os crash during mint installation! how can I recover my data?

[wheat junco]

on a test hard drive yes

[low yacht]

I don't know but WiFi settings and bright settings blew my mind when i saw GNOME

It had sliders like android

Thay made me feel good about gnome

[wheat junco]

im not stopping you, u test drove it. the way the app launcher menu opens full screen etc

[low yacht]

https://youtube.com/shorts/92DTYsR-bgU?si=36eVL_CWj_OscTJz

Talking about this UI

Feels easy and smooth

Won't be same in mate right

[devout mortar]

why you use Gparted to install Linux Mint ????? you dont even need that.... you need to make Linux partition as EXT4 in Mint installation and select is as root as / ofcourse you could use Gparted if WIndows 7 is stuck......but in windows 7 you can also do shrink for the partitions and split them.

[wheat junco]

oh that was old computer. we figured that issue out long ago

[devout mortar]

you are still writing here . . .

[wheat junco]

@low yacht look in the top right corner of the picture.. the speaker icon, to its left the network icon.. it does the same thing as in video

[wheat junco]

yeah it's an adventure.

[devout mortar]

do you know who have best sallary in jobs ?

as working people....

medical doctors, bank managers and city managers

[wheat junco]

Doctors

ok

[devout mortar]

police chief has almost the best

in my country, finland

[wheat junco]

that has nothing to do with this support ticket though

[devout mortar]

9 439 euros in month

[wheat junco]

chat in main about that

[devout mortar]

how i can remove all my writings on the thread ?

[wheat junco]

just leave it

[low yacht]

i would go with gnome @wheat junco

[wheat junco]

sure then.. it does have desktop zoom too fyi

download it.. find ur ventoy stick from last time

[low yacht]

i want to use oldest support version of ubuntu

[wheat junco]

why?

[low yacht]

for better speed

newest would be heavier

[wheat junco]

nah u should be fine. the newer GNOME is functionally better than 4+ years ago

[low yacht]

https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours

check kylin

looks like windows

[wheat junco]

lol see some videos first about that.. idk if has even English 😛

[low yacht]

what is the difference between Cinnamon and gnome?

[wheat junco]

the workflow.

Cinnamon has the similar menu that u already tried on Mint

[low yacht]

mint was good

antix was scary.... totally lost my faith in linux after using that

[wheat junco]

lol

[low yacht]

it was dead boring

[wheat junco]

I kept it, but recently switched drives and am running MX Linux the flagship one

i think for you, Budgie would be perfect. modern and cool, yet also familiar workflow

u can download both it, plus Ubuntu Kylin onto the ventoy usb. and boot up either one (live mode) and test it out for a day

[low yacht]

simiar UI as mac

[wheat junco]

I think i flipped mine around

that's budgie from a few years ago.

[low yacht]

why flagship isn't there

[wheat junco]

i just flipped the dock to the top

and customized the bottom bar to see wide task buttons how i like it

and moved the clock to right

[wheat junco]

wdym?

[low yacht]

flagship environment

[wheat junco]

oh there's videos at the bottom of page. it's obviously a website showcasing the other flavours

[wheat junco]

did u see this? full screen it

[low yacht]

yes

i'm unable to get the link for download ubuntu

[wheat junco]

find their official webpage

[low yacht]

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

ubuntu LTS 24

6gb

[wheat junco]

it's the green button.

yes 5.7 GiB

check the system requirements

nvm ur cpu clock speed is fast enough

[low yacht]

why it's not showing which desktop flavour we are trying to download

[wheat junco]

i honestly don't know why they're ISO is so huge

[wheat junco]

cuz ur on the glorious main one. which is only GNOME on that site

the other flavours all have some different maintainer ppl and websites

[low yacht]

yeah that's pain

should i use IDE to download it ?

does that software really works?

have you ever used?

[wheat junco]

the budgie one is 3.7 GiB

i just checked

[wheat junco]

u mean torrent?

@low yacht

[low yacht]

internet internet download manager

it's a popular software

for downloading

[wheat junco]

ah

wonder what ur download rate is... it should show in that manager

[low yacht]

I think it's the most heaviest iso of all time😹

[wheat junco]

just a bit smaller than Window 11!

yeah it's fun to experiment with different Linux distros. I did my share.

as u saw from the screenshots

[low yacht]

There is something new i got today WSL 2

[wheat junco]

on ur new computer?

[low yacht]

No! I got to know it only

[wheat junco]

the one u paid for few months ago

[low yacht]

It was my friend

Not me

[wheat junco]

oh cuz u wrote to Curunir here and later mentioned u spent 24000 rupee on it

i thought u bought new for urself

[low yacht]

Yeah it was for my friend. I'm just grinding my knowledge for now

[wheat junco]

ah

so you still on the really old one from like 2006?

[low yacht]

I kept that aside!! Now using this HP one.... That previous one had issues

[low yacht]

Tough laptops produces tough geeks😹

[wheat junco]

ah

[low yacht]

Once i get a decent job and i save good amount of money I'll switch to a gaming laptop/pc

[wheat junco]

keep your Ventoy usb stick. it's handy like crazy

or last time u did a ventoy SSD cuz everything was going wrong 😄

[low yacht]

I have it

[low yacht]

Most of the things work like that in my life

[wheat junco]

I have TWO old hard drives with Ventoy on them i use for distro testing

same as u with the bridge cable

[low yacht]

😹 i was madly try to deep dive and fix

[wheat junco]

to USB

[low yacht]

One day all these experiences make sense

I wanted to get into cyber security

[wheat junco]

i was just about to ask taht

what do u do now?

