Tinkers Post - Please put your favorite combos here

[blissful fog]

i found out ab the jeweled apple but my fuel source isn’t enough it seems

is there an alternate in #normal mode ? or would i have to wait til nether

[wraith pebble]

you can make a blaze using a fel pumpkin, use that with a soul vial to make a powered spawner, place the spawning blazed in a smeltery and they make blazing blood as they take damage

[hasty valve]

Wait what, Is normal lava not hot enough to melt diamonds?

[wraith pebble]

no, there are tiers like blaze blood, heated lava, and more

[keen umbra]

So wouldn't you want dragonsteel plate, chromatic steel maille?

[small orchid]

what is this picture on the left? ive seen it before for calculating gregtech recipes

[river crown]

Emi's crafting tree, it's not part of mce2 but I added it without issue

Its a I don't know how I played without it tier qol for me

[chilly ibex]

dragonsteel is great for overall protection, but double chromatic is also pretty good imo

[serene moth]

is there a "generally good" recommendation in terms of upgrades for full ACS plate armor (beside chest maille, thats protocite)?

[small orchid]

what woould you guys use in place of osglo and blaze netherite? im having trouble finding netherite and cant get osglo yet

i wanna make armor and a cleaver

[hasty valve]

Is protocite preferable over acs maille?

[serene moth]

at least for the chest maille since it gives debuff immunity, haste, jump boost and speed.

[river crown]

To be clear it would still give the debuff immunity if it was on a different piece but the buffs are chest only so you might as well put it there since afaik there isn't another maille material that cares about what slot it's in

[blissful fog]

hello any community recs for #expert mode armor n weapon?

currently have full steel + blade of b- smth

[onyx rune]

What’s the best combo to use with fire Dragonsteel in tinkers or just use dragonsteel armor w/ enchants? (Expert mode)

[chilly ibex]

blizz enderium

don't use non-tinker's armor....it's so bad rn

[onyx rune]

Gotcha so enchant just beats em

[chilly ibex]

???

[hasty valve]

Is the katana build in the community recommendations section of the spreadsheet the best dps in master mode? Or should I make a cleaver
(No antimatter access)

[onyx rune]

Like enchanting normal dragon steel is better option than tinkers dragonstell

[chilly ibex]

no

that's not what i said

i said to not use armor that's not tinker's...meaning, use tinker's armor........

[onyx rune]

Sorry misunderstood

[onyx rune]

So blizz enderium is pre-end? Use for mail or the actual plating?

[hasty valve]

Maille

[river crown]

Yeah pre end it's crafted from thermal's enderium not majruz (sp?) progression enderium

When you're post end best maille and plating is activated chromatic steel for the most part, if you don't mind or have already done a lot of mek progression (enough to have a fission reactor) protocite maille in the chest piece gives debuff immunity, haste, jump boost and speed. (In other pieces it would still give debuff immunity)

[onyx rune]

sounds good, ill get working on thermal expansion, since i need a hotter liquid to melt that blizz enderium

[subtle pawn]

Why is acs best for all slots?, doesn't it cap damage you can take in empowered mode at 5 pieces of it (20% x 5)

[river crown]

I think some of the other traits stack higher, though not sure

Though if you're right I'd recommend all ACS plating, 1 ACS maille, protocite maille in chest slot and 2 other maille of choice idk which

[hasty valve]

I guess Blizz enderium would also be nice for maille if you don't have access to protocite due to metamorphism

[river crown]

Oh ACS has that too

It has all the traits from the thermal alloys used alongside iridium to make it

But yeah blizz enderium is a good pre end maille

[hasty valve]

I don't think it does, I don't have it on mine. Is it a hidden trait?

I for sure know that it has the freezing effect trait whatever it's called but unsure about metamorphism

[river crown]

Not sure

[chilly ibex]

no it doesn't iirc

ACS with metamorphium would be better than protocite :/

[wraith pebble]

where is that located?

[hasty valve]

Pinned message here

[mellow mason]

You don’t become immune to damage at 5 pieces, it stacks multiplicatively (either .6^4 or .8^8, don’t know which but likely the latter)

[wind flower]

protocite is nice for the buffs tbh. though not necessary. pneumatic steel is okay if you have psi generation its basically budget acs

[granite otter]

how do i make a gem? im following jei but its just not working

[hasty valve]

You trynna make a gem cast?

[granite otter]

im trying to make a gem, so far i only got cobblestone to work and it wont let me make a cast :(

wait do i just cast the material onto like a stone gem?

this is what jei says for the diamond one i was trying to make

[hasty valve]

I'm not sure how the jewellery addon works but is it not letting you choose a diamond gem when you place a diamond in place of the seared block?

[granite otter]

correct

i did mess up the seared stone, you have to cast clay over a stone gem, not sure what i have to do for diamond

[hasty valve]

Hmm try making it out of a cheap material and pour molten gold on it to see if it lets you make a gem cast

Then you can pour diamond in it

[granite otter]

i had and that didnt work

[hasty valve]

Damn someone else might be able to help then

[granite otter]

its all g, i just wanted a bit more armor without actually making armor

how does overslime work aswell? how do i like feed it slime

sorry for the basic questions, i havent messed with tinkers since 1.12

[wind flower]

diamond is disabled iirc

[wind flower]

overslime is basically second durability. you can apply slime in a tinkers table (maxes out 50 by default and removes some stats while its active) or you have the materials which can make is slowly automatically. or burns lava etc

[granite otter]

sweet thank you!

[wind flower]

overslime with the trait overslime wont remove stats (just a fyi)

basically if you look up slime in jei you will see the 5-6 slime orientated materials

also over mending (turns xp into overslime slowly)

[manic turtle]

question? why isnt activated chromatic steel mixing when i have everything for it and the fuel is hot enough?

[hasty valve]

Ensure you have blitz lumium and not just lumium

[manic turtle]

omg

im crying your right

[hasty valve]

Happened with me a few days back, shit doesn't make much sense

[manic turtle]

yeah im melting this but it only giveing me lumium?

[hasty valve]

You need the other thing that's made with scorched bricks

Smeltery/ Foundry whatever it's called

[manic turtle]

yeah i have both

need to be done in the foundry

there we go

[wraith pebble]

so I know there is a master mode katana build, are there builds for normal and expert mode?

[blissful fog]

for post nether, the suggest weapon build is osglosis cleaver w blizz enderium everything else, right ?

what additional modifiers is suggested

[chilly ibex]

trying to make a ring? my advice is DON'T

[chilly ibex]

don't use blizz on more than one part, it doesn't work well

[blissful fog]

oooh would u suggest osglo for everything then blizz for like the plate?

[chilly ibex]

i'd recommend finding different parts

[blissful fog]

i’m really new to tinkerer so i’m not sure what’s good or not 🙁

[chilly ibex]

look in pinned messages, there's a spreadsheet with damn near every material

[blissful fog]

o yea i been looking at that but how do u find the right combo lol

[chilly ibex]

if you go into your tinker's anvil, there's a blueprint button above the output slot

it's a tool planner

[hexed hazel]

Why exactly? The rings saved me

[hexed hazel]

I poured gold over an amethyst crystal

[hollow wadi]

can anyone enlighten me on how to get revitalizing 3 for my steel armor?

[hasty valve]

Add Jeweled apples to your armor

They can be crafted by pouring molten diamond onto apples

[hollow wadi]

oh ty

[hollow wadi]

any recommendations for normal mode hammer (or should I go for vein hammer?) All basalz signalum?

[granite otter]

whats the best way for repairing tinkers tools? i made a rose gold hammer and repairing it is expensive af

[chilly ibex]

first mistake was using rose gold

much less rose gold for the entire tool i'm assuming.....

but rose gold isn't that hard to make

[granite otter]

im using diamonds and emeralds to give it more durability i just wanted something for tunneling

takes 4 rose gold blocks to repair it fully lol

[chilly ibex]

rose gold already has really shit durability though

[pulsar lodge]

that sounds like you probably want to use a different material to repair it

since repair amount is based on the material's base durability

for broad tools, you can usually use the material of large plates or some other parts to repair the tool, though it does have reduced effectiveness, usually about 50%

[chilly ibex]

But if the entire tool is made of one single material, you kinda screwed yourself..but the repair material iirc is based on the head

[leaden barn]

if you havent used all the modifiers from rose gold, you might be able to replace one of the large plates or even the head with something easier to repair

[chilly ibex]

you can also just..remove the upgrades you've added

[leaden barn]

true, forgot that was an option ngl

[hollow blaze]

May I ask how you got so many modifiers on it?
I'm farely new to Tinkers and don't really get that system yet :)

[hexed hazel]

There are many ways, you can check jei

[hexed hazel]

I used stone for the head for easy repairing xD

[subtle pawn]

how much mana regen does terrestrial add to tinkers armor?

[wraith pebble]

making my first tuning sword, what Flux core do yall reccomend?

[elfin cipher]

any idea how to get melted diamond pre nether?

without crazy other stuff like occultism

[river crown]

What temp do they melt at? If regular lava isn't hot enough maybe pyrotheum from thermal? Don't remember what it needs.

[wraith pebble]

yes, make a fel pumpkin from botania and you can make a blaze, using a soul jar you can place them inside the smeltery to get blaze blood, or even make a powered spawner to place them automatically

[elfin cipher]

i figured it out ye, i just got a lot of fell pumkins and tbh 5 blazes were more than enough for all the jewled apples

just made them and pushed them in haha, am in nether now so should be all good to go. Just needa find whats next for expert lvl best weapon/armour (i like katanas)

[wraith pebble]

another fun thing is you can get cobalt pre nether using the tinkers tools you can fish and taking them apart

[elfin cipher]

oh ye i found a manyullun war pickaxe but idk how to take them apart

[wraith pebble]

parts maker, place it in, but be aware that you will lose the parts you don't pick to take asside from a random one

[river crown]

You don't always get random one it's a chance based off of durability

[elfin cipher]

any advice for this btw? like what gear (armour katana parts & maybe a ranged weapon?) is best b4 end dimension?

