Mint won't install on Acer ES1-533

[acoustic shard]

mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

fuck off

[amber kettle]

lol

ROFL

[acoustic shard]

add sudo before each mount ^

[tall token]

tf?

[wise reef]

I did sudo su but it worked

[acoustic shard]

ah ok

sudo apt install arch-install-scripts

[tall token]

okay whatever what a loser

[acoustic shard]

if you aren't helping, please leave

[tall token]

couldve said it like this instead of ''fuck off'' what a loser

alright sure, bye

[acoustic shard]

if you want to argue, please send this in general.

[acoustic shard]

sudo apt update?

[wise reef]

now arch

?

yep it worked

[acoustic shard]

yes

[amber kettle]

yes if u updated the list

[wise reef]

I have 155 updates

[acoustic shard]

arch-chroot /mnt

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

dpkg -l | grep grub

[wise reef]

separetely?

[acoustic shard]

one by one

I will brb 5 minutes

[wise reef]

ok

[carmine prism]

personally i would ban you if i would be a moderator

[tall token]

acc neckbeard

[acoustic shard]

I mean, you come to random threads and start demanding support. I think you should see the issue here

[tall token]

demanding isnt asking

[acoustic shard]

this is inside chroot?

[wise reef]

I executed dpkg -l

and it showed that

yes

[tall token]

yeah i rather have microsoft in my shit rather than you fatties

[acoustic shard]

@quiet forge

[wise reef]

can you just go away? you're not being very nice

[acoustic shard]

but you ran arch-chroot before right?

[wise reef]

Yes

[acoustic shard]

ok

also add | grep grub at the end, like I typed in the command. this will only list grub packages that we need to hold

[wise reef]

oh ok now it worked

I tried to mount again just in case)

[acoustic shard]

now it's even worse.

umount -R /mnt

[wise reef]

umounted

[acoustic shard]

then do one at a time

sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

[wise reef]

ok did them

[acoustic shard]

sudo arch-chroot /mnt

then show terminal

[quiet forge]

Apparently they left

[acoustic shard]

ok, it's correct now.
dpkg -l | grep grub

[acoustic shard]

now type
sudo apt-mark hold
and after hold, type all these packages that appeared

[wise reef]

type them?

okay

sudo apt-mark hold grub-common grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-ia32-bin grub-files-mx grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub-themes-mx grub2-common

like this?

[acoustic shard]

yes

[acoustic shard]

sudo apt-mark showhold

[acoustic shard]

👍

now we can install grub. I'm on mobile so I can't search, but can you search for
from:jakjasie1 grub-install

you want to paste in the long command with --no-nvram and --efi-directory=/boot

[wise reef]

on terminal?

[acoustic shard]

on discord

[amber kettle]

what's jakjasie1?

[acoustic shard]

found it
sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --boot-directory=/boot --no-nvram

[wise reef]

oh thanks imma execute it

[acoustic shard]

it means
how me is 1

[wise reef]

installing

NO ERROR REPORTED

[acoustic shard]

yay

[wise reef]

yippie

[acoustic shard]

now go to
/boot/efi/EFI/debian

[amber kettle]

still moment of truth to see

[acoustic shard]

in your file explorer

[wise reef]

doesn't exist

[acoustic shard]

then just boot efi EFI

[wise reef]

no such thing..-

[acoustic shard]

oh, very sorry

[wise reef]

/mnt/boot/efi/EFI/

[acoustic shard]

/mnt/boot/efi/EFI

[acoustic shard]

😅

[wise reef]

:3c

ha! found it before u

[wise reef]

cute

[acoustic shard]

copy the bootx64.efi file and name it backup_bootx64

or just rename it

done?

[wise reef]

done

had to get root access first

[acoustic shard]

ah ok

so there is no more bootx64 file? if is, delete it

[wise reef]

no more bootx64

[acoustic shard]

nice

[wise reef]

just backup_bootx64 and the other ones

[acoustic shard]

now go a directory higher (the up arrow)

[wise reef]

fbia32, fbx64 and BOOTIA32

[acoustic shard]

there should be a Debian dir, like yesterday

[wise reef]

there`s not

[acoustic shard]

what is then?