[low yacht]

But it's toughest thing ever

Explore python... Linux, networking and AWS

[wheat junco]

oh so you work for amazon?

[low yacht]

I don't like coding

[low yacht]

No! I work as a system administrator

Local company

Domestic one

[wheat junco]

oh ok.. i mistook the correlation to Amazon Web Services

[low yacht]

If I'm working in Amazon 😹 I'll buy threadripper

But one thing seems painful to me! You're good at tech and not working in IT

[wheat junco]

someone in this server recently mentioned their wife got a free computer laptop from the work company who upgraded, and let her keep the old one.. without drive.

and it was only 3 years old machine!

[wheat junco]

meh. hobbies are fun.. jobs arent

[low yacht]

It happens!! When your boss is too good

[low yacht]

Everyone is switching to tech

What are you your hobbies

[wheat junco]

i cant even really say cuz idk

[low yacht]

You need some philosophy in your life

[wheat junco]

offering help on Discord is one

[low yacht]

😹

[wheat junco]

and watching youtube

and listening to web radio is another

it's fun to discover so many different web stations from all over.

[low yacht]

Watch fireship

[wheat junco]

oh ya .. the 60 seconds guy

[low yacht]

Ever heard about Kevin mitnick?

[wheat junco]

the cure book

[low yacht]

Yeah! Makes good content on Linux

[wheat junco]

i think him

isn't Kevin Mitnick the promoter who sold books n videos about cures that aren't drugs, and how the whole pharmaceutical industry and government is a big scam?

[low yacht]

😹 no

Father of hacking

[wheat junco]

ohh

[low yacht]

YouTube him

[wheat junco]

wrong kevin

[low yacht]

You'll know

[wheat junco]

some 1970s guy?

[low yacht]

his book is ghost in the wire

[low yacht]

Kinda yes

He's no more now

[wheat junco]

oh .

[low yacht]

But his hacks are still alive

[wheat junco]

RIP

[low yacht]

Pro with hacking and tech

He was even banned to make phone calls

[wheat junco]

yeah there's some really smart people here in this server too

[low yacht]

A back hat hacker turned into white hat

[wheat junco]

lol.. let me guess, the Father of phone phreaking?

[low yacht]

No

American court thought he can start cyber war in the world with a call

[wheat junco]

ah

[wheat junco]

how's your download coming @low yacht ? should be almost there.

[low yacht]

7 mins left

[wheat junco]

😎

[low yacht]

done @wheat junco

[wheat junco]

neat. did u copy it?

the first time it boots (and it takes 3+ minutes off USB) u pick Try Ubuntu

u can also do checksum from page 2 ventoy

as u once did

or do it when u get rested

[low yacht]

Ventoy page isn't coming

We are only able to reach bios

Pressing F 10

[wheat junco]

press

f8

sorry

F9

F9 on HP's is boot menu

F10 is BIOS

[low yacht]

VT loading

[wheat junco]

👏

[low yacht]

It's just loading............

[wheat junco]

😛

dw

[wheat junco]

.

[low yacht]

Rip life

[wheat junco]

lol

does the usb drive have a flashing activity light?

[low yacht]

No!

That's another pain

Lets reboot

[wheat junco]

it would go faster with ur Ventoy'd USB SSD that u used l time

if u still kept it that way from the time u did antix

[low yacht]

I know. That has data... I'll do that in the morning..

Why this pendrive isn't working

What's the cause behind

It works

But when it comes to boot it doesn't

[wheat junco]

is it the same one that gave trouble booting antix live?

[low yacht]

Yeah

[wheat junco]

even if it has data, plus 6 binary Gigs of space, and u didnt reformat it or clear ventoy off it, it would still boot

[low yacht]

You're trying to say that we can use that SSD without wiping the data?

Oh i got you

[wheat junco]

as long as u did NOT REMOVE ventoy from last time

[low yacht]

I have removed

[wheat junco]

and has enough FREE space

[low yacht]

Cleaned it using ventoy

Then pasted iso

[wheat junco]

ohh u used the "clear Ventoy" thing?

[low yacht]

Yeah

Fresh process

[wheat junco]

in that case, the ssd just a storage block for now

u would have to transfer any data on it to somewhere else if u want to re-add Ventoy and use for live-booting Ubuntu

well have a goodnight, friend.

[low yacht]

Data isn't imp

I don't understand one thing why this pen drive is not working

It works well to transfer data

It comes to this boot thing it doesn't work

In the beginning it was working last time you remember. But after that it stopped working

[wheat junco]

might not like big files. some of the flash cells worn out. idk

I'd recommend to buy a SONY one, or a SANDISK Voyageur one with a flashing activity light.. definitely a light.

[wheat junco]

Those four shots are of modern Ubuntu Unity 24

I give it a high grade.

third picture is the fullscreen app launcher, much like gnome's

where you can just type to search. (similar like how Mint's start menu search works)

[wheat junco]

This one's also fun, and possibly one you may like (based on Ubuntu) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD8okn8bck0

[low yacht]

Seems like you're impressed 😹

[low yacht]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 someone really copied win7

@wheat junco by the way is not there any way to fix my pendrive. Isn't there any article or video showing the same which we are facing

Like i literally wanna know the exact reason why it is working but while booting linux its not working

[wheat junco]

yep yep.. and did a good job at it, IMO

[wheat junco]

u can see later once u install Linux.. i know a tester app. just use the SSD like last time.

or go on ur old computer, load up Antix, and get the F3 application (Fight Flash Fraud) it will conduct an audit of the pen drive

idk if it's in repos or via website via a .deb package.. either way

[low yacht]

does it work on windows ?

two of my pen drive has the same issue and one of them is new used it for first time

[wheat junco]

no idea if it's there, but it's the best

[low yacht]

@wheat junco i hope pendrive has no issues with UEFI or bios thing

[wheat junco]

just test it first as I said

have yet to determine if ur HP computer has uefi or not

[low yacht]

software is not for windows

[wheat junco]

.