[chilly ibex]

thought you couldn't take those tools apart?

[wraith pebble]

I know lava can be used in an Ion cannon, is there any other liquids that are better?

[river crown]

Not sure, I'd try one of the hotter smeltery/foundry fuels like blazing blood and see if that works and does more damage

[celest cradle]

You just need to have a parts pattern in the parts maker and you can pull out one chosen and one random part

[wraith pebble]

it does more damage, now to get a bunch of molten antimatter and see if its better

[granite otter]

whats some good parts for a pre-nether ion cannon? right now im running electrum and nahuti but im sure theres better

[chilly ibex]

use the planner button in the tinker's anvil to test things

[languid dock]

How do you increase the fire-rate of ion cannon

[wind forge]

Any advice for early expert mode katana? - Main goal is the Gaia fight

[hasty valve]

I believe there's a modifier called Swiftstrike EX you can add to it

[granite otter]

can i change out the metal/leather on travellers gear? if so how and if not should i just use plate instead?

[hasty valve]

Does travellers gear have any benefits over plate armor? You might be better off making a plate armor using a plate+maille

[granite otter]

doesnt it say travellers has more ability slots?

[elfin cipher]

what wouyld yall say is good expert teir armour (and maybe weapons) for expert mode for fighting dragons? I currently have steel everything armour w/ an ok katana and a power 4 normal bow

[hasty valve]

The general consensus is Blaze Netherite plate + Blizz Enderium maille is one of if not the best expert mode Thinkers armor.

For weapons, Osgloglas is a very solid choice as the primary material

[elfin cipher]

Ye i thought so for the plate, why is blizz enderium good?

[river crown]

forgot what it's called but it's got a trait that means the armor gets stronger the more damage you've taken

metamorphium?

checked the table and yeah it's
Metamorphium, though it's based on durability damage the tool/armor has taken rather than damage to you

[chilly ibex]

the more durability it's lost

[languid dock]

Does it reset if you repair the tool

[chilly ibex]

no

i'd say it's the earliest S tier material you can get

[languid dock]

what's the cap

[chilly ibex]

25% increased overall base stats

[shy fjord]

So just got the ability to make osgoglass. Whats the best things to put on with it on a katana? Cause I know of a few things I would like. But I dont know if its worthwhile. Like Insatiable from manyullyn, The blizz enderium trait. I know ogoglass has the high damage.

[hasty valve]

I like the Osglo Blade plus Blizz enderium handles and a way to set enemies on fire to make use of the Blizz enderium effect

[shy fjord]

Do you need fire for the blizz enderium trait? Or does it just make it better

[hasty valve]

It does double damage to burning enemies

[elfin cipher]

where do u find blizz

been looking

[hollow wadi]

From the Blizz Mob

probably need looting for that

[hollow wadi]

what upgrades modifier should I put on my osgloglas/blizz enderium/manyulyn katana?

[chilly ibex]

sharp and swift strike

[hollow wadi]

i dont quite get what the ability slots are for? I added upgrade slots with a music disc and an end crystal, added pierce 1 to it and thought about adding fiery to get the bonus dmg from the blizz enderium

that would leave me with 2 upgrade slots and 1 ability slot

[chilly ibex]

pierce isn't great for weapons

[hollow wadi]

why not?

[chilly ibex]

iirc pierce is armor pierce?

[hollow wadi]

yeh...do bosses and mobs not have armor?

also is lvl 1 enough for swiftstrike? Or is there a way to get more upgrade slots that I am missing? Do I get more with weapon level ups?

[chilly ibex]

can't level weapons up

not in MCE2 at least

[hollow wadi]

hmm...sad, so there arent many upgrade slots at all...well. What is the item called again to remove modifiers?

[pulsar lodge]

there's particular slotless modifiers you gain access to as you progress, by gathering more rare items

[hollow wadi]

do I even need the ability slot or can I just convert the one with a golden apple to 2 more upgrade slots...still dont understand what they are for

[pulsar lodge]

there's a Slotless section in the tinkers' books that should include all of these modifiers

you can get quite a few more than you might think, especially with the additional ones from addons in the pack

[hollow wadi]

hmm...new Tinkers too complicated for my smol brain

do some of these slotless modifiers take up the ability slot?

[pulsar lodge]

no, slotless means slotless

[hollow wadi]

ah oke

[pulsar lodge]

as in it doesn't require any modifier slots

[hollow wadi]

understood

[pulsar lodge]

but most of them usually have limited practical effect, or can only be applied once per tool

the latter being the case for bonus slot modifiers

[hollow wadi]

do you have an example for me regarding the ability slot?

[pulsar lodge]

wdym

[hollow wadi]

Upgrades Slots available 3, Abilities 1

[pulsar lodge]

it's basically just like a modifier category system

there's three types of slots in the base mod, Upgrades, Abilities, and Defense

Upgrades are like the old modifier slots, a lot of them will boost the item's stats or performance in some way, with a handful being conditional boosts.
Abilities are usually things that modify how the tool should be used in some way, like Melting for example, which allows the tool to melt down enemies or blocks it's used on.
Defense is for protection-like effects, anything that's defensive basically, and it's only on Armor and Shields for the most part. it's basically way to separate defensive power from upgrades for both balance and flexibility.

[hollow wadi]

Thanks a lot...don't know what I'd do without you

[rocky stump]

Netherite was not mentioned, but it's by far the most important modifier to have

Netherite -> Sharpestest first

Fiery doubles your damage against enemies that are susceptible to burn, but usually, enemies that can burn instantly die regardless, and enemies where dps matters usually can't burn, still, nice to have

[chilly ibex]

it's a weird spot because anything that isn't a boss is usually 1-2 shot no matter what

[rocky stump]

It's an ego booster upgrade for target dummy DPS I guess, which is probably worth more than a small atk/aspd boost from another level of pierce/swiftstrike

Kills dragons even faster I suppose

[hollow wadi]

is there a way to remove mmodifiers I added?

[river crown]

Yes put armor/tool/weapon in modifier table with wet sponge

[hollow wadi]

hmm I thought Metamorphium capped at flat 25...I got 25,2

Any ways I can further improve my katana?

[chilly ibex]

you can by hitting F3 + H to turn off advanced tooltips

trying to get more swift strike wouldn't be a bad idea

[hollow wadi]

would need even more upgrade slots for that

[hollow wadi]

I don't get how you have so many upgrade slots to get fiery, pierce 3, max sharpness, etc....

[hollow wadi]

oh nice, new weapon, now up to 25,3%

[chilly ibex]

Afaik it's capped at 25%

[pulsar lodge]

https://github.com/EtSH-C2H6S/TinkersAdvanced/blob/5e3bf07adf2496eb76f8059ad6a880bae1975b72/src/main/java/com/c2h6s/tinkers_advanced/content/modifier/common/Metamorphium.java#L55

all it looks for is if the percent is under 0.25f (25%)

it does not appear to clamp it to that value :|

so basically the last bump can go from like 24.9% to more than 25%

[hollow wadi]

dope...wonder how high one can get it it

[elfin cipher]

i havent been to the beneath yet so whats thebest katana i can make? i really enjoy its hit pattern

also i am nearly done blazing netherite blizz endrium but can i just replace the steel armour parts with those parts? does it make sense to make new ones because i alrdy got revitalized 3 diamond emerald on the steel ones

or are those not good upgrades for the blazing netherite blizz endurium

[elfin cipher]

what modifiers should I add?

[elfin cipher]

also still wondering abt this, saw some1 say smthng abt blizz handle but he had osglosos

[hollow wadi]

My current Katana...what can I improve and any slotless upgrades I am missing?

roughly 190-200 DPS after a few secs

[rocky stump]

It's pretty close to optimal already

[hollow wadi]

with the abyssal predator spell I can get to roughly 390 DPS

480 DPS with Abyssal Predator and Hardware Update at the same time

[rocky stump]

Hardware update is meh, consider using charge instead

Charge + Abyssal is bread and butter, but to be honest, doesn't really matter since all it does in MCE2 is make target dummy number bigger

The ceiling for optimal damage on the bosses that matter is pretty low

cough cataclysm

[fickle barn]

Echoing strikes 4 spell bound to it ig

Have u used the amber slotless upgrade? Its relatively easy to get

[elfin cipher]

for ex. is melee prot better than the combined prot? also should i have diamond upgrade + revitalize? Also are ability slots for smthng else?

[hollow wadi]

oh not yet, thanks

[valid lodge]

working on post-nether gear, i got one of every thermal blaze in my drygmy farm so i can get each of those ingots, is there any maille material other than protocite i should go for?

im aiming for blaze netherite plates + the other two materials for maille.

[lyric flame]

are the katana buffs out rn?

[chilly ibex]

the pack hasn't even been updated yet

don't even ask WHEN because only adam and emper know

[hollow wadi]

at what precise temporal juncture?

[chilly ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[quartz fossil]

Whats a decent build for an Expert Hammer? Sorry if ones been posted was looking around and couldn't find much info

[livid onyx]

Can someone help me with a good material list and traits for a katana? I have not reached the End dim yet

[livid onyx]

what materials are you using on that Katana?

[hollow wadi]

Osgloglas blades, Blizz Enderium and Manyullyn for the other two things

[narrow gull]

what did you apply and what was your order?

[hollow wadi]

The screenshot shows what I applied...the only thing I added was the amber slotless upgrade and another level of swiftstrike

[narrow gull]

how did you get the many upgrade slots

[hollow wadi]

Slotless upgrades like amber, music disc, etc

[narrow gull]

thanks ill have a look

[chilly ibex]

i'd probably look for something other than manyullyn

[fickle barn]

Double osglo/netherite probs an angle

Bismuth has meme potential as a 2ndary

[chilly ibex]

bismuthinite though

[main flint]

How y’all puting so much stuff on em

[chilly ibex]

half of those are from the weapon materials themselves, other half are from manually adding by increasing the amount of modifier slotsslots

[main flint]

I asume that’s very late game being able to add slots then?

