.

but -80% melee speed

[modest tulip]

I have a neutronite small blade on my katana, I can’t actually melt the neutronite down these are the parts I found. I’m wondering what I can use the large plate for

[subtle tree]

Oog

[chilly ibex]

Hammah

Idk what the stats are tbh so idk

Oh, yea hammer..more mining speed but melee damage is good too

[orchid nimbus]

I’d say hammer, melee damage doesn’t seem good enough to use over other things although I don’t know what supreme density or ionizing do off hand

[modest tulip]

What’s the best hammer you can make? Right now I’ve got a Osglas (whatever that material is) hammer head and 2 large plates with an activated chromatic steel tough handle

[subtle tree]

supreme density increases damage or armor, ionizing has an overtime effect.

[modest tulip]

Anyone know how plastic works? Does it really give upgrade slots if you just use it a bunch?

[chilly ibex]

Yes but not really worth

Those extra slots are good if you don't mind your tool not being very good

Imo, you're exchanging base stats for the exact same increases you'd get through adding the upgrades for that stat you want...

like rose gold has really shit durability but decent mining speed so if you use rose gold on multiple parts, you'll be spending multiple of those "extra" upgrades for the same stats you'd get from using different materials *which in this example would be durability

[orchid nimbus]

The only fringe case I can think of is if you ABSOLUTELY NEED like one or two slots to get to unbreakable

[chilly ibex]

That's SUPER debatable because you can upgrade your early game tool to an endgame tool without making one entirely from scratch so if you're swapping parts out, you're stuck with rose gold/plastic until you can get slots through upgrades without compensating

Not saying you shouldn't but it's recommended

[orchid nimbus]

This is also for like, super peak min max tinkers btw. Like end of the day make what you want as long as it does what you need it to, but also know a min max unbreakable hammer chewing through a 3x3 of stone like an efficiency 5 pick cuts through netherrack is very satisfying to see

[chilly ibex]

Vein hammer my beloved

[orchid nimbus]

I’m talking like, speed boost sprinting and the hammer keeps up efficiency

[chilly ibex]

Right

[orchid nimbus]

See there’s where we differ, I’m just a sucker for the sledge. I can’t get used to a vein hammer for the life of me

[chilly ibex]

I love vein hammer

You can't get disintegrate crystal on a regular sledge

If you get step height and just a bunch of movement speed, the cone shaped mining won't be an issue

[orchid nimbus]

Eh, I mean osgloglas with a voltaic crystal does what I need it to but I get what you’re saying

[chilly ibex]

Well, you can have osgloglas, voltaic, ACS/and disintegrate all on the same tool

That's like, the best vein hammer possible

Fortune 6 built in to the tool and a lot of base mining speed already, extra redstone upgrades are optional

[orchid nimbus]

Oh I have a silk touch sledge, I like not having to smelt for stone lol

[chilly ibex]

Disintegrate doesn't matter when you put unbreakable and you'll still have 1 or 2 slots left over for whatever

[chilly ibex]

That's fair, I enjoy manual mining

Being able to get thousands of diamonds within mere minutes is beautiful

[modest tulip]

So are the upgrades you unlock with the plastic tied to the part? Like if I unlock the upgrades can I not swap the plastic out eventually?

[orchid nimbus]

You can swap it out, but you’d have to remove the upgrades

Say your hammer has 4 upgrade slots, you put on a plastic handle to add 1 and now it has 5 slots, then you use all 5 slots. If you want to take that plastic off, you have to get rid of an upgrade so you have 1 empty slot that can be removed

[pulsar lodge]

the bonus slots are tied to the modifier/trait effect, which comes from the part

so indirectly they are

it should be handled in the same way that base tinkers' handles it with Rose Gold and similar materials, as the extra slots are granted by the modifier effect directly

[modest tulip]

I see, and is there a limit to how many upgrades can be added to a plastic part?

[pulsar lodge]

yes, the limit is based on a configuration setting, which is set at 3

[modest tulip]

Ah I see. So probably not worth it then over the densium I have equipped now. Thanks for explaining

[subtle tree]

Oh dude I got my cleaver post-nether and it stayed with me all the way until I got neutronite 😭

[orchid nimbus]

I made my tinker pickaxe from the moment I got my first way to melt ore and started with iron and a stone handle, it’s stuck with me the whole way

[warm star]

anybody got some good early game armor and weapon suggestions to kill the wither?

[chilly ibex]

trap the wither in a decent sized cage and it becomes hilariously easly

[subtle tree]

i think its a 5x5x5 cage

dont quote me

[chilly ibex]

Needs to be 3x3x5 on the inside

[warm star]

well, followup question if that's so easy. any good pre-nether gear? should i just stick with diamond armor and whatnot?

[orchid nimbus]

Best prenether is pneumaticraft steel

[chilly ibex]

vanilla armor is awful....in fact, any armor that doesn't do anything special is awful

[orchid nimbus]

I dunno, prot 5 diamond got me my first dragon kill this pack

[chilly ibex]

must've been able to get really close for it to not use it's breath attack

[orchid nimbus]

I mean it was asleep so I got right up against it

[chilly ibex]

yea, luck

[modest tulip]

What are the best maile to use? Ended up doing neutronite for all 4 armor pieces

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel is the best maille

[modest tulip]

For all 4? Thinking proctocite for the chest maile because it negates all harmful effects. Right now I got proctocite chest maile, chromatic steel legging maile and not sure of other 2

[plain horizon]

just cheese it with the iron's root spell

and fight it on the nether roof so it doesnt destroy anything of value and the arena is nice and flat

[plain horizon]

pretty sure that and manasteel are bis for normal mode yea

[hidden lotus]

could anyone walk me through what the best weapon available for me at my stage is?

i'd highly appreciate it

[orchid nimbus]

Have you used the search in discord to see if what stage you’re in has been discussed here before? What stage are you in? What mods have you progressed and to what degree? What’s your preferred playstyle?

[hidden lotus]

i just entered nether, i don't know if i want to say that i've progressed in any specific mod too much yet, i like playing melee / close range. I don't necessarily need to know what i can make precisely right now but if i could get something like a roadmap or a specific end goal it'd be very helpful as i'd be targeting the specific mods necessary to make whatever i need to make.

[orchid nimbus]

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If I were playing the pack from the start again I would do a cleaver. Maybe blizz enderium and manasteel handles, manyullyn blade and blaze netherite large plate

[valid pecan]

can anyone give me expert mode tool and armor recommendations?

[warm star]

how can i get on the roof?

[hybrid crystal]

you can use the piston trick to break bedrock afaik

just extend a piston and then pick up the bottom half with a cardboard box

I haven't tried it in this pack but it usually works

because it's a vanilla bug but you use mekanism to make it easier to do

[dusk arch]

do you mean the compressed iron? can't find anything named steel under pneumaticcraft

[subtle tree]

Pneumatic steel is from tinkers advanced.

You make it using pneumatic craft. But it's a tinkers advanced item.

[dusk arch]

i found it, thank you - is it even worth going into pneumaticcraft just for this pre-nether?