[wheat junco]

.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco working now

I got the issue as well

[wheat junco]

ah what's up?

[low yacht]

The way I used ventoy was wrong

I was trying to copy the ISO file in pendrive after the ventoy format

I had to use ventoy Vink

To create shortcut

That step was missing

[wheat junco]

that is indeed a different way to do it. of course vlinks depend on another drive storing the ISO.

but the general and easy way is to store the iso on the blank ventoy partition of the usb disk

im glad u figured out vlinking on your own though. I've played with it myself

[low yacht]

I'm crying 😂

We thought pendrive isn't working

Dumb

[wheat junco]

it probably has fake sectors.

so technically, it might be at fault.

have u installed Ubuntu yet?

or at least booted the live desktop for it?

[low yacht]

Someone said I just need 25gb storage for Ubuntu

[low yacht]

Creating partition in windows

[wheat junco]

I think Mint needs only 10 GB for the base install

practical use would say u want more space than the base install, for applications n stuff.. so 25 GB does sound in the realm of sanity.

[low yacht]

What should I do now

[wheat junco]

Ubuntu uses Snap packages for some major apps, so they likely use up a lot of space

so i'd give it overall about 80 Gigs

if u have the space to spare it

but even 50 would do like u did on old pc

[low yacht]

https://discord.com/channels/859379321109741568/1249915709908193391

Check here

check it

[wheat junco]

u should boot live.. pick "try ubuntu" and check it out.

[low yacht]

how are they guiding

@wheat junco what are your views of what they're saying

[wheat junco]

ya i just read it..

seems decent advice. I personally would have guided u to just boot up 'buntu live, and let the installer do an "alongside" windows install, and it should , i believe, give u a space slider there.

but if u made space, that's alright

but test the distro before installing it.

[low yacht]

But the question is how much storage should I give ?

[wheat junco]

in live mode. test the Wifi, the sound, the microphone, the web browser performance

[wheat junco]

i gave u my answer

[low yacht]

Sure! And what about "c"

As they're saying it would be faster

@wheat junco does that make sense?

[wheat junco]

how many drives exist on ur HP laptop?

[low yacht]

Just one

😹

[wheat junco]

yeah so that's the only one to shrink

[low yacht]

No... I meant physically one

And when it comes to partition

There are two

[wheat junco]

and what are they called?

[low yacht]

C and e

[wheat junco]

you'd have to show me a picture of that in Disk Management

or the Disks app if ur in 'buntu now

[wheat junco]

ahh nice

what's in the D: drive when u look in it from File Manager?

[low yacht]

Blank

Nothing is there

[wheat junco]

kool. obviously that would be the proper place to install Linux onto. but do me a favour, hover mouse over the left where it says "Disk0", then right click, pick Properties, then the volumes tab... and show

[wheat junco]

ok.. it's MBR. just checking

[low yacht]

@wheat junco check

[wheat junco]

lol u shrunk it again?

I thought u were just gonna give it the 128 Gigs

anyway, that's fine.

70's decent

[low yacht]

128 was already there

so yeah

btw do i need to take any action on unallocated space?

[wheat junco]

nope

[low yacht]

or just boot to linux

[wheat junco]

.

[low yacht]

Using it in normal mode

Ubuntu is on the way.....

[wheat junco]

where did u keep the source iso? the one u vlink to? im guessing on the Windows drive?

[low yacht]

Check on that group

[wheat junco]

gah.. i cant be bothered to scroll up

not when this delicious oatmeal is in front of me

[low yacht]

#1249915709908193391 message

[low yacht]

😹

[wheat junco]

😼

btw did u have a look at the 4 pictures I sent u earlier of Ubuntu Unity?

[low yacht]

Checked live

[low yacht]

Yeah

[wheat junco]

what did u think?

I actually did a test drive of it on distrosea website. was neat indeed

[wheat junco]

u mean ur at this message ^?

[low yacht]

Don't wanna download it all again

[wheat junco]

hit Try

[low yacht]

No! I have checked... Now moving forward

[wheat junco]

did it feel fast?

[low yacht]

Yeah

[wheat junco]

oh ok

and net connected?

[low yacht]

Even cursor is faster 🤣🤣🤣

[low yacht]

No
I didn't permit

Should I connect?

[wheat junco]

you may want to have it connect to the internet so the installer can add the 'extra multimedia codecs'

[low yacht]

Connected

[wheat junco]

ok first get familiar with the partitions

run the Disks app

you will want to identify the 70 GB partition in the titlebar by its device name

or in the device details text below the rectangle thing

[low yacht]

@wheat junco check

[wheat junco]

erm, that's gparted, but ok

ok . it doesnt have a filesystem yet.. u could let the installer do it

device sda

just pick "something else" in the installer

[wheat junco]

yeah interactive

interesting how u are sending the screenshots so clear.

[wheat junco]

go with extended

it's a fuller version

[wheat junco]

i'd just check the one for multimedia

media formats

[wheat junco]

yeah..

where in the world did it say where to install on? i hope it's this next page

[wheat junco]

manual installation

[wheat junco]

the first one would have been good if u hadn't made space (designated partitions) ahead of time.

click in free space

hit the plus

add new partition/volume,. make it ext4

[wheat junco]

.