[chilly ibex]

majority of weapon abilities aren't even CLOSE to good imo so i personally just trade the ability slots out with gold apples

[chilly ibex]

you can start adding slots as soon as you actually start tinker's

[river crown]

Some ways are but others are accessible earlier , especially ones that trade a type of slot for another like gilded which tray suggested.

[fickle barn]

Music disc is free, end crystal is pretty free (pyro towers and rogue dungeons have tears, fel pumpkin/centrifuge for blaze powder)

Amber is also giga free if u have located primordial caves

Normal gold apple also trades 1 ability slot for 2 upgrades

[fickle barn]

not too fancy (its just purely steel) but does still seem to do between 30 and 40 damag

guess i should start looking for ice blazes to make enderrium

[fallen flume]

Anyone got pre expert bow builds

[fickle barn]

id probs just run a harm spell or enchanters bow

[fallen flume]

I just wanted to mess with the tinkers bow, I've tried a few combos myself but cant seem to get the damage above like 6

[chilly ibex]

you need netherite to make an enchanter's tool

i think

[fickle barn]

could have had a recipe change ye, not sure

harm + 2x amplify is decent enough

[chilly ibex]

yea

[main flint]

Does swift stike make it charge faster?

[keen fjord]

Is this pre-expert? If so I know what im doing for the next 4 hours

[fickle barn]

Ye still in purely overworld

[fickle barn]

Yeah

[keen fjord]

Peak

[fickle barn]

Swift strike ex (exclusive to the ion/railgun) is something like +25% ea level

So muuuuch better than regular swift

[fallen flume]

Wana post a part break down lol

Ah wait, you said steel lol

[fickle barn]

Steel dual blades, steel rod, fluix crystal ion container

5x swift ex, tank auto-fire. Slapped a music disc and end crystal on it

Gonna try to get pyrotheum for enderium rod and replace one of the blades with signalum

Cos pretty the sundering effect is similar to tetanus

Where the target briefly takes increased damage

[languid dock]

you can put both on it

if you farm out enough upgrade modifiers

[elfin cipher]

is protection on tinkers worse than melee protection?

[elfin cipher]

how do you inscribe spell on it? ive not made/used ars bow b4

also do u need mana to shoot or no cause then its kinda meh no? esp if u r not spell focused

[chilly ibex]

Melee prot is all you need, and revitalized

[chilly ibex]

You put enchanter's tools on the ars scribe table and make a spell in your book, then shift right click the tool while it's on the table

Each one has a built in form glyph

[fickle barn]

I meant as a spell not even bound to anything. Should do like 12 damage a shot

[fallen flume]

How do you put revitalized on it, I tried and cannot find anything online explaining it. Is it the same an necro

[chilly ibex]

look in JEI..

[fallen flume]

Yeah, it asks for the black bones and sand. Doing exactly that with ability slots and upgrades slots it does nothing

[chilly ibex]

the revitalized modifer doesn't use either of those things?

what are you looking at..

[river crown]

Revitalized should be what ever the apple with molten diamond poured over it is called

[chilly ibex]

jeweled apple

[fallen flume]

Im so lost lol, help a mf out lol

[chilly ibex]

search JEI

it's literally your best friend in modded mc

[runic mauve]

hey folks, lets say that i have to salvage the fact my friends activated expert mode while i was asleep and they are being abolutly butchered when having to fight anythinig non vanilla, what armor can i make them post deep but pre end so they can survive more then 1 slap in the face

[fickle barn]

Netherite armor is pretty decent, with 1 signalum maille, 1 lumium maille, 1 enderium maille, and potentially some other utility for the 4th (maybe pneumatic steel? if u have set up PNC stuff)

Oak skin spell is a big one too

Wont get 1 hit by maledictus (3-4 hits from floored halberds with 3 rows of hp to prock a totem) but harbingers laser beam will still instantly activate a totem.

Have yet to find barako so idk how well it does against his sun beam

[runic mauve]

luckily for me i already murdered sunbird on my own

ive found this new version of tinkers(and honestly the books that come with it) kind of a mess compared to the tinkers of old to be perfectly honest

[chilly ibex]

how so

the books i can agree with

should've just had 2, 1 for smeltery and foundry, then another for materials and traits

[runic mauve]

its mostly the books

the pack adds SO SO SO SO SO much stuff

that just finding stuff is really hard

took me for god damn ever to find the recipe changes to adding modifiers

only found out a few days ago you can find modifiers in JEI(or whatever version we have nowdays)

[chilly ibex]

1.12 tinker's had a lot more :/

really should add that as a quest in the tinker quests....

[elfin cipher]

I miss the shuriken from tinkers, was so op/fun having an unbreakable one

[runic mauve]

yeah

[fickle barn]

Good thing we have temu FS XR-20

[woeful relic]

Is there a tinkers modifier for harvesting extra crops?

[pulsar lodge]

like bonus drops? no. no more than looting will work on some anyways. though i don't think it does on modern versions anyways.

[woeful relic]

Thank you!

[chilly ibex]

i don't think there's anything that harvests extra crops anyway

[waxen coral]

I wanted to do a katana with Osglass and maybe blizz enderium, any idea what i should add too ?

[runic mauve]

Manylum for the rest honestly

[fickle barn]

Voltaic handle, enderium handle, osloglass blade

[waxen coral]

I don't have access to the end yet so i cant make voltaic

[fickle barn]

U can find those end slime tree saplings in ow

[waxen coral]

How an where ?

[fickle barn]

I have found a decent amount in ancient cities, and 3 in a frozen prison

Adventure kit trinket helps as it increases loot amount

As long as u find 1 u r good to go. Can just slap it to a phyto

[waxen coral]

But Metamorphium still work even if the weapon is energy based ?

[fickle barn]

Can level it to 25% before charging

Doesnt take too long

Run a bit cheaper blade material at start

And switch to osglo once 25%

If u dont wanna "waste" any osg

[waxen coral]

If it's energy based it wont be wasted anyway so

[fickle barn]

I have accumulated ||cheesed|| enough iridium for 2 activated chrome plates, should I make an armor maille or something like a tool handle?

[chilly ibex]

Make something you can use immediately, not later

[fickle barn]

was thinking of either chrome maille to replace enderium on platelegs, or small tool handle to replace the bismuth handle on sword

[chilly ibex]

sword, definitely

bismuth is a more early-game material

[runic mauve]

when it comes to armor modifiers and just general shit to slap onto it, whats usually prefered? pre end wise

[river crown]

Melee protection, up to 10 levels total across your pieces, and as much revitalizing as you have room for after that and any utility stuff you want

By utility I mean stuff like water breathing on helmet or feather/ long fall on boots

[runic mauve]

dont really need the last things cuz of ars magic

[river crown]

Then put ones that boost ars mana instead

Or don't if you don't want

[runic mauve]

oh didnt know that was a thing

prob will

[river crown]

novice/mage/archmage are what the levels are called, there's also ones for Irons and botania if you use them

[chilly ibex]

Melee prot 8 is recommended, anything higher is just wasted slots that could be used for revitalized

[narrow gull]

Talking about melee prot 8 all combined you mean like melee prot 2 on every piece so it’s 8 in total?

[hasty valve]

As long as the total comes out to 8 levels, you can distribute the 8 levels any way among the pieces. 2 on every piece works

[narrow gull]

Alright thanks

[languid dock]

where can i find the stats for all the neutronite peices

since they dont show in jei or the book

[cobalt stag]

what're some good pre-nether tinkers tools?

currently I'm using this as my main weapon
and I'd love some type of pick/paxel

[fallen flume]

We gotta get some more stuff added to the community build part of the spreadsheet. Help us noobs out with tinkers.

[cobalt stag]

PLEASE more community recommendations for normal/expert modes

[chilly ibex]

if @hollow vine would want to get back into things, we can actually go to add the missing stuff, as well as offering basic recommendations

[hollow vine]

My name was spoken and I shall appear

I would say I would love to, alas college is kicking my ass

(Fuck unity)

[keen fjord]

Good thing would be to make the ionized cannon that MindGoblin recommends early-game, only issue is knowing how to raid ancient cities without killing wardens willy nilly

Think it was all steel, and a fluix ion chamber piece

Then make it full auto, speed upgrades to the max

If you need tips for Ancient City raiding early game ping me

[cobalt stag]

what're some good Expert mode tinkers items?

[chilly ibex]

early nether you want blaze netherite and blizz enderium, late nether you want to swap blaze netherite for osgloglas

[prime wigeon]

Hello, just wanting to get some feedback on my current cleaver blueprint in expert mode, wondering if this is the best option I have or if there is better materials I should use. I just feel as if it's pretty shit for being a cleaver when my sword is nearly as good.

[chilly ibex]

manyullyn is ok for weapons, cobalt is..fine

i probably would've had blizz enderium as the plate

the stats aren't great but the trait is what makes it really good, and the decrease in essential stats doesn't really help a lot

[snow ember]

Any good katana or cleaver suggestions for early game? Like pre / just entering nether?

[river crown]

Tbh at stage blade of blahaj might be better

[snow ember]

I had no clue that was a thing, Ill check it out lmao

[fickle barn]

Invar with emerald modifier, mana steel and steel are all pretty good materials

But tbh melee dps starts to only rly get good at nether and beyond

Unless you cheese your way to nether+ materials while still in OW

You can get a 3x steel-fluix ion gun in overworld only, and its gonna be miles greater dps than melee can be w/o cheesed/bug abuse

Enderium is also accessible if you wanna see a slight bit more effort

[slate igloo]

what method can you use to get enderium before going to the end?

