os crash during mint installation! how can I recover my data?

[low yacht]

@wheat junco is it working for you?

[wheat junco]

not working. i check with this https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/antixlinux.com

[wheat junco]

@low yacht you asked for a website that shows it all.. Google is your friend. https://www.ventoy.net/en/doc_checksum.html look at step 5 there, the screenshot. Which test did you do for your ISO?

Step 1 paragraph there also tells good life information.

[low yacht]

I've already checked 😹 but thanks. I might sound dumb to you but I'm willing to gather knowledge as much as i can

[wheat junco]

kool. which test did u do in step 5 of the link i posted? it should be always sha256

[low yacht]

Sha256

[wheat junco]

and it should match this underlined thing. but i do have a feeling it's bad since the antix installer also failed the media check

[low yacht]

.md5

[wheat junco]

no

oh

[low yacht]

I did both

But I'll keep in mind more

*now

[wheat junco]

site's still down

[low yacht]

The website is still down

Yeah 😹 what's next now

[wheat junco]

u could boot up Mint, launch Transmission, the let it get the ISO via torrent

see https://fosstorrents.com/distributions/antix/?ref=rss

go to the 64 bit, FULL iso, click the torrent button; it should prompt to save/open this with Transmission

[low yacht]

on the waY!

@wheat junco downloaded the file

[wheat junco]

u got the wrong one , i said the FULL iso in capital letters, not the base one

it showing base in the pic above

[low yacht]

i don't know why it's downloading base one only when i click full

@wheat junco you should check it

[wheat junco]

oh did the whole thing finish?

[low yacht]

in the middle

should i download or not

i stopped it when you said it's base one

[wheat junco]

check the "bad" iso's size on ur Ventoy drive

i think the full one is around 1.7 GB

[low yacht]

1.9 gb is for bad one

[wheat junco]

k

[low yacht]

why it's a mess

UI of win 7, 10 & 11 is something feels very attractive to me. Seems like i'll be always in love with the irrespective of using linux

when you open my computer in linux, it's very boring TBH

comparatively win7 and other versions

anyhoo according to the situation linux is the only life saver

[low yacht]

@wheat junco while downloading it was 1.17 and now it's 1.2 gb

[wheat junco]

alright

still going, right?

[wheat junco]

there's some gorgeous distros out there, like Deepin, or Ubuntu Deepin, or (Feren OS, Kubuntu, KDE Neon)- these are KDE distros

but none of these good for old machine

just gonna feel slow

if u had a minimum 2010, or 2011 or NEW corei5 CPU board, u could rock ANYTHING

[low yacht]

Oh i see! Btw i just run verification in linux on iso... We font need ventoy to check it... We can verify iso right after downloading it

I never knew it gives an option to check

I right clicked on the file > check sha256

a90a6dba4f60ebd1349b20b43336d292ef9ed0b66dc28b51a5bf56c666b53fdf

@wheat junco as i checked share picture by you. It's same for base version

c9689a0ea5c53c08b7d656a09e48e067eb981410baeebe2f5bc9ff64f77c14f4 antiX-23.1_x64-full.iso

eb3beccdd0290bd0bd2a1765f4a90a32f77c54742d5d1bb818a1aaeafcccc1cb antiX-23.1_386-full.iso

a90a6dba4f60ebd1349b20b43336d292ef9ed0b66dc28b51a5bf56c666b53fdf antiX-23.1_x64-base.iso

4ba2ac4db488eb44ae78acadaf71ace77f99f3d01a6ae6deb7323bdc9f53f602 antiX-23.1_386-base.iso

d022f4a0737fffbbffa9850ccf9927e700c168ab01d75e3f5769d96480609637 antiX-23.1_x64-core.iso

207b60be45c650cdbadd56d0f01e30eee83cd4c279494cfb44b43f64acda3c67 antiX-23.1_386-core.iso

05c9e9297bc35a6b0c92a0620468c110214f9bb5af5887fdfd4c12d632aad765 antiX-23.1-net_x64-net.iso

3b7bf706a73b1c97ffb8c45f7f193c5ce83894c28f1c8d95bc59491f404a634f antiX-23.1-net_386-net.iso

[wheat junco]

yeah uh torrent clients have some fancy thing

[low yacht]

what's next?

we downloaded full but it's base version

[wheat junco]

reference.

yeah idk. base version probably sucks

how big was the final file? and did it end in .iso extension?

[low yacht]

website is working but download page is just loading

[low yacht]

after downloading it was 1.2gb

yeah it was iso

[wheat junco]

brb

[low yacht]

sure

[wheat junco]

ok so that site messed up the titles.. click the torrent button on the SECOND one marked 23.1 BASE, and u end up getting the "full"

[low yacht]

downloading full it's 1.87GB

[wheat junco]

yup.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

heya

what are those 2 lines?

[low yacht]

c9689a0ea5c53c08b7d656a09e48e067eb981410baeebe2f5bc9ff64f77c14f4

[wheat junco]

mkay.. looks good

so delete the ventoy one, and copy that new one over.. dont make the computer do any other hard work

and let it rest a full minute after it says it's finished copying

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

deleted previous iso

when i tried to copy - paste

got an error

now system is't detecting USB

re-pluggedin and worked but got same error

[wheat junco]

there shouldn't be two progress bars

only one

[low yacht]

yeah there isn't it's showing previous one

[wheat junco]

reboot to Mint

it's glitching

then make sure only have what's important on ur ventoy drive, like supergrub2, maybe the Mint 20.3, and win 7 iso, and that's it.

and then copy the new antix over

[low yacht]

System isn't detecting usb now

[wheat junco]

u rebooted?

[low yacht]

Yeah

[wheat junco]

move it to another port

[low yacht]

Dome

*done

[wheat junco]

did it load/mount the ventoy drive?

make sure there's enough free space on it

[low yacht]

Ventoy is working

Showing mint iso

I rebooted again

Let's see if it shows usb

@wheat junco it's showing now

[wheat junco]

k

[low yacht]

Got the same error agaib

*again

While copying iso

It's not pasting file more than 35mb

@wheat junco seems like all the mess is going to be with me only 😹

[wheat junco]

weird. old usb maybe

or cheapname one. it had enough

how many big files on the ventoy drive right now?

[low yacht]

Only mint

Nothing else should I format and try?