[low yacht]

new

[wheat junco]

/

root of filesystem of linux is what that means

[wheat junco]

good.. hit Next

notice in the above picture, it automatically chose to add the bootloader to the sda WD drive

in that bottom drop-down box.. which is correct.

[wheat junco]

I agree. you read it yourself and agree?

[low yacht]

ubuntu looks powerful

[wheat junco]

alrighty then.

should be done installing in 20 minutes on a hard drive

[low yacht]

it's one of the most popular distro i don't know why

[wheat junco]

lol what do u mean u dont know why?

it started making GNU/Linux easy for common people since 2004. one of the first to do that.

[low yacht]

i mean there are many distros

reason of choosing ubuntu that layout

[wheat junco]

heh.

[low yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/gayloranti-stan-twitter-lana-del-rey-dance-off-to-the-races-gif-2484601884353636533

[wheat junco]

😄

so, on a 2nd gen i3 CPU, and 6 Gigs RAM, at 2.1 GHz, this system should run it decently.. better with an SSD, but still should be fine on hard drive

[low yacht]

yeah

i have a question why they said "C" would be best to install it

[wheat junco]

I think I understood what he meant by short-stroking

so the drive head reads closer to the center of the disk

saves a few milliseconds than swinging the arm out to the outer edges.

I think you'll be fine as is.

how's the colour and viewing angle on this newer computer?

@low yacht

[wheat junco]

Should be done installing.

[low yacht]

color and all everything is catchy

better than other distros

i love the UI

@wheat junco we will have to setup that grub menu option because it directly started ubuntu without asking for a choice

i don't know why this blue selected area coming to the screen without any reason and i'm unable to remove it

[wheat junco]

window snap

stop dragging it unless u want to tile it on upper half

[wheat junco]

nice. Me, I liked this UI: #1214082130737631262 message

I think the reason it didn't set up GRUB right is cuz u vlink'd the ISO off the Windows partition and that kind of blocks it from seeing its own other files not part of the ISO during installation. You will need to copy the iso to a working good usb drive, and run Boot Repair to detect Windows and fix GRUB menu.

use F3 app now on Ubuntu to thoroughly test your flash drives, it's non-destructive, pretty sure

ttyl.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco how about this ?

[wheat junco]

skip

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[fair juniper]

up to you, it helps them know how people are using ubuntu

[low yacht]

gotcha! i am having trouble with something. when i try to copy text i double click and move the cursor but iit doesn't move automatically like windows what's the reason

[fair juniper]

sorry i dont get what you mean. you copy text by double clicking?

in ubuntu, instead of double clicking, try holding left click and moving to drag the selected text where you want it to go

[low yacht]

i know but it does't drag the cursor down automatically

i use laptop and you know mouse pad area is limited so you just select and drag till a point and hold it so that it can move downwards and select all the text automatically

i hope you got me now!? @fair juniper

[fair juniper]

so you mean you bring the cursor to the bottom of the screen and it moves down while selecting?

[low yacht]

yeah

[fair juniper]

that happens on my computer. so when you bring the cursor to the bottom of the screen it doesnt scroll down?

you could also select using shift + arrow keys

[wheat junco]

ie: drag from end of line to start of line, then hold Shift while tapping or holding down the UP arrow

ie 2: drag from START of line to END of line, then hold Shift while tapping or holding down the DOWN arrow

then Ctrl+x to cut out selected text (or Ctrl+c to copy it) ; Ctrl+v to paste it to new location

In offce editor apps, triple click selects a full line. Dragging that selected line or paragraph should autoscroll the page up or down depending on your movement. Release left-button to drop text in new location.

[low yacht]

Exactly that's what I am trying to say

[low yacht]

I know using keys but I was just curious

Since I'm happy to windows things

Windows 11 is mind blowing with features that helps you to ease your work

[wheat junco]

yep. yeah it should work the drag-scroll thing.

did u know u can add Edge browser easily to Linux?

[low yacht]

Yeah i know but edge is something i don't prefer 🤣

Chrome is damn powerful

And supports most of the extensions

Which is the best thing

[wheat junco]

I found Edge to play Youtube smoother than Chrome by a little bit, and by a lot over newest Firefox. (on my old CPU anyway)

[low yacht]

Oh! I never liked any browser except Chrome

[wheat junco]

that's alright. on your cpu it should run pretty smooth anyway

Chrome, I mean.

[low yacht]

One more thing when i was using win7 display was a bit smaller

In linux it's bigger

[wheat junco]

does it fill the whole screen?

[low yacht]

I tried to explore display settings but didn't get something meaningful

[low yacht]

Yeah... Look at the screenshots

[wheat junco]

ok so do you want the icons and text to appear larger or smaller on the display?

[low yacht]

Smaller

It's already large

[wheat junco]

then you increase the resolution

so more dots take up the same space.

each icon then will appear bit smaller everywhere there are icons

[low yacht]

Task bar seems big

Seems like granny pc😹

[wheat junco]

that's easily configured from the dash adjust

i think the sidebar is called the dash

u can vary its width, and icon size

even its length i think (top to bottom)

[wheat junco]

this is up to you anyway. it's fine either way

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

i think there is nothing to change

[wheat junco]

well, im no expert on this version but I'd have a look in 'Ubuntu Desktop' there in settings

or right click somewhere on the Dash.. it should offer a way to easily tweak sizes

[low yacht]

what is fractional scaling

[wheat junco]

that make things bigger

by some percentage

example : [1366(1.25)] x [768 (1.25)]

you may also want to explore some help documents if included in the distro about using Ubuntu. or check out askubuntu.com

[low yacht]

i'lll turn it off

@wheat junco have a look now

[wheat junco]

1 sec

ya thats it

adjust as u wish

[low yacht]

look at the upper task bar

can't we remove that?

