Platooning rebalance

[silver isle]

Straw man

[wide plume]

Made sure to screenshot so you couldn't edit and lie🤷‍♂️

[silver isle]

I'm not lying

Nor what I said is wrong

And you are straw manning

[forest island]

Kinda hence why people are saying to you know. Nerf the problem tanks. Over butcher platoons. Think that been made pretty obvious over the days ive been watching whats been posted.

[silver isle]

I mean, if you read my full message

You'd see I said that I wouldn't consider 26 random people in your match representative of the actual average player

[wide plume]

How is asking people about their experience in scenario they were subject to straw manning? Seems like relevant data to me. I wouldn't want to ask someone about something they've never experienced.

[silver isle]

How do we know those "couple" you asked are actually representative?

We don't

That was the point

So again, I said you could go somewhere like FB, which has groups with over 1000 members, and they are typically agreed to represent average players

And most of them don't care

[wide plume]

If i was straw manning id have an argument like you guys

Meat Dingus- "i want fair games"

Apathetic players who participate in the activity im trying to address- "you want to ruin my fun"

Thats a straw man argument my dude

[silver isle]

Deducing what I said to just "naw" is a straw man

Also we haven't all just said "You want to ruin my fun."

We've given several different arguments

You just don't like them

[severe bane]

Cold war farmer syfm Fn

[pastel zealot]

Who has this much time to argue on this?

[vapid pulsar]

Haven’t you done exactly that?

@wide plume at the end of the day though, nobody actually disagrees with you. We’d all like to see triple toxic tank platoons banned. We just think that there’s no way to go about that where it doesn’t overly restrict players from having fun playing with friends

[hexed merlin]

pretty much

[little sundial]

Exactly, I dont want to solo queue and see 3 meta tanks all playing together

But what can you do, got to just play it through and hope your team is better or you can outplay them

[vapid pulsar]

@little sundial not terribly relevant but I think you were the guy I was talking to about the 279e. I think the armor models are the same (or almost the same) on here as PC after looking at them

[wide plume]

I literally took a screenshot of you saying "nope"......

[little sundial]

You got to look closely to the armor models, the pc version does have about 10 more mm of armor on parts of its upper plate

Mainly in the centre going upwards

[wide plume]

Apparently you people who participate in this activity

[vapid pulsar]

It looks the same on the hull cheeks which is where you shoot. I really couldn’t see any difference in the models

[pastel zealot]

I haven't been on this thread in a bit and when I am its a sentence or 2

You type out essays😂

[little sundial]

Just send you some pics of it 🙂

[wide plume]

So lets get this straight. You all agree it a problem yet willfully want to do nothing about it?

[vapid pulsar]

We think your solution is worse than the problem

[vapid pulsar]

You agree that our solution (proper balance) is better but unlikely for WG to do properly

[wide plume]

Literally play both modes. Also are you a smurf account?

[pastel zealot]

I quit literally dont care. Everything cant be balance

[wide plume]

I think its great but we cant stop WG from releasing broken things. We can make sure we dont see 3 of whatever that broken thing is though. Once again I feel like youre exaggerating when literally the bare minimum im asking for is no duplicate premiums in a platoon or even more minimum what you suggested which is no dupe mirror matchmaking tanks in a platoon

[pastel zealot]

Also wargamming wont do anything so theres no use trying

[pastel zealot]

Here comes the paragraph 😂

[silver isle]

The mirror matchmaking thing isn't because we like to limit platoons. The mirror matchmaking limitation is more about helping the flow of matchmaking

We said that

[little sundial]

Like this guy said, there will always be a power imbalance regardless of what game you play.