[subtle tree]

You can go pneumatic craft for:

Sick ass drone logistics
Minigun
Modular, upgradable power armor(early mek-suit essentially)
And pneumatic steel.

But if you're just going for the steel.. I'd say not wroth it.

[dusk arch]

i'm trying to play for the technomancy mage fit, just trying to find the easiest playable armor until that boss fight

[subtle tree]

You'll want a pneumatic suit for the speed and flight advantage

[dusk arch]

what do you mean?

[subtle tree]

What are you trying to get in technomancy. The mechanical scrap?

It drops from the harbinger.

You can beat that guy with speed and range damage.

[dusk arch]

the witherite ingot to combine with engineer's pants

and the rest of the pieces

[subtle tree]

also... Armor won't do much for the harbinger because he does so much damage that it doesn't matter.

Like, he will 1 shot you with some attacks.

[dusk arch]

i see

pretty lost on what best to do next then i guess

[subtle tree]

eh just find things they give you a speed or height advantage (like jumping high and flying)

Most catac bosses get stomped on if you're not on the ground, or are too fast.

[dusk arch]

finding that direction from pre-nether is the hard part 💔

[subtle tree]

pneumatic suit

Not biased BTW!!

[dusk arch]

what is the pneumatic suit? i cannot find it

[subtle tree]

Pneumatic armor.

PNC.

Chest plate leggings and the likes.

Which are deeeep in pneumaticraft

[chilly ibex]

this is all bosses wdym

[subtle tree]

the focus is the harb

[chilly ibex]

i guess but 1 shots are a general "any boss can do this" kinda thing

[subtle tree]

alright yeah my fault

[hidden lotus]

could somebody teach me how to read the spreadsheet for tinkers? i've look at it multiple times but never quite grasped how you're supposed to navigate through it

[chilly ibex]

what are you confused about exactly

it's just like reading any other chart

[hidden lotus]

okay, i meant like i find it difficult navigating it

now, i might just be braindead for spreadsheets in general or i might just be it for this specific spreadsheet

[chilly ibex]

the tabs at the bottom are pretty self explanatory

[hidden lotus]

yes, but how do i choose or pick whatever i want?

[chilly ibex]

based on the stats...? traits are important too

[hidden lotus]

like i said, the problem is highly likely just me

either way, now that YOU out of all people are here (you're pro at like everything as far as i've understood) maybe you could point me in the right direction? 😁

[hidden lotus]

please 😢

[chilly ibex]

bruh....idk how to help you read the spreadsheet

just look at the material names and then at the top are the individual stats

[hidden lotus]

no no haha, i mean, give me like a decent setup for a hammer and a weapon (materials and maybe modifiers as well)

don't teach me how to read the spreadsheet 😹

[chilly ibex]

first you said you were having trouble navigating it, now you're saying you don't want help reading it.....

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[hidden lotus]

if you tell me a setup i'd be able to skip reading it, get it?

so far from looking more at the spreadsheet i was thinking of making something like a hepatizon hammer? idk how materials for the handle and stuff interact with the rest of the tool tho

[chilly ibex]

the point of tinker's is experimentation, also stop pinging with every reply

[hidden lotus]

and if i don't mind just being told what to make? idk if i'm too interested in experimenting with tinkers.....

[chilly ibex]

different parts have different stats but the traits remain MOSTLY the same with some exceptions between tools and armor

[hidden lotus]

i get that, but say i make a hepatizon hammer head, what would you choose/recommend for the binding and rod?

[chilly ibex]

probably just focus on mining speed since hepatizon's mining speed by default isn't anything special

[hidden lotus]

its mining speed (according to spreadsheet) is at an 8 which is like pretty way up there, am i misunderstanding something?

[chilly ibex]

8 mining speed is like...decent

yea it's the best for when you get to the nether but there's better options you can get soon after like osgloglas which has iirc the 3rd hghest mining speed?

[hidden lotus]

hows this sound, tell me if you'd change anything: hepatizon head, 2 refined obsidian plates and a hepatizon tough tool rod

[chilly ibex]

doesn't sound too bad

[hidden lotus]

thanks a lot for ur help fam

[warm star]

What's a good expert mode set (armor and weapon)? Just got to the great beneath.

[modest tulip]

Is there any ability for creative flight for tinkers armor or just the elytra?

[pulsar lodge]

no creative flight for tinkers' armor

[subtle tree]

there's only creative flight for he.. who can fly creatively...

[modest tulip]

Anyone know what fortune level is added for proctocite?

Nvm it’s in encyclopedia

[hidden lotus]

anyone got a decent melee weapon i can make?

i have access to netherite/ancient debris but not osmium (@ expert mode)

[orchid nimbus]

[hidden lotus]

oh, nice! i don't really have access to blizz enderium yet so i might just put blaze netherite as a handle and a large plate. is there a reason for the manasteel? as far as i could see it didn't provide with too much damage boost and the repairing is already fixed on its own with the blaze netherite and its trait allowing to repair the tool in lava, no?

[orchid nimbus]

Mana steel repair is a lot quicker than blaze netherite

Realistically I’d say fluix if you can make that and have the charger set up

[hidden lotus]

okay, does it constantly repair with the passive standard mana regen that you have?

could you also perhaps specify the modifies for it as i really struggle knowing what i SHOULD prioritize every time.

[modest tulip]

I would use stone or another cheap resource for the head until you get more resources. I used a stone hammer with the best materials I had for the other parts so that it was quick mining but I could repair it with stone

[orchid nimbus]

Damage. Put as much as you can to make the damage number go higher, that’s all that a cleaver wants

Prioritize sharpness, and that’s why blizz enderium is good it gives it a nice damage boost

[orchid nimbus]

Only use stone as a head for anything if it’s your first tool, almost anything is better

[orchid nimbus]

As long as you have a source of botania mana to charge your stuff it’ll use that to repair

[hidden lotus]

ah, i don't have that yet. so the passive mana regen doesn't apply to the mana repair...?

[chilly ibex]

You can get blizz enderium right as you hit nether though

[hidden lotus]

oh wut... how????

[chilly ibex]

Because they spawn in the overworld?

The mob

[hidden lotus]

right, is there a specific place or something?

[orchid nimbus]

Anywhere in the overworld that’s considered icy I believe

[hidden lotus]

aight thanks a lot <3<3<3

is there some kind of hammock or something in the game that can turn day into night?

[modest tulip]

Not sure about that, but you can use Ars Nouveau and Occultism to change the weather and stuff

[chilly ibex]

Ars can do a lot of things with weather and day time

[dusk arch]

is the consensus for expert still activated chromatic steel armor? or is blaze netherite better?

[hybrid crystal]

For weapons or armor?

[dusk arch]

was asking about armor, but am also interested in weapons

[hybrid crystal]

So I haven't looked at armor but for melee weapons is definitely neutronite + chromatic steel

[hidden lotus]

what materials gives an additional abillity slot?

or upgrade slot

either one, i know there is the draconic modifier for a slot but materials?

