#Act 9
echo magnet
wintry owl
I am lazy to craft accessories as well, there r too much to farm
thin prawn
2000
rustic mortar
He's working on next best idea for ET
violet olive
This is starting to become the most funny chat of discord with that memes 
willow shuttle
2k messages and the only good change was that minibosses dont attack u anymore 
lapis ocean
echo magnet
the only suggestion approved in 3 months 
well deserved holiday for our community manager
for working so hard for the community 
willow shuttle
Ah yes and the monsters are nerfed, and the ts stone is tradeable, and we have a teleport in the nosville... What about eq which is the most important thing in a9? Yeah we are only complainin
violet olive
Ah yes and the monsters are nerfed, and the ts stone is tradeable, and we have a...
More than craft i prefer before higher % from boxes of eqs 
willow shuttle
When everyone was able to finish a raid on ch1 with a random team, it was the best thing they did, but for what? It was too beautiful and they had to destroy it 
regal escarp
desert oasis
LF erenia duo team
desert oasis
torn patrol
barren pendant
You know, that by doing this, you aren't helping, right?
stray cradle
You know, that by doing this, you aren't helping, right?
Well, in any way whatever we do it won't help, this chat have been created like 3 or 4 months ago ? And so far we go no improvements at all.
dapper ore
Well, in any way whatever we do it won't help, this chat have been created like ...
Like every feedback stuff since years actually
violet olive
You know, that by doing this, you aren't helping, right?
but for me it's funny read this post
echo magnet
echo magnet
stray cradle
agile gust
desert oasis
agile gust
https://tenor.com/view/gameforge-soulworker-meme-anime-dance-gif-18050477
they treat real servers as test servers sometimes ngl
stray cradle
they treat real servers as test servers sometimes ngl
They aren't even able to pay people that work for them in 2024, it wouldn't even surprise me if they don't have test server how greedy they are 🤣
desert oasis
By the way, beeing serious for just one minute : i think this situation is really ridicolous - no one is looking at this thread and meanwhile we're asking for just some little things like comunication, they still ignore us.
I really don't understand why people still buy NDs on a game that can't provide more than a consistent update every year, with proper bug fixes during the next weeks (nice fix #🐞│bug-reports message ).
I can easily say that i'm really getting bored on this game and how is it managed, in 2024 i can't trust anymore your words (management) and all you can do is just killin' the players (little) hype that they make themselfs, not because of you.
Probably the only good thing they did during those 2 months is just supporting NosApki, finally, after all those years.
willow shuttle
rustic mortar
look at this, it's becoming a meme page and no one gives a damn about
All on vacation
hollow cove
i think this is the worse act released ... so many feedbacks and totally ignored. We will have to wait for 9.2 meanwhile a lot of people leave the game.. (raid are already dead, no one exp fairy because it takes too much, no one exp because it's too long and waiting for L.O.L. - unless the 0.1% of the whales player base, no one crafts equips because the drops are too much and too low droprate). Those elite players already maxed everything out of the new act in 1 month.
dapper ore
i think this is the worse act released ... so many feedbacks and totally ignored...
As you say, many feedbacks and all ignored.
When act 8 was released, there was tons of feedbacks about its issues, the devs answered they took them in consideration.
Now then released act 9, wich has the very same problems but way more significantly so at this point I don't even think there is anything to hope.
Its like everything since years (act, sp, etc.) Thet keep repeating the same shit whatever we give feedback to them.
echo magnet
willow shuttle
The temptation was too strong..
echo magnet
np they dont care
desert oasis
Soon Chi will start posting here his food plates
violet olive
OH i forgot my foodo today to show to you guys. Thanks for remember to me that 
willow shuttle
chilly spade
OH i forgot my foodo today to show to you guys. Thanks for remember to me that <...
What a wonderful day without it
echo magnet
Make this post " decathlon's food feedback"
unborn verge
When a9 removal?
stray cradle
When NosTale removal
teal shuttle
when a9 music & normal xp in raid
stray cradle
when a9 music & normal xp in raid
Tbh we are trolling there but this is far from the priority looking at the act rn, who cares about music and normal exp in raid if we can't even craft eq 🤣
radiant comet
But i mean its fair. Maybe thats the point.
Casuals arent able to grind a9, and the rich a6 abuser cant buy the items
No gear, no gap
willow shuttle
vital wave
3 Months in, still not worth investing time compared to a6 raiding.
Needs to be more rewarding for the amount of time/potions you invest.
A9 farming, no human being does that. Idk if they ever looked at the numbers for crafting or even droprates. Bad design, bad execution. EXP Daily is using material thats needed in high amounts to craft gear.
oblique monolith
because entwell isnt willing to sell
desert oasis
Probably they gonna delete this message, but that’s the truth
rustic mortar
Actually GF is a shithole that ruins almost everygame they buy
Game is good if there is profit. There is profit so it's all ok.
It will die for sure one day but it's probably far enough you will never have to think about it
dapper ore
Deleted already, don't even know what's been said
stray cradle
Deleted already, don't even know what's been said
They don't know too because they never was reading it 🤣
That's why this shouldn't have been created at all
dapper ore
Meh. I don't think it's a big deal anyway.
stray cradle
Meh. I don't think it's a big deal anyway.
The game is dying but yes, not a big deal, whatever, let it be and do nothing
dapper ore
The game is already dead, it's been years since we give feedbacks, years devs don't give a damn and keep repeating the same mistakes and this whole act 9 is a concentration of it.
radiant comet
A9 is so much better than a8.
But still, its just a better copy and paste.
And its going into a better (i mean we finally got something like fairy stones) and a worse direction (everything else).
But its still the P2P shit. Since a6 its getting harder and harder to have fun while playing it.
Today, its almost impossible to achieve anything without paying a few k per month, or investing 4 hours a day. (To be honest, you have to pay and you have to play 4 hours a day)
Otherwhise you will never be able to reach the „final endgame“.
Still today, its hard to find people with both tattoos on +9. Maybe 0.5% of the playerbase got this far.
And nowadays, you have to play for runes, fairy upgrading, and still tattoos, while everything is gettig f* nerved.
I mean, its even harder to get enough charakter on 90 to abuse a6 raids. Dont forget about nerfing atk potions and dont start to think about the materials for tattoo upgrading. Almost no one ist playing those raids for the items. 7kk per try on +6? Good luck having fun.
Youre playing at least 4 Months to grind gold ans items; to lose everything in 1 hour while gambling and you know, you just wasted youre time. Thats the f main problem on this game. Wheres the fun in a role player game, when the charakter „progress“ is going backwards.
leaden comet
A9 is so much better than a8.
But still, its just a better copy and paste.
And ...
And even you do all this stuff you cant do sh!t with new gear because they dont care about dead game modes
In past we do raids to collect new stuff and do something more with them , and now you do new raids new stuff to do same raids because 0 content
simple flare
oblique monolith
A9 is so much better than a8.
But still, its just a better copy and paste.
And ...
in short, the main issue is progression
we don't have that here
none of the things we need for progression is for certain, since anything we grinded for can be practically get us between 0% or 100000% progression wise. it's basically just gambling from sp, eq, tattoo, perfection, raidbox and everything - which makes it extremely frustrating
wouldn't mind a system where we just need to grind a lot and get progress regardless what, luck not being a factor
violet olive
in short, the main issue is progression
we don't have that here
none of the thin...