Whether that be a gun is better than the rest of them or a car is quicker than all the others. Every game has imbalance

[pastel zealot]

Yup

[little sundial]

The reason its more of a problem to people in this game is because that the strong tanks are typical $50+

[vapid pulsar]

And we think that’s worse than what we have now. The increase in fairness doesn’t justify the decrease in fun options

[pastel zealot]

You cant balance everything

There are bigger issues to the game than this

Things that are more broken than this

[vapid pulsar]

Ghost town, identical tanks, every game

[pastel zealot]

This is not a huge deal. Been like this for 11 years

Also it used to be worse with 5 man platooning

😂

[little sundial]

30 minute queue times at that rate

[pastel zealot]

Oh ima play my resilient. I would literally never get a game😂

Today was the first time I ever saw one

[little sundial]

I wish I got it when it came out tbh, was like £10 too

[pastel zealot]

Same here

Looks epic

[wide plume]

You aren't robbed of any fun though. Its a very minor change with a massive benefit

[severe bane]

No im not an alt account im just better and smarter and can deal with a non issue like this because of that, you seem to complain about everything possible thing, for every single little thing in the game you cry about it like a lil bih😂😂

Bigger issues to worry about stop focusing on things only YOU care about buddy the world doesnt revolve around YOU😂😂

[pastel zealot]

I can confirm he is NOT an alt account

[meager helm]

[wide plume]

As arrogant as that comes off your stats are just interesting is all. I care about lots of things in this game. The one that really bugs me right now is siege mode forcing misses. The issue this thread deals with is just one i have seen since the very beginning when I started going all the way back to getting obliterated by panzer v/iv when I first started playing.

[little sundial]

Theres plenty of good tanks at tier 6. The pz v/iv definitely is less strong at tier 6. Bigger badder tanks at tier 6 like the hellcat exist. You dont hear people saying the bretagne is op even though its a panther at tier 6

[hexed merlin]

i wish the normal panther was a 6 but eh cant have nice things

[little sundial]

Yeah its definitely awful when your fighting tier 8/9 in that thing

Alot of German tanks have that problem though tbh

[hexed merlin]

yup

[little sundial]

Tiger 1/Tiger 2 especially

[wide plume]

This was back when it was a tier 5 and I literally just started playing the game. It was a seal clubbing machine

[little sundial]

I mean the hetzer is no better

Or the matilda in a top tier

I mean god I remember when the valentine was op back in the day

The electo is a seal clubber to

More op tech tree tanks at those tier tbh than premiums

[vapid pulsar]

Outside of the 40k heavies, most of the OP stuff at tier 10 is tech tree

[wide plume]

Well thats not exactly true but this thread isnt about what tanks are or aren't op as I said before. It merely acknowledges their existence and that they shouldn't be able to be mono 3 stacked

[misty mirage]

Why are we even bothering with this guy.. if we all stop chatting this can go silent because we all no it's not gonna happen.

[vapid pulsar]

He’s a genius baiter Tbf

[misty mirage]

Rage baiter final boss

[vapid pulsar]

Some might call him a master

[wide plume]

Ngl good jokes but im not letting this die. When I see it its getting posted🤷‍♂️

[wide plume]

Seen osorio and stormer 30 gang tonight

[silver isle]

I was thinking about saying that

[wide plume]

Still identifying as swine i see😆

[silver isle]

Better than literally naming myself "Dingus"

[severe bane]

Its not really arrogant if its true and also ur just yapping and crying and yapping and crying like you genuinely to Sybau lil buddy cause no one takes ur opinions serious in this discord at all espcially those of a cold war farmtard.

[zealous tendon]

nice ego

[reef burrow]

Honestly the hellcat is ridiculous. It needs to be a tier 7.

[void fox]

Super hellcat exists

[orchid sluice]

Isn't the super hellcat a buffed hellcat tho?

[outer grove]

Basically, its just given a small DPM buff and a usable turret rotation

[orchid sluice]

I see.

[reef burrow]

Super hellcat is balanced at tier 7, normal hellcat is so OP at tier 6

[void fox]

Oh real

[wide plume]

Just seen t249 gang farm a lobby. It felt disgusting being on the same team.

Also worth noting because they were platooned mirror matchmaking didn't happen the enemy team lost as soon as they spawned practically

[wide plume]

I play the game at all tiers and all eras. I want fair games. If you have nothing meaningful to say just leave.