It's a Kingston data traveller 3.0

[wheat junco]

if u have room on the Windows 7 partition, copy over the Mint iso

[low yacht]

Selected as FAT 32

[wheat junco]

as in Cut from Ventoy, paste to Windows

[wheat junco]

wdym

[low yacht]

Format i mean

[wheat junco]

dont tell me ur pasting the file to the Fat32 partition

[low yacht]

We've been using it as FAT32

Since beginning

[wheat junco]

it's exfat

that what ventoy creates

[low yacht]

I made no changes. Since then

Should i change ? To exfat

[wheat junco]

no it should already BE exFAT.. check the "Disks" app in Mint, your usb style

[low yacht]

It's exfat

[wheat junco]

mhm

[low yacht]

Then why it's showing fat32 when i click on format

[wheat junco]

cuz that's a command not information

anyways, copy the iso

move the Mint one in case for whatever u need it to the Windows space.

then copy over the new antix one

[low yacht]

@wheat junco I'm formating it now

Format as exfat ?

[wheat junco]

why on earth ?

[low yacht]

What do you mean

[wheat junco]

did it still fail to copy over?

[low yacht]

No! Just formatting it incase of any error

[wheat junco]

that wont really do anything

but sure.

dont erase the VentoyEFI partition

wait, what are u formatting exactly?

[low yacht]

I was about to format usb .... But since you siad not gonna change anything i stopped

Trying to copy antix

[wheat junco]

copy it. it shouldnt have issue. if it does,there's a diff way

[low yacht]

Yeah i forgot about that

It's done

[wheat junco]

ok cool

reboot, and start the installer via ventoy/ antix desktop

[low yacht]

Start with normal 1 ?

[wheat junco]

ya

[low yacht]

Boot failed

[wheat junco]

oh wait

does ur usb have an activity light on it?

[low yacht]

Light ? It doesn't show any light

[wheat junco]

oh that's too bad

[low yacht]

😹

[wheat junco]

best to have a usb with an activity light for these things.

always keeps you informed

ok that boot attempt failed.. run the ventoy sum check on the ISO.. u know which one

[low yacht]

b54af40ddd83c639a3ea2652a2d03d4960829cd7cbd4e98917e2195912c3ab70

[wheat junco]

aint right. did u make sure it was the sha256 one?

[low yacht]

@wheat junco what the heck

[wheat junco]

this is the correct one

[low yacht]

😹

[wheat junco]

yeah weird. well maybe that drive's a bit flaky.

can still do it another way

[low yacht]

How

[wheat junco]

u can use that ventoy usb to boot the ISO off another drive

so if u have another usb drive (any kind) copy the new antix ISO to that, then i'll show u

well, make a folder in that other drive nice alphabetical, like "aaa" then put the iso in it

[low yacht]

Finding a new drive is another trouble now

What if i use ssd to run win7

[wheat junco]

dont u have a huge external hard drive with usb adapter?

[low yacht]

In this laptop

It will speed up all those damn slow tabs of google Chrome ? 😹

[low yacht]

I have! Let me get it

[wheat junco]

yeah it's really easy.

hopefully that drive doesnt have issues

[low yacht]

Then i dont need any linux or something right ?

Win7 will be working well

[wheat junco]

that's a different story. if u wanna put Windows 7 on ssd, that's up to u. im trying to help u load/install antix

[low yacht]

All i want is speed

[wheat junco]

ok get the big drive

[low yacht]

If i can get speed with win7 on ssd

[wheat junco]

plug it in.

[low yacht]

I'll never switch to any other os

[wheat junco]

i have windows 7 on mine.. it's not as fast as antix

im triple booting on an ssd

i mean for web-use, it's not as fast.

[low yacht]

Oh

Let's get the drive then

[wheat junco]

plus u'd be more open to viruses or whatever. i would be careful on Windows 7 not to do much online of sensitive stuff

[low yacht]

Dont you feel linux has boring environment

[wheat junco]

not really.

I like Nemo better than Windows Explorer tbh

[low yacht]

Why do you use Linux 😹

[wheat junco]

i switched from years back because of how easy it is to get hijacked/ ransomware on Windows

plus i had another PC with brand new SSD empty, and i didnt want to pay for Windows for it

so security, and fun are the two reasons

[low yacht]

Oh! Security

Btw, I've cleaned my ssd

Downloading ventoy

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

hey.. what are u gonna do?

[low yacht]

You asked me to get a new drive

I have that now

[wheat junco]

yeah u dont need to ventoy it

it's blank totally now?

[low yacht]

Yeah

Blank

[wheat junco]

ok. what format is the filesystem?

[low yacht]

I've formatted with exfat

[wheat junco]

i dont think it really matters anyway

ok so, all u have to do is copy the antix iso to that drive. thats it

and that SSD is connected with a USB bridge adapter cable right?

[low yacht]

Oh! Why we dont have to use ventoy again

[wheat junco]

i was gonna show u a handy feature.

[low yacht]

Done!

It's in ssd drive now

[wheat junco]

answer please

[low yacht]

Yeah

Usb bridge cablr

[wheat junco]

ok is the ventoy flashdrive also plugged in?

[low yacht]

*cable

[low yacht]

Yup

[wheat junco]

ok so do a reboot, pick the kingston flash drive to boot from

when it gets to the ventoy splash menu, press the F key that says Tree or Browse near the bottom

[low yacht]

Ventoy: no jdo or supported files found

[wheat junco]

look for the tree key

[low yacht]

F3

[wheat junco]

hit that, then navigate to the external SSD, n find ur ISO

[low yacht]

It's not showing anything after pressing f3

Just screen is blinking

Whenever i press

[wheat junco]

hang on

[wheat junco]

u dont see other drives?

u should .. something like directories at least on the Windows 7 installation, or whatever

ie:

sorry, go back a menu, and F2 for BROWSE

[low yacht]

It shows

[wheat junco]

then do this

[low yacht]

Normal mode

[wheat junco]

yeah plus do the checksum too

just to make sure

[low yacht]

Even unable to check file

[wheat junco]

ok nvm that step. just run the iso, boot to desktop

[low yacht]

Not working

When i try normal boot

[low yacht]

Getting this error

[wheat junco]

you're attempting to boot the iso from the external SSD right?

[low yacht]

Yeah

[wheat junco]

oh. wow.

i mean, u could ventoy the ssd.. i was hoping this method would work. always has for me

or try the "boot in grub2 mode"

[wheat junco]

where's the SSD?

or ur doing the grub thing

the top one maybe

[low yacht]

Usb stick is ssd

[wheat junco]

exfat 223.5 GB

[low yacht]

Yup

[wheat junco]

ok go into that

n just do that thing again like before, to find the ISO,

[low yacht]

Not working

Thays what i did at first

Lets ventoy the ssd

[wheat junco]

so when u press enter on the ISO, does it show a new screen saying "normal boot, and then Grub2 mode boot"

[low yacht]

I've already downloaded it in linux

Yup grub2

[wheat junco]

and when u went the grub2 route, it just failed again?