[fickle barn]

TS enderium not the majruz one

U can summon fel pumpkin blazes for the blazing blood to melt it into tool parts

Does require wart (rogue dung bottom floor/botania) and nether mushroom (ars/rogue dung + create haunting)

Worth it tho if u find a blizz early and wanna meme a bit by staying normal mode

[cobalt stag]

people say that but how do you get the ion chamber? it requires osmium at that point pre-great below.

I'm now at that point to do it but like, how?

[fickle barn]

Ion chamber is echo gem + 12x any material

Fluix is a decent one since it will let you repair by placing into the ae2 charger

[cobalt stag]

it costs a resonance crystal no?

[fickle barn]

Reso is just echo + blue slime bars

But yea meant to say resonating gem not echo

[cobalt stag]

it costs osmium gems

[fickle barn]

Oh, the recipe has been changed?

[cobalt stag]

guess so, to nerf it

[fickle barn]

Did not even know there had been a new pack update

[cobalt stag]

requires Ostrum now, which is space travel

[fickle barn]

Makes sense to nerf it that way

More or less instantly accessible after nether

[cobalt stag]

now its a long n hard process to obtain

[fickle barn]

Was beyond overpowered to be able to just rush an ancient city wayfinder and pray u get 6 echo crystals

[chilly ibex]

made me think the update came out :/

[narrow gull]

What material should I combine with acs and which material should be which part

[river crown]

Personally I went with ACS plating for all 4 slots and protocite maille for chest slot, I also did ACS for the othe Maille slots but that might have been a mistake/overkill not sure

[chilly ibex]

dragonsteel is a good option for defense

pretty sure dragonsteel plating has more armor and toughness than ACS

[tough lava]

we use a datapack that backports some of the changes from MCE2 1.2, this recipe change is one of them

sorry for scaring you all into thinking the update came out

[chilly ibex]

why implement them early

[tough lava]

there's some features/fixes we wanted early, like the magic skill tree

since we plan to update during the playthrough if it comes out, it would be weird if ion cannons were easy to obtain before the update but hard to obtain after, so we added a lot of those balancing changes too

[chilly ibex]

how does the magic skill tree look

[tough lava]

#🎨mce2-dev-sneak-peek message

[chilly ibex]

figured there would've been changes

[tough lava]

not to the overall structure at least

[chilly ibex]

hm

[fallen flume]

Expert level tools for just clearing dirt / stone?

[chilly ibex]

An eff 4 diamond shovel is more than enough though

For dirt anyway

[fallen flume]

Yeah but have to repair with ex is a burden

[chilly ibex]

Not that hard

For stone, just make a hammer

[fallen flume]

What's your method of repairs axes / shovels with mending

[chilly ibex]

I just had a drygmy farm so constant XP was available but I never used mending honestly

[fallen flume]

Ah drymy is what im about to setup

[fallen flume]

Manyullyn good expert armor or stick with steel?

making melee proc plates for armor, just need a base.

nvm i found the search function

[chilly ibex]

manyullyn isn't great for armor but decent for weapons and tools

[fallen flume]

Ive been in here alot the last 2 days lol, currently running a slimesteel katana, whats a good expert version. I was looking at manyullyn with steel? But idk i use to be okay with tinkers now I have no idea

[proven hollow]

Uh, I got some antimatter swasher from fishing and broke it down to a repair kit, should I use it for plating or something else?

[wind flower]

you can turn it back into actual antimatter and use it for mekanism stuff

[neon igloo]

where can I find the best expert mode tinkers armor information in this server people seem to talk about it I couldnt find it

[cobalt stag]

some late expert mode armor and weaponry recommendations?

[snow ember]

Any decent post nether matter manipulator builds?

[cobalt stag]

what to fill an ionized cannon with?

[fickle barn]

U can make a matter manipulator out of hepatizon, its pretty good

[fickle barn]

Disintegrate collar is a must, filling rest of the parts with hepatizon isnt too bad, if u have found an enderslime sapling in dungeons, filling the other parts w voltaic crystal isnt too bad either

Voltaic particle container is decently pricy though

U do get a kinda funny mining speed w disintegrate full voltaic

Osgloglas pickaxe head i think had just slightly higher base mining speed than voltaic pickaxe head so if u have one of those, def use it instead

[snow ember]

And don't you fill these things with liquid? If so what should I fill it with, lava?

[fickle barn]

Lava works fine

[snow ember]

Damn its goated, thanks for the suggestion. What upgrades / abilities would ya put on it?

[fickle barn]

5x swift strike ex

I would also put 1 or 2 extra tank upgrades

Then regular swift strike

After that u can start adding damage modifiers

[proven hollow]

what maille material is best? Either for post nether or post end?

Does a blizz enderium maille + antimatter plating for boots sound good? I already have dragon scales for other parts and a dragonsteel helmet

[patent viper]

someone got a clue how to remove the global traveler link from the tools?

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel if you don't want to go for antimatter

think of chromatic as budget antimatter, it's SLIGHTLY worse overall which kinda makes it better in a way?

[devout slate]

i'm looking for a good ranged weapon early with tinker someone can help me?

[cobalt stag]

@chilly ibex you seem like someone to ask for help on what armor to wear for fighting things like maledictus and the harbinger

What would you recommend for post-nether, pre-end?

[proven hollow]

Aight thanks sir

Getting a lot of materials from rat fishing

[chilly ibex]

blaze netherite plating, blizz enderium maille

[snow ember]

For some reason its not letting me add swift strike or any upgrades?

[fickle barn]

Netherite plating, one piece with blitz lumium maille, one piece with basaltz signalum maille, one piece with blizz enderium maille, and ig lasr piece with maybe hepatizon maille?

Goety has a really easily obtainable body slot item (witch robe) which reduces received magic based damage by a rather significant amount.

Maledictus can be semi safespotted if your weapon can pierce very thin walls (pretty much ion gun or magic arrow spell)

Harbinger is just raw dpsing, only offing when hes about to do the big laser special (that apparentally crashes you to main menu if u properly die to it, trait shared with leviathans laser xdd)

As long as u can keep dodging his specials Maledictus isnt rly an awfully hard fight, just hits reeeeeeally hard if u get meleed or hit by a special.

IMO the phantom halberds are actually even more dangerous than the laser beams from from harb/levi

[keen fjord]

Adding on to Goblin’s suggestion, revitalize on all the pieces, probs protection obviously

[fallen flume]

What adds more defense slots? I read through the book, but nothing adds just raw defense slots unless im missing it.

[fickle barn]

telecore + 2 cubes of azure and scarlet neodymium, defence rebalance

thats your easy +2

[fallen flume]

And whats recommended, I have cobalt plates for melee proc +3 do I keep doing plates or maybe 2 levels of revitalizing.

[river crown]

melee proc maxs out at 10 levels total iirc so only do 2 or 3 per piece and the rest revitalizing

[fallen flume]

Good to know

[lapis thorn]

currently im wearing steel plate and rose gold maille armor and steel tools, im thinkng of turning my armor into cobalt maille and my tools into maybe manyullyn?

and idk what weapon to go for

[fallen flume]

Don't waste time on the cobalt armor, id do full steel till you get into blizz

[lapis thorn]

why blizz?

i mean at that point shouldnt i js go straight for activated chromium

[fallen flume]

blaze netherite plating, blizz enderium maille

And you could, im just saying cobalt is a downgrade. I had better luck with the steel till I got the set above

[lapis thorn]

so go for balze netherite then activated chromium?

and what for weapons or tools

im using a steel pick and mattock

pick has fortune

but im js dual weilding sharp 5 diamond sword rn

[fallen flume]

Um still trying to figure out weapons, I still use a slime steel katana and flux ion cannon

[lapis thorn]

do yk the dps on the katana?

[fallen flume]

Like 9 it's nothing crazy.

[lapis thorn]

oof yeah thats kinda bad

[fallen flume]

I was researching weapons materials just before I left for work

[lapis thorn]

my swords clear 30

[lapis thorn]

in my last world i had a cleaver

idr how good tho

lemme check

was reaching nearly 100 dps

but thats a lategame item

with all my buffs

like attac kspeed

i miss this armor 😔

[chilly ibex]

You need End access for chromatic steel

[lapis thorn]

u do??

[chilly ibex]

Iridium

[lapis thorn]

what do u need from the end??

oof

so what do i go for?

[chilly ibex]

You were given a recommendation on what to go for

I hope adam buffs other materials to where we aren't using the exact same armor sets every time

[keen umbra]

Same, my favorite things in other modpacks, mainly older tinkers ones, was finding all of the potential combinations, what different things you could do with them, part of why I hope we get buffs to the abilities cause right now you might as well just trade most of them for modifiers

[hot elm]

im open to suggestions on material changes

its a big undertaking so it would make the workload lighter if i had some idea of what people think could help with shaking up the meta or flattening the stark differences between materials

[cobalt stag]

the current build post-nether

[fallen flume]

I really dont understand how people get this many things on armor, i tried adding slots but I can only gain like 2 before im capped

[pulsar lodge]

are you adding the Slotless Bonus Slot modifiers?

[fallen flume]

Im going to say no

Like golden apple? Disc?

[pulsar lodge]

yes

check in the tinkers' encyclopedia, it lists all of them under the slotless section

do mind that some are changed in this pack because yes

otherwise they'd be a bit too easy to get

[fallen flume]

Ive read that book 10 times, im clueless

[snow ember]

Just unlocked The Great Below, whats the build on a Osgloglas katana or Cleaver?