[silver isle]

https://tenor.com/view/vinyl-records-record-collection-warped-vinyl-playing-music-record-player-gif-21484870

[severe bane]

"Fair games" ur a dork bro

[wide plume]

I can't imagine being so arrogant you make fun of someone for wanting fair games🤦‍♂️

[misty mirage]

I like how that is the first thing I see when I open this thread

[outer grove]

All you really want is the removal of platoons.

[misty mirage]

Even with that games can still be toxic as he suggests

[outer grove]

Essentially, he would rather make the game less fun for people with friends instead of nerfing problematic tanks.

[severe bane]

You want anything but fair games

[wide plume]

I have never said that anywhere in this thread.....

[wide plume]

Says the dude advocating for mk1, t249, and avre platoons 🤡

[proud tulip]

PC has better working MM including solution for platoons. Basically copy and paste. And MM is not the only thing they do better.

[wide plume]

Just seen osorio gang again still not fair or balanced

Seen it twice by different clans in a 3 game span

[misty mirage]

Uninstall button is right there dude

Instead of whining like the kid you are uninstall the game

We don't want to see your petty tantrums.

Either get good or uninstall

[wide plume]

I am good thats why its annoying to see🤦‍♂️ i use to be pretty bad but gone are the days, im just tired of seeing the copium

[misty mirage]

You're the one on the copium dude

Not us

You're coping over people using what they want

In a platoon

You keep mentioning certain tanks too as if it will do anything

[wide plume]

They use it to inflate WR, wn8 and abuse lobbies thats even been admitted within this thread.....please stop speaking of things you know nothing about

[severe bane]

Cold war bot farmer😭✌️

[misty mirage]

You clearly no nothing about people being allowed to use what they want.

There's an uninstall button

Find it

Press it

Get rid of the game

We don't want people like you trying to ruin the fun of others people have the freedom of choice ( you probably haven't heard of it ) to choose what they want to play you can't dictate what people in a platoon play.

[meager helm]

Freedom of choice is fine until it starts to have a negative impact on other players

[misty mirage]

Then they just play smth else or don't play the game.

Instead of having a petty child tantrum over smth do other things

[little sundial]

The only somewhat valid argument on his side here, is that annoying tanks like the avre do negatively effect the game playability. Want to try side scrape or go hulldown? 500 he damage

But just go away and play a different flank and force the avre in the open

It'd not impossible to deal with these "op" tanks, just sometimes annoying

Its only a problem when you try and bash your head into the problem and hope it works, or get caught with bad positioning

[gleaming sandal]

Tank already received nerfs and has a longer reload no one should be struggling against it. It's like saying the jage100 shouldn't pen with 410 pen when your side scraping.

[little sundial]

So you see how i said "op"

And im glad you and me arent struggling against the tank, but i can imagine the main player base still dont enjoy recieving 500 he damage lol

[gleaming sandal]

It's a learning thing everyone should be able to pen lower w.o a single issue, like me and you we play tons so we don't have issues for example seeing noobs try and sidescrape a jage100

[little sundial]

You dont think the jag is sidescrape capable?

[gleaming sandal]

Or better yet a teammate side scraping in front of you while your in a turret locked TD blocking access to help.

[little sundial]

The most frustrating thing to exist

And they get penned and die

[wide plume]

I play both modes...I think you're just mad you dont own an era 3 tank cause you have no era 3 games on record. 🤷‍♂️ the issue im trying to fix ruins the fun at all eras and tiers for the people not participating in the activity

[wide plume]

Just seen gau gang once again 😮‍💨 watching my allies be evaporated
Very next game elc, xm800t and mk1 gangs all made an appearance in one game.....
Hopped over to play my Chinese trash tier 9s and immediately see t58 heavy boys

[meager helm]

Yeah…..not always an option

[severe bane]

"Quick! try to shame him by saying he doesnt own a era 3 tank in a gamemode meant for bots then proceed to cry about fair games but instead take away the fun of other players and thus kill the game off even faster like a dumb ahh"

[wide plume]

I love watching you contribute nothing and cope. I just want fair games.
Im not trying to shame you im proving my point that I play the game in its entirety and you dont.
Like you literally just proved my point in your unending ignorance. Calling a gamemode you've never play "meant for bots" whatever that means. Is you talking about something you've never participated in and have no experience with. Yet here you are yapping ignorantly....