[wise reef]

there is a MX and a Microsoft one

[acoustic shard]

ah, then MX

[acoustic shard]

there is a grubx64.efi file there. copy it, and name it bootx64.efi, so that you have both there

and then copy the bootx64.efi file to BOOT, so both directories have bootx64

[wise reef]

done I think

[amber kettle]

out of curiosity, is this somehow gonna scan and detect that Windows is hanging around and add it to the grub menu?

[amber kettle]

unless it did already when doing update-grub command earlier

[acoustic shard]

we didn't do it yet. now is the time to

[acoustic shard]

excellent. but remove the .efi extension from backup_bootx64.

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

now you didn't close the terminal right?

[wise reef]

no, its open

[acoustic shard]

ok

ls /home

[wise reef]

LiquifiedCha

[acoustic shard]

oki

sudo update-grub

[amber kettle]

45 minutes fixup

[acoustic shard]

hey at least it'll work

please work

[wise reef]

done

[amber kettle]

I'm hoping too

[wise reef]

it worked I believe

[acoustic shard]

now exit
umount -R /mnt

[amber kettle]

heh .. and this friggin 5 second timer in tickets is utterly retarted

[wise reef]

not mounted

[acoustic shard]

did you type exit first?

sorry for the confusion

[wise reef]

target is busy

[acoustic shard]

well we can pretend we umounted it then

[amber kettle]

oh wait

give time

cuz I know even on my SSD, updating grub seems to take a stupid long time. like 30 seconds, instead of 1 second

no rush this part

[wise reef]

okay

[acoustic shard]

oh okay

[amber kettle]

should be done now

try the unmount command

[wise reef]

not really, is busy still

ok it done

[amber kettle]

play some brickbreaker

[wise reef]

Worked

[amber kettle]

or librebrick or w/e it's called

koo

is that everything to do, @acoustic shard ?

[wise reef]

this is cool

[amber kettle]

yeah that game is fun but sure makes me nervous as hell

[wise reef]

I lost :(

[amber kettle]

gotta have a very calm precise hand and mouse

[wise reef]

I noticed, it also got smaller with the "upgrades"

[amber kettle]

u are using mouse now anyway right?

[wise reef]

I am

[amber kettle]

yeah some of the falling "prizes" are anti-powerups (handicaps)

[wise reef]

Also, make sure nothing with root access is open when doing umount -R /mnt

[amber kettle]

so u gotta memorize the handicaps icons

[wise reef]

I believe that was the reason why it said it was busy

[amber kettle]

to avoid them later

so it's done now? closed all windows n stuff except terminal?

[wise reef]

Yes and firefox

[amber kettle]

k

updated grub, exited from chroot

open Disk Manager from the start menu

then show

[amber kettle]

oh seems that windows ntfs one still mounted but that's aight

i guess it's time to reboot, but check ur BIOS to ensure that Windows Boot Manager is second or third in the list

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

and whatever MX grub thing is at top of the UEFI list

[wise reef]

I'll reboot it

on bios ofc

[acoustic shard]

yes it's ok

warning: user is not in sudoers file. this incident will be reported

[wise reef]

where?

[wise reef]

now I save and exit?

and boot as normal? I'd assume

[acoustic shard]

yes

[amber kettle]

move USB FDD to the very bottom

that's a usb floppy drive which is almost never a thing

anyway, the rest seems fine

[wise reef]

let me get back there

[amber kettle]

though I'm a bit surprised it didnt show something like "debian"

[amber kettle]

similar to how Mint shows UBUNTU as a UEFI entry

akin to how the uefi loader for Windows is called "Windows Boot Manager"

[acoustic shard]

it doesn't recognise grubx64.efi as a valid file I believe

but oh well

[wise reef]

ok done

now I boot as normal

[amber kettle]

fine boot the hdd

[wise reef]

I Wonder if I should use f12 to boot the hdd

[amber kettle]

no cuz u just set up the order. just take out usb n hit it

[wise reef]

well, we're on windows

[amber kettle]

ok download supergrub 2

google it

[wise reef]

Okay

[amber kettle]

it comes as a .img file I believe

[wise reef]

just put it to usb?

