🌈lgbtq

[iron escarp]

i have pretty big hips myself and i can assure you you can, it might just take a little bit more time to find the good pieces

like i went to a lovely local goth shop in my country(very much a privilege, im still super grateful) and they really took their time to help me pick pieces that were masculine/androgynous that would fit me well

but you can also kind of do this online by checking measurements on indiviual items that you believe could be good additions to your wardrobe(did this pretty often, it works pretty alright)

[signal hull]

Local goth shop 😭??

[iron escarp]

yeah, we have one in either maastricht or valkenburg(these places might as well be connected)

[signal hull]

I'm jealous. I don't dress goth, but want specific pieces 💀

[wicked jungle]

i used to be extremely dysphoric when i was tiny - always went into the boys bathrooms in kindergarden
then my mom started to force me to dress feminine, act feminine, be feminine (i had to wear something like a very tight cocktail dress to a trip to a cow farm else i wasnt allowed.) and i used to be like "i'm a woman." but the way i said it always turned less and less confident until i finally was free from her and was like "no i hate that. i dont want that." ._.

parents are scary ._.

[iron escarp]

i mean i dont dress goth all the time myself, but i love the pieces i have to death

[next hornet]

@wicked jungle I hate that so much for you :( I'm so sorry

[wicked jungle]

about that: are they not accesible because of how they are generally made? if so can you maybe try sewing yourself or something like that? :o

[iron escarp]

plus the goth store also sold more casual goth-alt clothing, think mallgoth ig? and steampunk items

[iron escarp]

i dont have the space nor the time to sew anymore T_T

[wicked jungle]

or even just "correcting" it

[rocky merlin]

I'm jelly now

[signal hull]

How to sew

[iron escarp]

they have a web shop! i am like 99% sure they ship more internationally

[signal hull]

I bought a sewing machine thinking I'd learn but I ended up having no time 💀 and no good fabric stores near me

[wicked jungle]

take needle, take thread, poke cloth, dont poke hand

[signal hull]

Hand hath been poketh 😞

[wicked jungle]

DoNt SeW hAnD

my dad accidentally sew his thumb to his hand. he didnt notice for 5h.

[signal hull]

Luckily it came in clutch bc my mom used it sew us masks early pandemic :')

??????? I hope it's okay???

[wicked jungle]

it is but his hands are just all around littered with scars

whenever he leaves his bed i see new boo-boos and i'm just- how does someone manage that?

[iron escarp]

they do ship internationally, and the website is in english(aside from info only important to you if you physically want to visit the store)

[wicked jungle]

drop the link owo

[signal hull]

Omg I'm forgetting that this server is for coral island 😂 who's y'all favorite love interest?

[wicked jungle]

lol this channel is just lgbt, you're gud

[signal hull]

Man I want cool pieces, but I'm not sure if people are getting them at fast fashion places. My go to is a local thrift store lol

[wicked jungle]

but millie/yuri/theo/suki/raf/I WISH ZARAH WASNT ALLERGIC/surya

[iron escarp]

you can search up "bizzare maastricht" you will find it that way

[wicked jungle]

thank you

bizzare.nl?

[iron escarp]

i actually went to a vintage store for some of my goth(ish) pieces

[iron escarp]

yes!

[wicked jungle]

ahh the memories of browsing emp.de

[iron escarp]

but last week i went and found nothing new(even though i kind of need summerproof items, sigh) i suppose thats just the natures of secondhand/vintage stores

[signal hull]

Kenny Rafael n Noah for me lol

[iron escarp]

i mean emp is def more punk/casual overall but i have bought stuff from there

i actually went to a physical store of it in germany for my jacket

[wicked jungle]

they used to have a gorgeous goth section

idk how it looks now but i truly did cry about how pretty some pieces and even some casual goth pieces were ;-;

but man they arent friendly for taller/bigger lads

[iron escarp]

i mean that goes for a lot of companies

[wicked jungle]

true that

if i could just clothe myself in dark harajuku fashion i so would
but i'm a bit too tall

[iron escarp]

it kind of sucks but there are also a bunch of lovely small owned shops with much better stuff that is actually size incluse(though i know not everyone can foot that kinda bill..)

[wicked jungle]

and fatto catto

[iron escarp]

im either too short or my shoulders/hips are too broad

[signal hull]

Omg y'all vintage store must be amazing. Never seen many cool pieces for me. Mainly like oversized clothes I like to repurpose

[wicked jungle]

good looking fashion for tall fatto catto broad shoulders/hips non-female leaning is so hard to find, and so expensive like wth

[iron escarp]

i mean we have lots of "preppy" vintage stores here, so like vintage stores for like 50year old moms or whatever

[wicked jungle]

omg broad sibs highfive~

[signal hull]

What are broad shoulders lol

[iron escarp]

but yatva, the vintage store i go to is black-owned i believe, and they really have a lot of diverse stuff(like clothing for a broad range of styles)

[wicked jungle]

shoulders where you can put 5 kittens and still have space for a person to smack you against them without disturbing the kittens

[iron escarp]

i like how you measured shoulder width in kittens

[signal hull]

Ohhh that's really cool. I wish I lived where they shipped (the other stores you mention)

[wicked jungle]

i have no better way of measurement, i cant think in realistic sizes

[signal hull]

I happen to have kittens I throw over my shoulder. I tried to get them to be shoulder cats. They are not shoulder cats 💀

[iron escarp]

approximately 3.5 slices of cheese

[wicked jungle]

are they crown cats?

[iron escarp]

awh i love kittehs

[wicked jungle]

but

[signal hull]

??? Not sure. They were former stray orphans

[wicked jungle]

oh i mean do they like to lay across the crown of your heads

-> crown cats

[signal hull]

Oh no 😂 they hate being carried except the arms like

[iron escarp]

carry kittie like babie

[wicked jungle]

"heads," like you have multiple omg kill me

[signal hull]

Cradled?? Idk how to describe the motion

[wicked jungle]

carried like princesses nodnod

[iron escarp]

carried like royalty!

[vast jacinth]

an arm palanquin

[signal hull]

Waiting for someone to carry me like that 😪

[wicked jungle]

my current fashion sense is: rainbows, i am gay, i repeat, i am suuuuuuuuuuper non straight

[iron escarp]

i cant im not strong enough to lift anything

[wicked jungle]

uhm if you wanna, sure? i love to carry people bridal/royal style

[signal hull]

Thank goodness I pre-ordered the alpha..honestly stumbled upon it bc RF5 hype 😂

I say this, but I'm also ticklish as hell 😂 my friend also offered one time to prove her strength, but I fell from wiggling

[wicked jungle]

i just always casually royal/bridal carry people and comb hair while also braiding it sometimes, am i a trope o-o

i have large arms and am immovable, i know people tend to get ticklish in such poses if fixating on the carrying lol

[signal hull]

Casually??? 😂 How does one initiate that conversation

[wicked jungle]

they say they are tired, i lift them up and carry them home?

always with consent tho, only for friends

[signal hull]

Weak arm gang 💪

[iron escarp]

i mean im just weak in general

[wicked jungle]

do yall even lift bruh 😂

[signal hull]

Aw that's very sweet 😊

[iron escarp]

used to but then covid hit, gyms closed and i lost motivation

[signal hull]

I lift... myself out of bed. Never been to the gym, I'm waiting for one day I get a partner or friend who will show me 😂

[wicked jungle]

i had a very nice friend who danced ballet, she had a showcase the day before we were going hiking with the class, i carried her up the mountain, it was honestly the most beautiful experience in my life

[iron escarp]

i lift myself, off the floor because i only have 1 low table and eat every meal that way

[signal hull]

Oh wow that's an extra workout oml

[wicked jungle]

low table on the floor? japanese floor table style?

[signal hull]

Oh snap, like

[iron escarp]

god i wish i had the money for that

[wicked jungle]

hahaha same thought

[signal hull]

It looks so comfortable but not? Never used one of these

[wicked jungle]

they are suuuuper warm, sometimes there are tiny heaters under the blanket making it even warmer

[iron escarp]

i mean sitting on the floor is actually not that bad(i actaully sit on a yoga pillow cuz BONES)

[sterile wadi]

They're okay, they keep your feet super warm. However if you're like me and prefer to sleep in the artic, then this is no good.

[wicked jungle]

cozy³

[iron escarp]

which is why they're expensiveee

[sterile wadi]

my friend has one.

[signal hull]

Oh very true, I prefer cold room with a bunch of blankets packed on top of me

[rustic drum]

Oh I was just talking about a kotatsu in another discord hahahaha

[wicked jungle]

truer words have never been spoken, i thought i was the only arctic sleeper, my balcony door is open and my room icecold, how you doin

[wicked jungle]

we were listening in and luring you here?

[rustic drum]

Is this the universe saying I should get one 🧐

I've been summoned by coziness!

[iron escarp]

if not then im saying it(if you can afford one)

[signal hull]

Oh snap that sounds cool. My window can't open, but it would only let hot air on anyways 💀

[wicked jungle]

yall have warm climate? :o

[signal hull]

If you buy one make sure to enjoy it so I can experience it secondhand

[iron escarp]

i mean in the netherlands its usually not that warm so having a kotatsu would be pretty cool

[wicked jungle]

is that where our spring and summer bloomings have fled to?

[signal hull]

I live in... Texas 💀

[vast jacinth]

I wonder if anyone even makes kotatsu that are good for someone 6' tall...

[iron escarp]

what spring? the only spring we have is rain

[wicked jungle]

ice then hot? nice

[wicked jungle]

we do have some sunny days come on ;-;

[iron escarp]

netherlands: NO SEASONS ONLY RAIN

[rustic drum]

Maybe replace the heater with an ice bucket lol

[signal hull]

Yeah that's why I assumed it would be maybe uncomfortable for my gangly limbs

[wicked jungle]

actually i love rain, i just wanna get warm rain

[iron escarp]

enough to count on one hand in most cases, unless there is a singular heatwave

[wicked jungle]

i may be too far south then huh

[iron escarp]

i like rain, unless im cycling(sensory)

[vast jacinth]

I mean I get all rain being around seattle, but we still get mild seasons

[dark patio]

Hey guys! Gentle reminder this isn’t a general chat. Talking about weather might be better in one of the generals! ❤️

[rustic drum]

Oops sorry Elsa! ❤️

[signal hull]

I love rainbows 😏

[iron escarp]

not the smirk emoji

[wicked jungle]

yes the smirk emoji

[rustic drum]

I actually do have a pride quandary 😩

[wicked jungle]

whats up buttercup of happy?