[chilly ibex]

you can search in JEI, otherwise the tinker's spreadsheet is the best place for this pack

don't rely on the tinker's books...they're more or less useless here

[pulsar lodge]

what makes you say this

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas blade and blizz enderium plate/handle

because if you're mainly looking for modifiers and traits, JEI has most of them and so does our spreadsheet

[pulsar lodge]

the books also do

[chilly ibex]

tinker's planner is also a thing

[pulsar lodge]

and most with appropriate descriptions that explain their effects

i say most because the TAdv and TIT ones kind of, don't

but basemod and tantrum very much do

[chilly ibex]

spreadsheet does this as well

spreadsheet just basically has "copy pasted" descriptions

[snow ember]

ty o7

[snow ember]

Ay so where do you get Blizz Enderium?

[chilly ibex]

use JEI

[lapis thorn]

what tinkers hammer should i make to mine for netherite?

[fallen flume]

Honestly I use a stone hammer with rose gold parts max out Redstone. It eats everything and super cheap to repair

[lapis thorn]

wait ur so smart

[fallen flume]

Its not good for fortune but you can't fortune debris anyways

[lapis thorn]

stone hammer head, rose gold plates and handle?

[fallen flume]

Yup

Then just make a ton of cobblestone repair kits in table and get to digging

[lapis thorn]

only put redstone on it?

[fallen flume]

Diamons, emerald, redstone

Add a golden apple and music disc for more upgrade spots

[lapis thorn]

alr bet

[cobalt stag]

I recommend a very lucky rock as well.

[cobalt stag]

what type of ion cannons should be used post-nether and post-end?

[snow ember]

Anything better than a Osgloglas Katana & Blaze Netherite Armor post-end?

[chilly ibex]

chromatic steel is nice for durability and some attack but osgloglas is the best if you don't go out of your way for mekanism stuff like antimatter and protocite

[snow ember]

Gotcha, what Mailles would you put on em?

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas isn't good for armor, antimatter is technically the BEST but chromatic steel is slightly better

[thorny osprey]

what should i put on tinkers armor as far as abilities and whatnot goes

[thorny osprey]

followup, still havent decided but seeing as i'm the mage of the group i do have to put some stuff to make iron's better

[lapis thorn]

i have 1 upgrade slot on all my pieces

what should i add?

[scenic brook]

Are there any must-know posts? We've just got to the nether and we're looking for some big upgrades

[narrow gull]

Im looking for endgame armor recommendations
What are the options

[river crown]

ACS tinker's or mekasuit are 2 main options for mce2

[fickle barn]

Netherite plating, b.signalum, b.lumium and b.enderium mailles. For fourth idk, hepatiz maille?

U can also get access to osgloglas for weapons now

[scenic brook]

Over blaze netherite? Interesting, I'll look into it! Also, why osgloglas?

[fickle barn]

Osgloglas is uhhh the 5th? strongest metal for weapons

[scenic brook]

Not sure how I get osmium without going to the rgeat below, very neat though

[fickle barn]

Exactly this, nether lets u activate the wither heart to open the portal

[scenic brook]

ohhh. We just got into the nether, we'll have to work for a bit to get the wither, then go through the rest. TY though, I can definitely work from this

[fickle barn]

Bring a scrying tablets, manipulation essence and ritual brazier w u

So u can start to immediately scry for debris when u find one

[scenic brook]

ty ty

[narrow gull]

Which armor stat is more important toughness or armor
I am not quite sure how i should combine dragonsteel and acs or only acs

[scenic brook]

I see I see

once you get ACS, do you mix with weith another material for the maille or go all ACS?

(Also, is it better to run empowered, or activated?)

[river crown]

If you don't mind doing a lot of mekanism protocite is a great maille for chest slot

[narrow gull]

I haven't reached this point in mekanism
what can i use instead until then

[scenic brook]

I see, why the protocite?

[river crown]

complete debuff immunity and some extra buffs if it's in chest slot forgot what they were

[scenic brook]

ahhh

[chilly ibex]

netherite plating?

[vast plank]

is there any armor slighltly behind all the basalz stuff

seems like a bit of a grind to find all those mobs

[fickle barn]

Go to cold/dry biome during blood moon for a relatively easy blizz and blitz, basaltz is easiest in nether

[vast plank]

i went to a desert biome during a blood moon, but only found 2 blitz

[fickle barn]

I just had arcane cloth as maille until that for the extra magic damage

[scenic brook]

What's the effective diffeence between empowered and active with the ACS?

reading the book it seems to be: activated, 5% chance (per piece?) to nullify all damage for 20KFE.
Empowered, all attacks do 20% less damage, for 2KFE per hit. (Also stacks per piece?)

[chilly ibex]

hold shift over pieces with the trait and it'll tell you exactly what it does

[scenic brook]

yeah, this isn't quite the trait though, it's something in the book and I'm trying to determine if the effects stack or not. Still very interesting

[chilly ibex]

iirc, it does

i could be wrong though

[pulsar lodge]

https://github.com/EtSH-C2H6S/TinkersAdvanced/blob/0517ad7a43a025b583fd01088f5c9e29de4afaa7/src/main/java/com/c2h6s/tinkers_advanced/content/modifier/compat/thermal/FluxDefense.java#L74

getMode(tool)>=1

[nocturne arrow]

so how is everyone getting apples for the revitalizing

[chilly ibex]

use JEI, it'll tell you

[fickle barn]

theres a biome that spawns giant apple trees

they are also rly common in certain dungeons/structures loot pools

[nocturne arrow]

i fixed my apple problem now lol just gotta find the easiest way pre nether to melt the diamonds for the apples if i can

[fickle barn]

fel pumpkin above 2 iron bars

then just use ars projectile -> heal spell to repeatedly heal it to milk as much blazing blood as u can

its a bit janky

sometimes it doesnt spawn one at u lose the pumpkin

my guess is that theres some cooldown or something

[nocturne arrow]

thats valid tbh

[nocturne arrow]

they changed the recipe lmao you cant pre nether it

[fickle barn]

crimson shroom and nether wart?

[nocturne arrow]

yeah you cant get it pre nether can you>

?

[fickle barn]

nether wart blocks in rogue dungeons, or loot table in various places

crimson shroom is haunting red mushrooms (soul sand via conjuration essence/minecolon pirate boats/rogue dungeons)

[scenic brook]

So having hit expert mode and wanting to take our time before entering the end, here's what I'm looking at trying to get for me and a friend. This is pre great below too, since this is primarily about prepping up to clear nether bosses and get to the great below.

Armor:
Blaze netherite plating on everything, and the maille is 1 part blizz, 1 part basalz, one part blitz. Not sure what to do on the last piece of maille, could use some tips there.

Tools: Blaze netherite all the way for mining, probably a cleaver for damage. Honestly not sure what else to do here other than try to get number big

[scenic brook]

enchanter's shield is a way for items to repair themselves using ars mana, but it seems to only apply to a chestplate. However, while it doesn't say anything about repairing with mana, the novice upgrade will allow armor to regenerate the same way, and is much cheaper!

[upper snow]

Find a “Warlock” mob in the overworld and drygmy it

[cobalt stag]

how are people gettin like 200dps on their ion cannons?

[keen fjord]

Good materials for the pieces, upgrades are nice for upping it but by the looks of it, mostly the materials used to make the ion cannons

[fallen flume]

Need a later nether ION build

Currently using the flux one

Steel / flux

[cobalt stag]

what kind of materials would be best post nether and post end?
same for upgrades, unless the tinker doc has it inside the community recommendations

[keen fjord]

Dont know about "best" but the one i have is decent, 2 osogalsas blades, 1 fluix ion core, and a blizz enderium handle

[fallen flume]

What mods and whats your damage?

[fickle barn]

Keep fluix chamber, osglo blades, enderium handle

[fallen flume]

Modifiers? Keep same?

[rocky stump]

[keen fjord]

Do you know if that damage was achieved using the Terrible sword, if not i shutter to imagine the potential

[rocky stump]

I have no idea what the terrible sword is, so

[keen fjord]

Dear god

This could go crazy for a 1 shot monster

[rocky stump]

what does the sword do

[keen fjord]

So its unintended i believe but when you hold it in your main hand, the offhand gets the crit chance and bonus from the sword

[rocky stump]

also, doesn't matter in this pack, everything remotely hard has a damage cap

you can't offhand an ion cannon last I checked

[keen fjord]

This explains a lot

[rocky stump]

what's the crit chance and mod from the sword

[keen fjord]

Yes you can, i do it constantly

[keen fjord]

Forgot the exact amount, like 200ish or something crazy like that

Bumped my ion cannon from 298 ish per shot without buffs to 1800 ish

[rocky stump]

is this crit multiplicative over the generic 1.5 jump crit

[keen fjord]

No idea, i just know Terrible sword = funny Warframe level numbers

[rocky stump]

if so, we can probably breach the 5 digit damage count in this modpack with it

but regardless, doesn't really matter other than ego boosting, nothing in this modpack allows you to use it to its full potential

you'll still do 30 damage to maledictus regardless

[keen fjord]

Lowkey never even noticed the damage cap

Does explain a lot though

[rocky stump]

it's specifically on the cataclysm bosses

but also, cataclysm bosses are the only mobs where damage like this would come in handy

[keen fjord]

Makes sense

[rocky stump]

dragons insta die way earlier, and that's probably the beefiest non cata mob

or maybe the end obelisk or something

[keen fjord]

Zamn guess gotta troll my friends with the localized hydrogen bomb blaster

[rocky stump]

ion cannon already pierces armor I think I don't think anything in this modpack survives a generic ion cannon doing 3 digit damage

other than immortality cheese

[scenic brook]

I guess it's time to build a great below/late nether ion, gotta figure out the fluid too

[fickle barn]

Lava

[scenic brook]

oh good, I was afraid it was some exotic or multi step liquid people needed. Guess I'll get started making one. And looking for an alternative to the backpack tank- I saw something in JEI once but then managed to completely forget what it was called

[river crown]

I think it does do more damage if you use a hotter fluid so maybe blazing blood since that's fairly easy to automate. as for the backpack tank alternative, I think there was a thermal curio that acted like one, don't remember name

[scenic brook]

I'm a bad hoarder and tend to keep my backpack pretty full, so a tank alternative to that would be good so I'll check it out

RESERVOIR!