[amber kettle]

save to C:

[wise reef]

ok

[amber kettle]

C:/usersblakbalbhalkdfbjalb/Downloads

[acoustic shard]

hmmm

[amber kettle]

then COPY it to the ventoy place (delete fedora or whatever if u dont have space)

[wise reef]

on it

[acoustic shard]

I'm surprised it didn't work, as we changed windows to grub
but listen to stunner now, he's smart

[wise reef]

Oh I'll need winrar probably

[amber kettle]

huh?

[wise reef]

or can windows unzip .zips?

[amber kettle]

ofc

it can enter as a regular folder, then u just extract it by cut/move

or right-click

[wise reef]

Oh ok ok

[amber kettle]

Windows 9x needed WinZip and WinRAR

modern stuff STILL needs RAR crap cuz - proprietary

[wise reef]

gotta love proprietary software

[acoustic shard]

just to confirm, you pasted the bootx64.efi file from the MX folder, not anything else?

[wise reef]

yes

[acoustic shard]

okay

[amber kettle]

this the website btw #1200928716415566005 message

er link

[wise reef]

I'm downloading it, 13s left

sourceforge limits speed I think

[amber kettle]

need 500 MB free

[wise reef]

I'll put it to venroy

copy over

done

[amber kettle]

right click it

it ends in .img right?

[wise reef]

.iso

[amber kettle]

hm

[wise reef]

oh no yeah
img

[amber kettle]

k so boot it

[amber kettle]

once u boot into it, there's some kind of orange screen that says Search for available OS's

then scroll that list way down to the EFI entries and find that grubx64.efi one

[wise reef]

detect and show boot methods?

[amber kettle]

and press whatever it says to run it (probably Enter)

[amber kettle]

u can but idk there's a manual one

[amber kettle]

boot manuualy

[wise reef]

oooki

[amber kettle]

just for fun, try linux

[amber kettle]

no

[wise reef]

linux from boot partition? or linux

[amber kettle]

just linux

ignore anything ventoy

[amber kettle]

yep

hilight the vmlinuz kernel and fire

[wise reef]

OOO

it's alive!

[amber kettle]

gg

[wise reef]

Now

To open this up I have to go to f12?

and do that everytime?

[amber kettle]

wdyn

[wise reef]

to boot linux

[amber kettle]

oh yeah u have to fire up , u must boot ventoy, then supergrub, then manual

[wise reef]

okok

That's fair tbh

now I can just do whatever? I'd imagine?

[amber kettle]

did it get to desktop?

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

and show first welcome

[wise reef]

yeah

[amber kettle]

check in Diskmanager

it will show what's what

[amber kettle]

but yeah u selected HD2 p5 before so i think ur good

from that orange screen

yes, u see there, anything that IS MOUNTED (not counting USB) shows a value in the "USED" column

ur ventoy stickk will show as a regular flash drive in file manager, and u can use it normal as flash

i think

can test

[wise reef]

hm?

yes

[amber kettle]

see if u can make a text file on the ventoy stick rn

if u can then it's all good n running normal

[wise reef]

I can

[amber kettle]

that means u can safely eject it too, and MX will run from HDD np

but u will always need the usb to kickstart it

[wise reef]

Nice :D

[amber kettle]

have a look thru the MX Manual on the desktop. it's a pdf.. very very good info how to use linux.. try updating n see if codecs installed

idk if there was an option in installer about codecs

[acoustic shard]

@wise reef you can try and compare if BOOT bootx64.efi and MX bootx64.efi files are same, there's a command in the terminal for this. if they aren't the same, make sure to copy them over again. I'll go to sleep now. btw stunner wanna help some guy install Ventoy and then windows in gpt?

[amber kettle]

if not, open synaptic, click reload button

then search multimedia-codecs

[acoustic shard]

night

[amber kettle]

goodnight lot

[amber kettle]

sure.

just let them tag me

[wise reef]

@amber kettle im back

what do I need to do?

MP3 Is working

It's perfect, really

I'll install some apps and read the manual

[amber kettle]

hm

yeah check Synaptic hit the reload

[wise reef]

oh I did already

[amber kettle]

and the MX updater HOLD BACK anything grub related

just in case.

[wise reef]

nothing of grub it seems

oh here

[amber kettle]

that grub-efi package lot had u install earlier, u can search it in synaptic, find it (it should have a green tickbox already) then go to Package menu, Lock version

[amber kettle]

idk if it matters anyway since ur using supergrub, but i'd hate to see some total shit where it breaks ur dpkg and apt again.

check in Help menu for LEGEND

[wise reef]

lock grub-efi-amd64-bin

?