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

I'm not sure in GNOME

[low yacht]

it looks damn good now

[wheat junco]

your workspace switcher slider is on the top left

[low yacht]

loving it for the first time

[wheat junco]

so u may need it if u have a lot of open tasks, and put stuff on other workspace

[wheat junco]

I told u months ago, with the proper machine you can have a fantasy in linux

Tip: you can right click pinned icons on the dock/dash and choose 'remove' or 'unpin' if u dont use certain apps there very much.

and Apps that you do use a lot, u run them from the start button (now on your bottom right) and once they open, u r-click and pin them to dock

[low yacht]

is it possible to play with the size of it

[low yacht]

indeed! ubuntu is love

[wheat junco]

the desktop switcher , no

gnome is a bit restrictive to keep things kind of uniform and professional. (like some other OS u pay for)

[low yacht]

oh i see

it gives the vibe of mac os

[wheat junco]

does it play a startup sound when it reaches the desktop on a reboot?

[low yacht]

doocker

and desktop slider

[low yacht]

didn't notice... i guess no

[wheat junco]

yeah u can shorten the bottom dock as u probably saw in the Ubuntu desktop settings (unchecking fill full width)

[wheat junco]

check ur sound control panel for proper volumes on both main sound plus system sounds.

or type 'volume' or 'sound' in the app launcher

[low yacht]

have a look now

[wheat junco]

I dont see a difference

😋

other than we're different. I hate dark themes.

you may like this wallpaper

[low yacht]

look at the docker

[low yacht]

norway

i made the docker invisible while using chrome and other apps

have you ever used mac os ?

[wheat junco]

nope

[wheat junco]

this one is from Mac a few years back

[low yacht]

i see

btw i am having issues with night light

it is automatically changing

when i go to the page it works well but when i switch to other apps it changes the color to bright

@wheat junco where to download fight flash fraud

[wheat junco]

see if it's in the Ubuntu Software shop

look for F3 or by the long name

[fair juniper]

sudo apt install f3 should do it

[wheat junco]

do a sudo apt update first since the install is so new, it may not have the package list yet

[low yacht]

@wheat junco all set ?

[wheat junco]

yeah now do apt search f3

[low yacht]

@wheat junco what's next

[wheat junco]

well plug in ur usb stick. then type lsblk to list block storage devices in terminal

it might show as /dev/sdb

but confirm by the stated size

and its mountpoint should show in /media/something-something

{check commands with f3 --help or man f3}

i think its something like
f3 /dev/sdb or f3probe /dev/sdb (if stick is sdb)

then give it a good while to run tests

--AFK

[wheat junco]

oh u didnt install it yet. do as they said #1214082130737631262 message

[wheat junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnezKfCTO7E

[wheat junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMgEHy1A9QA

this one is a bit faster and is non-destructive to existing data.

it only runs on Windows, so either put superGrub2 ISO on you bootable SSD to launch Windows from it, if ur current grub menu is broken... or use Validrive on ur old Windows laptop

[wheat junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1efCanjmOKg

^ this one shows the proper, modern way to install and use F3 on Linux. worthy to see;

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

getting error! followed the last video suggested by you

[wheat junco]

it's alright, you just made one typo. put the command in like it says to in the second-last line.

with sudo

2:14 in video.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

try same on your other drive too

This probe command does a random sampling scattered across most parts of the drive. To do a full test, where it writes every sector, and read it back for verification is what the very first video I sent mentions. The one from Spatry's Cup of Linux. That test may take some hours, so best done when you don't need to use the computer. Like few hours before bed.

note: the full test may clear the drive so careful if any important files

[low yacht]

will do it. I don't have that one in the hands at the moment

this one is bigger 32gb

[wheat junco]

so far it looks good. but to be sure no wrecked flash sectors, the full test is the most thorough.

[low yacht]

sudo nano /etc/default/grub

In nano, change GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

Save to that file, do sudo update-grub

@wheat junco are you familiar with this?

[wheat junco]

vaguely.

it does make sense.

if that doesn't work, boot live and do the Boot Repair app so u get Windows to show. (it does a full probe)

[wheat junco]

u see the line saying grub timeout?

change its value to 5

then go down some lines to the end of first green paragraph, and delete the # sign

in front of GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

then ctrl-O to save, press enter on the existing filename it suggest, and then Ctrl-x to leave nano. (note the shortcuts at bottom of screen)

[low yacht]

means it will give me 5 seconds to choose?

[wheat junco]

ya

then do the update grub command above.

[wheat junco]

nope. leave it to false. the number-sign was already negating that.

negating false means do it

[low yacht]

oh

[wheat junco]

ie:

[wheat junco]

ok give it a reboot.

u can do sudo reboot from the terminal

[low yacht]

it didn't workout

[wheat junco]

did u save the file?

[low yacht]

yeah

where can i see?