[hybrid crystal]

The only ones I know are rose gold and plastic

but both give upgrade slots

[hidden lotus]

alright thanks a lot mate

[chilly ibex]

uh chromatic steel is master mode..

blaze netherite will never be better though

[dusk arch]

..since when? every expert build at the top of this thread talks about chromatic steel and i didn't see anything ingame that would delay it to the end?

[chilly ibex]

iridium

[dusk arch]

isnt chromatic steel basalz signalum, blitz lumium, blizz enderium and blaze netherite?

[chilly ibex]

1. i'm literally watching discord
2. blaze netherite was replaced with iridium a long time ago

[dusk arch]

then i guess literally every expert armor suggestion in this thread is outdated :/ what's the consensus for expert armor then?

[chilly ibex]

still relatively the same

blaze netherite + blizz enderium

PNC armor gets you through early and most of mid game though

[dusk arch]

i see, thanks

im more looking to play blaze netherite until the technomancy mage one from that boss i forgot the name of

[hybrid crystal]

I mean tbf you can get all the materials in normal mode, at least the tinkers ones

because mobs drop the armors/tools you can dissasemble

[chilly ibex]

i...guess? but the chances of that are insanely low...

to say you CAN get them in normal mode is pointless

[hybrid crystal]

Not really, just setup a cursed earth farm and you can get the sfuff in a couple hours

the main pain is just sorting through all the gear

I got my neutronite from a mob farm

aswell as all the dragonsteel I have

which was more than enough to make dreadsteel armor 4x over

[dusk arch]

what do you use as the kill block? wasn't there some issue with some mobs not being able to die from cursed earth?

[hybrid crystal]

just a mob masher, you could use deployers to kill the diamond dudes but I just let em live

I don't run it 24/7 anyways

it's too many mobs when you speed it up with redstone pulses

[dusk arch]

i see, do you just turn it off with a redstone lamp or something lol

[hybrid crystal]

😭

I feel called out

*Yes that is exactly what I do

Also just be sure to put the off switch a bit away because the mob quake will kill you through walls

because its fun like that

[dusk arch]

bet, thank you

do you push them with fans?

[hybrid crystal]

nah, I tp them with an ars portal

as soon as they spawn

here's what it looks like without shaders, the shaders make the portal invisible

[dusk arch]

ooh, interesting

[trail falcon]

what tool binding should I use? I have no access to space so i can't make the matter dismantler or whatever
i have the hepatizon tool handle and electrum pickhead

[summer quiver]

p

[subtle tree]

the p tool binding

[sudden sierra]

hi, i'm wondering if it's worth making tinker's tools when i already have enchanted netherite, i've never used tinker's before and JEI is showing the damage will be lower on most tools i think i can make at this stage (expert)

[orchid nimbus]

With the abilities and modifiers tinkers gives weapons and tools, tinkers stuff blows anything vanilla out of the water

[sudden sierra]

Thanks! I'll have a play around see what I can make

[orchid nimbus]

There’s plenty of advise and builds posted here if you need help

[trail falcon]

^^^

[orchid nimbus]

Tool binding for what, pick head make me think pickaxe but it’s never specified. Also, are you wanting a pick for silk touch? Fortune? General tunneling? Tool binding, if I’m remember correctly, only gives the material modifier so intended use changes any potential answer

[dusk arch]

is it wise to do a different maille on each piece of blaze netherite armor?

such as, blizz enderium maille on one piece, basalz signalum on another, blitz luminum on another, for all the different buffs? or is there a downside for doing this

[tough sluice]

Isn't heavy armor with prot 4 better than blaze netherite?

[orchid nimbus]

Couldn’t tell you offhand for sure, but you may as well get the tinkers armor and upgrade it when you’re able since the abilities you can put on it are really good and in the end, cataclysm bosses are gonna basically one shot you either way

[chilly ibex]

doubt

also people don't use blaze netherite for the plating..they use it for the maille

the only thing i've seen COMPARABLE to tinker's is the pneumatic armor set...

[subtle tree]

im a literal fiend.

I smell whenever pnc is mentioned

[chilly ibex]

me whenever ars is mentioned:

https://tenor.com/view/yes-lawd-my-precious-gif-13073178

[red wren]

is there a easy way to find draagons

just got to the nether aand iev been running around for hours and havent found one yet

[chilly ibex]

1. Wrong channel
2. No
3. Dragons spawn in the overworld
4. Reaching the nether doesn't cause dragons to spawn

they aren't mode locked in the first place

[red wren]

i know theyre not inn the nether was just saying that as to where im at in the game. i ran around the overworld for hours and found none only one skeleton

[orchid nimbus]

They’re just pretty rare

[dusk arch]

i used it for the plating..

what's the point of using it for maille? isn't the whole idea behind using it as plate as it's self repairing, and you still want to use the enderium/basalz/lumium maille for the buffs

the fact that it also gives you the netherite upgrade on it without taking an upgrade slot is nice aswell

[remote gyro]

What are yall using for mining in expert mode?

[subtle tree]

a drill

[valid pecan]

mining gadget or matter manipulator

since this is the tinkers thread, then matter manipulator

[remote gyro]

Any material recommendations? So far its looking like blaze netherite, cobalt, hepatizon

[orchid nimbus]

Throw osgloglas in there somewhere, it’s really good for mining

[obsidian oyster]

so is the best expert mode armor blaze netherite maille with blizz enderium plating rn?

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah pretty much. Only real step ups from there is dragon steel plate and chromatic maille

[obsidian oyster]

why not netherite plating with blizz enderium maille?

and what abt weapons should i go with a cleaver or dual wield daggers or something

[orchid nimbus]

Oh wait I didn’t realize what order you put those in. Yeah blaze netherite plate and blizz maille

[obsidian oyster]

gotcha

[orchid nimbus]

Pure raw melee damage output in this pack, unless I missed something, is cleaver. Its downside is attack speed but there’s so many ways to up your attack speed outside of tinkers that it’s basically a non issue

[obsidian oyster]

with redstone or something else

and are you still able to add extra upgrade slots or no

[orchid nimbus]

That being said that’s for “biggest dps number” sake, as long as you do enough damage to kill the thing before you die use whatever

[orchid nimbus]

Oh no no no, NEVER put attack speed upgrades on the cleaver itself. The natural scaling on tinker cleavers makes any attack speed upgrade basically worthless. Cleaver upgrades are 100% sharpness, then whatever else makes the damage number bigger

[obsidian oyster]

i see

what other options are then

spells?

[orchid nimbus]

There’s other mods that give you attack speed that doesn’t suffer the curse of tinker scaling, like the skill tree. There’s some spells I think that give you temporary attack speed up at well

[obsidian oyster]

awesome

ok last question what materials should i make the cleaver out of

is there any outstanding materials

[orchid nimbus]

Same as the upgrades really, whatever makes the damage number higher. If you search cleaver in this chat there’s some good builds

[obsidian oyster]

gotcha

thank you so much you have saved me literal hours of research

[orchid nimbus]

No problem, I’ve been using tinkers since its earliest release I don’t mind helping out

[obsidian oyster]

last time i played was before tc3 and its changed soooo much

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah tc3 changed a lot, but there’s enough still the same that I make due

[subtle tree]

Relatively cheap weapon for early game!!