The final part won't work in a game where everything is based on protection scrolls for save the upgrade
oblique monolith
The final part won't work in a game where everything is based on protection scro...
not really, easiest thing to do is a pity system for any upgrade system
torn patrol
not really, easiest thing to do is a pity system for any upgrade system
Hardest* the only pity you have is arma/pollulu cores or alza/vale horns, it took them 8 acts for this
Back then a few different rng's did not hurt, nowadays a single upp system has a few different rng x multiple already existing rng it is simply frustrating >looking at you, fairy and runic upgrade
A6 is still popular because well, it is one of the few reliable rng-free sources for ppl who dont want to gamble
violet olive
not really, easiest thing to do is a pity system for any upgrade system
They didnt change % of some a9 drops after 5677888 request and do you think they gonna add a pity system??
willow shuttle
In any case, there is no point in writin anythin 
stray cradle
I like Act 9 and Pollutus Raid 
desert oasis
I like spider legs drop rate, it’s fair for the time invested
stray cradle
I like spider legs drop rate, it’s fair for the time invested
I have to admit that the drop chance from them is really bad, but that hasn't made people think about just waiting instead of shooting out a lot of gold for not really much difference, at least not in PVE, and pvp is currently dead anyway. So I don't understand many who complain but can't wait either.
I've seen people convert their stuff as soon as they were c90 and empty the bazar, people are still buying overpriced spider legs so I don't know
but apart from that, i dont feel like act9 is as bad as most of them describe it here
rustic mortar
but apart from that, i dont feel like act9 is as bad as most of them describe it...
My only complain is the drop rate chance of some items because you need really a lot of them and even if you reach c90 in a map you don't get enough materials to craft a piece of equip. It's insane having to spend over 300 hours only to farm lowest % drops.
flint snow
Even if it's unrefined , I actually also appreciate Pollutus's concept (and its lore , with a Cuby reference in the main quest ) and mechanisms.
The 8-man team makes sense for the boss map size (mostly for the red icon) and the overall organization in pre-rooms as you can split your team members harmonically.
There should be improvements to Pollutus(rewards,Pvp Mechanics) by imo that's far from being an huge issue about a9.
A9 story is ok-good(decent worldbuilding with some more lore about timespace stones , some real life issues and son on) , even though Biaron calling you an "idiot" after an annoying 45 minute Time space is not okay.
Talking about TS , 0 lives during those, is not a great decision (particularly before mobs nerf) because of how long some of those can be (and given that there are 10 TS in a9 quest) , and not rewarding overall.
About droprates , most of them are fine , fairies shards are now good.
And while the amount of mullan tools/mushroom/bullet needed is huge , it's certainly doable in the mid-term.
However , when not fine , it's actually very terrible , beakers doesn't sound too bad when compared to conductors and spider legs.
We don't ask for those items to be suddenly easily accessible , but i.e to increase to 2-3% (so that people who actually farm those still keep some gold value) ,
or either add them to dailies/raid-ts rewards should be considered.
Lack of OST is disappointing , the main city is nice , we still don't know if it's a bug (as it got reported in the thread) or because a9 was rushed af.
Because of "rushed things" , that's probably what people complain about , the Arma raid on release was bugged as hell with missiles randonmly half of a team , you even have a nice YT video making fun of it.
Minibosses being agressive was a terrible idea for exping/drop.
Fairies TS (mostly the 2nd one) needed a huge adjustment.
Lack of daily quests is also disappointing.
A9 is not that terrible , it has some good ideas/concepts , but execution is sometimes atrocious and many unpolished/rushed things are making some players not being attracted to play it.
Also last but not least , as it seems obvious with the amount of answers on this topic , the lack of explanations from GF's side about some decisions/choices (droprate i.e) is a huge downside.
agile gust
Well if they just fix drop rates and make raid more profitable it will be good act ngl
But this 2 things makes the game unplayable cause u cant make the eqs
stray cradle
But this 2 things makes the game unplayable cause u cant make the eqs
If they had to revert pollutus changes, it would be far better
echo magnet
POV: Im still searching for any game designer who give us explaination for this low drop rate
anyway it's ridiculous that mobbing alone from c83 to c88, i wasn't able to drop even half of the materials that were needed to convert the secondary weapon
immagine doing that in group lmao
stray cradle
😂
chilly spade
vital wave
anyway it's ridiculous that mobbing alone from c83 to c88, i wasn't able to drop...
Imagine being lucky enough to do that solo
And still not able to get a weapon out of it
versed hare
I'd like to finish my review of the Pollutus raid, having farmed it for several weeks, the raid is very simple, enjoyable and a little challenging (and you can easily play 3 account). It's probably one of my favorite raids in the whole game ! Having a raid where you don't need to auto afk, but play the game is way more enjoyable, all raid need to be like that. (There is no point to play a game with 15 account and perma auto afk)
Concerning act9 in general, there are still 3 major problems, which may be corrected before/with 9.2?
- Increase drop rate for : Commander Radio Set, Polluted Beaker, Thorned Spider Leg, Polluted Lightning Conductor
- Reduce somehow the amount of armor plate needed for wp and accessory.
- Improve Act9 fairy exp, 90h almost per fairy, it's like leveling 4 time to c90 ??
vital wave
I'd like to finish my review of the Pollutus raid, having farmed it for several ...
Do you mind sharing gear, sps, and everything else that you and your group of 4 people +1? did/have? just curious.
versed hare
No gonna go in all the detail, as this is a feedback threads and not a discussion one :
Our Team is compose of :
-Player 1 : 1(sword) char, good c80 gear, +9 tatou, +20 SP + 1 WK c80 alts with no gear
-Player 2 : 2(sword + archer) c80 correct gear, +7 tatou, +15 SP
-Player 3 : 1 (mage) c80 correct gear, +7 tatou, +15 SP
-Player 4 (Me) : (sword + mage + archer), with 3 char, correct c80 gear, +9 tatou, +20 SP
No one have c90 gear, and we are only playing with 7 dmg dealer
vital wave
as i thought, very maxed out c80 thx
desert oasis
willow shuttle
desert oasis
<:nicechamp:1082724164441489408>
Apart of the permanent desync, i think that also the pvp mechanics + miniboss spawn at same time it’s a little bit.. meh
teal shuttle
I got 8%/hr solo in lab at c85 with double xp event , let's punish solo player
desert oasis
Just top up 800€ every months and you’ll reach 20%/h for sure
If you even get the jackpot with 800€
violet olive
Just top up 800€ every months and you’ll reach 20%/h for sure
If you even get t...
in the jackpots there aren't the best costume , wings and pets anymore They also removed lunar's wings for crystal wings
desert oasis
30 seconds ago was 5%/h
violet olive
well in 30s he did 3% more
desert oasis
Maybe wrong map or method
desert oasis
Btw with good clear and using 2 maps i’ve never had more than 8% in group of 3 persons, i’m still c83
violet olive
i miss all xp boost too
but you have a op charater and you baddo cuz you don't want xp me for free in a9 
echo magnet
i bought my set for 500kk so i dont think my char is that op
violet olive
considering that you need to drop 150 spider leg's it's not a bad things xp me for free. you have the motivations for drop that + mullan + other things to your c90 set! Your motivation is making me c90 for your drop set eqs
echo magnet
considering that you need to drop 150 spider leg's it's not a bad things xp me f...
i have c90 equip too so there is no motivation at all
violet olive
i have c90 equip too so there is no motivation at all <:mossalts:753922720412205...
then you rich
agile gust
Another empty maintenance nice 🙏
violet olive
Another empty maintenance nice 🙏
You can expect the next big patch before easter of after easter when they remove easter event
desert oasis
Another empty maintenance nice 🙏
Another patch bites the dust 🎶
agile gust
You can expect the next big patch before easter of after easter when they remove...
So no updates for 5 months seems right
while changing drop rate of some items would make so big diff
violet olive
You had the fix pollutus patch 1 month ago
desert oasis
“Fix”
desert oasis
<:nicechamp:1082724164441489408>
2 persons near me, 1 item on the floor, still locked
violet olive
Also the desync fix patch some weeks ago 
desert oasis
Nice fix
violet olive
Well maybe the fix is not so perfect but they tryed atleast
agile gust
Yes they try
They dont like that we make the boss unable to use his bug mecanics, so instead of fixing the mecs then fix the pollu, they fix the pollu and bandaid fix the mecs
so we get fkd 2 times more
desert oasis
It’s so fixed that meanwhile you have to do minibosses he also does pvp malus..
echo magnet
stray cradle
It’s so fixed that meanwhile you have to do minibosses he also does pvp malus..