[wheat junco]

double check.

just open file manager, go to etc folder, then grub folder, and double click the file in question

[wheat junco]

default folder, file name is grub

[wheat junco]

or you can view in terminal with: more /etc/default/grub

[low yacht]

so etc folder is there

[wheat junco]

nope. you're very rookie.

click other locations on left

find Filesystem

that is the root directory

then find the etc folder in that

then find the default folder inside of etc folder

then find the file simply named 'grub'

[wheat junco]

or do this.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

well it seems to have kept the changes. .

you can have a look at the file it says at the top of that on line 2

ctrl C to cancel out of more utility

then more /boot/grub/grub.cfg

it might be a long file, but u can page-by-page through it to see its details

[wheat junco]

I think one thing was omitted earlier in the previous file. The line about "grub_timeout_style=hidden"

i think that should be changed to either true or shown

let's see what the Mint help docs say

[wheat junco]

probably needs sudo infront 😛

https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/grub.html

should say =menu instead of =hidden

[low yacht]

how to make changes

follow the same command?

[wheat junco]

yep.

[wheat junco]

If you only run Linux Mint and there are no other operating systems on the computer, the menu is hidden by default.

To make it visible, as root, add these lines to /etc/default/grub.d/90_custom.cfg:
That's what Mint says. But try it the previous way on simply the grub file instead of the 90_custom.cfg file

put double quotes around the timeout value, and the "menu" value as shown in the Mint docs.

[wheat junco]

and the timeout value, please

[low yacht]

@wheat junco anything else to change?

done

[wheat junco]

save as u did before

and then do the update command as before

Hit the up arrow to repeat old commands.

[low yacht]

done

didn't work

[wheat junco]

did u do upgrade-grub command before reboot?

[low yacht]

was sudo update-grub

[wheat junco]

ok yes

[low yacht]

damn

missed

[wheat junco]

lol that's why II wrote it

[low yacht]

now it will work i guess

[wheat junco]

it should.

as long as the system is booting UEFI style

give it a shot

[wheat junco]

oh ok. u got it in the third picture

see if it boots up Win 7

[low yacht]

it does

which ubuntu to choose ?

there are 3

[wheat junco]

now do a restart, and don't touch anything in the grub menu.. let the 12 second timer countdown

generally it will launch the first thing highlighted automatically if u dont touch anything

if u get sick of waiting for the timer next time, u can just press enter on the first Ubuntu thing highlighted.

[low yacht]

it automatically starts what's selected

[wheat junco]

I want you to check something in Ubuntu once you're back

[low yacht]

sure tell me

[wheat junco]

ready?

[low yacht]

yup

[wheat junco]

ctrl-alt-T for terminal

ls /sys/firmware/efi

tell the result

[wheat junco]

ok that's a confirmation. You're booted via legacy BIOS and not UEFI.. just checking.

that pc probably has older bios from that era.

all good.

Did you have some fun learning a few terminal commands?

if u were lost the whole way, I can briefly explain what you were doing

[low yacht]

tomorrow ! i have to sleep for now.... even have some quesions i'll ask tomorrow

it's really good to learn it all

i'm up for that

[wheat junco]

just fyi
nano = a built-in terminal text editor coming with most distros

sudo = superuser do

ls = list files and folders in the current folder/directory

more = a built-in text viewer (just view) that lets you see long text files one page at a time.

Ctrl-C = in a terminal, CANCELS whatever is going on, usually

Ctrl-shift-x, Ctrl-shift-c, Ctrl-shift-v = cut, copy or paste in a terminal.

cd / = change current working location to the root of the filesystem (/)

cd ~ = change current folder to home folder (tilde symbol)

[low yacht]

I want it all as notes. Well constructed... Specially grub thing so that in future i can work on my own

[wheat junco]

pwd = print working directory (show where you currently are)

(usually the prompt shows what your current folder is, but just incase you need it spelled out in long form; pwd )

[wheat junco]

@low yacht hello

[low yacht]

@wheat junco hey! sorry for being late here actually i wasn't feeling well today

btw i was asking that is there any way to save the settings we made on the machine? so that we can save it all

whenever we install it again in future in diff laptop

and is there any dedicated page about grub settings? which can lead me for next time without anyone's help

[wheat junco]

hmm not super sure but probably creating a Timeshift snapshot, and having that snapshot save to an external drive

[wheat junco]

probably. u just had the grub issue cuz of the vlink hiding the rest of Windows

if u had put the vlink'd iso on that empty middle partition OR installed ubuntu with the ISO on flash stick, that wouldnt have happened

[wheat junco]

there's this

[low yacht]

i understand! could you please send me a proper way to ventoy a usb stick?

[wheat junco]

first 26 lines is all u typically need.

(counting blank lines)

[low yacht]

got you! where did you get these steps?

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

a bit from the website.. i reworded it myself though.

like, all of it.

[low yacht]

you should start teaching linux!

it's 100% but not working. When i click on that mover it works but just after 4-5 seconds it turns back to normal light. The twist is that mover stays 100% but still doesn't work.

[wheat junco]

probably cuz of the hours

lol.

or put to Automatic

if u want it weird reddish ALL the time, then set the Schedule to always.

then adjust the colour temperature.

[low yacht]

there is no option for ways but yeah i have adjusted time now! my time calculation was bad. it works well during the day and i never realised it's becuase of time

[low yacht]

that's not weird.. hahaha it saves from blue light

[wheat junco]

idk just play with the settings.

if u put it to manual, and it is during the night hours of your manual schedule currently, then it will maybe change in real time and stay that way.. if it is outside the scheduled hours, it will give a sample of the slider setting then revert

[low yacht]

it has worked now! that's what i said....

i have noted down all the commands you explained

[wheat junco]

kool

there's a lot of notes in a thread in main.

https://discord.com/channels/628978428019736619/1050504228029874206

there's even a little cheatsheet card as a picture that shows commands similar to the DOS-based ones that Windows still uses in its command-prompt

[low yacht]

encyclopedia of linux ? 😹

[wheat junco]

a brief encyclopedia ya 😛

[low yacht]

suspend and power off

[wheat junco]

what about it?