[stark dagger]

any recommendation for material to increase durability on normal mode for a sword?

[chilly ibex]

Uh chromatic steel isn't early game...

[chilly ibex]

Diamond + emerald for basic increase and you can do reinforcement once you reach nether I think?

No, it's emerald with obby for reinforcement..I was thinking melee prot

[stark dagger]

ok ty

[obsidian oyster]

whats the easiest way to melt blizz enderium?

[orchid nimbus]

Like, melt it in the smelter or make the alloy

[obsidian oyster]

melt in the smelter

[orchid nimbus]

Because melting it in the smelter I believe just takes blazing blood

[obsidian oyster]

apparently its not hot enough

i need at least overheated lava

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah that’s right, my bad. It’s honestly not bad to make though, and you can reuse the slime to make more

[obsidian oyster]

yeah

[stark dagger]

should i change my pickaxe binding to enchanted alloy for the veinmining effect or should i change it to rose gold so that i can get an extra upgrade slot to put a lucky effect on it?

i dont have more upgrade slots

[orchid nimbus]

If it’s between those two only, enchanted alloy 500%

[stark dagger]

ok ty

[orchid nimbus]

Personally, I have the pickaxe with vein miner and fortune, and its only use is mining ores. If I need to dig a tunnel I use my high mining speed silk touch hammer and if I’m going to be clearing a large area I use a mining laser

[stark dagger]

yeah i use both a hammer and a pickaxe

[subtle tree]

Neither is neutronite and irradium and all the upgrades I've used for the sword 😭

[remote gyro]

What's good end game armor materials?

[subtle tree]

end-end game? or early-end game?

if you awnt end game armor just mek suit 😭

[chilly ibex]

mek suit suuuuuuuucks

PNC armor is the true mek suit

[subtle tree]

unbiased of course.

i agree

[remote gyro]

i am using a split of iron's spell armor, probably using just a tinkers chestplate just so i can throw ringbearer on it and get two more mechanical braces

I am not sure what is early end or end game end game. I have mekanism up to antimatter and stuff like that

[obsidian oyster]

any reccomendations for upgrades in for armor other than revitalized?

[orchid nimbus]

Melee protection, other than that whatever fits your play style

I like having step up on my armor, and a bit of movement speed. Plus there’s the classic water breathing on the helmet

[obsidian oyster]

how do i bind an osgoglas tinkers weapon to a storage terminal from integrated dynamics?

[subtle tree]

poverty

[subtle tree]

bind it to a chest.
connect the chest to a storage terminal.

you dont need to bind it to a terminal

[bronze raven]

wait how do u not get the explosion... or make it not explode?

[subtle tree]

You can't.

You toss the ingots into the fusion reactor and it'll insta kill you after you assemble it.

Just place it in the sakura dimension.

And have a totem on you, and wear a hazmat.

I made the mistake of having it near my base.

And killed all of my insane spell casters

[bronze raven]

Thanks thanks
Ill look into sakura dimension and do this once i get there🤣

[subtle tree]

The fusion reactor doesn't have to be powered or active for your information.

Just an assembled multiblock with iron ingots inside.

And all Neutronite ingots amount to 1 mb of Neutronite, so you'll need hundreds for the part you need.

[chilly ibex]

not hard when you can get thousands within minutes if you mine raw ores with fortune and then smelt it all down to double

[bronze raven]

Oh sh
Aight aight

God bless u🫡🫡🍻

[subtle tree]

yeah the only hard part is anti matter.

[trail falcon]

i need an expert mode tinkers weapon to make 🥲

this is my pickaxe btw

[chilly ibex]

idk what materials you used except blaze netherite

[trail falcon]

hepatzion handle i think and

shrug-- nevermind i might quit the mod since my frames started dropping

[chilly ibex]

you mean modpack

[lyric coyote]

Does anyone use oversime on tools? Tried doing some stuff with cinderslime/queen slime combo, and it just seems to convert way too slow to be useful

[orchid nimbus]

I rather just use a different material with a better modifier and just deal with repairing

If anything just use fluix to repair in an AE2 charger, or the ars Nuevo modifier that slowly auto repairs, I think the ability is called novice but I don’t remember the material

[lyric coyote]

Disappointing, bring back moss! TY for the info

[orchid nimbus]

Mending moss was always kinda lame imho, I always liked finding different ways to repair and saving the slot for something cooler

[lyric coyote]

I'm all about the convenience of not needing to carry repair materials :p

[viral echo]

guys, for end-game, wich one is stronger, the meka or pressurized armor ?

[chilly ibex]

just charge wirelessly or use mana

[hidden tinsel]

Anyone have suggestions for Expert mode daggers materials and modifiers?

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas and blizz enderium..increase base damage as much as mpossible

[subtle tree]

tinker contuct

[obtuse breach]

What's a good beginner armour pre nether

[chilly ibex]

Steel for plating, your choice of maillr

[subtle tree]

steel for pating

[sonic wyvern]

From my research online, meka seems like the "God armor" and pressurized seems to be more utilitarian and mid/lategame

[valid pecan]

mekasuit is stronger, but its wayyyyyyyyyy harder to get

[chilly ibex]

mekasuit sucks in mce2

[valid pecan]

oh noooo

why'd they do that

[chilly ibex]

it's not the dev's fault

i think

it's because of cataclysm bosses

[valid pecan]

oh

[sonic wyvern]

Wait what? I'm confused, why?

[orchid nimbus]

Mek suit has really high armor values, but cataclysm bosses (a big chunk of the required bosses) naturally bypass most/all armor and armor toughness

That’s why tinkers armor is so good, on top of being good armor against normal fights you also get abilities and upgrades that help offset the power of cataclysm fights

[valid pecan]

not related to the pack but does the quantum armor from advanced ae bypass that?

[orchid nimbus]

Couldn’t tell ya, I’ve never touched it

[waxen thicket]

just made a blaze netherite plate and blizz enderium set what modifiers do i put onto it? i know nothing abt tinkers so help is appreciated

[orchid nimbus]

Revitalized and melee protection are must haves, other than that whatever fits your playstyle

[chilly ibex]

yea, extra health is pretty much required if you fight bosses

[fickle barn]

think this would be anything good?

[kindred mountain]

Anyone got suggestions for an excavator? Matter Manipulator is too good and only gives me flint from gravel, instead of gravel

[orchid nimbus]

How far in are you? Either something that mines decently fast and is easy to repair or make it really fast and unbreakable

[kindred mountain]

Shoulda mentioned, yeah. Master Mode.

Looking for something fast and unbreakable

[chilly ibex]

Pretty sure mattock is like 2 or 3 tools in one yea?

[kindred mountain]

Mattock is a farming tool, axe, shovel combo. But an excavator is a 3x3 for dirt/gravel/sand.

[chilly ibex]

why not just make a silk shovel then with aoe..

if gravel is what you need, silk prevents flint

[kindred mountain]

Is shovel AoE a tinkers or an enchant?