[low yacht]

Ventoy not ready

Chain failed

[wheat junco]

and normal boot, same thing?

i tihnk u tried it first anyway

[low yacht]

None of these working I've tried both

[wheat junco]

it might be cuz the drive's not "internal" ok forget that plan then. Boot back to Mint, ventoy the ssd

[low yacht]

How to ventoy in linux ?

[wheat junco]

ya

[low yacht]

I've downloaded gz file

[wheat junco]

np it's fairly simple

[low yacht]

Extracted ventoy folder

[wheat junco]

k in the folder, turn on the details view

the three icons at the top right

then click the "Type" column to sort by type

then find the file that says ventoy gui x64

something like that

"VentoyGUI.x86_64" is the file

[low yacht]

Linux has stopped detecting ssd

😹

Worked

[wheat junco]

ur ports are being screwy as hell today

[low yacht]

Now

[wheat junco]

ok right click in the white space in the file area, and do "open terminal here"

[wheat junco]

drag this file onto the terminal, and drop it there, then press enter

make sure ur original ventoy usb is ejected..

then it should only find the 224 Gig usb-ssd

defaults are fine, (mbr) then add the "GOOD" new antix ISO on ur hard drive to it

the 'full' one not the base one, in case u had kept both

[low yacht]

@wheat junco check it

It wasn't working but now I've ventoy it using win7... Finally we're on live desktop.. what's next

[low yacht]

I've plugged ssd now.... Installing win7

[low yacht]

Note: it didn't fast a single bit😹😹😹😹😹

[low yacht]

The good thing is now i can switch back to my HDD since win7 and mint is pre installed there. ... Well through this way we've tested both

I'm really amazed why it didn't speedup

[wheat junco]

😋

told you. the fast drive speeds up booting, and launching programs from cold start. that's it.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco i did the same thing with my friend's laptop and ssd made that faster

Well. What should we do now ? I've sdd and hdd where should we install antix linux

[wheat junco]

well, you need an installer medium. since your regular USB is being funny, I guess you'll need to use the SSD as you were attempting to do last night. and install to the hard drive

[low yacht]

@wheat junco did you check this ?

I've got another usb drive

[wheat junco]

yeah i saw it. wasn't sure what you had done

[low yacht]

Lets try with that

[wheat junco]

k

[wheat junco]

that's correct, as long as you're sure the 240 GB thing is the correct drive

[low yacht]

I have to open terminal in ventoy folder and drag that file into terminal

[wheat junco]

yes

u can open a terminal in any folder really, but when u do the drag thing, it saves having to type more

that's the easiest way to run the GUI installer app for ventoy

[low yacht]

@wheat junco got the same error for both the usb... Previous one and newer one

[wheat junco]

interesting. I've had that happen maybe once. try a different port

did the program prompt you for sudo password?

when u launch it

[low yacht]

It worked

[wheat junco]

ah great

[low yacht]

Yeah it asked for password

All the tech troubles are written in my destiny

😂

[wheat junco]

heh

anyway, message me when ur loaded live on the antix desktop ready to install

[low yacht]

@wheat junco is it possible to save the os which is there in ssd ?

While ventoy

[low yacht]

Gkt widget ; failed

Tried 2usb and ssd but got the same error

[wheat junco]

i thought u said it worked?

[wheat junco]

.

[low yacht]

Yeah it worked but when i try to boot it

Got an error

[wheat junco]

what error?

at the ventoy splash screen or further?

[low yacht]

Working eith ssd

Now

We're on desktop

[wheat junco]

ok

run the installer, hopefully it doesnt fail the iso check

[low yacht]

Checking installation.....

[wheat junco]

antix main website finally back. they got a full day outage yesterday

[low yacht]

Yeah! I told you it was running but other pages like download and all wasn't working

Type of installation ?

[wheat junco]

when you mentioned that, it still wouldnt even open the main page for me

[low yacht]

Custom or...

[wheat junco]

yeah custom, since you're d

[low yacht]

Here i mentioned

[low yacht]

...

[wheat junco]

alright so, let me have a look at that picture

[low yacht]

@wheat junco just wanna replace the space we gave to mint

[wheat junco]

yeah so sda3, click the dropdown for it

then pick root

there's some other button on the right side for Advanced things

turn that on, and let's have a look

[low yacht]

@wheat junco didn't see any other options

[wheat junco]

can u expand the two squished columns better, - next to the last column

and show a pic of the help guide text on the left about "Active"

I think u have to checkmark sda3 as active

oh and expand the really really squished column beside the active column. i forgot if it has anything important there

[wheat junco]

not that.. the help column

and scroll to where it defines stuff about "active"

[wheat junco]

change the option value from 'noatime' to nothing

i think ---- is nothing

and put a checkmark on the 'check' column for sda3

[low yacht]

Notime replaced with nothing

Check mark done

[wheat junco]

next page

[wheat junco]

make very, very, very sure about grub

[low yacht]

All set?

[wheat junco]

wait, is there an option in the options column that says "defaults", if so, set it to that

[low yacht]

No

[wheat junco]

ok go to next,

if it asks where to put grub bootloader, choose sda, same as u did with Mint

[wheat junco]

you're not showing me the whole picture

go back a step, or two.

pretty sure u skipped over a few things re: ventoy loop and live changes (not that you need them)

u definitely didnt show me the picture of where it asks for the bootloader (grub)

[low yacht]

Wait a sec.. sharing you proper screenshot... Let me login discord

In live desktop

[wheat junco]

also, in the options, did it actually show you "nothing" in the dropdown list, or did you literally type "nothing"?

[wheat junco]

really not necessary and time waste

just photo the screen and dont show only 80% of it

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

Check

[wheat junco]

.

[wheat junco]

@low yacht

better to leave the field blank instead of the word nothing

after that just install.

[low yacht]

Here it's giving me options to select

[wheat junco]

select what exactly?

those are just details.. proceed

im just curious why i saw no mention of bootloader/GRUB.. oh well. hope it works

if not, the live session contains a boot repair tool also.

[wheat junco]

yes continue

perfect, there's the grub screen

it even makes a 2GB swap file, which u will need. perfect.

if it asks to make or enable a root account, just leave it blank/ dont touch it.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

ah perfect. that's the thing about the save live changes.. ok leave that field blank, and probably tick the Autologin box.

[wheat junco]

the save live changes option is basically handy if u played around in the live desktop for a long time, and already installed programs, changed fonts, themes, and other stuff.. then it would carry all that over to the installed environment

both those websites are useful. they come included as browser bookmarks on a fresh install.