Where is the problem with that? You can organize the mechanics yourself, he does monster mechanic always at the same times like arma does the boxes.
Arma has 2 mechanics at the same time too, Boxes with 3sec debuff, so its no different.
The only problem pollutus has is desync, the rest is fine
desert oasis
In Giant Arma, if during the boxes 3 peoples got the malus, you still have 9 person able to do boxes.
If in Pollutus he does minibosses and 3 gets the PvP malus you have 5 people, if no one dies, for do the minibosses meanwhile you try to save people while missing hits on them
stray cradle
In Giant Arma, if during the boxes 3 peoples got the malus, you still have 9 per...
I dont know if you knew, but the pets do the same damage as the players, so every caged player can let partner + pet hit the monsters, which is working perfectly fine
desert oasis
And is not just me saying this, that i'm for sure not even an average player, but people a lot stronger than me is complain it
stray cradle
this is just about knowledge and coordination, nothing more
desert oasis
I dont know if you knew, but the pets do the same damage as the players, so ever...
Only problem is that, apart of dropping one item on the floor, you're also using your pet to locate your character. We did 7 raids some days ago, we desynced in 5 of them
And as you can see in my SS, i got 2 persons on me with the Red Blood Drop, still locked and died even if i drop one item on the floor to locate my actual position 🙂
stray cradle
I am doing 400-500 Pollutus raids weekly, the only problem is desync, everything else is completely fine, you dont need pets to relocate, just drop 1 sand
desert oasis
<:nicechamp:1082724164441489408>
Yup, just need to drop 1 sand
stray cradle
and apart from desync, its not fixed yes i agree but its waaaay better than before, nowadays its not really a big problem right now
desert oasis
Well, desynced 5 raids on 7 is not so fine
Even paying attention to don't move while boss using skills
stray cradle
I am doing 400-500 Pollutus raids a week and in my opinion it is seriously no problem, of course yes it is annoying sometimes but its rare that someone dies just because of desync
violet olive
I am doing 400-500 Pollutus raids weekly, the only problem is desync, everything...
400 pollutus weekly i think it" s a bit much. Even if you do 10 raid/h it is still 40h weekly. Do you do 6h of pollutus daily?
desert oasis
If he does it with more charas it's maybe possible
stray cradle
Depends always, we do 10-11 raids/h, just 1 char, not doing alts
desert oasis
They're just 57 raids everyday 
stray cradle
Okay well i agree maybe not that much but its over 300 for sure
The only thing i am doing everyday is pollutus so for me its working absolutely great and even with just 1 char, its crazy gold, so i dont know why people sleep on it 
violet olive
Depends i think most prefer doing 4h zenas / erenia daily that is i Think more worth i suppose
stray cradle
I am trying to give as much feedback as possible too, with doing clips, documenting the amount of times the problems happen, so i would suppose i try my best as a player too to help the devs to fix their problem, it would be surely appreciated if more people do it instead of complaining all the time but that is just my opinion
violet olive
I think it's probabily that players prefer doing other raids that are more valuable. Because with 1 char solo it's around 20kk max of boxes + gold with 10 raids = 25kk each hour Instead you get 50kk gold + boxes of zenas. 1h of zenas = worth 2h pollutus
desert oasis
The only thing i am doing everyday is pollutus so for me its working absolutely ...
There are a lot of reasons because people is "sleeping on it", from my own point :
At the start of the Act everyone were doin' Pollutus, you were be also able to just open a ch1 mara and do it with random making a 90% win of the raids, so good money for everyone. Ok, it was bugged, so we can understand that GF can't handle the fact that everyone is making "crazy gold" because of their errors implementing things that can't handle the actual status of server for amount of players/engine or whatever it is.
So they "fix" it > desync appeared, raids become too much expansive in theme of mats and no one wants to do 1h of mara where you just use pets/companion dolls like water and Divine Pots like Rum on Saturday night.
They "fix" it again > desync is not disappeared at all, if you get unlucky (probably like me) you got 5 raids desynced out of 7, and i'm not the only one that feel this, sorry mate, but this is true. After that, you still get shitty rewards from the raid while consuming a lot of dolls and Divine Pots cause Pollutus deals to you 1/4 lifes every attack even with s%defense shells and %defense runic 
And after this, they also killed the TS-Fairy Shards because people crying about them that were not-commerciable, so big drop down in prices.
Wtf is that? And i have to still enjoy Act9 while gettin 6% exp in group of 3 clearin' 2 maps with 0 valuable drops? Come on
oblique monolith
10-11 raids/h is extremely high gear requirement though
most teams do about 7-8 raids/h and average gear only about 6 raids/h
stray cradle
I think it's probabily that players prefer doing other raids that are more valua...
I dont think its fair to compare a act9 raid vs a act6 raid with alot of alt chars
But if i were to make 1+1 in pollutus or arma, the hourly gold would (with r7 luck) go up to 20-60kk /h depending on luck
So its great but still i understand your point
violet olive
Also yes what sealson said 10/11 raids it's super high end gear for the actual server. If you think in a prospective of normal players it is 6-7 that means less than 15kk gold hour instead any normal abuser with normal eqs c80 and some c60 can do solo erenia / zenas.
oblique monolith
I mean, a9 is profitable for people who mono acc, but just not really an option for average player imo
stray cradle
There are a lot of reasons because people is "sleeping on it", from my own point...
In terms of doing gold, i can talk for myself saying, i hate alt chars, i never enjoyed pve, but since pollutus is here, it is still now 500-600kk/week gold for me with 0 alt chars
gold from pollutus is great, i love it 
stray cradle
Also yes what sealson said 10/11 raids it's super high end gear for the actual s...
Yes and no, i have friends doing 7-8 raids per hour, it is still good gold and in the end its depending on r7 anyways, so i think still okay
oblique monolith
Yes and no, i have friends doing 7-8 raids per hour, it is still good gold and i...
7-8 raids is slightly above average, in closed fam
also your eq is not dogshit, ai know that
violet olive
If you have high end solo end account and you hate alt chars yes. It's the best way do a9 thanks to high r7 value, but still you can do for the same time beetween 1.2-1.5b if you play same time with a6
I consider with 6-7 raid and average of 1 r7 h and with 10-11 around 2
stray cradle
My seer is op but my eq is bad
oblique monolith
pretty sure you have property sl + sdmg and overall
stray cradle
nope
oblique monolith
oblique monolith
I might mistook your char's eq with a different guy xD
stray cradle
Sometimes i take some lower geared people in my raids too, and ofcourse some people are heavily equipped and some a bit lower, but i still manage to do great raids, most of the time people just sleep or are not attacking actively or semi afk in pre rooms
stray cradle
I might mistook your char's eq with a different guy xD
who you think i was 
oblique monolith
no, I know who you are, I just mistook someone else's eq for yours
stray cradle
who are you
violet olive
He is sealson
stray cradle
Ingame..
violet olive
Secret
Secretto
willow shuttle
echo magnet
desert oasis
willow shuttle
stray cradle
torn patrol
radiant comet
At least one player seems to be smart grinding it.
desert oasis
vital wave
That Person must be insanely lucky or Farming 24/7
dapper ore
Or tried to buy all of them to sell at a more expensive cost
desert oasis
leaden comet
willow shuttle
Gudu act in the beginnin there were a few eqs to buy after super changes 0, y sure
So whats better kfc or mc
desert oasis
Burger king
willow shuttle
Damn
desert oasis
hollow cove
FIX A9 WAITING ROOM
dapper ore
You can wait
echo magnet
agile gust
Devs reading this feedback threads
agile gust
It's fine we dont need anything
Not like we need 6000 of those !
Nothing to see here everything is balanced as it should be :
Scrolls almost same price of one of those 🤣
violet olive
In dv they cost less than 1 spider leg
dapper ore
Its still over 50M an act8 weapon scroll, maybe there droprate could be increased, even a low-average c80 stuff is barely enough for act 9
vital wave
nono, they dont want to buff a8 so people can catch up
radiant comet
Its easy to catch up. Its just hard to find equipment.