[chilly ibex]

we are talking about tinker's right?

i would've specifically said non-tinker's

[kindred mountain]

Yes, tinker's. I just didn't know there was a shovel aoe ability/upgrade.

[chilly ibex]

there's upgrades to increase mining aoe

[kindred mountain]

I'll look it up. Any reccs for tool assembly?

[chilly ibex]

whatever you want ig if you're just wanting gravel?

[fickle barn]

@chilly ibex thoughts? Or are funny knives kinda obsolete now?

[chilly ibex]

i used daggers with rage glove and it was pretty funny

do i think they're GOOD though? ehhh

adam made a change to the base damage for daggers, almost halving it...

[fickle barn]

Katan better? Looks like they use the small blade too now so could use these 4 pieces of irradium for a blade

[chilly ibex]

why would you do full irradium instead of a variety

[fickle barn]

Obv not fully just 1

I have 1 voltai rod and the irra blade, can probs get enderium for 1 part and idk about fourth

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel?

[fickle barn]

Would that be better for a handle or a blade?

[chilly ibex]

blade, because voltaic is the only thing you need for handle

[fickle barn]

Ah so ig irra and chrome blade with voltaic and ender on handle

[chilly ibex]

yea

[kindred mountain]

With the Annihilate trait, which deals Explosion damage, is that just a type change? Or does that create an explosion on impact?

[sonic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/fireman-on-fire-gif-6314503928231119861

[drowsy jewel]

so, at nether, pre great below:
armor - blaze netherite plate + blizz enderium maille
weapon (im using katana, i like attack speed) - blaze netherite blade + blizz enderium blade + ??? handles

what abilities / upgrades should i use, also?

this is questions i have after digging through chat history to the best of my ability

[orchid nimbus]

Armor should almost always focus on revitalized then melee protection before anything, I personally use cleaver not katana so I don’t know the specifics of it but probably hard focus on sharpness and then attack speed. There’s enough ways in the pack to perma increase your attack speed though that you may be fine not putting it on the katana

[drowsy jewel]

what're the best ways to increase attack speed outside skill tree? i haven't run into any

[sonic wyvern]

There are quite a few curios that allow for it. Spitballing here, but try NEI search something like "attack speed -$weapon -$tool"

I can't access the game right now, but I'm assuming that $weapon and $tool will register correctly. If not, try listing off a few things by name like Axe, sword, etc. idk

I know that the Epic tier "Sun Stone" and "Moon Stone" charms give drastic buffs (including a flat +4 damage and +1.0 atk speed). It's the same item, but each only affects you in either day or night respectively.

There's also a curio for your hands that flat boosts attack speed by +0.2

[orchid nimbus]

I haven’t touched the pack in a bit but I also believe there’s a decent amount of attack speed buffs in the skill tree

[sonic wyvern]

Actually, now that I think about it, syntax will probably be better as "#Attack Speed #Slot:" since weapons and tools don't have a slot designatiom

[drowsy jewel]

sadly with this best thing to pop up is a single glove slot item, but the other one popped up with a solid iron's spell

[orchid nimbus]

Oooh I forgot about irons, yeah that spell carried me for a bit

[sonic wyvern]

If you push the efficiency% on the Secret Ingredient (or it's respective upgrades) from Majruz's Accessories, you can get a +2 tier bonus to potions. You can use this to make Potion of Strength 4, for +12 damage. And then I think you can make a sophisticated backpack auto-feed you them

It's a trick I plan to use for future bosses

Some guy in here managed to actually make tier 6 and 7 instant damage splash potions which were basically instakillers, so that was funny

I think it might be possible to make Strength 5 splash potions actually, I gotta test it.

[sonic wyvern]

Look through @UniqueAccessories and @Artifacts, there's a lot of fun ones. @Relics tends to have ones with varying degrees of bonus, although I think Rage Gloves will give offensive stacking boosts per-attack

@MajruzsAccessories (I think I spelled correctly) is basically all the items shown at the bottom of the quest book under "Trial of the Soul." I'm 14/15 maxed and just need to breed a few hundred animals to basically make a Perfect Soul of Minecraft... Although that's a lengthy process that I don't recommend unless you either really like fishing (I did), or side quests.

[orchid nimbus]

All this to say, pulling things back to tinkers, that I prefer the cleaver since it’s only real downside (attack speed) can be mitigated and even ignored outright

[sonic wyvern]

Trueee

That's why I'm abusing broadaxe lol

[orchid nimbus]

I got most of mine from fishing thankfully, that and there’s a glitch with tamed dragons and the taming animals one that makes it super easy to max out

[sonic wyvern]

That glitch was very funny to discover firsthand

[orchid nimbus]

It gets a little annoying when hand feeding them but overall pretty funny

[sonic wyvern]

I made 10 Perfects of them out of boredom before finally now just trashing them all

[drowsy jewel]

is cleaver generally the strat? i just despise slow attack speed tbh

[orchid nimbus]

It’s my favorite, you’re doing really good damage per hit and with the attack speed from other sources you swing fast enough to, last I tested, our damage the other tinker melee options

Plus again personal bias lol

[chilly ibex]

if you have access to osgloglas, i'd recommend that for blades and then blizz enderium + blaze netherite for handles

[drowsy jewel]

sadly, no great below yet; im attempting to gear up for wither fighting though

[chilly ibex]

silver is a high recommendation for wither since it increases damage against undead mob which is literally 90% of the entire game

[drowsy jewel]

gotcha

[chilly ibex]

i don't remember if the trait stacks...if not, steel is a good mix-in with silver just for extra base damage

[drowsy jewel]

silver/steel blades, blizz + blaze handle? is it any different for cleaver (save replacing a blade with a plate) and is cleaver normally just flat out better?

[chilly ibex]

cleaver and katana are interchangeable as of right now

you'll get higher base damage with the cleaver but more attack speed with katana

[drowsy jewel]

gotcha

im most of the way to blaze and blizz (short some blizz powder), and ive plenty of silver and iron laying around

what's good in the way of abilities to put on weapons? i know everyone said melee prot and rejuvenate for armor

[chilly ibex]

just throw diamond or emerald and netherite with tons of quartz

if you have blizz enderium, i HIGHLY recommend trying to add fiery because blizz enderium deals increased damage against burning targets

[drowsy jewel]

gotcha

welp! time to go find a bunch of netherite and cobalt

before i forget, are blizz spawns for the blizz enderium rare? where could i find em?

[chilly ibex]

cold biomes..think BLIZZard

[drowsy jewel]

ah, they're overworld spawns?

[chilly ibex]

yea..

[sonic wyvern]

Is the chromatic steel possible pre-end?

[chilly ibex]

no

you need iridium which...is end only

[sonic wyvern]

Damn, it looked like such a fun material to build with rip

[kindred mountain]

Question of opinion. Maxing out my new armor. Would people prioritize Reach or Strength abilities for chest piece?

[sonic wyvern]

Does the Strength just give the potion effect? Cause if so, you can automate that in other ways. And is the Reach just for blocks, or entities/attacks too?