[low yacht]

next option isn't clickable

[wheat junco]

it's writing

give about 15 minutes

4 minutes on ssd

[low yacht]

failed to mount partition

[wheat junco]

dont worry

[low yacht]

do i need to close

?

[wheat junco]

did it give a specific thing

device/partition name?

[low yacht]

no

[wheat junco]

dw, close it

i think that's just cuz ventoy's own folder structures are non-mountable when it is running a live OS

[low yacht]

what to do now

[wheat junco]

just wait til it finishes installing

[low yacht]

installing? nothing is on the screen now

[wheat junco]

hm let me see

if the installer failed, the hard-drive light on your computer is not rapidily or steadily blinking.. just run the installer again and use the non-advanced option like in this pic.. and just set sda3 as root (/) and proceed again keeping all the other defaults til it installs.

gotta go for now. cheers

[low yacht]

do i have to select auto login this time?

it's copying new files now

exceeding more than 8%

Antix has been installed 🤝

[wheat junco]

congrats.

if you want to customize it, let me know

stop by the linux mint community #1060895711484444703 channel, and save some nice backgrounds if u find any you like. or visit your favourite www site for free wallpapers

[low yacht]

@wheat junco definately i would like to change it all

[low yacht]

all thanks to you

[low yacht]

@wheat junco do you know ssd trim feature to optimize ssd performance

[wheat junco]

yeah I know about it. that's just for improving its write speed after it's been used a long time.

or to maintain its write speed.

[low yacht]

Oh! Do we have to change any settings after plugging ssd?

@wheat junco my friend is buying a laptop.. used one so is there any way to check all the specs properly. Usually shopkeepers fool people when it comes to tech

[wheat junco]

um if it's a SATA interface, usually no.

[wheat junco]

in Device Manager, if it has Windows on it

also with a Windows program called CPU-Z

[low yacht]

Does device manager has info about usb versions and ram version?

[wheat junco]

in USB section should show USB Enhanced host controller

it may say 2.0 or 3.x afer that

[low yacht]

She's going to buy it for graphic designing purpose. What should be the configuration according to you

[wheat junco]

i think the general windows system info screen says about the RAM amount and DDR 2 or DDR 3 or higher

[wheat junco]

idk anything intel i5 at least

can ask Curunir about AMD brands

[low yacht]

@terse hill

[low yacht]

AMD naming scheme seems complicated to me

[wheat junco]

i have no idea

[low yacht]

Intel keeps it simple

[low yacht]

Help me to make changes

[wheat junco]

ok

i'll tell u how I set mine up

first, I shortened the rather lengthy quicklauncher in the taskbar

[terse hill]

You are asking about what machine to buy? In that case, please name the budget, and if it should be a laptop or desktop.

[wheat junco]

but dont DONT get rid of the "eject disks" app in the quicklauncher.. u wont get it back ever.

[low yacht]

Laptop! Budget is around 25k

[wheat junco]

what's that in american bucks? 😛

[terse hill]

I presume that is not $25000.

[low yacht]

INR

[wheat junco]

hi Curunir

indian Rupees

300 USD, used

[terse hill]

I have no idea what that buys you in India. It is only about ~280€, which would get you a refurbished machine at best.

[wheat junco]

i'd say for graphic design, anything in the last 9 years.. and NOT a Mac.

since I hear a lot from Rossman the repair guy, Macs are super easy to breakdown, the recent ones

[low yacht]

Getting i5 7th gen 1tb hdd 250ssd win10 4gb graphics

[terse hill]

If you can get that, it should be fine. If you can get a Ryzen instead, that would be more fine.

[low yacht]

Do you prefer ryzen over intel?

[terse hill]

They are objectively better, and have been since 2018.

[low yacht]

How to check version of graphics and all.... Naming scheme of amd is confusing

[terse hill]

Enter the name of the CPU in a search engine, pick the result that leads to AMD. All the specifications you need.

[low yacht]

I heard people saying mac is better for editing 😹

[wheat junco]

bleh

for rich people

and if something breaks, good for very rich ppl to spend HUGE money to fix or replace

and im not exaggerating. Apple quotes HUGE money repairs.

[terse hill]

And I heard that drinking bleach cures your Covid.

[wheat junco]

LOLLLL

🤣

[terse hill]

Seriously, all modern computers have plenty resources for editing. If you need lots of RAM, get one where you can upgrade RAM, which means no Apple products.

[low yacht]

My friend is a devops engineer he's madly in love with Apple don't know why 😹

[wheat junco]

this sounds pretty decent, but it would help if it had more RAM than 4GB, or at least be expandable to more.

[low yacht]

Checking Ram is a real trouble

I don't see options in win7

And where to check ssd details

[wheat junco]

in your own Windows 7, right click "computer" on desktop, then properties

[low yacht]

He can fool us saying it's ssd inside but who knows if there is an hdd

How to check that

[terse hill]

70% of all people in the world are idiots, I do not know why, either.

[wheat junco]

by having it boot up from doing "restart" not shutdown. if it boots within 15 seconds or less, it's definitely running an SSD

Shutdown can be a trick, due to Windows fast-startup magic

[low yacht]

Including me! That's why trying to gather information as much as i can 😹

[wheat junco]

but Restart will definitely restart from scratch.

[terse hill]

You are trying to learn, that means you are not an idiot.

With the budget you named, you are well outside Apple territory, that stuff is expensive and bad value, because you can never upgrade it.

[wheat junco]

also Device Manager> storage controllers> should show what internal drives are connected.. and one should mention ssd, not HDD

[terse hill]

Intel still has some sort of monopoly in most markets. So smart people buy Ryzens, the rest can pay the Intel tax for inferior overclocked chips.

[low yacht]

Don't worry i hate apple product 😂

[terse hill]

I am not worrying, just helping you to not waste money.

[wheat junco]

Ryzen 5 is pretty good. idk my details about their generations tho

[terse hill]

If you find a Ryzen offer you are considering, share it and I can opine on it.

[low yacht]

Will surely do it once we we go to shop tomorrow

[wheat junco]

ok so if ur ready to dress up your new Antix, let's go

[wheat junco]

I guess you're not ready then. nvm.

[low yacht]

I was offline @wheat junco

Btw checkout this
GF63 8RD
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GF63-8RX/Specification

Getting for 360$ usd

@terse hill

[terse hill]

That is a pretty reasonable laptop, if you can get it for your budget. It is even technically Win11 compatible. Of course a 1050 is considered a (very) poor man's choice in the West now, but it will deliver solid performance for some low-detail gaming and never choke on any video decode you throw at it. Upgradeable memory is good, you should make sure you get at least 2x8GB of it. And the best thing about an MSI: It is neither an HP nor an Asus.