No one (at least at the server i am playing on) is betting c65 gear.
Why should i need scrolls if its more expensive to buy c65 gear than c83 gear?
right now, its possible (in a group) to get on c83 with c60/65 gear.
Its not worth to spend so much gold on c80 gear.
And if we compare c80 and 83 gear, in my opinion its better to wait for c83 gear.
vital wave
Its easy to catch up. Its just hard to find equipment.
No one (at least at the ...
On Jouten its impossible to find equipment.
Market for C65 has been dead since a9 was released. No one does asgo anymore.
Market for C80 was dead before, since everyone was busy rushing to c80. Barely and raids -> no gear. Like 3 total pieces in NB.
Market for C83 is dead too, there is no new gear. People stack billions to look for gear. Even betting event did nothing.
stray cradle
On Jouten its impossible to find equipment.
Market for C65 has been dead since...
Dont worry same on dragonveil
echo magnet
teal shuttle
@tidal cave why we dont hv music in a9
agile gust
Why choose when they should fix both
chilly spade
<@492279897553895424> why we dont hv music in a9
It's not the necessary thing about A9 right now
violet olive
In my opinion a game that does not invest proper in music means that there is no invesment in it in anything
For a simple reason:
- music is the last step and normally it cost way less than other part. If that part is very low budget or 0 budget it means that the invesment in the entire project is near to 0
rustic mortar
For a simple reason:
- music is the last step and normally it cost way less than...
Remember that almost none play with ingame music and few ppl play with dmg sound only to minimum
I didn't even know that a9 had no music until few seconds ago kekw
violet olive
Remember that almost none play with ingame music and few ppl play with dmg sound...
Because in Nostale the Game Audio System is trash as fk. You don't have a truly 3D, sounds are not well defined and also you don't need to know what around you happen or not. There aren't boss or skills that advertise you of doing something by audio or a spazialitation is no need to know if something like a gun or similar is coming from left, front, behind or below or top to dodge that
stray cradle
Because in Nostale the Game Audio System is trash as fk. You don't have a truly ...
Then why would you want to add sounds / musics ? There is legit 98% of the playerbase that plays without sounds
violet olive
Then why would you want to add sounds / musics ? There is legit 98% of the playe...
Just because for see if they invest a little in something
tired mauve
Then why would you want to add sounds / musics ? There is legit 98% of the playe...
Because it's one of the most basic things they should do and failed to do (which a few players actually looked forward to). And, there's nothing wrong with someone voicing their wishes just as you do regarding other topics. If as you said other topics are 'much more important for everyone' then surely (and it has already been like that) those topics would have much greater noise here compared to the whispers regarding music. Up to devs to decide their priorities anyway and of course they should see how many more people talk about certain things
dreamy creek
Because it's one of the most basic things they should do and failed to do (which...
Let's ne honest here. Dedicated music = you have to pay to someone. Their funds are limited, and when you add this to the fact that 98% of players have their game muted anyway it's not worth it. It's better to spend those funds somewhere else.
violet olive
Let's ne honest here. Dedicated music = you have to pay to someone. Their funds ...
I think you are little wrong. On indie company normally is the developer or graphic ui itself that add and make music. Pretty sure in nostale they don't have someome for music since it's pretty basic ambient. So probabily they didn't had time for that
tired mauve
Let's ne honest here. Dedicated music = you have to pay to someone. Their funds ...
I'm not saying this is not the truth regarding resources, I just think there's a certain point where cutting off edges like this will make players feel it's too much. We can apply the same reasoning (I don't want to use the word excuse here but you know what I mean) to everything including translation errors
torn patrol
Let's ne honest here. Dedicated music = you have to pay to someone. Their funds ...
Well, they had fully new bgms for act6 and 6.2, as well as half of the act7 and 8. Even the fernon raid area aka "path to temple site" has a special bgm where,%95 of the server did not visit once and limited to 4h/week on weekends only. Majority were on full-mute back then too and it did not stop them, so why now?
I personally dont think nos will see the a10, given some feedbacks are not even heard or heard after 3 years (we needed clod on a7 but they took a7.2 8 and 8.2 for its arrival) or even after 6 years (cough a6 book droprate and spawnkills) or simply not at all (all the visual camera bugs)
flint snow
Well, they had fully new bgms for act6 and 6.2, as well as half of the act7 and ...
Path to temple site is a great Ost , it was a good choice to put this one on some a8 maps.
Not having music isn't the issue per se , but it was reported as a bug issue at first , and 3 months later , we still don't know if it's a bug or simply they didn't bother to create music.
Again it's a lack of communication that is bothering.
violet olive
Path to temple site is a great Ost , it was a good choice to put this one on som...
Even if they didn't made music they will never tell the truth as a company in my opinion. So it would be probabily a bug forever until they don't do them
flint snow
Yeah probably true
dapper ore
Because in Nostale the Game Audio System is trash as fk. You don't have a truly ...
Actually... I react slightly faster at Glacerus's storm with the sound effect than the pop up message 👀
echo magnet
hollow cove
@hollow jewel we have been left alone? No news on the raid fix? On drop rate of items? On the other critic points?
Maintenance and no fix , not even a word.
MAY we know how many c90 are there? And how many c90 equips are crafted yet after 4 months from release?
violet olive
You can check in ranking the number of c90
Eqs you cant
hollow jewel
<@641195357434544139> we have been left alone? No news on the raid fix? On drop ...
No news for now, I keep forwarding the topic
vital wave
Have they ever considered not making meele characters in raids feel bad for being meele characters?
leaden comet
In that speed we will get act10 faster than any Fix/changes
violet olive
Have they ever considered not making meele characters in raids feel bad for bein...
Yes . use crusader
Or ask to ur temmate to pay u as swordie to use bk.
Start to respect urself
There arent enough sword for all teams
vital wave
no but honestly, im playing zerk and im getting permanent +50% cd and -30% def for being in meele range hitting boss
how is that anything reasonable
violet olive
Thats why you should ask for money to use bk
violet olive
In that speed we will get act10 faster than any Fix/changes <:uncanny:1171017954...
Thats probabily yes. If they gonna do some fix in june, this means that 6 months are passed where most of players didnt play a9 at all and achieve any good result. So the a10 will come in prob. 1 year and half that is not enough for xp , do eqs, fairies and craves
Especially if lol dont give 50% /h. That it would not be but probabily 20-25%+. This means that you need from c80 to c90 an average of 40 days for reach c90 and then u are in august, you go to holiday and then septembee comes and you just reach c90 from december
Good 10 month of gameplay of a9
Then you have 1 year and 2 months for complete entire a9. New sps and perfection and things like that
So the 2 years of act in nostale means literally 1 year due of the slowness and fix
This is happen also for a8
But they rushed for 8.2 because they were losing money cuz no-one xp in a8. Here more ppls are xping instead so they can rish slowly on fix
oblique monolith
Or ask to ur temmate to pay u as swordie to use bk.
Start to respect urself
it's stupid that swordies suffer every time in i.e arma raids
rocket fields just drop on boss and you either pot every few second while facetanking the boss to dps, or you move out of the field and be useless for 10 sec
as mage you can literally dps and hit from africa while not taking a single hit during the boss
radiant comet
rocket fields just drop on boss and you either pot every few second while faceta...
Just play Crusader.
violet olive
it's stupid that swordies suffer every time in i.e arma raids
Crusader
violet olive
Gameforge fault if they are stupid. They had the chance from 9th to 12th to add second weapon sps to element missed on 2nd weapon
Little wrong choice + little wrong choice * x times = irreparable wrong choice
vital wave
Wtb crusader Set (joutenheim)
hollow cove
No news for now, I keep forwarding the topic
Ok , thanks.
dapper ore
Martial artist be like :
violet olive
it's stupid that swordies suffer every time in i.e arma raids
they could also add limited fp craft. craftable only by swordie and can't be passed by warehouse. where instead of x10 you get x50 limited one . But that's too smart for gameforge
in this way for the same price of other class a swordie can use x5 fp in ratio
chilly spade
I don't think the drop rate increase will appear before the A9.2 update.
violet olive
I don't think the drop rate increase will appear before the A9.2 update.
you smarto boya
hollow cove
I don't think the drop rate increase will appear before the A9.2 update.