[low yacht]

explain plz

[wheat junco]

first one is sleep mode.

last is what it says

[wheat junco]

#1250331126212591696 message

check it

[low yacht]

antix 🤣

[wheat junco]

nope; MX Linux

[low yacht]

UI is similar to antix

now antix is my nightmare

do you know shell and bash scripting ?

[wheat junco]

just a very tiny bit

kilea here knows tons

if he or she is ever online anymore

@low yacht hello

wanna see some other samples of distros I've tried?

[low yacht]

yes

[wheat junco]

KDE Neon

Q4OS with KDE Plasma:

Chalet OS (xfce):

Linux Lite (xfce) with Chicago 95 theme pack:

Ubuntu Budgie:

Q4OS (KDE Plasma) again

Linux Mint (KDE):

[low yacht]

this looks so good

[wheat junco]

lol. Out of all of them, I cared for that one the least.

My fave distro from those shown was Chalet OS. The theme changer that came with it was specially crafted to run a script to change all the colours on every aspect of the desktop, even could change the titlebars too to either Win7 style, or Win8 style, with one simple click on the chooser.

Although KDE Plasma can sort of do that too somewhat when choosing "Global Theme"

[wheat junco]

Hello @low yacht

[low yacht]

don't you know shell and bash scripting ?

[wheat junco]

like I said last time, very very basic stuff.

I don't concern myself with it, because I like an Operating system that handles everything easily and neatly. I have no need for it.

[low yacht]

oh i forgot

@wheat junco btw i need a net speed meter!

[wheat junco]

idk what gnome offers for that

check online for gnome extensions

otherwise get conky, and an appropriate conky script that does it. Note: this only shows up on the desktop.

[low yacht]

i will check it

@wheat junco i have a rar file i have to unzip it

[wheat junco]

'buntu should have an archive manager program. it should be able to handle rar files

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

@wheat junco how can i download torrent files in linux

[wheat junco]

Transmission

btw, what's that rar file? be careful with random programs

[low yacht]

course

[low yacht]

what does that mean

[wheat junco]

the same program you used that time in Mint, remember?

to get AntiX via torrent.

for the rar file, I'd probably just get WinRAR on Windows, to extract the contents, safely. You should likely keep a antivirus running on old Windows.

[low yacht]

i don't use windows anymore

its just there for some softwares

[low yacht]

not precisely

[wheat junco]

well, it's an encrypted RAR file, from what I read in the error message. So you'll need a) the password b) the latest WinRAR on Windows

[low yacht]

i already have password

[wheat junco]

torrents give u a tor file, which is essentially like a business card.. u save it, then use transmission to open that business card, and it will download the torrent data.

[low yacht]

isn't that rar file gonna work on linux?

[wheat junco]

yeah before you even get that, check the app launcher. just type "torrent" , 'buntu may already have a torrenting app

[wheat junco]

once you extract the contents, then yes probably

[low yacht]

haha! i know but the question is how to extract in linux?

[wheat junco]

rar files on linux, especially password encrypted ones have limited success with linux tools

u could try to install librar, a helper file that might help the archive manager, but it's a long shot

[low yacht]

damn

the good thing is linux is you can download softwares like phone

app store

[wheat junco]

yep. plus anything that doesn't show up right in the Software Center, you can try a search in Synaptic package Manager (that would have to be explicitly installed in Ubuntu these days)

you could try installing both the librar library.. then try with Archive Manager by opening it first, then navigating to the rar file.

secondly, you can add a different archive program called Ark. It may be better possibly.

[devout mortar]

tips: use testdisk to recover data

[devout mortar]

every desktop has it's own tool. plasma has ark

there's peazip too

[wheat junco]

hi @low yacht how are you?

[wheat junco]

#1253935775037263882 message

[slate otter]

how do you adjust the blur on the panel to look so similar to windows 7 aero?

[wheat junco]

ask Dakila. it's prob the "Blur My Shell" extension.

[slate otter]

pretty sure that extension is only for GNOME

[wheat junco]

oh this

it's the Expose Air Plasma theme

[wheat junco]

^

[slate otter]

alright thanks

[low yacht]

sorry i wasn't active here

doing good ... trying to make things productive

[wheat junco]

hello

[low yacht]

how's your life treating you

[wheat junco]

i sent u a link above for someone else here in the ricing channel with ur same OS

[wheat junco]

peaceful and decent ty 🙂

[low yacht]

checking

checked

what did he do

[wheat junco]

oh just the styling.. not a huge deal

that terminal display thing is an info program called neofetch. idk if u have it installed out-of-the-box

u can test it by typing neofetch in the terminal.

[warm palm]

longest thread on this server?

[wheat junco]

linux is an adventure

I think we moved from and through Windows 7 reinstall, then LMDE 6, to LM 20.3 to AntiX to Ubuntu 24.04.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco hey i got a laptop to fix

[wheat junco]

lol and?

I had too little sleep. I just want to chill and chat

[low yacht]

let me show

https://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-v15-amd-ryzen-3-quad-core-7320u-8-gb-ssd-512-gb-ssd-windows-11-home-g4-amn-1-thin-light-laptop/p/itm5819401743e27?pid=COMGPYKZAWY8UX6C&lid=LSTCOMGPYKZAWY8UX6CWQ8QUL&marketplace=FLIPKART&q=lenovo+v15&store=6bo%2Fb5g&spotlightTagId=FkPickId_6bo%2Fb5g&srno=s_1_2&otracker=search&otracker1=search&fm=organic&iid=5719baa8-a0b4-4412-b0b6-075922cd3c19.COMGPYKZAWY8UX6C.SEARCH&ppt=None&ppn=None&ssid=4n8rennx680000001719250620284&qH=08ca07f2ab328031

@wheat junco

i am trying to setup a new laptop

[wheat junco]

u buying that one?