[low yacht]

@terse hill
asus tuf gaming fx505dt_fx505dt

[terse hill]

That one is newer, with a Ryzen and a 1650. Quite a bit faster, but also takes a bit more power. I am not too fond of Asus, but they make some decent computers, if they can restrain their overclocking addiction.

[low yacht]

Cost is 384$

[terse hill]

That is about the price it will fetch over here refurbished.

[wheat junco]

hello today.

[low yacht]

Hey, How should we start ?

[wheat junco]

did u get familiar with ur new system yet?

[low yacht]

Yes it is a good laptop and it had 16gb ram. And it also had intel graphics. I don't know why it's not mentioned on website

Totally GPU memo was 8gb

[low yacht]

Kind off

[wheat junco]

first thing u should do, it's not long, is run the antix faq link on the desktop

then the first chapter, "what's in Antix 21"

sorry, i meant the "Some Great Features in Antix Linux"

and below that section simply titled antiX-23

and the "what's in Antix-23".. that whole bit

so u know what ur dealing with when u see stuff in the application menu

[low yacht]

Firstly tell me how to adjust brightness

Unable to find that option

[wheat junco]

sure.

start menu> control centre

then Hardware category

"brightness control" then use arrow keys to ramp it up

[low yacht]

I've moved the slider but the brightness is still same

[wheat junco]

really?

[low yacht]

Yeah! Let me show you

[wheat junco]

maybe hit enter at the setting level u want

or q to quit

else, use the brightness up/down keys on laptop

[wheat junco]

crank it max

[low yacht]

Nothing is changing when I'm increasing or decreasing slider

[wheat junco]

then use the laptop keys with the sun symbols

[low yacht]

No response

[wheat junco]

reboot to grub menu, press the down arrow key once, then the up arrow key once. then use the brightness (sun icon) keys from there, then boot antix

[low yacht]

Can't we do all this with qredshift?

[wheat junco]

no

since that's an applet that only works on Cinnamon

applets are not programs but sub-programs

check what kernel you're currently running, since antix comes with 2.

open terminal and put uname -r

[low yacht]

6.1.60 - antix.1-amd64-smp

[wheat junco]

try the grub thing, then use the advanced options for antix

i think u can pick the 5.10 kernel there. might work better

[low yacht]

Not working! And sun keys never worked on my laptop dont know why

[wheat junco]

well idk then

that's an issue

but not a linux issue

try the other kernel shrugs

[low yacht]

Whay jm supposed to do now! I was able to adjust it in mint and win7

[low yacht]

What is a different kernel ?

It worked

[wheat junco]

it's the core of the operating system

[low yacht]

It booted with low brightness

[wheat junco]

what worked exactly?

[low yacht]

Yup

[wheat junco]

what worked exactly?

[low yacht]

Brightness

Is low now

[wheat junco]

what'd u do?

[low yacht]

Changed the kernel

[wheat junco]

oh ok. check with uname -r in terminal

then run the brightness control thing again like earlier

[low yacht]

5.10.199

Slider working now

I've started hating linx more😹😹 it was very easy in windows to adjust brightness

@wheat junco what's next

[wheat junco]

ah perfect! see u got it!

well i was gonna offer you a better background image for your grub screen

im personally not a fan of the rather ugly default Antix wallpaper image, which is also the grub wallpaper. are u?

[low yacht]

Not at all

[wheat junco]

lol!

ok let's fix that

[low yacht]

I've changed he wallpaper for desktop

[wheat junco]

what did u use, out of curiosity?

[low yacht]

Grub is something i don't care about

[wheat junco]

u will see grub everysingle time u boot.. so i do recommend u put a nice background

[low yacht]

Win10 night sky wallpaper 🤣😹

[wheat junco]

oo nice

u can now go on Discord via web on ur install.

more easy to do stuff

[low yacht]

Indeed!

Do we have to make other changes ?

[wheat junco]

i'll show u .. u said u wanted to change and customize a lot

[low yacht]

Yup

[wheat junco]

alright it's best if u log in to discord now on ur install

[low yacht]

Now i have understood why windows is windows🤣😹

No UI can beat it

[wheat junco]

well, it's alright, but it's also dead.

and 7 ain't coming back, sadly

[low yacht]

I know!

[wheat junco]

and all the later version spy on you in devious ways

[low yacht]

Win 11 is good

What do you say

They're making it easier to use for people

[wheat junco]

they literally say in their terms of service (End user licences agreement , EULA) we own everything on ur computer using Windows

"we can modify anything at anytime"

[low yacht]

That's a sad story

[wheat junco]

"collect user data"

gosh knows if they do anything with nudey pics 😛

[low yacht]

We are never safe the day we started using internet

[wheat junco]

anyway u logged on to discord now?

[low yacht]

You even have nudes🤣

[wheat junco]

no

[low yacht]

Done

[wheat junco]

alright.. so open zzzFM (the default file manager)

[low yacht]

Fir

*done

[wheat junco]

ok so an interesting thing about zzz, is you can simply type the first few letters of a file name in a long list of files, and it will immediately highlight that closest-match file

[low yacht]

I'm not gonna keep any data anymore

In laptop

[wheat junco]

it will work even if searching ur data disk or whatever, just fyi

[low yacht]

Everything would be on cloud

[wheat junco]

💀

anyways

[low yacht]

I've lost my data twice in life

Previous due to virus 😂

[wheat junco]

/usr/share/wallpaper/grub <paste this in the address bar of zzz

i have a few pics i like

these are carefully sized and with the proper colour bit-depth to run on the grub background splash

as are whatever is in that grub folder in the path i sent.

[low yacht]

Do you know programing?

[wheat junco]

if u want to add these, u can save and move them to the grub folder.

no i dont, and i dont want to

[low yacht]

Where and how did you learn all this

[wheat junco]

google

duh!

google is your friend.

just search with a decent sentence

[low yacht]

Wow!! You're the real self made hero 🤣

[low yacht]

That's what I'm doing

[wheat junco]

anyway, did u want to use my backgrounds or pick the ones existing in the grub pic folder?

[low yacht]

Before buying laptop i understand how processor naming scheme works

[low yacht]

I'll use different one

[wheat junco]

ok pick one from the grub folder u like, and make a mental note of its name

u cant use other pics unless they're specially edited to the proper specs

[wheat junco]

have u chosen??