Yep, no fix no raid drop or exp before 9.2 lol and new sp. I think they finished to work on nosfise technical adjustment. After nosfire gets closed we will get the update
flint snow
update: at least we got the bgms <:alts:804435410939674675>
Recycled BGMs , people who asked for music ended up being more disappointed because Undercity does not even have a new BGM.
chilly spade
Recycled BGMs <:drkekw:978651352517476462> , people who asked for music ended up...
Feel free to compose brand new BGMs for A9
And send them to devs
violet olive
And send them to devs
who is so idiot to do things free for a company
while they get money.
flint snow
Feel free to compose brand new BGMs for A9
Yeah sure , they ignored your dozen of suggestions this year , makes sense for them to easily accept some ChatGPT Bgm.
chilly spade
Yeah sure , they ignored your dozen of suggestions this year , makes sense for t...
Not just mine, but... Yeah, you're right.
chilly spade
chilly spade
@hollow jewel Let's be honest, there are plans to increase droprate of mats or decrease for crafting? It's kinda joke right now
Even with 9.2, i'll be waiting
hollow jewel
<@641195357434544139> Let's be honest, there are plans to increase droprate of m...
There is nothing I can share for now, I'm afraid. However, and as usual, I keep forwarding your concerns about the matter, so it's a topic that's constantly present in our weekly reports and/or meetings
chilly spade
In my opinion, the main problems with Act 9 are:
- HUGE amount of materials needed to craft equipment and low droprate
- The Arma Raid should also have the Mullan Felt Hat and Accessory Crafting Parchment in the raid box to make it more beneficial
- Fairies can only gain experience in the Act 9 area
hollow jewel
The three things were forwarded, plus the Pollutus desync issue
oblique monolith
In my opinion, the main problems with Act 9 are:
- HUGE amount of materials need...
fairy being able to gain exp in a9 only is fine
the main issue is that one of the crucial feature that was mentioned to be implemented still hasn't been, which is:
fairy exp is based on mob strength/level
it would make a huge impact on fairy lvling in a9
chilly spade
Yes, yes
oblique monolith
it's not a suggestion, it's on livestream
hollow jewel
chilly spade
Seems ok to me, thanks
radiant comet
Please make the C87 head available on different ways. Maybe for a few useless items from a9 to exchange at the npc?
But please, dont use items which are needed for eq and other stuff, otherwise such an change would still be useless 😮
oblique monolith
Please make the C87 head available on different ways. Maybe for a few useless it...
I'd want it to be available on arma raids as well
or a softpity at x cores that can be exchanged 
radiant comet
That would also be nice.
Just another way than right now.
leaden comet
well its almost half year of a9 and not even a small change so idk , if Dave forwarded all these things, someone who decide is blind or dont know anything about the game ._.
agile gust
i think i'll get mad if they don't make any changes to 9.1 with 9.2
and make craft easier, it's stupid it cost 1B
thin prawn
9.2 will be way worse If there wont be change for crafting/drop rates
violet olive
what's the problem with the a9 hat? It is rareo itemu. And it gives op gamechanger, +2% atk and +2 sl ele compared the a8
regal escarp
9,2=8,2
ripe sail
Can you make crafting eq not a fu**** nightmare?
radiant comet
Can you make gambling eq not so expensive? And please less gambling? 🤷🏻♂️
If i want to play something like slots, than i could play slots lol
Everything else seems to be good.
burnt birch
a9 is so fun 😄
flint snow
Well imo Mullan's tool are okay(was slightly annoying at first because of fairies) , but you remind me of how terrible a9 books system is.
pseudo pine
Well imo Mullan's tool are okay(was slightly annoying at first because of fairie...
imo books arent even that much of a problem, I've leveled in upper+bottom lab and im now 87, quite some of the hours I did in 2 exp and I've killed the miniboss 691 times. By the time I reach c90 I will have killed it 1000+ times which should on avg get me all books once. But in the same time, my party and I have collected about 500 mullan tools in total; meaning the 3 of us got barely enough tools for 1 EQ. then there's also all the other mats you need... way too many
violet olive
691 times? How do you calculate it
flint snow
imo books arent even that much of a problem, I've leveled in upper+bottom lab an...
I'd say that one of a9 drop main issues , and your example proves it, you can't farm both things at the same time if you want to xp.
Labs/Polluted maps are overcrowded during double xp , making the other people not able to farm minibosses and secret lab monsters.
And even during double drop event , those maps are full because of mushrooms , cut wire and so on...
Mullan's tools and bullet shells are pretty easy to farm during double drop , but it's on the invaded mines maps , which are useless for exping for the latest C-lvl (outside of fairy xp , which is another issue) and barely farmable if you're on a 2-3 man group.
You either have (almost) all books and labs/polluted maps items needed , but barely mullan's tools/bullet shells , or you are stuck with "invaded mines" items , but you're not c90 yet.
pseudo pine
I'd say that one of a9 drop main issues , and your example proves it, you can't ...
wdym? you can perfectly EXP and kill the minibosses at the same time? Atleast in the labs.
flint snow
wdym? you can perfectly EXP and kill the minibosses at the same time? Atleast i...
I meant having both books and a huge amount of mullan tools/bullet i.e
burnt birch
Hope new lol with a9 drops
violet olive
no a1 drops
vital wave
yeah spider legs are dropped now from dragons
violet olive
yeah spider legs are dropped now from dragons
with 0.01%
desert oasis
where werzo
violet olive
where werzo
he's doing the advertise for the parfume... Paco Rebanne. His name is Werzo (reban)
burnt birch
There is hope
rustic mortar
There is hope
Need to read changelogs
grand jewel
There is hope
powerfull iteam = Accessory h30
regal escarp
powerfull items
torn caveBOT
letiis_ has been warned
pseudo pine
There is hope
My hope is gone
burnt birch
My hope is gone
Droprate is increased
pseudo pine
Droprate is increased
Radio set - Spider leg - Beaker - conductor, only ghose it seems
stray cradle
Radio set - Spider leg - Beaker - conductor, only ghose it seems
are these items increased in drop%?
pseudo pine
are these items increased in drop%?
Yes
pseudo pine
Is there a list to what % etc?
Prism sent this
stray cradle
Prism sent this
okay got it thanks
echo magnet
where werzo
vital wave
Prism sent this
Still very low, now that c90 lod is there.
wintry owl
@hollow jewel pls relocate the entrance of lol to a8, it is stupid to see asgobas in a9
hollow cove
<@641195357434544139> pls relocate the entrance of lol to a8, it is stupid to se...
i agree it had more sense to stay at the same entrance of the old LOL, especially when it doesn't give any fairy exp and doesn't drop items from a9...
agile gust
Actual price of craft on Cosmos FR : Main weap : 1,025,732,000 gold (1B), Armor 1,087,916,000 gold (1b1?), Secondary weapon 610,657,400 (610M) is it normal that after 5 month of act9 it still cost 2,7B to craft items that already billions if they are good?
violet olive
Actual price of craft on Cosmos FR : Main weap : 1,025,732,000 gold (1B), Armor ...