[vast jacinth]

seems a shame to derail the weather banter for it, but perhaps shoot anyhow

[wicked jungle]

nobody moved anyway, we're all scared gays lol

[iron escarp]

i mean i just wanna know happy's pride quandary now

[rustic drum]

My friends are starting to chat about going to pride this year assuming it's safe to do so, but ahhh.... I love them but they're all straight and basically just go for the "glitter party"... cringe... idk what to do because I do want to go, just maybe not with them XD

[wicked jungle]

me too but since i got two functioning eyes everything is happening

then do a interwebs pride party with us pride bubs

[signal hull]

Oh snap literally talking about going to pride in my chat too

[rustic drum]

How to nicely say "oh no but if you see me don't be alarmed" lmao. And idk if i have the energy to have that "this isn't your party" conversation with them 👀

[iron escarp]

i mean if you're comfortable to i would suggest discussing why it's not a good thing to treat pride like its only a fun party event with glitter and drag queens

[vast jacinth]

fetishization cringe seems like a deeper conversation might be better to take place in general, the event might just be a good excuse for it to be relevant

[signal hull]

Never been, but I wanted to try. I don't wanna go alone tho 😪

[iron escarp]

i am not quite sure i understand what you're trying to convey

[signal hull]

Aw if you're uncomfortable, I hope they can be understanding! I actually heard a friend saying the same before, and it hurt the other person a little, but just do it with tact and I think you'll be okay

[rustic drum]

Yeah it really bothers me that they do that, ugh but they all have such strong personalities haha i am the hermit of the group XD so quiet compared to them haha

[wicked jungle]

may i ask what exactly a glitter party would mean?

is it just a party that needed a reason so pride was taken?

[sterile wadi]

Pride usually has lots of parties and glitter has been adopted by the LGBTQ community yo show our solidarity with the Arts and Crafts community.

[wicked jungle]

like saying "i did a good job, i deserve that cookie" even if you just opened your textbook?

[vast jacinth]

it's a pretty common sentiment to not like to feel like it's cool, sort of gaysploitatve

[rustic drum]

Yeah thats pretty much what I meant thank you~

[vast jacinth]

just might be an excuse to talk about those concerns

[dark patio]

You need to keep in mind that not everyone speaks English as a first language, and the tendency to go for the biggest possible words to describe a subject can be alienating in conversation.

[rustic drum]

But maybe I should talk to them.. Do you mind if I ask how your friend handled it? I'm just not sure how to word it

[sterile wadi]

Do you already have a different group to go with?

[iron escarp]

i mean the glitter party very much extends to a real phenomenon in terms of embracing stuff like drag queens, queer language, and such while openly not supporting the community where it came from( it is seen with other minority groups as well)

[signal hull]

They didn't handle it well 😂 I think they bluntly said it, but the other person was sorta understanding despite the bluntness. So if you say it more gently and sincerely, I think you'll be Ina better position

[wicked jungle]

mmmmm parties sound exhausting :c

[vast jacinth]

sure, a...what...triple portmanteau there? just not sure how to phrase it

[iron escarp]

i am so confused

[signal hull]

Same, 😅 I think I'm missing context bc I've never been to pride?

[rustic drum]

Trying to see if I can scrounge one up

[iron escarp]

i mean i would have originally considered to go to one, but because of what i've heard i really feel like its a space where my identity as well as what i am uncomfortable with (especially considering public setting stuff) will not be respected

[sterile wadi]

So there are two routes you can take. Speak to them honest about it and tell them your worries. Allies can join in at Pride, I feel like they're more welcome than the Cops are at the very least. However if they're not there to support the community and just there to benefit from out top party vibes. Then they're not real allies.

[wicked jungle]

yeah exactly the same sentiment, last year shouldve been my first pride :c

[sterile wadi]

Or straight up tell them you already made plans and have a group.

[iron escarp]

yeah

[signal hull]

I kind of understand. It's like, pride is about being queer, and going with straight friends might make it feel like it's less about the community and your identity and more just a general celebration?

[vast jacinth]

or worse that it's just a decorative theme

[wicked jungle]

honestly cant wait until coral island multiplayer is out and then just having CI pride parties

[wicked jungle]

people just searching for a reason to party without actually caring (or even respecting the reason) are horrible ;-;

isnt that close to appropriation of culture kinda?

[signal hull]

I don't think it's exactly that for everyone, but it's like... Uh imagine white savior complex but for LGBTQ+ stuff? If y'all heard of that?

[vast jacinth]

yeah, it's a bizarre motivator for some

[wicked jungle]

totally, not everybody just uses pride to party, just saying that those who do... just sadness

[rustic drum]

Oops sorry didn't mean to confuse anyone! Also didn't know glitter party was an actual type of party! I just mean they're treating it like a big party that happens to have "gay aesthetics". Pride is a celebration of LGBT+ identity and also in celebration of the stonewall riots in the US that led to a gay liberation movement - though there are pride celebrations across the world as well, but I can only describe the ones for the US.

I dont necessarily mind going with straight people, just not ones that go to basically treat it like an outdoor rave

[vast jacinth]

indeed

[iron escarp]

i mean your feelings on that are not just valid, but very much a sentiment that the community shares

[signal hull]

Oof like an outdoor rave :')

[rustic drum]

I think they also just don't fully grasp that I've come out as bi 😅 so I just feel uncomfortable with them at events like this right now..

[iron escarp]

treating celebrations of what started and to an extent still are riots against the status quo that binds us, and the laws that hold us back, as a party to go get wild at and lose youself in is not it(especially not in sucha manner)

[iron escarp]

which is a completely reasonable and understandable feeling!

[sterile wadi]

You need Queer friends basically. It makes sense, people who are going through the same things you are.

[rustic drum]

I really do I'm just awful at meeting people hahaha and this last year and a half really didn't help 💀

[signal hull]

I feel that oml

[sterile wadi]

This last year has been the worst.

[vast jacinth]

it may be helpful to frame it that way: you need space to explore that part of yourself, makes it less awkward if they decide to go it alone

[iron escarp]

i mean you're here arent you? finding online queer communities is often a first step towards finding ones in your life

[signal hull]

I resorted to online to find friends 😅 and joined my college LGBTQ+ org

[rustic drum]

Very true💕

[signal hull]

If y'all figure out how make irl **queer friends lmk I haven't found out the secret 🙈

[rustic drum]

Well I guess I'll try to talk to them about it if they bring it up again.. I do have a friend (who's gay) who's been wanting to spend a few days here with me, and so maybe I'll see if I can help him travel around pride and we can go together 🥳 🤞

[signal hull]

That sounds so wholesome 🥺

[wicked jungle]

honestly tho it's easier to find those who truly have the closest experience to yours online
i have queer friends irl - none of them are nb, ace or pan tho, none of them go through the kind of "impostor syndrome" of thinking of not being ace or being wrong for such, but as mentioned before this community alone just flipped the worldview of "oh i am the only one, i might be the problem/fakie" in basically no time

[vast jacinth]

it's definitely also easier to find ace people online

[wicked jungle]

and even among my irl friends i'm terrified of being judged by them because there were already people who i wouldve called close aquaintances who did so.

i feel like a big ol fraud towards them haha, like i owe them my full coing out but fuck if i aint scared

[wicked jungle]

do that, make them (him?) happy, happy ;o;

[rustic drum]

OH I don't know what all hobbies you have- er I guess besides backing Coral Island hahaha- buuuuut I saw this on Twitter so maybe keep an eye out for that if you'd like!

[wicked jungle]

it's also a weird realization that some straights want "gay best friends uwu" but we lgbt truly need gay best friends to share our experiences and feelings with

[signal hull]

My problem is is just finding people I vibe with within the queer community 😅 it's easier online, but irl it's a little hard if we have different interests + hobbies

[wicked jungle]

yeah something like that would be awesome - but tbf i would be hella shy with strangers for such a pride.
i'd love to have a mini pride party with the horde here but i'd understand if the understanding wasnt found in everybody/not everybody has the time or want for that, truly :)

[rustic drum]

Confetti and Seum are both Ace streamers and seem like super great people! I follow confetti on Twitter, and have seen seum pop up a couple times

[vast jacinth]

it's definitely great to see community happening, for my part I'm just way too introverted

[rustic drum]

s a m e

[wicked jungle]

to that: i find it awesome how internet communities can try to share interests even if they dont do in the beginning? you can just tell me your fave media movie-anime-series, whatever and since i am at my laptop anyways i can also just immediately check it out lol

[vast jacinth]

honestly, good reception or no, surprised I've been active here for multiple days

[rustic drum]

I think they just might be doing a variety stream together for people to tune in and watch? Not sure yet but if I see more come of this with more details I'll plop it in here

[wicked jungle]

you are an angel 🥺

[signal hull]

True true. I don't have issues with it online, but just irl. My interests lol like romance n slice of life comics ngl LOL I don't like super hero movies. I'm getting into DnD 😎 bc my friends

[wicked jungle]

ugh i wish more irl people were interested in dnd or tabletop games ._.

[vast jacinth]

reminding me what a bubble I'm living in in seattle

[gloomy tendon]

Im a bit late but this is so relatable!! The ace experience is quite something

[wicked jungle]

but i guess outgoing people who adopt my irl introverted ass arent into stayign home and playing tabletop games for hours haha... ha...

[gloomy tendon]

I find lgbt+ friends difficult to find because often they're v extroverted and I'm very shy

[vast jacinth]

every town here has gaming cafes & there's so much table top community, I forget half the time it's not normal anywhere else

[signal hull]

I think many people are interested but struggling to find people to get into it with. I was fortunate enough to have my DM friend to invite me huhuhu. I didn't get the chance to make a queer bard, but next time 😎

[rustic drum]

I have a group of people I play with and I've found that I've slowly whittled the group down to the more introverted-leaning friends because they're more likely to stay in on weekends like me XD

[wicked jungle]

serial romantic and in love with tapas here, drop your faves 👀 👀 👀

[tight inlet]

If you're bi I've really loved the Ambi group. I imagine it varies a lot based on the local branch but that's a good way to meet folks. Or checking out if there's a nearby lgbtq center/meetup/etc. The meetup app is good for those once safe to do so.