[kindred mountain]

Strength is a 10% attack damage buff to all weapons, 2 level max

[sonic wyvern]

ooo

Then, the second question is a lot more prevalent

Because being able to attack something at a range before it can even touch you, is arguably 10x more valuable that hitting harder... Cause it might already be dead before it reaches you at range lol

[kindred mountain]

"Increases the maximum distance from the player this tool can mine, place blocks, and attack mobs by 1 block per level."

Most things can't hurt me anyways, so getting in melee isn't a huge issue. But it'd be neat for base building?

[sonic wyvern]

NGL I'd rather grab it just for the reach if you feel you have enough damage already

[sonic wyvern]

Block reach stacking is amazing for building

There's a few Curios that do it too

Tool Belt, Royal Hand, Chitin Claw to (paraphrase) name a few off the top of my head

You can search em by searching "#Slot #Block Reach" I think

[kindred mountain]

(Royal Gauntlet)

[sonic wyvern]

Didn't remember the right names, sry oops

[kindred mountain]

Not even a worry

The fact that the strength buff is just a flat 20% increase is just huge

[sonic wyvern]

fr

i wonder how it calculates with other strength buffs, the order of operations. like, i assume its added at the end after flat bonuses... but is it additive or multiplicative with other +20% buffs?

[pulsar lodge]

probably multiplicative

[plucky plank]

in terms of weapon durability, is making it unbreakable still the best option? or is using overslime and overmending a better alternative option

i havent played the newer version and heard making a wepaon unbreakable is costly+ not worth it

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel or voltaic crystal with wireless charging is still the best option.. as for actual 'unbreakable' status, it varies

most of the time it's easier to just bring repair kits with you

[plucky plank]

also i checked out some of the community builds and did some damage testing, something like the murasama and dreadsteel scythe has the same damage with less enchants, I was under the impression that if you wanted a good weapon for master you'd have to use the tinkers ones

[sonic wyvern]

im surprised the Dreadsteel scythe isnt just OP compared to stuff

[chilly ibex]

no it is

it pierces armor, including the ranged attack

[sonic wyvern]

[chilly ibex]

i can't remember if it's NEAR 100% armor piercing or if it just straight up looks at the code for armor and toughness then throws it out the window

[sonic wyvern]

sounds fair and balanced, i think we should nerf irons again.

[chilly ibex]

same

[sonic wyvern]

[chilly ibex]

or rather, just keep nerfing other things that don't need to be nerfed..

[sonic wyvern]

brother is actually raging rn about the irons restrictions mod addition lel

[chilly ibex]

who

[sonic wyvern]

my brother

[chilly ibex]

oh

[sonic wyvern]

he hasnt hopped into my world for like a week, and finally just got the update

[chilly ibex]

i'm waiting for a content update.....haven't played this shit in like months at this point

[sonic wyvern]

theres so much content already wdymmm

[chilly ibex]

like what

like i'm starved for an actual modpack that i'm playing 1.12 stuff

[kindred mountain]

Trying to get these final two upgrades for my armor is wildly difficult. Good lord.

[fickle barn]

Rip holy lance 😭 😭

[brisk kayak]

So ik blizzs spawn in cold environments but is there a more consistent way to find them?

[orchid nimbus]

Bigger cold biome 🤷

Easiest thing to do is find a way to catch one and stuff it in a spawner

[hot elm]

I'm curious if the tinkers meta has shifted at all

[fickle barn]

Oh yeah wasnt there a new melee weapon

[hot elm]

Also some new materials

[chilly ibex]

if you're talking MCE2 specifically, slightly but it's still mostly the same unless players found things that haven't been made public here yet

new materials would need to be added to the tinker's spreadsheet though....

[hot elm]

Mithril and Pyrium

[chilly ibex]

hrrr, i'd have to check the stats and traits to see if they'd be decent....

ehhh...... "Dealing damage can cause fiery explosions"

the 20% melee damage is pretty decent though, durability for heads is really good actually

ok the stats for mithril is kinda dogshit except mining speed for the head which is..about average?

"Dealing damage and mining blocks has a chance to restore mana"

for armor: "Exchanges mana for some protection"

hey @hot elm sorry to ping again but i'm noticing a lack of methods for obtaining pyrium parts currently unless i'm missing something...

the only things i'm noticing to obtain molten pyrium is throwing the boss itself into a smeltery (which will probably be impossible), or throwing the related music disc into the foundry but the disc isn't obtainable unless you HAVE a pyrium ingot to begin with.

does the Echo of Tyros boss drop pyrium on death or something? i've never interacted with it before

ok i have confirmed it does not....

[fickle barn]

Always drops 1-2 keys which u open the 4 magic vaults with

And u have a chance to roll a couple pyrium bars from them

Think the vaults are openable again after some cooldown

I think i got like 5 bars from 4 keys

[chilly ibex]

I never got keys

I killed the boss like 5 times

[fickle barn]

😳 😳

[chilly ibex]

Only things I got was like a stack of arcane essence, some boss drop to make really shitty armor, and one other thing I don't remember but it definitely wasn't a key

It might've been cinder essence

[noble ore]

how do i filter the normal expert and master tab in the search bar

[chilly ibex]

you don't

look at the pinned spreadsheet and it'll have 90+% of everything tinker's currently in MCE2

[noble ore]

o

[drowsy jewel]

so it's widely considered that maxxing out melee protection is better than rejuvenated?

[fickle barn]

Total of 10 levels of melee prot across the 4 armor slots iirc maxes it out

Rest should be dumped to revi

[chilly ibex]

you only need 80% melee prot across your entire armor set, so 20% on each piece

that's what it caps at

[fickle barn]

@chilly ibex hey i have a question

[chilly ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-discord-ping-discord-ping-gif-16396209923777559602

[fickle barn]

Is there a benefit in putting activated chrome on multiple armor pieces as mail (in empowered mode) vs just one?

[orchid nimbus]

Yes, the effects stack

[chilly ibex]

i THINK the trait stacks but i don't remember exactly

[fickle barn]

Ok neat

[chilly ibex]

you should put it as maille on the whole armor set either way

5% chance turns into 20% basically

[fickle barn]

Oh activated state (5% to cancel) is better than empowered (cancels up to 20%)?

Is protocite any good? I found a battlesign made from it

😳

[chilly ibex]

protocite is an endgame material

[kindred mountain]

Its a valuable material that's gated behind mekanism fission reactors. Been spending past few days building up my reactor just so I can get it and one other material at its level of difficulty. And you found it on a sign? Give me your luck.

[plucky plank]

which materials are optimal for katana parts?

[fickle barn]

I c. Ended up making a mail out of it since it seems to fully delete negative effects which sounds kinda cool

[sonic wyvern]

Wait, how did you extract the protocite from the sign?

[kindred mountain]

I went with a classic from the spreadsheet, but when I have my hands on antimatter, I'm considering how bad it'll be to have a Katana that potentially explodes in my face.

[plucky plank]

Any reason not to go voltaic instead

[kindred mountain]

For which part?