@low yacht

i dont have forever

[low yacht]

Done

[wheat junco]

ok then in control center, go to session, click the item that says Grub background

[low yacht]

Have patience one day you'll be realising your distro of Linux 😹😹

[wheat junco]

and choose the one, then Commit.. (it takes about 15 seconds to do it)

[low yacht]

All set

[wheat junco]

test it out.. do a reboot.

and this time just boot normally (no advanced menu)

it should have changed the grub background, plus remembered your preferred kernel to use, and hopefully remembered your brightness preference

[wheat junco]

how I dressed mine up and I love it.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco bad news boi!!!! my laptop's fan has been broken I guess maybe not working. it works until the grub menu then gets off

HP 630 Notebook PC (currently using this)

[wheat junco]

https://www.amazon.ca/Amazon-Basics-Circulator-90-Degree-Settings/dp/B082MY2MX3/ref=pd_lpo_sccl_1/134-2100363-6455362?pd_rd_w=S1hsk&content-id=amzn1.sym.135c60bb-68cb-4d34-ae94-a6f8d634fb42&pf_rd_p=135c60bb-68cb-4d34-ae94-a6f8d634fb42&pf_rd_r=J70CJ4T8ETAH1PH94839&pd_rd_wg=Cand4&pd_rd_r=4cad00eb-8f0a-45b6-bec5-d123c457e9ce&pd_rd_i=B082MY2MX3&psc=1

put that under it, flat

[wheat junco]

@low yacht how do you know it's really the fan? has the laptop clearly become super hot? and u only hear silence from it when u listen very close?

also it's normal for the laptop fan to spin quite high during power-on self test.. it dies down after a few seconds. that's normal.

[low yacht]

i was using it on terrace and studdenly while using it i heard some sound and saw smoke came out of fan side. It was on for 2 mins then suddenly got turned off. when i tried turn it on it was only booting till grub menu

good news is... it has started working now

HP 630 Notebook PC // i am unable to find the specifications of this laptop over internet could you please help me with this

[wheat junco]

https://icecat.biz/en/p/hp/a6f38ea/notebooks-0886112687380-630+notebook+pc-14259907.html

[low yacht]

How to know that it came with licensed windows or not

[wheat junco]

there would be a certificate of authenticity sticker under it

which by now is likely smudged to oblivion

as u mentioned once

[low yacht]

no no ! this is a different laptopp

@wheat junco i'm online! we can make changes to antix

[low yacht]

task bar is looking sexy!

[terse hill]

Only until Windows 7. Starting from 8, the stickers went away in favour of serials being saved in UEFI, out of reach of users.

[wheat junco]

hello.

[wheat junco]

thanks, it's the Korstro one, you can change it and find many to choose from using the IceWM Manager found in the quicklaunch area of your panel

also launched from start menu, Applications, antix, IceWM Manager

run it, go to the 'Look and Feel' side tab, then use the Select IceWM theme button.

• from the Look and Feel category, there is also a "Change Appearance" button, this will give you control over what the window bodies look like, and the main system font button located under the preview

• in the same look and feel category, there is a button for 'selected app icon to be placed on desktop'. you may click it, search "wallpaper" and hit the checkmark. this will make switching wallpaper a click away on the desktop. You may also add any other apps to the desktop that way.

sample of the 'Appearance' dialog box.

Note the three graph icons in the system tray, they are very handy and are as follows: Network activity (speed shown on hover), Memory usage, and CPU usage (hover shows details in picture above)

• keep an eye on your ACPI temperatures if you think the fan is gone. this temperature definitely rises on media- and javascript-heavy websites like youtube.

[low yacht]

Aren't these graphs clickable ?

[wheat junco]

yes, rhe network and cpu ones

[low yacht]

What else should i change

[wheat junco]

heya good day

read the whole thing I typed, and go wild

can also add Firefox theme from its own settings.

[wheat junco]

• can also edit your Personal menu in the start menu. it lets you add whatever your most often needed or liked programs or setting thing you need there.

[low yacht]

Kindly review this laptop @terse hill @wheat junco

#Dell 7520
I7 7th gen
16gb Ram
256gb SSD
4gb grafic card
15.6" screen
Price - 20,000/. INR

https://www.amazon.in/Refurbished-HP-Windows-Bluetooth-Graphics/dp/B0CX17V424/ref=asc_df_B0CX17V424/?tag=googleshopmob-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=686182893578&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9770937105013922648&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007805&hvtargid=pla-2292047013046&psc=1&mcid=1b420948360c355ebe96d18a205d4b30&gad_source=1

[low yacht]

@wheat junco i have to make changes to time and date like we did last time. And i don't know why it doesn't show battery percentage

things are hard to customise in linux antix

[wheat junco]

check the clock category in IceWM manager

also, right click the time in tray

idk about the battery thing.

[wheat junco]

those are some wicked specs for ~$300 . if it isn't brutally damaged or scratched.. i think it's good.

the second pc, (HP C640) is more limiting. only 64GB emmc which is not upgradable to larger storage.

second one seems ideal for a coffee-shop writer.. very light, but not fit for a graphic designer.

[low yacht]

@terse hill @wheat junco help me with this

Getting it for 24k INR

[wheat junco]

this one seems to be better spec'd than the one in your picture, for less money too.

the HP in the pic with the AMD 3500 is Windows 11 capable though.

24000, is equiv. to about $400 CND, or $300 USD. not too bad.

the AMD 3500 is a more recent computer than the i7 Dell 7520

i'd say both are pretty capable.

the i7 wont conform to Windows 11 requirements.. but it would work great on Linux.

[low yacht]

@wheat junco which one is better and powerful

[wheat junco]

the last one is one generation newer than the dell u listed the other day. it will work on Windows 11, (being 8th gen intel) i cant say the difference between this last one and the AMD

other than ur getting twice the memory

are the AMD and this one both desktop computers?

[low yacht]

Amd is for 23k and intel is for 24k

[low yacht]

Laptop

[wheat junco]

both eh

[low yacht]

Yup

😹

Waiting for your great decision

[wheat junco]

so, between the two, they're both very capable. i'd say check the screen view angles and colour representation.

and go with the better screen

check angles from high and low.. and sides

[low yacht]

Amd comes with 8gb ram.... Intel one comes with 16

The difference i found

@wheat junco i want to learn how do you compare processor and graphics... It's been a big trouble for me

[wheat junco]

how about storage?