Sorry if that's out of the blue just popped in and didn't read all the above stuff

Currently waiting for AAA bc I've locked myself out of my car which is homophobic of me

[signal hull]

Yeah you really just gotta find it! I even joined a club for it, but I admit I struggle to vibe with the members a little bc sometimes the vibe make me uncomfortable 😅 like I feel low-key unsafe with hetero people ngl. Or at least uncomfortable. Actually hetero men

[wicked jungle]

omg same

i even really like the dnd culture in this server but they areso experienced??? and just allknowing??? and i'm just like "haha, dragon, dovahkiin"

gosh i hate myself 😂

[tight inlet]

Yeah the key is to find a good group. The campus one I joined was initially only headed by cishet white gay men despite membership being very diverse and a lot of folks were going unheard so it eventually got fixed. You just have to find folks that vibe with ya and what you're looking for

[vast jacinth]

nah, toxic gaming nerd culture's a huge problem, it's not you

[rustic drum]

Well if you ever find a group and have questions you're welcome to DM me Marmy! I try to be helpful XD

[gloomy tendon]

My uni group sounds nice but this semester made it hard to connect with people

[wicked jungle]

find a group? o.o

i dont do decisions or friendfinding q-q

very appropriate 😂

[tight inlet]

You should try a little if you can, people need people we're wired for it, community fosters growth and learning and confidence. I promise it gets easier the more you do it

[signal hull]

I'm trying to learn to DM so I can create such a group lol

[vast jacinth]

yeah, it's a dissassociative mood for me more than anything by now: accepting that imposter syndrome & insecurity are pretty universal constants of the human condition

[wicked jungle]

idk it's just fear and overthinking that makes me uncomfortable to be private with anybody anymore, i can try but the legit panic of conversing outside of open communities is something i can not explain although i'd wish it was possible

[rustic drum]

One of my d&d folks was commenting on the "PC Changes" one of the newer books made to a setting, and listed out potential love interests for Strahd (big bad evil dude) and some of them were men gasp.
And I was like "awww bi icon let's go" and he didn't know what to say to that XD

[wicked jungle]

irrational fears rock - not ;-;

[vast jacinth]

but I present pretty heteronormative, so a lot less risky for me than some others

[wicked jungle]

reminds me of people sending some openly supportive internet personas stuff like "say xyz rocks" and they are just so innocently confused ;-;

it's so pure and precious and kinda sad, lgbt education has to go a long way

[signal hull]

HuH there's DnD in this server? I scrolled up to read and am confused now XD

[dark patio]

#🎲tabletop-and-boardgames would be the place to go if you want to look for more D&D conversations!

[wicked jungle]

i wonder where the dnd overlords went tho

[rustic drum]

We had overlords?

[wicked jungle]

idk but dante sure was one (for me since he's be the one) who'd post whole stories of dnd campaigns i'd spend hours reading throughout my day since they(?) would comment outside of my timezone

[tight inlet]

The only way social anxiety has gotten better for me is to work on the root causes, examine and unearth those, then do the things I'm afraid of and it's a cycle of positive reinforcement. If you go in giving yourself permission to bail if it gets too uncomfortable you'll usually have enough time to check it out and then after, regardless of outcome, you can examine and see what did/didn't work about the space/event for you

[rustic drum]

Ohhhh that's so right I haven't seen them in a while

[tight inlet]

And then when you have a really good experience you remember that for the next time and it builds that confidence and the let's try new things!

[rustic drum]

That's lovely!

[wicked jungle]

i mean they did talk 2 days ago but nothing close to the big campaigns, i hope they are well, and if they are busy that they dont overwork themselves

only the best for DanteTheDragon :c

[rustic drum]

Oh haha ok maybe i haven't been around as much then XD
I hope so too!

[wicked jungle]

that's true but it's good to see you back more ^^

[rustic drum]

I've missed chatting here!

[wicked jungle]

but yeah about social anxiety: it's only in private situations, groups are sooo no issues but private gatherings or even private messages? i get panicky af to the point of getting fucking panick attacks (probably trauma because of an ex and a few ex friends of mine :))) )

[tight inlet]

Oh I'm the exact opposite ope

[wicked jungle]

talking here? sib i'll gladly do that for hours.
working as teach? i'm happiest can be
but if i have just one student or compadre to talk to? i'ma flee

(unless that student needs extra help, then professional mom mode turns on)

[wicked jungle]

and i missed you ;o;

[rustic drum]

Oh I'm so sorry! In person I'm the opposite, if there's more than 1 person my anxiety starts doing a chart climb as more people are added. Online is kind of whatever for me, I can do private or group chats - though depending on the vibe I can still be a bit.. skittish? Haha. But I do sympathize with that anxiety life

[wicked jungle]

has been a while since you blessed us with your art too, so i hope you're doing well, drawing to your heart's content ;o;

[rustic drum]

Aww thank you!! 🥺 been drawing still just nothing I thought was worth sharing XD goofy things mostly hahaha

[wicked jungle]

yeah that skittish i truly feel with
once the vibes turn off, i just cannot... and i'm sorry to all whom i stopped talking to, it's just hard

[rustic drum]

I still need to finish my Zarah drawing 👀 been in my WIP pile for a while

[signal hull]

I'mi fool people into thinking I'm okay 😎 I get really self conscious in groups plus over analytical. Even small groups got me questioning, but in the outside I just seem either energetic or quiet depending on the group vibe huhuhu

[rustic drum]

Masker of disguise 😎

[wicked jungle]

but it's also because i'm scared of getting too private too quick and those private people (who most oftenly are close to me) somehow getting in contact with my fam or my surrounding and outing me without wanting too since i seem so loud and out about my identity

there were too many close calls and i'm just terrified.

[signal hull]

Heh of course I'm queer 😎

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-am-i-mask-glitch-glitchy-rainbow-gif-16193614

only mask that wasnt a facemask sorry xd

but kinda on theme 💃

[rustic drum]

I do feel that though. ❤️

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hug-u-want-hug-you-want-hug-gif-15597747

[rustic drum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hug-back-hug-notice-me-attention-to-me-gif-14227401

[wicked jungle]

hugs (and fingerguns if you dont like contact) for everyone

the reaction game is strong among you two 😂

[rustic drum]

Hahahaha I was gonna say!!😂

[wicked jungle]

why is it a 👉 👈 now 😂

[signal hull]

Fuhuhuhu I've done the dumbest things with reactions 😎

[rustic drum]

Idk why this is making me laugh so hard

[signal hull]

👁️👄👁️?

[dry swift]

See, you are a cat

[wicked jungle]

i am void

with big eyes

[dry swift]

I see no difference

[wicked jungle]

RenvierMel you lurking legend oml 🤣

[signal hull]

From kekeflipnote

[rustic drum]

Ok so confession I've been at work this whole time. I officially need to focus and actually do work 😂 I'll talk to yall later~

[wicked jungle]

oh my 👀 have fun while working!!

[twilit lake]

However, by deducing with solid detective skills. Unofficially you can still be as distracted as everyone else!

[civic shadow]

Hi im vegan

I'm kidding lol just pan

[ornate depot]

If a vegan does crossfit, which do they talk about first?

[tacit horizon]

Is Crossfit still a common thing? I haven't heard of it in years, but then again I don't hang around many fitness buffs haha

[proper knot]

ok guys, gals and non binary pals

do you need to be made more queer?
or otherwise just need an excuse to sing?

as I have a gift for those that haven't seen it, and a joy for those who have

[tacit horizon]

Never need an excuse to sing here hahaha

[proper knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAWrq4-4ir4

be sated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1pjMbHGjG0
this was also quality tbh

thoughts, comments, complaints?

[twilit lake]

It took a few hours, but I solved it! They'll bang on about them owning vegan barbells

Steel is very vegan or so I heard

[proper knot]

oh

[twilit lake]

Have not seen this thing you just linked, but does look entertaining

Granted, making covers and will Ferrell is not the first thing which springs into my mind at any given time

[quartz panther]

gah i love the color purple im so glad i got pioneer WOO

purple radiates pansexual energy to me idk why

[wicked jungle]

royalty, asexualism, bisexualism and enby-ness
purple truly is a wonderful color

[sterile thistle]

AYO PRIDE MONTH IS IN THREE DAYS WHAT THE F-

[harsh knot]

my power grows, soon i shall unleash my pride and wrath

[vast jacinth]

I'm envious

too lazy for all that

[supple brook]

A trans woman won Germany's next top model and it makes my heart so warm <3

[iron escarp]

that is very good news

[brisk wagon]

omg really ^_^ that awesome

[sterile thistle]

that's great!

[supple brook]

She's STUNNING and I'm so happy for her!

[iron escarp]

such icon energy😌

[pure oxide]

okay but real talk, she's friggin' gorgeous

[brisk wagon]

wish i could pass that well -_-

[wicked jungle]

reading about her - poor babe was unsure of herself being beautiful 🥺
i hope she got all the love, truly a gorgeous and real icon

[waxen hare]

HONESTLY

[iron escarp]

oh my god yes

hehe little hooded friends

[wicked jungle]

they all are void ft very stylish hoods/hats

[harsh knot]

I wanna be the abyss, can I be the abyss?

[waxen hare]

ofc!!

[brazen willow]

counter point tho

[waxen hare]

that is such a valid counterpoint!!!

[iron escarp]

i mean both of these can be true at the same time

[waxen hare]

the void wizards are just slimes in a cape

[brazen willow]

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

[wicked jungle]

void wizards are good tarrs?

cause gosh tarrs are so beautiful but their chomp is too strong 😩

[brazen willow]

yep!

well tarrs

[wicked jungle]

dark holographic chomp babies 🥺

[brazen willow]

Mhm

[iron escarp]

man i sure am having mixed feelings abt pride month being here super soon from now

like on one hand this should be a time to stand up for our rights and celebrate 'how far we've come'

but on the other hand i feel like im only seeing exclusion and fighting as of late

like at this point i've been considering neopronouns of some kind (my native language isnt that accomodating, the gender neutral pronoun is v similar to our feminine one)

and i just feel like its constantly made fun of and invalidated, especially if it goes beyond the "acceptable" aka at this point more widely known neopronouns, which will most likely be the case for me

since xe and ze sound too close to feminine pronouns in my native language as well

like the seeing all nonbinary identities be boiled down to not just being a third gender, but also infantalised to a degree is so not it

im sick of parts of idenities im part of being seen as childish or stupid/dumb

[pure oxide]

I think sometimes taking a break from social media can help a lot with getting a better perspective. Sometimes we think there's so much "negativity" or "fighting" going on when we're so immersed and only seeing that small picture. Maybe take a break from that side of Twitter or TikTok and give yourself a detox for a few days before you dive back into that side, come at it with fresh eyes.

[iron escarp]

i mean the problem is that i wouldnt be able to not see it without giving up the whole platform until it calms down with how pervasive it is

like i cant even just scroll through anywhere without seeing it in one way or another

plus a lot of this stuff probably still very much would continue if i were to celebrate pride outside of an online space(taking corona out of the case that is)

i just wish i didnt have to feel this sad and like have to feel so negatively abt my identity because of how its looked at and how that view affects me so deeply

[pure oxide]

I'm sorry. 😦

[iron escarp]

i mean at least i have this channel where i know i'll be accepted, so i do appreciate that point of light

[civic shadow]

Thanks mom

[pure oxide]

❤️

[runic rampart]

I volunteer to be everyone's spinster aunt

[twilit lake]

Very important to constantly carry a spinning wheel just to emphasize this

Much better than being a looming presence though, as dragging a loom around every day seems rough

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-loomer-meme-minecraft-loom-gaming-gif-17395482

[twilit lake]

Minecraft permeating everything in existence of course

[wicked jungle]

it was just the perfect gif, forgive me 😂

[twilit lake]

Perfectly suitable of course

Be it a spinster or a loomer, all deserve hugs

[wicked jungle]

awww, you're being a softie ;w;

dont forget fingerguns for those who dont like hugs fingerguns

[twilit lake]

The logistics of hugs certainly become more complicated when meeting someone in a cactus suit

[quartz panther]

Im only gonna say this once about neopronouns and more if people try to argue
Yall valid

Also shlee thanks for becoming my mom, my mom told me all my books are wrong when i tried explaining how lgbt studies were destroyed in raids and religious burnings, (i didnt say which religions cause she wouldng believe her religion did anything evil) but like come on

[signal hull]

I just want to say that the loudest voices don't always represent the majority! If y'all are seeing a lot of fighting, I think it's healthy to mentally take a step away and breathe. Then, just realize that people online have a lot more nerve to say stuff behind their phone screen

[quartz panther]

She told me this in person in the car

[pearl sleet]

DEMI LOVATO CAME OUT AS NONBINARY LETS GOOOOOOO

[civic shadow]

I personally feel as though she did it for attention. Her reasoning was because she wants people to feel comfortable coming out, which is great. But it's not something she has been struggling with all her life. I feel as though it's misrepresentation.