[amber kettle]

help menu of synaptic

so u learn all the icons

[wise reef]

oki

alr imma give it a red

read*

[amber kettle]

i dont think u need that library shown

like if u convert formats around n watever

[wise reef]

ffmpeg is for mp3 I thing

[amber kettle]

to CONVERT things,

[wise reef]

Audacity uses it so its probably fine

[amber kettle]

if it plays it's fine already

but if u ever need it later there it is

[wise reef]

oh nice

[amber kettle]

just search icon legend in help so u know what's going on

[amber kettle]

no the help menu in synaptic

[wise reef]

oh ok found it

alr alr

[amber kettle]

that's the one

[wise reef]

how do I lock down grub?

[amber kettle]

sadly it doesnt use the traditional "green" for installed

[amber kettle]

i thought u already did

[wise reef]

it uses blue

[wise reef]

idk how nor which ones lol

ok so this

[amber kettle]

the one lot said earlier

[wise reef]

for every installed one, I'd assume?

[amber kettle]

that package of grub efi u installed thru terminal

untick all those

[wise reef]

hm?

[amber kettle]

just grub-efi 64amd

[wise reef]

oh ok

[amber kettle]

highlight and lock it

and grub-efi

and the grub amd64 bin one

that's it

[wise reef]

done

i'll unlock the others

[amber kettle]

so u should see three lines with lock symbols

that's it.

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

kool

all set

[wise reef]

nice

I'm oficially a linux user

[amber kettle]

nice.

[wise reef]

I'll now do.. computer stuff

and human stuff too

[amber kettle]

if u lose that usb stick just remake it from windows again

[wise reef]

ah true, I should make a backup of it

[amber kettle]

and also if u have some imporant data to save (that is not super private for govt) do a thing like Onedrive or google drive or NXTcloud

that goes for ur phone too. in case u smash or lose it

[wise reef]

Those are good tips, I'll do that

at least for images

and videos

[amber kettle]

if there is private things, then buy a new USB stick or external HDD or buy usb DVD-burner and burn copies

[wise reef]

and text files

[amber kettle]

oh u have a backup HDD anyway i think i remember

[wise reef]

Yes I made one in case I'd corrupt windows

which I did

[amber kettle]

lol

u may want to check youtube for "things to turn off in Windows right away"

to help keep u safer

[wise reef]

I disabled cortana and am sending the least info possible from boot

but I guess I'll have to do some more stuff... shesh

[amber kettle]

oh did u try Strawberry music player yet?

[wise reef]

yes I did, it's really cool

[amber kettle]

if u copy back ur music collection, it can scan the hdd and make a library

and it has some online radios too built in

[wise reef]

last time it didn't work sadly

but now with the codecs it does

I'm installing software from synaptic

[amber kettle]

VLC also has web things like ICECAST channels (all free) which are like web radios, some high quality

[wise reef]

I might give it a try, I used to have a radio extension for firefox

[amber kettle]

btw MX also includes TIMESHIFT should make one now

[wise reef]

but it was a bit broken

[amber kettle]

and u can tell it save the TIMESHIFT SNAPSHOTS onto the external drive u have.

and do like one snapshot per week or per 2 weeks

[wise reef]

Sure

[amber kettle]

in case system gets very f'd up , u can just use the live ventoy MX to launch timeshift (if the installed one is super broken) or the installed timeshift, and "restore from prior snapshot"

[wise reef]

I'll probably buy a DVD reader burner

Didnt though about it before

but it sounds like a great idea since dvds are kinda cheap and I can keep multiple of them

[amber kettle]

yeah for long time special memories or whatever, u can buy archive-grade DVD-Rs

which are rated to last decades

(as long as dont melt or scratch)

[wise reef]

this makes me worry a bit

[wise reef]

Dvds can melt??

[amber kettle]

sure, if u keep near heat source, they can warp

then bad read

[wise reef]

Oh so not at normal temperature

[amber kettle]

idk what that thing is.. compiling code for new kernel or what?

[wise reef]

installing software

idk what it is either

should be fine tho?