Yes it is
. because any of usefull items is in a9 raido
leaden comet
Actual price of craft on Cosmos FR : Main weap : 1,025,732,000 gold (1B), Armor ...
just top up nosmall and buy from basar
pseudo pine
Actual price of craft on Cosmos FR : Main weap : 1,025,732,000 gold (1B), Armor ...
dragonveil is comparable, main weap about 950kk 2 weeks ago but prices have gone up since. So probably very close
violet olive
500 2nd weapon and around 1b main
hollow cove
https://discord.com/channels/628543142819528714/1239112404512673832
guys please check this suggestion, could be a "partial" help for the drop-rate problem. I know c90 player with converted equip will downvote, mostly, because they spent 1kkk to convert, but this is not healty for the game.
hollow cove
Pollutus status:
can we get an anti double-mechanics fix? (mobs + pvp or mobs + root?)
can we have the radius increased to "unfreeze" the freeze during pvp mechanics? It is frequently bugged and you lose all the time tryng to unlock 1 person.
burnt birch
dead game
vital wave
Pollutus status:
can we get an anti double-mechanics fix? (mobs + pvp or mobs + ...
is that still not fixed? i remember that being a thing like 3 months ago. It was pretty bad when people got tped to the edge of the arena and could not get unfrozen.
vale carbon
People just do like asgobas waiting for a mech to then decrease the life of the boss to summon mobs xd
ripe sail
A9 needs fix item drop
hollow jewel
Drops can't be increased much more at this point
We're forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment instead
violet olive
Drops can't be increased much more at this point
Why notto?
hollow jewel
Why notto?
Rates were doubled already and the numbers themselves are balanced compared to other equivalent content in the game
The more these rates are increased, the more other rates have to be reduced in exchange, and the idea is not to make more common items less frequent
And personal pov - even if the current rates were doubled again, I'm uncertain people would still be satisfied
agile gust
Rates were doubled already and the numbers themselves are balanced compared to o...
Hello, even with the recent materials increase, you still get only 3-4 spider legs per hour, for one armour you would need around 40-50h of maps for just spider legs which is only armour
But i agree that right now the problem is plates that requieres 2k+ of each items and that leads to multiple billions of gold for one single craft, you can get away with spiders legs and beakers if plates are taking care of
hollow jewel
Hello, even with the recent materials increase, you still get only 3-4 spider le...
Doubling the droprate, you get 6-8 spider legs per hour, you need around 20-25h of maps just for spider legs
agile gust
Doubling the droprate, you get 6-8 spider legs per hour, you need around 20-25h ...
True but going from 100h before to 20-25h is kinda good xD
Only dragonveil that is polluted with bots can craft eqs rn, it's pretty hard anywhere else
But anyway, armour plates, Hardened Steel Plate, Solid Metal should be way easier to do :/
I think the best option is either : Double drops on all item requiered to do those items or Half the craft needed to eqs (for example : main weapons needs 10 armour plates -> instead now 5)
(this seems big but even with reducing by half this craft, you still need 600-700 shells, wire, mushroms etc...)
agile gust
We're forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment instea...
And i agree with you it's better to reduce materials needed than increasing drop rates again
vital wave
More daily quests to obtain wanted materials
frosty ingot
We're forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment instea...
thanks 🙂
violet olive
Rates were doubled already and the numbers themselves are balanced compared to o...
The rate could have been balanced to other content rate yes. But the numbers of mobs? It's not all about rate but also about monsters. I can have 10% spawn rate, but 1 mobs ever 3m and 0.1% rate but 500 mobs every 3m
hollow jewel
The rate could have been balanced to other content rate yes. But the numbers of ...
Then it's not a matter of rates, but about mob frequency what you're asking about
violet olive
Then it's not a matter of rates, but about mob frequency what you're asking abou...
Yes but rate should be balanced also on the number of mobs that spawn for each time.
hollow jewel
So you prefer to keep touching rates instead of reducing crafting materials for the equipment?
violet olive
So you prefer to keep touching rates instead of reducing crafting materials for ...
I prefer having craft items in raid and daily quest
frosty ingot
So you prefer to keep touching rates instead of reducing crafting materials for ...
reducing crafting mats is better i think
violet olive
Mostly
frosty ingot
I prefer having craft items in raid and daily quest
no, maps need to stay relevant
violet olive
In this way boxes value have their importance and also more gain for who does a9
frosty ingot
we need reduce mats for jewels + armor rare item, cf spider legs/lightning rods/cups and armor plates
chilly spade
So you prefer to keep touching rates instead of reducing crafting materials for ...
I prefer the second one
The chances are ok right now, but amount of mats are not
But let's assume that the cost of materials will be reduced, so will people who previously crafted armor plates receive their materials back, just like they did with pet essences?
Probably not, it's hard a bit
You actually gave the green light not to produce armor plate now, since the requirements will be reduced (high probability)
agile gust
But let's assume that the cost of materials will be reduced, so will people who ...
People who crafted early still had 5 month+ of huge gap between c80 and them
hollow jewel
But let's assume that the cost of materials will be reduced, so will people who ...
Not possible, no
hollow jewel
People who crafted early still had 5 month+ of huge gap between c80 and them
Exactly. It's like any other content rework/revamp in games, with the time they can make something easier but what's done is done usually
agile gust
Yeah it's the same everytime the more you wait the less thing costs, people who did act9 eqs can abuse trio a9 raids rn
chilly spade
You should test the upcoming update in a "normal" way, that is: dress your character in eq 80-90C, turn off god mode and test the raid and all upcoming content from A to Z. It will spare you and us disappointment. I mean oneshot from Arma.
It was not visible on the stream because god mode was turned on.
frosty ingot
But let's assume that the cost of materials will be reduced, so will people who ...
obv not that's not how it works lol
agile gust
You should test the upcoming update in a "normal" way, that is: dress your chara...
With current rate if we needed to wait for testers to craft eqs, a9 would be for 2025 bro 💀
hollow jewel
You should test the upcoming update in a "normal" way, that is: dress your chara...
Testing is different than showcasing
We do not test in livestreams, livestreams are to showcase
agile gust
Btw will there be livestreams for sp11 / act9.2?
chilly spade
Btw will there be livestreams for sp11 / act9.2?
There should be, obviously
hollow jewel
And it's a bit hard to beat a raid designed for several people being alone with normal equipment
chilly spade
And it's a bit hard to beat a raid designed for several people being alone with ...
I had more in mind the mechanics of the boss than just defeating him
agile gust
There should be, obviously
We don't know yet since season was doing the stream with jophiel and hes no longer part of the team 
hollow jewel
Btw will there be livestreams for sp11 / act9.2?
Maybe, I'll ask about it
chilly spade
Are they working properly, etc.
oblique monolith
no, maps need to stay relevant
this,
first act where farming on map is ok even for gold gain honestly
though amount needed to craft is a bit over the top for some stuff
pseudo pine
We're forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment instea...
If this change happens, will people who own equipment get a refund of plates/materials?
violet olive
If this change happens, will people who own equipment get a refund of plates/mat...
no
pseudo pine
no
Why not? When they eased pet trainer requirements people who started before also got essences refunded
violet olive
Also i'm still wonder why books have so low drop rate, when other act have better drop releted to number of mobs killed / %
hollow cove
Rates were doubled already and the numbers themselves are balanced compared to o...
are you sure they are balanced? i mean , maybe the drop% but the amount of items needed? And the amount of mobs in 1 map? and the time you need to clear those mobs? and the dolls/gold spent to farm those maps?
How can you say everything is balanced the same just watching %drop rates? I think the variables are way more
pseudo pine
are you sure they are balanced? i mean , maybe the drop% but the amount of items...
Some things are fine but some are terrible, imo if it was 7 plates for main eq 5 for secondary and armor and just one for accesories it would solve a lot. I just hope they refund the extra plates for those who own eq if they nerf it
hollow cove
Some things are fine but some are terrible, imo if it was 7 plates for main eq 5...
they already said they won't. You got it first, you enjoyed it and used it in the game. this is their answer.
pseudo pine
they already said they won't. You got it first, you enjoyed it and used it in th...
Well I JUST got it this morning, if they change it within a week im going to uninstall or just troll and cause chaos instead 😄 possibly losing 500m for using eq 1 week "early" is stupid af
If they change it, they better announce it 4 weeks ahead of time imo (ik they wont)
pseudo pine
To add to that, they should wait after nosfire merges aswell because who knows what the supply of items will be when that server merges.
torn patrol
well, there could be some limitations: if you crafted it yourself and still using it (didnt sell or similar) you should be eligible for a refund imo
pseudo pine
well, there could be some limitations: if you crafted it yourself and still usin...
yea thats fair, but then again if you bought it you paid for the crafting costs too indirectly. But atleast this is something.
marble kestrel
Act9 is there for several months now, and main quest give lame exp and no usefull rewards. Same thing with dailys. I could even say that a9 dailys scam people, cuz its requited more valuable mats to do them then it give in return.