[cosmic basin]

I don't think you should be invalidating them

[dark patio]

I didn’t really go looking, but I think it’s not the best course of action to, from the outside looking in, declare that someone hasn’t struggled with dysphoria to an extent said outsider believes is the proper amount. No one knows what is truly going on in the inner world or another person.

[quartz panther]

if it's as the identify who are we to tell them they're wrong or think it's just for attention we want to be valid just as much as Demi does

Euphoria is a better way to find out if your NB or trans than Dysphoria because dysphoria is not measurable

[pure oxide]

Let's maybe not gatekeep people and their identities or try to say that they have to suffer X amount in order to come out maybe?

That's like saying Elliot Page didn't suffer enough either, or isn't valid.

[civic shadow]

I was just stating my opinion. Elliot Page is an amazing person and I love them.

[calm shell]

even if that's what you theorise, you won't ever know so misgendering them isn't okay and theorising about their personal life isn't okay

[pure oxide]

Because he also didn't have to suffer or live a life of unacceptance or whatever you think he should've gone through in order to get there. At the end of the day, that's not your call.

[dark patio]

Maybe they haven’t struggled with it all their life. Or maybe they have and they’ve only recently realized that this wording is what is applicable to their life experience and have had that relief that, finally, they have a reason and a name for this distress they’ve been feeling.

[pure oxide]

Elliot is male, he goes by he/him\

[dark patio]

Him.

[pure oxide]

Demi is nonbinary, they go by they/them.

Respect someone's pronouns, whether you respect them or not. Caitlin Jenner is a piece of garbage, but she's still she.

[quartz panther]

Fuck caitlyn jenner she deserves no respect

[cosmic basin]

I couldn't have put it any better

[pure oxide]

You're right. But she's still she, whether you like her as a person or not.

[dark patio]

Frankly, no one deserves an opinion on someone else’s gender.

[graceful geyser]

actually he uses he/they

[civic shadow]

I didn't mean to misgender Demi. That was just habit and my bad.

[sage wren]

That’s what I thought too, was just about to point that out.

[pure oxide]

Also, if you watched the biography mini-series Demi did on youtube, you'd see that this is something they actually HAVE been struggling with their entire life

[calm shell]

ah okay thats fine if it's just an accident. demi has spoken out about body issues before though and that could show signs of dysmorphia, but even if that wasn't public you can never know someone's life so it's a bit invalidating

[pure oxide]

On top of the eating disorders, terrible mismanagement, life as a child actor in Hollywood, etc.

[quartz panther]

quit using your personal dislike of demi to invalidate them and their struggles please

[dark patio]

And frankly, someone being excited at having representation shouldn’t be met with “actually I don’t think it’s enough and I don’t believe-“ while misgendering the person who is now representation and someone is very clearly happy about.

Alex was happy about representation. That was mean.

[quartz panther]

yeah

[civic shadow]

I don't dislike them???

[sage wren]

I’m thrilled Demi is out about their gender identity bc that means there’s someone else like me in mainstream media now. They are open about their struggles too which is super validating.

[calm shell]

can you understand why your comment was rude and out of place though? it wasn't a great thing to say

[pure oxide]

This is about to sound really mean, but your personal feelings about someone's gender identity or coming out mean literally nothing, and we might want to go back to a time where we got our life advice from movies like Bambi

https://tenor.com/view/truth-if-you-cant-say-something-nice-dont-say-anything-at-all-rabbit-bunny-gif-15861799

[sage wren]

Being an openly non-binary, queer person in a conservative Kansas town is terrifying, but seeing more popular artists out makes me feel like I’m slowly becoming more “normal.”

[quartz panther]

i understand cthulu, as a trans queer girl stuck living with her unaccepting parents cause i have disabilities and can't live on my own, seeing people like elliot page or other trans vtubers and twitch streamers has helped me a lot with feeling comfortable and feeling safe even in an unsafe enviroment

im slowly learning to stand up for myself and hopefully soon i'll find my place to live

[civic shadow]

Look, I never meant to invalidate anyone or misgender Demi. Like I said it was habit and my bad. From just the one article I read, that's what I gathered. Maybe I should've done more research or something and that's on me.

[quartz panther]

we dropped the topic please stop we accept your apology move on
well i accept your apology

[wicked jungle]

we all are human we always make mistakes, thanks for seeing what yours might have been

[civic shadow]

I'm sorry I didn't know we moved on yet..

[wicked jungle]

lets all make an effort to educate ourselves better

[dark patio]

The problem is that you came in on top of someone else’s excitement to gatekeep. Please be more mindful in the future.

[calm shell]

thanks for acknowledging it, i didn tthink we had moved on either its okay

[wicked jungle]

i mean we can move on now that the apology and aknowledging has been done?

but that might be just my feelings because i dont see the use to drill into somebody after they've apologized ;w,

anyways i got an enby goose if somebody wants to loosen up the situation?

if not that's really cool, respect to yall ;w;

[calm shell]

no i agree, i think enough has been said for them to understand wherre they went wrong. omg what! that sounds amazing pls share

[quartz panther]

enby goose? thats what my boyfriend was before he accepted himself as trans

[sage wren]

My in-laws are extremely conservative, and the only people I’m not out to, but my husband has been nothing but supportive. I only recently came out as enby a couple months ago, and I was so scared. I’m very “femme-passing” because I’m well endowed and wear makeup, and I feel invalidated by that a lot. But seeing communities like these that would shank a bitch in defense of us makes me so hopeful for the future.

[wicked jungle]

he was a goose???

[quartz panther]

he's called goose, he's my goose boyfriend

[wicked jungle]

ohhh

that makes sense ;w; sorry i fforget sometimes that nicknames exist

[civic shadow]

You callin me a bitch?

[quartz panther]

lmao y'all good

[civic shadow]

I'm kidding btw

[wicked jungle]

enby goose 🤘

[civic shadow]

It is nice to see such a support group of people

[sage wren]

😂😂 not at all! Just in general, against the people who are v transphobic.

[dark patio]

I’m transmasc nb, and literally no one irl for me does a damn thing to try to respect that, so seeing other people stand to defend enby folks makes me so happy

[sage wren]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-thief-steal-yoink-take-out-gif-17356971

[wicked jungle]

somebody once posted an ace/aro goose like that and i've seen that one afterwards and just thought of it as perfect haha

[civic shadow]

I used to think I was ace but now I think I'm just demi? (Lol ironic)

[quartz panther]

demi kin? /jk
also pls don't get angry i 100% respect otherkins

[wicked jungle]

demi baguette 🇫🇷 /j

[sage wren]

Idk what I am. I know I’m Pan but I don’t feel a lot of strong sexual attraction towards many people? Just, like, certain people.

[quartz panther]

panromantic asexual or demisexual?

[pure oxide]

I consider myself demi/graysexual panromantic

[civic shadow]

Same!

[quartz panther]

it's funny cause i'm the complete opposite as a pansexual demiromantic, i'm attracted to everyone but i definitely won't date everyone

[pure oxide]

sex is really a non-factor for me. I'm not averse to it, but I don't really... seek it out often? And I don't feel super sexual attraction to people without actually... liking them romantically.

[wicked jungle]

depends on the "certain people" i'd say :)

[calm shell]

im really not a fan of labels so im just me 😁

[pure oxide]

But I fall in love with a LOT of people, LOL

[civic shadow]

Moood

[quartz panther]

same shlee, it's easy to fall in love and it sucks

[wicked jungle]

you can be pan and homosexual and/or whatever fits more to ya

[dark patio]

I’m grey-ace pan, currently in a mlm relationship

[sage wren]

I think that fits me. I fall in love with EVERYONE but only v certain people “turn me on.”

[dark patio]

My boyfriend calls me gay regularly and it’s very affirming lmao

[sage wren]

And lady Dimetrescu but she’s in a league of her own 👀👀

[wicked jungle]

nb ace panromantic blob of void ;w;

[pure oxide]

I'm married in a hetero relationship and we're monogamous, and I'm super happy, but being in my relationship doesn't negate my identities either.

[civic shadow]

Of course not

[quartz panther]

lady dimetrescu is like, an icon who i wish would choke me

[sage wren]

I’m in a hetero relationship but I’m v gay most of the time 😂

[pure oxide]

saaaaaaaaame

[dark patio]

I’m in a poly relationship, my boyfriend has another partner, and we’re friends

[pure oxide]

-files away new information-

[cosmic basin]

Same here ooooop

[calm shell]

is ti just me that really doesn't like the use of people describing my relationship as straight/heterosexual? like im female presenting but im nb and im in no way straight and neither is my partner so when people say im in a straight relationship i feel like it really doesn't describe it

[sage wren]

I want to be that vanity from the phone call scene

[supple brook]

Same

[quartz panther]

i'd call it a queer relationship, all my relationships i consider queer cause i'm transfemme

[dark patio]

Which is how it should be, really, but just clarifying that I am not also in a relationship with my boyfriend’s other partner lol

[pure oxide]

I mean, 'straight-passing' or 'hetero-passing' just means that like... if people looked at you two, they'd just assume you were hetero, and afford you the (unfortunate) privilege that comes with it, but yes.

[wicked jungle]

that's ok tho, not everybody feels comfortable/needs to have labels attached to themselves

[dark patio]

Poly should be at minimum friendship between the people who are not romantically involved imo

[wicked jungle]

the only thing i would personally say would be important to know which pronouns to use for ya

[pure oxide]

But also like, you can label it how you like or not label it at all, whatever you're comfortable.

[wicked jungle]

so we dont accidentally are rude to your identity

[pure oxide]

Agreed

[calm shell]

yeah i understand accepting the privilege that comes with it, the term just feels very invalidating to me

[pure oxide]

I'm sorry. 😦

[supple brook]

Anyone's open to describe their relationship how they want but like. I'm queer as fuck. If I were in a relationship with a guy I would still be queer as fuck. The term is used to invalidate bi and pan women especially so so so often and it sucks

[sage wren]

THIS. I’m Pan and enby, but I was born female, and my male partner is cis and straight as hell. We’re privileged in that sense.