[manic mortar]

What's a good starting Armor for Nether? I have steel plate set and i got blasted by two Fire Zombies 😄

[cobalt stag]

My God
What's the build?

[languid dock]

endgame build be like

#🏮-mce-general message

[scenic brook]

the reservoir description in quests say it can be upgraded with augments, but I can't figure out how

[pulsar lodge]

tinkers' workbench from thermal, you can socket it in and then add augments to it

[scenic brook]

ohh, that's obvious now I think about it. Okay, thanks

[scenic brook]

For the end game mailles, protocite is good for the chestplate, but what about the rest? Densium? All ACS?

[buoyant raptor]

New to tinkers, what materials did you use to make this? I know rose gold but howd u get it to say rock too?

[pulsar lodge]

Rock is just Stone

[buoyant raptor]

ah so one head is rosegold one head is stone?

[pulsar lodge]

yeah

[buoyant raptor]

Ty, never used tinkers before so this has been kinda mind blowing to me

[pulsar lodge]

the hammer head is stone here, and the rest is built of rose gold

[fickle barn]

Steel is probs a good one, then just try to get 19 bars of netherite as quickly as possible to upgrade to netherite plating for a significant defence improvement (this is possible even in normal mode with the eye of mech and fel pumpkins)

[manic mortar]

You mean putting a Netherite Maille on the Steel armor, instead of a steel maille? Sorry for the noob questions, i'm pretty new to tinkers

Ok i imagine Molten Blaze Netherite is a choice too, i don't know if you meant that

[fickle barn]

Plating not maille

For maille u want one as b.signalum, one as b.lumium and one as b.enderium

For the fourth its rly down to whichever utility u want

Fluix is probs not a terrible one for the free wither&poison immunitu

Hepatizon had some defence invreasing mechanic iirc

[buoyant raptor]

how do I make a stone head? it wont smelt in the tinkers thing ive got

[river crown]

should be able to do it in part builder

[buoyant raptor]

oh lmao whoops myb, ty

[pulsar lodge]

general rule: if it can't be cast, it's a part builder material

[buoyant raptor]

one last question. His says Rock-rose gold. Mine says stone-rose gold. Is it the same?

[pulsar lodge]

as long as the stats look right

[buoyant raptor]

bet

[pulsar lodge]

the name of the material could've changed between now and then, tinkers' had a couple notable updates since

that or it's just a variant because of what items you used to make it

but more likely the former, i think

[chilly ibex]

rock...and stone?

[buoyant raptor]

what did you put on this to get so much dmg? I made one, put a diamond on it, and am still 7 hearts lower dmg than this screenshot

[chilly ibex]

load it with quartz for damage

[buoyant raptor]

Ah haven't unlocked the nether yet. Rip

[chilly ibex]

you should be able to get quartz from roguelike dungeons

[fickle barn]

Also sky villages have 3 kilotons of quartz blocks

[buoyant raptor]

Haven't found either of those but ill go exploring. Ty yall

[wary gazelle]

hi guys im now in expert mode what the best armor and toolds?

[scenic brook]

Pre-great below or after you get access to mekanism ores?

[wary gazelle]

i can now go for mekanism ores

[scenic brook]

I've been told that blaze netherite is an incredible base material and plating, and that things like blizz enderium makes for a great maille and handle material, (as well as blitz/basalz mats for the other mats)

Once you get access to the great below (Like you just replied,) I'm less certain. I believe that osgoglass is allegedly a great weapon material, but I'm still trying to figure out this stage myself

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas is pretty much only used for weapons and mining tools

it's the BEST material for weapons and tools if you use it as the head (outside of endgame mekanism)

[scenic brook]

I see I see. Endgame melanism being the mining laser type thing?

[chilly ibex]

mining laser type thing?

[scenic brook]

I was just assuming there was some kind of super-miner in mekanism for endgame, I've never really done anything further than basic machines in other modpacks with it

[river crown]

digital miner

[chilly ibex]

oh you're talking meka tool.... yea that thing sucks even compared to the atomic deconstructer

or that, which also kinda sucks in MCE2

mining manually nets you at least 8x more with the right setup

[scenic brook]

I'm not familiar with what end game mekanism ores are if not osgloglass which seems to have all the mekanism ores in it already

[chilly ibex]

osgloglas isn't mekanism

it's tinker's

[scenic brook]

Mekanism has osmium, refined glowstone, and refined obsidian. I guess technically it has a steel too- what material is endgame mekanism then?

[river crown]

antimatter

[scenic brook]

oh, the nuclear stuff. Gross. I might have to try it out though

[chilly ibex]

antimatter and protocite

[scenic brook]

for the weapons?

[scenic brook]

antimatter apparently has an explosive effect, not wanting that so I'll look at what protocite can do

[chilly ibex]

protocite is more for tools because it gives more looting/fortune the more you're attacking/mining

a lot of the higher end materials are better for tools..i'd call antimatter and protocite the outlier materials for tinker's and really the highest you'd realistically want is osgloglas and chromatic steel

[scenic brook]

I see

[chilly ibex]

like if you want to go out of your way for antimatter and protocite, feel free

[scenic brook]

no, that's fine and all, I'm just trying to understand more of what I should be doing with tinkers stuff. I haven't messed with it since 1.12, maybe a little in 1.16

[chilly ibex]

there's not a lot of good materials in tinker's for MCE2....there's like 6 or 7 at MOST when there's more than 5 times that total

[scenic brook]

I see!

[chilly ibex]

#BuffTinker's

but really... those materials are:
steel for pre-nether
blaze netherite and blizz enderium for early nether
osgloglas for late nether/pre-end
chromatic steel and voltaic crystal for post-end

[scenic brook]

I appreciate it. Then again, I dunno if there's much besides the meksuit that competes with late tinkers armor wise. Plus they seem to make absolutely incredible weapons... but I'm still pretty ignorant of how far things can go. I'm suffering in liking Goety. (And ars spells, but I'm also terrible at those.)

[chilly ibex]

i can help with ars

and honestly, tinker's armor outperforms mekasuit and it's not even close

[keen umbra]

I should consider spend a stupid amount of time drafting up a material stats changes sheet for tinkers to suggest, cause I hate how samey tinkers feels in this, and I get that it's not high on the priority list to change that.

Do you think the thermal foundation materials should be nerfed at all? Or other stuff just buffed.

[hot elm]

I'm entirely up to taking suggestions for tc buffs and nerfs

[chilly ibex]

i'm not suggesting anything be nerfed (maybe blizz enderium solely because of its trait.....but buff its base stats in exchange) but if you compare any material with the few that i gave above, almost no others are debatably as good

i didn't list dragonsteel because its an armor specific material right now of course (and is mostly fine for the amount of time you put in to make the plating compared to the result you get out of it)

osgloglas may deserve a slight nerf because outside of antimatter and protocite, it's the highest base damage and highest mining speed material currently iirc? i'll edit this if i'm wrong.......

ok so i'm not wrong in saying osgloglas is the best material outside of antimatter and protocite (osgloglas has 45% mining speed while antimatter and protocite have 75% and 80% respectively, although the attack damage is pretty balanced at 4th highest for melee damage at 25% behind iridium which has 40%, antimatter at 75%, and first is densium at...80% for some reason?)

although to keep from having to post multiple messages, if anyone sees this and would like to have a hand in balancing tinker's so that more materials have higher usage, let me know and we can figure something out 🙂

[chilly ibex]

i just read this message fully and i'd be down to partnering for this..i'm pretty familiar with tinker's in MCE2 since i helped quite a bit with the spreadsheet that's in the pinned messages

[river crown]

It's also good for armor well at least it's good for maille (complete debuff immunity in any slot and some stat buffs as well if it's in chest slot) IDK how it performs as plating

[chilly ibex]

so as i'm looking over everything in the spreadsheet.....HOW was this missed by literally anyone who looked at it 😭

[scenic brook]

I also think that it shouldn't be purely linear for tools, or for armor, or for weapons. Like tiers should make things better yes, but maybe the material with the best mining speed has lower durability, or more weapon speed but less damage than another, etc. giving a reason to use mixed materials or specialized items for tools, weapons, and armor?*

(Also while I'm dreaming: Please let there be some more buffed options for stuff like magician gear and some of the cool stuff like pneumatic armor or the cataclysm stuff to try and be decent alternatives)

[keen fjord]

Just realized, do y’all think the pump upgrade with tanks full of lava mean you can auto reload your ion cannon

[scenic brook]

you sure can, though I use my pump upgrasde for liquid XP and mending. Reservoir can do that too

[chilly ibex]

i usually have a xp tank as well but not for MCE2....

[deep whale]

could anyone help with the modifers for ion cannon? why is it not hurting 😭

[chilly ibex]

max out metamorphium and then come back

[cobalt stag]

what's recommended post-end for weaponry and armor?

[chilly ibex]

Chromatic steel and osgloglas for weapon, dragonsteel plating and chromatic steel maille

[cobalt stag]

what about something not dragonsteel?
I've rarely seen a dragon around my world

[fickle barn]

Replace pierce with regular swiftstrike, get metamorph to 25% and pair the weapon with charge/kings wrath/abyssal predator

[deep dove]

Thought I did good with my late game sword

[rocky stump]

Define not hurting

[rocky stump]

Antimatter is x2 is probably suboptimal

[deep whale]

nevermind, it hurts now

i tried shooting it to a friend and it only did 40

[rocky stump]

Didn't fully charge?

[deep whale]

idk tbh, i full charged, used iron spells and still only did like 40

it does like 400ish now though

[torn umbra]

what tinkers armor combo do yall recomend to kill the wither, im just getting destroyed with manyllen

[chilly ibex]

Blaze netherite plating and blizz enderium maille

[torn umbra]

Am I able to get enderium before the end?