You'd get a -25% damage if you make a handle, and a blade would be a 1.5 reduction on damage

You'd also lose the benefits of Extra Dense if you replaced the head

You can play around with potential builds with a Tinker's Anvil

[sonic wyvern]

how do you turn weapons into materials like that? ive got a few dragonsteel/netherite swashers and other things id like to use

[kindred mountain]

If you put a Tinkers' item into a part builder, you can select which part of it to retain, with a chance of getting one of the others

[sonic wyvern]

...how

[kindred mountain]

Put a pattern in the left slot

[sonic wyvern]

[sonic wyvern]

yeah that literally just doesnt show up for me.

[kindred mountain]

What's the tool in question you put up there?

[sonic wyvern]

thats a mattock

but even with the same tool as you, it still doesnt work.

[kindred mountain]

Wild.

I'm still on the previous version, so maybe something changed

[sonic wyvern]

istg im about ready to downport at this point

too much bs keep arising with the new update

[plucky plank]

good comms

forgot about the downsides

[plucky plank]

also what do you do for durability? do you just always have a repair kit or did you make it unbreakable

[kindred mountain]

Oh my Katana just never breaks

[plucky plank]

howd u do it

[kindred mountain]

Beats me. Probably has to do with either having Extra Dense II or something that Activated Chromatic Steel gives.

Its a wild material.

[plucky plank]

strange

never tried that one before

maybe ill give it a try

[kindred mountain]

Look at it

It gives the benefits of four other materials

[plucky plank]

ye

i see that

idk ion understand ima just make it lol

[kindred mountain]

I've wound up with so many "This increases hardness" that that might be what's doing it

The fact that its got so many things making it sturdier all at the same time that even if I hit something, its durability doesn't go down

[orchid nimbus]

That katana will eventually break it’ll just take ages lol

In my experience with endgame materials unless you’re killing thousands of mobs with it you’re not gonna have to worry much about weapons breaking, more so armor and tools

[fickle barn]

Need to remove modifiers, in new version it uses venom bottle (smelt a spider eye, fermented eye or spider head) instead of pattern

1 bottle for every tool dismantled

So still very cheap

[sonic wyvern]

Well, I already down patched, but that's good to know since I had like 700 spider eyes lol

[fickle barn]

looks pretty interesting, might try to make one for the lols

[light sage]

what is good armor and weapon for early game

[fickle barn]

I just ran steel armor and a steel sword/katana

[light sage]

and what is the easiest way to get steel

[chilly ibex]

holy shit, 72 damage 😭

why not exchange the osgloglas for densium?
oh nvm i see why

[kindred mountain]

Glaive? Is that a new weapon in the new update?

Swiftesteststrike is really funny as an upgrade name

[fickle barn]

Missing 1 bar

Otherwise would have gone w dense

[chilly ibex]

1 bar?

[fickle barn]

Densium would drop speed from 1.5 to 1 but damage from 72 to iirc 93

[chilly ibex]

[fickle barn]

Its been pretty fun

[chilly ibex]

93? holy

[fickle barn]

Havent tried tho if it can damage cata bosses

Deletes wardens and that spellbooks firelord boss in mere seconds

👀

[chilly ibex]

cata bosses have stupid damage cap though

[fickle barn]

Found out that the pyro ingots can be melted to 5 ancient debris ea

[chilly ibex]

eh?

[fickle barn]

with meka crusher each of those ingots is 15 netherite scrap 😳

[chilly ibex]

where do you see this at?

[fickle barn]

There was a recipe in jei to smelt the ingots

Think it was like vanilla blast furnace

And youd get 5 ancient debris from smelting it

[chilly ibex]

oh smelting the pyrite

i thought you meant a way to get the ingot

[fickle barn]

Ahh no

[sonic wyvern]

What in the actual fuck am I looking at

[kindred mountain]

Nuclear bomb spear

[sonic wyvern]

[fickle barn]

A smole spear coated with poison karambwan paste idk

[sonic wyvern]

question, how do I access Activated Chromatic Steel BEFORE the end?

[kindred mountain]

Can't. You need iridium.

I guess you can hope that some piglin is holding an iridium sign, but that doesn't seem feasible

[sonic wyvern]

soooo

what you're saying is that if im lucky enough and scrap enough iridium tinkers tools, i can scrounge enough for armor and tools?

maille is what, 2 ingots each?

[kindred mountain]

Maille is 2 ingots each. You need 90mb for one ingot. You need 3 ingots of iridium to make 45mb.

[sonic wyvern]

...oh

so thats 48 ingots for a full set of armor

[kindred mountain]

For an activated chromatic steel maille, you'd need 12 iridium.

Correct

So, y'know, possible

but

[sonic wyvern]

time to doom 12 rats to forever fish fr

need those iridium swashers

[kindred mountain]

There's like, 67~ materials?

You're hoping an item pops out with one component being a Tier 4 material, and that's assuming that they're on the spawn table before you hit The End

[kindred mountain]

You'd need more than 12 imo, you're essentially trying to make Hamlet with Monkeys and Typewriters, but with Rats and Fish

[sonic wyvern]

[fickle barn]

Ethically, no.

Via cheese, yes.

[sonic wyvern]

i wish to know the cheese

[fickle barn]

Rat fishing is somewhere in the middle of those two

You put tons of fisher rats in some dark room, have them deposit their shit to a wormhole bound to a separate actuator, you trash all the nets, rods, possibly books, fish.

Another wormhole bound to that actuator next to your main storage

Then just every now and then check if the rats have fished any cool swashers

[sonic wyvern]

why does it need to be a dark room 😭

[fickle barn]

🙃

[kindred mountain]

Its what they deserve

[sonic wyvern]

[queen turret]

any beginner bow ?

[chilly ibex]

hardly anyone uses bows, especially early game

[queen turret]

what do i use for long range?

[orchid nimbus]

You could go for my option of “man I hope that flies close enough to swing my cleaver at”

[queen turret]

💔

[hot elm]

Any suggestions for how I could buff tc bows?

[fickle barn]

Enchanters bow with infinity and power

[fickle barn]

The lack of an accessible form of infinity is probs the biggest drawback.

While crystalshot technically is infinity, it does less damage than arrows can do, and is also gated behind nether

Meanwhile the actual infinity enchant book is just 17 xp levels, 15 lapis and 1 grain of infinity dust

[hot elm]

I could make crystalshot accessible

[rose scarab]

in expert mode what is the best maille?

[vague berry]

A lot of people would say blizz enderium is good

[fickle barn]

One blizz ender maille, one basalt signalum maille, one blitz lumium maille

4th is up to you

If u go w pneumatic plating, 4th maille probs as blaze netherite

w blaze netherite plating, maybe hepatizon?