[wicked jungle]

you are in a relationship with your partner. nothing else should matter :c sorry that's happening to you

[calm shell]

definitely!!

[civic shadow]

What is enby?

[dark patio]

Non-binary

[civic shadow]

Oooh

[supple brook]

Nonbinary, just the short form cause nb

[wicked jungle]

the lovefrogs are taking over 😂

[civic shadow]

Turn the freaking frogs gay?

[wicked jungle]

always bub

[sage wren]

I’m queer as fuck, and always will be. My husband respects that so much, but he hasn’t always bc he was raised conservative-Christian.

[calm shell]

yeah i know, i think its a lot of internalised shit that feels like if people call me straight-passing then it removes all my other identities and the struggles i've been through because of them, i find it hard to describe. i think my aversion to labels has a play in it and also interactions with lesbians who don't see me as gay enough, if that makes sense. all i know is i go by they/them pronouns, im not completely straight or gay, i'm not completely male or female, and that's all i need to know haha

[sage wren]

I want to open a gay bar called A.J.’s Frog Farm

[civic shadow]

😭

[sage wren]

Froggy themed

[calm shell]

i just think in the lgbtq+ community theres way too much gatekeeping! i think it's a huge problem

[wicked jungle]

hence why this community is just amazing: everybody is always ready to learn and protect...
you are being accepted for your identity with no "if, what, why, but"s, kinda cute and precious of yall

[civic shadow]

No you're cute

[sage wren]

Oh that is 100% true. Gate keeping in the alphabet mafia is insane and incredibly invalidating. You would think it wouldn’t be with how much people in our community have suffered already, but we perpetuate it a lot unfortunately.

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/narpy-cute-calculating-ur-cute-you-are-cute-gif-14867200

[civic shadow]

Omg I can't

[wicked jungle]

alphabet... mafia...
WHAT OTHER NAMES HAVE I BEEN MISSING OUT ON

[sage wren]

I watch far too much TikTok 😂😂

[rustic drum]

I say alphabet soup because I really like soup 👀

[sage wren]

Another of my faves

[rustic drum]

And then it became "soup friends" XD

[calm shell]

definitely! i love it

[civic shadow]

Isn't it kinda weird that my mom has gay friends who are literally married and have a baby but she thinks gay people are gross?

[wicked jungle]

i'm just imagining us all swimming (in a yellow submarine) in tomato soup ;-;

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-evolving-just-backwards-gif-21647112

[sage wren]

One of my best friends’ moms is like that and the friend is bi as fuck.

[wicked jungle]

my mom is the biggest fan of an openly lesbian singer
she still thinks that anything non-cis or -straight are mental illnesses that can be "cured"

[rustic drum]

It's common, and then they say "I'm not homophobic, my friend is gay!" /gag

[sage wren]

Jesus Christ I’m so glad my mom is cool

[civic shadow]

And anything on TV we're watching that shows queer anything she has to go out of her way to say "eww" or "gross"

[wicked jungle]

reminds me of this sh'tfest

"what is homophobic about thinking gay is gross???" i mean you may wanna return that brain/sense of logic of yours BUT DO YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF 🥲

actually they may listen to only themselves for too long nvm....

[civic shadow]

My older sister once told my mom that she liked a girl (like 10 years ago when she was 13) and my mom got super pissed, screamed at her a lot, and she wasn't allowed to talk to the girl again. Pretty sure she got scared into straightness.

[wicked jungle]

i really wanted to watch "The Mitchells vs the Machines" with my mom cause watching good animated movies is our shit buT OH WELL
or recommend them Brooklyn 99 cause it's just glorious and living next to two very depressing negative pools of void is kinda sad and brooklyn 99 is funny and they would totally benefit from GOOD F'CKING SERIES' buT OH WELL

[calm shell]

AW the mitchells vs the machines was so good

[wicked jungle]

lol i got beaten for having not-straight seeming friends

[civic shadow]

Jesus

[wicked jungle]

tbf two of the five were gay and i had my second gay kiss with one of them but oh well

[rustic drum]

I'm sorry Marmy that's awful

[wicked jungle]

my whole life is just "oh well" 😂

it's ok, i'm getting over it with alot of internalized homophobia and humor and fingerguns fingerguns

[rustic drum]

Get that captioned on an embroidery in ace colors hahhaa

[wicked jungle]

will do fingerguns

[rustic drum]

😭 👉 👉

[wicked jungle]

NOO HAPPY MAY NOT CRY

HOW TO UNDO TEARS D:

[civic shadow]

Yay abuse. I have a fear of anger because whenever my mom got angry it was usually followed by being hit

[rustic drum]

Lemme talk to them, just to talk
I can't talk and type at the same time ajzbsjanna

[wicked jungle]

huh?

😂

who is them and what kinda talk do you wish to have 👀 👀

[rustic drum]

The ones that hurt you Marmy 😅 definitely a pleasant talk

[wicked jungle]

oh lol

i dont know how to respond to that 😅

i'm trying to think of witty things to say, help 😂

[rustic drum]

Oh no hahahaha

[wicked jungle]

my humor is failing me, shutting down 😂

[rustic drum]

~awkward subject change~ My not very accepting mom called Elliot Page by Elliot and that was VERY surprising

I almost spat. I'm not completely sure if it was a mistake but I will take any small victory XD

[civic shadow]

Yaaay progress

[wicked jungle]

~awkward subject change success~ whaaat, that's interestng

reminds me of trans youtubers giving people wrong deadnames just to see the transphobes in the comments squirm in fake victory

[rustic drum]

Right? She shuts down with direct talk, so I've been just lacing my conversations with affirming type of talk and i think maaaaybe it's working??? I don't know...

[wicked jungle]

"they may not know, but they just supported me ;D"

[rustic drum]

Omg XD

[wicked jungle]

Happy making the world happier one affirming talk at a time ✊

[rustic drum]

Hahhaa wooo 🥳

[civic shadow]

If anyone is ever feeling sad, ping me and I'll send bird pictures.

[wicked jungle]

i mean i'm sad now wishing the best for Kipper ;o;

[civic shadow]

Sorry lol

[wicked jungle]

dont be sorry ;o;

[civic shadow]

Oh and anyone who is worried about misgendering me, I don't really mind what you call me. She, he, they, it; whatever tickles your fancy

[vast jacinth]

same

[pearl sleet]

Whew what a backlog to read

[vast jacinth]

like I don't identify with characteristically male / female cultures enough to own either but nor do I set myself apart from them in preferring something more neutral. really don't have a pronoun for me, whatever works well enough

[civic shadow]

Yeah like I just do what I do, i like what i like. Doesn't have to be specific or anything

[pearl sleet]

Thats fair

Oh oh! I have good news! I ordered some really pretty earrings yesterday and im going to get my ears pierced in my next paycheck so i can wear them.

Theyre gonna make me feel so fabulous about being nonbinary

[civic shadow]

Yaaaaay

I used to have my ears pierced years ago but apparently my ears are really sensitive to I didnt have them in for long.

Then I tried again a year later and yeah no not for me. Sometimes i wish I could but its whatever. I do want a lip piercing tho

[pearl sleet]

Aw dang that sucks
Do yall wanna see the earrings?

[civic shadow]

Of couurseee

[vast jacinth]

sounds good

[pearl sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827665964328812556/847324495110078495/il_1140xN.png

[vast jacinth]

ooh iridescent, my wife'd be jealous of the rainbows

[lofty imp]

I like those

[pearl sleet]

I love them

[lofty imp]

Where did you get them? I wanna get them for my wife as a gift, if possible

[pearl sleet]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/980022271/2-kaeya-earrings-genshin-impact-a-pair-2?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=kaeya+earring&ref=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1&frs=1&bes=1

Theyre also hypoallergenic so they should be good for 99% of people

It is a bit embarrassing to share that theyre genshin but they are just so gorgeous and are gonna make me feel so incredible about being nonbinary

[vast jacinth]

eh, media often exists to inspire, doesn't really matter where that came from, what it looks like to non fans will just be pretty

[pearl sleet]

I suppose

[civic shadow]

Super pretty!

[supple brook]

Oh I love those Alex!!!

Kaeyas dangly earrings are chef's kiss

[pearl sleet]

Yessss theyre incredible and are just gonna make me feel incredible aaaa i cant wait for them to come in

[supple brook]

Where are you getting your ears pierced if you don't mind me asking? Not like. The actual store obviously just like, at a piercer?

[pearl sleet]

Theres a local tattoo and piercings shop
Not claires or anything

[supple brook]

Oh yeah good that's what I was wondering :D

[pearl sleet]

Yeah we dont have a claires around here
I was also informed that claires ppl arent trained correctly anyway

[calm shell]

if they use a piercing gun dont trust them lol

thats what claires does

[supple brook]

Yeeeeeah piercing guns are awful

[pearl sleet]

Yeah thats what i was told

Im so excitedddd

Im gonna feel so much more confident in how i look

[dark patio]

Hey guys ❤️ Might this conversation be better suited to a general chat?

[pearl sleet]

Well the whole point was about me being more confident and secure in my looks and identity but i guess?

[dark patio]

I saw that, but the shift to like, Claire’s ear piercings? I know I’ve had some experiences with those and wouldn’t mind sharing them, but that direction the conversation took is what made me wonder.

[pearl sleet]

Oops i didnt intend for that to come off passive aggressive i apologize

[dark patio]

It’s okay! ❤️ I don’t mind specifying what has me wondering about changing channels, and if we pull the tangent back around, it’s fine staying here

[pearl sleet]

Thats what i was intending to do with my last comment about being confident in looks vs identity

[dark patio]

But having your ears fucked up by mall piercing definitely isn’t a solely lgbt experience 😂

[dark patio]

Totally fair!

[civic shadow]

Thats probably why mine got fucked up lolololol I got them done at Claire's

[pearl sleet]

I've been having issues with how I look really masculine even though im nonbinary

[dark patio]

My boyfriend got me a pair of Calcifer earrings for Christmas and I love them, but I feel way too feminine wearing earrings to really wear them often

[pearl sleet]

I would love to feel more feminine

Trade me problens please

[twilit lake]

I can only offer the twigs I have stuck in my hair sorry

[pearl sleet]

I love wearing jewelry it makes me feel more feminine

[dark patio]

I wear rings a lot more than I wear earrings, cause those manage to not hit my dysphoria. I have a really pretty silver ring based on a favorite character from a book and so, even though it looks kinda feminine, it’s based on a male character and so doesn’t bug me

I also have worn a necklace every day for like… three years?