[pulsar lodge]

the thermal material, very much so

the one from majrusz's difficulty is known as "crystallized ender" as of the 1.2 update to MCE2, explicitly to avoid confusion between it and the one from majrusz'

[torn umbra]

im in game looking at jei and theres no way to make it. theres no alloy option

[pulsar lodge]

are you looking at recipes for the ingot too

[torn umbra]

yeah

[torn umbra]

i lied to you, i am blind

[fickle barn]

Netherite plating, blitz lumium maille in hat/boots, basal signalum maille on the opposite, bliz enderium maille on legs, fluix crystal maille on platebody (cant remember if it had to be on body to apply the immunities, switch to legs for enderium on body if it doesnt have to be)

[brittle warren]

Hello guys any upgrades for the armor to allow for easy repair or do i have to just stck to the plain way of repairing tinkers armor?

[narrow gull]

The recommended materials for the master katana are the best or should i replace one part with another

[fickle barn]

Novice modifier (5x magebloom fibre) will slowly self repair using ars mana

[cunning radish]

can anyone share a pre-end sledge hammer build? thx in advaned

[dense nebula]

yoo guys i need recommendations on armor and weapons before end all bosses are killed (except end ones)

[cobalt stag]

Finally got to the end

What is the best stuff now

[cobalt stag]

big number from the recommended katana

an actual normal hit does like 100, but over time it does so much my god

[dense nebula]

drop the build pls

[cobalt stag]

look in here, in the Community Recommendations

[dense nebula]

thanks

[grim anvil]

what

is best armor

and weapon

[cobalt stag]

armor is a great question
weapon is the katana found here

[fickle barn]

Netherite plates, enderium signalum lumium and fluix maille.

Osgloglas for weapon blades and probs handle(temporary), having an enderium piece is a significant dps increase

[grizzled plinth]

Can someone give me a good normal mode sword build?

[dense nebula]

wdym netherate plates they do noty exist 😭

[grim orchid]

is it maybe blaze netherite?

[fickle barn]

blaze netherite plating ye

[dense nebula]

thanks

[low apex]

any suggestions for katana set ups pre ender dragon?

[low apex]

is this decent? these are the best metals i can really get my mits on for this type of thing

[chilly ibex]

the first thing you want to do to improve your ion cannon is to disable advanced tooltips

is overburn from cinderslime though?

[low apex]

mhm

[low apex]

i swapped out one of the cinderslime blades for a blizz enderium (i thought i ran out of it) and im feeling i might need to change the chamber

[chilly ibex]

what do you have the chamber as?

[low apex]

queen slime

[chilly ibex]

i'm not the best for ion cannons but i'm pretty sure you'd want the chamber to be a pretty good material...

[low apex]

its one of the best on hand. plus it has a somewhat decent durability

35% durability

[chilly ibex]

durability doesn't matter for the ion cannon...

i'm 90% sure

[fickle barn]

U want 5x swiftstrike ex as your upgrades

Osgloglas/netherite blades, enderium as handle/chamber and fluix crystal as the opposite.

Manasteel would work as a substitute for the fluix too

After u get access to electric materials, youd want to switch to it for that part

[terse needle]

Is this cleaver can beat the wither boss ?

[fickle barn]

more than enough.

hardened glass is witherproof so you can always make a cage out of it to keep the wither inside to damage it w even the shittiest weapon imaginable

[river crown]

There's even a quest to do it with the spear from bumblezone

[fickle barn]

https://tenor.com/view/stings-doesnt-it-meme-bully-maguire-tobey-spider-man-sam-raimi-trilogy-gif-24813007

[bronze yew]

Im trying to figure out what I can do for my armor before I work on end progression more

[chilly ibex]

what do you have right now?

if you have blaze netherite and blizz enderium, that's literally all you need, sad as it is to say

[bronze yew]

Iv just got the base set of Blaze Neth and Blizz, I havnt gotten upgrades for it yet

[chilly ibex]

might wanna get that metamorphium maxed out

[bronze yew]

How

[chilly ibex]

by making the armor lose durability

[bronze yew]

I see, what is it for?

[chilly ibex]

the metamorphium increase is permanent even if you repair

it increases the armor and toughness

[bronze yew]

Ah okay

that explains why it isnt as good as my diamond quite yet

[chilly ibex]

increases by 25% at max metamorphium it's so stupid

if you add a diamond to your set, it will be

[bronze yew]

im just letting skeleton shoot me with the armor on

[chilly ibex]

you could also just do cactus

lot faster

[bronze yew]

Oh

yeah

cactus

Does meta go up to 25% or 100% on each armor peice

my helm is prob gona break first

I gota get unbreaking on it

[chilly ibex]

don't waste an upgrade on reinforcement

just stand in lava, it'll repair

applying the ars novice modifier should help a bit but i'm not sure if auto repair will make metamorphium slower

[bronze yew]

• Add Diamond to Armor
• Stand in lava

I now have a lava bath :D

If I make a 9x2x9 bath of lava does it repair faster?

than a simple 1x1x1

[bronze yew]

Alr there we go, its at 25% now

[bronze yew]

Just read it lol

[bronze yew]

ima add soulbound to my armor so I dont lose it whne I die

[cobalt stag]

So
Best ion cannon?

[low apex]

what should i even use for fuel for an ion cannon?

[chilly ibex]

lava works fine

[low apex]

are there any others i could use. im very new to the tinkers advanced stuff

i know i can use water and lava

[bronze yew]

Would this be a good pre end ion cannon?

[low apex]

this katana feels extremely brain damaged

[cobalt stag]

no densium?

[low apex]

havent bothered to make it yet. it yields 10 MB PER alloy and that dont seem worth it rn

[cobalt stag]

automation is best

whats a good matter manipulator?

disassemble crystal collar, voltaic crystal particle container, what else?

should I do protocite pick head and a blizz enderium tough handle?

[river crown]

Tbh I just did disassemble crystal collar and osgloglas everything else and it works fine

[fickle barn]

Blaze netherite plates, blitz lumium maille, basaltz signalum maille, blizz enderium maille, fluix crystal maille.

Diamond upgrade for +1 armor, novice modifier for slow autorepair, 2 pieces with melee prot 5 and 1 level of revita, 2 other pieces with 6 levels of revita, optionally crocodile modifier on platebody (further improves the defences iirc).

From there u could add more ars mana bonuses (mage, archmage, x mancer) or some irons bonuses (spell type strength, mana/cooldow), legs i think can have movement speed boost too if u need some. U probs wanna keep 1 upgrade slot free (or later on remove 1 upgrade) to apply the netherite one if u switch the plating to something like dragon metal.

Should end up being pretty damn tanky against most things

Certain cataclysm special attacks can still ruck you up, like maledictus phantom halberds and levi/harb laser beam

[low apex]

this honestly looks busted till you look what material you get it from

[dense nebula]

whats the material?

[low apex]

plastic

which is absolute buns durability wise so its not even worht it unless you use it as a binding

[dense nebula]

cant you abuse it by using plastic and then exchange to some other material and upgrades stay?

[pulsar lodge]

the upgrades are attached to the material trait

[chilly ibex]

Meaning no it doesn't work like that

if it did, you could infinitely add slots to your tool....

[low apex]

whats a good maille for dragonsteel armor?

[chilly ibex]

Chromatic steel

[low apex]

Would blaze netherite work as well?

[chilly ibex]

not as well but yea..

[rare zodiac]

Guys, i am gonna be honest

I don't get tinkers stuff at all

I make smeltry, look up this thread, talks about steel is good. I look up Steel Ingot recipes ingame with JEI, unattainable for some weird reason.

Open #📘-tips , look up Tinkers Excel sheet, talks about blowing up iron ore with TNT

Come back to this thread, look at someone talking about brass, go back ingame, check JEI for Brass, recipe unknown

[pulsar lodge]

it very much is, though you need to look at recipes for particular ingots and dusts shown, as the recipes only make that specific one

as for the TNT-related method, there was a custom recipe to blast Compressed Iron Ingots to Steel Ingots, but it was removed for being a bit too simple

other methods require some form of machinery to make

[rare zodiac]

I see , welp back into JEI

[pulsar lodge]

as for brass, idk, you didn't look hard enough, that one should be infinitely easier

the ingot or the molten form are generally where to look

[rare zodiac]

I got 187 copper blocks, life would be infinitely better if i could

finally😭

thanks again emper

so this recipe is basically correct except the steel is impurity?

[pulsar lodge]

the steel is a byproduct

but also, that's the Foundry, not the Smeltery, important distinction

[rare zodiac]

Oof, yeah foundry is basically Nether atp

[pulsar lodge]

yeah

but again, there are other means with machinery

[rare zodiac]

hmm, lemme see quest book

[rare zodiac]

oo secret

[pulsar lodge]

what

what version of the pack are you on

[rare zodiac]

uh

wait there was a whole new update

sheesh i should make steel first since i need it then update

[rare zodiac]

so uh how do i repair my armor without magebloom stuff

[plain island]

Hey Tray, do you have an video that explains tinkers? im way too confused

[chilly ibex]

you can use google yourself to find a video

i don't help unless you've actually tried

[plain island]

i meant if you could reccomend one, there are i watched macetekk & noblecactus, but its still to hard to understand for me :0

sorry

[chilly ibex]

no idea who those channels are

[chilly ibex]

i really just learned tinker's by myself, i didn't watch any videos for it

[plain island]

aight, trial and error it is xD

[chilly ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jd5fgLqzy0

[plain island]

Thanks!