[rose scarab]

i'm full blaze netherite plating

currently i'm using enchanter shield on my chestplate to repair it using mana. what are the alternative for mending the rest of the armor?

is there a mending using xp modifier?

or something like it

[fickle barn]

Novice (+ mage and archmage) regenerate durability with ars mana

Pneumatic steel uses compressed air over durability

Havent tested them yet, but signalum reinforcements sound like they would add an internal battery that starts using electricity over durability

[rose scarab]

thanks

i'm going to try them when I get home

last question, is there a trident alternative in tinkers? didn't find any

[fickle barn]

Javelin I think

Has a "Returning" augment that acts as a loyality equivalent by the sound of it

Theres also the tide trident and coral bardiche

[rose scarab]

looking for riptide augment

just got a drowned belt

i'm using it to fast travel a lot

but i got a coral lance which is kinda bad

[fickle barn]

Ortholance modifier through alex's caves might work

No idea tho

• getting that thing is kinda ass

Unless you get the pilfer spell and go around abyssal chasms until you find a deep one knight

[rose scarab]

got it

thank you

[fickle barn]

Might be worth making a test world and checking w creative if it works

[hot elm]

Just made Crystalshot obtainable pre nether.

https://github.com/adam9899/MC-Eternal-2/commit/bf92284e90df46fbc5a6ec980e98cce3d852c9af

[rose scarab]

whats the difference between spell protection and magic protection?

[chilly ibex]

Spell protection?

[rose scarab]

yes

exilite antimagic

it says it gives spell protection (different from magic protection)

[chilly ibex]

doesn't tell me what it does

[sonic wyvern]

It's probably protection against player spells, VS magic damage which is just a type of damage that used for a lot of enemies (evokers, etc)

...That's my guess anyways

[gentle shadow]

Need help with other ideas for these swords if possible. I got

Cleaver:
Blade blaze netherite
Head, osgloglas
Handle ???
Handle ?????

Normal sword.

Blade blaze netherite.
Handle osgloglas
Handle??????

Is this good?

[chilly ibex]

try blizz enderium in a handle..that's really low damage for a cleaver made with osgloglas'

[gentle shadow]

No clue why its so low

[kindred mountain]

Blizz Enderium giving a -10% on damage doesn't help, IMO

Did TC change material stats in its latest update?

[fickle barn]

Should go up once you get metamorph to 25% and add fiery for frost plating

[gentle shadow]

Metamorph?

[kindred mountain]

Its a trait from Blizz Enderium. Every time the equipment gets damaged, its Metamorphium trait goes up, which increases how much damage it does or how much armor it gives. The bonus it gives goes up to 25%.

So for example, that Blaze Netherite-Osgloglas Cleaver that has a Blizz Endrium Tough Handle, could get its Metamorphium up to 25% and wind up with a damage rating of 27~

[rose scarab]

are dual daggers viable or its just better to get a better weapon?

[fickle barn]

They are a fun weapon, but the very fast attack speed makes them unusable against some bosses.

[sonic wyvern]

Fellas, am I reading "Terra" correctly? Is that basically a free 7 damage per swing? I assume it burns mana to do it, but that's kinda cracked

I know it says full charge, but like. The combat mod FORCES you to be at full charge anyways, so it'll happen most times.

That's why my tier 1 early game broadaxe is so busted heh

[fickle barn]

Think it adds the mana beam from botan terra blade

[sonic wyvern]

Oooo

[fickle barn]

er...

lmao it killed tyros in 4 hits

[kindred mountain]

My server is still on previous MCE2. I want that glaive.

[rose scarab]

damn

which one handed weapon type has the best damage per hit?

[rose scarab]

nevermind, i think its the big axe

so, how do you guys get a more powerful power source than blazing blood?

trying to make osgloglas

[timid ginkgo]

how do I build that?

[brisk kayak]

need to make a higher source. the next one needs cinderslime, lava and blazing blood that can make osgloglas

[civic parcel]

What’s the best weapon and armor I can make in expert mode? I just got access to blaze netherite and manyullym

[fickle barn]

Pyrotheum is very easy 1501-3000 heat if you find some pneumaticcraft crude oil

[fickle barn]

Blaze netherite plating with blizz enderium, basaltz signalum and blitz lumium maille, any utility maille of your choosing for the fourth.

If you have done pneumaticcraft, pneumatic steel is an upgrade over blaze netherite, the 3 mails are the same but for the fourth youd use blaze netherite.

Both blaze netherite and pneumatic steel are also very good for tools and weapons. blizz enderium is VERY strong for weapons as a tool handle

You want to use either blaze powder or fire dragon blood for 1 upgrade slot to get the frost plating (from blizz enderium) provided double damage on burning enemies

[civic parcel]

ok ty

[rose scarab]

whats wrong here? cant make overheated lava

using blazing blood as a fuel

[orchid nimbus]

Dunno, I’ve always made it in the separate alloying thing

[rose scarab]

i tried that too

they dont mix

[orchid nimbus]

I forget the recipe off hand, gimmie a sec to open the pack

[rose scarab]

ok

it says here: lava, blazing blood and cinderslime. but for some reason it doesnt mix

i dont know why

[orchid nimbus]

One sec, don’t have any lava on hand

And you’re 100% positive you have at minimum 3 ingots of cinderslime, 500 mb of blazing blood, and a bucket of lava?

[rose scarab]

20 blocks of cinderslime 13 bucket of blazing blood and 8 buckets of lava

in the smeltery

not the foundry

[orchid nimbus]

I literally just made 5 buckets of overheated lava, idk

I assume you’re on the latest version?

[rose scarab]

yes

we just updated the server

[orchid nimbus]

Maybe try removing everything, then just add the stuff for overheated lava? Idk why it would make a difference but it might

[rose scarab]

going to try make pyritheum instead

[vague berry]

Whats the mending upgrade for tinkers tools?

[pulsar lodge]

Overmending

[vague berry]

Does that require the overslime stuff? I’m not too familiar with all the slime things

[pulsar lodge]

it generates overslime, so yes, it interacts with all of that

[chilly ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/a-little-bit-of-overkill-overdose-excess-overmuch-austin-evans-gif-13031940

[sonic wyvern]

[kindred mountain]

Is there a way to get fortune on tinker's tools apart from disintegrate crystals and protocite? Trying to determine if I should do two pieces of Protocite or Protocite and Disintegrate Crystal

[pulsar lodge]

Luck modifier

[kindred mountain]

Does that stack with Fortune on the weapon?

[pulsar lodge]

it should

[kindred mountain]

Hm. Then I guess Disintegrate Tough Collar it is, and then stacking Lucky.

[civic parcel]

what is best cleaver i can make with osgloglas in expert mode. I have access to blaze netherite and blizz enderium also

[rose scarab]

pyrotheum worked normally

[radiant solar]

Hi someone have a good normal katana combo pls

[vague berry]

Is there a better way to repair blaze netherite tools or is it prohibitively expensive?

I know you can stand in fire but like that isn’t really fast enough unless you’re afking

[sonic wyvern]

oh right, i keep forgetting to share my early game abuse broadaxe

it effectively deals 30 damage on a strike, as long as its a full charge... but the game usually forces a full charge anyways, so if you learn the attack timing of "just holding left mouse down" then its cracked busted

it ALSO can have Looting 4, which was the big kicker hehe