[amber kettle]

it mentions kernel 6.1

[wise reef]

It did ran a sanity check

so it might go crazy (I hope not(

[amber kettle]

idk what that is. anyway i gotta go

[wise reef]

Well it should be fine anyway

goodbye and take care! ^^

[wise reef]

All is well, it updated with no issues. Case closed

[amber kettle]

u know both it and VLC have audio equalizers too for perfecting the sound to suit your taste and speakers.

[wise reef]

Yeah, I use it sometimes at night when the sound is at minimum and feels too high

Equalizers

[amber kettle]

fun

what's ur speaker setup like?

[wise reef]

I got the notebook ones and my headphones

lol

[amber kettle]

I use laptop with line-out to a good wicked boombox or sometimes stereo system

[wise reef]

oh nice

[amber kettle]

welcome to the linux community at last 😛

[wise reef]

thank you :)

[amber kettle]

dont forget Timeshift.. it's a save ur ass free card for the installed OS health.

[wise reef]

I'll just keep windows around for roblox, sadly they ended support for linux, my little cousin invites me to play sometimes

[amber kettle]

cuz no OS is perfect.

[wise reef]

oh true, I'll make it

[amber kettle]

after that u can check out MX Package installer. It's like a handy little place that the distro maker put together for either native repo apps (which synaptic or apt can handle) and for other things like Spotify or skype that are non-FOSS

[wise reef]

Do you know a easy way to download droidcam?

It is installable on linux, but I couldnt understand the steps

[amber kettle]

make a new ticket

[wise reef]

true

[amber kettle]

SOLVED
SOLUTION: Installed Windows 10. Co-Installed MX-Linux with manual setup, and purposely no GRUB bootloader, then used Supergrub2 usb disk to start the linux system each time.

[acoustic shard]

Cha, when you get back up, we can try to make it so on boot you can just select windows or linux, no need to do supergrub manually.
try to
sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
sudo diff /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/mx/bootx64.efi /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi from live session

or from the supergrub
sudo diff boot/efi/EFI/mx/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi

make sure to disable Fast startup and things like stunner mentioned

[wise reef]

Hii good morning, I'll do that once it boots, and check if fast boot is off ofc

ok did it, I'll reboot now

disabled it

it booted into windows

[acoustic shard]

from a live session

or using supergrub, like yesterday

[wise reef]

this from a live session?

[wise reef]

I did that

maybe if I activate secureboot

[acoustic shard]

no

secure boot will only make it worse

[wise reef]

i'll execute the command again and send you a screenshot

file or directory doesnt exist

last time it didn't say that

[acoustic shard]

ah, add / before boot

it wont work because the syntax is incorrect :p

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

it would imply that theyre the same, hmm

[wise reef]

Hmm... Would dual boot work with windows 7 and 10?

[acoustic shard]

efibootmgr

[acoustic shard]

propably, but why do you want windows 7?

[wise reef]

Oh, I don't

[acoustic shard]

oooooooookay

not sure what do, then

[wise reef]

it's probably UEFI's fault

We should've installed in legacy, I believe, but oh well

[acoustic shard]

nah, then i don't know how we would get it to work at all

[wise reef]

I don't mind going through supergrub

soo

[acoustic shard]

ah okay.

well, it's an extra step. but it works. therefore solved

[wise reef]

:D

I'll try and install droidcam

[acoustic shard]

you could propably replace Windowsbootmanager with MX and it would then work. but we'll leave it be xd

[wise reef]

hmm we could

I'm up if you are

[acoustic shard]

sudo mv /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.cpy

i think i typed it out correctly

surprise cat

[wise reef]

the cat goes woof

[wise reef]

well, no issues

[acoustic shard]

sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/mx/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

[wise reef]

doesnt exist

oh .cpy?

[acoustic shard]

maybe i forgor and mx folder is named diffrently

[acoustic shard]

no, it complains there is no mx directory

ls /boot/efi/EFI

[wise reef]

BOOT Microsoft mx

but blue

[acoustic shard]

ls /boot/efi/EFI/mx

[wise reef]

bootx64.efi

[acoustic shard]

ahh

sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/mx/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/mx/grubx64.efi

then run the one above

[acoustic shard]

yes

[acoustic shard]

now
sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/mx/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

now try to reboot

[wise reef]

oh it does work?