[low yacht]

friend bought and she said setup

it

[wheat junco]

what's to set up"

[low yacht]

there is only c partition

[wheat junco]

so?

[low yacht]

i want to divide it

[wheat junco]

for?

[low yacht]

to keep data

[wheat junco]

that's it?

[low yacht]

yeah

[wheat junco]

Disk management. u know it

u got this

[low yacht]

yeah but i heard someone saying we shouldn't divide c

[wheat junco]

what reason?

other than harder to use cuz all the User /My Documents are expected to be on C:

[wheat junco]

NXT

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-u-next-ariana-grande-mua-flying-kiss-gif-12827711

[low yacht]

why it shows lock on disk ? @wheat junco

[wheat junco]

whole drive is Bitlocker encrypted.

[warm palm]

yeah because there's no point in doing that, only thing it does is make managing your files more difficult

what if you run out of space on partition c? and you don't want to use partition d? and vice versa?

[low yacht]

i uderstand. anyhoo, i don't even keep much data there

[low yacht]

gotcha

@wheat junco do i need to install drivers?

[wheat junco]

hi radhika

prob not if everything works

touchpad tap-to-click works?

and scroll

test camera

[low yacht]

what about graphic drivers?

[wheat junco]

test mic (either with Sound Recorder or onlinemictest

[wheat junco]

search dxdiag in search box and run it. it will show what's up for multimedia

[low yacht]

@wheat junco see

https://github.com/zhongyang219/TrafficMonitor @wheat junco i'm using this speed meter and getting error

[wheat junco]

hang on

[wheat junco]

what do you see here?

[low yacht]

no problems ?

as a note?

[wheat junco]

yeah video drivers look good

idk much about Traffic Monitor.. OpenHardware Monitor should work though

research if Win11 comes with a way to show the net traffic in the systray

i know it does in Task Manager, but it's possible a native gadget exists already

[low yacht]

in win11 don't we need to download drivers separately like win 7 ?

[wheat junco]

nah. Windows 7 barely needed to do much either. just a card reader, and better touchpad driver I had to get. That's it.

[low yacht]

that's so good

[wheat junco]

u already saw DXDIAG

[low yacht]

yeah

how's the laptop specs btw

[wheat junco]

good

gonna bed. bye

[golden grove]

oops sorry for the ping

[wheat junco]

👋

[low yacht]

what's going on

[wheat junco]

Just wanted to say hello. Been a long adventure thus far all this computer stuff, with you, and with others.

[terse hill]

I am still offering Stunner to send more RAM, but he won't take it.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco do you know .eml file ?

[wheat junco]

hi radhika

I do know it. It goes way back in history to Windows 95, where such file was considered a locally-saved email file from the included client app called "Internet Mail and News", later updated to 'Outlook Express'. It is still a likely current day file format for a saved email from a Microsoft program.

[low yacht]

i am trying to create an EML file using linux notepad

and i want to attach a PDF file with that

how it would be possible ?

[wheat junco]

no you would need Outlook for that, or possibly Mozilla Thunderbird

[low yacht]

i have already created

the only trouble is pdf attachment

[wheat junco]

text editors only save text files

[low yacht]

https://emlviewer.net/how-to-create-a-eml-email-file-using-only-a-text-editor/

check

[wheat junco]

are you trying to send a real email or just doing some assignment?

[low yacht]

assignment

[wheat junco]

Keep in mind that more complex emails with attachments or advanced formatting may require additional MIME elements.

says there. idk how

i would save the file, right-click it, open-with Thunderbird, then attach the pdf there

[low yacht]

but i want to use specific deatils

like email from and to should be what i want

is that possible to create an EML like that ?

[wheat junco]

ya ofc

it says all about it in the link u sent

[low yacht]

but how would be possible PDF attachment

[low yacht]

let's try

@wheat junco unable to add files in thunderbird

[wheat junco]

did u set up your POP3 or IMAP details/account from your email provider in Thunderbird?

POP3 is simple old standard to receive emails, and SMTP to send them

[low yacht]

how to do that

pop3

[wheat junco]

I think the newer IMAP handles both

first you'd open thunderbird, if no account was set up, then it will prompt you through it

you'd need the info from your ISP, who probably gives you one or several email accounts for your internet account with them

[wheat junco]

I don't use that stuff for almost 20 years so

[low yacht]

i want such details in eml

[wheat junco]

well be consistent with your spelling, spaces, and don't put new empty lines where they don't belong.

[devout mortar]

hmm... EML.. haven't heard of that in ages. thunderbird may allow it as a local file

[low yacht]

i'm unable to do that

[low yacht]

it didn't work the way i expeced

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

I'm unable to use internet on my laptop

[wheat junco]

hello Radhika

try this command and see what it results with: rfkill --output-all

[low yacht]

I tried using keyboard short key and it worked

Seems like i pressed something

While cleaning the keyboard

😹😹😹

But thanks for your prompt response

[wheat junco]

this is why the rfkill --output-all command is so useful. It allows to see if there is a hard block which would indicate a switch to disable WiFi is activated.

[wheat junco]

@low yacht gone already?