It was a Christmas present from my boyfriend. Replicas of Wolverine’s dog tags, and Wolverine is the character I was projecting hard onto when my boyfriend and I met

[civic shadow]

I don't like things moving around on my skin (excluding clothes of course) so I really cant wear jewelry

I have so many rainbow things to show my gayness 😭

[vast jacinth]

I feel the same there too, even my wedding ring gets worn on my chain wallet...wife's not super thrilled by that, but it's personalized enough to be a non-issue

[wicked jungle]

always coming back to this 🌈 soft raptor noises

[twilit lake]

Somehow this amuses me more considering jurassic world was on tv like two days ago

[signal hull]

CALCIFER WOOO

Nice earrings. I wish I could pull them off, but at the same time I feel accessories don't suit me as a guy ;_;

[tight inlet]

Accessories are for everybody

[pure oxide]

Agreed.

[signal hull]

Yeah I definitely agree, but internalized norms n stuff are hard to unprogram :/

[pearl sleet]

And ofc some arent comfortable!
I showed some of my coworkers the earrings and they didn't even bat an eye that a susoposed guy was gonna wear earrings
Theyre both somewjat older ladies too.
They both said that theyre super pretty
I lve them sm

I was kinda expecting a situation like what happened with one of my old friends mom
She said boys cant wear makeup

Like
Ma'am
Have you ever seen a movie?

[vast jacinth]

or studied history

[dark patio]

Accessories are for everyone but big mood with some feeling like they don’t suit you. So many cute accessories I have feel like very feminine accessories and it’s like… damn my brain’s gonna be rude about this

[pearl sleet]

She said that bc i expressed a want to wear some mascara and eyeliner for our dance recital because it was gonna make me look bomb af

[dark patio]

I’ve got a set of earrings that look like Wolverine is through my ears, another that’s Deadpool, some Skyrim sweet rolls, the door to Bag End, and I wear like none of them

Also makeup is also for everyone

[pure oxide]

Even those of us who suck at it OTL

[radiant tundra]

Gender norms are dumb in general, wear and dress how you want

[dark patio]

I kinda miss wearing eyeliner, for some reason that made me feel more masc

[pearl sleet]

I know!! I grew up in a family of women
It was normal for me to test makeup for my girl cousins and friends

[pure oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/ouat-captain-hook-colin-o-donoghue-stare-gif-5929531

[dark patio]

probably cause of my teenage goth boy phase

[pearl sleet]

And I looked fabulous

[pure oxide]

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with dudes looking like that in eyeliner right?

[dark patio]

Oh, no, I like Shlee’s reason better lol

[radiant tundra]

Blessed image Shlee

[pure oxide]

God that man is so hot.

[pearl sleet]

I will refrain from commenting lest i get in trouble

[pure oxide]

XD

[pearl sleet]

I will say
He is very hot

[dark patio]

God I wish I looked like Colin O’Donoghue

[pearl sleet]

Is that Johnny Depp? He looks like Johnny Depp a bit

[radiant tundra]

Honestly as much as gender norms are dumb, I wish I knew how to appear more masc sometimes

[pure oxide]

I don't even want to be a man but hard same.

[pearl sleet]

Nope nvm not johnny depp xd

[dark patio]

lmao he is playing a pirate there though!

[pure oxide]

Colin O'Donighue, played Captain Hook in once upon a time

[dark patio]

That’s him as Hook

[pearl sleet]

If he winked at me I would melt

[pure oxide]

God. Dang. He's just...

[dark patio]

yeah

[pure oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/hook-funny-once-ouat-scoundrel-gif-5564105

[pearl sleet]

Conspiracy to kidnap him?

[radiant tundra]

Oh my god, thank you for saying that. I was wracking my brain trying to think of where I know him from

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hook-ouat-once-upon-a-time-gif-9966019

[dark patio]

though, I’m gonna be real, my ideal body is more like Wolverine

[signal hull]

Don't mind me dumping overing 2d men

[dark patio]

I’m the right height and have dumb facial hair already.

[pearl sleet]

Anyway i digress
I was pleasantly surprised that my coworkers were not assholes

[dark patio]

I think my boyfriend would hate it if I grew mutton chops but someday I might just have to, if I ever do T

[pearl sleet]

Gender norms begone!

[dark patio]

Not sure if I ever will but maybe

[signal hull]

It's funny how some people want facial hair and I'm over here like 😭 get rid of mine. Damn hair

[radiant tundra]

Everyone is different about their hair and that’s okay!

[wicked jungle]

on one hand gender norms suck
on the other they help people find out what would make them seem more masc or feminine

[signal hull]

Yeah of course, but I'm just like grass is always greener on the other side 😅

[dark patio]

I have high testosterone anyway, so I grow a lil scruff

[pearl sleet]

That's true

[signal hull]

Pride month is almost here heheheh, but my new tablet doesn't come until June 5 :/

[radiant tundra]

Honestly I’m pretty sure same

[pearl sleet]

heteronormativity kills me though

[dark patio]

Which is GREAT for my own aesthetics but I get to deal with stuff like women having pointed conversations about shaving their own chin hairs

[signal hull]

Wanted to draw somethjng to celebrate but I guess I'll be late -.- but I swear I'll be drawing some hot dudes with accessories huhuhu

[dark patio]

Draw some pride month doodles!

[radiant tundra]

Oh it’s even more fun when societal norms make you self conscious about it

[signal hull]

Like I like how it looks, but does it feel awkward when you yourself try to pull it off? Me and them crop tops 😳 n them high waisted jeans

[dark patio]

That’s part of why I like masks tbh, I can hide my scruff without shaving.

[pearl sleet]

Same

[signal hull]

Me, but like my face in general 😄

Yet I still feel the full brunt of social anxiety 😎👍

[pearl sleet]

I look better when i shave though
When I was 16 and in a mental ward i couldnt shave and this little girl thought I was 20 like what :sob:

[pure oxide]

I wish people could just keep their damn hot takes and opinions to themselves

[signal hull]

Ngl clean shaven dudes are 🙈 to me

[pure oxide]

Like... ??? if I have facial hair or a side shave or whatever... why is that anyone's business? why should I care? begone

[pearl sleet]

Begone thots

[signal hull]

As in nice af

[dark patio]

I had to have a really awkward conversation with one of my doctors at one point, who I hadnt seen since I was a teen, and she was like “oh there’s things we can do for unwanted hair, like laser hair removal” and I just had to be like “uh… no I’m nonbinary I like my scruff”

[radiant tundra]

This just makes me think about the fact that I am thinking about shaving my legs again… on one hand, leg hair itchy… on the other I don’t owe anyone anything

[pearl sleet]

Do what you like its your body!

[dark patio]

I haven’t shaved my legs in years. It’s freeing to not worry about it

[pearl sleet]

Everyone but my mom calls me sir and my birth name and like
How do i tell these women in their 30s and up that i dont go by Jakob and that im not a sir without ruining relationships

[dark patio]

oof I wish I knew

[wicked jungle]

cant wait for swimming season to hit to feel the need to full-body shave :)))) /s

[dark patio]

Though!

[wicked jungle]

call them Jakob and Sir
assert reverse dominance, see how they like being referred as somebody who they arent

[radiant tundra]

This is why I don’t let my mother bully me into shaving

[pearl sleet]

Did i say something wrong?

[dark patio]

Alex is a very neutral name, you could just say “hey I’ve started going by Alex instead” and it doesn’t necessarily out you

[vast jacinth]

honestly with people like that choosing a new birth name isn't really met...better, in terms of perceived pretentiousness

[radiant tundra]

No no! Sorry, I didn’t mean to give off a bad tone. I meant more I try to keep to the thinking of “do what I like bc it’s my body” when my mom tries to get me to shave bc she thinks I have to

[dark patio]

It’s not really choosing a new birth name, it’s going by a new nickname

[pearl sleet]

Aaa I'm so nervous to
I introduced myself as Alex to one of the newer girls and because everyone else calls me my birth name she does tpo like i introduced myself as Alex please dont be a SHEEP

[wicked jungle]

a sheep?

[radiant tundra]

Oof

[pearl sleet]

Someone who follows what everyone else does

[wicked jungle]

following the horde?
yep i understand now

[pearl sleet]

Well i wanna change my name
I dont like my birth name
I cant stand to say it and idk why

[wicked jungle]

but honestly if everybody else calls you by your birthname wouldnt it be weird if only one newer person calls you alex?

[pure oxide]

Neither can I. 🙂

[dark patio]

And that’s valid but they don’t need to know that. All they need to know is you like to go by a new nickname

[pearl sleet]

Oh i see

[pure oxide]

But my family and most of the people I've met here in Germany call me by my birth name because my nickname is... not great for Germans anyway, and I've always just been Ashley to my family. It's not weird from them. But I really hate being called Ashley by friends.

[dark patio]

Don’t divulge any information that anyone doesn’t absolutely have to know about your gender. That’s the way I deal with it

[pearl sleet]

Should i tell them right now?

[pure oxide]

If you feel like it.

[radiant tundra]

Honestly, I feel glad that I picked a name kind of similar to my birth name and that my birth name doesn’t really bother me

But I also very much get when you introduce yourself as something and then people start calling you by your birth name when they learn it

[pearl sleet]

Also my therapists are concerned about me because I changed my name again
One of them told me that my friends are gonna leave me if I continue to change my name like
Wow
That was really rude
I mean its true but jesus christ

[dark patio]

It’s not

[signal hull]

I- wtf???

[radiant tundra]

It’s not true

[signal hull]

Therapist or abuser?

[radiant tundra]

If they leave you over that, they are not real friends

[pearl sleet]

Well shes normally really lovely but shes said some ick things

[dark patio]

Frankly, that’s bullshit. I’ve known my boyfriend by 5 different names, and I’ve adapted to each of them.

[wicked jungle]

i remember you saying that last time and again: they f'cking suck for saying that.

[pearl sleet]

Oh did i say that here already? Aaaa im so sorry

[dark patio]

Don’t apologize, it’s okay

[signal hull]

Honestly the idea of someone trusting you to not make fun of them for a name change is a lot of trust

[wicked jungle]

your friends like you for you and not just a name you plaster onto yourself.
your name should be making YOU comfortable

[pearl sleet]

Its just been really bothering g me lately because it was really mean

[wicked jungle]

dont be sorry! i'm just pissed that that happens to you and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[dark patio]

It was incredibly mean and also incredibly incorrect

[radiant tundra]

How can you even be a mental health professional and say crap like that honestly???