I'll remove the pendrive next

this is fun

it opened mx linux

and I had the option to boot Windows too

Well done

[acoustic shard]

i didnt think it would work 😳

[wise reef]

KSHQHSJJA it did!

oh

[acoustic shard]

what

[wise reef]

windows doesnt boot from this screen

[acoustic shard]

what does it do

[acoustic shard]

does it return to the screen?

[wise reef]

just goes back to the same screen

[wise reef]

yes

[acoustic shard]

ahhh.

[acoustic shard]

set the line
chainloader... to
bootmgfw.efi.cpy

essentially add .cpy at the end

and then press F10 i belive

[wise reef]

oh yep

[acoustic shard]

it worked?

[wise reef]

it worked

the windows loading circle

aaand yeah

[acoustic shard]

well. that is an extremly cursed and propably unstable setup. i'm pretty sure windows will break something next time it updates lol

[wise reef]

the screen ratio is weird

[acoustic shard]

was it like that before too?

[acoustic shard]

looks normal

[wise reef]

it was less... thick

more notable here

wide windows

[acoustic shard]

just login in and set the proper resolution xd

[wise reef]

eh anyway probably won't do anything

Can I disable windows updates?

[acoustic shard]

no

[wise reef]

I don't really care for them

[wise reef]

Shit...

imma hope it doesn't break then

[acoustic shard]

I mean, there is probably some hacky way to do that, but you know it's not a good idea

[wise reef]

here it is.. 1024x768

it's detecting the screen weirdly

[acoustic shard]

maybe there is some other way to make the bootx64.efi file default, not windows boot manager. we could probably remove windows boot and then it could always fallback to bootx64, but it propably would get broken by windows later on

[wise reef]

oh okay, it probably won't have that many updates

[acoustic shard]

lol

[wise reef]

just security ones probably

[acoustic shard]

it's in the control panel

[wise reef]

fuck over?

what is blocked? lol

[acoustic shard]

oh btw, I believe you'd have to manually add .cpy each time you want to use windows. there is a way to modify grub.cfg and set it properly

[acoustic shard]

probably

[wise reef]

We can do that, I'll look up a way to fix the screen res later

I'll boot up linux

[wise reef]

where is grub.cfg btw?

or how can we do it

[acoustic shard]

I believe /boot/grub

[wise reef]

just need to add .cpy at the end, I believe, right?

[acoustic shard]

yes, but be cautious, as editing it may break something

so you'd need to locate the exact windows boot manager line

and you need to open it as root

[wise reef]

there it is

[acoustic shard]

yez

[wise reef]

done

now I'll boot it again

perfect

:)

[acoustic shard]

:)

[carmine prism]

respect to you lot , you spend so much time helping this guy you deserve peace nobel prize

[acoustic shard]

xd thank you.

this is a common support place though

[wise reef]

He does, Lot and Stunner should get statues

Will you try to install linux on your acer lot?

[acoustic shard]

nah, I don't need it anyway

I used a different silmar model but from Lenovo

it worked good, until it somehow cooked itself

I now have a desktop with i5-6600. the difference in performance between the two is unmeasurable

[wise reef]

I imagine lol

[acoustic shard]

talking about performance, you could spend a bit and buy a SSD for this laptop. it would make your system like 400% faster

[wise reef]

I was thinking about that

Would I have to setup w10 and linux again?

or can the files be copied over

[acoustic shard]

probably

if single boot windows or Linux, it'd be easier. and now we know all the steps to do it properly

[wise reef]

We do have the steps now so shouldnt be much trouble anyway

I'll buy a SSD, probably one with more space too

I don't plan on keeping this acer for long but it deserves to be taken good care of

[acoustic shard]

256/512 should be enough I think

[wise reef]

Hmm probably

[wise reef]

fixed the screen res, had to install the graphical drivers

[acoustic shard]

lol

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Forgive me for not reading all of that. Running a dual boot in MBR mode only works if Windows was already installed in MBR mode. If you need something else, feel free to quickly summarise and tell me what you need. Ping is okay.

[acoustic shard]

well, we kinda figured it out in UEFI and I have no idea on how you would hijack the windows bootloader on legacy anyway

1. install windows as normal
2. run Mx installer, install alongside windows but do not install a bootloader
3. from Mx live boot(arch-chroot) or using supergrub, enter mx Linux
4. mark all grub related packages
5. grub-install ... --no-nvram
6. copy windows bootloader and rename it
7. replace grub64.efi file with bootmgfw...efi (used by windows)
8. in grub.cfg, change windows to use the renamed bootloader instead
9. will work until windows updates the bootloader :)

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Then better do not install the recent Windows updates. There was some dual-boot breaking bug in there.