[low yacht]

Same 250 SSD

[wheat junco]

oh ok.

if u really want to dig deep, u'd have to research at home on some site about the processors. i cant do that for u

if u're there, the best practical thing to do is load a youtube video, and see how fast u can switch it to full screen while its playing, and then switch back to non-fullscreen

the one that switches fastest and smoothest would be the top choice.

just make sure the youtube video on each test is set to the same resolution

ie - 720,.. or 1080

@low yacht

[low yacht]

Got you

I can compare processors but graphics been a trouble... I don't understand the naming

[wheat junco]

well if the video plays smoothly, and ur not a hardcore gamer, dont worry about it

[low yacht]

I got two websites versus.com and cup benchmark

Whenever i have to compare i just search

ryzen 5 3500u vs i7 8650u

Like this

[wheat junco]

alright. yeah it takes some reading. if anything, find out about the thermals.. which one runs cooler overall

[low yacht]

how to know graphics memory

@wheat junco

[wheat junco]

well it's listed, u posted pictures

[low yacht]

yeah i have got it now

[wheat junco]

generally the more the better for gaming, otherwise not so much

[low yacht]

how do i find if windows is genuine or not

[wheat junco]

or better for video editing

[wheat junco]

usually right click the my computer icon, see Properties

it will typically say so

but idk else

[low yacht]

are digital license attached with hardware ? @wheat junco

[terse hill]

This requires years of experience, especially since the manufacturers intentionally make them hard to compare.
The AMD 3500U would be my favourite among those, but you need to get 16GB of DDR4-SODIMM for it, otherwise it will be a bad experience with the use case you described. If you must pick from the offers as they are, the Coffee Lake Intel with 16GB is better.
Concerning graphics, do you intent to game on it? If so, what do you want to play, which genres? Because for general desktop use with some video acceleration, these are all fine. The difference is mostly in game performance. As for GPU compute, neither of these is useful, because most programs will require an nvidia chip.

[low yacht]

in short you are saying that intel one is better

[terse hill]

Absolutely not. I am saying 16GB is necessary.

[wheat junco]

apparently. idk how they do it. ms-account or something

[terse hill]

OEM PCs have their "license sticker" inside the UEFI, in a hidden place that users cannot read, but Windows can.

[low yacht]

if i upgrade to 16gb amd would be best!?

[terse hill]

I would prefer it. CPU-wise equal to the 8xxx Intel, but better GPU. Also lower power draw.

[low yacht]

how do i know if it's oem or not

[wheat junco]

wait is this for u or that person in graphic design?

[low yacht]

yes

[wheat junco]

idk for surfing and general office stuff.. 8 is fine

for more pro-use, then more the better

[terse hill]

OEM means original equipment manufacturer. For desktops, that means pre-built. For laptops, the vast majority of them are OEM and come with a Windows license, but not all of them.

[wheat junco]

Radhika's gonna explore 1500 Linux distros. by then it will turn Windows 20

[low yacht]

my friend has chosen intel one since it was looking better from outer condition than amd one

[low yacht]

hahaha

[wheat junco]

yeah for a graphics person, like i recommended, screen quality and colour richness would matter

[low yacht]

it was really tough to compare these both

[wheat junco]

then again, anyone can also buy a big monitor

[low yacht]

blew my mind

@wheat junco i have that laptop in my hands now

windows is preinstalled

[wheat junco]

which one?

the AMD?

[low yacht]

intel

[wheat junco]

oh ok. u bought it?

[low yacht]

she bought it

after your review

[wheat junco]

this one? the Dell Latitude i7?

[terse hill]

It has this CPU, right? https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/124968/intel-core-i7-8650u-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html

[low yacht]

see

[wheat junco]

ya i would say seeing as it has a good deal more of memory for not that much more cost, i think it's a good buy

anyway that's a wrap on that I guess

[terse hill]

Intel and their fraudulent naming scheme again. This is a fine CPU, but it is Kaby Lake, not Coffee Lake. Might be just below the cutoff line for Win11 support.

[wheat junco]

tell ur friend to install openhardwareinfo on it.. it will show temperatures

keep it running cool whenever possible to extend the life

even if means buy a cooling pad fan thing under it

[low yacht]

i have to install everything and make changes

[wheat junco]

if its being put on heavy work duty

wait let me see the program exact name on my Win 7

[low yacht]

so i shouldn't install win 11 on it?

[terse hill]

You can if you want to. It might just refuse.

[low yacht]

currently it's win 10 pro

[low yacht]

how to do that?

[terse hill]

There is a Microsoft tool to tell you if a PC can run Win11. I do not do MS support, find it yourself.

[wheat junco]

i say if it runs fine on Windows 10, leave it.

i'm always of the if it works today it works tomorrow mentality

just decline any offers

[low yacht]

do i have to make a fresh install since we bought it from outside?

[wheat junco]

nah lol what for?

[terse hill]

It is on the list, so I guess it is supported: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors

[wheat junco]

if it doesnt have any weird software on it that plainly obvious, dont bother

[low yacht]

why did you say that fraudulent naming scheme

[low yacht]

maybe hacking and all

[terse hill]

Kaby Lake is the 7xxx generation, Coffee Lake is 8xxx. This 8650U is Kaby Lake, because they like to break their own numbering scheme to sell old shit for more money.

[wheat junco]

meh. if ur dealer is that sketchy. can install something like ad-aware or whatever to detect

[terse hill]

Crucially, only 8xxx chips have Win11 support, but this seems to be the case here, although most Kaby Lake chips do not have Win11 support.

[wheat junco]

^^

I mentioned that to her

about 8th gen

[terse hill]

And my point is, this is a weird 7th gen hybrid with an 8th gen name.

[wheat junco]

oh

[low yacht]

how can i upgrade to win11 from win 10

is there anyway?

[low yacht]

how to find such scams

[terse hill]

Look the CPU up on Ark: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/124968/intel-core-i7-8650u-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-20-ghz.html

[low yacht]

it shows kaby lake R

[terse hill]

Yes. I did not know this before, but apparently, Intel made a small batch of modified Kaby Lake chips with newer CPU features for mobile, for whatever reason. They are not Coffee Lake, but since they share some of the features, they were included in the 8th-gen numbering scheme. Lucky for prospective Win11 users, since these CPU features are required by Win11.

[low yacht]

wish i would have bought AMD one and install more ram on that

[terse hill]

It is common that manufacturers re-use old chips and just increase the numbers to justify higher prices when they do not have anything new to sell.

[low yacht]

regretting it now!

@terse hill wish you would have messaged earlier

[wheat junco]

why? u tested it out

[low yacht]

😂

[wheat junco]

if it runs good, it's good

[terse hill]

Sorry for working during the day.

[wheat junco]

^^ LOL

[terse hill]

It is not a bad system, relax.

[low yacht]

yea it works fine

[wheat junco]

this is the app i have on desktop that shows in windows the few things that are important.. core clock speed, core temps, CPU load bar graph, memory load bar graph.. and even the SSD temp.

[terse hill]

Are you sure you don't want me to buy you a refurbished Thinkpad or something, Stunner? You earned it.