[wicked jungle]

how are they allowed to help people when being so rude

[pearl sleet]

And also idk why theyre concerned
Like
I changed gender
A lot of time name changes and gender changes go hand in hand

[vast jacinth]

because independent of modern concerns, people who changed their name a lot were very suspicious & untrustworthy people

[wicked jungle]

it's not like their "advice" or "concern" is even helping or valid

[vast jacinth]

historically it's a hallmark of conmen & the unstable

not modernly, don't get me wrong, it is a regressive view

[pearl sleet]

I like being Alex and being non binary
Theres no reason for concern
Both things are really comfortable to me so piss off (my therapists not u surprise)

[dark patio]

That’s just not how it is now, and frankly shouldn’t have come up in therapy. It was cruel that it did

[pearl sleet]

One of them, when she visited again for a session, asked if I still went by Alex or if i changed my name again
Like wow so funny making fun of me trying to be comfortable

[pure oxide]

The unfortunate truth is that a LOT of therapists are woefully lacking in practical knowledge with LGBT issues

[pearl sleet]

😭 idk im just kinda upset about it all like im trying to be comfortable with myself please leave me alone

[pure oxide]

And that a lot of therapists are kind of... set in what works for them and their own world view. Because at the end of the day... they're still another human being and humans aren't immune to biases and ignorance just because they're people in authority or who are well-educated.

My.. honest suggestion would be to look for another therapist that specializes in LGBT issues

[vast jacinth]

also people get into psychology for their own reasons. it's ironic really since their idea of the typical person they're least judgemental of should be least needing of those services

[pearl sleet]

Thanks
All of you
For all of your kind words
It truly means so much that i could cry here at work
Speaking of work ive been sitting down for way too long i gotta go do my job or I'll get in trouble

[radiant tundra]

My last therapist was a gem about being polite about my name. Granted, it helps that she had a child who is non-binary and my friend so she just double check with them on my preference

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMecvv1EM/

I would like to share this hear bc I love it a lot

[pearl sleet]

I have an appointment with my therapist who said the awful thing on Tuesday
I'm gonna talk to her about it

[vast jacinth]

good luck, but I'd be prepared to hear a lot of doubling down personally, still better said regardless of how they take it of course

[pearl sleet]

If it turns into an argument im going to ask her to leave

Shes reasonable though so im not expecting anything big

[vast jacinth]

yeah, it's a good test of the waters regardless on whether you should, I'd just expect a lot of "I say these things because I'm here to help you through problems" driven statements

hope it goes well though

[pearl sleet]

Thanks!

[pearl sleet]

Fun fact:
In Descendants 3, the guy who played Hades is actually gay and happily married

[waxen hare]

aah yes! he was in teen wolf too right??

[wicked jungle]

and in american horror story , i believe he even adopted kids if my insta knowledge about him doesnt let me down 🤔

[pearl sleet]

I have no clue about either of those two, but his makeup and hair in Descendants 3 was mwah

And yes I do believe he adopted a girl (dont quote me on that)

[civic shadow]

Me as a duck with my adopted babies cause sex is gross (I'm kidding btw do what you want lol)

[oak scarab]

so cute!!

[civic shadow]

I wish I still had the link for this maker!

Many options to choose from

[oak scarab]

i love the brush texture of it sm

[civic shadow]

The artist did a lovely job

[oak scarab]

^^absolutely

[pearl sleet]

BIG NEWS

Remember those coworkers I talked about earlier?
One of them listens to a band where there's a trans person mtf
And when she spoke about her she didn't say it like someone who thought it was weird or wrong
She spoke about it like it was normal
She did call her a he but the spirit is there!

She's 60. It felt really nice to hear an older person talk about trans folks like they're normal because they are and they're all valid

[dark patio]

Ah! I'm glad that she was nice about that!

[pearl sleet]

Me too. She did misgender her but that's okay because at least she's accepting 😌

It really did make me happy to hear that

Idk i'm full of joy and giggles

[dark patio]

It's great!

[civic shadow]

We stan

[hidden inlet]

As an ace I agree uwu

[pale linden]

https://picrew.me/image_maker/98926

[pearl sleet]

Hey
This is a PSA for anyone who is struggling with other people accepting your pronouns:
Fuck the people who are rude about them
Fuck the people who mock and laugh at you
They aren't even worth a damn passing thought
You are BEAUTIFUL, you are IMPERFECTLY PERFECT, and, perhaps most importantly
YOU ARE YOU
And if that isnt enough for others
Well, screw them.

[wicked jungle]

same artist but i think you meant this one https://picrew.me/image_maker/415156

[civic shadow]

UwU

[civic shadow]

Love when my mom tells me to shave constantly cause "girls don't have arm or leg hair"

Like SORRY I HAVE DARK HAIR AND ALSO PCOS

[tight inlet]

Girls absolutely have body hair lmao what is she thinking, everyone has it. Bodies like to have fluff helps with temp regulation and stuff

[civic shadow]

Well she means more like "girls aren't supposed to keep it"

I have PCOS which cause excess body hair and it's really frustrating having to shave all the time so like just let me live ;-;

[oak scarab]

i felt that 😭 my fam can be the same way sometimes even tho it's all just natural hair ur body is supposed to have

[civic shadow]

And like FINE MOM WHAT IF I DONT WANNA BE A GIRL ANYMORE HUH?

[oak scarab]

felt that one too 😭 😭 😭

im nonbinary but not out to my parents and still present/express myself more femininely

[iron escarp]

the true ace agenda, adopt duckie babies

[quartz panther]

as a girl with large amounts of body hair, i feel awful all the time because of it ;_;

[waxen hare]

if it wasnt meant to be there it wouldnt grow in the first place

never feel like u have to be ashamed of somethin natural

[supple brook]

The idea that women aren't supposed to have body hair literally only comes from Gillette, they wanted to sell more razors in I think ww2 so they started marketing to women

[hidden inlet]

Like an old queen used to say, Capitalism is the source of all evil

[blissful granite]

idk if capitalism is the source of all evil.

human beings are source of all evil.
look at the human rights violations in China & Russia.
That's abuse of power in Communism and Oligarchy

[hidden inlet]

I mean humans are the ones who made capitalism?

[blissful granite]

They made communism and totalitarianism and fascism, too.

[hidden inlet]

Man, screw humans

[blissful granite]

The systems are just systems but when people are greedy, they exploit the system to their advantage.

This is true. Humans are pretty garbo. 🤣

[hidden inlet]

The system itself is made with flaws so it could be exploited

[mellow sand]

We should just go extinct and let crows run the planet.

[dark patio]

let's just be a little careful with blaming all of humanity for the evils of capitalism and such

Especially with the extinction talk. That kind of thing tends to erase a lot of native peoples who took care of each other and their environment and who are still trying to within a system that wants to crush them.

[hidden inlet]

And frogs, ferrets, dogs, and owls

I love owls

They're so.... chaotic

Like birds in general are so chaotic

[mellow sand]

Yep. Love me those birds.

[pure oxide]

like... very few humans are actually garbo, or want to be garbo. It's just unfortunate that so many in power are, and that we still live in a society that puts profits over people and protecting the environment.

[dark patio]

Just... there are people who have come to power and made it terrible for everyone else. But there are also people who have been badly injured and their entire community comes together to care for them. All the way back to when humans were first becoming humans.

[blissful granite]

Well, yes, systemic oppression exists within all indigenous peoples across continents. Even Canada's primarily socialist-democratic system has a lot of abuse towards their indigenous people. I think the point is that one oppressive force uses a system of governance to oppress another set of people. Which is true with the oppression and kidnapping of the Dalai Lama in China, the damaging attacks to the Inuit and Metis of Canada, even the horrific kidnapping within the African Slave Trade. A system of power will abuse another, and hurt another, which leads to an oppression by use of a political regime -- regardless of its intent.

I'd even say that the existing oppressive forces within our lands also caused groups like the #🌈lgbtq here to form, due to the continuing oppressive forces of one regime to another. Greece had accepted us, Romans did not.

It's an unfortunate cycle.

[dark patio]

My point here is that the extinction talk blames those people just as much as it blames the people who are doing the oppressing.

[pure oxide]

I think the issue is just.. the blanket "humans are garbage" statements is all

[blissful granite]

Oh I agree RE: the extinction talk, yeah.

[dark patio]

My statement was just, hey, statements like those kinda only focus on certain groups of people but paint everyone else who is suffering with that brush. I wasn't looking for a whole big discussion cause I know I don't have the energy for that rn, it was just a "hey be mindful ❤️ "

[blissful granite]

🙂

[mellow sand]

👍

I will be.

[tight inlet]

Yeah and this isn't a debate channel in the first place per pinned rules so it's a little heavy and miserable to come into.... All of That

[wicked jungle]

wanna lighten it up?

idk how but it's truly a gloomy time for the rainbow peeps

kinda sad, kinda misunderstood, kinda taken too far

[blissful granite]

Have you changed your name more than once, legally?

Some states have a limit as to how many times you can do it. I know this because I've changed it once.

I guess you can do it a billion times if you get married but you need to have a solid defense for changing the name in order for the courts to approve you. And if the judge questions that reasoning, you'll have to appear in court to justify it. Fortunately I didn't have to go to court for mine.

[vast jacinth]

you're not always allowed to name yourself whatever you please when it's for marriage. Some places have different limitations / strictures, but for me they would only allow 'family names', though I think they would have checked very little. Had I said "yes: my grandfather was named X", having seen fit to rehearse that, with mere foreknowledge of needing to do so, I don't think anyone would have investigated the legitimacy any deeper

[pearl sleet]

Not legally, no.

Just what I go by. And, again, Ive only done it twice. Once to Jack, and once to Alex, which fits me much bettet

[quartz panther]

your therapist is completely being an ass like my boyfriend changed his name multiple times during our relationship and it wasn't a bother at all

[pearl sleet]

Bless Mama Odie and Mulan for helping me find out who I am
Blue skies and sunshine guaranteed!

(The things I'm referencing are the songs Dig a Little Deeper from Princess and the Frog, and Reflection from Mulan, both of which helped me figure out who i am on the inside, which is a silly nonbinary pal)

[calm shell]

i LOVE the song dig a little deeper! i always tear up a bit at that moment in the film just because it resonates so much with me

[wicked jungle]

oh this sentiment might explain alot of things, oh no

this might explain my "hey look ma i made it" sobfests

[sharp iron]

I would like to add Go the Distance from Hercules, because while it took a while just like with Reflection the whole lyrics about "I would go most anywhere to find where I belong" always resonated with me and I never quite understood why. (Just like it took me entirely too long to figure out why Reflection and when will it show who I am inside was Special.)

[calm shell]

YES

[spiral steeple]

I legally changed my name a few years ago. Kept the one birth name I liked, and gave myself a middle name that I had been going by online for years. Told my hubby, brothers, and friends. Eventually told all but 2 people in my family.
When I finally told my mom, she lost her shit (which I knew she would). There's a very specific naming tradition in our family, so by changing my name, I not only insulted her, but my ancestors. BUT, I hated that first name with a passion, so I didn't care.
I will say though that the legal process of changing my name was a giant pain in the ass!

[spiral steeple]

Yeah, I remember having to give a reason. My smart ass self wanted to say, "Because it's my life and I'll do what I want." I forgot what I actually wrote though...

[twilit lake]

It's also something to keep the ancestral spirits occupied, now they gotta incorporate this into some arcane naming scheme. Will keep em occupied for a few millenia

[feral eagle]

hi guys 🥺

[bleak lodge]

hoihoi

am trans guy.