[misty mirage]

You're the one with arrogance really you keep mentioning certain tanks as if we give a damn like pack it in grow up act your age and just stop now.

[severe bane]

Bro its era 3 coldwar and i have played coldwar and it literally is for bots like everyone is already spotted its so easy to play which is exactly how i know you are being ignorant because in cold war theres no actual spotting involved you can shoot people as soon as you spawn and i have played the game and bro no one gaf about era 3 only like 30 people play that gamemode out of like 5k people

If anything you are the one coping, when u cant stat shame me you go on to the one little thing which is me not owning an era 3 tank like holy cope bro its era 3 cold war theres no way your seriously bringing era 3 coldwar in the coversation☠️☠️

[misty mirage]

Mind you he tried doing it to me then tried saying he didn't and that mine were good as if he didn't call me a seal clubber

Guy is actually coping hard

[severe bane]

Genuinely this guy cries about certain tanks 24/7. instead of whining about platoons he should whine to nerf those said tanks instead of tryna get rid of everyones ability to play with each other and have fun like this guy is an actual troglodyte😭

[misty mirage]

He's having a bigger tantrum than a child

[pastel zealot]

Biggest whiner here

[misty mirage]

Fr

[pastel zealot]

Bro i get so tired of his L takes

[misty mirage]

You me all of us

[pastel zealot]

No one ever agrees with him

Always the Sh**ers to😂

[severe bane]

2.7k wn8 btw

[misty mirage]

[severe bane]

And all of it is cold war bot farming🤣🤣🤣

[misty mirage]

[last tartan]

What is wild to me is this thread isn't locked yet lol

[misty mirage]

^

[pastel zealot]

Yea idk how

[pastel zealot]

Bro and CW inflates wn8 to😂

So worse than that even😂

[misty mirage]

[last tartan]

To a extent what he wants is valid but essentially wants platoon,s to not be viable

All I see tho

Is him going in circles about it

[misty mirage]

All I see is a child temper tantrum

[pastel zealot]

Its the tanks problems not thr platoons

Ita the tank balance

[severe bane]

Literally bro

[pastel zealot]

Just balance tanks then boom your done

[severe bane]

Whines about certain tankd then says we need to remove platoons

What a braindead kid

[last tartan]

If I were to throw in my two cents I'd say I hate that platoon,s are limited to 3 people when most games do 4 people

But that is just me

[misty mirage]

He keeps saying "just saw X tank gang again still unfair still unbalanced" kinda stuff

Like brother

He even says triple tech tree tank platoons are toxic

[last tartan]

Yeah we've all told him this 50+ times and he just doesn't get it

[pastel zealot]

Hes probably a boomer or something 😂

[pastel zealot]

Hes special I guess😂

[misty mirage]

Too special

[severe bane]

His parents gotta be siblings

[misty mirage]

Crazy

[pastel zealot]

Definitely

I mean his name says it all

Hes a dingus😂

[misty mirage]

[last tartan]

At this point I just dont care to engage in this thread it's just mindless brain waste at this point

[misty mirage]

Brother needs to be gone

[pastel zealot]

Same

There was a guy here before that was doing the same thing. My clan mate got him banned by making him say something 😂

He got banned aswell but atleast the guy was gone😂

[misty mirage]

He was muted

I risked getting myself muted for that to happen

[pastel zealot]

Dingus was?

[misty mirage]

Yh

[pastel zealot]

Let's goooo

[misty mirage]

That was ages ago tho

I got myself muted for him to get muted

Worth it tho