[acoustic shard]

it only applied with secure boot

[wise reef]

helloo

[acoustic shard]

helloo

what error does supergrub give?

[wise reef]

it shows this message

just a sec

ok now it worked

but it showed like

a black screen and some text far spaced out

I'll just boot up mx with it

[acoustic shard]

hmm

[wise reef]

missing an... OS?

idk it said that I was missing something

anyway

[acoustic shard]

propably missing a bootloader

[wise reef]

KSJSJSHSJJSJE Cant deny I am

the text is as it's supposed to here

the boot files appear to be normal

[acoustic shard]

remove the bootmgfw.efi.cpy file from Microsoft

rename the new bootmgfw.efi and add .cpy at the end, like before

copy the grubx64.efi file to Microsoft and rename to bootmgfw.efi

[wise reef]

Ok I think I did it

I'll reboot

YES IT WORKED

Nice, thank you so much

[acoustic shard]

yay

you could probably make it into a script, so you don't have to do it manually each time windows Fricks it up.

I will sleep now, good night

[wise reef]

That's something I should learn

Probably not that complicated

let me just make the steps clearer

[acoustic shard]

you'd need the rm, mv and cp commands here only

just make sure to not delete anything important

[wise reef]

delete /boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.cpy

rename /boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.cpy

copy file /boot/efi/EFI/mx/grubx64 to boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/

rename boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/grubx64 to boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

I just let a file with those commands on my desktop screen and the pendrive around

so it gets fixed with one click

[acoustic shard]

3rd line MX*

and ye should be that

[wise reef]

Oh sweet, thanks

[wise reef]

@acoustic shard are you free?

[acoustic shard]

kinda

[wise reef]

I do need your help... if youncan windows isn't booting and the files are there as normal

[acoustic shard]

wdym windows isn't booting?

details

[wise reef]

It goes back to that boot screen

mountains menu

I'll show u

unless it decides to work... in which case I'll believe you have some sort of influence on computers

[acoustic shard]

hmm, click E on the windows entry

[wise reef]

I did notice that files didnt have a .cpy for some reason, so I fixed that by copying over the grubx64 and stuff

[acoustic shard]

hmm. did it work m yesterday?

[wise reef]

it did

Just today that it stopped for some reason

didnt even update windows lol

[acoustic shard]

you copied grubx64.efi and renamed it to bootmgfw.efi.cpy?

[wise reef]

yes

[acoustic shard]

that's the issue

you need to copy the bootmgfw.efi file, here you're just loading grub again

[wise reef]

I'll boot linux and see that real quick

[acoustic shard]

you probably overwritten your entire windows bootloader now

[wise reef]

fuck

can I download it?

[acoustic shard]

you should be able to fix it from the windows installer

look up on the internet "how to recreate windows bootloader uefi"

it's usually going to the windows terminal and doing some commands that generate it again

[wise reef]

Thanks, I'll fix that 😭

I'll make a backup of those files

just in case

[acoustic shard]

ye, probably a good idea

[wise reef]

fixed

[acoustic shard]

nice. just remember that you can't delete the bootmgfw.efi file after you update windows/the grub menu doesn't show up anymore

[wise reef]

the dude in the video told that it would be a simpler boot file and stuff, should I boot the windows install and upgrade/ do whatever he said to do or is the current one ok?

https://youtu.be/CZ17JrgFFhw

[acoustic shard]

wait what?

[acoustic shard]

he looks idiotic but I'll watch it when I get home

[wise reef]

kshwjdhwj he does take a lot of time to get into action

Around half-way into the video

9:43~

but since I'm a bit dumb it's good to have someone explain what stuff is so I dont format anything I'm not supposed to by accident

[acoustic shard]

i watched only a bit but yes that's what you want to do

I think the simplest way would be to just remove windows (or Linux, if you don't like it) and just keep single OS. less trouble with this

[amber kettle]

yeah this is the vid I always recommend.

don't worry about what he says near the very end. the generic windows efi rebuild should do just fine

2nd time u trashed ur Windows.