[fickle barn]

You repair it whatever the core/plating was made of

[rare zodiac]

Thanks, got myself magebloom fibers and could ignore it now

[orchid marsh]

Anyone has good setup for an Ars user? 😄 , i wanna get more damage and defence but i dont want to let go of my ars spell book haha

[chilly ibex]

not the place for ars... if you want defense, just enchant your armor with reactive and imbue it with a 'self - heal - amp x4'

[orchid marsh]

Gotcha good tip , i thought the integration mod may offer more but i guess not

[cloud horizon]

What upgrades is everyone putting on their armor?

[rare zodiac]

If in Normal still, Steel Armor and Maille with Diamond on each slot, Magebloom fibers and redstone on leggings if you found a music disc already

[rose stag]

Hi
I am very new to tinker, I was very happy with my enchanted diamond armor but I still get destroyed by violent mobs
I am still in normal mode
I am trying to read this thread to figure out what I should do but I am very overwhelmed by the options
I get that it's not the point of tinker but
What armor can I make that is better than fully enchanted diamond and will carry me until I get nether items ?

[fickle barn]

Armor gets significantly stronger after nether, probs not even a terrible idea to mix in some regular magic robes to further buff spells

Id probs go with helmet and boots w ticon and body and legs w robes

Steel plating for the hat and boots, with arcane fabric maille for the spell power boost, and then just slap on a diamond, 5 magebloom fibres for the autorepair, and 3 levels of revitalisation

If u r not using any magic spells, make the body and legs w steel plating too

But instead of arcane cloth maille for any of them, could probs do something like compressed iron or just more steel

I think I just ran steel-steel before i found out the fabric added spell damage

@rose stag

U can no longer omegacheese steel w resmelting compressed iron, but pyrolyse oven + induction smelter is still pretty cheap

[rose stag]

And steel steel is better than enchanted diams ?

[fickle barn]

Probs not too far behind om raw defence

But you can also get 12-16 extra health w it

(When u go to nether u wanna remove half of the hp boost for melee resistance)

If you do get lucky and find blitzes, blizzes or basaltz in the overworld, you can summon a blaze with botanias fel pumpkin to melt them for a lumium, signalum and enderium maille for the armor

Enderium piece over time gains more defence, lumium gives lightning immunity and applies temporary glowing on the attacked entity, while signalum gives explpsion immunity and increases your stealth

[rose stag]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-hrmm-thinky-cat-hmmm-gif-26528454

[coral axle]

Hi All, it's been several years since I've last played MCE and now I'm back and there's MCE2 and I'm not able to make a MCE server anymore. I'm wondering how I should navigate this discord, and find answers to questions properly as some of the stuff I find online references a lot of the old MCE stuff and things that used to work for tinker's no longer works. I saw that this thread in particular had recent postings so I thought I'd post here first.

Any suggestions on where I can find guides that are specific to MCE2 for quests as well as tinker's upgrade paths? Things have gotten easier in some aspects and way more difficult in others. Like storage used to be done 10 million different ways, and before the end or nether you could setup remote storage pretty early on. Now it seems mining at y lvl 6-12 no longer produces diamonds and the JEI no longer tells you info about where you can find ores. In general, I'm just a boomer trying to see where I should look for documentation so I can avoid bothering people. If I'm barking up the wrong tree, please let me know.

Other than trying to find general information I was wondering if the old tricks for general optimization for MCE still applied? Like settings for ram and setting specific variables still applied.

[chilly ibex]

a lot of things that worked for MCE1 don't really work for MCE2 because of how different they are

[chilly ibex]

also this is the tinker's thread channel.. #🏮-mce-general

[rare zodiac]

is this the best normal mode broadaxe? my goal was just to use it for tree mining i had few steel ingots remaining from previous cheese

also can i upgrade modifiers?

[chilly ibex]

what materials are you using?

[rare zodiac]

oh yeah with 5 redstone blocks

[chilly ibex]

i can tell steel and copper i think?

iron..

[rare zodiac]

Steel Broadaxe blade/Bronze Handle/Brass Collar/Compressed Iron Pickhead

[chilly ibex]

yea that's pretty good actually

assuming you're only using compressed iron for the magnetic?

[rare zodiac]

somewhat yes, i just wanted more durability and leave no sticks or saplings behind

[chilly ibex]

makes sense

[manic mortar]

Some suggestions to do an Ionized Cannon that's good for Nether Progression? Heavily struggling with bosses there

[quaint onyx]

What do you think of this?

Manyullyn blade + handle; Blizz enderium handle and Antimony plate

The blizz enderium is such a good buff because i found a Fire gauntlet, so its free x2 damage

[chilly ibex]

Blizz enderium has nothing to do with fire gauntlet but it's good by itself

Don't remembee what antimony does though

[quaint onyx]

Blizz enderium doubles damage if the target is on fire. Fire gauntlet is a hand equip that makes all melee attacks set the enemy on fire, so it’s a pretty strong synergy that doesn’t require an upgrade on the weapon for fire aspect

[quaint onyx]

Slightly increases melee damage and applies plague to enemy. Plague stops regen

Although I wonder if the plagued mob can then inflict plague on me in turn?

I only tested on the dummy so I got no clue

[chilly ibex]

Blizz enderium does not do that...

It increases the stats based on the percentage of metamorphium

Oh it does, didn't know frost plating had another effect

[quaint onyx]

Yep, it’s pretty damn strong since it’s so easy to proc

I wonder why the tectonic plating is so weak in comparison

It’s just +15% of you are on fire

[chilly ibex]

i'm thinking about doing a tinker's project to balance things out but no one else seems interested. there's only a small handful of materials that actually get usage and everything else just doesn't really have a lot of usage because of horrible stats

[quaint onyx]

Being capable of inflicting 120 damage with minimal setup is pretty damn strong so I see the reasoning behind a rebalance project

Still pretty new to the modpack so I don’t really have much insight to offer

[nocturne patio]

how do i add abilities to tinkers stuff?

[chilly ibex]

it's good but when you add cataclysm boss damage caps into the mix, it doesn't really matter in the end

*btw the rebalance would bring weaker materials up to a general standard

[rare zodiac]

Ig there is a terrible oversight of materials available to use vs returns?

[pulsar lodge]

certain modifier recipes add slots. check out the Tinkers' Encyclopedia's section on Slotless modifiers, Bonus subsection.

[coral axle]

Thanks Tray, yeah, sorry, I kind of jumbled all my questions in one. I came here initially wanting to understand how tinker's in mce2 worked. At least for now, if I could maybe get more information, or if there's a wiki specific for how tinker's works in mce2, I'm glad to self serve. My google fu is probably not very good, but a lot of the stuff I found was on legacy info for MCE1 vs how things work in MCE2.

[rare zodiac]

Basically every item that you smelt or craft in Tinkers gives a specific ability usually.

You follow the questbook and get a basic part builder/tinker station/melter/smeltry built.

Now the first things first, every part has material value to it, so basically any part that you can craft in the part builder will require you to pay the cost of that in sand for metals (standard copper, iron and gold).

There are also alloys (made from mixing iron or gold or copper + modded metals/non metals), but those require you craft the part with wood or stone using a Pattern (2 sticks and 2 planks) and then pour gold over it and then you get a Alloy part cast that's reusable unlimited amount of times in Smeltry

Hope i haven't lost you till here

[rare zodiac]

Now that you are in the meat, it's just basic metallurgy + what you need from here.

If you search up the part on JEI, You will see multiples of the same part and each of them having an enchant. If you wanna read what any enchant does, hold Ctrl over it and it basically tells you what it does.

For example, a tough handle of a pickaxe made with Iron will have Magnetic I. It will pull items mined with the tool

[quaint onyx]

Do you think i add another Upgrade for hearts, or another melee protection?

I already have 64% melee prot when using the full set atm

[coral axle]

This is entirely my fault. This is extremely thorough, and I appreciate it. My original post explained I am from MCE1, but haven't played for years. I understand very basics, but it's more so jarring that I don't know what anything does anymore, like making things unbreakable doesn't require obsidian anymore surrounding plates. I'm more so wondering where I can find information on recipes so I can better self serve if that makes sense. Otherwise, if it's more advisable for me to ask direct questions here, I'm all for that too. Just don't want to bother people.

[pulsar lodge]

the mod itself has documentation built into the game in a few books. the main one you can look at for meaty details is the Tinkers Encyclopedia. JEI will also show recipes for modifiers and whatnot, but the Encyclopedia has more particular descriptions that better explain what each thing does/how it works.

[rare zodiac]

It's perfectly alright dw. It also took me too many hours to make sense of it and even Tray | Ars Fanboi's words. Happy to help anytime

[chilly ibex]

just......tray

[rare zodiac]

I didn't wanna ping

[chilly ibex]

you can reply without pinging, you know

[rare zodiac]

Nor get any other Tray

[rare zodiac]

Ye but you can always ping when mentioning them, no feature to turn off ping there

[chilly ibex]

@ is a mention though.....

[hot coral]

Been contemplating making a new weapon to go along with the new set of suggested armor set of blaze netherite and all the different elemental mailles.

So far Ive landed on a cleaver, with osgosglas blade, and blaze netherite handle. Any suggestions for the remaining two metals? Post nether, pre end preferably. (I was halfway on making an ion cannon until I noticed it required spacetravel HEH).

[chilly ibex]

since the plate doesn't really give any stats, find something with a trait you like

[hot coral]

Fair, leaves one more then

[chilly ibex]

cleaver requires 2 handles right?

so just 2 pieces of osgloglas

[rare zodiac]

That's exactly why i didn't @ and wrote the full name instead

[hot coral]

That could work yes.

[chilly ibex]

then just reply and turn off the ping

having whole usernames typed makes me feel weird as hell

[hot coral]

I also noticed people are recommending getting melee prot 5 on the blaze netherite armor, but it only goes up to 3 for me. Is that just the fact I havent used the "add modifiers to armor" traits that are listed here: https://tinkers-construct.fandom.com/wiki/Modifiers#Additional_Modifiers,_Level_1 ?