[wheat junco]

imma look up the name i think it's called openhardwaremonitor

[wheat junco]

no no thank u

i think my next computer is gonna be a toast-sandwich sized mini pc

[terse hill]

I have three of these now, mini-cube-PCs are great. You can get some Renoir/Lucienne ones pretty cheap right now.

[wheat junco]

brb

[wheat junco]

@low yacht see this pic.. and I recommend the small app. i confirmed it's called openhardwaremonitor . Can also show cpu temperatur number inside the taskbar

[low yacht]

definitely gonna use it after win11 upgradation

[wheat junco]

kek

are u SURE u want Windows 11? have a look at its UI a bit on youtube first

[low yacht]

don't you feel win11 is better than 10?

what do you say

[wheat junco]

not particular tbh. i just hate the wide search box on Win10.. i remove it, and replace it with just the magnifying glass search icon

anyway, leave it ur tastes.

[low yacht]

damn! haha

actually she wants to use win11

[wheat junco]

ok whatever.

are u getting yourself a new computer soon? after the other one smoking the other day...

[low yacht]

year end i guess

[wheat junco]

oh ok

[terse hill]

I do not feel cholera is better than pestilence, no.

[wheat junco]

hello. How's it going?

[low yacht]

@wheat junco could you please suggest me something like to qredshift

[wheat junco]

there's a built in utility in antix. Check Applications>Preferences>Screenlight

use the setup Night values button, put 80 for brightness (or whatever you like) and put 5650 for colour temperature, then save the file, and close editor.

then press the Apply Night values button, and the OK button.

cancel button to exit.

If you want to remove that reddish tinge it makes, set the colour temperature in the night values to 6100 or 6500

[wheat junco]

@low yacht hey how's your system performing?

[low yacht]

@wheat junco sorry i wasn't available here for a while. I have started using win7 and now realised both the os win7 and linux are a bit same when it comes to speed. I didn't see a big change

[wheat junco]

oh ok. what web browser do you use on Win 7?

[low yacht]

currently i'm trying to learn python and alongside AWS

[low yacht]

chrome

[wheat junco]

oh does it even allow the latest version to install?

[low yacht]

in future if i learn linux I'll switch to that

[low yacht]

not at all

haha

[wheat junco]

lol what did u have to do to install Chrome?

[low yacht]

I didn't find a better option

for windows

[wheat junco]

i mean how did u install it, if the website doesnt give u the latest version? oldapps?

[low yacht]

To get future Google Chrome updates, you'll need Windows 10 or later. This computer is using Windows 7. Learn more
Version 109.0.5414.120 (Official Build) (64-bit)

i just went to chrome website and it installed me this version

[wheat junco]

oh i see

[low yacht]

last supported version for win 7

[wheat junco]

same for Firefox for me. I got the ESR version 115 on Windows

[low yacht]

yeah! i just checked now for mozila

any tips for python and AWS ?

[wheat junco]

which coincidentally, is nearly the same version on AntiX by default

no sorry i have no idea about those

[low yacht]

oh i see

[wheat junco]

there's a coding channel in this server

i never go in it though

[low yacht]

in windows i'm using flux as blue light filter

[wheat junco]

kool

[low yacht]

why don't you work in IT sector since you have good knowledge

[wheat junco]

idk

maybe some day

im not dying to get into it

[low yacht]

are you a student or what

[wheat junco]

no.

[low yacht]

that fantastic

i thought everyone is in IT these days

[wheat junco]

🙈

[low yacht]

@wheat junco @terse hill

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[terse hill]

Not reachable. But a Ryzen 5300U is a pretty good budget APU. You do want to upgrade to 16GB RAM, since 1-2GB are taken by the (also pretty good) iGPU, and you do not want to tackle the modern Internet with just 6GB available.

[low yacht]

I've purchased it for 24k INR

[wheat junco]

Hello. How's everything going?

[low yacht]

@wheat junco got a 2nd hand laptop

which i had for yrs now trying to fix it

i want to install ubuntu this time

current :

System Information

Time of this report: 6/10/2024, 06:36:23
Machine name: SONY-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr_escrow.190828-1732)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP 630 Notebook PC
BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 03.60.50F.16
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 5996MB RAM
Page File: 12501MB used, 11479MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

[wheat junco]

hello radhika. busy atm chat later

[low yacht]

sure! ping me whenever you are free ❤️

[low yacht]

@wheat junco are you now available ?

[wheat junco]

hahaaa yes I am stirring

[low yacht]

Thank god

Again linux crisis in my life

[wheat junco]

mind you, I haven't had coffee yet

[wheat junco]

nice

did u install 'buntu yet?

[low yacht]

I'll gift you a cafe😹😹 dont worry

[low yacht]

No! I do nothing before your suggestions when it comes to linux

Have a look on system specs

And let me know what would be better

I mean which distro

[wheat junco]

i just said thr nice

[low yacht]

It's a better machine than previous one

Ubuntu is most popular distro

[wheat junco]

it would run buntu easily. the question is would you be comfortable in flagship Ubuntu?

[low yacht]

And i checked live desktop on distrosea.com

It looks good and easy to use

[low yacht]

Shouldn't be a question to you😹

[wheat junco]

i typo'd

re-read it now

[low yacht]

What is flagship

Desktop environment??

Like gnome ?

[wheat junco]

the main one based on GNOME

[low yacht]

Oh

I just want speed

Let's try gnome

Isn't it good ?

[wheat junco]

Then I would recommend Ubuntu Mate

let me show u some ways Mate can look

[low yacht]

All these are desktop environments right ? Gnome... Kde ... Flagship... Mate

[low yacht]

How about gnome ?

[wheat junco]

also MATE

it has a layout switcher built in

[low yacht]

Windows xp🤣😹

[wheat junco]

n it's faster

[low yacht]

Gnome ????

Isn't that good ?

[wheat junco]

no, the MATE version

[low yacht]

I know.. just asking about gnome

[wheat junco]

gnome might be slightly slower a little

[low yacht]

YouTube is flooded wuth GNOME

[wheat junco]

im just saying it cuz the desktop way is pretty darn different, and idk u have tried it urself in virtual

if u admire it's flow, try it

[low yacht]

I checked it

Which one do you prefer amoung all

*among

[wheat junco]

well, I've tried only Xubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, and Ubuntu MATE.

Budgie is beautiful and modern. and decent speed, and familiar layout

MATE was the fastest, and it had some layout switchers as I said, so it is a simple adjust to make side-panel icon launcher, or bottom panel (like in the XP example pic)

I personally cannot stand GNOME

[low yacht]

Do you still have mate ?