Any plans to fix that or it will just stay like this?
pseudo pine
Act9 is there for several months now, and main quest give lame exp and no useful...
Yea tbh if they change some of the quests they dont even have to change mat requirements. I will suggest something later that could make sense
pseudo pine
Ok guys, what do u think?
vital wave
Ok guys, what do u think?
QoL update
pseudo pine
QoL update
I think this would solve most of the EQ crafting problems (atleast from a plate perspective) what do u think?
vital wave
Yes, we need way more daily quests that actual let us progress the game in a reasonable time
violet olive
They just decided what to do . so usless
pseudo pine
They just decided what to do . so usless
what do u mean?
violet olive
what do u mean?
Reduce plate and item for some craft
pseudo pine
Reduce plate and item for some craft
I still dont understand what you mean, you are suggesting they reduce plate and item for the craft- or thats what they are planning to do or... ?
I would like the change I suggested because it gives people who actually play the games content outside of arena some extra income without having to farm maps after c90
violet olive
I still dont understand what you mean, you are suggesting they reduce plate and ...
This is what they are planning to do
pseudo pine
This is what they are planning to do
Well @hollow jewel said that they are forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment- the adjustments could also be making other ways to obtain them unless he is refering to the AMOUNT of required materials directly
tribal stratus
Agree
violet olive
Well <@641195357434544139> said that they are forwarding adjustments to the requ...
Prob. It would be required materials
hollow jewel
Well <@641195357434544139> said that they are forwarding adjustments to the requ...
I meant amounts yes
pseudo pine
I meant amounts yes
Ah, did u also check out my suggestion? I dont think its a bad idea either
hollow jewel
Ah, did u also check out my suggestion? I dont think its a bad idea either
Adding materials as quest rewards?
pseudo pine
Adding materials as quest rewards?
Changing the daily quests up a bit, and also putting mushrooms and wires in box in the place of 5x mystic power crystal
frosty ingot
I meant amounts yes
reducing the amount of certains item would be perfect sir, notably Armour Plate, Lightning Conductor and spider legs
hollow jewel
Changing the daily quests up a bit, and also putting mushrooms and wires in box ...
I can forward adjustments to the quests, and give the numbers as an example/idea, yea
pseudo pine
I can forward adjustments to the quests, and give the numbers as an example/idea...
I think with those changes mats would become more available quickly and accessible for everyone without having to reduce the amount of armour plates needed. That way people who've already crafted EQ won't be upset either about having had to use more plates either.
wintry owl
simplify the last 2 TS
dark sinew
On a8 was same problem with dratanium, but Azgobas raid got it in boxes. Bcs it was limited raid the economy was still good. Raid 9.2 probably will be limited like azgobas bcs gonna be add new sp and perfection Stones, so add cables and mushrooms(5/10/15) to boxes 9.2 raid and problem solved. Other items are balanced.
radiant comet
Yes, and please on the daily way. So youre just allowed to raid without having life.
Please make it better than with sp9 and 10 perfections.
And please dont adjust such items. Im so glad about the option to get gold for actual farming stuff. That wasnt possible since a5.2
agile gust
We're forwarding adjustments to the required materials to craft equipment instea...
Hi, any feedback from the team about this topic?
hollow jewel
Hi, any feedback from the team about this topic?
Not for now I'm afraid
pseudo pine
tbh prices have dropped like crazy, I dont think its super neccesary to make changes to the EQ themselves because EQ gives an insane boost and its worth the gold- the accesories requiring 3 plates is insane tho considering how little of an upgrade pve ones are from a8 to a9 ones
agile gust
Theres just not enough materials if ur not on dv, they should halve armor plates
vital wave
Any non DV Server struggles with common things yes
rustic mortar
tbh prices have dropped like crazy, I dont think its super neccesary to make cha...
I think the game should give you more ways to collect mats. Forced to stay in map over 150 hours is not the right way. You have to waste time to collect them all but now literally months.
oblique monolith
I just want trash drops to be removed
pseudo pine
Theres just not enough materials if ur not on dv, they should halve armor plates
wdym if you're not on dragonveil? Dragonveil also has more players so more EQ to be crafted? I agree about getting more ways to collect the mats like dailies
agile gust
wdym if you're not on dragonveil? Dragonveil also has more players so more EQ to...
Yeah but dv has a ton of bots which make up for the amount of the players
pseudo pine
Yeah but dv has a ton of bots which make up for the amount of the players
Does DV have bots farming a9? I havent encountered one
oblique monolith
Does DV have bots farming a9? I havent encountered one
yeah, tons of c90 players are botted
pseudo pine
I did c90 on map and I havent seen anyone botting- sure there must have been a bunch but I dont think its that much
oblique monolith
sometimes you just farm and see a c90 hit mobs 1 by 1 and if you groupinvite he stops attacking for a few min and dies
pseudo pine
plus when they reach c90 they still need eq?
agile gust
Bro even then
oblique monolith
current trend is fairy ts botting
agile gust
people get c90, not everyone has 2.5B to craft eqs
oblique monolith
tbh none of the c90 bother farming to craft
agile gust
yeah they bot to resell mats xd
oblique monolith
but do a6 to try to buy limited amount of mats available rn
weird thing is that vale and dv have rather similar a9 mat prices tho
agile gust
Anyway they should divide by 2 or 75% the mats for armor plates, or number of armor plates needed
storm sonnet
tbh prices have dropped like crazy, I dont think its super neccesary to make cha...
Prices droped on DV,cause 90% of actual nosfire players went there. On vale prices skyrocketed due to ppl bringing more alts and gearing them
pseudo pine
dw prices are going to go up on DV for sure too the moment the first Land of life people start getting c90
dreamy creek
I think the game should give you more ways to collect mats. Forced to stay in ma...
It's not forcing someone, it's just another way of making money. Just because you want to do Erenias/Zenas for 50000hours straight doesn't mean someone else will not go to the map and start making money that way
finally a9 made map mobbing worth wasting time, gameplay is no longer limited to raids 24/7 xD
agile gust
yeah it's good to make mat farm viable but bro 5000 cable and 6000 shrooms? come on
make it half and they will see have a lot of value cause more people will want them
dreamy creek
yeah it's good to make mat farm viable but bro 5000 cable and 6000 shrooms? come...
Reducing the requirements, increasing the drop percentage will only lower the prices and make map mobbing not worth
agile gust
In the long run sure, but for the moment most c90 people does not have any c90 eqs and will start to buy a lot of those mats if the craft was made easier
dreamy creek
In the long run sure, but for the moment most c90 people does not have any c90 e...
if the prices will increase that much that you will be able to do 30kk/hour from map then it for sure should be considered. But currently when you make aroun 7-15kk per hour - I think it should not be touched tbh
oblique monolith
a9 farming is very nice for people who are mono acc, it's a very good gold source atm for them
agile gust
if the prices will increase that much that you will be able to do 30kk/hour from...
But as i said, price won't go down becasue they make craft easier
dreamy creek
a9 farming is very nice for people who are mono acc, it's a very good gold sourc...
Yeah, exactly
oblique monolith
quite a lot of people who mono acc do have full c90 eq
agile gust
if they halve the number of plates needed for main weapon, everybody will want to craft one, so ur mat price is not lower and ur rentability is not touch
And you have to understand not everyone is on DV where the market is flooded with everything, i simply cannot craft anything in fr
because for some reason they ask for 12 billions of items
dreamy creek
Harsh of life, you cannot balance the game around the servers that are dead. None of the great companies do it, neither do Riot that balances the game around the proplay, no bronze/silver, neither do Valve that balances the guns around the proplay
oblique monolith
only somewhat unreasonable piece is armour crafting imo which is pvp only relevant
agile gust
Harsh of life, you cannot balance the game around the servers that are dead. Non...