[wicked jungle]

hello and welcome

[final shale]

Hey everyone! Im excited about this community

[queen relic]

closeted bi and possible poly, what up?

[turbid storm]

Hey everyone

[final shale]

I am a demiromantic ace nb 😌💜

[wicked jungle]

hope yall are doing good today 💙
(and that the sky is up for all of yall )

[final shale]

Its uncharacteristically sunny in Scotland today ☀️

[gloomy tendon]

heyy

[final shale]

just in time for a good pride month tomorrow

[wicked jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sun-taste-gif-8691244

while you still are blessed 🌞

[gloomy tendon]

tomorrow maybe i'll get out my pride stickers to celebrate

[final shale]

This is gonna be my first pride month since identifying as nonbinary 😳 i dont even have any nb flag coloured things

[gloomy tendon]

same for me! but i have some nb stickers i got for my birthday 😄

[wicked jungle]

i only got a little octopus fella

[gloomy tendon]

and i painted some little flags too

[wicked jungle]

arrived perfectly for pride, all thanks to @shy meteor

[gloomy tendon]

My little collection 🥰

[final shale]

What octopus fella 😮

[gloomy tendon]

my painted ace flag is upside down oops :')))

[wicked jungle]

dont have a camera close by but here's the store-pic https://i.etsystatic.com/29994544/r/il/e45460/3105750374/il_794xN.3105750374_o2g9.jpg i love them so much ;_;

[gloomy tendon]

that's so cute 😮

[final shale]

Oh my gosh that’s so adorable!

[wicked jungle]

mine has the colors a bit flipped but that was my "mistake" and i love my nb bub very much anyways ;w;

[shy meteor]

Of course I am so happy you like them!

[wicked jungle]

ofc i do, they are so lovely ;O;

[shy meteor]

but yeh if anyone is interested those octopi are available on my etsy pwp

[wicked jungle]

they will look great on my ace-panromantic flag

[shy meteor]

I think the flipped colours look better not gonna lie 👀 because the yellow and purple not being next to each other makes them stand out more :3

[wicked jungle]

time to get a nb flag aswell @-@

[shy meteor]

||shrine time shrine time shrine time shrine||

[gloomy tendon]

when i move out in september i'm already planning to do some diy flags with my roommate 😄

[wicked jungle]

idk the yellow fading into the white looks like bright happy sunshine 😂

[final shale]

My friend has this shop with lots of cute pride things: https://etsy.me/2JiAwyB

[wicked jungle]

big shrine time

[shy meteor]

ehehe you are not wrong

[wicked jungle]

i need an lgbt corner that i can easily transform into striaght 🤔

[shy meteor]

oh are we allowed to post etsy links here?

[wicked jungle]

it's hard to live with homophobic lads ._.

[wicked jungle]

we have been pride-shopping here for a long time hahaha

[shy meteor]

Most homophobic people are only aware of the rainbow flag, so all other flags might pass as decoration? pwp

[wicked jungle]

they hate my rainbow jackets already :))))))

[shy meteor]

amazing I didn't know that!!

[final shale]

Im sorry you gotta deal with that, i mean its not always going to be like that

[shy meteor]

Would you be interested in a pair of rainbow sneakers to go with it? 👀 I can send you a link hehe

[wicked jungle]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1011536320/pride-octopus-charms?ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1 get yourselves some pride octopi armies fingerguns

[mortal halo]

hey y’all!! super excited that coral island is so inclusive!! not only with pairings for the farmer but also the different customizations for the character. i’m bisexual and recently graduated from college. super excited to talk more to everyone!

[wicked jungle]

i have some already but YES??!?!?!

[shy meteor]

Afdsjfhjsf thank you pwp

[final shale]

I have an ace flag up in my room and anytime i call with my mum who isnt the most inclusive i have to make sure i dont move the camera in a way she would see it T-T

[wicked jungle]

i am still working on the bi-jello bub but i need to hold back on the money cause holo taco is getting a new collection and i need???????????????

[shy meteor]

Holo Taco is so pretty I wish I was good at doing my nails and less impatient hahaha

[wicked jungle]

same omg, it feels like that scene in the movie Matilda where they hide the colorful things on the wall and boards for grey stuff 😭

[final shale]

I really want holo taco but the shipping to the UK is too much for me

[wicked jungle]

same, my nails had the worst time this last year and kept breaking off, had 5 funerals the last 2 months already 😭

[gloomy tendon]

there is where my friend got me my pride stickers if anyone is interested https://www.etsy.com/ca-fr/shop/NeebingAndMary?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=949759494

[shy meteor]

https://eur.shein.com/Rainbow-Embroidered-Chunky-Sneakers-p-996411-cat-1913.html?scici=Search~~EditSearch~~1~~Rainbow~~~~0 I will just post these here uwu

[stray fox]

It’s free shipping if you can spend $99 😅

[wicked jungle]

they have changed their shipping prices recently maybe it's better now?

[shy meteor]

I got those shoes and I love them like I have never loved footwear before

[wicked jungle]

yeah just get friends who also like holo taco and share one cart 😎

[final shale]

Haha i wish i had that kinda money to spend on nail polish 😭

[stray fox]

I split my orders with my friends. It definitely works

[shy meteor]

oh no I just never put in the effort to keep them nice pwp

[final shale]

Damn now i wish i had more than just two friends 😔

[wicked jungle]

omg i wish they were in black, white sneakers get dirty so easily in my village D:

[shy meteor]

https://eur.shein.com/Rainbow-Embroidery-Lace-Up-Chunky-Sneakers-p-2429162-cat-1913.html?scici=Search~~EditSearch~~1~~Rainbow~~~~0

They also come in black uwu

[wicked jungle]

JUST NOW AFTER I SAIT THAT
can you read minds now too

[shy meteor]

Oh no I'm found out

[wicked jungle]

get your two friends into the glorious "church" of holosexuality *fingerguns

[shy meteor]

but about the white ones - I wore them in very muddy woods for a very long day full of manual labour and they looked horrid after. Gave them a good wash and they were fine uwu

[wicked jungle]

the black ones look glossy af oooooo

the only gay stickers i have are gay-cados o-o

none other lived to see the day (of pride) ._.

[shy meteor]

https://eur.shein.com/T-Shirt-mit-Regenbogen-Herzen-Muster-und-Bindung-p-2271999-cat-1890.html

Gotta share this as well. Inconspicuous pan shirt 👀

[wicked jungle]

only the openings would have been such a neat idea wow

[final shale]

I wiiiish. But they dont wear nail polish at all so it’d be hard. Besides i doubt we have $100 between the three of us

[wicked jungle]

time to learn about sewing tshirts.....

[shy meteor]

I know how to sew and I still don't make my own clothes because I suck at designing them

I wanna make all the dresses but-

[wicked jungle]

oh shh i trust you'll be great, just maybe needs more design work put into it 🤔

[shy meteor]

I just never know what to make really haha

I love wearing dresses but my style is very contradicting.
I dress to impress but I hate being stared at.

[wicked jungle]

maybe categorize what kind of things you definitively want to try?
like the strawberry cream snail or galaxy octobub

[shy meteor]

I wear that pentagram dress from my profile pic to the grocery store, old men stare at my cleavage and I want to cry. But I did that to myself and I don't understand-

[shy meteor]

hmm that's a good idea...

[wicked jungle]

old men are disgusting and you are so not atfault for that
fuck them.
they are the problem, your pentagram shirt is BOMB and you look good in it.

[shy meteor]

I love skater dresses the most, also light summer dresses because so comfy

[shy meteor]

asdhjasf thank you pwp
It's a confusing mentality honestly... like, of course nobody should be staring like that no matter what anyone wears. But at the same time I feel like I'm provoking it.

[wicked jungle]

i really love comfortable clothes but live for dark asian streetwear fashion - so many things just dangling away everythere, i live for it

but they also get me stared at alot i just dont care anymore.
i know they dont stare because i look "good" in it so it's better to ignore overall hah...

[shy meteor]

Asian streetwear is so cool I wish I could pull that off pwp But I am short and chubby so baggy stuff makes me look like the michelin man cri cri

[wicked jungle]

tall fatto catto lmao, asian streetwear is way too tiny for me but there are very few things i can actually wear :D

[shy meteor]

I saw fishnets in rainbow colour the other day but I can't remember the shop sdhsadljf I really need those

[wicked jungle]

i remember once when we were cooking with the chinese-club and one girl had this incredibly cute rainbow pullover with rainbow embroidery and at the hand-openings it was so cute but incredibly short and tiny (biggest size was L)

people who can wear fishnets are amazing honestly

have you seen mermaid fishnets on etsy btw? they are absolutely amazing

[shy meteor]

that sounds soooo cute but I know the struggle... asian sizes so smol p.p

[wicked jungle]

but PRICEYYYYYYY

[shy meteor]

YES I actually somewhat know the creator haha I sadly never manage to snag any

[wicked jungle]

Sonnen Pilz or Logan? :o

[shy meteor]

oop sorry was looking for a picture

I am taking about Tinkercast :o Daniel Struzyna

[wicked jungle]

a fully new name :OOOO

[shy meteor]

I didn't know other people made then owo Tinkercast is always sold out pwp

look him up on insta he's amazing and the guy who originally made the octopus tentacle tights

FOUND IT

fish nets hehe

idk if I pull them off well but I love how they look uwu

[wicked jungle]

love that so much

oh you definitvely do lol

[shy meteor]

w< thank you

[gloomy tendon]

i think i'm going to do cupcakes

[shy meteor]

cupcakes are always a good choice

[gloomy tendon]

and i'll make them colourful

[wicked jungle]

omg yes 👀

[proper knot]

What kind of cupcake?

[wicked jungle]

want to one day try hidden halloween pride cupcakes but need to work on the piping-game

[gloomy tendon]

vanilla! i wanted to do maple but i'm missing some ingredients

[proper knot]

Fair,
Good luck :)

Hope the come out yum, as cupcakes do

[wicked jungle]

colorful vanilla ;w;

[gloomy tendon]

thank you!! 🥰

[wicked jungle]

may your oven be in your favor ;w;

[shy meteor]

I used to love following the recipes of a guy on YT who was really fun and creative, but then he had a very petty argument with another YouTuber I liked and it just kinda showed what kind of person he is so I stopped watching :x

[gloomy tendon]

thanks loll, idk if i wanna do 12 or more, and i also don't know if i can do icing

[shy meteor]

I believe in you! You can do it!

[gloomy tendon]

i can making icing!!

i even have rainbow sparkles 😄

[wicked jungle]

ranibow sprimkle ;w;

[dry swift]

I mean... you can certainly take a page out of Matilda's book. I don't know, maybe you can have a football flag or something and just drop that down over the other flag.

[wicked jungle]

ew sports, i'm not a fan 😂