[acoustic shard]

1st*

[amber kettle]

remember when he deleted Windows the first time?

in dual-boot install attempt.

[wise reef]

I need windows for games, sadly most games don't work on linux for me even with proton and stuff

and roblox doesnt support it at all so... yea

[acoustic shard]

ah, ye xd

[wise reef]

This time it's for an interview tho

[acoustic shard]

Roblox works

[wise reef]

the mic doesnt work on linux

[acoustic shard]

Roblox on Linux:

1. in terminal run:
   flatpak install --user https://sober.vinegarhq.org/sober.flatpakref
2. open "Sober" app from your start menu
3. download Roblox from https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/roblox-corporation/roblox/
4. select the .apkm file in sober

[wise reef]

oh

I'll try that

noted down

[acoustic shard]

it runs better than on windows xd

[wise reef]

minecraft did too lol

[acoustic shard]

although how can you play on this laptop? me in even non demanding games it lags below 15 FPS

[wise reef]

I play less demanding games

[amber kettle]

if u can pick up one of these (usb-to-analog 3.5mm i/o soundcards) they're not expensive, then u can run the analog mic no prob

[wise reef]

Like Katana Zero, Terraria

[wise reef]

I'll look for one, I just don't have money for anything right now :')

[acoustic shard]

btw cha, did you repair windows already?

[wise reef]

Yes

I'm waiting for the interviewer to send the link

prepared my setup for it lol

with the pillow and stuff (my camera has a dent on it so it has the blurriest image ever

so I'll use droidcam

[amber kettle]

lol

[wise reef]

ehh I dont like my face

I'll just take another photo

[amber kettle]

i was giggling about the dented camera

[amber kettle]

what the

[wise reef]

Oh dw I know

[wise reef]

KSHWWHDKZHWHEH

[amber kettle]

did u sound check first?

[wise reef]

yes, it's working

[amber kettle]

use sound recorder

ohk

[wise reef]

that would've been easier...

[amber kettle]

u know how stupid windows is now?

I was at a store while ago

wanted to test a mic on a pc there...

[wise reef]

I do

[wise reef]

What happened?

[amber kettle]

they let me test on a floor model, and SOUND RECORDER insisted

on an update.

and it wouldnt update

[wise reef]

Sound recorder... UPDATE

[amber kettle]

i was like fk this shittt

[wise reef]

What is that even for like??

Recording changed?

[amber kettle]

so i used an online recording website to test

but i was SO annoyed

i remember win 95/98,

sound recorder always just worked

[wise reef]

I heared it was pretty good

for its age, ofc

[amber kettle]

and would launch in 0.25 seconds

[wise reef]

Without SSDs

[amber kettle]

this new one, on a NEW machine, took 15 seconds to start and then tell me needs update

[wise reef]

bruh

[amber kettle]

lol gg MS

[wise reef]

Yeah I'm not switching back to windows

When I get a new pc I'll straight out flush it down

[amber kettle]

if u want super simple audio recorder on linux (with editing tools too) get ocenaudio

or gnome sound recorder just for memes or quick voice notes

btw does ur builtin mic work on linux?

[wise reef]

It does

but it's probably on some weird place

And it always sucked

[amber kettle]

yeah. my machine same issue, the screen mic works bt not the 3.5mm. i bought the cheap usb mic the same day of that story

[acoustic shard]

interview for what?

[wise reef]

I think it's for a programming course

[acoustic shard]

I believe it's above the keyboard, next to where the blue lights are

[acoustic shard]

"I think" good luck

[wise reef]

I couldnt do worse at the coding department at the test they gave us

but my english is pretty good so I got at least half of the grade

I had 1 hour and a half to do it, so I openned up a python video on how to program

and watched it. Idk if the code worked and I just brute forced something in the end lol

To be fair, they said it was a coding course, then wanted me to know how to code already...

anyway I'll get ready

see ya guys later :3

[amber kettle]

cya gl

[wise reef]

did it, it went well

I stuttered a bit but eh, that happens

[acoustic shard]

did you get hired

[wise reef]

It wasn't for a job lol, they'll publish it next month, day 4

The interview for the job isn't marked yet, they probably aren't that interested

but I did text them about it yesterday