Just not true ? They do balance champs equaly between high and low elo (they recently buffed k'sante cause it was underperforming in pisslow while it was destroying MSI)
but it's fine, people who did craft a9 already are against this and it's perfectly fine, but their opinion does not matter since they are not chasing these a9 anymore
dreamy creek
Ksante is a really bad example, the most broken champ in the game which they just cannot balance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW69GYmiHBM
agile gust
Yeah it's the perfect example
oblique monolith
real issue is fairy exping for me rn, not really the mats
dreamy creek
real issue is fairy exping for me rn, not really the mats <:uncanny:117101795423...
You had thousands of languages to chose from, and you chose the language of facts
agile gust
They consider changing it soon, and i think not being able to use the new eqs is more concerning than 30% more fairy but welp
vital wave
Ksante is a really bad example, the most broken champ in the game which they jus...
RIOT
pseudo pine
make it half and they will see have a lot of value cause more people will want t...
this is definitely not what will happen
oblique monolith
this is definitely not what will happen
they will drop so hard in value while mono chars loses one of their main gold source, making a6 farm the best again
agile gust
Dont think so
It will balance things out like ts
Fairy before nerf : high price -> nobody buys and it drops
After patch : more shards available, price goes down -> market is empty -> price rise to normal
And tbh if ur c90 with 1 acc and u aim for 10kk per hour on maps, u dont know how to play pollutus far better
pseudo pine
Price is not going to rise if u half the mats needed. It will drop hard and never recover.
agile gust
Bro u dont understand economy in nos its fine
And even if it drops a little, price to make c90 will still be outrageous
oblique monolith
people still bought shards for 2kk and 4kk on mass though, and quite a lot of people got their fairies up before the changes went through to make ts tradeable
the dif between both is that making eq requires 0 nosmall items
fairy does
most c90 people have at least 1 or 2 weapons converted after exping too
agile gust
people still bought shards for 2kk and 4kk on mass though, and quite a lot of pe...
eqs requiere much more nosmall than fairies bro
u need to up, upgrade, and rune the eqs and even bet the eq in the first place
oblique monolith
though lowered armour plates are good, but like from
armour plate crafting requiring 8 hardened steel plate + 8 solid metal -> 5 steel plate + 5 solid metal
main weapon: 10 armour plate -> 8 armour plate
secondary: 7 armour plate -> 6 armour plate
armour: unchanged
oblique monolith
eqs requiere much more nosmall than fairies bro
it's fully speaking from crafting wise vs fairy upgrading though, no one would convert trash for current endgear (except a very few people )
dreamy creek
it's fully speaking from crafting wise vs fairy upgrading though, no one would c...
somehow those very few people usually speaks in taco
agile gust
though lowered armour plates are good, but like from
armour plate crafting requ...
That would be decent yes
oblique monolith
gave some random numbers, bht would tbh be too much actually, that's about 50% cut of mats for the main weapon
agile gust
any change between 75% and 50% of plates would be ideal
oblique monolith
should be ok if overall crafting was down to 70-85% of the current armour plate cost
pseudo pine
Bro u dont understand economy in nos its fine
Ah yes I dont understand nos economy, thats a very good argument to your opinion.
violet olive
In my opinion they need to reduce craft mats by 95% and thats it.
hollow cove
i think the majority of people gave up on crafting c90 and jobbing fairy
pseudo pine
i think the majority of people gave up on crafting c90 and jobbing fairy
nah im almost there 😎
hollow cove
wow, 1/100000000000000000000000 in game fairy and dark fairy 😛
oblique monolith
nah im almost there 😎
on darkbowz or kasse?
gloomy lantern
@hollow jewel are the plates reduced or the amount of items to craft a plate?
dreamy creek
Announced changes ruined the prices of matses on dragonveil, mobbing on map is no longer an alternative for making money - a lot better ways of making money, even solo
So as a next adjustment we will need map drop rework to make mobbing relevant once again 🤡
pseudo pine
on darkbowz or kasse? <:elahmm:1140590783834103848>
Kaas
agile gust
Announced changes ruined the prices of matses on dragonveil, mobbing on map is n...
Reverse effect in fr, wires went from 150/ea to 220/ea. But it's cute DV botters are afraid of plate nerfs
junior thistle
Actually, i sold a slot of wires 255/ea yesterday :D
hollow cove
Announced changes ruined the prices of matses on dragonveil, mobbing on map is n...
134k mullan tool compared to 70k 2 weeks ago, i don't know what you smoking 🙂
agile gust
As i said, market will go up for sometime, cause if craft is "easier", the supply will be more available yes but the demand will grow too..
old sluice
As i said, market will go up for sometime, cause if craft is "easier", the suppl...
stop crying
rustic mortar
As i said, market will go up for sometime, cause if craft is "easier", the suppl...
For like 2 weeks then it will drop a lot. I bet final plates will drop to 40-50kk ea
agile gust
For like 2 weeks then it will drop a lot. I bet final plates will drop to 40-50k...
Well look i need 41 plates, so 40-50 each is still 1.6-2b not counting anythig else in the craft
agile gust
stop crying
No you stop crying little botter
rustic mortar
Well look i need 41 plates, so 40-50 each is still 1.6-2b not counting anythig e...
It's way better than now
agile gust
It's way better than now
Oh yeah but prices went higher on fr for the moment so xD instead of 100m plates it's more around 120m, i'd dream of ur 40-50 
burnt birch
It‘s a crime
dreamy creek
134k mullan tool compared to 70k 2 weeks ago, i don't know what you smoking 🙂
1 item. Worm tooth 200k -> 63.5k 🙂
Shrooms price is down to 58k from 100k
queen vortex
FR serv
queen vortex
130k/u
frosty ingot
wire 290k?
dreamy creek
Scales are for 35
frosty ingot
Scales are for 35 <:pepesadseer:988717596163588138>
send botters to fr 
dreamy creek
I highly doubt the botters are the problem on a9 since all maps are usually free of people and you have to invest a little into character to make it possible to bot on a9
agile gust
Its not 100% bot but yeah it is botted as f. But anyway dv standards should not be taken seriously the server is overcrowded and almost no pve thing is valuable there
dreamy creek
Its not 100% bot but yeah it is botted as f. But anyway dv standards should not ...
There were before announced changes. A9 mapping was a really good alternative for solo Zenas/Erenia for players that do not have/do not want to have 100 alts
oblique monolith
I highly doubt the botters are the problem on a9 since all maps are usually free...
people just exp on map on dv
dont think fr does it and they dont have as many
a lot of mono acc just go a9 to farm mats to sell because it is worth
might be similar mentality to when a8 first dropped, it was done on all servers but fr as far as I know, at least neglected for most parts so scrolls and mats had extraorbitant price
for dv, a lot of the botted items dont land on the market but those c90 bots use it for themselves mostly
only few sell
dreamy creek
a lot of mono acc just go a9 to farm mats to sell because it is worth
That's what I'm talking about, it was A GREAT alternative. But now? It's even better to do Kertos mara probably
agile gust
Price would be lower if ppl didnt had to empty bazar to craft one eq 
unborn verge
Dont nerf mats pls 
old sluice
U just cannot go drop?
old sluice
U can 3h raids And 3 drops mats for few days And U Got it
agile gust
U can 3h raids And 3 drops mats for few days And U Got it
6h nostale per day? Wtf are you jobless
old sluice
Nah, im working rn And raids 3h per day
oblique monolith
I'd say 1-2h per day spent on games is realistic, not more than that
old sluice
Its end game eq if u want it u need to grind btw
agile gust
I mean if this craft came up r7+10 good shell and runes why not, but its literally just the least important part of the eq
Still need to pay 5-6b after that craft. So yeah reduce it
old sluice
Nah, Just pray for marge servers not boost % drop mats